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really did something. Somebody I forgot to introduce producer Brian. Oh gosh, Brian, Hi, No thanks, no too late? Are you still sick? You sound a little I don't think so. Oh maybe are you in a bad Are you in a good mood or a bad mood? You're just in your You're in your Brian mood. You're in a Brian mood. What you had? Did you have a big weekend? Mm? Yeah, I'll talk about that a little bit. Okay, cool, okay? Cool?
Oh boy? All right, So we're going to start off. Eric's going to start off the host chat because he has something pretty personal that he wants to share with you. And I can't even imagine how this must feel. And please. So I found out on Saturday. I have one brother from my one biological brother, and I found out Friday that he had passed away. And I found out via a family member that lives in another country.
Because you were estranged, we were we were very close growing up. We were very close all through our adulthood, and then when my mom got sick is when things kind of went south. And I had always hope for a reconciliation, and it just didn't happen. And so when I found out that my brother was sick, I also found out through someone else. So I did my best two reach out and it you did, it didn't happen. You reached out, he reached back. It was pretty It wasn't real deep
or anything at all. It was very surface kind of You said I love you to him. Yeah, we said it to each other. And so lots of stuff has just been kind of flooding through the last couple of days. Are you all right? Yeah, Yeah, I'm okay. You know, I made my peace with it, and that's all you can do in a situation like that. Now you were telling me how strange it feels. It it does because everybody in my family is gone. Now you are the
last one standing and the last one standing. Yeah, mother, your father, and now your brother, and my mom's only sister is gone, and your grandparents parents are gone. Eric. Yeah, so it's very weird. So, like the last seventy two hours, I've just been very I've gotten in my head a lot about like should I And with the exception of my grandparents and my father, nobody has died of cancer we we didn't, it didn't run in our family. So now the last three people have all died
of different forms of cancer. So it's one of those things where I'm like, well, is that what I'm gonna, you know, go from. So I'm just you know, uh, just keeping positive about it. I'm just like, you know, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. There's nothing you can do about it. So but I do have a doctor's appointment on the first Oh good because they can detect that yr so but detectif you markers or whatever. Yeah. So yeah, that just kind
of freaked me out. And so but yeah, I'm going to attend the funeral. I feel like it's the right thing to do for me and just kind of to honor my family because I was very close with my parents and my aunt and my brother. Until it's the right thing to do. Yeah, And I thought it's going to be really hard, it's going to be very weird. I don't know, you know, there's kids involved. Yeah, and I have not seen them since two years. No, it's been
a little over five. Oh oh wow. Yeah, because I haven't seen them since my mom was diagnosed. Okay, so, uh, it's going to be very weird. Have you seen I wanted to ask you if you have seen any signs from my brother, from any from any your dad, your mom, your well maybe not your brother quite yet, but my mom. Yes, what have you said? Dragonflies? Okay? Because I so believe that they are still here with us. We might. We just don't
have the senses. We don't have the ability to see beyond right. But I mean, after you tell the story about the dragonflies, I have a story to tell you that's crazy too. I have two crazy stories that is like for me proof that there is after life. Well, I think I've talked about it on the show before. My dad when I was growing up, he was we there wasn't cell phones like I'm old. So there no computers, right, there was no computers in nothing. There was no cellon
There are bicycles and skateboards and we'd go up and down the street. We wouldn't come home till five and then we have dinner. We had a black and white TV and you had to get up to turn the cable the three channels that was on. So my dad was the phone that we had, the rotary phone that we had on the wall that I had stretched the cord out so far because I would go out on the patio and talk to my
girlfriends out there. I'm sure. Yeah, my dad would be like, get off the content, oh my, and the phone the cord was so stretched out. So when he died, I had and he died about oh gosh. In I think it's been fifteen or sixteen years. The day he died. That night, I had come home from the hospital and my phone rang. I had a landline, and I picked it up and it was just static, Hello, Hello, hung up. It happened again, and so then I didn't think anything about it. And then my mom called and
said did you call me? And I said no, and she's like, well, that's weird. The phone rang, and when I picked it up, it was just static at the exact same time that had happened to me. Wow, So it was really weird. I was like, well, that was probably because my mom and I were both guilty of always talking on the phone. And is that where you get it? Oh? Yeah, there was no call. Phone talker. Eric is a phone talker. I'm so not a phone talker, but yeah, and I always trying to get
help the fire. I know. She's always like, oh, I just dropped my napkin. I'm yeah. I always try to go, oh, I got to do a traffic report. I'm sure you do. It's true. You're probably sitting there paying your dails. You're just like, oh, I want to do this traffic report. Yeah. Yeah. But then my mom was dragonflies and and okay, So my mom heard that you are to
ask those that have passed to show you a sign and a color. So her brother, my uncle, passed away many many years ago, and about six months after, my mom was thinking about him her brother and said, Pat, I would love to know that you're okay, and I'd love to see show me something in the color yellow. The next day, she worked upstairs. There was like two story building and the windows were open, there were no screens, and she was a bookkeeper. One day in flies through
the window a canary and landed on her head. Canaries are yellow house. Okay, so that's crazy. And then okay, so recently, okay, my dad passed away twenty five years ago and he was sixty years old. He was too young to die. And my best friend Stacy and her parents and my parents, we all grow up grew up together. So my parents were friends with her parents, but my dad and her dad weren't like super close. Okay, so that's the backstory. So her dad recently passed.
