Hello, Hello, everybody. Welcome to Laura Kane after Dark. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I'm Laura Kane and this is Eric Rimmer, Hi, who supposedly brought me a present today, but we're not going to unveil it, and so we're going to unbox it on Thursday. Oh we haven't unboxing on Thursday. Okay. Tonight's episode is going to be epic, perfect word for that. We have reverend doctor. I've been looking forward to this for Natalie Veiled is our special guest in studio. She's a psychic, she's a
medium, she's a healer, she's so many different things. She's a reverend, she's a doctor, she's all these things. And she's going to give us predictions for twenty twenty four, all of us, so all of you are included, Like what's gonna happen? And also what is the significance of the Year of the Dragon which we are coming up upon, and what does that mean for everybody? Plus some numerology maybe, And she brought the tarot cards, real tarot cards, So we're gonna we're gonna each choose one.
I think and see and if I get death, I will freak out. Even though I think that means like change or death of a life. If you have death of a job or something. If you get it all freak out, that could be the potential end of this show. Eric, after dark, your number will be kicking off the show already. God anyway, dude, and uh, after we talk about our sponsors my host chat, I think I need to attend another group other than the group that I'm attending
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Natalie Vale comes on the show, we have a lot to cover. What we do I understand that you have an update for us with regards to what you talked about on Thursday's episode. Yes, you tracked them down. So I had an incident on a plane I was called I was on Southwest where it's open seating, and there was a couple that was not happy that I picked that seat to sit in. So they were calling me like a faggot and stuff, and oh, it's crazy. I don't know, Wait real
quick, I don't know if we can say that. Well, this is exactly what they called me. So those words are a little against terms of service. So well, if it's in quotes, if this is what somebody actually said to him, well, because that's like crazy that somebody would say I agree. I agree, yeah, yeah, And there was another effort for that word, so yes, So I was not going to stand for it. So, being the classy gentleman that I was, I didn't leap
into his lap and punch him until he was unconscious. I wrote to Southwest when I got home, and I got a form letter. Oh so, yeah, I haven't talked to any of you since then. I wrote to Southwest. I got a form letter back saying we're so sorry about the experience you had. Our customer safety and well being is of the utmost importance. Are our flight attendants are trained. Try us again. So it's basically just it was like a big middle finger. They should have just stenciled a middle
finger on there, like just told me that. Everybody. Yeah. So I was not happy with that, so I uh called customer service and got a very nice woman. She said, I've been here for a lot of years, and she goes, that is horrible, so email them again, because there's no phone number that you can call. How convenient. It's like Facebook in the sky. So I gigg furious. And it wasn't about a monetary getting money. It was about being a voice for people that probably would
have never said anything. So and I was like, they messed with the wrong person, because it's all I was a paying customer and I did not get the experience that I paid for. So I was not going to be told by somebody else, no, I don't want you to sit here because I want to splay out on a completely full flight, so you can just sit on the wing or in the toilet like we don't care. So I thought, no, sorry, I paid, just as everybody else did. So I said, so you want me to send the same email to the
same email address and just hope that somebody else answers it things differently. And I was like, hell no, So I emailed the CEO. You found the CEOs. I googled the CEO, found his email address and he has been the CEO since twenty twenty two, so he's fairly new. Okay. So I sent him an email and I said basically the same thing. And I said the initial email that I got back was unsatisfactory. And I said, all I'm asking for is a flight credit one way. That's it,
because my way to Vegas was fine, way back not so much. That's not asking a lot at all. So I thought I was being very reasonable. So yesterday, no today, I got an email back and it was another form letter from the same girl that had So this is what I think happened. The CEO's assistant got the email and forwarded it to the girl that had sent me the original email the form letter and said, this guy's not having it. Fix it. So she sent me an email back and she
said, I'm sorry that you weren't satisfied with my initial response. Our flight attendants are all trained to de escalate situations like this. You know he should have done that when this all started occurring. Because the backstory in a nutshell is I was told I could sit there by the flight attendant, and they were like no and refused to move, and I was like, well, you can move, or I'm just going to climb over you and sit there.
