Y’all Keep Giving These Cowards Badges and Guns!

You think you want to revisit, so your first take a list of your folks like it? Slip oh folks that we take it. Can't no kiss do what you don't? No kiss do what you do? Can't no kiss do what I do? No? Good morning, Welcome, Hello, good morning. I know what's happy? I just got out for plane. We're gonna blame somebody, let's blame me. Come on you, it's something like eight minutes. It's okay, only eight minutes. We're black. You can't be late when you're black. Am

I lying? I didn't say anything. Hello. Welcome, ladies and gentle want to laugh and learn with Flame Monroe, Nick Smith and Lauren Hogan. I'm sorry, we're a little bit late. My plane was delayed about eight minutes, but I got ready and about four for real. So this is it was pretty impressive too. I gotta give it to you. It was. It wasn't good, Lauren, it was pretty impressive. My head the right way. What wig is this? What are we calling this? This is my sharing stone? Uh

not sharing stone, sharing Osborne. So I'm giving out my sharing Osboro shore underwood wig just in case to talk me to replacement. Get sharing with a tan and a penis. Yes, Hello flay mats, Welcome to laugh and learn. Hello Lauren Hogan. Hello, Hello. I know Nick is coming in, but I just came in from Chicago. You all went home to some stuff made, and Chill came home to hell. So I had to come home and cuss my kids out because they did not keep my house clean while I was going. So

I came in acting very black. Then I had to leave for about thirty minutes, and then I came back and when Lauren came up, Say asked who was playing on the radio, y'landa adam. That's when I knew something was wrong. Y'all. She was going to church, and I said, oh, Lord was in the midst of it all, and the battle was not about to be the Lord's. It was about to be man because I was about to funk

all three of my kids up. Let me just be real honest with y'all this morning, since I just got that Southwest playing Good Morning, Flames, Well, how triple hello kids? Though I cameraman, this kiddo was here, I produced a triple was here? Where is Nick? Nick is not here? Yes, let's bring Nick in everyone. Well, anyway, Nick, how was your weekend? My weekend was good, you know, Lauren. I spent the day running around today, don't laugh. Flame and

I had this talk. It looks like I'm going to be here and Arkansas a little bit longer than I had thought. Uh so I've been spending time kind of running around looking for a car. So that that's what my morning was today. What do you mean You're gonna mean in Arkansas longer than you thought? I thought you lived there permanently, because you want to tell us something, No, I've only been here. I've only been here a year. So yeah, so so it looks like I thought it

would only be a year. But COVID had other plans, and uh, I happened to be addicted to gainful employment, so flame flame flame. His favorite adages when you don't know what to do, Nicholas, just sit still, Just sit still.

So that's kind of like that. And then I went to d C this weekend, Lauren, and I'm gonna tell you I thought about you because you and I were talking about King and I paid a visit to the King Memorial and all that, but you and I have just talked about how uh you know, his legacy still rings to Atlanta, and I know how much time you spent there. So it's just one of those things you just feel connected whenever you get a chance to visit,

you know, the monument and all that. So definitely, yeah, I definitely would just make this recommendation if anybody's trying to see all the monuments at one time, just get on a little scooter. Trust me, It'll save your life because I'm I know better. I took a scooter and only cost me about twenty three dollars and I was all going all around the monuments for about four hours. So absolutely it's the most effective way to do it, for sure. So and I believe flame you have some

big news to announce. Correct. We couldn't do it last week, we can do it this week. What's the big Oh? Yeah, I came home and cuss my kids out. That big no. But it does pertain to one of your kids though, the same one three I was proud of last week when I came home today when I got there plane and walked to my house and my house wasn't clean. Oh, I showed up like Betty Wright that I was the clean up woman. I cussed my kids out. I'm telling

you all the game, I'm not parents. I'm the regular parent. But on the side of that, let's go here that last week we were doing Laugh and Learned, and when we get off the live, the mailman had runs. I wanted got the mail. It was a letter from Tennessee State University for my sons. I was like, well, what is this. I wanted to open it, but it was not addressed to me, and you know it's illegal to open somebody else mail as if I give a damn. But then I was being courteous. I said, dude, you

gotta letter. He said, well, I know what that is. That's my acceptance letter. I'm like acceptance letter where you got accepted. Oh, they emailed me Friday, but he didn't tell me. Yeah, Okay, this is the house I live in, y'all, not the house that Jack built, the house that the training build. So saying all that to say Barbara, well I should say JaMarcus aka Barbara got into Tennessee State University on a full ride on a full ride turn on his college because he is graduating from high school

with his associates degree. I'm bragging and I'm petting myself on the back, and that that that player too, even though I'm furious with all three of the asses right now. So very exciting news for sure. I'd like to just kind of jump on that because I think it's it's beyond that. I think it's absolutely fantastic. And this is once again flame. I've said it before. Yes, I grew up envious of friends of mine who had both parents

in the home. I didn't have that. There's something to be said for the strength of a single parent who gives unconditional support. I love my mother so much because my mother never allowed me to question what was possible, and I love that you continue to push all three of them the exact same way. Flame. You can be a lot, but you have never had anyone question your love and your support to your children, and that is evidenced in jamacus. I got to thank you, but I

got two discrepancies with your statement. First of all, Lord, can I be a lot? Huh? And secondly, why did you say you said um a single parent in the home. Technically it's two of us here. She came through the door, and because they asked it out, but he was ready to get the belt and be some bass. I'm just saying he she, we lives. He she we walked through the door this morning. Ready these kids up. Let me just be honest with y'all. I'vein't gone for four days.

I hustle. I don't even expect much for my children, but they will keep my house. Claim when I'm gonna I will take all apparatus and cell phones, computers, credit cards and everything else. And y'all asked to go black. Y'all live in the seventies for real, like you, you better go play some stickball. I thought, I thought doctor Spock and Oprah said that the correct thing to do his time out. You talk to your children because you're you're angry with yourself, You're not angry with them. It's

only dirt. That's a joke, right, It did not laying that, Joe, get lay flat panpan. I need you to stick the news hunting. Speaking of telling jokes, I got on stage for the very first time in more than a year this past Friday at Club Riddles in Chicago, and it was just all right. It wasn't great. I'm sorry faster I could not bring y'all on the lab. But the club was tripping real hard. It was only like twenty four people in the damn club too, but they would

not let us go laugh. So that's the reason I didn't go, I know, y'all. And then then then I went dark because I was on something else. I wasn't telling jokes, but I was definitely making somebody laugh. Business it was. It was. It was some other beauties. It was some very personal business. But wasn't not like that.

Get back on stage. It felt weird. It felt like I had to step outside myself and pushed myself to get on stage because I hadn't done it, and I'm so used to coming to y'all now on here, and I couldn't find my footing for like the first three and a half minutes because the audience was a little through off of me. But then they came around and it got better, so it was good. And I started with the person who I started doing comedy with, who's

Damian Williams from Chicago. So I went to his club and just showed up and worked with Coco from The Choice and she was great. Okay, let's get to topics. Enough about me when I'm talking about my look huge, So wait a minute. One of the things as we moved into transitioning I'm interested in here in flame, Matt sound off about this as we continue to talk about other things, because we have five really good topics to

jump into today. But one of the things I noticed swallows in d C over the last four or five days is that there are a great number of people eating outdoors, and I think that what it reminded me of. And the weather wasn't the best the entire time. It's not California, and I stopped there and I posted this question on Instagram last week and opinions were all over

the place. But I've never been a fan of eating outdoors like I'm I'm aware of that I've never enjoyed the al fresco, fighting with the elements, sound, streets, bugs, whatever, But it seems to be friends mind there, said Nick. I think this is the new normal. I think you need to expect that everything will be outside now, that people won't be comfortable going inside restaurants. And I'm just interested to know how you all fail. Do you prefer to eat inside or outside or do you care? I

love a good rooftop situation. And I don't know maybe because honestly, like that's really a thing in New York, like for instance, like if you talk to like people that are from New York, even like my mom, like rooftops, outside parties, eating all of that. That's been like a thing in New York. I mean in California too, So I don't know. Maybe it's just something that's popular among my generation. But I love eating outside. You know, it's fun.