When they went in to clean his house, everything was neat, everything was like he was OCD kind of, and he didn't know he was going to die in the hospital. He didn't know that he was not that ill, but he got ill in the hospital. The only three things he had on his desk were two bills and my dad's funeral card. Like, my dad died twenty five years ago, why didn't he didn't have his wife's or his sisters or his mother's. He had my dad's. That's it. Three things,
isn't that bizarre? And then one more thing and then because I and then we'll get back to, you know, talking about your brother. But when I before I went to rehab, I was a fifty one fifty you know what that is, and so you have to be three days in a mental facility. So I was hysterical. It was it's a very long story, but it was really hard. I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know where my kids were. Nobody was talking to me. It
was like crazy. I was crying, crying, crying. So that night I went to sleep in the blue plastic beds that they have in the mental hospital, and I fell asleep. Then I heard a knock on the door of my room. I opened the door and my dad is standing there. Clear, this is so vivid to me. I can't the colors. What he was wearing is like the outfit, like a sweatshirt with a stripe on
it, and his jeans, and he looked super healthy. And I remember looking at him and thinking he must I'm looking both scared and surprised and happy at the same time. I wonder what that looks like. And then I went to hug him, and I could feel his shoulder bones and I could I went on my tiptoes. I had to go on my tiptoes to hug
him because he was tall. And then he goes, come with me, and he took my hand and we went down the hallway of the hospital and then he goes, look what I can do, and he jumped through the ceiling and then he jumped down through the floor and then he came back up and then he said I gotta go. I said, okay, and then I woke up and I'm like, Okay, that was not a dream. This is my lowest point in my life, aside from losing my father. And there he was. Yeah, so I'm telling you they're with you.
Yeah, my mom the day she died. They had My dad was a landscape archidesc so they their property was beautiful and I just wanted to take a walk around the gardens, and you know, there was it's called nandina and it's a very short form of bamboo, and it's very colorful green, and it's red and it gets these red berries on it, and they had it
along a perimeter of their property in the front yard. And I got the hose and I was just you know, kind of water watering and just kind of in my head, and all of a sudden, out straight out from the Nandina comes and my mom loved like purples and pinks and stuff like that purple dragon like an iridescent purple dragonfly, and it flew around my head and then it flew away, and then a couple I don't know, maybe a month or two later, I was working on a TV show and we were
in way out in the desert and it was a show about equine therapy for people that have been through traumatic experiences. And during my lunch break, I was walking along this little creek that was on the property and two dragonflies and I hadn't seen a dragonfly in I don't remember the last time I've seen a dragon one hundred years, Like, you're not super cool, no, And there they were sitting on a little stone on the creek and I was walking by, and they flew up, flew around my head, and then flew
back down on the rock. And now, every once in a while, like when I've been hiking and stuff like that, every once in a while, you know, I'll just go hi, mom m hmm, yeah, gosh, I know. You just keep your eyes open because I think your brother's going to send you signs to I don't know. Was there a thing growing up? But it's not an anvila like falling on my Oh no, when you go to the other side, all is forgiven and everybody's happy.
That's what I think. Anyway, piano was going to fall out of window, not walking on around eddie ladders or terrible. That's terrible. Okay, Now do you have any double D news before we bring on? I actually do okay, so, oh, let's played double D music so we can sound like we got our stuff together. Oh my gosh, no, you can start the double d's. You don't need to wave to people on Instagram. It's not an intro. It's just backtrack. Oh it is, that's
right. The Coachella Festival has experienced the slowest ticket sales in ten years. Passes are still available for both weekends, which in previous years sell out in minutes. Who cares, well, there's no I mean. The headliners include Lena del Ray, Dojakat, and Tyler the Creator. I have no doubt idea who. Tyler the Creator is actually pretty good headliners. Tyler the Creator. I saw him when I saw Eminem, Beyonce and uh, Tyler the
Creator and it was really great Coachell. Oh really, Oh you were there that year? Uh huh, I wasn't there. I saw video of Eminem's performance and it was pretty it was so I'm a huge Eminem, huge, huge, huge, and the Beyonce it was. Coachell is too packed. I can't. I can't. I'm too old. I'm too old to deal with that many people. It's Michael Tyler anyway, it's fun. It wasn't You can't get anything to drink eat, I mean lines, lines, lines, But anyway, you would never find me. Oh my god, you
would have a panic attack. You would melt, you would. I don't know. I can't do crowds like that, and it's dirty. I don't. I don't houses. No, I do not pooper pee in an outhouse. I will find a bush and risk getting arrested. My no way, you won't be alone, that's the thing. I will not poop into a hole. We're five hundred other people. Please, way were going to happen? Oh that was too much. You have a come on, I don't want She's not gonna come up here now. I know that's the problem.