So the flight attendant wasn't authoritative Indian right. So the flight attendant saw this going on, just rugged his shoulders and walked away. So in my letter, I said, I blame him just as much as I blame these ridiculous people. And so I thought everything was going swimming, swimmingly until I got to the section that said when I when I looked at TWIT flight twenty four to fourteen, I noticed that there were twenty other available seats you could
have just moved. And that did it. I had had it with Southwest, which I called Southwest. Oh no, oh no, not another jeromes Oh boy. I emailed back and I said, are you fricking kidding me? I said, that's your response to this is I should have moved. I gave them every opportunity to move. Your flight attendant had told them if they don't like the fact that somebody's sitting here in an unassigned seat. Too bad move, you moved to one of the other twenty seats. Why did
I? I said, I am not an employee of Southwest? Why did I have to do his job? And she and it said in there, I'm sorry that you felt threatened, And I said, don't ever put word in my mouth. I never said that I was threatened. I said I maintained composure because otherwise he'd be in a hospital. So I said, I never said I was threatened. I said, you need to fix this right now, or I will take it a step further and I will go to
the media. Guess who got their resolution? You did boo? Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, okay, squeakush, squeaky wheel got the grease. You got one flight credit? Yeah, and that's all I asked for. I was like, do we really need to go through all this just to get one flight credit? The thing I find funny is that there were twenty empty csre yes like that. We're probably all in the back by the
toilet, which is where I will not sit. So my thing was this, and this is what I said in my response, was why am I being treated like Rosa Parks and told to get to the back of the bus. I don't want to sit back there back Wait wait, it's so not that though. No, But I was like, first of all, you you make a blatant statement about my sexuality, would you when I look like
a lumberjack? And I gave you no indication whether I was gay, straight, non binary, an alien, whatever, and then you continue to brake me through the entire flight. Too bad. You can't figure out who those people were. I know, and I don't care. Thank god he can't. But thank god that it was not a sign seating because there'd be a whole nother issue going on. But I said, how dare you expect me to move when I didn't cause the problem? They let them move, and
that got me my resolution. Yeah. I just think it's so funny that there was like a small issue and instead of just moving to the twenty other seats, you're like, no, no, no, I'm going to force this. I'm going to sit there totally. Well, I wasn't going to move. I let them. It was the whole principle of the thing. And people told me, you're not going to get any resolution I got my resolution. Oh my god, so do you actually have like the like a
paper? It was coming in a separate email. Okay, yeah, supposedly. Well he'll be on it and he'll be here when this couch comes. No, okay, so, like I said, be the squeaky wheel. Yeah that's true. I mean, don't we all do? We all work hard for our money. True. And if you don't get the resolution that you want, if you pay for something and you don't get it being like stupid, I'm going to sue you guys for a million, one hundred million dollars. It's called manners, very nice, ridiculous. Yeah. Okay,
well, oh my god, are we ready? That's right, and I'm so excited I forgot, but I'll make it fairly quick. Let me think today is Monday, so Jessy Laura's host math. No, so in the last seven days, I've been to the casino four of those days. Oh my okay, let me just but but let me back up. Oh no, I went to go see my mom and her best friend, Judy Church, who I call anti Ju. She's known me since I was a baby. They've been friends since high school. They're both eighty of them. Well,
I'm not supposed to say how old they are. In fact, Judy told me that she doesn't tell anybody in her complex where she lives how old she is. They're about twenty one. No, they're like they're in their seventies. They're in their seventies. Yeah, anyway, they've been friends forever. And uh, so we went. I went to rancher Miarage because that's where Judy has a place in the winter. She lives in Oregon, but she comes down here during the winter so she can have some sun whatever.
So they love going to the casinos. There's a bunch of them out there. So the first day I get there, we go. I win three hundred bucks. So I only the slot machines. But okay, the slot machines these days are so exciting because even if you win like fifteen bucks, like lights go off and like people are dancing and things are flying all over the screen. It's just exciting. People are dancing next to you, no
on the screen. I have never gambled once again. Oh my god, Oh I'm gonna take you to sid Yeah, that would be so fun. I U. I used to have a gambling problem. Well, my problem was I was good at it, but I like you huh were you cards? Oh yeah, oh yeah. I like a lot of money when I was eighteen. Then I stopped. Somebody owed me a lot of money. Look, I bring one hundred dollars, and if when I run out of that one hundred dollars, then I that I didn't done. Yeah, so,
and I my bet. It's the penny slots. But the penny slots are very facetious because you have to make the minimum bet is eighty eight cents. Then it goes up to like one fifty to forty, and then you can go up and up, and so the higher you you bet, the more you win, obviously, so you can make it last longer or it goes by quicker. Whatever. So anyway, day one, I won three hundred bucks over the hundred that I had, so I had four hundred dollars. Next day we go, I lose two hundred of it, so I
still have two hundred dollars. Then the next day i'm I'm on, I'm leaving, it's time to go home. Oh boy, And getting on the ten, there's the casino right there. No, I'm like, hmmm, I had three hundred dollars in my wallet, two hundred that I want and then the hundred that I brought. I'm like, I'm going to go in real quick. I'm only going to stay for a half hour before I get on the freeway to get back. And you were there until four in the
morning. No, I was literally there for maybe forty minutes. Gone, everything gone, done, all three undred done, done, done, done gone. I don't play slots made me throw up. This weekend. I went to Sequon and I took fifty dollars this time because I was I needed to punish myself a little bit. You're punishing yourself by gambling more money, well for for not gambling as much. And I came home with three hundred and fifty dollars, thank you very much. And you know what, I
cannot stop thinking about those damn slot machines. And I was just watching a TV show where there's they were in a casino and I hear that d thing. I was like, like Pavlot's dogs. I was like, I gotta go back. What I'm going to do, I'm back, I gotta go back. I want to win more, Ryan, I want to win more, Natalie. You know what I'm going to do. I'm going to send you something that's going to make you never want to gamble again. What what you'll see? No, that sounds weird. It sounds weird, and I
don't believe it. You should go Sequon. That'd be fun. We'll all go to Sequon. Well, we're not playing slot, I'm you want to play bingo? Have you ever done? No? No, we're playing blackjack or poker. We'll play black jack. That's easy. I get scared of the dealer being there. I like being alone. No, they're so nice, are they? Like? Really, the best time I've ever had is sing either like by myself the dealer and just chatting. Okay, the table
of people just like all hanging out. And I'm not going playing cards, Yes you are. I don't do buffets. I don't do anything with a sneeze guards. I don't gamble. Quan is like the coolest place. I'll just lay out in command like smoke. No, I'm a non smoker, so stop. The whole downstairs is non smoking. The upstairs is smoking. Well, in twenty nineteen, the whole place was smoking, not wreaked. It's ever cross No, no, no, they've totally changed everything so that's
