If you’ve been following along, you know Penn recently found out he has two copies of the APOE4 gene - basically the “high risk” genetic lottery for Alzheimer’s. And while we thought we were prepared for that news… we weren’t. It hit hard. For both of us. But this episode is not about fear. It’s about hope. This week we are sitting down (again!) with Dr. Richard Isaacson (the brain behind Penn’s prevention plan and one of the leading voices in Alzheimer’s prevention) to answer YOUR questions. An...
May 05, 2026•57 min•Season 10Ep. 17
If there were ever a masterclass in being a good human… this is it. In this episode, Penn and I sit down with Jen Hamilton and y’all… She is exactly who you hope she is. Warm, hilarious, wildly honest, and the kind of person who makes you want to be better just by being in the same room. We talk about her new book Birth Vibes and cover what really happens in a delivery room. Jen has a gift of making the most awkward, messy, human moments feel normal, safe, and… dare we say, funny. But what makes...
Apr 28, 2026•45 min•Season 10Ep. 16
I have a confession: I spent most of the 90s singing along to songs without having any idea what they were actually about. So this week on Laugh Lines, we go down a full nostalgia rabbit hole: CD booklets, radio station shoutouts, and the absolute shock of realizing some of our favorite 90s “bops” were not exactly PG. (How did we miss that?!) We take some calls from the Laugh Line. I share more about my ADHD diagnosis and how it’s shifted the way I understand my brain and my emotions. And then (...
Apr 21, 2026•47 min•Season 10Ep. 15
This episode of Laugh Lines stayed with me in the best way. This week, Penn and I sit down with Tanner Smith from Love on the Spectrum , and what starts as an interview quickly turns into something so much more meaningful. Tanner shares what it’s like to live on the autism spectrum in a way that’s honest, empowering, and incredibly hopeful. He reminds us that autism looks different for everyone. It can mean learning differently, needing more time, having deep passions, and even living a full, jo...
Apr 14, 2026•36 min•Season 10Ep. 14
This week, Penn and I share some real-life updates from our house. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at 50, which turns out… there were signs. I’m learning what that actually means for my brain, my emotions, and honestly, my entire life up to this point. (Something called “doom piles” should have honestly exposed my ADHD years ago.) Penn also shares an update on his journey to protect his brain health from Alzheimer’s. We talk about what he’s trying, what we’re learning, and how we’re thinking ...
Apr 07, 2026•44 min•Season 10Ep. 13
There are some conversations that feel like a warm hug. They make you laugh, feel safe, and a little like you want to cry. Today's show is all of the above. This week on Laugh Lines , we sit down with New York Times bestselling author, podcast host, and Duke University professor, Kate Bowler. (And I’m just going to say it... I would like to formally submit my application to be her best friend.) Kate’s new book, Joyful Anyway , asks a question that stopped me in my tracks: What if joy isn’t somet...
Mar 31, 2026•52 min•Season 10Ep. 12
My favorite human is turning 50! If you know my wife, Kim, you know she is very self-deprecating and adorable about getting older. Kim thought 50 might feel like a big, Oprah-level moment. (Like angels singing... all-knowing wisdom... maybe a sudden ability to fold a fitted sheet.) Instead, it’s been a mix of gratitude, a little existential panic, and a lot of honest questions like: Is this what 50 is supposed to feel like? In this episode, we look back at what Kim thought 50 would be (Golden Gi...
Mar 24, 2026•41 min•Season 10Ep. 11
If you’re celebrating the rare night when you don’t have to get up to go to the bathroom… welcome. You are among friends. Sleep is one of my favorite topics. Penn and I often joke that I don't have FOMO (Fear of missing out) I have FOMS (Fear of missing sleep). As much as I love sleep, I also struggle with it. So this week, we invited Dr. Christopher J. Allen (also known as "Sleep Dr. Chris") to help us figure out why sleep gets harder as we age and what we can actually do about it. In this epis...
Mar 17, 2026•53 min•Season 10Ep. 10
Last week I shared that I was diagnosed with ADHD at 49. It was a big moment for me, and judging from your messages (thank you for those!) it resonated with a lot of you too. So this week, Penn and I continuing the conversation with someone we absolutely adore, ADHD expert Dr. Tamara Rosier. In this episode we dig into something that doesn’t get talked about nearly enough... the emotional side of ADHD. Why do ADHDers feel things so big? Why can small moments feel overwhelming? Why do shame, perf...
Mar 10, 2026•58 min•Season 10Ep. 9
For years, I’ve stood on stages and said, “Hi, I’m Kim. I don’t have ADHD, but I love and support people who do.” Penn and I wrote books, made videos, and chatted on podcasts about it. I’ve given advice about how I partner with my ADHD husband and parent my ADHD son. And then (at almost 50 years old) after an extensive evaluation process and a lot of hard conversations, it turns out... I have ADHD too. Surprise. In this episode, we talk about my journey, why the signs were always there, and how ...