She's probably glad that she's saitting. God, I know that's why I purposely do that. John Stewart is returning to the Daily Show on Comedy Central, but only on Monday nights. That's cool. I heard the week would be handled by team of correspondence. He wasn't good. Yeah, what excuse me? You're excused? Oh boy, I don't think he was that good. What do you think Trevor Noah is like amazing? No? I think political
commentaries as an entertainment is generally not fun at all. I think that John Stewart was very very clever and witty and funny, and I he was one of those guys that would just poke issues and then anyone came at him and be like, oh, I'm just a comedian. He was just like, yeah, he got kind of tiring. Well, wow, that's okay, only Monday nights. Okay, you can not that you watch that show any night? And I don't think are you guys watching Chris? I tried to
watch that on Netflix. It's with Sophia. I can't. I'm not. I couldn't get into it. She is gonna walk away with every Emmy. I don't think so. I think she's so good. Did you try to watch clips? I think she wants this to be her Emmy Award, but I don't think it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. Well, I'm that's well, you know that's sweet, that's nice. Is that all you have for Double D's No? Oh, okay, did you hear Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are getting engaged? Oh my, that's a room. At least
that's what one celebrity astrologer thinks, and he's an astrologer. Yes, well, Laura, you should take that as fact. Kyle Thomas has been featured on tons of outlets, and he is saying that it's happening. They are so they're so cute, they're gonna have babies, like right away. Oh I care I'm a Swift ye, because I'm kind of like Taylor Swift. I do not know who he is at all. He's an NFL player and they're in the they're in the championship, and yeah, of course the one
year to me, this is the best. This is the best evidence of the NFL is he starts dating Taylor Swift and they're going to the super Bowl. Wait that you think that that's you think that it's rigged. No, but I'm just saying that's the best evidence we'll ever have is the one he just starts day in Taylor Swift and boom, he's going to the super Bowl. So get the most camera time for her. Good luck charm. That's great. It's just he's happy. So he's playing. Well that's not what
he's not like a quarterback. Well, so what anyway? That was cool? I think I understood out of everything that you said was tight end all I understood out of that whole thing. Else Chaer was again denied conservatorship over her son Elijah Allman. Oh, and he has what issues, substance abuse, and she's afraid that he's going to blow through his whole He gets a what do you call it, allowed trust, his huge trust. That's kind of min I mean, that's not a minor issue. That's kind of a
minor issue for a conservatorship. Though, well, I guess there's been a lot of issues, so yeah, I mean, look at Brittany. She should have like a full like public you know, collapse to get the conservatorship. She had shave her head and hit someone with a an umbrella. Yeah. El Kim Kardashian is producing a Liz Taylor doc. So now she's a producer and she's appearing in it too. Oh my gosh, I will probably pass on that. Wait, like Liz Taylor the clothing brand, No,
Elizabeth I was thinking about? Tell me he doesn't know who Elizabeth Taylor is. No, I'm kidding, who is he thinking about? Clothing brand? Gloria Vanderbilt. No, you missed it over the head a little bit. That's mine too. Okay. It's called Elizabeth Taylor Rebels Superstar and it's on the BBC and it's a three part series. Wow. Okay, so she's gonna make more money, more money, more money, more money. Well okay, that is all. Okay, let's play our intro music and bring
her on. Yeah, baby joy maker, wonderful person, always smiling, Come up, Lucinda Kay. She is a reporter at Cogo AM six hundred for iHeartRadio here in San Diego. But not only that, She's been many other things, and she is many other things. And here, Oh, this is what I was gonna do. I was gonna I know the way, hold the way that this is all set up. Oh my god, thea very well. Now I'm going to slide out because I'm going to move this over there so they can see her. You guys love your shoes,
Eric, thank you, thank you. Oh my gosh, I love I pretty much wear some version of sneaker running shoes every day. I have to buy clothes to go with my I buy shoes to go with my so many. I think these are the Puma. It was a a thing that they did with Dunkin Donuts. So I have these shoes in three different styles. See, yeah, there's a little donut on it. Oh my god, those are do you know? Do you honestly like those of them? Really? Them? Okay, so I need to adjust this differently. How's that?