really good. But anyway, so I mean, I'm on my way to a new support group, I think. Boy. I mean, luckily I'm not. I don't have thousands to blow but still geez. But I came away, lord, I you know, I went and I deposited the money right away bank account. I'm gonna I am going to take over your bank account. God, this is the only way, Okay. Natalie Vale, come on down, bring put on her put on her little music, Come on up, frevriend doctor Natalie Vail, Laura Kane, After Dark Podcasts,
Special Psychic. She is the best of the best of the best. No, you really are. And congratulations on ninety Day Diaries. Yes she she When Kimberly was on ninety Days, I recorded it, uh huh. And then she Natalie's segment came up first, and she went and visited her. And you were so cute. I mean you were like, you didn't know anything about this woman, nothing. You didn't even know about the TV show. Now, because my guilty pleasure of watching reality TV dating shows is love
is Blind. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I do. Actually I'm so addicted. I actually just watched it the Swedish version. I know that there. Yes, Oh do I do? I start it? I started. It's a train wreck. It's so awesome and everyone is so exotic on it. Is it better than the US one? No, because like when you're watching it in English, it's a lot easier to follow along because you have to read subtitles. Okay, can't like you know how like when you watch TV and you're like, oh, I'm going to go like grab a glass
of water, have like some a snack. That's the type of show you do that too, right exactly, or like I'm going to check my Instagram or like my email. This you literally have to watch. And I was like as soon as there were subtitles, I was like, oh god, exactly. But it's it's good. No, I did not. I knew nothing about her other than she was your friend, that was all. And she came walking in and she's like, there's this there's a woman that's walking
in with you. And then like immediately Kimberly's subscribing because their mom had passed like months before, and you felt that energy really strong, and that was like, oh, it gave me goose bombs and stuff. But you look so pretty, you know. I was so excited for you. But anyway, so we thought it would be really great to have you on the beginning of the year to talk about your predictions for twenty twenty four and what this year the dragon, what is the significance of this, and then maybe some
tarot cards and a little numerology and go for it. Yeah, I want to hear. This is my most kind of busy time of the year. It's kind of like how accountants are really busy for tax time. This is psychic's tax time. Because everybody wants to come in at the beginning of the new year. They want to know what is in store for them, what are the topics, the themes, universal influences they're going to be impacting them, and then how it's going to relate to the different areas and they're life,
whether that's love, health, money, career. So this is awesome because what I do for people is I look at also the universal influence energies that are going on, because we've got energies happening in our Western astrology for
the year. So twenty twenty four is the year eight. So we'll talk about some of the universal themes of a year of eight, and then we also have the lunar calendar that influences us, which that's going to happen on the new moon in Aquarius, which is coming up in a little less than a month now on February tenth. Sou on February tenth, that energy is going to change over, and we're going to move out of the Year of the Water Rabbit that we've been in for twenty twenty three and we're moving into
the energies of the Wood Dragon for twenty twenty four. So it's huge. I mean, like we're really in this major transition space right now, and like we're ending a lot of old stuff and we're about to begin a lot of new stuff. And then we also have our own part personal numerology and how that impacts us. So I like to look at everybody's Eastern and Western
numerology because they're calculated differently, they're interpreted differently. So it gets us a nice overview, like a nice comprehensive overview about what's going on in your world and what you can expect and how to best navigate these energies. Because I always like to say, if you know, like numerology is very similar to like if you know you're going to be going to New York, right city in the middle of January. Like, so say you went today to New
York, would you dress like how we're dressed today? No? No, right, why because it's going to be too cool exactly? So what do you do? What do you do if you're going to go to New York and in coasting surbs? Yeah, gloves, hat, yeah, the whole bit, right, yes, Okay, so you get there, You're dressed for the warmth, right, you're dressed with the cold weather. Is it still cold? Yes? Yeah? Yeah, so but your perse for it.
So that's how I like to look at numerology, okay, okay, yeah, so yeah, like it's not going to change, Like knowing this information does not change what's going to be occurring, right, Like what is
the environment? What is the atmosphere? But what it does do is it helps give you a heads up so that you can better approach this from a different angle, a different attitude, a different approach, because I think it's like, resistance causes us a lot of pain and suffering, and there are certain years where it's great for business, Like it's like, oh man, you're in a killer business year, like this is the time to start a
business initiate something, and then there are times when it's terrible for business. And so say you've got this great business idea and you're like, oh my gosh, let's go, let's do this, and then you just keep hitting wall after wall and resistance and you think that you're the failure. You think, oh my gosh, like maybe my idea sucks, you know, and then you give up on it. And then like a year later, somebody else comes out with the same thing and you're like, what that hell,
because it just like wasn't your year. The idea was awesome, but maybe that wasn't the right time for it. So when people book a session with you, can they say, all right, I want to focus on numerology, or I want to do focus on tarot cards, or I want to focus on just a reading, or can you do all of them at the same time, Like I mean, I don't know, is that Can you mix it up and stuff? Yeah? I actually do a comprehensive with every
modality because sometimes you need different things. Like sometimes people come in they really want to talk to a loved one that's on the other side, and so we'll do some of that sometimes they really just need guidance, clarity, direction on a very specific area in their life. And then sometimes they're just looking for again an overview and just a general blueprint map for what they can focus
on to make the most of where they're at. So twenty twenty four, give us some words your predictions that are going to occur or what's in store. Yeah, so, because twenty twenty four is the year eight, right, So how we get that is really easy. It's just two plus zero plus two plus four, right, Okay, okay, we can all do math, all right, well some of us can, but I could do
that one. Yeah, that's yeah. You don't have to know calculus to do demerology, which is awesome because I you know, I'm an acupuncturist, and I always joke that's why I'm not a plastic surgeon because of math. But anyway, that's not sure. I love acupuncture. But ideas that it's the eight year, so eight years are about prosperity and abundance, I know, I'm actually so excited. And then also it's again the year of the wood Dragon, like I was saying, so, which is a time of
major growth and transformation and resilience. So this, this combination of the Western year being in an eight and the lunar neiar being in the wood dragon is super exciting. So my personal predictions for the year are that this is going to be a really good time for people to stand up into their power,
like really put themselves out there. So I think it's great Eric that you already were being assertive and you were putting down boundaries and you were saying, hey, this is completely unacceptable and I want to be adequately compensated for my pain and suffering because this is important to me. And so yeah, in the Year of the eight, already you're like establishing boundaries, you're being assertive, you're owning your power, you're being an authority in your own life.
