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Welcome To Reality TV Hell

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Whoa, you won't believe what our guest, Amy Cubbison, has to say about her experience filming a reality TV show years ago. From mental manipulation to changing her clocks...it sounded brutal. We have her on to share what reality TV is like because of the recent lawsuit launched at Bravo for the poor treatment of reality TV cast members. It's crazy.

We also bring up Britney Spears and debate whether or not she needs someone to watch over her. Erik reported that Madonna's manager has stepped in to help.

Producer Bryan's Wild Card segment is a quiz for Erik and Laura...just how well do we know each other?

And, Laura shares the story of Madeline, a newly sober woman who she's become friends with. Laura was honored to give her very first 30-day token to her. We are so proud of you, Madeline. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you're stuggling....lauracainad@gmail.com
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And we're live with producer Brian's wild Card after Dark. Thank you? Oh are we on? Hi? Everybody? Laura can't be here tonight. No, I can't. I'm here. I'm here, dan it she's she's here. I'm trying to. Oh, I want I am producer, Brian, are really here? I help you? Laura? Yes? Please do ready, hold on, I have ready, just do it like you normally would. Okay, to give you all such a show that you're not going to believe it. This is Laura Kane after Dark. Thank you. We've already

moved on past. Yeah, this is Eric Rammer after Dark. So literally it's a use it or lose it situation. Oh my gosh, it's I think Eric Rimmer after Dark really falls off the tongue so easily technologies. No, I know it's true. Look there, Oh look at that Kane. Okay, Oh my gosh, all it I went to blue to tooth. I don't want to know. All it took was Brian to touch it. I've had a tough week. Okay, no, not a good week, but it's kind of it roughly. Have you are you okay? Yeah,

I'm fine. Okay. Anyway, Hi, welcome to Laura Kane after dark. You guys, we made it through another week. We did. It's almost September. Oh my god, I don't want to talk about it. Actually will be September. So they is September because of this is Thursday? Are you kidding me? September one? No, it's not. It is Are you? Are you gonna? Are you? Are you? And producer Brian gonna miss me for the next two weeks? Wait? Hold on,

wait what you're leaving thirty one tomorrow September? Can we start this whole thing again? No, wild card, bitch, Come on, we have to be proper starting. We didn't remember that I was leaving. Okay, we're no, no, no, don't he's going on vacation. Don't worry. We're not going on vacation. We're doing We're we're recording. We are. Yes, I'll tell you the schedule. It's not a surprise Saturday night. Please be here. No, yeah, I know. To cancel all your

plans this weekend. We have to do a bunch of podcasts. Anyway. Thank you so much for watching or listening or wherever you grab this podcast. We sure appreciate it. Very pretty and tangerine. Thank you. You're welcome. I appreciate it. And how's it here today? Thank you better than it was on Tuesday? Yes or whatever. Okay, if you haven't subscribed to our channel yet, have it really great? We would love it.

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a subscriber. It's like, and that's on Instagram, and then of course just follow us also on Instagram. Okay, follow us, okay before we get If you don't follow us, Laura, it's kind of like what was that movie Mommy, dearist, I'm gonna hate you with a wirehanger. Yeah, no, I'm not a violent person. I don't do that. She makes me clean her floors with comet and a toothbrush. I felt like doing podcast like a reality TV. We're behind the scene. Oh my gosh,

everything we do an amazing idea. We all need to shoot our own, our own what do they call it? Confessions? About about the show. We could do that. Do you do you watch enough reality TV where you know that kind of I've seen in the office. Oh, Brian, just

watch one episode of Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah, like they do like little confessionals where they will we all have to look we all have to look our worst, like we all have to be so made up and in the most hideous Outfite me either, but I know that's that's the way they usually know. But what they do is they like they it's like a video of one of the cast members saying, oh, by the way, this bit over here, she did this and this and that, and like they did

did tell secrets. It's confessional that could be fun, could be cool. Maybe not. We should do that for the next event. Actually, oh that'd be hilarious. We film the events like behind the scenes, and then we all take turns saying how much of a pain the people were. Oh my god, I'll be like Laura was a total pain in the asps. Oh my god, I'm like, the event's going great right now, two guys, Laura's been a total bitch. Hey, I can get to contact

your mother. You wouldn't know the first thing about. Yes, I did this. I hope I don't sound perverted. But Brian's mom is hot. Yeah, my mom does like great, Oh my god, she's amazing looking. Man, we have a woman coming on. He was gonna she was on a reality show herself eight years ago, yes, Amy Previson, And we're gonna call her and she's gonna tell us what it was like and how she was treated and what the reality show is Young Nanny nine one one.