That's good? You know how to work a mic? I know. I just I don't want to miss I don't want to mess up whatever. Brian, Oh no, he fixes it. If it's mess he fixed it. Okay, he fixed it. So thank you so much for joining us. This is my pleasure. I'm so honored. You came into the building and like me, I will sometimes you have to pass through sometimes the news room to get from traffic over to like a radio station in the iHeart building. And there she was with the biggest smile and Hi, I'm Lucinda.
I'm like, oh my god, you want to come out and play on my friends. That girl. I'm still waiting to find my best friend. Oh it? Can we be work best friends? Oh my god, I just I don't have a work best friend. Oh my god. The hallway. Okay, that's awesome. Now when I was you said, you know what that means? What does that mean? You're going to turn my best friend? Yes? Oh, and you know, well, that means guys are gonna make me cry. No, you know what that means, because
he he claims that I'm his best friend, but it's not true. He has Marla has his best friend, his girl. They grew up together. And that's fine. I'm number two and I'm fine with that. But then there's Karen. I thought you were number three. I'm neck and neck with Karen right now. So if Lucinda comes in the picture, she's gonna surpass I think me for sure. And there's possibly Karen's levels. There Eric's angels. Oh god, that is no. There needs to be a one to
two and a three and a four. I'm Charlie and then you in your own set. No, that's not the way to do it. Well, Okay, what intrigued me about your bio that you sent me about your past is that you had a really hard time growing up and that you easily could have turned to drugs, alcohol, a whole different kind of life, but you steered in a different direction. Can you elaborate on that a little bit.
Yeah, I grew up in a lot of love and a lot of chaos, and a lot of my mommy and daddy loved me and built me up, and then a lot of really hard times. My daddy was a heroin addict and my daddy was clean. Our lives were full of creativity and brilliant. Who I haven't talked about, Oh, my daddy for a long time. And when he was clean and sober, then our lives were full of vibrancy and creativity. My daddy was brilliant and he was super talented.
And my mommy is steady and a hard ass worker, and she made our lives happen. Oh are they still with us? My mommy is still with us. Yeah. And my daddy odeed when he was forty eight. Oh my, oh my god. I'm how old were you I was? Let's see, I guess I was twenty three. But before that we were gifted a full year of sobriety as a grown up. You know, we'd had lots of on and off right through my childhood, but as a young adult then I got to have a full year with my daddy clean. You know
Nina's friend. Yeah, that's yeah, it was amazing. How old were you at that point? I think I was twenty three? Oh okay, yeah, so you did you make it like this, did this shit decision to just say, like, I'm not going down that path. I'm going to take a totally different turn here. And what made you go into this profession? Because I know you've been on TV news, you've been a TV anchor, you've been a radio on you're in radio now, But like,
what made you jump into this field? You know, when I when I was a little girl, I have always been full of light and see light in others, and so that it really just afforded me if people always came along my path to help look after me. I have so many mentors in my life, so many people helped me get to where I am today. My mommy and all these amazing I always say, I come from a mighty tribe of women. They each Auntie taught me a different skill and kept me
on the right track, and I really paid attention. I was at somebody who I didn't have to make my own version of the same mistake. I can go make my own mistakes and learn from them, but you know, I didn't have to repeat the cycles. And I learned very early on that I was that I could easily become one of the statistics. I could easily stay in the cycle of poverty and drugs and crime and choose, you know, a dark path to cope, and instead, you know, I rebelled
and went toward the light. However, I have like, I'm just surrounded by people who helped make that happen. Do you want to give any shout out? Oh, my gosh, my mommy. Everybody calls her mama, g mama, g. Where's is probably watching right now? Yeah, she's in Ashlan, Oregon, my hometown. Oh okay, beautiful, Yeah,
she'll be here soon to visit me. My mommy. No matter where I have lived in my career, uh, and I've lived in other countries, My mommy always shows up no matter what or on the timehouse little girl, that woman always shows up amazing. And then all these anties. My aunt Gretchen, she's all about practicality, My Aunt Patty she's all about zen and well, let's figure out the right way to go. And my aunt Loney, she just teaches us how to laugh and laugh and taught me how to
do my nails. And all of them are like in the industry hair and skin and nails. So I got to grow up with all these, you know, really lively, creative women. My aunt Leilani taught me how to paint my nails while I drove a car. You know. When I was I played Coach Nagel, the football coach in high school. He was my first powerlifting and bodybuilding coach. So he taught me how to be strong mentally and physically and showed me what a healthy man looks like. You know what