That's really eight energy. So also around eight great year for financial investments. So if you haven't already talked to your financial planner, like share yourller, that's right, that's yeah. Capital growth, yeah, because it is time to grow people Like I'm really excited. I don't know about you, but my four oh one K and my Ira took like such a nose dive from twenty twenty and I was actually like I got to close these and I lose.
I was losing because loses one thousand dollars and thinks it's the end of the world. Yeah, right, So yeah, it's a very category thing. It's like, oh my god. So anyway, uh, and already the year has started and the growth projections are really good in the stock market, like things are looking up, which is awesome. So I think that if you don't have if you haven't already focused on your retirements or you're planning for that, now is the time to do it. This is a great
year to pay off loans, credit card debts. I've been doing yeah, totally already. I've been doing that, yeah, because you're in the energy you're feeling yeah. Yeah, and then you know, maybe refinancing your car loan maybe even or like you know, I wouldn't say it's quite the right time to do the mortgage thing yet, so mortgage rates are still really high. We kind of wait on that. But but anything else in your life
that where you can create more financial like solvency would be really good. And also kind of just like you can take you can feel a little safer to take a calculated risk this year with your money. Okay, So as far as investments are concerned, but definitely paying off loans, student loans. I think there may be some information coming out about student loans. So I know they've just done the save plan, so that should be interesting for some people.
So overall, I would say, really good for money. Okay, Now also watch your money because girl, dang, okay, you are already I know, I know, I know. I thought I would come home and pay the rent. Baby, I've made the rent money on this slow machine. I have high hopes, you always hopes. Let's just like rate it in a little bit. But like you know, I mean, it is a good money year. But at the same time, you know, be responded, I don't like take that to the next levels what you're saying.
Yes, I get it, I get it. I don't take a hobby and make it into an addiction. But yes, yes, yes, we've all been guilty of that. Oh there's that for the eight year. Now we look at the lunar New Year happening again. Like I said in February tenth, so dragon energy is really fierce. It's really major, big,
powerful, transformative energies. So I think it's going to be a pretty big forward year for us last year of the year, the rabbit was kind of like a little gentle, a little timid, like, you know, will they won't they in like every area of our lives, and a lot of fear coming up and fears that are holding us back. And then the
Dragon's like, fuck that shit, let's go, let's do it. Let's just like, let's just like burn it down, right, because a dragon dragon doesn't give fucks Like a dragon literally, if it sees what it wants, it like gets clears the path, right. Yes, So that's the thing for next year is about well, this well upcoming year soon. It is really just clearing the path, like being super hyper focused and clear on what you want. Because dragons are killer manifestors, so if you can like
dream it, it can happen, you know. So Yeah, really good year for manifesting. Really good year for again being in your power because dragons are very powerful creatures. The wood energy that comes in with the dragon is going to lead to like a lot of creative innovations this year. So I'm
thinking there's gonna be some really cool things happening in technology this year. I'm also feeling like there's like major advancements in that like big power plays happening in the tech realm, probably around AI because that's already a thing, right, but not necessarily scared. I think like it's going to just like really take off in a revolutionary way, like because there's still people who haven't adapted to AI yet, you know, and are who are a little bit scared of
it. And I think that next year it's going to become like a little bit more of a household type of a name okay, okay, yeah. And then another part of it too, I think for diplomacy for this upcoming year is going to be pretty good, Like there's you know, my hope, my goal, maybe the war you know, and Ukraine kind of finally ends. Because the Dragon energy does have a lot of good energy around like global politics and diplomacy and kind of may help with communication and getting people on
the same page and like a win win strategy type of thing. So those are what I'm a hope that would yeah, will will occur. Yeah, So anyway, that would be kind of what I'm seeing for the Dragon. But like I said, most importantly, for us as individuals, it's going to be a lot about manifesting and being really clear on what we want and
kind of thinking outside of the box for creative solutions. You know. I think oftentimes we get so attached to outcomes, we're like, Okay, it's got to be exactly like this, right, otherwise, don't bring it, you know, And then that gets in the way of how actually magical and powerful things can show up in a completely different way that's even better for us than what we could have imagined, you know. So just be open and
be present and be aware. And I just look for signs, and you know, I mean that I'm thinking about myself, like, yes, anyway, you did our numerology too, didn't She signs Natalie does not mean a dinging slot machine. My gosh, I just I love the freaking slot machines. But the slot machine has so many signs on they do not the kind of signs that Natalie is talking about. My gosh, if there's three cherries walk the other way, okay, Oh no, we are beyond cherries.
