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Why you mad Bruh?

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Maskless Trump supporters refuse to accept the results of the 2020 election - violent demonstrations hit DC. Three more executions are planned before the end of Donald Trump’s presidency on January 20th - Flame, Nick and guest moderator Lauren Hogan ask, ‘why the rush?’ The Flamettes weigh in! 

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Um. If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you know the name Flame, my role also known as my role Flame. Come in with last and come in with jam love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homice. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You know she raped? Shout towns on speak into the grown a second. We're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the end we leave it, which is a lift di spirit. Make

you want to revisit. So your first take a list of you folks say it slip, oh folks that we dig it. He don't do what you do? No kiss? Do what you don't? No kiss, do what I do? Fame were Flame. We welcome to Left Alone. We're flaming Nick and my beautiful co host today, Lauren Hogan. Hello, Dick, Hello, Hello, Hello Lauren? Hi Nick? How are you? I'm all right? I'm all right, you guys? Where are you? I am

home here in Little Rock Arkroosa. Because COVID restrictions, we're just trying to be as safe as with we can. We are and I get you back in a week or so. You'll be back, you know. But you know what to do. I ain't do indeed, you ain't got that that second check yet, I know what to do, you know, and that and the gloves and everything. It's just, uh, it's just there are ways to travel and try to be as safe as possible. Yes, well, we want to

welcome you all to laugh and learn. Thank you guys for coming on in with myself and with Lauren, and of course we're a part of Nick Smith and Nick. How was your week? How was your weekend? My week was good. You know, it's been a good week. Uh everything, you know, notwithstanding you know, like everything else, we've been working the day job and just trying to manage the

day to day of everything. And I think flame more than anything, it's been me just trying to figure out the best way to celebrate responsibly, you know, as we move into the holiday because as we've talked earlier this week, uh and over the weekend, I'm thinking that with the roll out of this vaccine, it may be an opportunity for us to protect ourselves and be a little bit safer as we get closer to with the holidays. And you know, I'm just I don't know, I don't know

what to say. I'm just hoping that maybe this will offer a glimmer of silver lining to that dark cloud. We will get around to the vaccine later down the lane. I don't want to have gas. If I stopped talking about that right now, it's gonna give me gas and I have popass chicken. So yeah, no, But you know, you know, I would like to talk to you about that move though, because that's what's been happening. You spent the entire Arm weekend moving. I've been moving for like

a week. And she had a drag sail. We can't forget that. And I had a drag sail. And thank you guys who bought the worth of clothes that you bought. I appreciate that. I still got some other stuff left. But if you missed out on and then you snooze, you lose that, you know, kind of like the President the Nikolas, y'all like missed out on a drag Oh, it goes hand in hand. Secondly, Nick, the move is

still going on. I will technically be officially out of my old place until my new place no later than Thursday, because I got a great cleaning crew coming on Friday. Laurence saw the house. She came back yesterday, so she saw the house, but Nick went before. Nick hasn't seen you know nick name come to work today, So how about you. I did a drive by, I didn't go in. No, it's it's really nice. And she has you have two backyards. Really, I have to backyard. Timmy has a place to run around.

So the move has been great. A lot of stuff other stuff is going on in my personal life, but I am here to work today and laugh and learn with you guys with the Flame Family, with Lauren, with Triple the producer, with Kindle the videographer, and we are here to give you all the show. It is so much going on. So Nickolas, since you can be here in studio with us, and I know we were trying to do the whole zoomie thing. Hold on, let me slide that week back. Just the tank see this one.

You know you get on the week moves. When I move,

it's like ludicrous. When I move, you move just like that. Hey, we will be bringing you ain't back and forth, back and forth because of the topics that we're covering today, and some stuff is very important and you are, Lauren are so um knowledgeable about some of the things that we're talking about today, and I'm going to really let y'all take the floor because what we want to do today is teach and get everybody ready for the aftermap or for the beginning of what is coming, because a

lot is coming. So we're gonna be going back and forth for you today. Is that who? That sounds great to me? You know, I think a lot of people are standing in line watching right now. So I do want to give a shout out to those who are in Georgia right now because today is early voting, the first day of early voting. A lot of people are sliding my d ms just to say, Nick, you and

Flame gonna remind people. We're definitely reminding people today, those who are watching the slide and then you know, hopefully people will take an opportunity to engage in early votings. There you go, and Georgia, Georgia. I know it's asking a lot. I know you guys think that it's asking a lot to get back out there standing land vote again. Do this again. But the importance of this vote is as as significant as the presidential vote, because if we do not take half of the Senate and get a

place where we have some kind of control. It's gonna be as bad as it was the last four years. He won't be in office, but Mitch mccona was still there and he is still blocking everything. So we have to get ourselves in a position to where we have some say so over what is going on over all American lives, not just blacks or browns, but all Americans. So our first topic, we're talking about the executions that Donald Trump is trying to push before he gets out office.

They just executed someone, when was it Friday? To right? That was bourgeois? Yeah, there was, it was Brandon Bernard was on the eleventh and okay, and there are five more in five different states, including uh women a white woman actually right? Yes? Right? Or what's happening is what what what happens is everyone is at the is at the FCC, which is the Federal Correction Complex and Terra Haled, Indiana. So regardless of where they may have committed the crime

or have been sentenced, they've all been transferred there. Uh. And it's Indiana that has been uh killing them so or or um carrying out their sentence. I don't want to be uh cavalier or callous about it because, as we discussed, you know, uh, these are people who were tried and convicted you know, by a jury of their peers. Um. The I think the larger question has been why have we reenacted the death penalty to actually carry these out? Because it's something that hadn't not been done in a

very long time. In fact, Lauren and I were talking about that. I think it has been more than seventeen years, Lauren or something like that. And it's just uh so, it just has a lot of people have said that these uh steps that some people believe to be draconian are being carried out, um and being carried out so quickly. Um so Yeah, that that that's a problem. And that is that is my question. What is his big rush to have all these executions done before he is out

of office? What did he have like twenty days? Nineteen days? And he's in a rushan kid, No, seriously, he's in a rush. Who pushed these execute just before he's out office? I want to know what is the urgency behind that? Why is he doing all of that? Yeah? Yeah, and and and and it's tough mm hm. And I mean it interestingly enough, it doesn't seem like there's a rhyme

or reason to it. I found it interesting though, that one of the individuals that is, you know, scheduled to be executed is a white woman, because initially I thought it was all people of color. So that was a pleasant surprise for me. Um. But in some ways, you know, people said it's race related. So I would be curious, Nick, what are your thoughts? Well, you know, I think, Um, I personally believe that we cannot exclude anything when it

comes to this particular administration, right, Um. I think that people often cite as an example the clemency that he gave to Um. Her name is escaping Alice Walker but ellis Johnson john but but to but to think that even that wasn't strategic in and of itself, I think it by his own stimation, he being President Trump, I think it played to a certain base, or he felt as though it would. I don't believe it was done out of altruism. That's my personal belief. Um. I believe

that it was definitely done with an agenda. But now is that the lady who was Alice Johnson and interesting in left with Brandon Bernard. She also reached out to Donald Trump again and said please, you know, stay his execution, don't do this, and he just completely ignored her. So that's that's also interesting too. So what is the motivation to your point, there's Alice Johnson where maybe it was a good look for you politically, or you know, what

was the rhyme reason to it? Because now it doesn't seem like you're giving a care in the world about these individuals being executed. Absolutely, and I know that there are death row experts and um those in journalism who are committed to this particular area. UM. I do know that supposedly, um it costs more to actually uh keep alive than it is to ex cute UM. I also believe that um uh families who have been victimized deserve some type of justice. So I think that it's um

it's a thorny issue all the way around. And it goes back to what our larger question was, why the rush? Why now, what's the deal and why these particular people When you have someone like say Scott Peterson, who you know, uh California, just remind our viewers, uh was the one who was tried and convicted uh in the Bay Area of of of killing his wife and his unborn child that he went fishing on Christmas Day, you know, and and he could not have possibly done it yet you know,

