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Law of Code

Jacob Robinsonlawofcode.io
Discussions with regulators, top lawyers and entrepreneurs about the legal framework for blockchain technology. We look at international regulations, trends, and jurisprudence impacting crypto and its related parts.
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#118 - Crypto Taxes, NFT Settlements and Decentralization with Zach Rosenberg

Zach Rosenberg (@ MeatEsq ) is an attorney and principal at Rosehill Legal, a boutique transactional firm assisting early-stage founders, largely in the crypto space, with structuring, funding, building, and deploying products and networks. He previously worked as an M&A Tax Director at PWC where he spent eight years advising large private equity firms and public company clients on large acquisitions, divestitures, and restructuring transactions. You can connect with Zach via email at zach@r...

Oct 10, 202359 min

#117 - Ryne Miller on the CFTC's DeFi Settlements and the history of Gary Gensler

Ryne Miller is the founder and managing partner of Miller Strategic Partners LLP, a law firm specializing in: 1. Regulatory advice and investigations counsel for the traditional trading and markets industry; 2. Regulatory and strategic advice for digital asset and blockchain companies; and 3. Crisis and incident response management. Ryne was previously General Counsel at FTX US, a Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell and Legal Counsel to Chairman Gary Gensler while at the CFTC, during the CFTC’s D...

Oct 02, 202358 min

#116 - Discussing Coinbase's L2 (Base) and FriendTech with Jolie Yang

Jolie Yang (@ JolieYang ) is a former legal partner to Coinbase's product, engineering, and design teams on its Web3 initiatives, such as self-custodial wallet, decentralized identity, digital assets, as product counsel. While at Coinbase, Jolie was part of the team that launched Base. Prior to Coinbase, Jolie was an attorney at Davis Polk and Skadden, Arps. Show highlights: [4:00] Working on Coinbase's IPO [7:00] Building Base [11:30] Potential Token for Base? [16:00] How Base works [23:00] Dec...

Sep 29, 202359 min

#115 - Challenging Patents Impacting DeFi with Amanda Tuminelli of the DeFi Education Fund

Amanda Tuminelli (@ amandatums ) is chief legal officer for the Defi Education Fund, where she leads the organization’s impact litigation and policy efforts. She was previously an attorney at Kobre & Kim and Dechert LLP, and served as a Judicial Law Clerk for the Eastern District of New York. Show highlights: [1:00] DeFi Education Fund's petition to challenge a patent impacting DeFi [12:00] Amanda's introduction to crypto [21:00] Her role as Chief Legal Officer of the DeFi Education Fund [25...

Sep 11, 202356 min

#114 - CFTC Regulation of Crypto with Michael Frisch

Michael Frisch is a partner at Croke Fairchild Morgan & Beres where he leads the firm’s Government Litigation and Investigations Practice. Mike previously worked at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), where he brought one of the CFTC’s first enforcement actions involving cryptocurrency — CFTC v. Bitfinex — and was part of the team responsible for the CFTC’s action against Tether in 2021. Show highlights: [1:30] Mike's introduction to crypto [3:00] The history of the CFTC's rules...

Sep 07, 202342 min

#113 - Decentralized Dispute Resolution with Mark Cianci of Ropes & Gray

Mark Cianci is Counsel at Ropes & Gray, where he represents hedge funds, private equity firms and their portfolio companies, and clients in other industries in complex commercial litigation, cryptocurrency litigation, qui tam actions, bankruptcy litigation, and government investigation and enforcement matters. Mark also counsels clients in the blockchain and cryptocurrency space on a variety of regulatory considerations, including compliance with securities laws. Show highlights: [1:30] Mark...

Sep 04, 202345 min

#112 - India's Crypto Law Regime with Ashish Chandra of CoinSwitch

Ashish Chandra is the General Counsel of CoinSwitch, India's largest crypto platform pivoting into a multi-asset wealth-tech superapp. With over 22 years of experience in the tech industry, Ashish also led the legal and regulatory affairs of WhatsApp for India. He helped build the e-commerce and fintech/payments business of Facebook, Instagram & WhatsApp in India. Show highlights: [1:30] How crypto regulation has evolved in India [8:00] India's landmark Supreme Court decision [13:00] Tax on ...

Aug 28, 202347 min

#111 - Ross Campbell on ERC 1155 and Legal Engineering at Kali DAO + Nani.

