Hello, everybody, Welcome to Laura Kane after Dark. I'm so happy you're tuning in on Instagram or on YouTube or anywhere. You're maybe listening to this after the fact, but we're live fetching today. Do I you look great? So my lipstick's not too dark for you today? No, because it goes with thank you, thank you for noticing it. Well, look at this, Look at this? Whoa, Okay, I got to cover it with my hair a little bit, with your magic hair, my magic hair,
I know, I know. Whatever. Anyway, I noticed this is kind of low. But your magic chest with your magic hair, that's right, fake and fake? So what am I elashes and my eyelashes? No, not the older, we get the less real I am. That's okay though, I'm okay with that. There's something well, never mind, okay, we need to pump up the party, which is happening May twenty fourth. It's Brian's two year anniversary party that happens to be on my birthday,
so we're making it double shot. I like how you prased it this time. Thank you. It's at Vahas Resort and Casino and I went there to scope out the scene. I think it was this weekend or maybe last week sometime, and it's outside. The performance is George Michael were born? Yes, we had Robert Bartko. He's the lead singer, the guy that looks just like George and Michael sounds just like George Michael, and we had him on. You may have heard the interview last week, but he's really excited
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me the regular Oh my god. Well, anyway, it's May twenty fourth. Doors open for us it's six, So from six to seven we'll have prizes to give away and some fun things. Jay has already said he has some cash for us to give away, perfect at a casino, right, yes, and so we'll have some prizes and then the doors officially open at
seven for everybody else in the show starts at eight. It's outside Via House the park at VA House, which is kind of an outdoor area, So make sure you bring you jackets if you do come, and it's going to be even if you want to come, just hang out with us before the show. That would be really fun too, and then go gamble with me during the show. We're gonna play some blackjack. Oh. I watched a really good slot machine YouTube video today about how to build up and win the
jackpot on a slot machine. Yeah, the guy actually made a lot of sense. I bet he did, that's why, And so I'm going to try this method next time I go. So anyway, which will be May twenty fourth. Who has the Lucas slots in town. They all claimed that just sounds I think that's We also have Michael Brown coming up on the show with San Diego Ghost Tours excited. We did a little field trip with him
the other night to Pioneer Park and boy was it cool. Cool. Yeah, there, we have a video to show you, we have pictures to show you, so we'll be talking to him. He's had some new encounters since we I think he was on with this like a year and a half ago, or we were down at the Cosmopolitan doing a live show. We also, oh, I have something to give you before we play Capital Growth Inc. Jay Wartzler's Okay, it's from Jay for me. Yes, it's for you. Oh my god, I'm so excited. He went to Europe.
Yes, and so this is what he brought you. And then we'll play a commercial. It's from the original hard Rock. I guess the original one is in London. It is really cool, Jay, Thank you. I know, I didn't know the original hard Rock is in London. That makes no sense, but yeah, I know, but yeah, it's really cool. Thank you. Jay. I will wear it on my next show. Yeah, wear it on Thursday, our next show. When we get our presents. Oh, yes, Oh my god, Thursday show is going
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shredder. So it's perfect. Mine just died, so I'm going to bring a bunch of stuff. Laura would accidentally shred her worth certificate though I know. I ask me where my birth certificate is? Ask me where my Social Security card is? I have no idea. You don't know, no I have You have no idea. I have no clue. I have them because I shredded them last year. So how do you have them? Well? I don't evenore I did see it. Do you know I'm wrong with you?