You know, you get some ventilation sometimes when you're inside and in closed spaces you may get hot, different things like that. I like eating outdoors and hanging out outside. It's it's fun for me. I'm not I'm not afraid of it because I don't like flies. No, seriously, I really have a pet peeve about Flask, Like if a flag on me, I'm disgusted because it is a horrible beast and if they could kill us, they would. I'm

trying to fix this head yet my face. But I don't like to eat outside because I want to share my lunch with Flaws and if they didn't help pay for it, they can't eat with me. So that's but I do, I mean, I do think that. But you know what, it must be something with Beverly Hills, because like last year when I had a birthday party at Commons House and we said, I'm said, no Flaws and he didn't have any of the But so the flawers must be trained not to come to Beverly Hills. They

will not come to nine o two one. Oh, So maybe we should get rich. I don't know. Just about nine two one, I'm wondering, where are you going to eat where you got flies galore? What is the restaurant's healthy department rating? Were not indoors outside? That's what I'm saying. What's the what's the rest of the restaurant's department of health? But I think, because I think part of my issue too, is like l A is just fealthy, right, and I way hold on back on l A San Francisco, you

know what I'm saying there. So you you're competing with the cars and the Jersey barriers and the smells, and are housing insecure possibly, you know, And and it's just there are a lot of things happening to distract from the meal. I think when you're outside, or that's been my experience, particularly when you're offer like mail rolls in those areas, you know. But I'm not one of those people like you know, like people you're eating and you

see something disgusting and turn your appetite off. Baby, I'm not putting it in my mouth, So it ain't gonna turn my appetite. And if I paid for my meal, I'm gonna continue eating. I don't give a damn. Don't come over here with that, Lauren. Where are we going this morning? Um? Honestly, we got a lot of things to talk about. We have, we have a topic to start with. I think we can still start there, but as you I'm sure, no, Nick, We're going to add

something else that has to be discussed. Yeah, So, um, we can honestly, let's start the Black Army officer that was pep pepper sprayed in the traffic stop. And there's been some new developments around that two hours of this morning, which is great for me because we remember last week when I told you all that they called me about my son joining the military, and I said, absolutely not. And this black man has shown he was a lieutenant right and they have disrespected him. And he was so cordial,

very professional. He was articulated in his speech. He kept a calm, cool temperature. He really tried to de escalate that situation. I watched that on the plane, and I'm telling you I've watched it three times to watch this man really tried to control the narrative of the situation. He never was hostile, he never changed his tone and his voice. And this officer was just determined to do something. Have something happened. He sprayed. The man man lost his job.

He's gonna sue his ass. I wish he would have put that. I keep telling y'all, they keep giving these police officer, these cowboys keep getting guns and pepper spray and tastes and pass this stawed taking their pensions. Him getting fired is not enough for because all he gonna do is go up the street and get another damn job as a police officers somewhere else snatched that nigga's pension. When you put your hand in somebody's pocket, you make

them pay attention to what you're saying. Is talking about Second Lieutenant Caron Nazario. He was in uniform being pepper sprayed and forcibly removed from his vehicle and put to the ground. And that video one viral last week. The incident actually happened in December, after traffic stop. He was in uniform and the officer which again uh, the officer

has since been released from his job. But I also think flame just because you touched on that, I think this is also a testament to his training, and I think that that is just another additional value I think of the military is how he was able to stay calm in that situation. You you laud at his professionalism in that moment, and I do think that that helped even a horrible situation, at least he served you know

that he was able to survive. I think the the weight of that situation falls on the officers that I believe acted inappropriately. But I think that the officer is to be commended for the way he handled the situation. I'm not gonna just give the military a pass on saying that he was he got that tolerance from the military. I'm gonna say that he was trained by his parents. Whoever raised him taught him that. The military, who teaches you discipline, it also teaches you how to be ready

and on time and respectful. But I'm gonna say that that timperment, that coolman that he had, not only did he have the black talk from whatever house he was raised up in, which we have all had the black talk. If you don't know what the black talking is on this page, I ain't gonna explain it to you. Google it. If you ain't had the black talk. Somebody gave him the black He knew how to handle that situation. I do believe that he learned some tactics in the military,

But I ain't given the military ship. The military have not respected the veterans. I did ain't even about the black men, veterans period, veterans in this country who have stood up and fought on the front line, lost Lamb's arms and some of them that damn mind. Some of these people are still alive, but they don't even know who they are, and the military does not not Just just to let you know, that's not a reflection on the military flight. That's a reflection on society at large

that does not value military service. That's a reflection on military nicklace. Because don't they have the v A. The v A is a part of the military, and the Veterans Administration is a Vetterans Administration as a government agency, as a federal agency, is not part of the military. What is the military is the military government. The military is a branch as another Armed services is definitely part

of the federal government. Right whatever. But what I'm saying is I thought you were yes, got you don't get off topic, come out. No, I'm just saying that I think that we have to commend because I think they love the military and military I just don't I just don't think that they deserve blame in this situation. I was saying, I think that, like all of us, where some of all of our parts right, And I think that I wanted to just applaud the way he handled that.

I thought that he was to be commended. I did not think he was a lieutenant. Yes, I definitely not definitely not a fault. He was all I wanted to say. He was. He wanted to get home. Now, that was a point you definitely made. He wanted to get home to his family. But but while we got to kiss ass, why we gotta make why I gotta be apologetic when I haven't even done anything wrong. The officer never even said why he pulled him over, and he kept saying, I asked you three times, why did you pull me up?

He DEVI gave him. This is what I'm talking about. They didn't. He didn't give a funk. He had a gun and a badge, and it was gonna be okay. If if this guy would have given him any aggression. And you know that we speak aggressively, I speak aggressively. He at least he was schooled enough to know that because he got home to his family. Now the guy lost his job, but he gonna get another job. And I hope they sue his ass. I hope they's what city was that, Norfolk, Virginia. I hope they cleaned his

and I hope he cleaned the police station out. Well to both of you guys points, I think that he definitely knew what to do because he drove I think, like another half a mile into a very well at gas station, which I think he was a smart to do because had this been outside on the you know, the side of the road, it was dark. Virginia doesn't really have a lot of lights. If you've been to Virginia, it's not a well lit area where he was. So I'm glad that he was able to go to this

gas station. I'm glad that they have the footage so they can see what this officer was doing. And at the end of the day, it's just, you know, this is why I totally agree with Flame in terms of you want these young black men to go and serve your country, but when you come back to this country, you're not given the slightest bit of respect at all. So I just, um, it's sad to see another case

of this, another incident. And I also saw another report that's saying since the beginning of there's been at least two hundred traffic involved stops among black people of or people of color rather where it's been an officer involved shooting. And it's only April it's been two hundred of these.

So and Nicholas, you have that temperament you do you you because Rogette, I know your mama talked to you, and since she gave you to talk about you know how to because I saw you when we had that all occation with that guy, remember when we did the show. But that wouldn't have been me. See and see, I'm not that person. And if the officer would have got disrespectful and loud, guess what I was gonna do. I

was gonna get disrespectful and loud. And I'm not not thinking even though my grown manness or grown person, this need to jump in and say you need to get home to your kids. Just calming down. But the officer was aggressive. He didn't want he wanted to be challenged. He was pushing it to be challenged. I thought the officer was unnecessarily aggressive. When when we saw Lieutenant Azario put his hands out the window, He's talking to him calmly.

He drove slowly, Lauren. We you know we talked about that. He drove slowly to the fire, to the gas station, like I'm not trying to get away, I'm just getting to a wellded area. I just want hey, I want to know what's going on. Hands are out the window, can you tell me what's going on, and he's just yelling at him, and and and I don't know. I

just felt like that was completely unnecessary. Well, this is a setup too, because the officer was saying, keep your hands out the window where I I can see you, but take your seat built off and step out the car. So if he puts his hand back in the car, does that give you license to, now what, shoot him? Because you felt like my life was in danger, You're you're giving him miss mixed signals in terms of what

he can do. And that's what honestly allows these you know, opportunities for qualified immunity that we talked about two in terms of police feeling threatened because oh, well I told him to do this and he reached inside the car. I couldn't see what was in the car. So I felt, you know, that my life was threatened. It's just it's ain't got caught of this lad because of body camp.

And honestly, though, um I remember, honestly us not having tags on the cars I've I'm starting to notice that I've had an experience like this with even L A. P D. I had just bought my car when I came back to Los Angeles and I had a temporary license up in the window. Got pulled over and he was like, oh, you don't have any tags on your car. And I was like, well, I have, you know, my temporary license display. I don't have my I don't have

everything yet. And the officer was very rude. He was an Asian officer, reached in my car, snatched it out. It was it was a whole thing, to the point that my father had to get involved. So I just I have a lot of feelings about this, and they're good to have a daddy and Niggers. I'm you know, we we appreciate my my father was in the Navy. You know, my biological father was in. So I appreciate what the what the veterans do. What I don't like is the disrespect that they get from our own count

from their own country. And I'm mostly talking about me and of color, black and brown people. I'm not even talking about I'm not I don't know what. And I've seen some white veterans here what they said. You know how many homeless people here said they are fad nobody did anything for them, that they're homeless and woo. So it is it's just across the board to me. But at this point in time, I'm definitely not gonna let my son go join the military. Not in this country.

We already at war. He I told the man, we was at a ward. Don't you watch the news? He said, what were we in right now? I say, don't you watching the trailer of Derek Chauvin. I should have said, I know, I didn't say Derek Schoulvin, I said of George Floyd, because Derek Chauvin ain't on trail, you know.

