When we wrote our book, ADHD Is Awesome , we got to meet a lot of you on tour. Many of you felt seen for the first time and many of you had no idea you had ADHD until you read it and got diagnosed. The majority of you were women. If we had one regret in writing our book, it was that we did not include more about how different ADHD presents in girls and women. But a big reason for that, is that it doesn't exist. There is very little research on how differently ADHD presents in girls and women. So...
Mar 04, 2025•1 hr 5 min•Season 8Ep. 8
This week, we peek behind the curtain about some new starts and life updates... we talk about changes to our podcast (please weigh in about the name!) as well as speaking engagements, streaming shows, and writing a children's book. It was super special to reflect on our favorite children's books in our Top 5 this week as well as Lola's. Knowing that she is going off to college later this year has made us both very emotional. If you have any thoughts on our new projects, drop us a line at podcast...
Feb 25, 2025•37 min•Season 8Ep. 7
Our podcast is a place to laugh, but it's also a safe space to get curious and learn. The rollback of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives have been a hot button issue in our nation. We wanted to dive into understanding DEI and the issues surrounding it, so we invited award-winning entrepreneur and inclusion expert, Donald Thompson, on today's show. Donald is a friend of ours with an extraordinary career creating and leading companies spanning many industries. What we love about Do...
Feb 18, 2025•52 min•Season 8Ep. 6
We're back! We had so much fun last week answering your questions that we decided to make a Part 2. (Welcome to the sequel!) This week, we tackle communication tips, teens growing up, cryptocurrency, and we end the show with our Top 5 worst sequels of all time. Did we miss your question? Send it to us for a future episode and if you missed Part 1 check it out here . Find us on Substack Visit Our Shop Join Our Newsletter Follow us on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Follow us on...
Feb 11, 2025•39 min•Season 8Ep. 5
We love to hear from our listeners, so this week we decided to try something new... we give very unqualified advice to all your questions! We give advice about college, making friends, negative comments, and a very controversial question from "Scooter." (Are you team frontsies or backsies?) Also, we give a life update about a recent trip to Charleston, South Carolina (and a fantasy Kim got to recently live out) as well as the Top 5 worst pieces of advice we've ever gotten. Listen, we only got th...
Feb 04, 2025•56 min•Season 8Ep. 4
When we wrote our book Everybody Fights, So Why Not Get Better At It we talked about magic words in a relationship. There are phrases you can say during discussions or arguments that help bring down the temperature or help each other open up - so couldn't there be the same for our kids? This week, we bring back one of our all-time favorite guests, Dr. Hope Seidel and get her advice about better communication. But we quickly learn (as we always do) that we need to reframe our thinking when it com...
Jan 28, 2025•37 min•Season 8Ep. 3
We’ve done some episodes before about questions for your spouse (especially when we were all quarantining in the pandemic and looking for stuff to do) but this episode goes deeper. In this podcast, we talk to Casey and Meygan Caston, authors of 365 Connecting Questions for Couples . I t’s an entire year of open-ended questions to use (so if you’re trying to grow closer in your relationship, it’s a great resolution for the new year.) After a rocky start to their own marriage, the Castons used pra...
Jan 21, 2025•42 min•Season 8Ep. 2
We're back! During the first weeks of a new year, Kim historically freaks out and copes by setting goals. As for me (Penn) I am not a goal setter. This week, Ann Marie helps us go back in time to last year's New Year Resolutions to see what stuck and what didn't. I also give my Top 5 things I am looking forward to. Thanks for being back with us after two weeks off! PS. Here is Penn's full Wicked parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-puupF7maA Visit Our Shop Join Our Newsletter Follow us on Y...
Jan 14, 2025•42 min•Season 8Ep. 1
Welcome to Part 2 of Behind The Music with Our Team! (If you haven't heard Part 1, you can tune in here .) Every year on the podcast we do a round-up of our favorite moments, but this year we decided to do something a little different. This week we kick off a two-part series "behind the music" with Ann Marie Taepke and Sam Allen , our two of our integral team members. We had so much fun in this podcast, it had to be two parts. In Part Two, we continue with our reflections on 2024 including Ann M...
Dec 24, 2024•31 min•Season 7Ep. 51
Every year on the podcast we do a round-up of our favorite moments, but this year we decided to do something a little different. This week we kick off a two-part series "behind the music" with Ann Marie Taepke and Sam Allen , our two of our integral team members. We had so much fun in this podcast, it had to be two parts. In Part One, we share our favorite videos and the stories behind creating them. We talk about why Kim loved breaking the rules, the fun police, and how being unhinged made this...