I think his wife's name was Stacy. All this escapes to me now, but it's just it's one of those things where it seems like there have been situations that have been extremely egregious, where justice has been delayed for families who feel that's a good point right there, delayed Dylan Ruth and it in the House delay because both of those should be Because I'm not gonna say that I don't believe in execution, or if I do believe

in execution, I am partially a vigilante. Let me just say that, if you do some ship to me, I'm coming at the OSS, you ain't gonna even recognize me because I ain't gonna look like this. I'm gonna look like somebody else. I'm gonna walk right up and you're gonnaven recognize me. You think she coming, she ain't coming. That nigger coming up, and they're gonna show up any who those are who should And you know, the privatized prison system when it's interesting, you said it's costs more

to keep them alive. They're they're making six hundred million dollars per day with the privatizing UH prison institutions. That's a big business. And guess who's in jail. It's it's modern day slavery. We're going to really call it what it is. It's modern day slavery. The industrial prison complex is definitely a real thing. Um. But you know that too raises issues because what also happens, and this is the ugly side that nobody talks about. Those prisons are

usually built in communities where there isn't much industry. They immediate lee by building that prison, create jobs, restaurants are able to have a constant flow of people all of a sudden, the tax base helps that community build classrooms. So it is, um, it's a tricky situation where, um, the the industry you get may not be the industry you really want. But at the end of the day, it's uh, it's a business, and unfortunately prisons should be I think about reform and not about being a money

making situation. But again, there are those who have studied this UH, this area inside out who who may feel differently. Lauren will tell you about who is helping to reform the prison system. Who is it, Lauren, Well, Kamala Harris did interesting. I know that she's had some controversy regarding, you know, her stay when she was the Attorney General of California, and a lot of folks feel like she

put us black and brown folks in jail. However, she did create prison reform for black folks for them to when they actually get out, to reacclimate themselves with society and those sort of things. So, I mean, there's good and bad with it, I will say, but in a lot of ways, Nick, I do agree with you. And I'm also trying to look at the comments too as we're talking about this. Uh, some people are saying that most of women of color are the ones that are

really on death row, which I didn't know that. Somebody just founded that off in the comments. Well again, I think that because um uh one, I don't know that to be a fact. But that wouldn't surprise me, right, because I do think that. Once again, I personally believe in flame. And I've had this conversation offline and I'll just share it here because I don't think this is a revolutionary in any way at all. I personally believe

you get the justice you can afford. I personally do I think that there are those who move in different tax brackets that will never experience, um, the court system, uh the way those who are not of means um

that being African Americans in some cases as well. I personally believe were I married to Nicole Brown Simpson, who may have allegedly had an affair, who may have allegedly been caught with her boyfriend, when I came home and had I had footprints leading back to my home and my shoe had been found, I don't know that I would have gotten away since I am not as wealthy as uh Mr Simpson was who was tried and who was acquitted. So UM, I don't know that I would

have earned an acquittal. Um is what I'm saying. But I want to touch on part of what you just said, Nick, because I think a great example we can bring up here is Khalif Browder. You mentioned how if somebody gets arrested, you know, if you are of a lower income, you can't afford bail. So a lot of people end up being remanded to actual custody and going to like Rikers Island, and that's what happens to Kali Browder and he was stuck there for three years because he couldn't afford a

proper attorney and couldn't afford bail. And and that that is the problem I believe with our judicial a system. Um. We were talking about this earlier to Flame a couple of weeks ago. Flame. You will remember there was a ballot initiative and I said, Flame, you know that was strategic where it was an older African American woman kind of looked like my mom. Remember, I said, Flame, that that's somebody's mother or auntie. Um. And it was all

about bail reform in California. You know, you remember what I'm talking about, Remember, Yeah. And I just thought it was such a powerful ad because it was very simple. It was something that suggested that uh, trying to come up with bail for a family member who may have made a mistake until they are actually trying to convict, it help me bring them home so that we can go through this together. That's what I took away from it, Um without them ever saying that, but it made it

clear that they're to me that they believe. Their argument was there are certain groups that have been removed from the process of being able to uh advocate at the same rate that those who are able to get bail can. Yeah, and here's the here's another Okay, y'all, don't hate me,

but here's another situation. So if I own my own home, if our own property, if I own a business, and I have to put my business on my property up to get my friend or my partner, or my wife or husband or one of my children out of jail, and they break bad on me and I lose my my property or my home, which has happened in lots of circumstances, and not just in the black community. You know, it makes people leary. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation again. And I understand about the finances of

it all. But the privatized prison system is fucked up. Let me just say that. And I'm saying on this side because when I was in prison, it was I was not in the privatized prison, and it wasn't like that. This was ninety one, So I was able to pick up the phone when I need to use the phone. If I had money on my books. I had tons of money on the books. I had just robbed the damn bank. I had like ten thousand dollars. In my book, I was able to go to commissary and do what

I needed to do. It's not like that anymore. Now there's levels and you have to wait for people's number to be on there. And and you know, we had everybody had a house phone at that time. I still had one of my old school but you could call collect and you know that you get to collect call from someone. So none of that is the truth. Now you have to have these cards, and the money has to be other cards, and people have to be scrutinized

through their phone system and it's real personal. Now, I wouldn't go to jail now, I'm gonna tell you right now, I ain't gonna do ship that's gonna make me go to jail. So see, please, don't nobody made me do nothing to make me go to jail, because you know, if you crossed the lane, I'm going to jail. Uh. And I just want to follow up on that because this this this is really interesting. You mentioned that, uh,

and maybe you can give some insight on this. Do you believe the way the system is set up it really is built to reform or do you believe that that that's a flawed it's it's absolutely built to fail. I went in jail because I did for the deceptive practice. But I was only in there for forty eight days. But in them forty eight days, I learned so many new tricks of scam and robbery while I was in there, So it was almost like going to school to learn

more tricks of the trade. Honestly, it really was. It was nobody was in We didn't have reform too. You know how they said they have their lives in places and what is their watch shoot program? THEIGGA twenty three. Iur like that we had none of that. We had none of that back that's this was ninety one, so we didn't have any of those things to teach us that when we get out, and then they put the X on your back, so you already listened as a criminal. You can't get a job. I was never looking for

a job. I was the entertainer. But think about the people who tried to get a job and because they made a mistake, they paid their death to society. But it was not good enough. They still had the X on their back, so they couldn't find jobs. They couldn't find work, so they go back to either the crime that they learned that they went to jail four originally, or the new one that they learned since they've been

in there. Because you learned a lot of crime in jail, because we all we will sit around and tell our stories. It's very different. There is not reforming, not in not in the Illinois River prison that I was in. I don't know about it. And it goes back to what you talked about also too. You mentioned this to me before you said to me Nick, people are going to find a way to survive. Of course that that that

that's just going to happen. So if I keep knocking you down when you get out and I've put this X on you and telling you, hey, you're back here, but you don't belong to us, you you because of that mistake that I said that, We as a society said that once you do X, Y and Z, you have paid your debt. But now it looks like that debt has come with uh an extra tax. Right. Um, we we that all of a sudden that wasn't good enough.