Do you remember that show where they follow No, I think it's a I thought that nanny's were like the really old ladies. Actually, I think it was a show about families that needed to get control of their children or their situation, wasn't it And they send in that woman. Yes, I believe so. So she was on that. So she's going to tell us like how that one? So we're really were the crazy child or no, she was the mom? Yeah, so well so she had the crazy children.

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Are you trying to get my attention? Are you just bugging me? Don't touch me in this heat? Made the third second basis, Oh yeah, no, you're not going there. It's too hot. I know if I apologize my obviously my air conditioners broken and something something needs to be done. Just making us all a little bit on edge. Fans. You live in San Diego, you know it. I didn't need a fan, so I had a ac. You know it's bad when you and I both have boob sweat. Yes, I know boob sweat, crotch sweat, but sweat,

it's not sweat. Oh my gosh. What was the other one? Goose and the we talked about this, ta, Well, there's that that's different. Yeah, that's but I well that well, I don't have one of those doing. No, you do not have a food pat All right, whatever, let's stop because now it's time for my host chat. And this is something that I'm very proud of. I'm very proud of this person, and she said with all her might, she goes, please tell people

my name, because I am very proud of this. Her name is Madeleine. She reached out to me. She was one day sober, and she was terrified, and she didn't know what the heck to do. She just knew she was in trouble, and she was. She is the same age that I was when I finally got help. So immediately took to her. She was We checked in with each other every day. She deemed me.

She'd send me pictures every day this is how I feel on day five, and every day she would look like a little brighter, a little her face would be more clear, her hair would be more shiny. I mean, it was incredible. So on Sunday, I presented Madeleine with a thirty day token, one that I got my first thirty day token. I found it in my bunches of tokens that I have, I found my first thirty day and that's the most important one. That was I couldn't believe. I couldn't

believe that I had made it thirty days without drinking. It was I felt in my life. It was the biggest accomplishment I'd ever made, and so I wanted her to feel as proud and she did, and she was just like lit from within. She is just doing great. And so I gave her that token, and I gave her a crystal, and I gave her something else and we just we had lunch after and it was just really great. And I just want you to know that it works, this the program.

Whatever. You just reach out. If you think you have a problem, reach out, because there is help, there is a way out, and she is living proof. And I'm very proud of her. Madeline. Congratulations, that's amazing. Anyway, you'll have many more birthdays to come. Oh for sure. I have many many more tokens to give you. I'm just gonna keep getting them and giving them to you, passing them down. So what's up? Do you have a host chat? What's up? Have

do any of you? Know? Well, you guys might did you ever watch Oranges the New Black? Oranges in New Black? Yes, i'd watched that. Yes, okay it was on Netflix. It was, Yes, it is still on Netflix. No it's it's I mean, I'm still it's probably I know, but still up there. Yes, Yes, it was a good show. Yes, so one of the main actresses on there. She's been in like American Horror Story. She was on Oranges the New Black for most of the seasons. Her name's Tarin Manning. I know that actress.

Yes, have you seen the TikTok post. I think it's been pulled down now about it is the most bizarre thing did her. It's her and I don't know if she's high or if she's drunk or what the deal is, but she's talking about it's so bizarre. So she was having an affair with a married man and this is something that she admitted on on TikTok okay. And she her claim to this whole thing was he liked to have his buttled, okay, and she was going to buy him a boat until she

was served by the wife with a restraining order. What a mess it is. The if you guys can still find why would she post that kind of I don't know, but it is the weird and she's attractive in the video you can't even tell it's her. She's got like an eight mile two. No, No, she wasn't able, she was a friend. She was Britney Murphy. Yes, I was thinking Britney Murphy. Yeah, well she looks like she's about eighty years old. Oh no, I don't know what's

going on. But she has a face. It looks like she was made for meth. That's unfortunate, it is. But yeah, she's very thin. But I don't know if something is going on. I don't know if she's struggling with something, which if she is, I hope she gets help. But it it is pulled down. Yeah, I got pulled down. I don't know if they're still I'm sure you can google it and find it. It is the weirdest. I think. The worst thing you can find on TikTok, like do they have is there? Can you have nudity on

