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We're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the end we leave it, which is a lift dis favorite if you want to revisit, so your first like a listen, young folks like it's lip all folks that we dig it. No do what you do? Nokis do what you do? No kids do what I do? No kid. Hey, welcome to laugh and learn. I am your host, a beautiful co host, the one and only. Who is this Lauren Hogan looking lovely today? Hello, every Indian Ish? Are you

celebrating Halloween as an indigenous woman? I'm actually indigenous? Like that's like that's part of my so that that coming out y'all can't see. Got the center part in her head to the side. She looks very Poka hunt is Keisha? So polka Keisha. Yes, that's my other traits coming out. That's my background. So that's what you're getting today. So there's no makeup. What's today, Wednesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, whatever it is. Yeah, the day is Tuesday. It's the week of Thanksgiving. Loranjgan.

Are you ready for the holiday? You got your turkey stuff? You know, I don't eat turkey. Look, you don't eat I do not eat turkey. I had a bad experience as a child, and I do not eat turkey. Turkey Turkey is really good. I don't like the texture. I can't get with it. And I think I had turkey one year at Marie Calendars because like my dad was always in the fire station, so we would always go to the fire station to celebrate Thanksgiving. I had some

Marie Calendars turkey. I think he was a fried turkey and I was so sick. So it ain't for me. You didn't have you didn't experience the real turkey with the black people with dressing, because you have to be right if because you know, I left to go on vacation and left my kids, but I ordered them dinner from Vaughns and my son is a huge dressing fanatic. But the dinner from Barns come with a turkey, mastrotatus, corn and stuffing. He said, it's this dressing. I said,

absolutely not, it is white folks, because black folks make dressing. Now, that's what I'm saying. I just had a bad experience and I haven't been able to come back. I get PTSD every time I see a turkey. So you know, we'll be frying chicken in my house for Thanksgiving. That's what we do. Yes, well, Happy Thanksgiving to all the flame man's and everyone out there in my heart Black Effect network land because this is Thanksgiving week. Save travels

wherever you're going. But let's get it cracking back and attacking on where we're going because you're taking the lead. You you the top today I'm the bottom. I didn't know that with the day that I had, I don't know have the energy to do that. Wait a minute, I'm just kidding. Get your straps to you the top. Now, where we're going on? I think we should start off with, um, kind of the unfortunate events that have happened in the news, and then we can kind of shift to some of

the funny and then get into politics. UM. But first and foremost, UM, we wanted to talk about Colorado Springs and send all of our prayers and condolences out to those that lost their lives. Um, those family members, those that are injured and are currently still in the hospital. Um, it's just another act of senseless violence and proof that we need more restrictive gun laws in this country and that um, you know, level of violence and the hatred

that has just kind of erupted. I think over these past what six years now, it's just it's continuing to be at all time high and it's just unnecessary. So, UM, yeah, I agree with you. Going to pray us to all involved in prayers to not only the victims and the people of the family, but to the heroes that the stands to stand up and take the time to fight back.

Sometimes that's what we have to do. And when I talked about this on my coffee time the other morning, I said, I bet you the person that fallback was either a drag queen or a trans woman, because baby, we do not man using the aggression and fighting back. They said. The queen stumped at y'all all, in his face, in his head. He couldn't even go to court the next day. He was so damaged and I love that the man who was an ex military said he went into ex combat mode. I'm not agreeing with that. He

went into daddy mode. His daughter had gotten shot. That was me. If your your dad, Lauren, he may have been an ex military, but when you see your child, you go into daddy mode. I hate that that happened, and I believe that when all of dust clears and the smoke settles, the killer is probably something self loathing homosexual who couldn't deal with how he felt. He was very he was not. I'm not gonna say he was unattractive in the face, but his body was unattractive as

far as what beauty morphea goes. He wasn't the prettiest to look at, and he probably just hated who he was and couldn't deal with it. But I fought law enforcement, Lauren, because a year ago this fool said he was gonna blow up his own mama. They got it all on tape and everything, and then y'all allow him to get a weapon talking about it wasn't on paper, but Loring, that's a black person in this country. If I went to go get an a R fifteen and I had

a clean wrecking me. Aaron Do producer who's on here, was just talking about that girl. They would give me every hiccup and and railroad and go through the back door and count the marbles in the job they could. That's why you know things ain't change. They need to charge all the people in lawenforce because there there's no way this could have been avoided. And I think it's also interesting too. I'm gonna just draw comparison. So this happened now almost two days ago. We still have yet

to see a photo of this gunman. We haven't somebody if it was somebody black and brown, splatted all over the news. Well that's what I'm saying, because just the previous week, you know, there was a young black man that did you know, kill three young students at the University of Virginia, I believe um, and his face was plastered all over the news as soon as soon as the rest was made, it was plastered all over the news. And we still have vant to see what this individual

looks like. And it's been forty eight hours. So it's just always interesting, you know what the narrative is, how you know, how things come out when it's one of us versus um and the killer is he's the nephew of a California is it a congressman or a statesman and something. He's a nephew of somebody. Yeah, oh my god, I can't think of the name. But he's a nephew

of one of the of sitting congressman too. Well, that might really be why we haven't seen his face yet because apparent apparently he changed his name and then they're trying to say that that's part of the reason why they couldn't figure out who he really was and the previous threat because he changed his name. It's just the I don't understand all of the we have to tell you the story and give you this background. Bottom line is he shot and he killed five people and he