We're still going to marginalize you from employment. We're going to marginalize you from being able to vote, and participate in civic activities that affect you. So yeah, there, there's definitely, there's definitely a double edged sword. And I believe that so much of the prison system um is built on

profit and not necessarily reforming or rehabilitating people. Well, it's worse where you're at the South because they have changed gangs and they do we don't see, they didn't do all that and the knowing you guys had to chain gangs and they were doing cheap labor. You know, Uh, companies were higher than what do you call the companies when you have to do construction. Companies would go through the prison to high and even then the movie shall Shank redemps. And it's been going on like that in

certain states and stilly Is for years. Well, I think we'll remember now it's not unique to the South California. You all employ of federal prisoners on the fire lines. If it weren't for prisoners fighting have for these fires that you all just had. So I think that every state has found a way to monetize the labor of those who have been incarcerated. And I don't know that just because I'm incarcerated, I should Well, if you help

work this fire, you'll earn points. Uh yeah, maybe no, you know, so it's well, well, part well part of that, Nick too, I do have to interrupt you, because they did. Gavin Newsom just made a change of that where if you are helping to fight fires and put in a certain number of hours in the state of California, when you get out of prison, you can actually apply to be on the job now. So right, so things are changing.

But I'm gonna have to agree with Flame and say that being in the South is it's very different, I think, in my opinion, to be in a prison system. I think the best example of that was the movie Life. Even though it was supposed to be a comedy, it was very real. That's what was happening in the South during those times. And I don't know how much of that has really changed, because you can still ride through

the South now and see chain gangs, you can. Uh. Just a couple of weeks ago, I was um, I had the pleasure of city engagement in progress with the number of Trump supporters who were upset that the election had been stolen by Joe Biden. So um, not just there. I have never felt browner or you know, and all of a sudden, your best flame, what is it? Long bang's head down, walk fast, heavy, pal the baby. And

that's exactly what it was. Absolutely. Here's my thing about people continuously going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth to prison. I understand that you're being a circumstances in situations, but like you said, frequently, you're getting points. This ain't freaking fire amounts. You're not getting points to where you're gonna fla free. This is some ship. I'm not gonna keep going back and forth and back and forth to jail if I know that

this is not for me. And I hate for people to tell me what to do. I am very I hate for people to tell me what to do when I'm grown, and it's ridiculous. I'm not gonna keep going back forth to jail. And and I'm sorry to some of these brothers who keep saying that the system and the man I can't get a break. And that's just not black man, that's white ones too, because a lot of them keep going back and forth like it's an honor to go back and forth and back and forth.

You can't tell me, first of all, that you like Coochie and you keep going back and forth to jail because ain't no coochie and jail. Now, we do got some prison guys that will put out. Let me just say there's some female prison guys that will put out, especially in New Jersey, because there was a prison there. He had like four and pregny at one time. Four prison gulls all about him. I don't know. This is

the part of let me tell y'all something. You can't keep telling me you like girls and you keep going back and forth to jail because that girl that you're going with in jail ain't no girl. Yeah that's a he. She week And I said, what the funk? I said, open it up? You all right? You ain't gonna keep going back and forth and back and forth, back and forth. The deal something. I'm in love with my family. I love my woman. I love my your woman. At in there with you, I was in there with you, and

I just went and pee. I guarantee you I ain't know a woman. Do you know anybody personally going that ever went to prison? May female? Not off the top of my head, But I will say I do have a couple of family members who are now dead rest in peace that probably qualified and made did a bit that just wasn't shared. Yeah, it is. It is disheartening. And what it hurts. It hurts the family, It hurts

the children. It is it's sad, you know. And then the guy, especially when it's a male, because especially when it's even male, because women lose their children. Because I'll be watching Snapped and I'll be watching all these shows where the women go to prison and their children are spread out. I could not imagine not knowing what is happening with my kids, you know. It's it's that's that has to be tough, especially on imagine having a baby in jail, you know, then they take your baby. You

don't even get a chance to bond. Oh yeah, that's it's it's scary, it's scary. It's crazy. Uh, don't do the crime. They said you won't do the time. But what about when you're innocent. Well that's what's interesting. You know, what do you do in that instance when you can't afford to have an attorney that can actually look into your case and take interest in you. What do you do? Then? Go find me. I'm gonna start to go fund me page.

But those always don't pan out, Well, if you don't get the traction and recognition that you know, somebody popular would, So what do you do? Damn, Lord, don't put me on the spot. You know, I don't know, girl, you don't. I'm blowing up whether it is blowing and see what they think. So we're gonna let you introduce our next topic next that you can't be here in person. You bringing up the next topic. The last the actual last topic is the vaccine. We're not talking about that to

actually the last. Dare we open it up to ask people what they think about the latest headline with Governor Andrew Cuomo. UM, you know, just just to let everybody know what we're talking about. You and I had this conversation yesterday UH that we found a little bit UH troubling. It turns out, most recently what is making the headlines in New York UH the former stafford has accused governor of sexually harassing her for years now. Governor Cuomo denies this.

The accusation comes as President elect Biden considers Cuomo for a cabinet position Department of Justice, and the accuser UH is Lindsay Boylan and she's running for UH, an elected

office there in New York. But she says that this went on for years, um, you know, and it has a lot of people upset in New York because they're asking um a lot of questions and asking why maybe she didn't raise the issue before now because you know, out it was two thousand fifteen, right when her standing office that she worked with and now we just had about made a very valid point. I hit you out with this point that she brought yesterday. So this this is how I feel. I think that all women should

be heard. If they make the accusation, it should all it should be taken, you know. Seriously. However, my concern is the timing why now? And I've seen a couple of people in the comments say the same thing. Because Trump is on his way out. We know for a fact that he and Andrew Como have not gotten along for these past four years, especially since after COVID hit.

They're constantly going back and forth. So while of a sudden is there an accuser now, and and he's had this long, outstanding career, and all of a sudden we have this accuser on the midst of all that's happening. It's it looks a little odd to me, I'm not gonna lie. However, if she has facts, she has receipts, I think she could present her case. But I am a little skeptical. What's her name, lindsay boy la fact

picture of it? Let me see what she looks like? Yes, because you know they say who she ain't got no face? But let me but everybody get their drawn points. I'm telling you right now, let me start. And I think to just to echo what Laurence said. You know, we talked about women, but also men. I think that anyone UM who has UM a story to share should be able to share that story. UM. I think that UM, it is also a difficult burden to tell people when

they should tell their story. UM. I think that sometimes people uh feel more secure in theirselfs in their position when they feel like they can come forward, or maybe they takes a while to get the strength. We know those who are adult men who still have trauma from their experience in the Catholic Church. So I would I would suggest that it is possible that it's a difficult position to be in and then to come forward and

then to have your story question. Let me just say, what ain't nobody else gonna say it's a fucking scam is running the Boston She's must be Trump didn't promised her son. Trump is on such a war path on his way out that that's why he's pushing his execution, because his career has just been killed with him not being president nobody. He is four d and twenty million dollars worth of dead. He can't get money from anyone,

He can't borrow money from anyone. All the money that he has has now is what they have fornagled in the last four years since he has become president. Because I think this is the richest that he has ever been in his whole career, including what is the money his daddy gave him before when he was the last because the daddy was the gangster. Understand that Trump is nothing the daddy Don John was a gangster for real. We have we we've seen reports where even uh Mary Trump,

his his sister um uh the former justice out of Philadelphia. Um, she has talked about how uh Donald wasn't the smartest one in the family and that was partly what their father would talk about as well. And more than that, I think less the executions. Um. I think that if we want to maybe um uh, step back and take a look at why is the president possibly doing something. I think that it's fair to ask why decisions around preemptive pardons are being considered, you know, including for himself,

including for himself, for himself, and that's illegal. It's a legal I've seen the study that say it's illegal for him to partner himself. But we're gonna get back to Cuomo because let me tell you what's gonna happen on the receiving end. Because Chris what his fan is, Chris Cuomo, Hebrew. Chris Cuomo is very, very family oriented. He does not like anyone attacking his brother Andrew. He restricts him and

he calls him the government of New York. But when you personally attack his family, baby, when I tell you Chris Cuomo gonna hand to our ass tonight, don't see anything. I'm gonna be watching. And when Chris Cuomo get angry, his as get a deep, deep green and he swelled up like a big Italian. Oh. It just does something to me, you know. Uh, it's it's um, it's tough. I am interested in um uh you know, lindsay, I'm sorry,

miss I don't. I don't know her a picture of She's very average looking, not to say she's bad looking, but she not. She not shaking it up like that. She ain't no flameing row. Let me just say. And I want her to have space to share her story, and I hope that she is uh finding a space to heal. If she isn't, hasn't he been victimized? And was it just me? Because Nick, when you read the story, were you a little confused at first with her tweets?