TikTok? I'm not even sure. Can you say like the F word on TikTok? Yeah yeah you can. Yeah, you just can't do nudity, but you can. Then there's a there's a yeah, there's a there's a weird thing with TikTok where there was a guy on there that was saying that he you have to email them and send them proof that you've been talked about on large media formats to be verified. You know how you can be verified? On Instagram. Yes, and he's been covered on everything from Rolling Stone

to the New New York Times to newsweek Time magazine. This guy that has a TikTok, and his TikTok is pretty interesting because he will call like if somebody, if a video goes viral of somebody being attacked by somebody or whatever, he will and his group will figure out who it is and call him out on it, like they've had people. They're like investigators. It's like

a team of investigators. And they said, Nope, sorry, we're not gonna verify you because you have none of these media platforms that you say you've been interviewed by or anything anybody's ever heard of. And he's excuse me, Oh no, rolling Stone, newsweek Time, he's been on Entertainment Tonight or all this stuff. I mean it's crazy, but but yeah, this was on TikTok. And I just have to talk really quickly about Britney Spears. So, oh, Brittany, did you hear what happened today? No,

Madonna's manager of forty thirty years. Yea GUYO Seri has stepped into manage her. Oh is that good? That's good. That's a good thing. That's a great thing, right, yes, because she who is she? Who is watching doesn't help her well, doesn't help her case if she clearly needs management. Oh yeah, but no, I mean at least he's competent. He's done a very good job managing Madonna's career and stuff. I think he's a very capable guy. I think he seems to have a lot of integrity.

Yeah, and I mean these videos of her lately are so hard to watch since this whole divorce things were coming in. I mean it's just like a bunch of guys at her house and she's I don't know, it's well, hopefully this will help her. Yeah, we all admit that she may not. Maybe there was a reason she was under conservatorship in the first place. I think that that is not a question. I mean that is it's obvious there's something. Well, it's just the whole thing was Everyone's like this

so unfair, She's being trapped. I'm like, well, and then the second she gets off, she like, within what it's been less than you. You got to give her a break, like even if she did need it, and then she's off of it, like she doesn't know how to handle life. She's been famous for so so long, for such much of her life. She has no support system, no family. I agree with you, I think that she she was, she never went to She's just lost. I don't think she ever. I feel so sorry for she's an

adult. Well no, but she I don't think she ever. I don't even think she went to high school. I know, I don't. I think she was. I don't doubt she hasn't had a different life. But I don't know if that is a reason as to all for like that doesn't explain the rest of everything else, Like she still is a I I think that she's probably one of those people that's been so traumatized, you know, when they you know, they say that some people have been so traumatized at

a certain age that they never get out of that all that age. That makes sense. I just think I'm not saying she should go back on their conservatorship or anything. I just think we all need to recognize that she does have some mental issues that is recognized. She needs she needs the help accordingly, for sure, and I really hope that someone steps in and just loves her, yeah, for who she is, not what she has. Because

I think that that's it's so dangerous. Sam was that guy? Yeah, but it sounds like, well, it seemed if what he says is true, then she's the one that drove him away, right, But I bet I bet it. It cannot be easy to live with someone that has that level of fame, and it's probably in such a fame bubble that they they're not rational. I just don't think that she's probably rational. I don't. I don't think she's that famous anymore. I don't think she has that level.

I'll I guarantee if she got it together, oh yeah, and when on tour, it would be Taylor Swift huge, She's one o thousand it together. She would sell out six nights at Sofi Stadium for sure, because number one, number one, everybody would go because they want to cheer her on, to cheer her on, And then there would also be the people that would go that would just want to see if it was going to be a spectacle or not. You know what I mean. Yeah, I mean

unfortunately you do, but you do. Everybody roots for the underdog, yeah, and you know I mean yes, But the problem is that that under that story was what happened with her, and that undergode Dog got pushed into a situation that she clearly was not ready to handle, which was you know, unlimited supervision or unsupervised you know, like she cleaning some help. So the whole free Brittany movement I think was I don't want to say it was, it was, it was meant it came from a good place. Yeah.

I just think you have to remember is that you know, it is hard to advocate for something and pretend like you have all the information when you don't. Right well, and I do think that everybody that was I don't know, if you saw Brittany Versus Spears on Netflix that documentary idea was insane and if all that is true, then I don't I don't question for a second that she was a little anyway crazy trial. So we've got any coming

on. Yes, Well, first let's talk about Jay. Oh yes, I think so when you Okay, he's a money manager, he's a Certified Financial planner, and he's a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst that is a CDFA. You know, Oh yes, I do know that. I know then I know the letters very well now and uh, he's an all around great guy. Now you went and you had a meeting with him because Eric did it right and he saved his money and now he has some money to manage.