Ross Campbell (@ z0r0zzz ) is a legal engineer and co-founder of KaliDAO , in addition to being a corporate attorney. Ross is also working on NANI , a protocol mixing AI and crypto and is a founder of LexDAO. Previous episodes with Ross: 1. #5 - Ross Campbell: Legal engineering, Bar Association DAOs, use cases for oracles, and much, much more 2. #30 - Ross Campbell: Legal Engineering and Kali DAO Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the La...

Aug 14, 20231 hr 4 minEp. 110

#109 - Stephen Palley on the Evolution of Crypto Law, Insurance, Dumpsters and AI.

Stephen Palley (@ stephendpalley ) is a litigation partner and co-chair of Brown Rudnick’s Digital Commerce group. Stephen is a seasoned litigator with over 20 years of extensive courtroom experience litigating and trying complex commercial matters. Stephen has written extensively and been quoted widely on legal issues arising from the use of Blockchain technology, with appearances in both print and television media. For more on Stephen's background, listen to episode 28 of Law of Code: #28 - St...

Jul 30, 202352 min

#108 - The Solana Foundation's Amira Valliani on Web 3 Policy

Amira Valliani (@ amiravalliani ) is Policy Lead at the Solana Foundation. She previously built and sold a creator economy company and served as an advisor at the White House and State Department. Note that this episode was recorded prior to the Ripple Labs decision. Show highlights: [3:00] Policy work at Solana Foundation [7:00] Change in policy [10:30] Challenges and stories of building in Web3 [24:00] Amira's role at the White House [29:00] Building Glow & more. Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson...

Jul 26, 202331 min

#107 - Accredited Investor Rules with Larry Florio

Offering a masterclass on the Accredited Investor rules, this episode distills months of historic research and detailed reviews of the securities laws, as well as a 3+ hour conversation I had with Larry Florio (@larryflorio), into an evergreen episode providing everything one should know regarding the accredited investor standards in the U.S. and across the globe. Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be const...

Jul 22, 20231 hr 33 min

#106 - Bitcoin Ordinals and IP Considerations with Cameron Pick

Cameron B. Pick is a partner at Marshall Gerstein & Borun LLP who advises clients in the blockchain and metaverse space on intellectual property issues. In this episode, Cameron explains Bitcoin Ordinals, the difference between Ordinals and Ethereum NFTs, and the interplay between IP law and web3. Disclaimer: Jacob Robinson and his guests are not your lawyer. Nothing herein or mentioned on the Law of Code podcast should be construed as legal advice. The material published is intended for inf...

Jul 20, 202343 min

#105 - Blockchain and the Sports Industry with Samir Patel

Samir Patel (@SamirPatelLaw) is an innovation and technology attorney in Holland & Knight's Miami office and head of the firm's Document Automation Program. Samir represents startups and emerging growth companies navigating legal and regulatory issues. Samir also works with artists, art galleries and athletes looking to enhance their products and brands through the creation of NFTs, and advises on their market entrance strategy into the metaverse. In 2021, Samir was appointed to the first-ev...

Jul 18, 202358 min

#104 - Wachtell Lipton's David Adlerstein and Kevin Schwartz on Decentralization, Smart Contracts, Tornado Cash & NFTs

David M. Adlerstein is counsel in the Corporate Department at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz. His practice focuses on mergers and acquisitions, capital-raising transactions, corporate governance, and other corporate and securities law matters, with a focus on financial institutions and technology transactions. He is a member of the Firm’s Crypto Team and frequently writes and speaks about blockchain technology, cryptocurrencies and smart contracts. Kevin Schwartz is a partner in the Litigati...

Jul 11, 20231 hr 10 min

#103 - Tom Lombardi on Bitcoin ETFs, Institutional Investors and SEC's proposed custody rules

Tom Lombardi (@ tomlombardi ) is an adjunct professor of finance at Pepperdine University, California, teaching Decentralized Finance in the Business School. He was formerly a Managing Director at 3iQ (worked on the first regulated crypto fund), Director at Wave Financial (one of the first crypto RIAs), and Head of Growth for the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance. Show highlights: [8:00] Importance of institutional investments in digital assets [16:00] Bitcoin and institutional investors [24:00] Bitc...

