A Day In The Life | They Don't Teach You That in Law School - podcast episode cover

A Day In The Life | They Don't Teach You That in Law School

Apr 03, 202522 minSeason 7Ep. 411
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

In this episode, we're talking about the practicalities of the legal profession that law school often overlooks. From the stress of managing a law practice to the nuances of client relations, we uncover how the real world changes the idealistic image painted in textbooks.

We also touch on the importance of building a network and the unique challenges faced by those starting their own practice, especially in fields like criminal defense.

Whether you're a seasoned lawyer, a law student, or someone considering this path, you'll find valuable insights into the day-to-day hustle of legal work.

Key Takeaways

  • Expect the Unexpected: In real-world practice, lawyering isn't just about the grandeur cases and fancy cars. It's about juggling unexpected challenges and learning on your feet. Whether it's a surprise trial date or last-minute client issues, adaptability is essential.
  • Client Relationships Are Crucial: Unlike public defenders, private lawyers must maintain a robust connection with their clients. Building trust isn't just about solving legal problems but understanding unique client needs beyond the courtroom.
  • The Art of Business in Law: Starting a practice involves more than just legal knowledge. From understanding file management to keeping the phones ringing, the business side of a law practice is a constant learning curve. Success requires balancing client expectations with professional and personal workloads.

Teaching Moments

05:16 Starting a Law Practice Challenges

09:36 Public vs. Private Legal Representation

12:09 Role of Counselors in Legal Jobs

16:24 "Balancing Private Practice Demands"

17:57 Military vs. Civilian Life: Predictability

Submit your questions to www.lawyertalkpodcast.com.

Recorded at Channel 511.

Stephen E. Palmer, Esq. has been practicing criminal defense almost exclusively since 1995. He has represented people in federal, state, and local courts in Ohio and elsewhere.

Though he focuses on all areas of criminal defense, he particularly enjoys complex cases in state and federal courts.

He has unique experience handling and assembling top defense teams of attorneys and experts in cases involving allegations of child abuse (false sexual allegations, false physical abuse allegations), complex scientific cases involving allegations of DUI and vehicular homicide cases with blood alcohol tests, and any other criminal cases that demand jury trial experience.

Steve has unique experience handling numerous high publicity cases that have garnered national attention.

For more information about Steve and his law firm, visit Palmer Legal Defense.

Copyright 2025 Stephen E. Palmer - Attorney At Law

Mentioned in this episode:

Circle 270 Media Podcast Consultants

Circle 270 Media® is a podcast consulting firm based in Columbus, Ohio, specializing in helping businesses develop, launch, and optimize podcasts as part of their marketing strategy. The firm emphasizes the importance of storytelling through podcasting to differentiate businesses and engage with their audiences effectively. www.circle270media.com

Transcript

Steve Palmer [00:00:00]:

Lawyer talk, they don't teach you that in law school. What is that? Well, we're gonna talk here with Troy, our resident law student, aspiring young legal mind who works from the upstairs. We talk about stuff that he's not learning in law school, and he's what he's really learning is how it really works upstairs. And, you can check us out, by the way, at lawyertalkpodcast.com. Check us out on YouTube. Leave a comment. If you got a topic you want us to cover here at the law school table or when you explore the catalog, you will see I cover things like, appellate work. I recover general breakdown stuff.

Steve Palmer [00:00:33]:

If you got a question about anything, I'll do my best to either answer it myself, talk about it myself, or get somebody in here who knows what the hell they're doing that can answer it for us. But, you know, it's funny today, Troy, we were talking that here's what happens. We spend the week upstairs, and we do these on Thursdays. And we usually talk about what we're gonna talk about when they don't teach you that in law school. And this week, we haven't had a chance to actually do that. So as we were sitting here pondering, alright, now what? Our our producer by the way, we're sponsored by Circle two seventy Media. Phenomenal. If you've got a podcast that you want, if you if you're in the Central Ohio or even even nationally, great podcast consultant.

Steve Palmer [00:01:10]:

Check out Circle two seventy Media. Brett over there will take care of you. But Brett had this idea. Like, why don't you talk about that? Because isn't that what it's like in the real world where you get so darn busy, you don't have time to even think about the stuff you wanna do.

Troy Hendrickson [00:01:22]:

Yeah. Like, in in law school, they pretty much just only highlight the positive magical sides of lawyers. They're just like, well, you guys are gonna they tell you, like, you're gonna just have amazing life. I don't know. Drive nice cars, do all, like, these big cases, and, like, change the world. And it kinda is not like that, like, at all.