Mar 03, 2026•46 min•Season 10Ep. 8
This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with former North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper to talk about bridging divides in a world that feels angrier by the minute. And yes, we know - politics can feel exhausting. But this conversation felt different. It felt human. It felt hopeful. It made us smile. Governor Cooper shares why he believes we are not as divided as social media makes us think, what it takes to work across party lines, and how faith has shaped his life of public service. We als...
Feb 24, 2026•50 min•Season 10Ep. 7
If you’ve ever thought, “I'm showing love to my partner, so why don’t they feel it?” This episode is for you. This week on Laugh Lines, we’re talking to the actual human who gave us the phrase “love language.” Yes. The one, the only... Dr. Gary Chapman. Dr. Chapman is the man behind the famous book, The Five Love Languages . He joins us to talk about what happens when you and your person are speaking completely different love languages, and why dialect of a love language is also important. 'Acts...
Feb 17, 2026•54 min•Season 10Ep. 6
This week on Laugh Lines , Penn and I talk about something that sneaks up on a lot of us in midlife: friendship, purpose, and the quiet fear of wondering if we still matter the way we used to. We’re joined by New York Times bestselling author Jennifer Wallace (straight from Oprah to Laugh Lines!) who explores why feeling seen, needed, and valued isn’t just nice... it’s essential to our well-being. The three of us dig into what “mattering” really means, why so many adults feel lonelier than they ...
Feb 10, 2026•59 min•Season 10Ep. 5
The world feels heavy and instead of trying to joke our way around that, this episode is about sitting with it. This week, Penn and I talk about how a post we made about hope turned into a political statement, the process behind the scenes, and how we're feeling. We are very lucky to have a fun job, but it doesn't mean it's not challenging in times like these. Sometimes it's hard to make comedy when you want to cry. We know you came for the humor, we hope you'll stay for the humanity. Penn and I...
Feb 03, 2026•40 min•Season 10Ep. 4
This week calls for a hug and cookie cake that says “Happy Birthday” (even though it’s nobody’s birthday... more on this in the show.) If you’re feeling worn down, overwhelmed, or just need a break from everything feeling so heavy, this episode is for you. We’re talking about the little things that make us laugh when the world feels like too much. Snow day chaos. January being the longest Monday of the year. Dogs in slow motion. Buying dessert for no reason. Letting your spouse be a dancing bear...
Jan 27, 2026•43 min•Season 10Ep. 3
What do collagen powders, weighted vests, parasite cleanses, and protein bars all have in common? (According to our favorite no-nonsense doctor, probably a lot less science than TikTok would like you to believe.) This week on Laugh Lines, we’re welcoming back the wonderfully persnickety Dr. Eric Topol to help us debunk the health trends that keep popping up in our feeds (and in our shopping carts.) After our last conversation, we were flooded with listener emails, voicemails, and questions, so t...
Jan 20, 2026•1 hr 4 min•Season 10Ep. 2
Happy 2026, we're back! It’s a new year, but instead of "new year, new me" I am going with "new year, slightly improved me." Mostly because I stopped caring... well, that's not true (but more on that in the podcast.) In this episode of Laugh Lines, we’re easing back into the groove of things with medium energy, big feelings, and some good laughs. We talk about the emotional whiplash of having a college kid home and then watching them leave again, the surprisingly effective wake-up call of a dog ...
Jan 13, 2026•45 min•Season 10Ep. 1
If you ever rode rear-facing in a station wagon or took a “fart walk” to survive the holidays… welcome home. This week, we’re wrapping up 2025 by revisiting the moments that made us laugh hardest, cry a little, and feel deeply connected to you this past year. (Thank you for your voicemails and emails into the show. Our listeners are the heart of Laugh Lines and we cannot wait to keep it going in 2026!) This episode is a love letter to the Laugh Lines community. We’re checking back in with some o...
Dec 23, 2025•45 min•Season 9Ep. 36
When our daughter went off to college, I expected that she would change and she has. In a completely amazing, independent way. What I didn't expect is that we would change too. Now, she's home for holiday break and we're both navigating this changing relationship with no roadmap. (Time to call in an expert for some advice!) This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I are joined by one of our favorite humans and parenting expert, Dr. Lisa Damour. She helps us navigate this weird, wonderful in-between th...
Dec 16, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Season 9Ep. 35
If you’re here for a perfectly curated tablescape, a stunning holiday gift guide, or expert tips on how to make your mantle look like the cover of a magazine… sweet friend, this is not that podcast. Welcome to the season of doing less, and honestly? It feels amazing. This week, I’m declaring a personal holiday revolution: I am officially going medium. No more crying on Christmas Eve because I tried to hand-bake, hand-tie, hand-craft, and hand-everything my way into the “perfect” holiday. Penn an...