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love everything about La Joya cosmetic surgery center. Go to glamfam dot com. Okay, we got on this topic of shredding. Okay, birth certificates, social Security cards. We're asking you shouldn't do, by the way, which you shouldn't do, but you should know where they are. And I'm telling them I don't know. I've never I haven't seen my Social Security card in like twenty five years. My birth certificate. I have no idea my kid's birth certificates. I don't know. I don't even know. I lost my
dad's. I had a little bag of his ashes. I don't know where it is. He died twenty five years ago. Don't nowhere. Luckily, my mom still has some, so at least I can grab some of maybe me ring out of it. Go restock your right I lost. Now get this my friend in nineteen eighty nine, I think went to Germany. Is this your best friend, Stacy? Yes, Stacy, see how I remember that? I know? Oh? Stacy's mom, though, has got it
going on. Oh, by the way, speaking of best friend's happy birthday, Marla, Oh, Marla, that's right, happy birthday, Yes, yay, right after Mother's Day, Mother's Day, then her birthday? How cool? Okay day by the way, Oh, thank you, thank you. I went to your mom and sistry yesterday. You did you talk to them, meet them? That's so nice of you. And you texted me too, I did. She brought back for me a piece of the Berlin Wall. Oh no, ask me where that is? Right now? That's
okay. You got rid of us, you lost a symbol of fascism. So I guess that's okay. But that's like, that's like something that would have been cool to say, I have a piece of the Berlin Wall. I mean, shea, it's gone. It's probably under your bed. All my kid's teeth gone. That's fine. I don't know where mine are my kids. I mean, some people make necklaces out of them house. Yeah,
that would be the creepy. If you ever ever I want to make a piece of Jewlryetta, that's what Cannibal after they oh like one hundred people. That's true, Recklas. If you ever came to this set with a necklace. I would get up and leave. Okay, you have he is a thing with teeth, a thing I would just leave on principle. Really it was rose. Well, don't worry about it because I don't know where they are. Okay, okay, So, oh, we have to open
something from Leo. Remember Leo who was on the show. He's a Debbie Gibson mega fan. Yes, and he was the Debheads right yes, okay, so he sent us something and he wants us to open on the show. He was a guest host a couple of weeks ago. I'm so excited. I think that all he said. Don't mind the wrapping. Oh my god. Okay, let's see. Happy twenty seventh birthday, Laura. See oh that's only like fifty years off. Dear Laura Kane, wishing you the
best Mother's Day ever. I loved being on the podcast. You, Eric and producer Brian are the funniest people alive. Here is a gift as a token of my sincere appreciation. God made Mother's Day with your birthday month because you rule. Ah love your podcast, Love Leo Leo, you have very nice writing, so sweet. Okay, So what did we get? What did we get? I can use paper towels later show Wow. Oh to Eric, my god. To Laura assigned Debbie Gibson, Oh wow, I'm
so excited. I love her. I look at her body. It's actually really cool. It's very cool. It says. It just says love, Oh my god, loving good vibes to Laura. Love and good vibes, love XO, Debbie Gibson. That's so cool. Thank you, Leo. Yeah, show that's what's not so glary. To Eric, I just want to have your baby love Debbie Gibson. No, she didn't write that. No, Oh, I just can't shake your love. That's what says. I misread that. That's cute, pretty cool. That is really cool.
Thank you, Leo. Thank you so much. He looks great. She looks amazing. I just want to say, though, to all our potential listeners, please don't send us any other autograph things because you and I am the person that's collecting around here on the ship. Well, you're gonna get something else on Thursday, apparents. I know. Well, my brain's melting. I know, Okay. I have a gift for you, though, Eric. It was actually I got this for Javier, I mean Antonio because
sometimes he's a jerk, right, So I got him this. I got him this hat. Wait, are you talking about me being a jerky? No? No, no, I'm trying to explain something. Okay. So he comes to me today and he goes, hey, I saw something on Facebook that that is a gay thing. That this hat is like there's a whole like series of hats and it's like that it's a gay it's in a gay language. It's a gay language, Like, what do you have a language that I'm I got him this hat that says cock. I love it.