Steve Palmer [00:01:40]:

And the world changes you.

Troy Hendrickson [00:01:41]:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the world just kinda pounds you down. It's just, like, terrible. But

Steve Palmer [00:01:46]:

And look. I mean, is they used to say those who teach, teach, and those who do, do do, and usually, they don't cross over. But that's not necessarily true in law school. There's a lot of adjunct professors who will who who have a real practice on the side, and they come in and teach. But a lot of those guys work in law firms, big law firms. And so, you know, you got big law. So you've got huge law firms, little or maybe big law firms, smaller law firms, medium law firms, really small law firms than us.

Troy Hendrickson [00:02:11]:

You know? It's like Yeah.

Steve Palmer [00:02:12]:

You know? And I've had as many as four five lawyers working for me at one time. And now it's now we're just a couple of us.

Troy Hendrickson [00:02:18]:

But That's really, like, as large as, like, I'd, you can correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like most criminal practices, like, if he gets, like, four or five, that's kinda big. Like, it's

Steve Palmer [00:02:26]:

It is.

Troy Hendrickson [00:02:26]:

Yeah. You're mostly, like, it's mostly, like, a local operation. Like

Steve Palmer [00:02:30]:

Now I started with a guy named Eric Yovich. He's deceased since 02/2008, but we created Yovich and Palmer. And at the time, it was it was almost unheard of to have a partnership like that doing criminal defense. It's more of those now. But at the time we did it, we we were actually would walk around sort of bragging. We're the only criminal defense firm in town. For me, we had two of us. And then we hired Massive firm.

Steve Palmer [00:02:52]:

Three and then four and then five. We had, you know, we had up to five. And, it was getting unwieldy for all sorts of reasons because, you know, I'll tell you what they don't teach you in law school about that is a lot of criminal work criminal defense work involves codefendants. So back in the days when I started, it was it was near a moment when I didn't have a multi defendant federal drug conspiracy in the office of some sort. We're we're representing somebody who's accused with, you know, five, ten other people of importing or exporting cocaine, marijuana, whatever. And as criminal defense lawyers, you can't represent codefendants. There's conflicts of interest. So if you have a group of lawyers, a lot of times people would come in and would say, hey.

Steve Palmer [00:03:38]:

Look. Can't you just represent my buddy over here? He's charged with me. I'm like, I can't. My any conflict I have is the same as my partners. So the more you add, you don't you you know, you you can limit yourself too. So now I can refer a case to somebody I share space with, and we share space with Paul Scarcello, great lawyer, and he's, he's been on the show here with us. Now we can work together. Sometimes our interests are aligned, sometimes they're not, but we don't have any conflicts of interest.

Steve Palmer [00:04:08]:

And that's one of those sort of practical side they don't teach in law school.

Troy Hendrickson [00:04:11]:

It's like a great, like I don't know. I guess, it makes it, like, the easiest way possible because passing along information to each other, not, like, not trying to, like, help each other out, but, like,

Steve Palmer [00:04:20]:

you're not allowed to do that if it benefits our clients. We're not allowed do that if it doesn't.

Troy Hendrickson [00:04:25]:

But, like, even, like, just, like, discovery or something like that or, like, did you see this? And then, like, it just it's just super nice being able to just walk into the other room and be like, hey. Did you see this? Like, it's like, yeah. Yeah. Alright. Cool.

Steve Palmer [00:04:36]:

And then, you know, if you look at any business model, ramping up a criminal practice to have that many associates, it gets stressful. Right? So the the I tell you what they're not teaching. Maybe they maybe in your third year, they've got how to start a law practice or something like that. I don't know.

Troy Hendrickson [00:04:51]:

But I took it my second year.

Steve Palmer [00:04:53]:

You took it your second year?

Troy Hendrickson [00:04:54]:

Well, I took it in the fall. But I think most I think I was, like, one of the only two l's in there. But one l's first year, two l's second year, three l's third year.

Steve Palmer [00:05:01]:

That's fancy talk for first, second, third. Right?

Troy Hendrickson [00:05:03]:

Yeah. Yeah. And then four l's like, you know You didn't make it? No. No. No. You're just you're just, you know, you're just taking your time. Yeah. Evening students too.

Steve Palmer [00:05:10]:

Yeah. Night students. Yeah. Yeah. Five l.

Troy Hendrickson [00:05:12]:

Alright, man. Come on. I'm just yeah. I'm kidding.