Because I was, yeah, because initially she brought her mom into it and said this was something her mom would never experience and she was pushed into a wall and kissed, and but it was about her, So I was like, wait, who's the accusation against this is your mother? Is a you? Hey, ladies, well hello, gorgeous T T j Ann. Can you hear me? Okay, I hear you? Just fan. I see you got your mask around your neck. You are doing a T T j N. Yes, yes, but actually it's cold. Here's my sweater.

But you know, I'm I'm sighting with you guys. I do smell a rat and it's not unusual, you know what I mean? Because although these things were put in place to protect women like to be heard to provide a platform here recently, as soon as variables are put in place. Two, you don't give the injured or the victims a platform. It's the rich white men and women who take advantage of it. Because if this was an issue,

she would have said something long before now. And not only that, because I do know that you have to heal within your own time. Um. But it's right when all these people, him and Biden, I'll say, came up to their their platforms, that even the young lady who said that she he would come up, Biden would come up behind her and kiss her or whatever. It's always you know, used as a distraction. And you know it's coming from the Republicans because they use these tools. They

don't want to help victims. They want to see people who don't have a lot of power sucked up in assessible. So these things are put in place. How long has or was Harvey abusing these women? I mean some men came out and spoke up for women who had been abused by Harvey. But when we got bick splashes, then you saw all these people in the floodgates just kicked open. So this none of this behavior is surprised that she knew that she would be heard before Lauren or myself.

But now it's a topic because of the staging of the time. Let her have her time. But something needs to be in place to look at these people who are abusing these these these platforms, because there are wounded parties out there. Kumo has been the perfect ex husband and ex boyfriend said by his ex girlfriend and wife. I mean, his girlfriend is a breast cancer survivor and he took her, picked her up and nursed her back

to health. He didn't have to do all that as an ex, so you know, And I'm not saying because sometimes we can be cards on women. She don't look like this, she don't look like that, but she probably wanted him her dreams to get up with Kumo and he never blinked at or twice that I kind of feel that way too. And I'm just saying, if these accusations are accurate, where are the text messages? Is their emails? It was there a witness, Just where's the proof? Where's

the video? Where's the picks? Like, where's the dick picking? If you ain't got a dick pick and if you got a big dick just to what Jeff Bezos did. Jeff Bezos maybe that when I was opening at other albums closed, he said, show you know, where is it at? But I see somebody crying for attention that he never

looked twice at. But I also think too though, in a lot of ways, this is my opinion again that because all of the you know, sexual assault allegations came out against Trump, I do feel like sometimes they use that kind of as a way to get back at Democrats and say, oh, look they're doing the same thing of what you accused our forever president of. You know.

So I think there's also that, you know, well, let's let's even the playing field here, which is so unfortunate to use a topic like sexual assault to be kind of like that toy thing that we can just play with when it's a really serious matter. There's a serious matter. But look how many people got taken notice when the floodgate for the meat too movement came about. There was a largely a lot of white men who got called

on the carpet. Black men too. But oh yeah, don't get me wrong, but largely you had a lot of rich white men. And so they're angry about that because they're wise, the people in the in the office, everybody knew about this, but there it came to a point in in time that it was not going to be

ignored anymore. I mean, it's so right now people are angry and they just use it the way they want to, you know what I mean, how does somebody want to know if it's you know, uh racial um if the guy the jack Jake Paul got knocked out the the athlete in the in the first and so now they're posting a question, was that was that a racial deal? I mean, you know, how to use the verbage. I think people use it wrong because they are angry that we're taking notice to what has long been going on.

Cormo knew what he was doing to help New York, to help his city, and he did everything that he needed to do. And it's and it showed Trump up. And now here's this rushstass vaccine and Cuomo still has his own man. Cuomo is an independent thinker. To now look at the difference with Cuomo in New York and the Santis in Florida, who all who went along with everything that Trump said, look at Kemp and Georgia who now Trump and threw him up under the bus. It's bullshit.

I hear you what you're saying. And back to the whole me too thing, because Terry Crews came out and said the man walked up to him in front of his wife and took his hands and put it down his pants and grabbed his junk. First of all, Terry Crews, you you let that happen because you're a big ass black man. You should have punched the ship out of Execondly, your wife was standing there. If she is gangster, she said, she would she should have jumped in, which both y'all

should have whipped his ass on the red corpet. Now that I would have paid money for that. I would have paid money to that. Well, t J and thank you for traming in. You know, we always look forward to get your insight, lady. I want to say that, though, but Jim made a point about whole this wold me too things. I love that they had the marches and so many women were recognized for what was happening with

that going on. But like what she said about Gariel Union and Terry Crews, I don't like defense riding as me because I don't know what Terry crew stands. I don't you know. You you one day, you hear, the next day, you hear the next day. I just need you to make up your mind. And but sometimes I think it's also too for media attention that he did that he just wanted some attention. I don't understand that ignorant.

He made some ignorant comments regarding race. It was just a period of time or Terry Crews just made a lot of dumb comments and after a while you were just like, Okay, you're just seeking some attention here, that's all this is. Well, maybe you need to Maybe he needs something that he ain't getting at home. What y'all think he needs. I ain't gonna see it out loud, but I want to see it. But I don't want

to get my show kills something. You know, I say something ship and don't give two funks with Andrew Cuomo. I just want to applaud Andrew Komo for at least sticking to his guns and what he thought because he was he is then of New York. The decisions that he made for his state was from him, not from the top who made bad decisions, and that's the sensis. Let me just say, if you ever watched SpongeBob SquarePants, Patrick the Starfish is the dumbest person got damn up

to see baby, let me tell you something. The statist reminds me of, uh, what's his name? Reminds you of Patrick Starr reminds me of Patrick the star from SpongeBob square dumbest shit and all you Floridians that follow him interesting too, because if you think about the Cuomo and the rest of your ran Trump out of there he lives. They only want that. Hi down, you look good, Hi don Hey, how y'all doing? You joined us? We need

your intake on Cuomo. I'm just hearing about it because I've been driving all day when you talked about it, and I agree with t t Jan said. But this day and age, why isn't that these women can't handle these men? When a man us out of land with you, you handle him. Now, what's what's exactly handling? Okay, I can insult you and talk about you, that's one way

and another way how I handle it. Either you're gonna stop right now and we're gonna pretend like it didn't happen, or I'm gonna come out and you're gonna be paying me for the rest of your life. But that doesn't always worked on because look, Anita Hell was on This happened twenty five years ago with Anita Hell with what's this what's his name? With Clarence this day and age flame now. But we just had the same situation with Brett Cavanaugh and the professor that came out against him.

