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LDS Discussions - Mormon Truth Claims Examined

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Examining LDS Church truth claims in a thoughtful way, seeking objectivity.
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63: CES Letter vs. The Book of Mormon

In this episode, we dive deep into the attacks on the CES Letter and its author, Jeremy Runnells, unpacking why apologetic responses—no matter how weak—are often accepted by believing members. This is the first in a multi-part series analyzing the LDS Discussions CES Letter project. We tackle critical questions about the Book of Mormon, including: Why does it contain errors from the 1769 King James Bible? What about the italicized words from the KJV showing up in the text? Why doesn’t the Book o...

Jun 26, 20252 hr 6 min

62: Did Joseph Smith Have Sex With His Plural Wives?

Many have asked the question: Did Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith have sex with his polygamous wives? During his lifetime, Joseph Smith engaged in polygamy (which was illegal in the state of Illinois) and his wives consisted of women who were underage, women who were single, women who were widowed, and women who were already legally married. What is the evidence for his sexual relations with them? Additionally a number of the brethren were also commanded to live polygamy, what is the evidence for se...

Feb 13, 20253 hr 19 min

61: Faithful Historian Deceives Mormons -Keith Erekson

Keith Erekson serves as the director of the historical research and outreach for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On January 12, 2025 he gave a fireside in which he answered tough questions. Today we are responding to that fireside and discussing such topics as polygamy, Joseph Smith marrying women who were already married, and the church hiding aspects of its history. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by bec...

Feb 06, 20253 hr 37 min

60: BYU Professor Brings CES Letter To Life through Art - Anthony Sweat

In this episode of LDS Discussions, we explore how BYU Professor Anthony Sweat’s artwork reflects the troubling aspects of church history found in the CES Letter by Jeremy Runnells. Despite being excommunicated for questioning the church, Runnells’ CES Letter, published in 2013, exposes discrepancies in the official narrative. Meanwhile, Sweat’s art, starting in 2014, delves into controversial topics like Joseph Smith's treasure digging, the use of a seer stone, and polygamy. We compare Sweat's ...

Jan 21, 20252 hr 36 min

59: Church Backtracks on Deceptive Change to Book of Mormon Introduction?

The LDS Church is quietly but significantly updating the introduction to the Book of Mormon, shifting its focus from historical claims to a broader, more spiritual narrative. In this episode , we dive deep into these changes, exploring what they reveal about the Church's evolving stance on the historicity of its sacred text. Is this an effort to address long-standing critiques about the lack of archaeological and genetic evidence? Or does it reflect a broader shift to make the Book of Mormon mor...

Dec 09, 20242 hr 43 min

58: Skin of Blackness and Mormon Apologetics

In this gripping third installment of our series, we dive deep into the Book of Mormon to unravel the true meaning of the cursed “Skin of Blackness." Are recent apologetic theories—claiming it's just paint, dark coats, or tattoos—offering genuine insights, or are they merely attempts to gloss over the text's troubling implications? Join us as we confront these arguments head-on and question whether we should trust the prophets or the apologists. Don’t miss this eye-opening discussion! Show Notes...

Oct 11, 20241 hr 46 min

57: Skin of Blackness: The Book of Mormon Curse

In this episode, we dive into part two of our exploration of the "skin of blackness" mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Historically, leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints identified Native Americans as the Lamanites. But as we approach the early 2000s, new theories have emerged. Could the "skin of blackness" refer to paint, tattoos, or dark animal skins? Join us as we unpack these intriguing ideas and their implications for understanding the text. Don’t miss this thought-prov...

Sep 20, 20242 hr 9 min

56: How Modern Mormons Still Defend Racist Scripture

Can ancient scripture be reinterpreted to erase racism? Mormon apologists are attempting just that with controversial “skin of blackness” passages in the Book of Mormon. But can these efforts stand up to historical scrutiny, or do they merely obscure uncomfortable truths? Critics argue it whitewashes history and denies lived experiences. Join us as we critically examine how modern LDS apologists attempt to explain away racist teachings in early Mormon history and scripture by comparing their mod...

Aug 02, 20241 hr 41 min

55: Witnesses Roundup & Finale

We're back to wrap up our series on the Book of Mormon witnesses with what happened to them later in life. Nemo the Mormon - YouTube Nemo the Mormon - TikTok Nemo the Mormon - Instagram Analyzing Mormonism - YouTube Analyzing Mormonism - Website Analyzing Mormonism - Instagram Analyzing Mormonism - TikTok Show Notes YouTube _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring do...

Jun 07, 20242 hr 1 min

54: Additional "Witnesses" of the Book of Mormon Gold Plates

In this riveting interview, @nemothemormon and @analyzingmormonism are back to delve into the lesser-known accounts surrounding the plates of the Book of Mormon. Witness testimonies, some published decades after the events, paint a conflicting picture of the plates' appearance, size, and the circumstances under which they were allegedly shown. From the curious case of Josiah Stoll, who claimed to be the first to handle the plates, to Mary Whitmer's visionary encounter with an enigmatic figure, "...