Steve Palmer [00:05:16]:

But, look, you, the stressful part of starting a law practice, particularly starting out, one, you don't know what the hell you're doing. Now you're you're gonna have your you're gonna have your boots under you a little bit because you've seen how to do it. And I remember when I worked for my mentors, like, even simple things such as what supplies to buy Mhmm. I learned. And I wouldn't have been able to learn that without trial and error. You know, I I I learned what what manila folders is back when he's paper files were the best. They kinda had the double top, what stickers that you put on that actually worked and stuck, how you printed an envelope, how do you send a letter, how do you organize your files, what goes on this side, what goes on that side, how do you keep track and, you know, now there's practice management software that does some of this for you. Which practice management software do you like? These are all things that you have to figure out on your own because they don't teach you that in law school.

Steve Palmer [00:06:10]:

And part and parcel with that, with starting that practice, the other stressful part is you not only know what you're doing don't know what you're doing with, like, that like, the nuts and bolts side of it, the management side of it, but you gotta get the business. And this this may be what what you have to be a special kind of you you you have to really, really like the pain and punishment if you're gonna start your own criminal defense practice because you wait I I lay awake at night thirty years later wondering when my phone's gonna ring next to this day to this day. And I will say my phone always tends to ring. You know, I've been blessed that way, and I am very thankful for that. But people call me and they need my help, and they always have. You know, even when back before Internet marketing, when we had just yellow page marketing, I never did much of any of that. But I was lucky. You know, I had made some contacts, and I slowly grew my business.

Steve Palmer [00:07:07]:

I I've been charmed that way. But I still worry about it. And I imagine they're not telling you in law school, What do you do?

Troy Hendrickson [00:07:15]:

Well, I think they everybody just thinks you come out and just automatically, like, make money. And most people in the criminal defense area, they go most of my friends, they start out in the public defender's office. You know? That's just and I remember my friend, my roommate actually, he was talking down on public defenders. And I I was telling him, I was like, one, these people moved to Columbus. They don't know anybody here. You think they're just gonna show up here and just magically pull in work? Like, they have to start building a network here. They have to start finding people who will call them. Their phones will just, like you're

Steve Palmer [00:07:47]:

saying, magically ring. So here's and and here's the here's the here's the juxtaposition of this that you've just highlighted, whether you did it unwittingly or I or you actually realize what you're doing. Because the at the public defender's office, they're learning how you know, maybe not always correctly or maybe not always the way I would do it, but they're they're at least learning how to be a lawyer. Mhmm. They're inadequate interacting with judges, interacting with prosecutors. They're learning the files, but they're missing a component of it that the market teaches you. And the component of it is client, contact and client, relations. Because at the public defender's office, you're not beholden to your phone ringing.

Steve Palmer [00:08:30]:

You're not. So what does that mean? I mean, you you watch it. You see us interact with clients all the time. I mean, do do you see the do like, what do you see the distinction as?

Troy Hendrickson [00:08:38]:

Well, the first thing I was gonna say is I feel like your phone rings when we're, like, the busiest, and it's, like, I think it's just kinda funny that As

Steve Palmer [00:08:45]:

my buddy says, bananas. It's like bananas that come in bunches.

Troy Hendrickson [00:08:48]:

Oh my gosh. We have so much to do today, and then all all I do is hear you in the office all day talking to new clients, like, just trying to pull them. But, I mean, the phone call comes in, it goes to you, and it's pretty much it's it's almost like a sales pitch kinda deal. But, you know, these people are going through mainly maybe the worst day of their life when they're calling you. That's what sucks. And then you're trying to, like, calm them down, talk to them, try and give them the best strategy, and give them your elevator pitch. But this elevator pitch isn't short. I mean, it's it's a very long elevator ride, and and it it's it's kinda like and I understand.

Troy Hendrickson [00:09:20]:

I sympathize with them. Like, this is this is a very hard time for them. But at the end of the day, this is a business. And, like, if you want, like, premier work, like, you you you had you have to pay for it. And but they also wanna know what they're spending that money on. And it's just a hard Well,

Steve Palmer [00:09:36]:

they do. So and this is the the the the juxtaposition with the public defenders is they don't have to do that. Oh, no. And and this is also one of the prime complaints we get from folks who worked with public defenders. And look, I take my hat off to you folks doing court appointed public defender work because it is hard ass work, and you're doing God's work in a lot of ways because that is you know, that's a that's a slog, man. But what they don't have to do is worry about the phone ringing the next time. So it it really is this understanding of what people are hiring when they hire a private lawyer. And the reason I have that long conversation with people is that it's it I've learned over the years that what people want or what's really going on with an attorney client relationship is a trust relationship.