I mean, there's like all sorts of things. There's poppers, there's like pigs that piggy banks that blow dancing. There's like this like guy in a sombrero that which guy in the sombrero that shoots off the guns. But you know, I don't know. I actually I just look for the little guy, the little guy in the sombrero. I love him. But anyways, so all right, so I'm really excited to hear, most importantly, more than myself, I'm kind of excited to hear what's in store for Brian this
year numerology. Yeah, I don't know to start there. Yeah, let's start with Brian. All right. Do I have your consent? Ye? Okay, all right, So I just want to make sure because that's a really bit important part, you know. So Okay, Brian, your Western numerology this year is in the House of seven, and your Eastern is in the House of two. Seven is a time of spiritual exploration, of personal growth, of spiritual development. It's a time also of being highly introspective and
reflective. So if you feel yourself going a lot inward this year, or just kind of being a lot in your head, that would be a lot of that seven energy. Seven is a time when we really do and I think, like last time I was here, I even brought this up with you too, and you were like, na bitch like about having a No, It's true, Okay, I don't remember that, but that does sound
exactly like yeah, yeah, when we were talking. I think it was like one of the crystals that you picked and this was like back and like I think like June or something. Yeah, last year, so around like doing a little bit more exploration into you know, having like your existential beliefs and you know what's important to you, what do you believe, what you
aligned with, and that can just be your values. It doesn't have to actually be spiritual, although there could be some exploration in that realm for you. Maybe there's some plant medicine on the horizon. I don't know. Maybe you're gonna journey, maybe you're gonna trip, maybe you're gonna see Jesus. I don't know, but like that is definitely a possibility because of the energy of the seven. Okay, now the Eastern two is a little bit different.
This is going to be about building a really solid foundation for yourself. Two energy is kind of like building a blueprint, like working off of a blueprint. So it's about kind of building a framework for your life, getting your ducks in a row, and setting yourself up for success. So it's
a really heavy, detail oriented year for you in twenty twenty four. Okay, it's a lot about getting your helpers and plays, getting a support system, kind of building yourself up so that you can make a launch pad for yourself to take off from next year in twenty twenty five. Next year, twenty twenty five, whoa, whoa, it's going to be a lot of action, a lot of change, a lot of growth potential as far as
money is concerned. So this is the year. Yeah, So this is the year that you're setting the foundation for that, so that that could happen for you for next year. Okay, don't you don't really, no, no, no, that's not what Natalie is saying. It's saying that we're going to be so off the charts that we'll be able to give Brian a raise. That's go, yes, absolutely yeah. But she's well, well, let's get to yours. That would mean that you have money, so
we'll see if that happens to you. Two. Okay, so far I'm the only one making the money. That's true. That's true, and that's twenty twenty five. Though, dude, I'm a little pessimistic about Laura's fortune finances. One hundred dollars is all I I take and if I lose whatever Laura's spiritual expert, I'm taking over her. All right, let's do Eric next, Okay, Okay, So Eric, okay, all right, So Eric, your Western numerology this year is in the eight and your Eastern is
in the nine. So remember how I was saying the universal energy is eight. Okay, because your personal Western is also in the eight. You're really feeling the money vibes. Okay. So again, this year is going to
be a lot about getting your financial house in order. It's going to be about like level setting your prosperity mindset, okay, because like you know, it's really important that we think that we have enough right not to quo because Jesus already came up in this conversation, but not to quote the Bible, but like that the verse that says to he who hath more is given to who you don't more is taken away. So it's that's really just a prosperity
mindset, okay. And what that means is is like counting your blessings, practicing daily attitudes, you know, and just looking at the life that you've built and saying like I love this and there's always room for more and what is that more that I want? Okay, this is gonna be a lot about again accumulating resources, using the resources that you already do have to the best of their abilities, and just you know, for the where you're at
in your life. I would say also to this is about forward future planning for retirements. Oh my god, you've been doing that, I know. Yeah, So that's gonna be a lot of twenty twenty four for you. Now on the Eastern front, you're in the House of nine. So the way that numerology works is on a one to a nine year cycle or one is the beginning and nine is the ending, and we go through it chronologically, so that kind of tells you where you were, you know, over
the course of all of the years. Now nine being the end of a cycle is the end of a cycle. So there's gonna be some experience for you in some way that twenty twenty four things are gonna be wrapping up. Okay. So this can be experience of loss, possibly even death of someone close to you, not Laura, not Brian. You know, there could like just something naturally happening occurring. It could also be that, like you
make some changes in your inner world as well. So it can be because nine can be outer world changes or inner world changes, and everything has a lifespan, even relationships, so it may be. I always say people come into our lives for are a reason, a season, or a lifetime, and so nine years have a tendency to like shine a big fat flashlight on our relationships where we do a lot of relationship review and kind of look at is this a relationship? I need to renew our relationship. It's it's really
time to like release. I don't believe me. Don't you leave me either, No, our relationship. I'm going to get rich, you know, you know what I know. But she's talking about I wait, I'll tell you after. Okay, you're going to well you probably okay, okay, okay, yeah, so that would have been that would be what I would say for you. Wow in in hell, it's all kind of panning out for you. Makes sense? Oh totally okay? Good all right? Oh okay, no, this is good new Actually you have like this is really
good news. Actually no, no, no, no, okay. So just it's interesting because like Eric is ending in a cycle, he's ending a phase, he's completing something, he's wrapping stuff up. He's closure, YadA, YadA. Okay, you are in a house of one in your western, which is fresh starts and new beginnings. You're entering a brand new fae your life. Yeah, so that's actually amazing. Stoked about that. Yeah, it's like kind of like a clean slate, fresh start. And one
years. Remember I talked about how the dragon's really good for manifesting. Yes,
so are one years. Okay, so this is the year that you just get to get like big girl, you get like, you know, if you don't haven't already done one, do one of those silly little vision boards because they really do work, Okay, you know, And then and just like don't hold back, right, it's just like what are your fantasies, because even if it's the fantasy is ridiculous, Like, there's still some nugget of truth in there, and you don't want to hold back on what
could potentially be like a hidden desire or an or like an unspoken need of yours. So that was that's really exciting because one year's set the stage for where you're going to be over the course in the next nine years. Yeah, okay, so you definitely don't want to like hold back, you know.