So when you went there, did you guys discuss like like, hey, you could put it here, or you could put it there, or why don't you do this then? Or like is it just like what's the first meeting like? So it was very good and we really got to know each other and each other's story and which made me very comfortable. I like that. I do too. And then he requested to see my documents, which I had to get and I actually just got them and he just texted me

to day to follow up. So okay, we'll be coming. Okay, good boy, you gotta get those documents in. I did get those. Hey. Uh. He is the best money manager I think in San Diego and beyond. He's been doing it for over thirty six years. He knows his stuff. His number is eight five eight five five two six nine six zero and he would be more than happy to answer you if you were to email. Oh my gosh, Yes, it's jayw at Capitol Growththinc dot com.

He's a fast emailer too. He'll he'll get back to the right away and he's got a great website. It's www dot Capitol Growthinc dot com. J Wertzler for being a sponsor on Large after Dark. All right, so now we're gonna call my friend Amy Cubison. Oh my god, excited so quick? Don't we have one more? Oh? Oh? How could I forget? I made a lot of Yes. In fact, I just made an appointment and she's like, what do you for at Lay Cosmetic Surgery Center in metz Va? And I said, Hey, She goes, what would

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photos and their special treatment planner. That's glamfam dot com. Okay, now it's time to call Amy Cubson, who was on a reality show, and she's gonna tell us what it was like being on a reality show since Bethany has come out with Raquel saying it's hell right, uh huh. Here she is, let's phone her right now. She says she's getting tired, so hopefully she's still a week. I know you went along. It should be Hi, Laura, Hi, Amy, Hi Amy, Welcome to Laura Kane

after Dark. I'm like early bird, but I'll give you what I happened. Okay, give us what you have. Thanks, thank you, so much for going on. I know, it's all you really are an early bird. It's only it's just about eight thirty. You're you know, what time do you get up in the morning? And then I go nake me early. Say okay, okay, all right, well we'll make this quick.

But we wanted to know since Bethany has come out and Raquel and they've said all these horrible things about reality TV, you yourself were on a reality show. Tell us about it. Yes, I was on a reality show. Actually when it just started. I'm trying to think. It was like seventeen years ago, and my friend were husband worked at Fox, and I was really stressed out because I had three kids two years apart, and they all stopped in my bed and I was exhausted and Neil didn't help my my

husband X as them now. And so they arranged for an interview, and so did. We did a couple of interviews and and then they like, oh we like youth. They came down to the house and they did a video and everything, and like I didn't really think they said, there are a bunch of families doing it, so I didn't really think they'd pick up. But I honestly legitimately wanted help. Like I was exhausted. Neil had the pigeons. He didn't help me, and then the kids. We're all

in my bed and I was exhausted. So I ah couldn't stop tairning at the time. Anyway, so we got they we got the ship the show, but Neil didn't want to deal. But then they give us fifty thousand dollars or so oh she was like he was like, okay. So anyway, what happened was is like so they came in and it was like for

one episode, it was like a month long production. Oh God, probly hated us because it was all this like movie stuff on the street and anyway, So so when they first started talking to us, they give us personality tests, and I was like, they gave you what personality like m MPIs in different like personality tests like and I didn't I didn't really understand what I so I just did it, okay, and then and then anyway, so if they came in and I was allowed to see my friends, my family,

like it was like three weeks, I wasn't not to give the gym. I wasn't not to leave, Okay, So like if one day, you know, I think seen go to school. So one day, like I had to pretend to JOm like gives the school and I went to Starbucks and they're like, like, you need to get home now. Okay, So number that was number one, and then at first I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't I don't, I don't think I'll cry.