Steve Palmer [00:10:21]:

So people have to feel comfortable with what I'm telling them because it's a leap of faith. Right? I mean, they they they don't know that on their own. Like, they're they're they're gonna be talking about making the hardest decisions of their life with some dude that they met or that somebody referred them to or they saw online or they just happen to make a phone call. Yeah. And people have to be comfortable with that. They have to be they have to be comfortable with that. The advice they're getting is they can rely on it. They can take it to the bank because it's a leap of faith.

Steve Palmer [00:10:54]:

And a lot of people complain that they're public defenders. Well, they never called me back or I didn't have that. I didn't and it's because the public defenders don't have to do it. And this is not a knock on the PDs. It is not. But in the in the private sector, if I want my phone to ring, then I have to understand what clients need and want out of their lawyer conference room time and time again, you've heard me. I'm a problem solver. Like, you come to me.

Steve Palmer [00:11:30]:

It doesn't mean I don't go to trial. I mean, I'm not a I'm not a plea artist or whatever. I'll try a case when I need to. I don't go to trial. I mean, I'm not a I'm not a plea artist or whatever. I'll try cases when I need to. But sometimes the solution to the problem is a jury trial. Sometimes the solution to the problem is something less than that, a plea bargain.

Steve Palmer [00:11:42]:

Sometimes the solution to like, your problem might be alright. You've got or I have a client with with an alcohol issue. I have a client with a certain job. I have a client who's a professional licenser holder. Like, their problems are all unique, and I have to figure all that out and then help craft a solution to the problem. And I think clients people want that. They need that because that's lawyering. It's not just going into a courtroom and questioning witnesses.

Steve Palmer [00:12:09]:

In fact, that's a pretty small part of what we do. So if we're and now if I don't do that effectively, if I if I'm not open and in tune with that, and it's not again, I'm not complaining about this. This is part of the job I enjoy. You know, we're counselors. So I, if we don't do that, then my phone's not gonna ring. And if my phone doesn't doesn't ring, I don't have any business. And if you're on the public defender side, it doesn't matter because you've got a job. And if you and public defenders, I think, have to learn this when they come out and because they haven't had to do this.

Steve Palmer [00:12:42]:

Doesn't mean they can't. It doesn't mean they're not great lawyers. I some of the best trial lawyers I've ever seen, public defenders. But, you know, on the business side of it, it's a different beast. They don't teach you that. I mean, they like No.

Troy Hendrickson [00:12:54]:

They don't.

Steve Palmer [00:12:54]:

They don't. They don't. And most have often remarked, you've heard me. I think everybody at some point in the legal profession should have to do what we do. Mhmm. Because you you you learn to feel the actual concerns of people as opposed to just numbers and and facts.

Troy Hendrickson [00:13:11]:

I think the the phone calling is also a little more stressful in this industry. I think it's the same for, like, PI and, like, family. And I think we've touched on this before is a lot of these other all the adjuncts that we have, they're like, yeah. We have a contract with this company. We have a contract with this company. And I'm sitting down, like, well, your phone is going to ring. Maybe not as much as you want, but, like, you're guaranteed a ring from that company. You're guaranteed some pipeline of work where us, personal injury and family, it's like, I'm gonna call you.

Troy Hendrickson [00:13:38]:

And in theory, you're never gonna call again. Yeah. In theory. And now, unfortunately, you sometimes they do.

Steve Palmer [00:13:44]:

Only as good as your next case. Mhmm. And maybe it's not even that. Maybe you're only as good as the case you're working on now that you're getting paid for because you'd have no guarantees that tomorrow's another one. You just don't. And you start one off. So you have to figure out your way to get through all this. Now when we started this when we started this conversation, I was gonna go in a different direction, but I'm gonna take it there now.

Steve Palmer [00:14:04]:

We don't have a we didn't come down pre prepared with a topic.

Troy Hendrickson [00:14:08]:

No. Yeah. We just And there's

Steve Palmer [00:14:09]:

a reason for that. This week has been a freaking monster. Yeah. Right? It's been a monster week. It's hard to believe we're even sitting here doing this. So what does that mean? It means that we're getting ready for a trial, and the judge has already belayed down the lawn, banged his gavel as loud as he could. No more continuances. Can we

Troy Hendrickson [00:14:28]:

mention that about how it was kind of this was something that I I've never seen, and

Steve Palmer [00:14:34]:

I imagine you never seen either was Oh, I've seen it.