I think that's a really good point to make, and I think we can also segue now into that that I it's it's annoying to me that the narrative is saying that, you know, we're watching the murder trial of Derek Chauvin. Derek Chaudan didn't get murdered, Okay, George Floyd did so. I think also too, on the media front, we need to accurately display what's happening, because that's only adding to the narrative of what the defense is trying

to say. Derek Chauvin wasn't murdered, George Floyd was. So if you want to talk about a murder trial, it's the murder trial of George Floyd. He's the one. I think the reason they say the murder trial of Derek Chauvin is because it was because of his actions that were at this point, So he needs to be held accountable, not George Floyd. No reason for George Floyd to be part of this narrative because George Floyd is not by

his own hand that he is in this situation. He is in this situation because he chose to he being Derek Chauvin, chose to buy accounts from his own members of his own police force, not use his training when outside of his training applied force that was lethal, and is because of those actions that he has been tried for the murder of George Floyd. That nigga killed them, that means because I still don't think that that's what said,

So that showing is a shyster. And I'm telling y'all, they need to put that nigg on the witness stand and they need to let that lady prosecutor corner that nigger because she's gonna be the one because to me and b act an all timid and ship, I'm gonna telling you all the balls now belong to women. Let me just say that all the balls save to belong to women. Women got more balls than a lot of

these men right now. And I see what I said, and I mean exactly what I said, because their backbone is sticking up, and so many men are tucking their head because they're worried about their careers or their livelihoods and how much money they make it and pushing integrity and just stuff that really matters to the back burner just for a check, or they say I'm popular. Women are really black and mostly brown, and black women are carrying the burden for everybody, and black men, mostly in

the black community. I know some black men're gonna be mad at me, but y'all know I don't give an y'all do know that, right? Okay? What happened Lauren? No? I mean, I agree with you, honestly. The burden Honestly, it falls on us a lot of the time, and

we're the ones that are, you know, pushing forward. But um, I'll just say this, I think at this point between all of the expert testimony, and I saw that today too, they were saying that and a lot of trials that they dream of these types of experts that are coming forward on behalf of the prosecution to really showcase, you know, just how in the wrong Derek Chauvin is. So I think that I'm gonna just say this, He's gonna have to take one for the white team at this point.

I'm sorry, They're just gonna have to do that. They're gonna have to convict him. That's the only way that this is going to end well, because I saw a report I think in Business Insider yesterday. If I'm not mistaken that let this verdict come back that he's not guilty, it's gonna be some problems. So they're gonna Jerik Chauvin needs to take one for the white team just to

keep the piece of America. And Laura, I know you have I know you have law enforcement in your family, and I think that we can both say this is like the first time we've seen a cry in that blue wall, because usually the blue wall stands together, and we have seen members of the police force say this is not what we do at all, this completely and they came out against him. Nicholas. It's so many officers, including the captain or what wasn't the chief the chief

let me tell you something, everybody. If everybody is saying some horrible shit about you, it's not it's not a lie. It's terrible. Let me chase something. This man here. And then they had the doctor come on in and said, oh, well, he had taken drugs and he was he could have had what what's she a doctor? The little young white girl did she came on she gave experts testimony last week because I was watching and said that something about he was um, he was under the influence, so he

was not none of which was which killed him. This nigga put his knee on this man's neck. But that man it's between that seconds looking at the camera and they got the and and I'm telling you, Lauren just made a very valid point. I do think that something will happen. But I think something will happen no matter what the verd he is because they raised a million dollars to for for the defense too, because they believe

they want him to get off. We we who have regular asks, who can see how everybody but Stevie wanted to, can see that this nigga clearly killed this man. We watched it, and we watch it every time they show it because they show it three fo times a damn day, so you cannot get away from it. He is guilty. But I'm telling you be ready, y'all because that judge,

that judge, well, I think too. Um. One thing I wanted to bring up and this is I feel like this is gonna be an in tandem thing because we are going to talk about Dante, right, and what happened yesterday in Minnesota, just ten miles away from here. But I think it's interesting to your point about the judge is because they were talking about today with sequestering the jury. The defense tried to say, oh, you know, there's this this new shooting, this new officer involved shooting happen yesterday,

we should really sequester the jury. So I'm glad that the judge denied the request, but he said, but what we're gonna do is a week before for the jury goes to deliberate, they are going to sequester the jury. And I really want to know why. So Nick, what are your thoughts? Uh? I think a couple of things. There are reasons. We know that there are benefits to sequestering the jury, but usually which what are the benefits? Well,

this is part of why they do it. The idea behind sequestering the jury is so that they can be cut off from any type of outside influence not associated with the trial. It is possible that if I'm married, or if I have friends with whom I speak regularly, it is possible one of them is upset about what they may have seen and may share that with me. Or you didn't hear about the kid who just got shot ten miles away flame? What no, what happened? I was in trial today. I didn't know if they Oh,

Nick has gotten no better? Wow, that's weighing on my mind. I don't know that a juror, being privy to that information, the defense might argue, can still be measured and removed from influence if they're still seeing and hearing things that are happening in the community that may have the community once again marching in protests and demonstration. Do I then feel like, as a juror, this is my opportunity to set the record straight? Or am I still being impartial

and listening to the information presented before me. Those are one of many one of the many reasons they try to sequest your jury in high profile cases if they can. You also don't want media knocking on their door. I've been part of that. You know when we have you know you're assigned. You need to find that redhead. You're right there with the glasses, that the one who keep looking, she keeps getting emotional. Nick, that's going to be the one to give you the sound bite that you're looking for.

So we're all trying to find her where she is, talked to her family member, all of these things, and a lot of times, you really do want to protect these people who are only doing their civic duty by being on jury duty. You know, um, and learn to be clear, there are people who get this because I know something who dodge jury duty. So you've got people who won't even stand up and do their duty to

do jury duty. Yet they don't want those who are who have stood up to do the right thing to even have the protection of being protected from outside influences. So you know why, let me say, I'm starting to examining to break your point, but you know why a lot of people Black people avoid jury duty because we don't get the time off from work. A lot of people don't get that time or they don't get the money for that, and then they're put in situations and

they have children. They don't give you an opportunity to say, I gotta go to daycare to pick up my kids. They care not gonna care about that. You in court, you know for that so so flame, let's just say that's true. Got it? So now here, I am as a black man, hoping to get somebody like a you or a Lauren who may understand my background. But you won't even show up because oh, I don't get time out. I gotta take care of my kids. Is is I gotta do all these things, and I'm looking for somebody

who looks like me to be there. But then, then, as a black man, don't get your ass in trouble and expect no other black person to get you out of it. Because I got my own life. Then don't get in trouble. And I'm only talking to the ones that's guilty. I ain't talking to the ones that's innocent. So that that's don't don't don't put don't put me in that box with it because you on trial. I didn't put your ass in jail. I didn't do I'm not talking to you niggas. I'm talking about the person there.

Don't don't look at me. I need somebody black. You didn't come to jewelry duty. I would have had to come to jewelry do it. And then if you wouldn't have got your ass in no trouble. And that's the only other ones that were guilty. I m the ones that was inn because a lot of us are innocent that go to jail. So M you cannot everybody can't be your crutch. Your ass on your chest is to save you. Then don't get your ass in trouble if you can avoid it. But you can't look for nobody

else to save you in that situation. And I don't like the way they do black. And they put them in they put them in the room, and then they ordered lunch, and some people get I'm telling I did jury duty one time. Couldn't you believe I did a duty. I was a good juror too, And they get certain people certain lunches and a certain amount of time to go and then different people. And I had young kids. I had to get home of my Jews. This is

how I know from personal experience. You can't tell me I can't get home to my kids because this they're gonna try bring him back to court tomorrow. I gotta go pick up my baby. We live in California. We had just moved here. I knew no one, so I didn't have anyone to say, Hey, Lauren, can you go pick my daughter up from Dacon. You know what I'm saying, Your your life mistakes is your excuses can't follow me.

That's what I'm saying. And I would like to see more of us and jury duty, But then then they need to be a little more accommodating for black and brown people so that we will go to do jewelry duty. Because if I'm treated fairly and I'm talked to like I got, like you got some goddamn sense, because I'm already grown. If you talk to me crazy, I'm gonna

talk to you crazy back. But if you talk to me like you got and since I'm gonna give you the same respect that you give Nickolas, they don't do that. I'll tell you the court system. Here's stuff here is just twisted to me. But as far as that that young boy that what was his name, Dante, right, they're already looting and righting and and I'm sorry, and this is to my black people. Looting is not rioting. I don't. I don't think they were. They they definitely have been

trying to say but okay, so that considered looting. I'm just saying I do still. But before we move on, let's go back to Derek Shavin. Sha has been charged with second and third degree murder and manslaughter. So I do feel like Lauren. They've tried to cover the bases there, and defense attorney Eric Nelson has argued that the now fired white officer did what he was trying to do, and then Floyd's death was caused by illegal drugs and

underlying medical problems. The prosecution make clothes and wrap up their case as late as as early as this week. I tell you what, I want to be home though, no matter what happens. I would encourage everybody to be home. Everybody to go get a case of water, stock up on some food, because it's whatever, whatever decision is. I want me and my children to be at home, safe together because I hope you are not on the road and traveling. Lauren. You can do triple. I hope everybody

is all my flamemates. I want you to be home because you don't know. And I remember when O J was was let off on Nicole's Murphy's murder, I would people were enraged. The black people were celebrating, but the white people were furious. I thought it was gonna be and I was at Hartfield and Georgia. I thought it was gonna be a damn right at the airport. So yeah, I'm gonna be home with my HJ, with my h J.

And again, this would only be the prosecution, I'm sorry. Yeah, the prosecution wrapping up there their case, and many are wondering whether or not. And I just saw your guy Dan Abrams just talking about how it would be foolish for the defense to put Derek Chauvin on on the stand, that he would he would do himself a great deal of harm if he were to open himself up to cross examination, because, let me tell you, his defense the defense attorney is failing miserably. He sucks. I'm sorry, there's

just no other way to say it. He's a terrible well. I mean, I can't say that he's a terrible attorney in general, because I don't know what his track record is. So let me clarify in this instance of this case, he's terrible. Well, he's he's representing a terrible person. So good good because that nigga killed that man. And I watched it, and I watched the upside down. I watched it with my glasses off and on. I watched the high and sober, and guess what, all the same outcome.