Here it's yours now. I think everyone knows the gay language when you say when you say that word, sometimes you're saying that a guy's a right, like you're such a really well anyway, I knew you'd love it. Thank you. I'm gonna wear that and my T shirt on Thursday. Yes, your caughtcat. I can just imagine Laura's the last person walking around calling people cocks when she doesn't like that. Well, no, I don't. I don't normally say that because it's rude, but I say it. I
said it to him because he's sometimes it's a jerk. It doesn't mean. Are you sure he used it the proper VENASKI. He says that he saw a video where some guy was explaining that there's one hat that's a donkey that means that you have a big one, and there's that hat like cock that means like you take it or something. I don't know you saw something like what manual is he reading? No, that's what I said. I'm like, I don't know. That's eric. I don't think you'll know. That's
stuff beyond me. But the fact that you thought it just meant jerk is with no other connotations is so interesting. Is it innocent? No? Well, yes it is, because I don't I didn't think sexually about that. You know the other meaning the double entendre of that word, right a penis? Yes, I knew you two are filthy? Stop? All right? Is it really? Did you? Guys? Before we have Michael Brown on, did you guys hear about that woman who was found living in a grocery
store? No, but that sounds amazing. Yes, okay, Michael, Okay, she was living in the sign of a grocery store. I have the story right here in Michigan, thirty four year old woman she had a job, she had a car, she'd been living there for a year, she had a desk, flooring, and even a houseplant. Good for her. And that reminded me of the movie I See you, oh about frogging. You know what frogging is? Oh? Yeah, we recommended that. I forgot about that. Yeah, that was a good movie. That was
a great movie. But that's exactly what she is. She's a frog, right, people actually do this where they and that's the movie Parasite. Remember the movie Parasite. They were kind of frog in it. I don't remember that movie. It's been so long. It's a good movie. It's disturbing, but it's so good. But anyway, that's what I got. If you don't and all, do you want to do a quick show biz before we bring on? Yeah? I know. This is so incredibly sad.
Sam Rubin passed away, I know, and like I think three people died this week or something. David uh David Samborne that there was also the guy Core I forget his name, but he did all the or was Ruben the guy that did all the B movies? No, Ruben was the TV show host, right, he was the entertainment reporter, the Yeah, there was like the guy who was like king of B movies who did all like those crappy like not Sharknado, but Sharknado's style where it's like killer Puranas and like
any like cheap movie you've seen on the end of a blockbuster. Oh, he was the director of them. He just died. Oh you mean, I know who you're talking about. Name David Samborne. It was the saxophone player. He died at seventy eight from cancer. But yeah, Sam Rubin allegedly I heard he had a massive heart attack. Was that what it was? He apparently wasn't feeling good the day before. He was feeling like kind of sick to his stomach, this is what somebody told me, and that
he was like feeling tired. So he had somebody come in and fill in for him, and then never came back. Never came back. And now I'm thinking to myself, that was just like you just weren't feeling good that day. I mean, you're gonna have a heart attack. Like that's so scary, could happen to anyone. Apparently he is one of those people that
was a yo yo dieter. He'd be big and then skinny and then big and then skinny, and so I'm like, I wonder if he was, you know, I don't know if he was taking to zempic or anything. I don't know. I don't remember what he looked like. I haven't seen him on TV in a while. So I'm just really sad because he's very well loved and all the celebrities loved him so much, so much, an outpouring of love so to his family and to his kids. I know he has a sixteen year old son. I'm just really saying. He gave a
really nice tribute to him too. Roger kormanz the Drift eight years old, ninety eight. That's a good long life, have great movies. He did never seen really that you've never seen? Okay, so why don't we play the video? Oh man, Well, we bring up our guest Michael Brown. So good, and this is what we did. I think it was Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Yeah, Pioneer Park in Mission Hills, and this is why we went coming down the street. He said, I'm with
Michael Brown, San Diego ghost Hunters. Now we're at Pioneer Park. What's up with this park? For a lot of park cemeteries that are haunted. This one I just found has a lot of consistent activity. Bodies are there.
When was the last body buried nineteen sixty. That's long ago. It's give me years to find certain places in this park where the spirits are hovered above, hovering above where they're buried, and we can use the k two meters and we can ask them to make the lights flash, stop flashing things like that. You really like to interact with people. There's about thirty five hundred people. It's kind of creepy there, and actually you're working work and
I working it. So the cemetery lasted eighteen seventy until nineteen seventy. Last person was buried here was a lady in nineteen sixty. So this was the cemetery for the Church of the Amacla Conception in Old Town. They didn't want it, didn't want to take care of it anymore, so they give it to the city, said it was abandoned, so the city took the property. The city did not want another cemetery, so they removed the headstones, left the bodies, turned it into a park. The void of the body
caused that depression. So whoever parks right here, parked on a whoever gets the park here? Park right on a body? Is it? Oh weird, Karen? Are you freaking? Oh? I love it? Or take a couple of steps towards me. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and then back up a couple of steps. You want to take a couple of steps forward? Oh oh yeah. But when you come here during the day,
you can look for the little dips in the ground. If we're gonna use the meter for this young lady that's buried right below us here with a closer, No, watch your meters. Don't take your eyes off the meters. I'm looking for the lady in this area. Please? Can you make the lights flash for us? What's up? What's up? Light? Whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, this one's really active? Whoa really really flashing the orange? Can you go another one? Fo? Yeah?