I mean. I mean, the my list is long, y'all. It's a really long at all times in our life. I believe that we should have people we look after, and we should have people who look after us. So did you That's interesting because did you Growing up? It sounds like you gravitated more towards adults. Yes, yeah, that is true. And I'm a big sister, like through and through, and I have a baby sister, My baby sister, Sarah. She's like, oh, she's just
such a gentle little bean. I'm like sturdy cotton and she's like silky linen. You know, she's all silent my oldness, you know what I mean. And I was a legit big sister probably had to, you know, like I tried to control things, you know, as a big sister does. In those kinds of households that I could save the day and save all the humans, and you know, I had to learn my way through that. Yeah, it's sure. I'm a big sister too, I know what
you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, did you did? Did you do? I preferred to hang out with adults that I did people my own age. I always hung out with people that were older than me. Yeah. Yeah, it's so weird the profession that we're all, I know, kind of in because I never because we we wanted mentors and weird. Yeah, and look at Brian. Brian is twenty three right now. Oh god, you're my mentor. I'm not saying no, that is
not well. I'm just saying that you well, on Monday nights anyway, you hang out with people who are way older than you are, and in my case, way older, and Mike is way older. Oh yeah, I forgot g A birthed him geese. Anyway, you when did you come
up with Lucinda's goodness? Oh, you know that's funny because I've been in the business since nineteen ninety four in TV for a long time, consulted and this is my second radio gigs as a news anchor, and no matter what market I've worked in, they have come to me and said, could you please create a series called And it's always been some version of Lucinda's Goodness,
it just might have had a different name in the various markets. And I do a lot of coaching and I get to write and a lot of people will say, uh, oh, that's Lucinda's Goodness or what's your goodness today? Loose, just like in general conversation. So then when talking with you know are great bosses there, and iHeart and Cogo, Cliff and Mary. They're so amazing. Cliff was like, I did some really sweet, fun story that had a bunch of little kids in it, and he said,
do you know that story you did last week with the little kids? That's what I want from I want a series like that. And I'm like, yeah, that's exact because I already know it's coming, right, That's that's part of my mission and in this in this life is to find light and shine it more brightly and give people a platform to shine brightly. So I
always know it's coming, and so I got excited. I get excited when I'm like, Okay, here it comes and He's like, now, we just got to figure out what to call it, and I'm like, Lucinda's Goodness. He's like, yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Like, I know, now, do you do a report every day? Do you do one every week? Is it weekly? Is it like is it like a time the week we can tune in and hear it. Yeah,
yeah, for sure. So you know, I'm a news anchor, so I do cover all the regular news every day, but my Lucinda's Goodness airs every single day. It's a daily and you can hear it at six twenty five am, eight twenty five am, and then it's on the iHeart radio app and you just have to look up Lucinda's Goodness and they're all right there. Oh fabulous. I hope you've liked them. And they come from around the world. So anyone who has great story ideas for Lucinda's Goodness, you
just have to send me a message. It's it's global. I do stories from I interview people all around the world. You know, what was your last story? Oh gosh, what was my story? Sometimes I forget what I do. I know, maybe maybe one of your favorite Oh I have that's too hard. You know. I really love stories where children are doing
the right thing. I think my goodness this morning was about a high school senior where she is like a four point six y five GPA and she's a star on the basketball court, and she's in the San Diego Police Cadet Academy and she has applied to one hundred and fifty nine colleges and they've all said yes, Oh my gosh, yeah, So that's a beautiful young woman. The a rookie superstar football player from the Rams is paying to send a retired
airman to the Super Bowl. Gosh, girl, Scout cookies are coming up. And last year I interviewed these two little tiny sisters, you know, and they all like they sang their math songs, had at everything up. I just the thing about goodness is that it's supposed to be a moment of respite. It's a chuckle, it's sweet, it's kindness, it's it's nonprofit work, it's it's uh it's not always uh light. Sometimes it's heavy.
You know. Last week I talked about suicide rates among our military and that there's a new federal program in place that makes it so any service member can can receive free crisis care, whether it's a VA or a regular hospital or a doctor office. So that's a brand new federal policy and it saved like fifty one thousand. Oh my already. Yeah wow, Now that's good news. Yeah wow. And your family has a charity, great shape in nonprofit, so we'll tell us about that. And it's in your yeah, great
shape in corporated. We were founded in nineteen eighty eight. Uh. It is through service, really that we found freedom. Who's we you and your mom? Yea in my family, yes, So, my mommy had never been out of the country. And my Aunt Patty, who I told you about, she's done a lot of traveling and she is a flower child through and through. She has often shown up just when you need her most.