Dec 09, 2025•51 min•Season 9Ep. 34
What do you get when a man hears a podcast, has an epiphany in his garage, and decides to educate millions of guys on TikTok about menopause? You get Jesse Robertson (the creator behind Husbands for Menopause) and one of our favorite conversations ever. This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with Jesse to talk about how he started spiraling (in a good way!) into understanding menopause, better supporting his wife, and educating millions of men. Our conversation digs into why men absolutel...
Dec 02, 2025•1 hr•Season 9Ep. 33
It’s Thanksgiving week, which means two things: delicious food and at least one unhinged opinion... or several. Here's the deal, the estrogen has left my body and my perimenopause is gonna tell it like it is. Penn and I dive headfirst into all things turkey season, like why I start Christmas music in November, whether turkey is actually just a gravy delivery system, and why perimenopause isn't so bad. We revisit the USPS uniform - thanks to an absolutely iconic voicemail from a mail carrier name...
Nov 25, 2025•45 min•Season 9Ep. 32
Even though I do miss the collagen in my neck, you couldn’t pay me to be 25 again. (As it turns out, aging is pretty awesome!) This week Penn and I are talking about the things we’d never want to relive from our twenties and the surprising joys of getting older... including reading your comments! Thank you for sharing some truly unfiltered thoughts about thongs, weddings, and Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Before we get into the meat of show, Penn issues a formal apology (or seven) to our new favorite list...
Nov 18, 2025•50 min•Season 9Ep. 31
What’s the secret to living longer and better? (Spoiler: It’s not a cold plunge or protein popcorn.) In this episode, we sit down with the brilliant Dr. Eric Topol — cardiologist, scientist, and author of Super Agers — to separate fact from fiction in the world of longevity. We learn that blood tests are getting really good, GLP-1 drugs show real promise, and to always call Dr. Topol before you buy something TikTok tells you to. We cover everything from protein myths, weighted vests, and saunas ...
Nov 11, 2025•1 hr 3 min•Season 9Ep. 30
What do Whitney Houston and alien overlords have in common? This podcast! This week, we are diving deep into important topics from the Laugh Line: how to make new friends in your 40s, keeping marriage steady when life gets messy, and the latest wellness hacks we may—or may not—regret trying (Looking at you to give me feedback on neurofeedback!) Also, Penn and I venture into some pop culture in our "You Heard It Here First… Except for the Fact That by the Time You’re Hearing This, the Event Is Ov...
Nov 04, 2025•45 min•Season 9Ep. 29
On our recent book tour, we met so many amazing tweens and teens who surprised us by saying they listen to this podcast. (Yes, this one! The one about aging knees, perimenopause, and remembering dial-up internet.) Somewhere between the hugs and deep conversations, it hit us: We might actually be their Golden Girls. I loved watching the Golden Girls growing up, so we've decided to embrace it. In this episode, we share a love letter to our younger selves — advice we wish we’d known in our teens, 2...
Oct 28, 2025•52 min•Season 9Ep. 28
Sometimes the best therapy is laughing with people who truly get it. This week, we sit down with comedian Dustin Nickerson and his wife Melissa to compare notes on our parallel lives (and to remember to hit the record button this time... more on that in the show.) From forgetting luggage to forgetting pictures of kids, we swap stories about ADHD marriage dynamics, youth sports, and the emotional rollercoaster of sending your first kid to college. Plus, we play “Bring It Back or Pass” to debate t...
Oct 21, 2025•50 min•Season 9Ep. 27
It’s here! We’re celebrating the release of our very first children’s book, All You Can Be with ADHD , with an episode families can enjoy together! When we set out to write All You Can Be with ADHD , our goal was simple: To help kids feel proud of how their brains work. We wanted them to see their energy, focus, imagination, and even their distractions as strengths — not shortcomings. Sure, ADHD can bring challenges but it’s got some pretty cool stuff too! In this episode, we read a few pages fr...
Oct 14, 2025•40 min•Season 9Ep. 26
Have you ever been on a wellness journey and gotten BURSITIS?! In this week’s episode of Laugh Lines, we discuss how my need to be more active led to a very glamorous new diagnosis. (Yep, I’ve officially reached the age where I ice my hips during a podcast recording… and then find out I can get frostbite.) Penn and I recap our emotional rollercoaster of a Parents Weekend—seeing our daughter thriving at college, resisting the urge to cry in front of her, and maybe hosting a parents’ night that fe...
Oct 07, 2025•55 min•Season 9Ep. 25
If Broadway had a heartbeat, Alex Lacamoire might be it. You probably know him as the Grammy, Emmy, and Tony Award-winning musical genius behind Hamilton, Dear Evan Hansen, In the Heights , and The Greatest Showman . This week, we are beyond grateful to welcome him to Laugh Lines! Penn and I are lucky enough to call Alex and his wife, Ileana, our friends. In this episode, we go behind the scenes of his journey—from a Miami kid with a hand-me-down piano to a Broadway legend. We talk about how he ...
Sep 30, 2025•51 min•Season 9Ep. 24