Do you have a fourth light going? You got the fifth one too? Whoa hey? Hey, black The shadow people that move around are blacker than black, so you can see them moving around on that back wall, going back and forth. Oh yeah, I heard that, heard that. Yeah, there you go, thank you, thank you, thank you. Hi. Hi, you have to come, you have to come in a little bit closer because if you go too far away, their energy can't go too far. Oh wow, hey, hi, Hi nice crazy, Hi so
nice this Eric love your iPhone will do a good timed exposure. M Oh my god, Laura, Okay, I should have done that. But your video, because you never know we're gonna catch you know. So on the show we have mister Michael Brown, San Diego Ghost Tours. Hello Michael. So we just played the video of what we went through what we went through on Tuesday night. About Pioneer Park. Now, do you consider you've been all over the country, I assumed kind of like looking at different haunted spots.
Is that park one of the most active, like public places you've ever been to? Or I would say that it is. Gettysburg is also a very interesting place. But as far as a cemetery that has been transitioned into a park, yeah, that is the number one. Now what now, the people that have relatives buried at Pioneer Park, did they have to like get an okay from the city, like Okay, you can just leave their
body there and we're just gonna move their headstone. No, the last person that was buried there was in nineteen sixty I believe, if memory serves me correctly, that the city, if someone was going to be buried there in the cemetery pretty soon, that the city would give them a spot at Mount Hope Cemetery. Okay, and that's where they move a lot of the headstones too, also. And then the headstones that we saw in the video, those are now kind of like a memorial. Yeah, they put those in.
They put the last of the headstones as a memorial. And an interesting fact is, have you ever been to Mount Hope Cemetery. No, So the trolley runs through there. They put another trolley line in there. And then when they were digging into the side of the hill to widen to put another row of tracks, they found a bunch of the headstones that they kind of stored there that they totally forgot about it because the grass had grown over them. So they found where a bunch of the uh first batches of stones
were placed. Oh my god, not bodies, just stones, just as stones. Yeah. But whoa. Okay, So please explain to our viewers about the meters that we were using. So the meters that we use are the brand is called K two K two Enterprises dot Com. I have found them to be the best meter for finding things that are pair normal, so they're made to pick up a legromagnetic field or frequencies that like electricity gives off
and a magnet gives off. But the K two meter also finds things that are totally unexplainable, like when the spirits touch them and things like that. That's why they use them on a lot of the ghost hunting shows because they are really a very unique and wonderful tool in the world of ghost hunting.
