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Welcome to the Layer 8 Podcast season 5! This season we’ll have conversations with social engineers and OSINT investigators who will tell their stories. We hope you enjoy them.
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Episodes

Episode 41: Leon Johnson and Shane Young - Pwning the Check Casher

Two expert social engineers, Leon (“ sho_luv “) Johnson and Shane (“ t1d3nio “) Young are assigned to infiltrate a financial institution. In this episode, they tell us how they went on the roof, to the basement, got into the safe and even got some valuable shirts for themselves.

Jan 11, 202134 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Episode 40: Hakeem Thomas - The Unredaction Expert

Hakeem Thomas tells us about his start in OSINT, beginning with a Capture the Flag competition where he got a simple, helpful tip that led him in a career direction. He also became the expert at being able to unredact a great deal of hidden information in documents, some of which he'll share with us. You can find Hakeem on Twitter at @S6Vet_Infosec

Jan 04, 202115 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Episode 39: Jenny Radcliffe - The Cat and the Cake (and the Open Window)

We get to talk with social engineer and fellow podcaster Jenny Radcliffe as she tells us a couple great stories. The first story is one that she has never told before, and the second one is what she did when on an SE job and faced with a birthday cake, a cat, and an open window. You can see Jenny's work and check out her podcast at https://humanfactorsecurity.co.uk

Dec 28, 202020 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Episode 38: Tigran Terpandjian - The Experience Catch-22

We have Tigran Terpandjian, also known as Th3CyF0x talking to us about how he also faced the common Catch-22 of needing experience to get a job, but how do you get the experience without a job. He talks about the strategies that he used and gives tips on things others than try too. You can also ask Tigran about his love of foxes and ramen!

Dec 21, 202018 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Episode 37: Billy and Vache - Flair Bartending and SE

This is an interview episode with Billy ( @fuzzy_logic ) Boatright and Vache ( @flying.v ) Manoukian. These guys are social engineers and flair bartenders. During this interview, Billy and Vache talk about how quickly the build rapport and some of the tips and tricks they have for winning people over quickly.

Dec 14, 202037 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Episode 36: Inês Narciso - Teamwork Makes Dreamwork

Our friend, Inês Narciso talks about how to best use multi-disciplinary teams to be most efficient during OSINT and social engineering investigations. She talks about bringing together specialists to create teams that will better get the needed information. You can find Ines on Twitter at @IWN_LX and she also presented at the Layer 8 Conference in 2020 on OSINT’s Role Tackling Disinformation In Portuguese Elections...

Dec 07, 202020 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Episode 35: Joshua Richards - Buying/Selling Body Parts on the Dark Web

Joshua Richards, is also known as AccessOSINT on twitter and can be found as an administrator on the Searchlight Discord server. Josh was doing a little searching on the dark web one day and found someone looking to sell human body organs. In this episode, he tells us how he used OSINT to discover the identity of the person, and hand that information off to law enforcement officials. You can read Josh's blog at https://accessosint.com/...

Nov 30, 202023 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Episode 34: Shelby Dacko - ScaryLilHuman in the Trash Chute

For this episode, Shelby Dacko, also known as @ScaryLilHuman tells us how she got started as a social engineer, and also about one engagement where the team was running into roadblocks. That is, until they discovered one path into the server room was through a very narrow trash chute that only a small person could fit through. Shelby fit the bill. Catch Shelby teaching a course on vishing at the Human Hacking Conference from March 11th to 13th....

Nov 23, 202011 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Episode 33: MangoPDF - The "Don't Get Arrested Challenge"

MangoPDF , also known as Alex Hope is from Australia. One day, a friend asked him what information can he get from a simple boarding pass. With this, the "Don't Get Arrested" challenge began. What information can one person get from a boarding pass, what kind of legal trouble might it lead to and who might even call your phone. All things Alex found out! You can follow along with Alex's story on his blog at The Mango.PDF.Zone !...

Nov 16, 202036 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Episode 31: Joe Gray - His Origins and a Phish

For this episode, we welcome Joe Gray , a senior OSINT specialist at QOMPLX , a frequent public speaker at conferences and trainer of OSINT and social engineering. Joe joins us to tell us how he got into the field and how he got to where he is today. He also tells a second story about a particular phishing engagement where a senior manager built him up as someone who was unstoppable. But was he? Let him tell you how that went....