Dec 17, 2024•35 min•Season 7Ep. 50
Sometimes I can feel like I can conquer the world, and sometimes I don't want to get out of bed. 93% of time management and productivity books are written by men. (By the way, I love men but women are built different!) There are so many more nuances to women who are looking for help prioritizing and planning. So this week, we have a ladies-only episode where I interview Kendra Adachi, also know as "the Lazy Genius." Kendra is a 3-time New York Times bestselling author, nationally ranked podcaste...
Dec 10, 2024•45 min•Season 7Ep. 49
Last month on the podcast, we played a bunch of Hallmark movie games in our Christmas Will Fix It episode. Penn and I had so much fun that we asked ourselves... should we talk to an actual Hallmark movie writer? Enter Julie Sherman Wolfe! Julie is an award-winning writer and producer who has written 26 MOVIES for Hallmark, including her most recent Holiday Touchdown: A Chiefs Love Story . We had the best time talking to her about her background, the Hallmark movie making process, and (gasp) the ...
Dec 03, 2024•45 min•Season 7Ep. 48
Everyone is about to have Thanksgiving with friends and family, some who may have very different political views than they do. It used to be that you could find something to agree on with those of another political party. Data shows that the political polarization in our country is worst now than ever. How did we get here? How do we fix it? This week we invited data scientist, research consultant, and keynote speaker, Andrea Jones-Rooy, Ph.D. on the show to discuss (she's a stand-up comedian and...
Nov 26, 2024•40 min•Season 7Ep. 47
We experienced our first "last" recently with having a senior in high school. That coupled with some stressful weeks had me living by airport rules. What are airport rules? I am so glad you asked. This week on the podcast, we give life updates and discuss airport rules (and why they should be temporary - like being in an airport.) Penn also shares his top 5 best and worst things at an airport... and it gets personal. Shop our 2024 Gift Guides Get Family Faceoff game Get What The Flock game Join ...
Nov 19, 2024•41 min•Season 7Ep. 46
Throughout my life (especially during COVID) I have learned that when life gets heavy, my defense mechanism is Christmas. Something about burying yourself in holiday cheer makes everything better. It has taken a long time for Penn to understand and embrace my need for Christmas. As soon as Halloween ends, Christmas begins. This week we invite our producer Ann Marie Taepke onto the show for some laughs. We play some games around Hallmark movies, decide what the best Thanksgiving side is, and Penn...
Nov 12, 2024•43 min•Season 7Ep. 45
We are releasing this podcast on Election Day 2024, because we need some political therapy. Over the past couple presidential elections, the stakes are feeling higher and higher. I personally don't believe our bodies were made to handle all the constant information and stress in American politics. (Don't you remember when politics used to be boring?) This week we invited back Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers from the top-rated podcast, Pantsuit Politics , to discuss the state of our nation...
Nov 05, 2024•41 min•Season 7Ep. 44
When Penn and I were on The Amazing Race , they took away our phones, tablets, laptops… anything we could use to access the outside world or the internet. If we had a question, we couldn’t Google it to get the answer like we can now. We had to wonder. I remember when we got back I told everyone I wasn’t going to be on my phone as much as a result. (That lasted probably one week.) Our phones are amazing pieces of technology, but is having so much at our fingertips good for us? This week, we had C...
Oct 29, 2024•49 min•Season 7Ep. 43
This week is a very special episode to celebrate the fact that... PENN IS 50! Cue Sally O'Malley! (Those of you who are old enough get the reference.) To commemorate the occasion, Penn shares a bunch of lists with me: Things that mean a lot more at 50, thing that mean a lot less at 50, things he is cranky about at 50, and goals for the next 50! (Yay, goals... my favorite!) We also end the episode with some roasts from Taylor Calmus of Dude Dad , Myles Montplaisir of You Betcha , comedian Charlie...
Oct 22, 2024•40 min•Season 7Ep. 42
The last two weeks have been a lot in the Holderness house. First, Hurricane Helene has devastated the western part of North Carolina, where some of Penn's family still lives. So many people lost their lives and whole towns were wiped out. Before we could even wrap our minds around it, Hurricane Milton was barreling towards my hometown in Florida. Enter an ill-timed panic attack. This week we talk about how to have grace for someone living with anxiety, what professions we would have been if we ...
Oct 15, 2024•44 min•Season 7Ep. 41
Earlier this year, we were invited to join Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden on their podcast “ Really, No Really” to promote our new book, ADHD Is Awesome. It was an amazing experience, and the whole time I was in awe of their friendship. Jason and Peter have been best friends for decades, and it's apparent that they admire and care about each other deeply. So we invited them on the show to talk about the secret to building strong male friendships. Penn and I fall into gender stereotypes when it...