And my mommy hadn't been anywhere. And it's after we'd gone through a particularly hard time with my daddy and he didn't live in the house in the anymore. And my Aunt Patty says, time for you to go on an adventure. It's time for you to set yourself free. So she took my mama to Jamaica in the early eighties. And my mama says, as soon as she stepped off that plane, she just felt like she was home. Really, Oh, that's beauty in my family, no matter where we stand,
we make family. So you know, y'all are my family, right, Like that's just how that's how we operate in my village. And so then my baby sister, and then we got to start going to Jamaica because we made family in Jamaica. And then a nineteen eighty eight Hurricane Gilbert hit the island, decimated the island, and our friends and family were suffering, and so we threw a reggae party. I was a senior in high school, and we gathered up money and supplies, and my mommy was on the first
plane into Jamaica allowed in after the hurricane. And my mommy in those days could hardly speak her own name, she was so shy. And now I can write speeches for her and she leads humanitarian projects and she's the ambassador. So we grew from this Duffel Bag charity to now fast forward and we lead some of the world's largest international humanitarian projects. Dental care, eye care, literacy programs, computers, teacher training. Everyone. Everyone is welcome because we
have a job for you and sandals Resorts International Sandal's Foundation. They are a number one sponsor, so they host all of our volunteers at no charge. You come for one week or two weeks. You work your ass off in the dick. Can I say ass? You can say if you want to, but don't. But I know you wouldn't want to say that because I actually learned how to say the F word in my forties. But my mama still doesn't like it. No, no, mama, And if moms no, no, no, no no. But you work your ass off in
the daytime and then you live it up at nighttime. And Sandal's is Jamaican owned and now we serve on several of their other islands where they exist. Okay, so so you two should come, you three. I will love that because I would love to help people. And then, of course I've always wanted to go to Jamaica and I think the people there are probably incredible. Yeah, so how imagine this group on a plane together. Awesome, I would be and everybody would love it because a laughter and sure, yeah,
just like his last airplane ride. Oh I heard about your delight was such a delight. Yeah, right, I would have stood up for you. Thank you. Yeah, big time. Yeah, I think a lot of people would have would have heard that. Sure, So how does one get a hold of you Great Shape Incorporated or becoming involved in this? Yeah? All you have to do is we have our website great shape ink dot org, great Shaping dot org and you can check out all the projects there.
It's almost time to announce our dates. We receive the new list usually each February, and so then we'll post the new dates. So we have like a ninety two percent return rate on our volunteers, so it moves fast. If you want to go like you should apply to go quickly, and everybody just like sits waiting for the announcement of the dates of their particular projects. Some people go back to the same project every year and it's like a
reunion for them. Other people try new projects. And it doesn't matter what you do for a living or what age you are. We'll put you to work. We'll train you. We have orientations and part of the curriculum I right, is un collaborative communication because you've got to turn a group of strangers into a synergistic team in twenty four hours. Oh that be Laura and I you Laura and I yeah, boom oh boom done. Yeah, you're a
communications like coach. Is that what you were talking about? Like, is that to try to get people to work as best as they can as a team, right? Yeah, So individually I teach people to share their story more effectively, get more in touch with themselves, and then be able to communicate it. And then with teams like that, then I teach the art of the exhale, focused messaging and engaged listening, and we have protocols and
what's focusing messaging? Focused messaging? Yeah, yeah, that's where you are so clear about what it is you want to say. You can speak it in one sentence and you just stick to that. Like let's say you're in an argument. Okay, let's say let's say you guys are having a slumber party and somebody, you know, they leave the wet towel on the floor, and they spit the toothpaste on the mirror, and they don't make the bed, and they like the ac really cold, and you like to be
really warm. But you still have to get where you need to get in the morning, right, You still need to be on time seven am. And the one person takes a really long shower and the other person is super kid quick, like I can get ready twenty two seconds super fast. Okay, So then you get an argument about that. Normally you're gonna be like, man, I'm sick of the towel and the toothpaste and the bad and it's too cold in here, and you're so thoughtless. What is the other
person going to do? I know what you say, get out of my house? Right, It's an option, do you It is an option. Sure, start with something positive and then say say the thing and then end with something positive. Sandwich it. You could do that. However, your goal is to get where you need to get on time. True, okay, okay, So that means really the one thing that you need to work out is the shower time. Cause you can get ready on time. If
there is a towel on floor, you can get ready on time. If you've been too cold, unless you didn't get enough sleep, all those things aren't necessarily affecting you getting somewhere on time. But if someone takes an hour's shower and you are outside waiting outside the door, so you say, what's my You ask yourself, what is my goal in this conversation? My goal is to get to work on time, or my goal is to get a hot date, or my goal is to receive permission for this or consent for
that, or what. You decide what your goal is, and you only share information to back that up. So you say, I notice you like to take a really long shower, and that must feel really good. The other person's like, yeah, I'm down from the long shower. I gotta do ABCDEF and G. And then you can say, I am actually very fast in the shower. I wonder if I could get in the shower first. I'll be out in twenty two seconds, and then you can have the
bathroom all to yourself and I will have already left for work. That was non confrontational. That was actually nice. Yeah, I didn't feel any kind of yeah, say what you want, say what you need in a really clear way. So many folks just like dance. They yes, they did so caught up and being irritated, and you know today, Hey, I had to go in and have a conversation with a boss and I didn't really need anything to be fixed. I just wanted to be heard, and so
that's what I said. I said, do you have a minute for me to share some irritations I'm having. I don't need you to do anything about it. I just want to be I just need to speak it. They're like, yeah, come on in how to go great? But it actually became like an hour long conversation of right ideas and you know, how how can we influence, how can we collaborate, how can we all be working
together? You know, of course, of course. Yeah. Another thing that I saw was that you could be convinced to do some Carrie yoke. There's a great karaoke place right here on Washington Oh Way, It's called the Lamplighter. Oh my gosh, you do love karaoke? Okay, go to what's your go to song? It's always old country stuff like Patsy Klein. Oh really crazy creative juices are stirring right now. Oh what do you mean by you guys sing karaoke? I know, but yes, I do something.