Okay, yeah, so it's this is a great time for like journaling and like doing kind of some more again vision boarding and just kind of figuring out like what are your small term goals and then like what are your like long term goals. Okay, okay, okay, now with the Eastern seven, Okay, this is exciting, this is good. So uh the way that like the Eastern neurology works, it's a little like superstitious. But seven is the best year of a nine year cycle. Yeah, Laura's winning.
Yeah, I won the numerology contest. You're gonna manifest a gambling addiction. I'm gonna manifest winning. So no, I'm just kidding enough about that. But what's okay? So yeah, so seven is the second year of a two year prosperity cycle, okay, where you don't have to work as hard this year as you have for the last several years, where things are just gonna come a little bit more easily to you. Gooday, like kind of
like more like low hanging fruit. It's like I've planted the seeds, I've watered the garden, I've tended the garden, I've like taken the first few harvests in but this is like my Thanksgiving. Nice. Yeah, so like the Thanksgiving is that time where you get to then travel, have fun,
you know, meet new people. This is a great year for love and romance as well, I would yeah really yeah, even thinking about it, is actually a really good year for love and romance, and like it's also said's a good year for travel too, and also it's a good year to just like experience the beauty that is around you, so like just taking time for the little moments and the simple pleasures like buying yourselves flowers like I saw your some flowers over there, so pretty okay, you know, and like
buying yourself like nice little things you know, within within your means obviously, like don't break the bank or like going gambling to do it, but you know, just really telling yourself like hey girl, like at a girl, like you've been working your ass off and you have arrived, like I have
arrived. I'm here, you know, and some like just kind of being open and receptive to all the good that wants to come your way, like it's like you've put good karma out like bringing the karma good comma finally scene, I know, it is full right now, big time. I'll bring over my leaf flower Okay, thank you. Okay, So on our Thursday show, all of this has been like amazing, Oh my god. I'm
like I could talk to you forever. Me too. But I had this like kind of this this tarot card deck that I bought at an airport one time just because it looked cool for some reason, for whatever reason. I mean I don't know how to read, but anyway, so we broke it out. We were like trying we have there's a little book that goes along with it. Whatever, So it was a disasters. We said, well, when Natalie comes, we'll see if she can bring the real tarot cards
and maybe we each pick one. And you said, okay, yeah, so we have the camera pointed down toward the cards so we can see who picks what. So when it's time is do you want it to be time to time? Okay? Time all right already? So like what are we supposed to be thinking? What are we supposed to be doing before we pick
our cards? Yeah? Okay, So first things first, when anybody ever gets a to row deck, you want to clear the deck because you just don't know what kind of energies are on there from like shipping, handling, processing, you know, I don't know, so maybe someone had blood all over it. I have no idea, but like I'm kidding, but just really intentionally clearing the deck, right, so, and making sure that any other residual energy that's not yours, not helpful for you, or that's going
to mess up the cards is just cleared from it. You know. Then you want to consecrate the deck. So that's another intentional thing that you do, which is really just putting good energy into it and saying like, may this be used with only the highest and best good of all parties involved. Okay, then when you shuffle the deck, you're really just infusing it with your questions and your intentions. So like, what are you wanting again?
Clarity, guidance, direction around, because that's really important because cards are an intentional tool, they're just a tool. This deck, the writer weight deck is actually, oh my gosh, almost one hundred years old or maybe it is around with classic artwork. Yeah yeah, and I saw you actually have the hanging man on your I'm a big artwork. Yeah, me too, actually, so I had Yeah, I've had some custom stuff done it's awesome.
Now. Terro actually comes from the Middle Ages though, so it's just a it's a tool for divination, and the idea is that it's it's a very visual thing, so it helps us kind of get out of our head. So that way we're not because like we have our ego that wants to know something, and then we'll kind of force an agenda. And with cards, you can't really do that right, right, right, So you're just putting your energy into it and then you're allowing what needs to come up come
up. Right, do we each have to like put energy? Okay, yeah, I've already done all this. I've already done all this. But I've actually I've already said before I even came in the house, I already said a prayer of protection to make sure we're only working with good energies and that everything that comes forward for you to guys today is from a place of light, love, true source God. She's she's sitting right underneath the wied
Jeep. The reason there's we played this one time in a Halloween show, So Brian, anyway, that's that was my Christmas, our Christmas gifts. That's why the WEII boards I put my name on it, so it should be cleansed as opposed to your airport dirty tarot card, my dirty airport tarot card. Yea millions of people have been like the energy of germs. All right, so my gosh, I love it. In your opinion, you should go first, and Brian, you should come up here, come sit
on the cameras. Oh okay, Well, when it's okay, you go last, you go last. Okay, okay, what do you think? Yeah, so I'm just going to grab the deck. Okay. Now does it matter when you if they're upside down or right side up? Yeah? It does. So there's reverse and non reverse. I've actually already turn them all upside because I don't even want to like get into the reverse. Okay everybody today, because I'm on good vibes, you know, like truly,
so, so I'm going to read them all right sided up. Now there's this is a duck of seventy eight cards. I pulled out twenty two cards that are the major Arconic cards. And the reason I did that is because the major Arconic cards are about milestones, life lessons, karmic points, heroes, journey like that type of thing. So this is this card is going to be your emblematic card for the year, Okay, that you're choosing today.