It was really cool because we would walk around it and have the green light on the one at the very bottom, and then we'd walk over a certain spot and then all three of ours would go like all the way to the red like And so that's just the you believe or those are spirits playing around with us or trying to speak to us or communicate with us. So I
think that there are there are spirits that hover above where they're buried. There are some spirits that are trapped in buildings, and some spirits that travel around. How one becomes their other, I don't know, but it's taking me years to find where those four spirits are that we went to m H and the guy that throws the rocks. It is taking me years to find insane. It's taken me years to find the spirits that like to interact with us
using the meter. Because when you go ghost and you take a lot of equipment and find what the spirits can manipulate and pioneer part. They really love to manipulate the K two meter. And it's such a giant park that that must have taken years to like just slowly go through every inch of the grass. But there are also divots in the grass, insane, where the bodies I guess just start to get they start to sink. I mean, well, the body decays and then the ground on top of it weighs and sinks
down. And you got that little divid or that little void on the top of the ground where the body the body is taken up. Y oh my gosh. Okay, So what is like Gettysburg? Like Gettysburg is an interesting place. When I go, I stay at the Double Day in the Double Day in. Oh, I'm having a brained the Double Tree. No, I think it's called the Double day In. It's a it's a house that's a that's been turned into a bed and breakfast. Uh. It is one
of the closest lodgings to the battlefield. I don't know if I should incriminate myself and tell things that I've done. Sure, okay, you're not supposed to go in there after dark. But the the place that I was that I stay at. Uh, if you go into the street right in front of the place, you're in the state park, so you have to be
in the parking lot. But sometimes, you know, you accidentally take a step too far, and anyways, you can see you know, spirits hanging out or ghosts hanging out in the in the battleground at Gettysburg, you can literally just like look and see spirits. You know. A lot of times it's a matter of being at the right place at the right time, looking in the right direction, or it's a numbers game and it takes a long
time to find these things. How many times have you been there? I've been there one time and you didn't manage to see I did see one one guy off into the into the field. Yeah, oh my god, did you bring your stuff with you? I did? And did did they manipulate that or you? Just? The only thing that I could say that I really got was cool at Gettysburg was when I was done walking around with the
digital recorder trying to catch EVPs, you know, electronic voice phenomenon. I put the recorder in the trunk of the car because I still had time on it, went to bed, and then playing it back, you can hear what sounds like gunshots. Whoa that? So that that is quite and that is quite something that I can't explain. So that was incredible. So you sent me a photo that we're going to show you right now if Brian, we can get up that photo and tell us where this was and how you
took it. And oh, that's me, that's you. Yeah, that's not a ghost, that's me. O my god. I was like, did you see that? I was looking. I was like, this still is kind of like a long exposure, Like, yeah, that's what it is. I didn't I did it purposefully. But the other one, oh, the other one. That's that's mister Seely, the ghost of mister Ceely at the Cosmopolitan Hotel. Oh that is it? Okay crazy? That is like a full blown man right there. Oh yeah, he and his wife
are seen walking around at night in the building. Like we said when we I think we called you my friend. Yes, I called you my friend, and I or my two friends and I we poked our head into the cobs of Politan Hotel down at the bar area and the restaurant area. It was totally closed. All the doors were locked. There was nobody on that little deck that porch at all. And when we rattled the door to the bar area, somebody said, come on in and sit down. I'm like,
Jody Goes, did you hear that. I'm like, yes, Kim, did you hear that? Yes? Where did that come from? It came from inside and there was nobody in there. So was that a ghost? I don't think it was necessarily a ghost, like we're talking about something you can see, but it was the voice of a spirit talking to you from inside the building. Yes, and that things happen in that building every day, like what guests leave the hotel in the middle of the night because
you see ghosts walking around in their rooms. That's common. You can a sound phenomenon upstairs, you know, hearing people walk around. My first experience was during the summer of two thousand and five. I was staying outside in the corner of the property talking to security guard and this is when the building was closed and we could hear someone walking on the second story, verandah, And then we went around the back heard it again walking, and then the
security opened the gate and we went inside. And that was my first experience, was the sound phenomenon of someone walking around upstairs on that second story. Oh my god. And then what else have you seen at the Cosmopolitan besides that gentleman that was very visible in that picture? How much time do you have? Really? Oh my gosh, it's crazy on your tours se do
people see things? So on the tour I leave a like when we did the the podcast there, I left the door open because sometimes people hear things, see things, or feel things and it freaks them out and they have to run out of the building that open. Yeah, because things happen all the time. And I first when I first started to bring people in the building, sometimes people would have episodes, things would happen and they would try to run through the door. So that's why I always leave a door open
so people can can get Wow, you can get out of things. We need to spend the night there, I know. So if you go on the internet you read that people say this is the most haunted room or that is the most haunted room. I've been there for eighteen years. All of the rooms are haunted. The spirits travel upstairs, downstairs in the courtyard on the second story. They're all over, So it doesn't matter what room you take. Oh whoa, What about the Whaley House? What is your Have
you ever had an experience seeing a spirit there? The Waley House is where I saw my first ghost in October of nineteen ninety nine. The first ghost that I saw was Violet Whaley. Really yeah, And what does she look like? I mean, was she transparent? Was she like? So I saw a program they were talking about America's most haunted houses. When the show was over, it was the only one that was on the on that episode that was in the area. So I went down there with my then girlfriend
and I was doing wedding photography with her. So I had a good camera, so hey, let's go take some pictures. So he went down and were taking a bunch of pictures and I we're ready to leave, and I lifted the camera up and there was a lady on the other side of the doorway in the front door. She was looking right over my shoulder. Same heights as me and I didn't take the picture, brought the camera down, and then I looked back and she was at the end of the hall,
gliding left back where the stairs are. I can only see from the waist up. So it happened very quickly. But I went back the next day. Inside the building, you paid your five dollars and you could walk around in the house. And they had a lot of family photos on the walls at that time. And I asked the guy who that lady was, and he told me that was why, And then that's the lady I saw the night before, and then found out more about how she died in the home.