He murdered this man in cold blood. I do want them to put George Floyd on this. I mean not George. I want them to put Derek Chalbin on the stand. And I want that lady to prosecutor to a corner that food and play that video and tell him you cannot look down, you can't look away, you can't start writing,

you can't do anything. Your focus has to stay on you kill and stop it right there at that moment, because he said he was being distracted by talking to those young people who was telling him, hey, he's not moving, he can't breathe, he's dying. And he said he was distracted. He might have spoke, Derek Shelvin two or three words out of that whole time you wanted to track, you

had johand in your pocket, you'll neel his neck. And he was looking directly into the camera as if to say, I'm gonna kill this nigga and the ship y'all can do about it. And I would like them to stop that video in court in front of the whole the world, the all the world watch and say what were you thinking right there at that moment, right there, at that moment, what was you thinking? And make him answer, Hey, no, I don't know. I plead the fifth got nigga take

a privilege and like I do remember some ship. As we said, I do want to mention we talked about as we closed last week, Uh, we were talking about how the shootings have not slowed down and and since we since we got off the air last week, two Navy sailors injured into Frederick shooting. Gunman shot and killed at Maryland Military base, we also talked about how. And then also on Thursday NFL player, uh, Philip Adams, and

then Thursday the workplace shooting in Texas. So and then just uh the one we were going to segue two next night. No, we're gonna specify this because all of those we're not officer involved shootings. So this segue for Dante right was another officer involved shooting. It was just ten miles away in Minnesota. So in it's called Brooklyn Center, correct, if I'm not mistaken, Brooklyn Center. Um So, background Again,

the there's conflicting stories. There's one story that says that the officers pulled Dante right over because of his tags, similar to the officer in Norfolk, Virginia. But there's another story saying that the officers pulled him over because he had an air freshener blocking his rear view mirror. But the mother is saying that that doesn't make sense because the windows were tempted. They had just bought him this car. Um So, the police pulled up, you know, pulled him over.

They're saying that the reason why they had him get off the cars because he had a warrant out for his arrest. I saw a part of the footage or the body camp footage that was released today the Dante moved to get back into the car. When he did the female actually she's a female police officer. They don't want to confirm that yet, but I've heard that on

the news. She's a female police officer claiming that she was reaching for her taser and accidentally reached for her gun and shot him, and she did apologize, So she is gonna bring his life back. No, but what I'm saying is, unlike we're talking about that, we're talking about how the Derek Schauvin Like, so, what we have in this situation. Yes, in Minnesota, it is illegal to have air fresheners hanging from the mirror. That's that's the first thing.

And I guess they saw that when they actually stopped him, right. Um. And then so when he moved to get back into the car, she screams, Taser, Taser apologized, pulled the wrong pulled the wrong weapon. Um. So that that is definitely your right, Lauren. That came out today that she's She's like, oh, that's not what So unlike say, the Derek Schauvin situation, where we agree he had intent or looked like he had intent to kill, this was a mistake on her part.

Is what are you? Are you serious, Nicholas, I'm really serious right now too. Are you serious? You've given it? I know what you're saying, but I don't even want you to put those in the same comparison. I don't give a funk that she made a mistake. That was somebody's son, and that was somebody's boyfriend, and that was somebody's nephew uncle. I don't know the funk about an apology. I can't get my baby back. No, I understand that

that's not what I'm saying at all. I thought we were talking about what happened in this situation, that's all. I was just simply saying that that's what's come out today. The latest information is that she made a mistake. She has been she has since been put on leave. Um and as they can, and everybody had body cameras going uh. It is not like they were trying to hide anything.

They've been transparent about this from the beginning. So unlike the Chauving situation, I feel like we have more to work with here than we can actually see what actually played out. Since her birthday was today her Fursday. No, And this is and I'm gonna just say this, this is where my problem is. Right for those of you that have had a gun versus a taser, I'm gonna just say this, the weight is very different. It's not

the same weight. It's just not And if you're a properly trained police officer, it's very hard for me to believe that you accidentally reached for your gun, didn't realize that you had your gun and then proceeded to fire said gun. That's I just the weight of a gun in the taser is not the same thing. It's just not it's not the way. That's completely more. It's going to be more to this story because she probably had

a bad day or a bad night. You remember that's what they said about the guy who she had a bad day because just like Amber Geiger, remember she had a bad night because the boyfriend who was somebody's husband and she was trying to cheat with that. She said he wouldn't come late with a white ass or whatever the funk she was. I said what I said. She got mad and walked in the wrong house and shot that man and killed him. And she apologized. I don't

want your apology. I want you in jail. I want you the same thing you did to my kids is what I want to you. I want if my baby baby the Bible said, by all these Bible thumpers an app or an eye baby, a life or life. And I'm not saying and kill folks. I'm not encouraging that. I'm not even pushing that. But do you not gonna give me no fucking Apolly oh, I'm so sorry. Sorry, that's as bad as you're coming to me saying my band and I don't give my bad or what you're

bad or what. That's ridiculous to me that they should have put that bit in jail, mama. Let me stop. Well, if it is indeed true that she grabbed the wrong weapon, I agree with Lauren one, and that is definitely poor. What do you mean if it is true, if she grabbed the wrong weapon, I thought you all wait, y'all saying she did it on purpose? Yes, dear, let me say it again. Let me stay it for you. The

bitch did it on purpose. What I'm saying, and I'm assuming then what I'm saying is if she did it on purpose, and she's saying she meant to grab the taser, then clearly she needed more training, right. I just I can't fathom the fact that you didn't understand that you had a gun in your hand and out a taser. It's just it's not the same weapon. It's it's unfathomable for me for for that kind of mistake to happen.

And you want to say, oh, I'm sorry, this is according again, this front police chief, This was an accidental discharge that resulted in the tragic death of Mr Dante Right. Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tom Gannon said during today's press conference where body camera's footage from all of the officers has been released, and he noted that the very senior officer involved shouted taser taser during the arrest, apologized immediately that she pulled out her handgun when she fired the

single shot that killed. So it was not repeated. It was one shot taser, taser oakes wrong, wrong wrong weapon. That So this is today and this is um. This was from the today's press conference. Okay, let's brings something missing because I need to get some of the opinions. Go ahead, Mark, because Mark is all up in the comments. Marc bat Marcus heated ready to fight. You want when you need to take that aggression out on You wanna take that aggression out on me? You wanna beat me?

Play listen. First of all, First of all, there is no way it is humanly impossible unless you are impaired that you do not. First of all, the trigger pull is different on a taser versus a gun. The overall feeling of it. I can grab, I can be blindfolded and go pull four my guns out and know which gun I'm grabbing. There's no way, it's it's impossible. And for the taser, don't you have to take a cover

off before you discharge it? Ye? So that that is just the audacity that I think this is so close to what's going on right now in Minneapolis, and the audacity that they have come up with this cover up so quickly. I just I don't know what to say. And there's no there's no rash. I agree with first lady. First ladies said, when have they started shelling taste or tasted? They don't do it. They just do it. They might say one time, I'm gonna tase you, but they already

have the taser out. She raised them for that her gun. I'm sorry, I'm with you market And then they say she has senior office, So then she had been trained. She had been trained numerous times. Supposedly, this goes back to the whole police reform. Stop putting people in neighborhoods

that they don't belong in. If you don't know me, you don't understand how I speak, you don't understand that I used my hands and aggression when I'm speaking, even when I'm not being aggressive, then your ass don't belong over here in my neighborhood would have gun and a badge, because when I see you, we were taught as children to respect authority, police, black robes, judges, all. But the

you just coming me and disrespectful child. These young kids don't think like that the more, and they stand up and speak for themselves. But I don't even think that boy did that. He called again. He did just what George Floyd did. George Floyd called out for his mama. That boy called his mom on his cell phone first, called back a minute later and the girlfriend answered the phone and the mama said that that he had been shot.

I think the girlfriend said told the mom here. I just want to say that I think that that's the sad part about this because, as I'm gonna just say, people of color, black people in America, when you get pulled over, you have the instinct to call a loved one, So that way there's some proof to say this is what happens to it's a matter of you feeling safe. And honestly, when Dante was pulled out of the car, I know that he went to go back into the car.

It could have been a flight or flight situation. There's several instances of people getting arrested and not even making it to the police station alive. So in a lot of ways, we have that flight or flight instant because we don't know what's going to happen, because we don't feel safe, we don't know what's gonna happen to us. So for the simple fact that she's trying to say, like, oh, taser, taser taste, there's just there's just too many holes her

story at this point. There are three there are three body camp there are three body camera footed from three played out today. What the officers can be seen approach he rights white car. One officer pulls the twenty year old out of the vehicle, turns him around, attempts to handcuff him against the car, right struggles, gets back in. During that chaotic struggle, officer pulls out a gun and

shoots as he's sitting in the driver's seat. The officer can be heard on multiple cameras and microphone screaming taser, taser, doing the footage before saying, holy s I shot him and apologized immediately. That's that's what's officers. If that if that bitch had a gun in her face, she's gonna know what's gun to pull out. They don't never make that mistake. They don't Amber Geiger didn't mistakenly pull out her taser when she was going into her house. It's

never the opposite. But now that's the cover up. That is complete bullshit. There's no way around it. I'm complete And I don't care what the news report. I don't care what the body cam say. That bitch was on the mission to kill somebody black. Can I tell the bash to call me because if she want to go toe to toe, gun to gun, Because I think I think I will say this because of the the climate of Minnesota, what's happening around this Derek Chauvin trial. I think that in a lot of ways, police are on

a more of a heightened alert. In a lot of ways, she might try to say, like, oh, I felt like I was in danger because here we go, here's another black man. We have this, you know, Derek Chauvin trial is going on. She that might be the temperament of what the police department is right now. That's not in no way saying that that justifies her doing that. But that also goes to us saying, you need to actually have well trained officers in these situations to de escalate it.

