In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: guarding against comparison, leading people you don't connect with personally, making room for the Holy Spirit without scaring new people in church, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@lea...
Aug 25, 2025•14 min•Season 6Ep. 153
Every leader loves a loyal team member—but what happens when loyalty isn’t matched by performance? On the flip side, what do you do with someone who produces results but struggles with alignment or attitude? In this episode, we’re diving into the tension between staff loyalty and staff performance—how to evaluate both, what matters most in different seasons, and how to build a team that’s both committed and effective. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsi...
Aug 18, 2025•20 min•Season 6Ep. 152
There comes a point in leadership when you realize—you’re not the youngest anymore. In fact, sometimes you’re the oldest voice at the table. In this episode, we’re talking about what it looks like to keep showing up, keep leading strong, and keep growing, even when the room around you is getting younger. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us y...
Aug 11, 2025•19 min•Season 6Ep. 151
Sometimes we're placed in a leadership position and asked to lead people who may be much older and much more experienced than us. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss practical tips for leading older generations effectively. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John ( @johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne ( @waynefrancis ), Podcast ( @leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Aug 04, 2025•22 min•Season 5Ep. 150
Ever wonder what to do when you feel stuck? Thanks for joining us for our Best of Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about how to revive and increase your leadership capacity in a healthy way through getting practical about how to get unstuck and get some momentum back in your life and leadership.
Jul 28, 2025•21 min
Thanks for joining us for our Best of Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about the power of reset and how to lead when you (and your team) is stressed out. We talk about Managing stress, handling pressure, pursuing purpose from a place of peace.
Jul 21, 2025•26 min
Welcome back to our Best Of Summer Series that aims to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about rest and asking the question, How tired is too tired? We also help identify unhealthy coping mechanisms for stress, tips for increasing the capacity of the people you lead, leading high capacity people effectively, and more.
Jul 14, 2025•26 min
Welcome to Leadership in Black & White. Thanks for joining us for our Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! We know that the Summer is often a time of rest, reflecting and time away with family. For leaders, this can also be a season that they need a refresh. We’re taking the month of July off, but wanted to share a “BEST OF” series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! The next few weeks we’ll be highlighting (4) of our past episodes that will walk you through practical wa...
Jul 07, 2025•25 min
As your kids get older, your parenting must shift. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne, along with their wives Leslie and Classy, talk about how to parent teenagers and adult children. They focus on topics like keeping communication open, how discipline changes, navigating their children making their own decisions, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John ( @johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne ( @waynefrancis ), Podcast ( @leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a...
Jun 30, 2025•28 min•Season 5Ep. 149
One of the greatest tests of our leadership is leading our children. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne are joined by their wives - Leslie and Classy. They talk about parenting young children and the challenges all parents must navigate. They talk about things like handling exhaustion, introducing your kids to the things of God, staying connected as a couple in this season, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ wa...
Jun 23, 2025•23 min•Season 5Ep. 148
Pastors John and Wayne discuss building healthy marriages with their wives - Leslie and Classy. They talk about things like romance and fun, their spiritual life together, conflict resolution, staying emotionally connected in busy seasons, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Jun 16, 2025•25 min•Season 5Ep. 147
The marriage relationship is the most important earthly relationship every Christian leader has. In this episode, John and Wayne are joined by their wives - Leslie and Classy - to discuss how to navigate ministry while keeping their marriage strong and vibrant. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continu...
Jun 09, 2025•25 min•Season 5Ep. 146
In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: how to get your confidence back, parenting teenagers who are losing interest in God, leading with big vision but small resources, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblack...
Jun 02, 2025•16 min•Season 5Ep. 145
It's never been easier - or more tempting - to copy what's working somewhere else. But imitation can quietly rob a church of its God-given uniqueness. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss the pressure to follow trends, the danger of comparison, and how to discover and protect the identity God has called your church to live out. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Lea...
May 19, 2025•19 min•Season 5Ep. 144
Most leaders are great at focusing on what builds team culture. But what about the things that are quietly tearing it down. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss the subtle, unspoken habits that do silent damage to the health of your team and organization. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue...