I really really need you guys and the help. So anyway, so what happened was in retrospect, what happened was they were manipulating the times, like they made me look like an idiot, and Neil had the pigeons, and they decided to pick on me because I'm more of a character, you know. So they would not let us sleep and then they'd wake me up in the middle of the dight. And then they would have like they paid Jack William to hit Jack and to act up. So they were paying I

didn't even know this till later. They're paying my kids? Are they there? Were they there? Yeah? Pretty much they were camping out and like they'd let us sleep, but they would wake me up at the crack of dawn and they would wait it. I'm telling you, like it was like I was exhausted, and I was like I couldn't see any family or workout. I mean for me, that was like crazy. And then so then what happened was is they switched from you know, helping me to all of

a sudden picking on me. And because I have ADHD and I have some abandonment stuff, because they started like you know, you know, like saying, you're not following the schedule. And I was close friends with a nanny, nanny Stella. I still talked her, you're not following the schedule, and they started screaming at me. And the more they screamed at me,

the more anxious I thought. And then I would make mistakes. But they also would manipulate, you know, like they would say I was sleeping at this time, We're doing this this time, and it wasn't true anyway. So what happened finally was the nanny came in and she's told me, I'm done with you on a fucking quit. You're you're useless. Okay, So she says that she says't camera, and I lost it. I hadn't. I dropped now, I'm telling you. It was like the worst feeling in

the world I felt. So I'm like, oh, She's like, I've never had a problem with anybody. You don't listen, you don't care, Like it was like stuff in my childhood, like you know, my ADHD stuff. And she literally I started hyper sobbing and hyper ventyling. Okay, sobbing and hyperventyling, and then Neil kicked the camera people out because they're trying to film me. He was like, get out, get out, you know, and I literally I called my friend, one of my friends,

and I was it was like it triggered me, Oh my god. Do you think this is still like this is what happens on like all reality TV? Is this? Is this what happened on vander Pump. Is this why? Yeah? You know some people are made out you look like villains. Yes, I'm gonna mean it's always they always have a you know, motive, and I'll tell you some stuff I know from other shows. So anyway, so when she did that, I literally had a nervous rightdown. I

was like freaking out. And then the next day the producer came in she goes, I'm sorry, you're sad, but it's all gonna be good today. And I'm like, what do you mean She's like, it's all gonna be happy today. So Nanny Stella came in. She was, I'm so sorry they did that. They made me sit that to you. She said, they made me sit at to you and she said, I'm so so sorry, and I was, I mean literally, I mean I felt like it was awful because I was, you know, younger, and I had

abandoned stuff and I was a sensitive soul. So anyway, so and all of sudd they're like, Okay, it's all happy, and like film this happy and it was so weird. And then after a psychologist came in and give us tests again, and I go, why are you getting us these chests? He goes, we want to make sure you make interesting TV. But you're not going to have a mental breakdown, as we said, so they give you you know yeah. So I was like, oh my god. So I felt like used and abused. So so after that I was

really feeling weird. And so I started talking to other families from Fox. You know that we're on Nanny nine O one. We started all talking and they were all talking about how they manipulate and change and surprise you and hurt you and have your kids. They pay their kids to your kids to these

bad things, and we were all like comforting. And also I got a cease and assist letter from Fox that was not allowed to talk to the news media anybody, and I wasn't allowed to talk to any family that had gone through this. Oh my god, okay, wow so this wow. No. In my head, I was like I felt like raped. I mean,

I don't, it doesn't sounds like it's such a strong word. So it was like and I felt like like I wanted to go to somebody and be like, this is so unfair, but it's like I felt like I couldn't do that because and then they put us from the Nanny Man on one book. It was all over the place and they played our episodes thousands and thousands of times over different countries and people, you know, might in laws from England and be like seeing it. So they got a lot of did

you get paid for the times it played? Or only that one who loves some only the one thing, not the book, not the residuals, not anything. Are you surprised that this hasn't happened, that this like lawsuit that Bethany has launched didn't happen sooner? Wait, one hundred percent because I'm I kept saying, yeah, do you feel I mean, I know this was

you said about fourteen years ago. I'm sure it's gotten probably even worse now with just this huge surge of spinoff shows and everything else, But do you find that was it? And not to be too personal, but was it embarrassing for you? Because it sounds like they really kind of manipulated things to make certain scenarios look bad, like your kids were unruly and fighting all the

time and stuff like that. Was that something that you felt like, Great, now I'm going to have to explain this to people and justify Yeah. I mean people who knew me thought it was funny because they the little quirky, but they like, for example, one morning, I'm going to make pancakes my kids, and they pretended it was so much later than it was, like they've changed six sons and stuff. But oh my god, I had I had like different thoughts. I had so many people write mean things

to me. He didn't know me, You're dumb, You're terrible. More I still got it sometimes and I'm like, it's so many years ago, and I go, it was reality TV. And then I had people who have felt compassion for me because I was being picked on. And then I had you know, people who knew me thought it was funny. You thought it was just like they know, I'm a little quirky. But honestly,