We spent the night there when I was with the Jeff and Er show. My Randy and I got we got to spend the night overnight in the Wayley House in the parlor. The parlor, so we were sleeping on the floor, okay, on the floor, and we were one of the docents there, and uh, my head was kind of pointed toward where the courthouse is, you know, a little courtroom area. You were in the first room or in the second, the first room where that couches and the then
the the court room is like yes, that way. Anyway, I was like kind of getting creeped out, right, So I said, Randy, can I like scoop closer to you? And He's like, no, I have a girlfriend. I was like, wait a minute, this is not anything like that. I'm just scared. So I got up to move like on the other side of him, and something pulled my leg back shut. I swear to God, and I was like what And so it was like two o'clock in the morning. I'm like, peace out and I went home.
I was so scared because I mean, so doing it. But you want to do you want to spend the night at the college? Fine, I didn't know that that is still available. Yeah, the hotel is available. Yeah, there's ten rooms. They're all old timey eighteen hundred furniture in the rooms. Okay, and you get your complimentary breakfast in the morning. Oh my god, I have family vacation family. Do you really you would want your own? What if like a ghost was just like in the bed
next year? What I'm looking for? That's ideal. So, Michael, if you look over your shoulder, I saw Okay. So Brian one day brings in the weedy board one night this is for our Halloween episodes. It was for our Halloween episode. Yes, so we had the full like we had candles. He had candles, he had We were all dressed up and everything, and so, long story short, we conjured up a spirit. We think her name was Hazel. She spelled out Hazel in this character.
I mean Hester Hester Hester sorry Hester here. Yes, Okay, it was not a great reading. It wasn't a great reading. I think we got nothing. However, is she still here? Flash forward like two weeks later or I don't know how long I was. Really I woke up like two o'clock in the morning. I was hungry. My room's upstairs, so I came downstairs. A minute. I'm going to tell you where she hangs out. Why perfect do you know? Why do you know this? Why do
you know this? Because when I was sitting over there, So I'm going to tell you where she hangs out. Let me just say this. God, I'm gonna go set in my car. This is awesome. Now, it's not that you know, this is where I saw her, So it's not like this is where she is all the time. But she hangs out over there. Oh my god, she was between the my couch used to be right there. She was between the patty of doors and the couch,
just standing there. See, I want to tell you this first, so you don't tell me, and then I say, oh, yeah, that's where it was, So that is insane. I don't think her name is Hester, though I think she's probably got a different name. Plus I've never heard the name Hester. And also we were like, there's a name that's an old timey name. Yeah, but like we it was the process of
you, guys, getting Hester was a stretch. It wasn't there like a Hester print or something that was an old in a famous book or something. Yes, Now, do you consider yourself as sensitive? Then we all are, okay because they make fun of me when I say that I'm a sensitive because I thinks, okay, that's okay, because I feel like I can walk into a home or walk into a building and go, there's something not right here. We're all psychic and sensitive differently. Once you figure out how
you are psychic or sensitive, you could become better at it. Okay, So what are you the best at? For me, it's easier to see them. So did you see you saw something here when you came in or did you just sense it her? I could sense that there was something over there, and it's it's darkness. It's dark. She was dark. She was dark. It was a dark figure. It wasn't I don't know if she's here right now. I'm not focusing on that because I'm yeah, yeah,
it's she's dark. This is my favorite corner. Now I know, I'm going to do the rest of the podcast in my car, so scary, have a good time. No, it's Brian's freaking fault for bringing in that. Dang we and look it's right there. I always thought that this place was ghost free because I lived in a home that was all sorts are wrong, like bad ghosts, like polter Guy is like evil entity type of thing. Yeah, have you ever encountered that everything I found is Cowsper the
friendly ghosts? I could not say that I personally found anything bad or negative virgamonic, no evil entities or anything. Thing I found I would say is is Casper the friendly ghost. Have you ever caught anything any voices on your your recorder? Oh? Yeah, what what do they? What are things? Do they say? They say all sorts of things, you know, words leave, they say their name that you that you can just hear like you're like you're eaves dropping on a conversation. You can hear people say words
that you really can't make out. You know where the jail is up in Julian? Yeah, oh yeah, that's a cute little thing. Yeah that's haunted. That's haunted. That's bad. Yeah. Bad. The next time you go there, if you take your recorder on your your phone, hopefully the door the one door's open. Uh, ask a question and then put your phone in and wait twenty seconds, and then ask another question, wait twenty seconds, and then play it back later and see what you hear.