He still got elected to the Spreme Court over again. See doing everybody ain't as keisha as you, So you ready get keisha and square up? And what about a timid woman? What about a woman who had don't have the surety that you have, and somebody's just taking advantage of her on a regular time. So what about that you alone? And that comes from your mother or whoever raised you. Because I know your mom, so I know your mom is a beat So I know you're going

to speak up and stand up. Those are the children I raised. But what about the women who are insecure and who are afraid of losing that situation, which is their job? What about them? You know who's going to speak on that? And so nobody's gonna believe them because you're timid and you mealy mouth and you're scared. That's why you need to speak up for yourself. Yeah, but I think to your point though, for some one minute

is hard, you know what I mean. And then it's when when you do speak up to my original point is are you believed? You know, it's kind of turns into it he said, she said, and then it's like your credibility is on the line. So it's it's a really touchy subject. But in this instance, I will say specifically, I'm on the fence. I don't know if I believe her. That's just my pH. I ain't on thefense. I don't believe that beat you. Let me be clear, I am not all the fence. I don't believe her. I'm back

to you out on the timing. If this eighteen, then why you didn't say nothing in eighteen when you position and you're bringing this up when you're running for a state position in office? Now, which partisanship is that? Is that she running for Republican or Democrat? You know what? Let me look that up because Republican. Then I understand that, Oh yeah, you're running for this position because you're trying to get in because you know, Trump is on his

way out. And uh to all the Supreme Court justices, even the ones that I don't care for. Right now, I love all y'all because y'all told that Nigga not know, but he'll know. She's a Democrat. She all, she's a Democrat. Also, she got a check. I wonder she get the same check that little Wayne and Kanye got because they all got a check to Uh, they got a check to say, yeah, we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that. I did get a check Cuba's back defended himself all of

a sudden. Who knows who knows? Because you know, he technically lied. He said that nobody reached out to him, honey, please from the Biden Harris team, and which wasn't true. Baby. Let me tell you something y'all have to make a decision with you. Is why we have been caught up in the slave metality for so long a lot of times they didn't know what was going on with us. We told on ourselves. We're still telling on our damn salves. I ain't telling my people and all the blacks that

then crossed over white folks y'all can have them. Kanye little Waane. You know he's facing ten years in prison. Yes I do. And he just let me show you how smart little Wayne is. He told y'all to hold y'all vote and vote for Trump. This nigga just sold his masters. He sold and he's rich supposedly, but he sold his masters. Who sells their masters when you already rich.

I'm just telling you somebody is drinking cough served they drinking night quill, but they might need to drink day quill because they've been sleeping to God, his slow ass if he don't know what's up. Candice owns, y'all can have them. We don't want them back. Y'all can have those black people. We don't want them back. Give me the beach that was running the nuble, a CP that was pretending to be us for years because she never doing something bother the bus. She just pretended to be

a black sister. What was her name? Remember they caught? Yes? Yes, those Yeah, we'll take her. Y'all can have them. Ship. I don't want help where you ad Nick James? Wait a minute, let me bring James because James said they are burning flags in DC, writing the Proud Boys are fighting with Black Lives Matter folks. Yeah, I've been seeing that all over social media because James is in DC. James, Yeah, there's I've seen a lot of videos of just the

Proud Boys. They went to a historic, you know, black church. They ripped down a Black Lives Matter banner and lit it up and set it on. I got a question whether black people in the church n see that you got right there because they go on to Sunday morning into a black church and for that ship with black pruisitions are in there because you think they saved. Black folks will come out there and get jiggy with your ass, with the whole armor of God against that ass. Baby.

But what was being said was it was interesting. There was no police, there was no tear gas, nobody was breaking it up. Now, if it was just a group of Black Lives Matter protesters, they were like, this would have aren't been the same situation. Police would have been everywhere, people would have been tear gas. And that's not what happened. We're still living in the damn racist as country. What's

gonna happen when he leaves? The racism gonna stay? Of course, it is because guess what, They're just gonna go back in the closet. They're just gonna go back in the closet. But you know, Lauren, I'm gonna say this. I think that what's also interesting when they have these demonstrations like that, Um, for anybody, I'm trying to give you the perfect analogy. But where this happened, um is downtown d C. And anyone who lives in d C will tell you, UM

that they really wanted to make a point. They could have gone right to Prince George's county, they could have gone to Anacostia. They were very selective and where they chose to show their outrage. So they ain't crazy, they just want you crazy. It's the flaming would be analogous to oh, we're gonna tear stuff up on Michigan Avenue. Well, why don't you come on over the king, come on over here. Uh, we're gonna we're gonna stay on down here and talk about why, Uh you know Mr Chump

should be president. You're you're selective in your outrage and where you choose is that is that the word that we're using, selective or you know you're gonna get your ass handed to you. Let me just say what y'all need to be heard. They will get the ass handed to them coming in those in daytime or in nighttime, because we're not afraid anymore. We're not running and hiding. We're not running from your your water hoses and your dogs. We got some ship to slow you down. It's called

hand jewelry. If you're not familiar, absolutely, because you know, listen you when you are doing all of this that I'm gonna just throw it out there. If you're a fourteenth in k uh, anybody who lives in d C would tell you there's nothing there but businesses. You weren't trying to make a statement. You know where you could have gone if you really wanted to shake some things up.

And that's not what they did at all. They were they were very they knew exactly what they were and we're not doing Wait a minute, it's fourteenth in k Isn't that the host rohitrification? Oh yeah, but I am I knew that was a hostro for personal reasons. I'm just saying I did know. I knew some corners over this. There's a very lovely Italian restaurant that I like on the fourteen streets you. So, yeah, it's all changed a bit, so their outrage. Uh, I'll be into to know what

James has to say. When James comes back with his headphones, let me know and I'll get on out of here. But he's absolutely right. They knew what they were doing. Um, I'm telling you, I'm telling you this is what I know having lived in d C. They knew that being down there, they were outraged and upset and we're breaking things that. Um, if they really want to do it up, they could have gone to different districts. They chose not

to do that. Um, they chose to engage with police instead of engaging against people that they have been marginalizing and calling out and blaming for um, President Trump's loss. So there you go. But a couple of fights did break out though, because some Black Lives Matter protesters did show up and there are some fights. I saw some videos and I think like two people got arrested last night. Sure, but but but you get the gist of what You're right.

You're absolutely right. They know where to go. Look yeahll know, look ye'ah all know what to do. I literally I reposted it on my Instagram because I thought it was so funny. You know how you get on the internet and it kind of sucks you in, and somebody posted

Joe Biden has won this election so many times. He's the sixties seventh and you know they're counting the electoral votes right now to so today's d Day with the election officially so, and I please count it in English, Spanish, German, uh, Yugoslavian, broliving all that, because guess what, nigga, in every language

you lose. James, what's your guy going on down there in Washington, d C. I So the gist of what I've been able to get out of it is that obviously that there was another pro Trump protests this weekend that was much smaller than one last month, but it had much larger numbers of Proud Boys in the area.

And they were marching in between the capital in the White House National Model Area, and the police had Black Lives Matter Plausa corned off because they thought that was a place that they were area they were going to target. And apparently because they had that corned off the Black are the Proud Boys started getting a little upsets, started splintering, basically essentially looking for trouble, and which is when I mean what Lauren talked about, she saw some of the

fights breaking out. That's when some of these groups started splintering off and intentionally going to counter protesters, looking to antagonize. Twentiessothing people got arrested, four people were stabbed in critical condition. Two police officers are also in critical condition this weekend. And then on top of that, they intentionally targeted a row of businesses and churches, but specifically caused vandalism to churches, two of which were of historic black colleges or college. Jesus,

my brain is not working today. Churches, and I mean with the Luthering church that's in the area, they basically just torn down signs and tried to intimidate some of the pressures out front. But with the Black churches, they basically took it to a whole another level. Or one of them, they tore down the side and marsh with it on the street, shouting this is our streets, and

then eventually stomped on the Black Lives banner banner. The other church had a banner and a sign they tore down that vandalized a little bit of the church, then lit the banner on fire in front of the church and took video of it. Yeah, that's the video that I saw. Here's my issue with that, James, I knew you a white man. You know I love you to deaf. James is the manager d C Comedy Lift. I be