Oct 08, 2024•47 min•Season 7Ep. 40
When we wrote our book, ADHD Is Awesome , one of the areas we wanted to cover more was the under-diagnosis of ADHD amongst minority populations. White children get diagnosed with ADHD at a rate of 11.5% while Black children get diagnosed at a rate of 8.9%. Additionally, studies have shown that Black children with symptoms of ADHD are treated more negatively by teachers and other adults. This week, we talk to Dr. Damon Tweedy , a professor of psychiatry at Duke University School of Medicine (and ...
Oct 01, 2024•42 min•Season 7Ep. 39
It's been a while since we've done a Q&A podcast. The world is very serious right now and while it is important to engage in that seriousness, sometimes you need a diversion. So this is some cotton candy for your brain, and a big thank you to everyone who sent in questions for the show. We answer personal questions, questions around The Amazing Race, and some just for fun! Stick around for a special Top 5 from our producer, Ann Marie, and the most unhinged close to a podcast ever. (Sorry for...
Sep 24, 2024•40 min•Season 7Ep. 38
Penn and I have had a lot of funny moments in our marriage that are signposts we are getting older. (Personally I feel like I've been "middle-aged" since age 12...) So we decided to ask YOU to help complete the sentence: "You know you're middle-aged when..." and you did not disappoint. The most middle-aged thing to happen during the making of this podcast? Penn having a back issue so bad he had to join us horizontally from our very firm IKEA couch. (You know you're almost 50 when...) Are you mid...
Sep 17, 2024•44 min•Season 7Ep. 37
Over the last couple of years, the political climate has gotten contentious. That sentiment has caused people to shy away from discussing politics and government with their children. Despite that, teens still think it’s important to follow current events, politics included. A recent survey of teens aged 13–17 found that 1/3 of respondents relied on their parents, family members, or teachers for information. We need to do the work to help guide them and make them feel safe talking to us. This wee...
Sep 10, 2024•38 min•Season 7Ep. 36
Recently, I’ve been craving a project. With Lola starting her senior year of high school, I feel like maybe this craving is just a distraction (but, still a craving nonetheless!) There’s something about losing myself in organizing a closet that is therapeutic. So this week, we bring our favorite organizational friends, Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin of The Home Edit, on our podcast. Clea and Joanna have two new books out now. They have a children’s book and a teen book both about organization, s...
Sep 03, 2024•41 min•Season 7Ep. 35
Somehow, Penn and I will have been married for 20 years next year (what?!) It's an incredible feat, but with experiencing such a busy season of parenting, I can see how couples fall out of "like" with each other. This week, we give each of our own Top 5 tips on how to stay in like. Our producer, Ann Marie Taepke, also joins to play a fun game we call "Then" where we (you guessed it) get way too competitive. Very important: Tell us whether you think a Frosty is a milkshake or not and if Penn look...
Aug 27, 2024•42 min•Season 7Ep. 34
I am having mixed feelings about having a kid going into her senior year of high school. The biggest feeling I have is excitement for her - closing one chapter and about to open the next. But big changes bring big feelings. This week, Penn and I talk about my senior year goals and your best advice (thank you for writing in on Instagram and leaving us voicemails!) Additionally, Penn comes up with four Top 5 Lists about senior year songs, movies, and a few others that made us giggle. (Don't forget...
Aug 20, 2024•35 min•Season 7Ep. 33
Penn has never been prouder of Team USA than this Olympics. He has watched every Olympics Games since 1984 and he watches everything – racewalking, speed climbing, archery, you name it. He says that regardless of medals, Paris 2024 is the best that Team USA has ever been. These kids (I’ll say kids, because most are young enough to be my children) have been extraordinary role models for our country. Today we talk about five life lessons we've learned from Team USA that can apply to anyone. We als...
Aug 12, 2024•36 min•Season 7Ep. 32
When life turns out differently, it’s all about how you perceive it. For our friend, Raquel Moore (who you may remember from our season of The Amazing Race) life has turned out very differently than she expected. She never thought she’d meet the love of her life. She never thought she’d live in the suburbs of Cleveland. She never thought she’d be a mother to a wonderful little boy, Nico, who has a rare genetic disorder called FOXG1 Syndrome. We asked Raquel to come on the show to talk more about...
Aug 06, 2024•45 min•Season 7Ep. 31
The 2024 Olympics have started! Today, we talk to our friend, Olympic Silver Medalist, and a U.S. pole vault record holder, Sandi Morris . Sandi barely missed going to the games in Paris this year (she placed 4th in qualifying) but she isn't letting that stop her. She offers words of encouragement on how to keep going and stay positive when you're doing something you love. (We're in awe of her mental and physical toughness.) You can learn more about Sandi and her journey here: https://www.sandim...
Jul 30, 2024•34 min•Season 7Ep. 30