Okay, yuge, So this is going to be important. This is important, Like this is going to be what is the overall topic theme? Like what is the lesson that the universe has for you? What are you doing with yourself in twenty twenty four? Okay? Yeah, and like what's going to come at you over and over again in either subtle or very obvious ways, because that's how the universe works. When it's trying to teach us
something. It usually goes like hey, hey girl, hey girl, And then if we don't listen, it's like, you know, so like I really want you all to avoid getting bitch slapped into twenty twenty four because this is never a good feeling, you know, right right? Yeah, okay, okay, So we have a camera here if you want to spread them out whenever you do. But but yeah, I'm actually just gonna have you pull it off this and we can put it under there so people can see.
Okay, Okay, Okay, I think that's that's probably the way to go. Okay, So when you pull cards, you just really want to be centered you want to find your your center. Okay, So usually I have people uncross their legs because that's just kind of helps the energy flow a little bit better. Okay. Yeah, and then just like a nice and tall spine, and then we might want to take a nice deep breath in,
blow it out through the mouth. Good. Let's just do two more deep breath in and out and biggest breath of the day, all the way in and out. Good. All right, keep your eyes closed. I want you guys to just drop down out of your heads and into your hearts because this is the place of our true authentic self. And you're just gonna connect with your heart space and connect with your intuition and the divine spark that lives within you. And you're just gonna ask for what is the main topic
and theme for you for twenty twenty four? In the to row? Another deep breath in and out? Good? All right, Laura, you can choose first. Do I keep my eyes closed? Or okay, don't pick a bad one. Okay, Yeah, here's the camera. Hello, I got that devil? Got that devil? Oh no, that makes sense to me? Shit, oh no, no? Okay, to fire out, okay, okay, I'm gonna things are starting my camera. Okay, Okay, this so I know that this sound what? Yeah? But possibly good?
Yeah? Actually so much. Are you ready like we're gonna go world deep right now? Yes? Okay, totally ready? Yeah. Okay. So the double Card is about your ego, and it's about ego checking yourself
in twenty twenty four. Okay, This double Card is about materialism and really looking at overcoming any sort of materialism that you've got for yourself, around what you think you should be, how you think you should look, how you think you should act, all of that, okay for other people, right, because image is super important, especial when you're in the media, Like you know it's important, but it's like what image is it? Really is it? Is it who I really am? Or what I feel like?
Is what you want me to be? Type of thing? Okay? Okay, yeah. This is also about overcoming fear and facing your own inner demons. Now I know you're no stranger to that, Like you've done that, You've looked at your shadow self multiple times. Okay. Yeah. And also there's always more layers, there's always more depth, right, because our demons
are what keep us trapped. In old self sabotaging behavioral patterns that don't serve us, right, and they were they're keep us in limiting beliefs about ourselves and about our potential. And this is about you overcoming those fucking demons in your head that are like, well, you need to do more and better and harder and faster, and well it's like no, I'm I'm doing enough. I am enough. Okay, Okay, So, okay, this is
really big. Now. This is also I'm so sorry I hate to say this Todd time, because I feel like it's the biggest joke of this fucking like episode right now and part of my friend I think you hear this anyway, but like literally this card is telling you, like you've got to watch your addictions, okay, and so yes, yes, because you because of your history of your past and stuff, you've got to be really careful with the gambling, okay, because like this could be like right now, we're
kidding about it right now, it's fine. But the double card says, girl, watch yourself okay, okay, yeah, that this could go roll fast real quick, okay, like downhill okay. Yeah, so like have fun, but like maybe limit yourself. You know, to maybe like your frequency, like maybe once a week or something and maybe only with friends, right, so that your friends like you. I won't promise I won't go the minute I show literally in my head going ha, I don't have to
go to squad. The minute I go somewhere by myself, that is a problem. And I won't do that. I will not be doing that. And you know what this is. Actually this makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it actually makes a lot of sense. And so okay, thank you. Yeah. I think this is going to be a really powerful year for you around like overcoming stuff that's held you back, okay, and you being really really empowered and you being like, no, I'm not going to
let anybody have come. Not going to have any fear this year. I've decided ye, none, zero. And that's about sleigh all day. Okay, Okay, yes, I love it, all right, I can't all right, all right now, okay, hmm, all right. Eric's already
doing his little breathing exercise. Okay, okay, So again, you're just gonna kind of like stand up rel tall or set up tall, okay, close your eyes to take a deep breath in, drop down into your heart, connect with your intuition and just ask yourself what is my main theme of twenty twenty four, and then when you pick it, put it down on the table. So oh god, well, no, it's a cool card. Look at that. Come on the Devil and Death. Oh no, we're the devil in death. We're doing a podcast. That's my card.
Really be bags of money or something. Oh my god, Brian is gonna be taking care of you got the scariest car ill No, you stay away from death now your own No, god no. But this is also I mean, yeah, I've heard. So there's a light in the dark to everything, Like even good stuff can be not always good all the time.