then mate thirteen through the fifteen shameless plug. Let me just push you any who uh they know when they know to go to those black churches when they closed, because if you ever thought of black church and black folks was only in love with God and Christian disrupt their service, they will they will do some damage to your ass. So they knew to go when it was closed. Second, about if the Proud boys are in d C. I bet you the rent boys are making tons of money

because you're the proud boys. Like dicks up they asked the ram boys is the ones that they turn the trick with. I bet you if you check the ass that the ring boys have made tons and tons of money off the proud boys because they're proud boys at night, but they're proud ladies in the daytime. I said what I said, they ain't gonna do ship to me because I'm ready for you. Come over here. Proudly. They're gonna carry you away, and I'm gonna be standing proud with

me ship. But I mean it's just I mean even just not even beyond the optics. I mean basically a modern day cross burning in front of a church, and nothing that they can do is going to make the outcome any different. He has lost so many times they keep recounting and recounting, which is costing taxpayers money. And then it's just ridiculous. He lost. They don't want to accept defeat. But it's over. Yeah, but he's he's won

one case which didn't win him any votes. They were uncounted ballots, and he's lost in the neighborhood of about sixty cases. Well, even the recounting that he you know said needed to happen in Georgia, and Georgia Biden ended up getting more votes after the recounts happened. So, I mean, we already said the electoral colleges in the midst of voting right now, so this will be finalized today, it'll befal means California, it's California transmit snares, which they start

either actually they should be starting right now. Yeah, so within the next hour, they'll transmit their ballots and then that's that's the end of the game. And we're yeah, and we know California ain't voting for him, California all the way blue. I mean, he got some people here. I remember election night it said five percent of the vote was in and they had already called it for

Joe Biden. California. Yeah, you ain't got none coming out of California because the whole next the next step of this process is that both Houses of the Um, both chambers vote on January six, whether they accept the votes. It's just a simple majority in each chamber and it only takes and it would take both chambers to basically overturn the election. And there's no way the House by itself is going to do that when it's majority Democrats. So, I mean, at this point, it's done it over with all.

It's just rhetoric between now and then at this point. Yeah, well, James, thank you. You stay safe down there. But you know I'm coming, y'all keep the DC comedy. I'm open because Mother is coming. Mother voucher. It doesn't matter when week open, not if we opens, Well open up now. I'm telling me you gotta tell me I gotta take a vaccine. Yeah, I'm gonna see you what they call a hologram because I ain't with the vaccine. Thank you, James my Darling.

Y'all follow James at DC Comedy Love. That's a great place to be when they open back up, you'll meet me there. Uh So, vaccine, Lauren, let's bring in Nick. That's this last topic of the vaccine, very very scary. Yes, you see his name there, he is right there. Yeah, I'm surprised. I can see that you did hit some requests, okay, because you know my blandness can't see here. So yeah. So with the whole vaccine thing, we see that they having it out. It's early as today and tomorrow. Right,

people have been on TV all morning getting vaccinated. I've been watching it all morning. Okay. Let first let me say let me start off as saying this, I'm not taking it. Okay, let me see it again. I'm not taking it. How about you, Lauren, I'm not taking it. I told you I don't get a flu shot. Okay,

I don't get a flu shot. Let me just say that I understand that certain you know, vaccinations are required, but anything with the name ached attached to it of operation warp speed does not make me feel that sounds like some some sat Fast saying vaccines take five years to develop and this one was developed in nine months. I'm so sorry. Yeah. The challenge with all of this is m I believe the messaging right. UM, I personally will indeed get vaccinated. Right. I feel like I have

responsibility to do that. Um. UM. I have family members are older, I have family members who have comorbidities. I don't move into space where I get to only think about me, so I will take the vaccine. I also believe that UM. African Americans are sometimes put in groups where we're afraid of everything. Oh lord, we we we don't swim. We we're afraid to be in the rain. We And I think a lot of that is meant to in many ways make us seem like UM, flat earthers. UM.

Guess what. I do believe the world is round, UM. I do believe in science. I do believe that two plus two equals four. UM. I do believe also, UM, that God is real. So I think that we can be a lot of different things. I also believe that in many times, UM, the tougher decisions are the ones where we sometimes have to take the lead and and

and sometimes stand up UM. And I believe that my community, which continues to be decimated by this virus, needs people like me who are UM, moving, walking, having a platform UM to speak and try to be a positive influence uh for for the change that we need, particularly since it is my community and people who look like me

who are being disproportionately affected by this virus. I hear what you're saying, Nicklas, and I'm gonna I'm gonna oppose everything that you see it as far as when it comes down to black people, it's being or we're afraid of this, or we might we don't swim. I'm not taking it for my for the reasons that I want you. I'm not concerned about I'm somebody else's feelings. I am concerned about my children, but I take the precautions to protect my children and people around me, starting with the

lightsol what have you. I'm not gonna let nobody tell me or with black people are slow, because it kind of sounded like you threw us up under the bus to say black people were kind of done, We're kind of behind the time. When have they given us anything first? We've still been waiting on our forty acres and the mules since they brought us over here. And Emancipation Proclamation was saying in eighteen sixty six or sixty seven, Funk

that I don't trust them. I don't trust it because from the top and from the very beginning, there have been too many stories. You cannot muddy the waters with me. I don't like fence riters. It's either this or it is that. There is no in between. We're never first for anything. I'm not going to allow you to put something in me operation warp speed, like Laurence said, that sounds like a science project, because I want to procreate.

I'm afraid that they are trying to do a Tuskego experiment on me, because we we didn't find about the about the Tuskegee experiment until many years after. So now I'm supposed to let you inject some ship in me, and then we found out thirty years four years down the line. Oh it wasn't good. Your children can't have children. You're growing a damn plant out the back of your neck. No, thank you, I'm cool. I'll take my chances if I can't work, then I can't work. If I can't travel,

then I can't travel. But I will not be used as a science experiment. After sitting in my house for ten months, I haven't been on stage in ten months because of the lack of judgment from administration. That you guys were so angry. Let's go back to the source and to the root of this. These races were so angry that President Barack Obama, black man, did a good

job for eight years straight. Nothing you can say to find anything bad about this man that y'all put a fucking clown in the office that allowed you all to be able to speak and be who you wanted him to be, because he will say how you really feel

because you can't say publicly. So all this racism and hate has come out, then you get this inadequate, asked Dr Dr Fauci, who everybody seems to trust, including Biden, who was a part of the AIDS experience in the eighties, who pushed a z T to kill so many people, so many people die because they said a z T will kill AIDS. That was the truth. It killed AIDS. What it all the reason that killed AIDS? Because it killed you so you died with the AIDS, But the