Troy Hendrickson [00:14:34]:

Oh, you saw okay. It was so it was just from, like, my perspective, we wrote down, yeah, we'll take over. And then the judge writes down, like, underneath it. Yeah. And you are going to trial this day, and it's in, like, what? Like, it's in, like, a week and a half. Yeah. And it was, like Yeah. I was okay.

Troy Hendrickson [00:14:49]:

Whenever you described it to me, I was, like, he didn't actually do that.

Steve Palmer [00:14:52]:

And I've

Troy Hendrickson [00:14:53]:

read it.

Steve Palmer [00:14:53]:

I was, like, oh my god. He he really did it. He did it. I was, like, what? And, look, I met with those folks on a weekend. I talked to him on a weekend, and It's not my first rodeo, and I know the form. I know the judge, and I know the the place. And I'm like, alright. There's a there's a decent shot here that I know this case is scheduled four weeks from now that I have to be able to try this case and get ready for it.

Steve Palmer [00:15:16]:

This is now if you think that you if you take a case like that with a short fuse and you think you're just gonna get it continued, think again. And, you know, the response is gonna be, well, that's not fair. They have to give your client a right it's like, no. Fair fair went out the window Sure. You know, in, you know, the day we were born. Yeah. Fair doesn't count. And we have to be ready for that trial.

Steve Palmer [00:15:38]:

And we are. Mhmm. We are. So what is it? All hands on deck. I I had to evaluate my calendar. And I actually looked at my calendar. I'm like, what do we got coming up? Couple of briefs in the court of appeals. Alright? That's a couple nights and weekends.

Steve Palmer [00:15:49]:

We're gonna be burning the midnight oil. Yeah. The real issue is I have something a week right after this that's a monster that we're getting ready for. And then in the mean time, like you said, I've had, like, 10 people call me that want my work or want that want help. I I can say no to that, and I have on some of them. I've said, look. I just can't I don't have the bandwidth this week to deal with your problem. Mhmm.

Steve Palmer [00:16:10]:

But, you know, then you you you they don't teach you in law school how it's easy for the ethics guy to say don't take on work you can't do. Yeah. Yeah. I got a mortgage. I got employees. Mhmm. I've got

Troy Hendrickson [00:16:23]:

I got a dog to feed.

Steve Palmer [00:16:24]:

You got a dog to feed. I got two sons. So there's a balance there that you have to find. In in private practice, it's like you're like a cork in the ocean, man. You're just getting bobbed around all over the place. And this is why if you're gonna go out on your own and you're gonna start a law practice, get good people around you, even if you're just sharing space because then you can lay off some work if you need to. And that's what I've done that this week. Yep.

Steve Palmer [00:16:49]:

You saw I met with Paul. Mhmm. He said, look, I could use some help here and there, and I trust him implicitly to do what I would do with the case. You gotta, of course, inform your clients that's what you're doing. Yeah. So and so is gonna be on this. He's gonna be helping. We're gonna be working together, put it in writing.

Steve Palmer [00:17:02]:

But it you know, those are the kind of things that they don't always teach you in law school. At least, I I remember in ethics learning some of that, but the nuts and bolts of it are different. When you're in the storm, we got a brief due today. Yeah. And we're gonna find it's fortunately, we've got a good draft. We're working. It's gonna be done. Mhmm.

Steve Palmer [00:17:18]:

We had a brief due yesterday. I fortunately, we had you know, I got it done. Yeah. And then then we got all this prep to do on these other matters, and I was in meetings all afternoon. So yesterday. So it's like, alright. I'll get it done. How? Well, it's what we do.

Steve Palmer [00:17:34]:

But, you know, it it they don't teach you that that level. I don't know if you could. I mean, you were in the military, I guess. So maybe I I I'm trying to think of another area where you just live with it. Like, if you if you have a red line, you're a line of here that what is your we'll call it the crap on your shoulders line. Mhmm. Like, when when is it too much? Like, you but I live with it constantly.