May 31, 20241 hr 44 min

53: How Credible Were the Book of Mormon's EIGHT Witnesses?

Were the 8 witnesses to Joseph Smith's golden plates actually credible? Or just gullible relatives caught up in his delusion? Shockingly candid statements from witnesses like Hiram Page and John Whitmer seem to contradict and undermine official LDS teachings about their testimonies. What are the implications of the past witnesses on today’s modern church? Episode Show Notes YouTube Link _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver qua...

May 09, 20242 hr 8 min

52: Are the 3 Witnesses to the Book of Mormon Credible?

Julia, Nemo, and Mike are back to discuss the varying accounts of the three men who supposedly saw Joseph's "gold plates" that eventually became the Book of Mormon. What did they say about what they REALLY saw? Episode Show Notes Youtube link _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo LDS Discussions Platform...

Apr 12, 20243 hr 26 min

51: John C. Bennett Pt 2 - Allegations of Homosexuality

The team discusses controversial allegations of sexual impropriety against Joseph Smith and John C. Bennett in Nauvoo, the existence of the Danites as a violent vigilante group, Bennett's subsequent exposes of Mormonism after his excommunication, the succession crisis and various Mormon offshoots after Joseph Smith's death, and questions around the authenticity of Mormon truth claims such as the golden plates. There is debate around the accuracy of some historical sources, as well as acknowledgm...

Feb 10, 20241 hr 58 min

50: Polygamy & Abortion in Joseph Smith’s Nauvoo - John C. Bennett Pt 2

In this episode, we expose the layers of Bennett's role in divulging Joseph's polygamous secrets. From secret women's organizations with captivating names like Cyprian Saints to the complex web of polygamous relationships, we journey through a fascinating exploration of historical allegations and denials. Brace yourself for a captivating ride through the world of John C. Bennett, where accusations, clandestine affairs, and the shadowy specter of abortionist connections add layers of complexity t...

Jan 19, 20241 hr 59 min

49 - The Rise and Fall of John C. Bennett Pt 1

Dive into the captivating saga of John C. Bennett, an enigmatic figure woven into the intricate tapestry of early Mormonism. John, Mike, Nemo, and Julia from Analyzing Mormonism unearth together the layers of his rise, from esteemed physician to Mayor of Nauvoo and right-hand man to Joseph, and the scandalous allegations that led to his name becoming a hiss and a byword among Mormons even to this day. Tune in for an enthralling journey that peels back the layers of secrecy and intrigue surroundi...

Jan 05, 20241 hr 57 min

48: If Joseph Got it right, who got it wrong?

Does accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet require rejecting vast fields of science and scholarship? Join us as we consider long-held assumptions about Joseph Smith and the truth claims of Mormonism. We highlight problematic beliefs like dark skin being a curse from God, Native Americans as a cursed and loathsome people, evolution and DNA studies being incompatible with LDS teachings, and linguistic, archaeological, and historical evidence contradicting the Book of Mormon's divine origins. LDS Dis...

Nov 10, 20232 hr 40 min

47: Russell M. Nelson's Miracle Stories

In this captivating episode with John Dehlin, Nemo @NEMOTHEMORMON , and Mike on LDS Discussions, we delve into the controversial miracle stories of Mormon Prophet Russell M. Nelson. What are the implications for a spokesperson of God to fabricate and exaggerate, including (or especially) in regards to revelation like the November 2015 LGBT exclusionary policy. Join us in unraveling the motivations behind these distortions and why they hold significant consequences. How do these accounts shape ou...

Nov 03, 20232 hr 9 min

46: Mormon Apologetics: The Problems

Mormon apologetics have been around ever since Mormonism has existed. Join with Mike, Nemo and John as they discuss the types of apologetics that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints engage in and why they are all flawed. LDS Discussions Essay on Apologetics: Overview of Apologetic Responses Within Mormonism Episode Show Notes Youtube Link _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a...

Oct 06, 20232 hr 41 min

45: Mormon Prophet, Russell M. Nelson on Doubts

In this interview, we delve into how Russell M. Nelson, the leader of the LDS Church, addresses doubt. Nelson's 2021 talk on doubts and "lazy learners" encourages members to "choose to believe" and not dwell on doubts. He suggests applying this approach to real-world situations, reframing faith to transcend evidence, and using the bandwagon effect to suppress doubts. The conversation also explores how Nelson portrays both fulfillment and failure as aspects of faith. The church historian in 2023 ...