AIDS kept spreading and spreading and spread. I'm not I'm just not up for the guinea pig. I'm not an experiment. I got enough ship going on. I don't want to experiment. I got fake titise, bas silicon. All that come out well for me. Like I said, it's it's it's the title that makes me weary. Operation works. But in general, I'm wary of all vaccines. I remember when the HPV vaccine came out. You had to do a series of

three shots. I was wary of that. You know, every vaccine that has ever come out, it has caused you know, people to kind of panic that I don't want to take it. However, I think what's different about this one because it came so fast. There's so many possibilities of something going wrong that can happen. And these doctors and you know, fives and all these different ministrations, they're like, we don't want the liability though something bad happens. That

doesn't make me feel good. And also too, I will just say this, you know there's side effects coming out. I saw two days ago it was saying if you have allergies, you know, maybe you shouldn't take it. Well, what allergies qualify for me to not take this vaccine. There's people saying that they're getting belts, palsy, their faces, you know, they have face paralysis, but they don't want

to actually attribute it to the vaccine. I need some more experimenting and something to happen for me to feel comfortable. Last week we said, you know, o SOCCA Japan. The university is like, we don't want to give this to our citizens yet because we think some more trial runs need to be made. But Donald Trump and his whole administration is so focused on being the first that everything he has to win races. It doesn't make me feel comfortable to say, Okay, I feel confident that I can

inject this virus because I'm injecting myself with COVID. At the end of the day, that's what I'm doing. I don't feel comfortable to inject my body with COVID and know that I'm going to recover. There was another woman she got a fever of a hundred and five degrees. That seems your territory. Some people don't recover from that. For me personally, you know, I have family members like I have a mom, I have a dad, I have

a brother. I don't I don't want to leave this earth at this time because of somebody's telling me to take something. I don't get a flu shot. But at the same time, Nick, I do understand what you're saying, and I do appreciate your courage and your honesty, I will say, and I think I think a couple of things too, you know, UM. I think that one we all need to UM encourage everyone to read and make decisions for themselves, right UM, because I definitely think it's

individually based. I also believe too that some of the side effects we have seen have been assigned to a particular maker. UM. I know that they're like three different makers out now. There's Fiser, there's buy in Tech, there's also Maderna, So we have competing companies competing with different vaccines. One of the vaccines requires two injections, so they're giving

people a car to kind of track that. I think that it's going to be a lot like since you use the analogy flame earlier of like a z T I think, as you know, UM, there are members of the community who take UM tru Vada. There are members of the community who take disco vie. There are those who take baktar v. Baktarv causes black people to gain weight. Some people like I ain't taking that baccarvery because it

make them gain weight. Disco Vie may be perfect. Uh. There are those who will stick with the older medication. I think science inherently changes. I have relatives who used to be a diabet who are diabetic that I remember my uncle used to have to keep the insulin in the refrigerator and and do the shot. Now none of

that is necessary. And my point is, I think that as we learn more and as science evolves, the fear around UM treatments that were done in the early years would say AIDS and a z T. Thanks to groups like act UP who fought the medical community and Dr Fauci, who was the only one who would meet with a marginalized community and say, you know, we got to do something. Let's try something when the government at that time was

denying it was even real. I think to continue to pillory, uh, those who are trying to do something, when we see that the economy has been decimated, when we see that certain communities continue to struggle with this. We have to do something so that kids can go back to school, my mother can go back to her church, people can get back to shopping. And if if I as uh, someone who lives alone, won't step up, then who will? And I think that's well, that that's that's fair, that's fair.

But here's the have and have nots of it. Rudy Giuliani almost asked to get COVID. And I'm not saying that to be mean and shady, but you walked around with no mask, You went to all these parties that Trump had, You were out here at these self spreadors. Then you catch COVID nineteen, You go to the hospital and you get the antibodies. So in three days, you're

perfectly fine. If you're not giving us who are poor people, because I consider myself a poor person the antibodies, then don't push no other ship on me, no vaccine because whatever he'll trump Milanna bearing Trump because all of them had tested positive for COVID. But they're getting the antibodies. When you're trying to push three different companies of vaccines, that's like giving me a Coca Cola or giving me

an RC that's royal crown. It's old school. If you don't know about that, that's like giving me an RC when I ordered coke. It's bullshit. I don't want the bullshit. Give me the same thing that they're getting, or give me absolutely nothing, because I'm telling you, I think that the experiment they're trying to use, we're gonna be all walking around here like zombies, and I'm afraid of zombies personally. I really I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate. What are

those pricings too for the antibodies? We went over that yesterday too, absolutely, and who can afford that three ten thousand dollars for regular people? Flame, Lauren, You know what it reminds me of Someone said something once and I thought was really interesting. Imagine if everyone listening today, or everyone who participates in the civic process of voting, Imagine if we all collectively demanded the same healthcare that our elected officials get. Can you imagine, like we don't even

think that way. Can you imagine if we have the same coverage as Schumer, if we have the same coverage as President Trump or uh anyone else who is elected to serve the people. Imagine a world where we all had access to healthcare and eating good food, and not just from the bodega that only served You know, the reason people go to fast food restaurants is because it's convenient in many of them are working two and three jobs and just want to put food on the table

for the kids. No mother, I don't believe, or father I believe, walks in saying, you know what, I'm just gonna feed my kids a diet of fast food because I don't care. You know, what they're trying to do is I want to spend as much time with my kids as I possibly can because I've been working all day or I'm working two jobs, and I just want to get something on the table where we can all

sit there and eat together. And and the fact that everyone doesn't have access to quality fruits and vegetables, and the fact that this administration just to go back to that and bring it full circle. The first thing they did when they moved into that White House was tear up a garden that the former First Lady had planted because she wanted to just simply send a message up, It's easy to plant your own fruits and vegetables. That's all. There was no no agenda beyond the fact that hey,

let's eat healthy, let's move. They couldn't tear that thing up fast. Well, it's never gonna happen here, Nickolas. What you said about us all getting fair treatment, that's Canada, you want fair treatment. Canada has taken care of their people since this whole pandemic hit from stimulus money. They getting what two or three thousand dollars a month, They got free healthcare, They have everything that we in Germany,

everything that we don't have. When they keep hollering that America is the greatest country on earth, but we're not showing that because we put somebody in a position of power who has actually pulled the blanket back and exposed the DNA on how ugly America really really is. So now everybody see what we've been going through for so many years. We can't even get a second stimulus check. Exactly, he holding the money. He said he was gonna release

the money after the election when he won. He didn't win, so y'all not getting the check. So for those of you all who voted for him and you got the first check, I told you to save your money, but get your uber a lift to get your older second time. But he lost it anyway, so good for him, unless I forget Australia. Australia also got ahead of this too. You know, every every country except America. We can just say that because of the commander in chief, because we

put a narcissist, ridiculous, unqualified fool in office. Because they were so angry that the black man and the black woman did a good job. I ain't gonna even say great. I think, even though I think President Obama is great, but the arguments say, people say, well, he didn't he came up claim he didn't do this, he didn't do that. He also didn't have all this scandal. He people were

not standing in LANs. Have you guys seen the lines where people are waiting for food for hours in hours just to get a bag of food to feed their family. It's fucked up. I think Miami was probably the biggest shock for me. That line. I don't know if you saw that. To the food bank in Miami was literally wrapped around the block and people were really bundled up as if it was cold out there too, And I was just like, what is going on? This administration put

us here? This administration put us here Nicholas and and oh, I can believe the great I also believe this administration is also partial, is wholly responsible for the fear right. I think, imagine, imagine it had the messaging been you know what, I'm gonna do all that I can to make sure that we get a situation where everyone flamed. People did not have this resistance around polio. There's a reason why messaging matters. There's a reason why leadership matters.