Troy Hendrickson [00:17:57]:

I think I think the big difference with the military is, like, it's pretty far planned out when that that crap week's gonna happen. You know? So it's like I mean, there's weeks where we were twenty four seven doing something, like, three hours of sleep, but that's it. Like, it was miserable. But I had, like, a ninety day notice. You know? Where here, it's like like, I don't, like, I don't know how this week's next week's gonna go. You know? I don't have a week after that's gonna go. It's which I I kinda like and I kinda hate. It makes

Steve Palmer [00:18:23]:

it makes it a little exciting. I don't know. I think if you actually got the psychologist out and forced us all to get full blown psych evals, you would find that what I do tracks with ADHD. I have ADHD. So I think you would find that it tracks with ADHD.

Troy Hendrickson [00:18:39]:

I can tell you have ADHD upstairs. Yeah. You can see it.

Steve Palmer [00:18:42]:

And and it's because there's all like, you have to be able to say, alright, squirrel. Okay. Now we got a chipmunk. Let's go chase to do over there while we're at it. You know, like, you have to be able to do all those things and then drive them home to now that's the trick. You have to conquer it and drive them home to completion. And if if if you are a if you're a box checker, you're gonna be really successful in life, but not at this job. Because I'm in the middle of checking this box.

Steve Palmer [00:19:08]:

This is done. I gotta get this done today. It's on my schedule. I'm gonna do it today, and then the phone rings. Judge is on the phone, says you have to be here in court immediately because your client's arrested or get a phone call. Hey. I've got, mister my neighbor, Bob, has just been picked up. He's gonna appear in federal court for an initial appearance at 2PM.

Steve Palmer [00:19:28]:

Can you be there? Now, look. I understand I wanna check that box, but I still got the mortgage, and I still got the other Yeah. And often, it's a more interesting project than what you're working on. So anybody with ADHD knows what that means. Yeah. You're gonna go chase the shiny lure. Mhmm. But it's, it's a it's a delicate balance.

Steve Palmer [00:19:46]:

You've gotta be able to perform the work, and then you've gotta be able to shove it aside. Like, And I know your life is like that too. So you you look. You you don't even realize how you have come into this somewhat naturally. You've got a side business. You're in law school, and you wanna work full time at my practice and take on stuff. Like, what kind of moron does that?

Troy Hendrickson [00:20:09]:

Oh. I I don't

Steve Palmer [00:20:09]:

say that with all endearment. Right?

Troy Hendrickson [00:20:11]:

I don't and, it it makes the, relationship status hard for me, and then I also don't spend enough time with my friends. But, you know, it's in my head, I was like, I keep it down for a couple of years.

Steve Palmer [00:20:20]:

You know? You're you're yeah. No. It's like that's what I said thirty years ago. But, so look. They don't teach you in law school what it's like to have a week like this when you wake up on Monday and you don't realize what's like, sometimes you wake up and you guys, alright. I got a monster week, and then it just gets doubled. And sometimes you wake up, I got a monster week, and gets resolved. They don't have to do anything.

Steve Palmer [00:20:38]:

This was a middle of the road. Like, we had a monster week and then more and more and more sort of got piled on and your personal life gets in the way. Your professional life's got a new business gets in the way. Everything gets in the way. And you somehow have to manage it and we always do. We always do. But, look, managing that stuff, it's not for the faint of heart. And, you know, your dear professors used to work at the big law firm.

Steve Palmer [00:21:00]:

They had their own stress. They had their own hourly billing requirements and all that. It's not the same.

Troy Hendrickson [00:21:06]:

I do like the adjuncts a lot, though. It's an I I I enjoy them. The big thing is, like, when they're teaching, they're like, this with the textbook with ABA is like, now you teacher this, and they're like, but this is what's actually happening.

Steve Palmer [00:21:16]:

Here's a joke.

Troy Hendrickson [00:21:17]:

Yeah. Yeah. I love that.

Steve Palmer [00:21:18]:

Yeah. And I love it. I'm like, I'm gonna do awesome.

Troy Hendrickson [00:21:20]:

Like, that's great. Yep. Yeah.

Steve Palmer [00:21:22]:

So, look, you got a topic you want us to cover at the they don't teach you that in law school series. And it doesn't have to be if you're not even if you're not a law student, you're thinking about going to law school and you got a question about what that's you got a resource right here, Troy. I'll be happy to kick it around, and I can try to dust off the cobwebs in my brain and remember what it used to be like. At any rate, this is Lawyer Talk podcast where you can check us out at LawyerTalkpodcast.com. Send us a question. Send us a comment. Shoot us a topic or just like and share. We and, if you do like, put like and share off the record on the air till next week.

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android
Open in Metacast