And as a senior officer, you still chose to pull the wrong weapon bullshit. Like you said, Mark, you're a senior officer. You were supposed to be trained to de escalate these situations, not heighten them. Because if you're insecurity as an officer on the job, that's not our problem, your officer. You've pulled your gun out more times and I have shot any of my guns. And like I said, put me in a dark room with ten guns, I can point out the fourth of our mind. Would you

pick out mind gun? Out them? Four? Though? Could you pick you pick out my gun? Is the question? But this is laughing learn so we're laughing, you know, Mark, It's such a heavy conversation. I just want to bring it back a little bit because I'm I'm emotional. You emotional. Lord angry Nicholas has giving us all these things that these people say. I'm telling you something. I don't care

what that lady said. If when you all become parents and all you all that millions of dollars in the thirty nine million dollars, none of that will suffice bring it back your loved one. And whether that's whether you're a parent or you know, it could be your brother, your mom, your dad, whomever. It is. Nothing, none of that money will suffice having that person back. And look in your argument that you made last week about you know,

the service calling your son. When I saw that story over the weekend, the first thing that came in my head is that we just had this conversation last week and it's just I mean, an army medic, like you see that this man is in uniform, and you were acting like a complete you know what, you know what uniform? He saw that man mark black, his black skin. That's what exactly what he saw him means. And here's the thing,

he's a Hispanic officer. People forget where they come from in the old oppression that they face in their mark. You didn't open up an that's what That's what. It didn't matter that he was Latino or that he all they saw. And you know, Latinos come in different hues. They come just like we come from all Like was like Baskin Robbins, he saw black. He didn't ask the man. He just fucking saw black. He didn't see the uniform he saw black. But this if Mark opened up the

candle worms, if we're gonna go here. Part of the issue I will say for the Latino community specifically, like when they when you are immigrating to this country and Mark police feel free to step in at any point or if you want to correct me if I'm wrong, But this is what I have. I have friends that I work with that are actually still trying to obtain

status here coming here. Part of the process when you have to check off with your ethnicity is for instance, when you come to this country, if you're you know, immigrating from another there's no box for you to check off Hispanic or Latino. The only kind of box option

is for them to check white. So in a lot of ways, you have this underlying systemic racism within the Latino community where they're basically being dehumanized and stripped of their identity because they have to assimilate with this white culture. And then it only perpetuates when you have some of these Latino officers that come onto police department or on the fire department or there are there you have you that they're trying to assimilate with their counterparts, not realizing

that you are still a person of color. And then you get an officer like a Joe Gutierrez who feels in his spirit that he has this white privilege autonomy to treat another officer, um, you know, in the military this way. So it's a perpetual side cool. Honestly, that's probably I don't ever see being broken. But that's part of the issue here. It is also I think it's people again. They don't people don't take uh, they don't

view life outside of their own experiences. And when I say that, you would think that this Hispanic officer could relate with somebody else who's of color in this country. But he didn't. He wasn't even thinking that big he was it was this is a black man, not think he's another person of color. It's just again, he didn't care that this person shared a similar experience probably being in America as a person of color. He just saw that this person was, like you said, black, and people

just they they forget about Um. I don't know, they're not human. To my opinion, I don't see these people as human. That's just well, you know, Mike, what Lawrence said about the Latino people that with them having to pick and choose a say. Some of that is very true because look at when brand, you know, and all the Cubans Marco Rubio, Yeah, all the Cubans voted Trump. They all went conservative. But they now, you know, they're jumping man way and they jumping ship. But now they

want to switch, not switch over to the Democrat. But now they're not holding Trump accountable. And they all got step of the checks. And I see it because I probably sent a couple of amounts. They got stimuli these checks and they catch their check. I know, to that sound off topic, y'all on me to sound off topic, just sounding real crazy right now. But I know some of that Tino people. I know some of Latino people

personally that do not identify as well. Yeah, well I don't want to say it like that, but they identify as white. And I'm like, you know what someone said, they trained the human ebing. She said they trained the human out of all police. And I think that is an interesting time. It goes back to this culture of policing because it is it's not a war necessarily between people of color and police. It's literally this problem with

police and African Americans in this country. Um, and you've seen it with the mix officer in the George Floyd incident. You know he was there, he witnessed it. It's it's literally a mentality and it's I don't know how we rooted out because politics comes is as part of this, but it's so deep and it's such a complicated history. I don't know if it's ever going to change. How do you change it? You can, it's impossible to go

into every police department. Sure you can start with unions and stuff of that sort, but it's impossible to go into every police department and reform them. I mean the Minneapolis Police Department. Their chief is a black man and he still has this stuff going on in his own department. So what is what is there? What can be done? And how he is in Minnesota and he is a chief of police and he's a black man with very limited power. Understand what that is? That is limited? That's

called limited power. I don't even funk what his title is or how he identifies, but his title is his. His his responsibilities are limited from people above him. And I'm telling you he is dancing the dance to keep his job, which I just said, baby, he is dancing the dance to keep his job. And I'm not beating him up because he's not the one on trial here. He's not the one who pulled the gun out and did all the boys ship. That was the opposite down there.

I just think that it's so sad the young man was. I don't know the whole scenario. I don't know if he was in trouble. I don't know he what what was going on. But let me just wait a minute. Yes, this part I do matter, and I know this. You know this laughing learned the nigga was faying. Can I just say that he was? That boy was so handsome? Oh my god? That done hurt more? Is that? Or is it? Me? Doesn't hurt more when they're good looking? No, I mean not for me. It hurts in general. Look

at her trying to play a girl. Now she want to be a girl. It's interesting. Why do we go this, Uh, this conversation will always happened. It's like, well, okay, it kind of makes it less of an impact. If this person had a warrant or if they were fighting, it's like they didn't deserve that treat. Well, that's what they do. Mark. If this is what we were talking about with George Floyd. Derek Shelman is not on trial George floydal this is how they do us. This is the system that is

set up for us to fail and lose. And I'm the last thing I'm gonna say speaking of the George Floyd trial. Again, we've talked about the judge. Everyone pay attention to the prosecution looks. In my opinion, they look scared of this judge. Every time they ask a question, they glance at the judge as if like is that okay? Like am I about to get in trouble. I've never seen Eric, who's the defense attorney. I've never seen him look to the judge unless there's an objection by the

prosecution that the judge overrules. That's the only time he looks at the judge other than that he's comfortable with his cross examination. But the prosecut ushion, especially the black prosecutor, looks intimidated as hell by this judge. And to me, that is a problem. We just power Mark. I'm telling you, we we still have to, as they say, we still need to know our place. We still have to. It is sounds, it sounds ridiculous to say in one, but baby looked like it's more prevalent now than it was

in seventy four. Oh. I think that's the sad part is that we're still living in the same reality. That's the sad part, that we have to acknowledge what's really changed, what's changed? Uh, Nicolas, you're very quiet on this conversation. You know you all haven't handled you know, I stay in my lane. What lane is that? What lane is that? Mark? Thank you so much. You know we appreciate you as always by Mark. Yeah it, Nicolas, it's just this hiding to me that twenty years old, he has such a

bright future. It's scary. Should I gotta baby? That makes me think about my son going to Tennessee. Now, I gonna tell him, you can't leave off campus. You stay on campus. I told you. Being in that climate, it's no different. My mom had to have a conversation for me when I went to Georgia. I went to spellming, but that's still Georgia was different then I was in

school when Donald Trump got elected. Okay, so hey, vesper, But I do think Lauren, just to touch on that, I do think that there's a familiar comfort that comes with being at an HBCU that it is a family that you tend to look out for one another. That's where I feel like Jamacus will thrive in that environment, you know, away from home, but you still on campus, on campus absolutely, because that's I'm sorry, Vesper, We're gonna

get to you in just a second. Being out of HBCU, you're definitely in a bubble like I was in the Atlanta University Center. You got Clark, you got more house, you have you know, Morris Brown, Spellman. We're a tight knit family. It's like being in a bubble. It's when you step outside of that and you go, oh, I'm still in a Southern state. That's when you have that realization. So, I mean in Floe and I have kind of talked

about that offline to JaMarcus is going to Tennessee. He's got to be careful, he has to be hi that Sper, how are you no? But I understand what you're talking about because you know, I'm from Atlanta, and I'm in Atlanta, and you know downtown Atlanta. I mean, it's inside too, is so aggressive. It's more progressive than California, you know. But then as soon as you get outside of two eighty five, it's like hit or miss. You could run into a Trump supporter and a hardcore socialist and the

same walking up, you know, down the sidewalk. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, the thing that's bothering me the most about all of this, you know, with all of these these shootings is the lack of empathy. Like, you know, none of none of this makes sense. Police officers are not to interpret the law, they aren't to enforce the law. And you know all this talk about good people with guns, Well, when if the police showed us that they actually are good people with guns, Like maybe we just need to

do like the UK. They don't like Honestly, they don't need guns. And if they're too afraid to do their job without a gun, then they don't need to be doing their job. It is right there there, It is right there best. And that's why I've been saying for all the whole time. They'll keep giving cowards guns, y'all.