it took me a while to recover from that. And I remember thinking like, this is gonna come out, This is gonna come out soon because all the stuff the other families did. And then I just got lost in life and everything. And but I did know somebody who worked on their prentice and he said the beds, they made the beds like three feet long, so they don't sleep well, you know what I mean. They wouldn't make you

tired, so you're vulnerable and you're angry and God. And then and then I heard tons of things you know from the you know, alcohol for me, like there was no alcohol, but like for like a lot of the shows, they make you drink. That's all they do, is yeah, exactly. And then also a friend of mine was on the bachelorette or a bachelor, I can't remember what it was. That they actually told her that

she was going to be chosen and she wasn't. But they did that because they want to make you build up and then be so sad and disciplined or oh that's total manipulation. Yeah, it's awful. It's awful, and it's like and I hope it comes from an end because it's so sad they make, you know, they I don't know, it's it's it's actually like it's

just sad. So you know, it's like it's like like all those shows the Housewives, it's like me things and they showed the other person and it's like it's like and nobody's caring about just being a good mom a person in your private life and living a good life. It's the money. Is it worth that money? No? No, it doesn't see no one. I was offered to do and Fox don't let me, but they offered me a bunch of shows. They wouldn't let me, but I'm I said, I'm

too fragile for this ship. People were so mean and the comments like this woman's an idiot, like and I couldn't even read them because it was so hardful. People can be so so mean behind a computer. Yea, and especially if you're being manipulated to look a certain way, that's so wrong. So do you think reality TV is going to completely change now because of this, I hope. So, I mean, do you think there's a there's a market for reality TV if it's not manipulated? No, I mean I

don't. I don't know, Like I mean, it's so hard to say because I mean, as life unfold and things happen, like there's you know, hopefully some interesting things, but they're they're they have short time, not time, they have to make it really exciting and and so no, I

think it's it's all a bunch of funniness. They like it because it's easy money, they don't have to pay peoples, but it's not an expensive and doing a show and high ratings, but it's sort of I feel like it's part of the downfall of our like, you know, the quality of life here, I honestly do that's a good you know. Any I heard that

on on vander Pump Rules. I just heard this the other day, is that they were going to end it on this last season the ratings were so low and then all of a sudden scand of all happened and it was the highest rated reality TV show in history. And now they're being renewed for another season. And a part of you that thinks that that could be all made

up the whole affair. I don't think. I've been following, you know, Austown General and I've been follow Oh yeah, she's the one that sent us the picture from the concert, right yeah, and that I know, I doesn't know. I don't. I don't think that was because I think they really liked each other and they're hiding it. But unfortunately it came out.

Because I've been following that forever. I didn't went up to sir and like, but I think that that was not to be that, but now it came out, so people were benefiting from it, and it, honestly, it breaks my heart. I feel sorry they were such bullies or a coel and like, you can't imagine the emails and comments she gets, well, you know, and this is what I always find interesting. And I'm not, you know, justifying what she did. I think they were both

equally responsible. But he seems to have comed out well, and he seems to come out of it sort of unscathed, where she's kind of taken the brunt of everything and it takes two to tango and well, well, you know, he he got some you know, some people gave him some verbal abuse. Nothing. It was nothing compared to the abuse. The show was packed right his show. It was like sold out right right everywhere. No she when they when I watched the because I hate bullying and I hate meanness

and disrespect. When I watched the reunion and they were like even Arianna she was, they weren't. I'm like, what, this woman is here to explad what happened, but nobody let her talk and they were like they were like like mean, They're like, you're fucking scum back, You're dead,

You're the devil. You should suck at you. I mean, I was like, I was so upset watching that, Like I was like, this is and I'm like, and they're letting this happen, you know what I mean, Like it's bullying, you know, like every one of them has cheated and done stuff. So it made me sick. I hate that. Well, maybe this is a good thing, this whole Bravo sold Beth anything and leading the charge, and you know what, I know, you have to go to sleep, Amy, And we really really appreciate you being on

the podcast and sharing your story. And I hope you're okay now it sounds like you are. You're good yeah, it took me a long time to recover. Well, but I was on Anyway, you know, I did the other things, but this the social catfish thing, but that was totally legitim that they didn't take anything. But did you see those No, I didn't, I was catfish. Were you on Way? Yeah, the MTV show. I don't know if it was sounds social catfish. Oh, I

don't know about that one. Oh so you were on another another reality show. I know, I know, but this was different. That's another podcast because it's really funny the whole story, but not funny to be any what's funny at the end. You would you be on again to tell that story? Absolutely? Oh awesome, Well, thank you, Amy. We really appreciate go night night, night, night, night, night night. Thank you. Got My kids are teenagers now, but I still say that.