Jun 29, 202023 minSeason 1Ep. 31

Episode 30: Brent White and Tim Roberts

For this episode, we veer off course again. This time, to talk with Brent White and Tim Roberts from NTT Security and their own site wehackpeople.com . One day, Brent asked on twitter what types of things people would want to know about social engineering and he got some great questions. I asked and he and Tim agreed to answer those questions on this podcast. Let’s hear their answers now....

Jun 22, 202052 minSeason 1Ep. 30

Episode 29: Social Engineers from Rapid7

For this episode, we talk with three expert social engineers from Rapid7 . Leon Johnson , Aaron Herndon and Jonathan Stines will tell us about some of the best security they’ve seen, some of the worst, some of the tools they carry on an engagement and how they sleep at night, knowing it is their job to trick people....

Jun 15, 202058 min

Episode 28: Josh (@Baywolf88) Huff

For this episode, we welcome Josh Huff, but you might know him as BayWolf88 on Twitter. He is a member of the OSINTCurious Advisory board and runs the web site LearnAllTheThings.net . In his experience doing digital forensics, he learned how to best frame information for those who hired him, which also helps with his OSINT investigations. Plus, he talks about how he dabbles in social engineering!...

Jun 01, 202017 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Episode 27: TrustedSec Social Engineers Ask Me Anything

For this episode, we have another Ask Me Anything treat for you. Today’s guests are four social engineers from TrustedSec . We’ll hear from David Boyd, Paul Koblitz, Scot Berner and Jason Lang. Let's talk about their favorite engagements, some times when things went well, and some engagements that didn’t go so well and how they handle the situation when an engagement goes upside down. We’ll hear of one time when a medical procedure almost went too far and plus some resources on how to get starte...

May 25, 202056 minSeason 1Ep. 27

Episode 26: Krittika Lalwaney - One Woman's Domination in a Male Dominated Field

For this episode, we welcome Krittika Lalwaney. Krittika is a red teamer on the offensive security team for Capital One. She is a social engineering capture the flag black badge winner at DerbyCon in 2018. She takes us through her career path, where she started, which was not in IT, to eventually joining a SOC, catching a red teamer due to her awareness, all the way to her successes of today. This is a story of one woman’s domination in a male dominated field. Take it away Krittika!...

May 18, 202023 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Episode 25: Tracy Z. Maleeff, a.k.a. The InfoSecSherpa

For this episode, we welcome Tracy Z. Maleeff, also known as InfosecSherpa . He has a blog set up at medium.com/@infosecsherpa and a newsletter at nuzzel.com/infosecsherpa . Tracy harkens us back to her presentation from Layer 8 Conference last year titled Lawyers, Guns and Money where she showed us great sources of OSINT research. Today, she gives us even more sources to search and explains how at the heart of it, security is a people problem so let’s also focus on interpersonal communications....

May 11, 202053 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Episode 24: OSINT AMA with Noneprivacy and Ding0snax

For this episode, we break our format again and interview two OSINT experts, Francesco Poldi and Jason Edison. Also known as @NonePrivacy and @Ding0snax on Twitter. These two are commonly found sharing information on the https://osint.team server. In this “Ask Me Anything” find out their thoughts on an OSINT mindset, some investigations they have dug in to, what gets them excited and how you can also be a better OSINT investigator....

May 04, 202049 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Episode 23: Amanda Berlin - The $15,000 Teddy Bear

For this episode, we welcome Amanda Berlin of Blumira . She is also the CEO of the non-profit organization Mental Health Hackers , and can be found on twitter at InfoSystir . Today, she tells us about a romance scam where she helped a friend finally understand she was being duped, and explains how these work, plus she’ll tell us a little bit about a fifteen thousand dollar teddy bear....

Apr 27, 202012 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Episode 22: Derrick Levasseur - Going to College...for the Bust

For this episode, we welcome Derrick Levasseur , winner of Big Brother season 16 , host of the Discovery ID tv show Breaking Homicide and the author of the best selling book, Undercover Edge , which helps you find your strengths and gain confidence to win in all situations. Derrick tells us the story about the first time he went undercover as a police officer and the methods he used to quickly gain the trust of a university drug dealer over a few games of pool that eventually led to a bust....

Apr 20, 202021 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Episode 21: Adam Compton - The Ladder and the Big Gulp

For this episode, we welcome Adam Compton, a pentester and social engineer for TrustedSec . You can also meet TrustedSec at the Layer 8 Conference, and you can find Adam on twitter at Tatanus . Adam talks about the various ways and methods that he was able to successfully test the physical security of a health care facility, using the remnants of a Big Gulp and a ladder in the snow, as well as simply asking for a tour....