And gave look crazy Johnny, Look crazy Ray Ray, who didn't terrorize the whole family and everybody, But now y'all, but the uncle is a police officer, so he helped him get the job and y'all have released this idiot on the world to us and who don't like black people or who don't like people with a darker hue because you ain't necessarily gonna be black because the lieutenant was not black, he just had a dark hue. And

I'll say this too. This is not to say that all police officers are bad, because I don't want to paint that narrative on the show either. My uncle is recently retired police officer. My grandfather was a police officer also on l AP, so there are some good police officers that actually do their job correctly. We don't want to paint that narrative either. However, there is a huge issue because even with those black officers that are on the job, there's still racism in hazing and other things

that they have to fight. We still need to have police reform at the end of the day. And this is coming from a niece who, like I said, I have an uncle that just retired. My father works for the fire department. That's a whole another animal. So there has to be some type of reform that happens. Because Flame has said it, vest for you have said it.

We have these white officers that are going into these rural neighborhoods that are one that are scared seven and don't know how to de escalate situations best for you. Also said too in the UK they don't even use guns and they actually know how to disarm somebody with a weapon without having to you know, fire a gun. So something has to be done. At this point two d shootings is only April, two hundred officers involved shooting.

Something's got to happen. I have a suggestion. I think that they should have the lieutenant who just de escalated the whole situation but still got Pepper's played. They should let him teach a class to the police on he handled. He handed that situation like sher and the Underwood handled Sharon Osborne situation. He handled that situation. But the problem is we have this class and then what happens Nothing, Nothing happens because we end up with the police officers

have a mentality because of our culture. It's not even just a police culture, it's the culture in America that when you see someone that is a darker hue, that automatically we're biased, all of us, myself included, to assume danger and you know it takes personal responsibility to overlook that. But I mean, they've done studies on this. Black officers, white officers, they all shoot black people the same amount. So it's not really a race thing. It's a police

mentality thing. It's a cultural thing that we all have to do. And you know, to your point, Lauren, you asked what is different. The biggest thing that's different now is we're aware. Before paid attention it was happening, but nobody paid attention. The difference now is everybody's paying attention. Every time it happens, it goes viral, it becomes a thing. So as long as we keep that awareness, it's gonna

eventually change. But we have to keep pushing. We have to keep coming up with ideas and pushing good ideas because the stuff that we're doing now is an old way of doing things that does no longer service. So

we have to do better. We have to be more loving, We have to promote empathy, and we have to make sure that we remove the situation from ever being a possibility by removing their guns, by putting those officers that discharge their weapons on desk duty for the rest of their career, that will that will make them think twice before they put that gun out, because none of them they should be fined, a pension should be tripped. And you did make that first point. You made investment when

you what did you say? You just said it again, empathy. Uh. The reason we don't seem to have empathies vestment because there's so many shootings and look like it has become commonplace. We have almost become complacent with this. Oh another one, Oh, another one. You know you're hearing, you're like wow, even when his kids or old people, wow. And then you just go about your day and like like nothing. That

that that that's how we have been. It's ingrained in to us because it's been happening so much and not just now. They're trying to make it look like it's more now because I already know what the you know, my conspiracy theory is they're trying to make it more prevalent now so inwo they can say that the world was safer on the Trump's watch than under Biden's watch. I don't believe that at all. They just showing more

than the shootings. The shootings were still happening under Biden's I mean on the Trump's administration that he just did so much other ridiculous ship that sometimes the shooting didn't make the news because he did ridiculous ship on purpose, you know, kind of like when Caitlin killed the white woman didn't want to got titties, and the titties superseded her becoming. Yeah, let me just say what I said, the titties superseded the murder. This is what I'm saying

we have become. It's just like, Wow, Lauren. If Lauren would have walked to the door today said four kids get shot right here on the street, I don't want to look at it thor say oh my god, are they man? And then I would have came in the house and then, laughing, learned like it was nothing. And I'm not saying that like I'm disregarded, But this is how we are right now. This is where the country is. I know what you're saying. We're all desensitized to it

because we've seen it so much that that's it. I mean. And the thing about it is, I don't think this is I'm gonna open up a can of worms. And I realized that this laughing larn open it, damn it. We're ready over since Obama, the numbers, the FBI numbers of officers involved shootings against white people has actually increased and surpassed the number of black people. And this is something that the Proud Boys and all those racist motherfucker's love to use as a talking point that, oh, they're

shooting white White lives matter because they're shooting white people more. Well, here's my thing. If they're shooting white people more, then that is a definite reason that they need to be on the side of black lives matter, because if they're shooting white people, they're shooting black people. They're like, if anyone, regardless of their color of skin, is getting shot by the police, it can happen to anyone. And now we actually have factual, scientific evidence of the numbers that they

are shooting everyone. So like, none of this makes sense. We are desensitized to it. But the fact is there's no excuse for anyone to say, oh, this is normal and this is okay. And they're out there right now protesting some White Lives Matter protests. Well, if y'all cared about white life, you're about taking away the police's guns so they can't. Well, on another note to that, I thought it was funny. I don't know if you guys

saw this video. There was a White Lives Matter rally at Trump Tower in New York UM this past weekend. There was this Nazi there and the New York City Police actually escorted him out very peacefully and then hailed a cab for him so he got home safely. So just showing you the differences, there was a White Lives There was a White Lives Matter rally this weekend in Huntington Beach, California. You know, so they're popping up all that's right up the street. Flay, I was thinking the

same thing, and Huntington Beach is actually pretty nice. But here's the here's the caveat Lauren, to your point, they were outnumbered by those who live in Huntington Beach and said, oh no, not here, We're not doing this, or they shut it down because the those who were there support White Lives Matter were outnumbered by those who were like, I don't care what permit you have, you're shutting this down. We don't do this here, so let's go and and yep,

sure enough. I will say, though Vesper, I do appreciate your optimistic viewpoint. I think that that's still important for us to have in times like the US. Yes, we have to state the facts and understand the crisis that we're in, but I think it's still good when we have those optimistic views. So thank you, and I'll just want to leave you all with one note, like, we can't change other people, and if we keep trying, we're just wasting our energy. The only people we can change

is ourselves. So if we make ourselves better and continue to have these conversations, eventually people will catch on. That's let me just give your heads up to my flame mats. I'm building the arc in my backyard because I know he coming back, and I'm then y'all know we I'm not taking the two animals. I don't like working with

flies and none of that. I don't care, but I will take two people though, So y'all need to just speak out who going on because I'm gonna take a couple of people with me, because I'm telling you right now, the only way to end racism, God's gonna have to start it all over again. I truly believe he's going to have to eradicate the entire planet and we start all over again. That means I won't be here. But if I get my art, depending on how much money i'll get, and if you cute, i'll let you ran

we'll shoot. That's what the Lord did, uh no with Moses. Remember he made them stay in the desert for forty years to get rid of everybody. Yet, you know, anyway, we don't need to geto. It has to be That's the only way I can see it going. I'll do over. We have to do a duo, and we know that that's virtually impossible unless you watch two thousand and eleven Bill Gates interview. Uh yeah, okay, thank you besper. Uh Miss t t Jan, I am cracking up. She said,

I ain't doing ship, so my behavior is fine. We

love you T g Jan so much. That was funny. Um. One thing I will say on this last note is I really do I know sometimes we criticize the media on this show, but I will say that the press conference that was held in um Minnesota after Dante right shooting, I appreciate all of the reporters that were in that room because they asked the questions that needed to be asked, and they called the police chief out when he was wrong, when he tried to say, well, there was a riot,

and they said it wasn't a right, it was a peaceful protest. Then those are the folks that you attacked, and they retaliated again and shoe and that led to the diluting and all of these different things that happened. They even said that they threw a tear gas bomb that almost you know, hit an apartment building that could have affected a whole bunch of people. So I do want to say that the media did an outstanding job in that press conference and asking that police chief and

correcting him when he was wrong. So, oh, Nick, before we're gonna move on, let's give let me give an acknowledgement to the mayor t J And what's her name, first black female mayor of St. Louis. She just won the election, uh last week, so I can't think of her name. Jan is on here, she'll say it, but she just won. So hats off to her because we are still moving forward in spaces. So with all the negative and all the bad that we see black folks and even look Crusen, what's her name to Shanna Jones?

That's her name, that's her name to Shanna Jones who just won and t Jan was on Comfee time the other day to Shara, I want to make sure we give her the right shout out to Shara. I believe she pronounced it to Shara. Okay, congratulations to to Shara Jones in um Uh St. Louis for becoming the first

black female mayor. We are moving forward to black people, and I just said another black women, black women, black women right now for the last at least two three years that we and well not for the last two three years, for such a long time, but now they're getting the recognition that they deserve. Let me say that correctly because I want to get slapped. Lawrence sit right

next to me. You know, she takes jiu jitsu with ship Uh have really stepped up and they're getting a lot more praise, a lot more accoldes, and a lot more notoriety because of their work that they have been doing consistently for ship how many years since since the Vagina Monica? What the Vagina monologue say? Black women built this country. Black women built this country. Talk about it.