Jun 29, 20231 hr 18 min

#102 - A Masterclass on Global Crypto Regulations with XReg Consulting

Nicky Gomez (@XRegNicky) is the Senior Partner at XReg Consulting . A former regulator with 15+ years of experience in the crypto and financial services industries, Nicky provides strategic regulatory advice and has successfully secured licenses and authorizations for clients in Europe, Gibraltar, the Caribbean and Asia. As the co-chair of the Global Digital Finance AML working group, he helps shape global cryptoasset regulatory standards that mitigate risk and encourage innovation. Aaron Unterm...

Jun 26, 20231 hr 1 min

#101 - Legal Wrappers for DAOs: DAO Research Monthly

The goal of this podcast is to help DAOs and their members understand the potential legal wrappers which arise from bespoke legislation. This is the second episode of the DAO Research Monthly series, created by Jacob Robinson, Kyle Smith and Kyler Wandler. This episode reviews the legal wrappers created for DAOs. What do we mean when we say legal wrapper? What benefits do they offer DAOs and their members? What are the risks? We answer these questions and much more. [4:30] Evolution of the moder...

Jun 23, 20231 hr 15 min

#100 - Why Crypto?

This podcast answers the "why" behind the blockchain space. It is a compilation of answers given from previous guests of Law of Code who explain why they believe in this technology, why they work in this space and what gets them excited about the future. This podcast was largely inspired by Polygon's Value Prop , a crowd-sourced and entirely open database, created to showcase the diverse and unique use cases for blockchain technology – across all networks – which are making an impact throughout ...

Jun 21, 202330 min

#99 - Overview of Crypto Regulation in USA and Canada with DLx Law and McCarthy Tetrault

In this episode of Law of Code, partners at McCarthy Tetrault's Fintech practice Ana Badour and Lori Stein, along with DLx Law's Lewis Cohen, Angela Angelovska-Wilson and Greg Strong discuss the differences in crypto regulation between Canada and the US, from securities rules to banking and AML policies. Show highlights: [3:00] Binance and Coinbase SEC charges [11:00] Digital assets and investment contracts [21:00] Differences in the Canadian approach to secondary sales [32:00] Banking and AML h...

Jun 16, 20231 hr 5 min

#98 - Understanding the Coinbase and Binance SEC charges with Collins Belton

Collins Belton (@collins_belton) is the founder and Managing Partner of Brookwood P.C., a boutique transactional practice focused on serving founders, startups and emerging technology companies working on frontier technology, particularly in the digital asset space. Collins was previously Counsel at Atrium and an Associate at Wilson Sonsini. Show highlights: [1:40] Binance charges from SEC [10:45] Is BUSD a security? [23:00] Binance complaint alleging tokens are securities [30:00] Binance asset ...

Jun 12, 20231 hr 14 min

#97 - Grayscale's Craig Salm on a Bitcoin ETF & the SEC

Craig Salm (@CraigSalm) is the Chief Legal Officer at Grayscale Investments, the world's largest digital currency asset manager, where he oversees the daily legal and regulatory operations of the business and its products. Prior to joining Grayscale, Craig was a corporate associate at Paul Weiss. This episode builds on a previous episode covering everything you need to know about the Grayscale lawsuit against the SEC. Show highlights: [2:00] Genesis block [13:00] Learnings from Paul Weiss [17:00...

May 23, 202348 min

#96 - Investment Contracts & Crypto: Takeaways from 300+ Cases with DLx Law's Freeman Lewin

Freeman Lewin (@ Freeman_Lewin ) is an Attorney at DLx Law , where he advises clients in all matters related to blockchain, smart contracts, and tokenization. In late 2022, the DLx Law team published a comprehensive analysis of every "investment contract" decision by U.S. appellate courts since 1946: The Ineluctable Modality of Securities Law: Why Fungible Crypto Assets are Not Securities . Their publication has since been cited in Coinbase's response to the an SEC Wells Notice, the Dissent of C...

May 17, 202339 min

#95 - Caitlin Long on Custodia Bank, Crypto & the Federal Reserve

Caitlin Long (@CaitlinLong_) is a 22-year Wall Street veteran active in bitcoin since 2012, and whose passion is a fair and stable financial system. She is also the founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, a chartered US bank specializing in digital assets. Show highlights: [1:40] Operation Chokepoint 2.0? [4:40] Importance of Access to the Federal Reserve System [9:25] Origins of Operation Chokepoint [17:20] Custodia Bank [24:00] Checks & Balances [29:23] What's Next for Custodia Bank [31:00] Habi...