I have many many. I get nervous though, so I really I only stick to a very short list of songs. Us to Jodie's house. I know our friend Jody has karaoke parties all the time. Oh my god, Okay, this is the song I used to pick because I used to think that I could sing it well, but I never could. You know that song by Bonnie Raid, I Can't make You Love Me? I would get up. That's a hard one. I know what what is my problem? People are part of a Saturday night karaoke and I'm like, and I
can't make you love me? You guys to remember the days when karaoke was karaoke and people would show up at the bar with their own headset. There used to be this guy who always got in line first, and he'd have his own headset, and so during the instrumental interludes, he'd go order his beer. He was like six' five, super skinny. I can see him clear as day. And this is way back in the day. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Okay, you were talking about goals do you have?
I mean you've seen like you've reached all your dreams, Like, do you have a goal? Do you have a dream? What is your dream? I have a lot of dreams, Okay, I really and I have a lot. I've really worked hard to set intentions. For example, I can muscle my way through anything physically and mensely. I can physically and mentally, I can muscle my way through it and so my goal, my intention would have been trying to learn the last eight years, is to have more
finesse, to have more ease in it. Not everything. I don't have to fix everything. I certainly can. I'm very solution oriented, extremely resourceful, but I don't have to. I also don't need to use all my muscles in every situation. I can listen, I can be quiet, I can just love you, you know what I mean. I can be softer even. I went to the Roast City School of Burlesque in Portland, Oregon because I came out of a hard relationship and I needed to find myself again.
And because I can muscle my way through everything. I'm like sporty spice, I move like this. So I went to the School of Burlesque so that I could learn how to have more ease in my body, be more sensual, I guess would be the word, but really, just oh wow, how fun you can? I mean the first group and everybody's sitting in a circle. It is so emotional. All sizes, shapes, types of people, and all there for a seemingly different reason, but really all the
same reason. Just to find our way, find a new way within ourselves. Some people could hardly even roll their shoulders. Now I know how to be on stage. I know that even if I can't dance or I forget something, I can still be on stage and I will still be alive after the fact. But not all the people in the class knew that they had
no idea that they could survive. And so to go from the first day where they could hardly do a shoulder rolled to warm up to their own version of a strut, swagger across the stage, shirt open, It's like it was the most beautiful, empowering experience. And of course my mommy and my aunties flew to Portland or come to my east side. All where did she fly when you lived over? You said you lived out of the country. Where did you know? I've lived in Central America, South America, Jamaica,
she's lived she lives in and out of Jamaica right. Well, But Eastern Washington, where's they Okay, what's what's what city is there? That's like Kennewick, Richland, Pasco. Eastern They took really good care of me. I love that community. Shout out, you know to try cities and Spokane, but those aren't necessarily like my mommy loves the tropics. She loves to be warm. We're very My hair is sticky. Is she still in organ then okay? And I want her to move. I want her to
ye, yes, yeah, she she need to manifest a home. You Oh, you asked about goals. That's what we started to talk about. Sorry, it okay. I took us on a little journey there. That's I loved it. It was fun of finesse. But I want I would love to have like a home or like a few cottages and mommies in one and mardos. Yeah. We it needs a better word than compound, but that's it. In community. I want us all to live in community with
each other. You guys can live there. You know what I'm saying, Like, oh my gosh, that is okay, because we're gonna we're gonna grow old together. We've decided and we're gonna like we're gonna stay. We're gonna lay in the same bed like Willie walk a style like the grandparents and Willy Walker. We're gonna have all the streaming services. We're gonna order door dash every day and do all the fun things so we can be in one of your cottages. Yeah, oh my gosh, and we don't ask for
much. Very clean. I'm very clean. I eat. Do you like to clean after other people? Yeah? Okay, because well that would be me. I'm not the cleanest person in the world. But you know what, some of us need a little help. We all, you know, bring our gifts and define it us. And then if if I'm annoying you too much, then you'll come with me with a very clear message, right, a very very message for me. Do you need to take a walk outside? I use that one. Then I know, and then I knows