I will say though, on that note, because I know we maybe maybe pushing the clock a little bit, but we say we have about ten minutes left, I think we can end this episode on a lighter note for the black community. So Nick, I'm saying that because I do want to segue into l A County. UH is in the process of trying to return the land that was stolen from a black family actually in um Manhattan Beach.

They're looking to return the property back to the original owners, who was actually a black family who had Manhattan Beach stolen from them. I hope their last name is Parker Um. Let me, Nick, do you have the article in front of you so we can get the names of the owner.

Thank you. Bruce's Beach owner could get Manhattan Beach land back under a plan, the descendants of the black family that once owned a thriving ocean front resort in Manhattan Beach could get the property back under state legislation announced on Friday. Backers of the proposal, which will be introduced by state Senator Stephen Bradford of Gardenia, said the first step towards correcting the historican justice that was sees the resort of Charles and Will Bruce and Forest Black Beach

coors out of town years ago. Oh well, this is interesting. My mother just said that Manhattan Beach City Council voted No, I didn't know that. Um, well, we'll follow this more. But shoot it, I was trying to end on a light note, but I guess not anymore. Um but I think I think still just this whole process though, of

even considering forms of reparations. I think this is the least that can be done, because there's a lot of land across this country that was stolen from specifically black communities. We can even take it to a history lesson of let's go to Central Park in New York that was actually called Seneca Village. That was a very Seneca village that was a very popular, affluent black community that had literally pushed all these black folks out so that way

they can build Central Park. So if we're gonna start talking about reparations and giving back what is owed, I am all for this and it needs to happen more across this country. So what do you think would be fair reparation is? Now? Seriously, well, shoot, Manhattan Beach is worth seventy two million dollars, So um, let's see what the value of the land is, and then we can determine what the reparation status should be. There's seventy two million those Bruces where their last name used to be

Parker and the change over the Bruce. I'm asking com run me a check. I take it. Guess about reparations, I've honestly I thought about that. I do think that the I think that one of the greatest equalizers is education, right, and I believe that one should be able to go to a public school and have the same quality education

as a student that goes to a private school. So if there are some way to make that equitable across communities, across different demographics, I think that would be an excellent place to start when we're talking about reparations. In all honesty, that if you can get every kid to be able to learn with the same enthusiasm, have the same resources, have all the same amenities that they have in the better zip codes, I think that that is a great

place to start. I think that's nice and not I don't disagree with you on that, Nick, but I think that land is more important. And I'll just say that because of the like the generational wealth and things like that, that the black folks just weren't afforded in this country having a place to be able to call home and like this is your place where you can stay. You don't have to worry about things like homelessness and poverty, and you know where you're gonna eat, health and wellness.

A lot of that is just encompass you. There's so many different disparities that are encompass with land specifically. So while education, yes, is important, but being able to have a place that's called your own, that you know is not going to be taken away from you, that you can pass on from generation to generation, I think that's more vital honestly at this point in time because of the country they were living in, Lauren, I just feel like, I just feel like education is the one thing that

can't be taken away. Like I have friends who owned property in Sonoma County on Windsor and they suffered through those wildfires last year and they've got they still own that burnt out brush of land, but the homes that they had that they grew up in, that their grandparents built and all of that. And I'm not I'm not

negating that. I understand that they want to hold onto that property, but there's something about being educated and knowing that you're better than your circumstances, and knowing that anything is possible, that that just can't be stripped. You can strip away property and you can't take that with you.

But there's something about that burning fire of knowledge and wanting to learn and just that hunger that I think is absolutely invaluable, so that every kid believes that you know well, I mean, I hear you, um, but that's just my opinion. I think land is at the is at the forefront of it because to have something that's yours, because you have highly we talked about veterans in this situation.

We have all of these highly educated you know, you went, you fought for your country and all these different things. You came back to nothing. You had nothing, so you end up being homeless, you end up not being able to afford to you know, eat, you end up you know, your health is in crisis and you can't get you know, assistance. So there's I don't know, that's that's just for me. I feel like that encompasses the most reparations. I don't want to check. I steal with my forty acres at them.

Then they promised us forty acres at the meal. We still wait on it. Spike Lee said, that's what. Oh my god, look forty acres. And I'm actually wearing a Spike Lee jersey today, so that's funny. Yes, it says forty acres. He get his forty acres and his meal. Well, Spike Lee just got his first oscar a couple of years ago, so shoot, how many how long has he been making movies? Anyway, that's another conversation. I don't even

know what would would be fair with reparations that. I know this is gonna sound real fucked up, y'all, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Y'all know, I don't care. They make money. It's not like it's grown. It's not like it's it's like bananas that's grown on a tree or fruit. They make money. Money is printed. You can make enough. This is what drives your economy. And yet they have shown us clearly with this whole stimulus ship that if they want to prove something, they can click

one button and checks will go into accounts immediately. Everyone in this country should be doing better. Give everybody a hundred thousand dollars to whatever it takes. Because I hear you, Nicklas, with the education, you know how many millionaire and billionaire rappers that we have now that have never had an education.

They were slinging on the streets. They they found their joy, they found their talent, they found their voice, and now they are billionaires and millionaires and power brokers and money makers and woo woo. And they didn't go to college. But they hustle, hustle, hustle. So giving people the education,

I understand exactly what you're saying. But if the driver is not in that person and the hustle is not in them, they're gonna have the education, and it's gonna be a piece of paper that sits on the wall in a planque forever. They ain't gonna do ship with it. You got a point. I gotta agree with you. That person got to have a fire. The fire got to be in your ass before I'm giving you an opportunity to put you in the school. You got to want I can't want it for you. You have to want

it yourself. And everybody don't do that, Nicklas, and that, you know, black, white, young, old, everybody just don't have that. Some people have a drive. You had a drive, you knew you wanted to go to school. I remember you tell me that when you we were young, you was going to school no matter what. And you we had we both had adversities and obstacles to crawl over. But I didn't want to go to school. You did. You went to school, You had the school drive. Everybody doesn't

have that. So affording them the opportunity, you don't mean not give them something where they can make something of what they want to do to find their joy. Because everybody ain't for school. Everybody. Education is just not for everyone. That does not mean that they won't be successful in life. So I'm gonna open this up to you. Guys are bringing in one more flame. Matter, do you guys want to wrap up? Hey, jan I wish I could say correct and my behavior is the core of the problem,

or would make the problem less than the problem. But I'm good with my behavior and that is not put down to anybody. But I am emotionally beaten by the subject of being beaten by my color or just because of my color. Um and and and and and it's all the more troubling that we can't even comfort one another, you know what I mean. I can't say to a young black man, um, well, this too shall pass. Just be sure you don't argue with the police. You can't

say any of that. You just can't offer any resolution. Um. So you know it's a shame because this is nothing new. This behavior is nothing new. Cell Phones are putting it out there more, social media is putting it out there more. But we all know this is no new behavior of the police department has a code amongst themselves or are brethering. And that's the reason you see a lot of their Fraternal Order presidents be like baby Hitler because they run

on this code. And for the most part, all you had were a bunch of rejects going to the police depart and and because the uncle sir, then they brought in the useless nephew and gave him an opportunity not look crazy, Johnny, look the dogs, the cat tail on fight and ship look crazy one right now. Generally speaking, because I like you, um, Lauren, we have a family of military and police officers. But when we get involved, Nick,

thank you for your service. When we get involved, we're getting involved on the level of being all we can be doing a good job. You've just thrown into this mess to do damage control or things wigh more heavily on you, because you've got some people who are just using this as a means to be nasty to thoughts. I mean, these people would be useless and would find some way to be racist, even if they were sanitation engineers.

It's just something within them. What happens. I think because the cultures are their younger folks are sucking up our community. That's what's going to shift it a little bit. Trump made it very popular to come out as a racist. But at the end of the day, their children want to be with our children. Their children want to listen to our music. We get to a certain level where even our community starts giving a head nod and we start calling what they're doing as they're trying to mimic

us as having a hustle. You know, you can't fault them for having a hustle. They're trying to pick up our community. They don't want to struggle. They want how we buff all their edges off of us and present ourselves so they pick and choose. So it's a shame. It's not your behavior, it's not my behavior at all. I'm still going to commend uh the police officers in the military because I know largely, it's not those people

who are trying to do the right thing. It's just like the guy who was in intelligence and his wife went to the Capitol and she got killed. He was like, you know, I don't know what made her do that, you know. So I'm not just like he didn't have to relax or step away from his duties. I'm not

shouldering anybody's anybody's damage whatsoever. This community will take the words of of people who have some money, and we start letting them talk for us and to study being quieter, getting on issues from ass root folks who have been working. They just make these these these big old brushstroke statements and their clueles. We're the only community that let the p ditties and the cube make statements, you know. So

it's a lot to fight. But I think as we just stand in our truth who we are, and we gotta keep our heads on the swivel. But it's taxing. I mean, my son called me today, he was like, can you tell me the weight of a taser? Make it make sense to me? And I had to let him make full circle with his reasoning because there's no way he was trying to challenge me and my even

temperament because he wants to have the ship. I had to talk him out of what she should have been skilled and anybody trained to de escalate and talk him through, so that that's all that we are equipped to do. Um And I mean, you can see how Asian America, their men fight the women are women in their nail shops. They if one of our if they feel like one of their customer steps out, the man starts immediately fighting

the woman. So it's almost constantly that we've been put in these small characters until they want to dub something from us. I want to add on to that TC JAM because I think you also touched on a point that I I mean, I find it very important. Is that the fact that we constantly, as black folks in America or people of color, we constantly have to figure out like, well, let's try and rationalize is let's like

like how do we make this make sense? And I feel like that also adds to the mental health issue that a lot of us experience because we're putting these positions of where we have to figure out how to make it make sense and it's something that doesn't make sense, and that just continues to add on to the perpetual cycle. So I think that's also very important for us to understand that it's not our responsibility to make it make sense. That's that's that burdens shouldn't be honest exactly. I'm hands

down with you on that. It's not my problem to fix. I'm not gonna wake up and be a white woman with blue eyes. I like being black. It's not me too when all the time, but I like being black. I love my Melano groom, right. I like being just you guy made me. I always say that I'm not anti and nothing else, but I am pro exactly who I am. I'm pro black, pro black, trans, pro HIC. We pro all that. But you said, Janney, that they want they want that children want to play without children.