May 04, 202335 min

#94 - The Blockchain Association on Crypto De-Banking

This conversation with two prominent members of the Blockchain Association covers de-banking in crypto, hostility from regulators and the state of crypto in America. Jake Chervinsky (@ jchervinsky ) is the Chief Policy Officer at Blockchain Association, the largest advocacy group for the crypto industry in Washington DC. Jake is also one of Variant Fund’s strategic advisors and a board member at the DeFi Education Fund. Marisa Tashman Coppel (@ mtcoppel ) is Policy Counsel at the Blockchain Asso...

Apr 25, 20231 hr

#93 - Canadian Crypto Consolidation with Coinsquare's Eric Richmond

Eric Richmond (@ ericrichy ) is the Chief Operating Officer at Coinsquare and a Co-Founder and Director at Tetra Trust Company . In this episode, we discuss consolidation in the Canadian crypto space (Coinsquare, WonderFi and CoinSmart), Coinsquare's IIROC Membership, Tetra Trust custody solution & much more. [1:33] Consolidating three crypto asset exchanges [9:30] IIROC membership [18:00] Tetra Trust & cold storage [27:00] Bear markets [30:00] Bailment & much more. Disclaimer: Jacob...

Apr 17, 202340 min

#92 - Explaining the 2022 UCC Amendments, with Professor Carla Reyes

Carla L. Reyes (@ Prof_CarlaReyes ) is an Assistant Professor of Law at SMU Dedman School of Law. Professor Reyes is a nationally recognized leader on issues raised by the intersection of business law and technology. Professor Reyes was appointed the Chair of the Texas Work Group on Blockchain Matters in September 2021. The work group is charged with considering policy priorities related to blockchain technology in Texas. Professor Reyes was also named an American Bar Foundation Fellow in June 2...

Apr 13, 20231 hr 8 min

#91 - Liquid Staking Tokens as Non-Securities with POSA

The Proof of Stake Alliance (POSA) is an action-oriented, nonprofit industry alliance advocating for forward-thinking public policies that foster innovation in rapidly growing, sustainable, multi-billion dollar proof-of-stake ecosystems. POSA brings together industry leaders and legal experts to fight for fair regulation that allows the industry to flourish. Guests include: Alison Mangiero (@AMangiero) is the Executive Director of the Proof of Stake Alliance. Alexander Grieve (@AlexanderGrieve) ...

Apr 10, 20231 hr 13 min

#90 - Offshore & Crypto in the BVI, Caymans and Guernsey with Chris Duncan

Chris Duncan (@ chrisrossduncan ) is counsel in Carey Olsen’s Cayman Islands office. Chris leads their Fintech and Crypto group across both the Cayman Islands and the British Virgin Islands, working with some of the largest projects in the crypto space on structuring and regulatory matters (including licensing applications and regulatory investigations). He has been recognized in the Chambers and Partners Fintech guide as a leading individual. In addition, Chris advises high net worth and ultra ...

Apr 05, 202343 min

#89 - Legal liability for DAO members: DAO Research Monthly

The goal of this podcast is to help DAOs and their members understand the potential legal risks that accompany their membership. This is the inaugural episode of the DAO Research Monthly series, created by Jacob Robinson, Kyle Smith and Kyler Wandler. This episode reviews the legal liability of members associated with DAOs. What do we mean when we say liability? What could a token holder or vote be liable for? We answer these questions and much more. Thank you to our sponsors, the DAO Research C...

Apr 01, 202352 min

#88 - Tax attorney Andrew Gordon answers the most common crypto tax questions.

Andrew Gordon (@ accounting ) is a crypto tax attorney and CPA based in Chicago. He and his firm, Gordon Law Group (@ gordonlawltd ), have focused on crypto tax since 2014; They've since prepared hundreds of crypto tax returns for retail investors, whales, celebrity clients, and NFT startups. Andrew also practices corporate law with a focus on blockchain, affiliate marketing, esports, and tech and teaches a course on Emerging Technologies at Chicago-Kent College of Law. Andrew explains his entry...

Mar 27, 202355 min
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