Oh I know me too, me too. I say every night to Laura, night night, night night. Oh God, talk to you later, Okay, thank you so much. Wow. Wow, dude, that's some that was mine. Changing the clocks. That's not surprising. Oh wow,

some of that is, I mean, some of that is. If that's anybody ever woke me up at the crack of dawn, making her look bad for making pancakes like laid it in the morning when it four kids, when it was probably a totally normal time anyway, remember though, because the hard part is they had fifty thousand dollars riding on that too, because if they just walked out, they weren't gonna get their money. Yeah, so that's

hard. I know. Well, we'll see what happens this lawsuit. Don't even ever think that you can wake me up at the crack Okay, yeah, I think we could do a reality show and just be ourselves and it'd be interesting. It would be like we lived together something. Oh my god, that would be all. Brian would be in hell, Oh god, that would be He would think that he was Evan's room. I'm good.

Oh my god, Brian, come so much closer to things. Can you imagine Laura and I all in the upstairs together in this heat with my oh my god, hysterical like a week? I have a queen bed, wouldn't oh I would you do it for one night? No? No, not for free, at least sleeping in the same bed with both of you one night in a queen bed. Yes, no way. Two hundred and fifty dollars two no, no, what five hundred? I have to work work, I have to work now. Okay, so you're tired one day at

work. I work from home. We're gonna work. You're gonna work over that that desk right there. Oh wow, Brian. Five hundred No one for one night. Yeah, I'm going home in the morning though. Oh that I only said night. So it's a thousand dollars. That's how much it would cost for you guys to sleep with me. Yeah, okay, Brian, now's your little segment. Now's your turn. Brian's wild Card, A new little segment we're trying out on the podcast. Get your music on.

It's not good for music. I don't like the crickets. Come on, it's gonna be what's up? Brian's producer, Brian's wild Card, Thank you. I'm today. I have some questions for you guys to figure out you're actually best friends or not? Oh oh oh oh Okay, I'm gonna ask you a question and you're gonna tell me what you think the other person would answer. Okay, basically the newly Way game. All right, I love it. Okay. Number one, what's the weirdest thing you've done in

public? Oh, I know, I know, Okay, Laura, what is Eric gonna say? He's gonna say when he took off his clothes at Cafe Sevilla and ran down downtown naked and lined up a pole or something. It was it was naked. He was the only time he drank, one of the only times he drank himself, and it was accidental drinking because he drank of Sangrea. Didn't think that. Well, I wasn't drinking this. I was eating the fats, right, he eat the fruit, So there's

that is a right. That was yes, okay. And what would Laura say when you had to wear the bikini on Midway and rosecrans No, I was, Oh my god, that was the worst. Did wear a bikini and shine men's shoes? Yeah? That's that was many, many, many Yes. I had lost a bet. Oh, okay, that's fair though, and it was I didn't want to be in a bikini. And well, then why did you make the bet? I don't know, because I didn't think I was gonna lose. I felt bad at first, but I

don't feel bad think's gonna lose. That was so long ago, okay. Question two what's the most embarrassing thing you've done? And oh, well that doesn't never mind, what's the most bizarre text you've ever received from each other? Oh? From that I've given her and that she's given me. Yeah, well, what do you think? What do you think is the weirdest text he sent you? You know, what do you think he's gonna say? Is the weirdest text you sent him? Oh? God, first,

I don't how much time do we have? Now we are teetering very close on a text that I am expecting to get. Oh no, no, a picture? You know what you I have a feeling it's coming, and I don't want it. I'm not. I don't think you'll know. But I'm you're getting closer sending me a picture of his Pooh. No, he hasn't done that yet. It will never happen. Don't do it. It will never happen. To it, No way, I will not do that.

But he sent me pictures he has sent from my wild card. Next week, I'll send you guys pictures of But he has sent me pictures of other people poop. Well, no, it was a TikTok video. I know. Well I don't. And he sends me, we'll throw up videos. He'll say weird text as far as like words, No, I said, he's the worst texture in the whole wide world. He doesn't write all. He'll say, I pour my heart out and he'll go, okay, I sweating on. It's the worst. So I don't know what you'd say.