Sep 15, 20231 hr 52 min

44: How the Church Handles Doubt

In this eye-opening episode of LDS Discussions, Mike, John Dehlin, and Nemo the Mormon explore the Mormon church's approach to handling doubt. They take a brief historical journey into the realm of Mormon doubt and apologetics. We critically examine the church's framing of doubters as “unruly children” and labeling doubts that lead away from the church as “evil.” They discuss the reliance on the church as the sole source of authority on truth and the discouragement of critical thinking. With ins...

Aug 18, 20232 hr 10 min

43: Spiritual Witnesses

Join hosts Mike, Nemo, and John Dehlin as they delve into the intricacies of spiritual witnesses within Mormonism. How do sincere seekers often end up with different answers when appealing to "the Spirit"? Can individuals be exploited by circumstances deliberately designed to create feelings of spiritual confirmation? What are the consequences when "spiritual witnesses" go wrong? Join us as we dive into the psychological phenomena of spiritual witnesses. We examine topics such as indoctrination,...

Jul 20, 20233 hr 35 min

42: The Transfiguration of Brigham Young

Did Brigham Young transform into Joseph Smith's appearance? We discuss the rise of Brigham Young from the “Transfiguration” that altered Mormonism's course. Mike, Nemo, and John explore this event by analyzing historical records, contemporary journals, and a carefully constructed narrative. We unveil the astonishing accounts of backdated miracles and the use of carefully worded descriptions in "Saints." Discover why the Transfiguration holds immense significance for Mormonism and how it guides t...

Jul 06, 20231 hr 43 min

41: Where did Joseph get his ideas?

Join John, Nemo, and Mike in a captivating episode as they unravel the intricate tapestry of influences that shaped the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. From the unique doctrines of Mormonism to the enigmatic Book of Mormon, they embark on a thought-provoking journey through history and religious texts. Discover the surprising connections between revival sermons and the sermons in the Book of Mormon, and explore the profound influence of figures like Alexander Campbell on Joseph Smith's relig...

Jun 02, 20231 hr 32 min

40: Mormon Patriarchal Blessings | Revelations Pt. 6

Discover the truth behind Mormon Patriarchal Blessings in this eye-opening interview with hosts Mike, Nemo, and John. From reflections on their own blessings to the harmful effects of this mechanism of control over members, the hosts delve into the nuanced nature of these individualized messages from God. With insights on how even past prophets have framed patriarchal blessings, and the agelessness of their messages, you won't want to miss this deep dive into revelation in the Church of Jesus Ch...

May 12, 20231 hr 30 min

39: The Problems with Mormon Personal Revelation | Revelations Pt. 5

Mike, Nemo, and John discuss the problems with personal revelation. LDS Discussions essay on personal revelation Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @l...

Apr 28, 20231 hr 33 min

38: Problematic Revelations After Joseph Smith | Revelations Pt. 4

In this engaging interview, Mike from LDS Discussions, Nemo the Mormon, and John Dehlin review the failed prophecies of Mormonism's founder, Joseph. They start by discussing what the Bible says about failed prophecies and those who tell them. They then delve into specific failed prophecies, including the Second Coming of the Lord in 1891, the fall and overthrow of the US government, and the "everlasting" covenant of the United Order. Other failed prophecies discussed include the failed treasure ...

Mar 24, 20232 hr 42 min

37: Joseph's Failed Prophecies | Revelations Pt. 3

In this engaging interview, Mike from LDS Discussions, Nemo the Mormon, and John Dehlin review the failed prophecies of Mormonism's founder, Joseph. They start by discussing what the Bible says about failed prophecies and those who tell them. They then delve into specific failed prophecies, including the Second Coming of the Lord in 1891, the fall and overthrow of the US government, and the "everlasting" covenant of the United Order. Other failed prophecies discussed include the failed treasure ...

Mar 10, 20232 hr 14 min

36: Problematic Patterns | Revelations Pt. 2

Today we identify and analyze four problematic patterns in Joseph Smith's "revelations": 1) Using revelations to convince others to submit to his requests, 2) Using revelations to get out of a jam, 3) Changing revelations to fit Joseph Smith’s evolving theologies, and 4) a look at Biblical errors made in Joseph Smith's revelation. We are joined by Mike of LDS Discussions and @NEMOTHEMORMON . LDS Discussion Essay on Joseph Smith's Revelations. Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Disc...

Feb 24, 20232 hr 20 min

35: Joseph Smith's Backdated Prophecies | Revelations Pt. 1

Radio Free Mormon joins the usual crew (Mike, John & Nemo) as they discuss evidence for prophecies that appear to have been backdated after the events of the supposed prophecy already happened. LDS Discussion Essay on Backdating Prophecy Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Pla...

Feb 17, 20233 hr 24 min

34: Overview of Joseph Smith's Translations

In this episode we recap all the different areas where Joseph Smith claims to have translated an ancient source and we analyze his work and compare it against modern scholars and experts in the field to see how he did. Co-host: Nemo the Mormon LDS Discussion Essay: Overview of Joseph Smith's Translations Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring don...

Jan 20, 20232 hr 7 min
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