May 12, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 143
Every leader in ministry feels the tension between the sacred and the strategic - between trusting God and making a plan. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss when to pray and when to pivot. How to balance spirit-led leadership and wise stewardship. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to gr...
May 05, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 142
Leaders are often tempted to gauge success based on feelings. But are we measuring what actually matters? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne unpack how to define success the right way and how to lead with clarity around what truly moves the mission forward. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show contin...
Apr 28, 2025•20 min•Season 5Ep. 141
Every leader needs great strategy. But what if the key to your success had more to do with your emotional intelligence than it did your elaborate playbook? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss the important of connecting with people and dealing with your emotions in leadership and why it just might be the most important thing to get right. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinbl...
Apr 14, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 140
In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: what leadership traits to look for in hiring, keeping your preaching fresh, teaching on controversial topics, online church 5 years post-covid, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ lea...
Apr 07, 2025•22 min•Season 5Ep. 139
We are joined by special guest, Pastor Chad Veach. Pastor Chad is the Lead Pastor of Zoe Church in Los Angeles, California. He's also a prolific writer and communicator who has preached around the world. In this episode, they discuss the impact of the California fires, trends in the church, and have fun with a surprise on-the-spot leadership list.
Mar 31, 2025•29 min•Season 5Ep. 138
We are joined by special guest, Pastor Dino Rizzo. Pastor Dino is the Executive Director of the Association of Related Churches - a church planting organization that has planted over 1000 churches around the world in the last 20 years. In this episode, they discuss what's happening in churches across America today, what kinds of churches are growing and reaching more people, the state of church planting, and much more.
Mar 24, 2025•29 min•Season 5Ep. 137
We are joined by special guest, Dr. Manny Arango. Dr. Manny is the founder of Arma - an online platform to help you learn the Bible for yourself. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss the church Dr. Manny is planting next year, a new bible reading plan that is catching fire, and a new book coming soon called "Crushing Chaos." You can find more of Dr. Manny's content at armacourses.com or on his Instagram account: @ mannyarango ....
Mar 17, 2025•29 min•Season 5Ep. 136
be evangelism? Or should evangelism be the natural byproduct of friendships with the lost? Pastors John and Wayne discuss this tension and more talk about how to be a good friend to those outside the family of God. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Mar 10, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 135
Each of us have have the potential to create movement - in our lives, in our families, in our organizations. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss the ingredients that are necessary to start a movement as well as some of the things that hinder leaders the most in creating and sustaining a movement. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to...
Mar 03, 2025•28 min•Season 5Ep. 134
An effective leader almost always has an effective team. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss how to attract the best and the brightest to your team and organization. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Feb 24, 2025•20 min•Season 5Ep. 133
In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: how to manage being a bi-vocational pastor, balancing humility and taking charge, mentoring someone who isn't teachable, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ...
Feb 17, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 132
In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne give their personal recommendations of resources they are finding value in. They discuss books they're reading, podcasts they're listening to, tools and technologies they're utilizing, and so much more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Feb 10, 2025•30 min•Season 5Ep. 131
Great leaders are self-aware leaders. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss how to grow in self-awareness and ways you can determine your own personal level of self-awareness. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!...
Feb 03, 2025•21 min•Season 5Ep. 130
As Christian leaders, it can be easy to get busy and forget an important element God calls us to implement in our lives: a fear and reverence of Him. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne challenge Christian leaders to examine their own hearts and ask the question: is the fear of the Lord missing in my life? Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review ...
Jan 27, 2025•24 min•Season 5Ep. 129
Great friends challenge us, hold us accountable, inspire us, fill us up, and ultimately play a role in dictating our future. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about the power of friendship and how to find and form the right friendships this year. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@ johnsiebeling ), Pastor Wayne (@ waynefrancis ), Podcast (@ leadershipinblackandwhite ). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to...
Jan 20, 2025•26 min•Season 5Ep. 128