That's why I always used to say, and I still say, racism is a learned behavior. Little kids see other little kids the same size as them, and if they're not being told at home or hearing the nigger word, or you can't play with that person? Was there black? I see somebody that looked like me, not not physically look like me, but the same size as me, We're gonna be friends. It's always a parent or who's ever in charged to say you can't play with them because they're

not like you. What you mean, they're not like me? They're the same age as me. They they playing jack's like I'm playing jack's. They're playing jumper jacks like me. It is always some idiotic long term racists who hate himself or herself that and still let into their children's I e. What's the little boy name that shot the people that are doing the ritten house ridden house? I regularly as mammy who drove him over there to shoot the people, and then the police let him drive let

her drive him back. But I will say, though, I think that the small window of hope though, and TCHJ and you kind of said it too, is that it's the younger generations that are kind of breaking the cycle of the racism being taught in understanding the broader picture, and it's those folks that are going to be instrumental and really changing the trajectory of how we move forward at this point. So I think that's also going to

be the key point. You'all love to talk about millennials and who we are, but we're also turning out to be the ones that got the most sense. So I'm gonna just say that, you know, some of you guys go a little too much with hugging the tree. But I'm well, I know Laurence mama, so let me tell you something. It also came from. Like we've been talking about, who brought her up? Who raised straight up? My mom and my dad. I gotta give shout out to them.

But of course, but of course, and so you know, I think you guys are doing the shift and that's where it's gonna happen because my behavior is fine because we owe a fifty T T J and we're gonna just this is it, this is it age. For the first time, I thought you were thirty. I said I was with identified at thirty. But yeah, you know, this is identif. But for really, let's be real about this ship. I also identified as a female right now, but I

just pulled my dress up. I hope kid will move that out the way because I got no panties on. Y'all paid for that T shirt with no panties on. Bert jaff Thank you so much. You have brought as always as always, you always delivery information, you always and you're correct. I'm sorry our mayor elect is a Delta, but a black woman. It's all divine nine. It's okay, pronounce her name for us, Jane. What's her name? Her name is to Sharretta Jones Jones. Okay, thank you, Nick,

thank you, thanks go talk to you. Thank me so much. That's wage Williams. You'll make sure you'll follow Jan because Jan is always knowledgeable and always it's like the Hamlet. She's like, you know, Lauren Flame. That's one of the best things about one that things are opening back up and we will actually get a chance to meet many of your flame mats in person. Yes, we're going back on the road, honey, sixteenth. We finally got Delaware fixed.

We're going to the house and laughs. We got everything straight. And you have your first show in l A. I have a show with Tiffany Hattish and Huntington Beach. Who you think they could be rioting? You have depending on what you wear, you have caused the rioter to now come on the body. Ain't the saying that the riots now won't be They won't because I'm sexy, right, It's not gonna be like damn she think, baby, I'm gonna

tell you something right now. I had to watch my six hundred pound life yesterday just to get inspired, not to get beat. I didn't watch it. I didn't want you to be like, oh I watched that's one of them shows that look at you be like God, damn. I promise I gonna get that be here. Sometimes you need a little reality check. It's okay, but you have My mama is forre for me. She gives me my reality check every once in a while. Y'all. Please Donna say about Lauren on here because Lauren, baby, she'll be

at home patent. Oh my god, this was fun. Thank you guys so much. I just got here last minute. Good information. All I can tell you guys. My message, because I'm gonna nick Lauren close it out, is whatever this decision will be with this Derek show. In case, I'm telling you guys, please be someplace that you are familiar with that you feel very safe at, because I don't. I think I personally think no matter what the decision will be, the outcome will be not not pleasant. That's

some of the words I'm gonna say. Not pleasant, because we have people who want him to get off even though we have watched him murder this man. They still but They have a lot of people who want him to get off, and we have a lot of people like us who don't want him to go. We saw them, we saw the brutality, we saw the murder in our face. But this course system is not set up for us and this jilge. It's definitely not favorable towards the darker heat.

Maybe he needs a taser. No, I'm definitely in agreement with you. I think that this is a time where we all need to have a height and awareness and make sure that we're being safe. Um. I'm more so just want to say that I'm very grateful that one that we have this show because I'm just thinking, like, for instance, Flame came home today, she was mad at her kids. I had some other stuff going on work

wise and everything. But I'm glad that we have this space to share information because I think it's a it's an outlet for a lot of people that maybe don't have, you know, the opportunity to do that in their everyday lives. So I'm coming out of this, although we talked about some heavy subjects today, I'm coming out of this with a kind of bit of a weight lifted off my chest that I was able to, you know, kind of

release on some things. So I'm grateful definitely that we can, when we have this and when we can kind of, you know, engage all of our flamemts to frighten some people's days. Lauren, I'm so glad you said that, because I think when Flame and I started this, we we've known each other long enough where we sometimes almost finished each other sentences. When you joined, it was like a breath of fresh air because it brought a different perspective. I'm like, WHOA, I didn't think about it that way,

and you said it before. You know, we we we can disagree and we don't have to be disagreeable, and I think that that's what the conversation is all about. Earlier this week, like I told you, I was in d C. And the White House is still behind a barrier. That breaks my heart because I do think it's one of the most beautiful buildings. But in the shadow of six Pennsylvania is Black Lives Matter Plaza, and I'm just reminded that once again the strength of community, the power

of my people. I am proud to be in this black skin. I have it adopted, and I'm owning my big blackness. I'm not. I'm not worried about anymore, not being light and attractive to people anymore. I'm just going to be who I am and move and on that space.

And because of situations like this, I have an opportunity to let things off my chest as well, like you just said, And I love love of the fact that we have an opportunity to this here on, laugh and learn, because again, we're not trying to get anybody to change their mind. We're just simply trying to get you guys to use your and some of y'all dumbmasses ain't got

no man. So I'm trying to give y'all a man because I'm telling you right now, if you want to do the science, let me before I close, I'm gonna staw some ship right now. Let me stop some ship. The science and the politics, the science and the politics. The science, then the lifestyle can says kills coronavirus. That's the science, that's and the politics. The science of the vaccine says testing. You know how many tests I fail,

including a couple of STDs. Coronavirus kills vaccine light sound that kills coronavirus, testing says we're testing you ain't testing ship on me. Uh. I want to say before we leave, prayers to DMX and his whole family, all his children, his baby mamas, and everybody who's involving him. I do not believe that he drafted that from a drug overdose.

He had been looking so good in the last few weeks and been speaking so well on about the Lord and just preaching and putting out positive messages and woo woo. I don't know what the after effect was. I don't know what happened with him. We've heard all these situations that coming out of all these sorts. I don't know. I wasn't there. I'm not a doctor. But prayers to d m May he rest in peace, because I still use party up when I do wrap numbers. That was there when I when I did party up. And and

Lauren may know more about this. To Lauren, I read something recently about d m X that Beyonce and jay Z are buying the Masters. Did you read that too, Yeah, I read that they bought the Masters um and they're trying to give the money to the kids. Yeah. I read that. If that is indeed true, that's amazing because you and We've talked about owning the act on your work. So yeah, well Beyonce. You know, Beyonce is amazing in anyway, great humanitarian and she loves her city. But I think

they were free and they were all friends. Her Swiss beats, jay Z, all of them are friends. I need some rich friends like that. Were you when you gonna get rich? I'm so right, But as long as we got love, we don't need money, right, don't nobody. I don't give it them A boy, no love. You gott even got the whole suit on. You ain't even got a whole suit on. I bet you ain't got the pats on. You know what, let us thank you so much for

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was is actually Friday nights. So when y're all at home after we do laugh and a love lounge and then that's when you gonna do that, because I always do love that. I was on Friday, even though I didn't do it this Friday, I was like, I wasn't humble. We're doing it tonight. You can follow Lauren Hogan. She has a YouTube page Lauren Hogan and she's Lauren our Money h on Instagram and on Facebook. And who am I where? Oh you got a lot? You got Monroe

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