Oh wow, Okay, where's the jail? Is it next to the that cemetery? That's right, No, it's on the other end. On the other cemetery is cool. Look and it's a creepy cemetery, very much so, very other end. Okay. So that is a haunted spot, the Julian jail. So that's like a touristy thing that you want that's somewhere close. You know, people live here in San Diego, they've they've been there.
I'm sure they've seen it. So when we go on San diegost tour, you do a walking tour, which I like because you get to really sit and experience rather than sit in a vehicle and drive by. So like, where do you Where are the spots that you take us? So there are ten stops. So we walk stop and I tell some things that have happened to me while ghost heating. We start inside the h You know this camera makes me look fat. No, I was just thinking the same thing.
I was like, Wow, I look at yourself. You're supposed to look at the camp. That's the camera. You're supposed to be learning at that. Yeah, but no, you're not. You're anything but fat, Kelly. It makes me look fat. Camera adds ten pounds everybody. So we start at the state Park. I do a quick little intro about me ghost hunting and so on and so forth, and then we just walk and
I tell some things that have happened to me. We talked a little bit about history of old Town and the fire that happened in eighteen seventy two that kind of was the downfall of the old Town area. Then we get to Whaley House to talk about my first ghost, go to the cemetery, and then we go back to the Whaley House and I area Whaleyhouse area, and I show you where the vortex. Oh yeah, in the street, yes,
yeah, where the unexplainable pockets of energy are. And once I show you where they are and show you the technique to be able to feel them, you can find them anytime you want because they're always there. That was That was cool. And then how you said that there were uh bodies that went out into the street, right, Well, that's at the cemetery. So yeah, so the cemetery is its original size. So they put the trolley. They brought the trolley from downtown to Old Town. That's why the
street is curved like that for the railroad tracks to bend. So they just moved the wall up and then asphalted and sment it over the people in front. Okay, so and there's little the little markers at SAE. Yeah, little markers. Yes, I remember that, and I remember feeling the vortex. But tell us, how are people that are watching this or listening, how do you find a vortex? And oh well the vortex. Finding the vortex in Old Town was a matter of happening to turn a meter on the
meter going crazy. The first time I got this meter, the meter was going crazy. And it took me a long time to figure it out. So now on all my tours, when I turn the meter on, if you walk like the spokes of a wheel, you can pick any place as the middle, and you walk into the meter stops, walk into the meter stops, walk into the meter stops, and you can find this vortex that's
slowly moving south. And what is a vortex unexplainable pockets of energy. So a lot of times when I talk about the vortex, I reference Sodona, Arizona, because so many people have been in the Sedona. They're famous for their their five vortexes. And the vortex is there in Sedona? Are the different are different than the one in Old Town? Also the different one in what's the mystery spot San Jose, Santa Cruz. Now it sound as far as Oakland. The mystery spot in San I can't remember, but people are
saying it. I can. I can hear the people at home saying it is it. It's in California. Yeah, it's up the coast. There's a different type of war Texas, Okay, And so some are paranormal, some are all all unexplainable. Yeah, because I went to Sedona on my own. One time I went on a vacation by myself and I tried to find a vortex. I couldn't figure out what I was doing. So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you the secret finding the vortex's and Sedona. Uh,
the internet. Look on the internet, okay, And when you go to the hotel, ask them for the throwaway map. They'll give you a map that shows where the vortexes are. Well, here's a throwaway. Well, it's just something you can throw away when you're done. Oh okay, I catch on quick, Catch on quick. The closest vortex or the easiest one to get to is the airport vortex. There's limited parking that some of the other ones you have to hike to. But and you're supposed to feel like
more energized and stuff. I didn't feel anything because you didn't Okay, I didn't feel anything. The meters didn't pick anything up. Again, different different type, which is say, different different type of different type of vortexes. But there are there are a lot of people that that do experience the the the energy and sensation of the vortexes and Sedona. Yes, what is your most recent experience aside from seeing hester in the corner over there. What is
your most recent experience ghostly? So at the Cosmo. I also offer a ghost hunt where we use more of the equipment like they do on the ghost sending shows on television, and I did one last night, and the we find something every time. Not only do the spirits like to talk to us using the equipment, but we use the connect stick figure camera and the spirits come out, and then I show people how to put their hand in it.