Apr 13, 202018 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Episode 20: Ritu Gill - Tips and Tricks from OSINTtechniques

For this episode, we welcome Ritu Gill, also known as OSINTTechniques on twitter and at osinttechniques.com . First, Ritu helps us to understand the differences between intelligence and data. Then she takes us through some examples of combinations of OSINT and social engineering. In one such example, she finds a way to get a target to reveal his real name on Facebook. She also tells us about canary tokens and phone spoofing....

Apr 06, 202011 minSeason 1Ep. 20

Episode 19: Jayson E. Street - "One of the Best Stories I Can Tell"

For this episode, we welcome Jayson E. Street , VP at SphereNY and will be teaching a two-day course at Blackhat titled “ Access Denied - Social Engineering Detection and Incident Response ”. Jayson tells us about a huge success for him, getting caught. Physical social engineers are often able to breach a company’s physical defenses, but are we teaching the client how to improve? Jayson proudly tells us about one incredible success story....

Mar 30, 202024 minSeason 1Ep. 19

Episode 18: Christina Lekati - They Never Saw Her Coming

For this episode, we welcome Christina Lekati, a social engineer and psychologist for Cyber Risk Gmbh in Switzerland. You can find her on twitter at ChristinaLekati . Christina was tasked with confirming one client’s suspicions that their employee was stealing information from them. In this story, you’ll hear that the target had no idea what was coming for him once Christina got started....

Mar 23, 202022 minSeason 1Ep. 18

Episode 17: AMA with Snow and TinkerSec

Warning: Some language used is NSFW or children. For this episode, we break our format. Usually, we have a social engineer or OSINT investigator on to walk us through a great story, a fun engagement or the methodology of an investigation. On this episode, we welcome two extremely accomplished social engineers, Snow and TinkerSec to just chat, answer a few questions, give opinions and recount a lot of fun stories. You can find them on Twitter at @_sn0ww and @TinkerSec . In this episode, Snow ment...

Mar 19, 20201 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 17

Episode 16: Julie Clegg - Top 5 Things Not Seen on Hunted

For this episode, we welcome Julie Clegg, the OSINT expert on the United Kingdom-based television show " Hunted ". Julie is also putting together OSINT2020, an event where OSINT investigators can come together and talk about the future of investigations. You can find out more at OSINT2020.com . Julie talks with us about her five favorite events that happened on Hunted but you didn’t get to see on television. She talks about various activities by the hunters and some pranks that the hunters and h...

Mar 16, 202026 minSeason 1Ep. 16

Episode 15: Cat Murdock - Know Your Name and Bring Snacks

For this episode, we welcome Cat Murdock, a security consultant and social engineer from Guidepoint Security. You can find Cat on Twitter at CatMurd0ck . While most of our episodes are safe for work, this one has a few words mixed in that you might not want children to hear. Cat takes us through some of her social engineering encounters, explains why snacks and bathroom breaks are important and why the names on paperwork are very important....

Mar 09, 202042 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Episode 14: Dutch_OSINTGuy - Spot the Jihadi

For this episode, we welcome Nico Dekins, also known as Dutch OSINT Guy and a co-host of the OSINT Curious podcast . You can find Nico on Twitter at Dutch_OSINTGuy . Law enforcement officials in the Netherlands asked him to confirm whether a potential Jihadi’s threats were credible. They only gave him a first name and minimal other information. Find out how Nico went through his methodology to get the confirmation they needed....

Mar 02, 202017 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Episode 13: Alethe Denis - Social Engineer Your Own Brain

For this episode, we welcome Alethe Denis , the founder of Dragonfly Security and the reigning champion of the Defcon social engineering capture the flag competition. This is Alethe’s story of where she came from, how she was always a social engineer from childhood and also how words from Lady Gaga turned her life around. She tells us how we can social engineer ourselves to move in a positive direction....

Feb 24, 202053 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Episode 12: Keith Cox - The Value of Flexibility During Vishing

For this episode, we welcome Keith Cox, a social engineer and pentester from Rapid7. Keith takes us through a recent vishing engagement and he tells us how sometimes you can learn from the initial calls you make to drastically change your pretext and how it worked for him. Keith also describes how he got to flip the script a little and help his mentor fine tune his own social engineering skills.

Feb 17, 202047 minSeason 1Ep. 12
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