I don't even do I send you any Maybe even the Keanu stuff is a little weird, because now I still am a little weird one. No, the weirdest one she ever sent me was she had me on voice text and she was talking to Elvis and she was like, oh, you naughty little boy, you dirty little birdie. Oh you will need a spanking. But and I was like, what the oh remember, yes, I accidentally Yeah, all right, that's my god, that's so funny. That's so funny. Let's move us on. Okay, Laura, what is the cringest

thing Eric has ever put on social media? Oh? Oh god, Well, the fact that he prefers Facebook cringes me on a little bit. He's you know what, everybody has their social media that they prefer, and that's okay, but the fact that you he just loves Facebook so much is a little cringey. To me just in general, it is a mark Suckerberg cock sucker. Anyway, Well you know why because I Instagram is hard, not hard, you just scroll scroll, it's easier, easier. But anyway,

anyways, Okay, I don't know what. I don't know. What's the cringest thing. Top contender was last week when you put your lippering on. Oh that was good. Yeah, I got a lot of heat for that. I think everything you put on social media is a little bit cringey. Me. Oh, I'm like, don't be negative, be positive? Like what that's not like? That is not a champion. I want an example of my little videos I make on my kids and stuff, just everything. You know what what? Oh, no, it's going down, Brian.

I'm gonna make I'm gonna make a reel about producer Bryan and I'm gonna I'm gonna get cringing, prove me wrong. No, just to get you. You're saying that you are older and it's fine. Well I'm sorry. What what do you What does a twenty three year old post on I don't post anything, so he doesn't. Well, last time I post was last allween? Do you post on any kind of social media? Do you check social

media. Yeah, I know something that we've I can't even say it on the air, but I know something that we both posted and now it's so cringe e oh yeah, okay, last one. What about the cringing photo we sent? Oh Brian of us kissing? That was yeah, okay, last one, Laura, what does Eric? What do you think Eric does when he's alone? Oh? For sure, this is what he does. He will eat his snacks. He loves popcorn. He'll make a like a batch of popcorn. But he won't he won't sit on his brand new,

glorious Jerome's couch. He will sit on the floor, watch his TV shows, fall asleep with half popcorn Colonel in his mouth, and wake up at three o'clock in the morning. That's what he's usually doing. You are pretty damnage in his workout clothes. He'll be in his workout clothes, right because you won't will have come from working out. He won't sit on the couch. He'll sit on the floor and then he'll fall asleep on the floor and then I'll wake up at three in the morning. What I would do sometimes

I'll just go right back to sleep. Is I have a really really thick. But oh, this is terrible. I can't even believe I'm going to tell you the story. Let me think if I should. Okay, do tell it. So. I have a really thick throw that I keep by my couch. And the other night I came back from the gym, I was stretching. I was watching something on Netflix sometime, you know, document documentary. I fell asleep. I woke up, and I was so tired.

I didn't want to mess up my bed, so I just threw the throw on the couch and laid on that and woke up in the morning. Okay, I told you. I did brush my teeth though. Okay, Oh this is so easy. Oh my gosh. She parks herself on the chase part of her couch. She eats, and she watches ninety Day Fiance and all the different channels and doesn't move. I moved to get up and get yes, yes, but uh but when I'm alone and I have downtime, Oh yeah, I'm watching ninety Day any spinoff of ninety Day, ninety

Day Diaries, ninety Day Single Life. Oh yes, I love the UK Britain, the UK ninety Day Uh huh, I knew it okay, okay, all right, well that's it. Thank you for all right, join to see how much we love each other. Producer Brian's wild Card. We'll be back next week where I shock the I shock our panel with something shocking up with we hate? Are we the panel? We wait and we hate it? Is there another week? I mean we hate some okay? Well, oh boy, obducative vomit and a spider h no, no that's oh

I'm not going to be here. Oh shit, yes I am. Anyway, well, well how do that off the year? Anyways, we'll figure it out. Okay, thank you, Brian, okay, all right, Thank you Amy for being on. Thank you Amy, Congratulations Malan, and thank you for Capital Growth, Inc. And thank you Ja Wurtzler and La Joya Cosmetic, and thank you Ellen and Schedaddle. And thank you to Megan Route for being our sponsors. We really appreciate it. And to Keano come

on in. We're waiting for you. We are waiting for you. You love your podcast. Put a bowl on it, dude, put a bowl on it, a big bow. Love your podcast. Love you, my sweet babies. Bye, No, we can melt

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