for three and a half months now to go outside. I do have a very funny story for you regarding Lacey Washington. Okay, oh yeah, yes. So one of my first trips up to Washington, I was planning a very fun event and I thought, we'll go We'll go to a winery, you know, because I heard that they have such great well, all the great wineries were so far away. They were like, I was like, nobody's gonna drive four and a half hours to one of these places. So
I found one called the Medicine Creek Winery. Maybe I should have said that, but anyway, Oh, it was very close. It was in Lacey, Washington, and everybody said, we've never heard of it. Well you'll know why. So we're driving, driving, and we get to where it's a just trailer parks everywhere, right, and I'm like, oh boy, I don't know winery being in this area. I'm not sure, you know. And there's just dogs running everywhere, and and I I said, oh
gosh, I don't know. We turn and we go down this road and it pull up to the winery and it's beautiful. And then we drive through the gates and in Washington, you know, they're called honey pots. The what are what honey what is the honey pot? Honey pot? But that is like sweet, I know, for a horrible little building. And so it's just weeds and there's these guys with just like ponytails, and there setting up these rickety plastic tables with rickety plastic chairs, and I'm like, I
don't think. And then we I look forward and in one of the trailers that's on the property, it's looked like rabid dogs like tearing apart in the back of a couch and the screen was pusted out. The mall, Turn the car around, Turn the car around, turn the car round and friends like, why what's that? And I'm all, no, no, no, no no, I've seen in the Texas chainsaw mask. We gotta get.
I was like no, no, no, no no, And we were out of Lacey so fast, and we never came when you were saying, you know, like there's a lot of good wine that comes out of there. Now. I did some of the early stories when I worked there on wineries and hops, you know, when hops, when I were first starting to grow. Hops started in eastern Washington. Every there's breweries everywhere. Now, what's your favorite movie? Oh gosh, or your top three?
I love movies like about trials and tribulations and coming out the other side. I'm watching a and I like fun series like I'm watching sex Education. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I've started. Yeah, I watched a couple of those. Yeah, I'm great. And it makes me chuckle because my friend Dub Barnes, who I collaborate with a lots, I I always am talking about safe sex and I take the opportunity to talk about bodies and
consent and all of that. But I just do it everywhere and she's always like, why do you even have to talk to the like the server about safe sets, and I'm like, can she tell me she was going on a date tonight? And she looks about eighteen nineteen. I want to make sure she's well prepared. But so I like that show sex Education because it kind of reminds have you watched Bonded? No? No, oh no, my she recommended this to my mom and my my auntie Doodoo, who's my
mom's best friend, because they're looking for something. It's like like bondage and stuff like. It is hilarious. Try it. Yeah, it's very fun. Don't watch Sulburn. Okay, you won't like it. It's not it's not up your alley. Actually, I think I've seen trayl and I was like, oh that that's see, that's totally up my alley. You'd like la. No, I don't think she'd like it's not happy, that's notation true, but she has to be. She's a drug dealer. I don't
think that. Yeah, but they're breaking bad oh no. So if this is about a dress, it was it's too too much, too close to home to yeah, to uneasy in my But this is a little different because she does it for her family to give them a better life. She like she doesn't sample her own product and stuff like that, but it's it's a it's a good story so far. I try not to just I try not to say no from the get go to anything like you know, check it
out, Grayson, Frankie. Have you watched and Georgia Georgia? But I've seen them there. So I also watch a lot of n c I s with my sweetheart Marcos. It's like just easy watching and it's kind of a chuckle because we started it from the very beginning. I never used to a lot of people do that. I have done that. You watch TV quite you know that often. I just didn't have that life. So now I've seen a lot more because of streaming. But we watch an NCIS. It
has a beginning, middle and ending. People do the right thing. It's interesting enough where you're like, what's happening here? You know? It's CIS. Yes, I love it. Well, you know what, it's just been an absolute joy having you are you are incredible? All right, No, it's already it's been an hour already, and we got to let these the outgo party. I know, yeah, we'll go to the Lamplighter perh. My gosh, Okay, so at the end of our podcast, we
say a little something. We say, we say something. I'll say it first, then you say it, and then Eric will say it, and then we'll say goodbye. When we have guests, I don't drag it out. I know he drags it out when we don't have guests, and it annoys me, and he likes it because it annoys me. Anyway, thank you for watching on Instagram, you guys nice. Thank you so much for watching on YouTube, and thank you for listening after the fact and watching it
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