Not only can you see it on the screen, the spirit standing there, but when you put your hand in it, you can not only feel it, but you can see the spirit moving which you put when you put your hand in it. Whoa okay for the cat? Oh yeah, the ghost cat. Yes? Did we find the cat last time? Yes? So many things happened, it's hard to remember. Oh my god, that was insane. Yeah, there's a picture of the ghost cat too. You had a picture of the ghost cat. I think I remember sticking my hand
out. You could feel it walk right, It was insane. Oh my gosh. Okay, So this when you take all your equipment and stuff, it's a whole it's a different than the walking tour. Yes, because we spend ninety percent of our time just inside the building. And how many people do you take on that tour? Just a few? Just a few? Okay, you have a big anniversary right now, twenty five years. Oh wow, I know anniversary. And so you have a special bye two get
too free on any of my tours. Just call me mention the Uh there you go. Just mention the bye two Get too, and I'll set you up for either tour you like to go on, the walking tour or the ghost hunt there inside the Cosmo where we use more of the equipment, Oh my gosh. Or would you take anybody back to Pioneer Park if they wanted to go there? That was pretty cool. I know you said it,
it was cool for me. I don't know. I've taken people up to Parana Park after the tour if they if someone was really into it and wanted to see, yeah, I mean the only reason I do the tour is to share with people what I found. So if someone's really into it, yeah, I'll drive up there and show you. What is there some place like aside from San Diego that you've always wanted to go, and somewhere that you plan on maybe going that's haunted that I want to go. Yes,
oh yeah, I like to go to England, like the Castlecotland. Oh yeah, some of the castles. Yeah, oh, I bet there's some good ones in England. There's the rams In. I want to go to the Rim. That one's pretty gnarly iOS kind of evil too. Oh not the rams In. Yeah, the bar pub, the rams In, it's a pub, Darling. That was really bad. Stop, I can start doing that right now. Well, gosh, Michael, thank you so much for joining us again. My pleasure, my pleasure. This. He is
such a good tour guide. You do such a good bar. You really know your stuff, and you've been doing it a long time now, and it's so cool that you see things every single time you go out. You must just love your job. Maybe otherwise I wouldn't do it exactly, So you do. You have a website Senego ghost Tours dot com www dot Senego ghost Tours dot com. And he's a very fit man, despite him pulling on his shirt, despite the word the camera looks. You don't look you
don't look big. You look amazing, all right. So when we log out, we say something, do you remember you know I'll say it, yes your yes, yes, Okay, So here we go. Come back on Thursday. Eric has apparently the greatest birthday guess that's ever I've ever received, apparently, and then something huge for producer Brian first two year anniversary huge, Oh my god, and he's going to be presenting it them to us
on Thursday's episode, so don't miss that. And with that, I like to say, love your podcast, Love your podcast, Love your podcast, and thank you Leo, thank you, Debbie Gibson, thank you, Michael, thank you, thank you, and I love you my sweet babies. Bye. Thank you guys for watching