Like if you have too much sugar, what ends up happening? You get diabetes, all the things all, yes, yeah, exactly, So like there is definitely so much you know, it's too much of a good thing. So now the death card, as you already said, is about change and it's about transformation. Okay, so we already know that your numerology in the Eastern is in the House of nine, which I already said is about ending's closure, completion, wrapping things up right. This death card is just
an emphasis on this year being about you letting go. Okay, letting go, that's all it's about. Okay, you're not dying. Okay, no one in this room is dying. Well knock on wood hopefully, But like, but no, that's not at all what this means. It can mean that, but that's not how we asked it. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, it's all about the intention in which you and when you're asking the questions. We didn't say, like, you know, is so and so going to die? And then we got the death card? We
right, we should do that, cancel, cancel. So but again it's about transformation and change and letting go. And I was always say earlier it's
our resistance to letting go that generally creates more pain. Right, So it's like when we can kind of like get ahead of that a little bit by being self reflective and taking our own inventory around you know what in my life is not serving me anymore, whether that's people, lifestyle, you know, behaviors, thoughts believes like whatever it is, that's just kind of old and holding me back. Like, this is the time to really let it go,
because out of death comes rebirth, right. So, and I always think like, Okay, what happens when you go on a shopping spree and you haven't cleared out your closet. First, stuff just accumulates the room, right, So then what ends up happening. It gets messy and it's you can't put anything in it. It's crowded, exactly. So you just went out and you spent all this money on this new look that you're like super stoked about, and you have nowhere to put your new stuff, right,
So what we do is we clear out the closet. We get rid of the clutter, whether that's invisible clutter or metaphorical clutter or whatever, and then that's what makes space for the new good stuff in our lives, right, because you can't wear a fresh season of Prada if you've got like ten years ago Prada. Is this ringing true for you? Oh yeah? Really, this is so amazing? Yeah? Oh my sure, okay, yeah right, I think you can bring your I think you can bring your mic.
The cords long enough, so I am just gonna pull the cart and I'll come back here and manage cameras. Okay, gotcha, all right, all right, you have to do the whole breathing thing. You know take this seriously, Brian, Oh I sure hope. So okay, so you're just gonna again definitely do the thing. Close your eyes, play along, drop down into your heart space, connect with your intuition. Good, and then you're just gonna ask what is the main theme for me in twenty twenty four?
Okay, okay, let's see the hair of fan? Oh what what? Okay? So the hair of Fan sounds really scary too, but it is absolutely not. This is card is about traditions and about really asking yourself what traditions still work for you or don't. Are there any traditional viewpoints or methods that you're ascribing to that might actually be limiting you in what again,
what you can accomplish achieve things like that. So, like, for instance, right in our world, there's still this ideal of like two point five kids in a white picket fence house and a dog, and that's what equals like success right in the heteronormative version of nineteen fifties America. Now that's tradition. And so it's this card is really asking you, like, are there
any traditional things that you maybe aren't working for you anymore? Like whether that's like I've got to be a good boy, and I've got to make X amount of dollars and I need to make my mom happy or whatever it is. This also is going to be about you finding like minded people, people that are on the same page as used, people that you can grow with. This could be an organization a group of people, whether that's like in person or like online forums or things like that, but just like getting your
people together. And it's interesting because you're numerology in the Easterns, in the House of two, which is also about support and getting helpers in alignment. So this is going to be a really strong theme for you around like who are your people, Like, who's got your back? Who can you rely on? Who's there to like support you and help you kind of build out the vision from here as well as you know, are we doing this in
the traditional way or in a non traditional, unconventional kind of way. So now, also I think you're you're a Leo, right, I believe so yeah, yeah, because Laura gave me your everybody's birthday beforehand, So Leo is a leader. So this might even be a lot about you kind of coming into your own leadership with a group of people, so kind of like taking on a more powerful position, or taking on one where people kind of are looking to you for guidance or for kind of like a path forward to
that you're all working on something collectively. Director, he wants to be a director. Yeah, that's like, well, I mean but eventually, I mean that, but no, that that's immediately what came to my mind. Yeah that director, people around you, sports system, like the whole thing. Yeah, absolutely, And also like working in a team, right, like towards something important and and and different, important, different and innovative. So what I would say about that? Okay, what what is this?
Even? I've never even heard of this word. It's a spiritual leader? Oh okay, yeah, okay, wow, these are so beautiful whacked? How does that feel? Spiritual leader? I'm going to start a cult, lead those people and make money. It's all coming together. No, that's yeah, yeah, sure, okay, good. Does any of it like ring true to you? I mean, I mean it's it's hard to ring
that true, and it's supposed when it's a perspective for the future. So I'm saying, like, do you do you feel like you're missing a support system of some sort? I mean, because I know your family is across the country. Oh sure, yeah, so maybe you need to hang out with us a little bit more because we're your support system. We're your fans where your parents money could basically be as had like six more Tarot cards then to get me through. I know. Well, oh my gosh, this
was fantastic. And Natalie, if somebody wants to book a session with you, which I highly recommend, oh you will walk in there and she will not know one thing about you, and boom, You're going to be like, how the hell did she know that? How the heck? It's just the coolest experience. So it's Natalie Vail dot com. Yep. And is
that how you book appointments with you? Yes. If you go to my website, there's literally a button that says a book now, and you click on that and it takes you right to the booking page and I am booked about one month out in advance. I've been doing this work a long time, so I've got a lot of clients and it's two hundred fifty dollars for the hour and we will cover all of the things. So I always say, you know, it's better to do it than not to do it.
It's better to know than not to know. And I'm so grateful you guys, thank you so much for having me on the show again. You're so thank you. Okay, you remember the little you do? I do? You do? You do? I sure do. Thank you guys for watching on your Instagram. We appreciate it. Thank you so much for watching on YouTube. Thank you so much. If you're listening to this after the fact, are watching, we really appreciate it. And thank you so much for
all your knowledge and your wisdom and psychic noess. I love it. And you know what else, I love love your podcast. Love your podcast. I love both of you. Oh my god, see he does this all the time. Love your podcast. There we got to shove that death guard down here. Love you, my sweet babies. Bye bye you guys. Bye. Happy New Year, New Year.