And and I feel like the buffoonery uh that was engaged with this particular leadership and or lack thereof, has caused so much fear and mistrust. So people continue. We're at three hundred thousand people did and counting and counting and counting. They saying that somebody dies every thirty seconds. So we're gonna be on here for an hour. You know how people died in this hour, And we're going to have a dark winter. When I heard that, I didn't know what that means. That I thought a game

of Thrones. I was confused, What does a dark winter mean? What does that mean that many more people are just gonna die for January? Come January? Yeah, so and and and partly because of the season, right, We're gathering at Thanksgiving, We're gathering at Christmas, We're gonna gather New Years, and then you know we're both or all through on. I g our friends in Atlanta there, I don't think any I don't think a club is closed, so they're all partying like nothing hit. I remember seeing a video of

Compound because I used to live in Atlanta. My apartment was right there, and they put an indoor pool inside of the club during COVID. So there you go. Well, like you said, Nicholas, and like we always pushed, your decision is your decision. I'm not well. How I feel has no reflection for no one else. I'm only speaking for me and my family. I'm not allowing my children to take My children have never had a flu shot their entire lives. I had a flu shot in ninety

two put me in hospital for ten days. I also regret getting my children the HPV shot. I did it all that much because I researched it, I spoke with people. But now when I think about all the conspiracy theories and what it was and black and I'm telling you how I feel is that because we live in Long Beach, even though we went to Long Beach Memorial Hospital, which

is very reputable hospital. I believe that the communities that you live in, when they see a bunch of people that don't look like them, is how I'm going to say it, politically correct, they might get a different dose of medication than you give to the ones that look like there. You know, and I know that sounds. Let me say what I'm saying. Let me I'm a parent, and I'm telling you I regret getting my children an

HPV shot. I do. I've said this publicly on Love Lounge or either on coffee time on my on my personal channel, because I don't know what they injected into my children. I know that they say it could stop the cancer when my children were sexually active, because I do have one kid that's sexually active at seventeen. But I was doing this because I thought and I researched that I did. I talked to people, I talked to you, I talked to my to the guard of college, and

I talked to the doctor. I wanted to be sure. But now when I see what's happening with this whole vaccine and how the government just does not has this guard and this miss black and brown people. I regret it, and if I could do it over again, I would. I think, you know one of the things that continues to play back in my mind flame Lauren. We all have friends small business owners, and I'm I'm just watching them, um struggle, and it seems like they have been particularly

friends of mine who owned restaurants. There has been little to no support on them trying to pay rent on a property that they have keep employees working or shut down. They clean, they put up plastic glass. They've jumped through so many hoops without again leadership that if enough people like me do the right thing by taking the vaccine, then the few who do not the idea that if of us do it, we should be good to go. Right. So I'm hoping that all of those here we go.

I'm hoping that all of those who are there in DC rioting last week, who are so passionate about this commander in chief, I'm hoping they will be among the first lining up to get this shot. Since the idea is to make America great again, right, Um, then then maybe that's that's not that's over. That's over. We're build back better now, build back better, build back better. That is Joe Biden, build back better, Nick. I do agree

to you to that point. All those folks that were outside protesting, wearing a mask and everything, y'all should be the ones first in line to COVID vaccine. Absolutely agree with you. Absolutely so, Flame. What are your final thoughts? My final thoughts is this, I ain't taking ship, give me a check, give me liberty, or give me death. Isn't that one of the lines. Isn't that something is

I'm not? Your decision is your decision. I never want anyone to say with Flames saying, and because everyone has to have their own mind, which is why we are here now. Because I have my own mind, I know what I want, what works for me. The unsurety of what is going on in the world right now because we don't know. I saw one of the side effects with somebody's tongues were up in their mouth and they couldn't talk or anything. My money makes, my mouth makes

my money. If my tongue is swollen. I know somebod y'all would like me to shut the hell up. It's not gonna ever happened ever until I'm dead. You want me to shut up for the days on my head, some dirt on my face, and put a bit in the box. Because outside of that, I'm not I'm not taking it because I'm unsure of what the aftermath will be.

And with all the conspiracy movies with I Am Legend, and the zombies and all the conspiracy theories, all this stuff, So you you should have never clouded us on Netflix and on all these different platforms to see all this ship because and then you show us this government or the lack of leadership, like you said, who has put me in a place. So I don't trust anyone. Barack Obama said he was gonna take it. I trust Obama, but they'gna take it because I ain't taking it with you.

I don't even want it from your needle. I don't want it unless I can get those anybody's that have saved Giuliani in three days, saved Chris Christie, saved Trump. If I can get those, saved all his family, if I can get that, ain't because here's the hypocrisy necklace. So if it's ten thousand dollars a dose, and I got twenty tho dollars, but I got three kids, I'm supposed to make a decision on which kid I'm going to sacrifice. I'm not going to do that. I'm not

going to sacrifice any of my children. You give it for everyone, the rich and the poor, the exact same thing, or you pull us out the equation. I understand about the seventy of people need to take it, but it's too many people and not just black people who don't trust it. Not just black people. That was my only disagreement with you. It's not just us. A lot of people I know just afraid to take me because it's been so many lives and so much great water, great mud.

We don't know what to believe. I believe what I know. I know that I've been spraying everybody with lights off for ten months. I've been praying, I wash my hands on our social distances and everybody and everybody in this office, from me to Kinder, the Reality for to Triple the producer. If you're around me, I spray your ask with lights off. I believe it works. Whatever you believe, Like you said, you're gonna take it to say, but I'm not gonna

to snap. You take it and you start acting crazy and weird and ship not the nick that I know I will shoot you. I'm just if you flame, you'll you'll know something is wrong. If I start to deny butter. No, if you stop eating chicken, I'm gonna know you can because Nikolas et chicken a salmon every day. If you stop eating chicken, I know you're sucked up. Nikolas. We missed you here. It was a great conversation. Thank you, my buddy. I will see you next week. You Nick say,

say your final that. Where can we follow you at? You can follow me on all social media platforms under Nick Smith News. And remember, I want everybody to like, click and subscribe to the show because if you listen to us here on I Heart, you can also listen to us on the Apple podcast platform wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you, my partner. I missed you this week. I'll see you soon. You will indeed, by say by the Lauren by Lauren, you look like ladies and gentlemen.

Thank you guys so much for joining us here a laugh and learn. Thank you my wonderful manager, Lauren Hogan. This is my baby right here. Yeah. She takes great care of me, especially the uh. Secondly, I just want you with you guys to think for yourselves. I know I talked plenty of smack, and you know I'm here to make you laugh, but we're also here to make

you think. Our decisions are not your decisions. The only person who can think for you and you be comfortable with the decision that you make is you don't let nobody else speak for you or think for you, because if it goes left, then you want to blame somebody else. Always looking at me. Here and see who's looking back at you. Look into the eyes that are looking at you. And final score, Biden has won the electoral college. See Donald Trump, nigga, you lost, Nigga, Go sit down somewhere

every language. Every time you when we put in math, how much what was that? Two two three or two to three to two? You lost? Trump? Baby? He said he was going tomorrow logo, and he was never returning to the White House. You spend more time goinging than you be in the president you got damn Wait. So they're like, and it costs us money. It costs us tons of money. So while he paid how much for taxes?

Uh seven hundred and fifty dollars. But y'all want to take something from him if you don't if you trust the vaccine, go back and look at when when Dr Fauci was standing behind the Trump and Dr Birch when he was making one of his press conferences and he said something ridiculous and he put his head down. The Dr Foucci smiling and laughing because he was so mortified, but he smiled and smirked. I felt like he was smirking at us, the American people, because that was the

perfect time for you to something said. Now, that's not what it is. This is exactly what it is. But then as soon as he went left on Trump, he said he was getting death threats and woo woo woo. What's more important your check or the American people. The American people we're losing. We're losing because we at three hundred thousand plus and county. Decision you make for your

life is your life. You can follow me at Flame Underscore my Row on Twitter, at Monroe Flame on Instagram, Marcus Flame, mon Role on Facebook, and please subscribe to my YouTube channel to get this and it's watched last week's episode with Ta Kamba Martin. I want to thank my videographer Kendo, my producer Trible, and of course my Familits goes and when will we follow you? At this Lauren on Instagram at Lauren ARMANI h Lauren our money and you said professionally is how she speaks away. I'm

nothing like that. I ain't knowing. Yeah, don't get any but I love we do and we will be back next week. Ladies, jump for Laugh and Learn. You guys have a great week. It's almost holiday season. Please extend yourself. This is a Christmas like we have never seen before. This Christmas should not be about gifts. This Christmas should be about the gift, the safety you do, what works for you, protect you and your loved ones. This is Flaming Road. This is Lauren Hogan. That was my part

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