injured almost thirty. So I don't understand what we need all this narrative for the facts, for the facts. So I hope they definitely taught him with a hey, cra But I'm telling you long we've been talking. We did a whole episode on this. Y'all. Keep giving cowards guns. Guns don't mix. The corilege is not to pull the trigger, and the courage is to not pull the trigger because you're not getting the gun to kill people. You're getting the gun to make sure nobody hurts you. But people

keep getting guns for the wrong reasons. Yeah, you're absolutely right. So and I also saw the interview that um, this young black gentleman did and was talking about just how what the atmosphere was and what Club Q represented to the community. It was really a safe space for the l g bt Q community in Colorado Springs. And he was just heartbroken and just was saying that we don't have a space like this was our space and it's

just been you know, ruined. So and it was so tragic, Lauren, because it was the night before the Transgender Day of Remembrance. And but I love that the trans started with Marsha and Marsha P. Johnson was the blueprint for being the queen that's gonna take it down. Amen to Marsha P. Johnson. Makes you rest in peace because this is the only thing that they're going to understand that we don't stand up and fight back, they're gonna continue to bulldose us.

I will not be bulldozed. I'm glad that I don't have to work in the space of working in clubs like that. But you never not where it's going to happen. I did dragon shows for a living. I never thought about nobody coming in shooting out the place. And I'm too busy trying to entertain and make money. It is, it is, But it's hate and rage from social media platforms Twitter and and stuff like that, and people pushing

crazy narratives. But I'm dying to know the if we ever know, because like you said, we ain't even see his face, if we ever know the reason of why and and and how and what? What? What was your reasoning? Because nothing that has ever come out ridiculous. And then another another it's exhausting. Oh yeah, and another um situation that we wanted to extend our condolences to is Um

Sinquala Robinson. I'm happy to see that more details are starting to come out about her case, because you know, initially they just tried to say that she died from alcohol poisoning. There's a video of her being beaten up by two of her so called friends. That's another reason why you gotta be careful with that video setting set on my spirit. Louren and just I wanted to go through the damn phone, like I was so angry I don't know none of these people, but I want everybody charged.

And like they did was with McBee, with the mcbabe, the guy who videotape, they charged his ass to whoever. The guy who was videotaping, that should be charged, the girls that was involved, and they should all be charged it is. And then they made the whole clickbait like it was a trans woman. It was a whole man.

They are distracting from what really happened. But when I saw the father's video, the breakdown of him his daughter, as a dad who has daughters, I went right there to the pain where he was at, like, oh my god, I can only imagine and I don't want to imagine that it was. It was disheartening. Lord. And and these people here, so called friends, and supposedly from what I ran somewhere, she paid for all of them to come. What kind of rage and jealousy and hate and bitterness

is that? I couldn't even tell you. But that's why you gotta be careful about who you call your friends. You gotta be more careful about who you travel internationally with. Mm hmmm. You can't trust everybody, And honestly, I just can't imagine the fact of going on a trip feeling like you're comfortable to have a good time and you get jumped while intoxicated and ultimately beaten to death. I I can't imagine. I can't imagine that at all. I think Tims reported that when the doctor showed up, she

wasn't deed. When the doctor three hours and she did, that is just suffrage and pain. And I learned. I'm telling I'm every time you think you can't hear anything that would shock you more, you always shoot something that shocks you more. You just out to be careful who you hang around and who you keep in your space. Everybody ain't your friend, and more people are jealous of

you than you realize. I will definitely say that. So I really hope that everybody involved is charged and put behind bars, and I hope that they continue to investigate the situation and actually, um the truth prevails and those that harm to this girl are just locked up. And I hope they put it in a foreign prieston because foreign prisons ain't like American priestons. I hope they don't

want them. Dirty, dark dungeon, deep doge written rent roading and look at me I'm just oh, just grammy, Yes, the worst of the worst, because it was it was just it's hardening to think that y'all went all the way over there to do something like this to somebody who y'all considered a friend. And y'all, what kind of drugs was y'all know, I'm starting to think that everybody that was involved was on something comes kind of drug or something. I don't even know if it's drugs. I'm

hout to Jealousy is a hell of a drug. Let me just say that. So I don't know what the circumstances were, but that's just a lot of rage and hate and jealousy to be in your spirit to do that to somebody. That's all I'm saying. It is it is who that hurt, and that hurt and then and then it's us. It was it was us. And when I say that's something about black folks, it was us. Yeah, yeah, doing it to us. And I do want to say

a big shout out to Kyrie Irving. He donated sixty dollars to her go fund me to make so he really he helped her family like significantly. You know, despite all of the craziness, you know and ridiculousness. I will say that he has going on unnecessarily. Once again, he's showing the fact that he's a humanitarian at the end of the day, so special shout out to him for helping out that family and donated so much money. I love.

I love that about Carrie Irving. I hate to wrap that he got and I love that he had stood in his conviction and cut the cords because cutting them cords will set you free anybody, also for you from some jobs, and don't I know that firsthand, But cutting

the chords will make you feel good about you. And I mean, and if we're gonna talk about him a little bit more, UM, I was so happy to see all of his Black Hebrew brethren outside of Our Place Center supporting him in the ice cold weather of New York City on his return to UM his first Nets game since his suspension. So I love to see that he's getting support too, because he deserves it. So anyway, if we could just get rid of this great divad and be together as one, we could be such a

strong group of people. But good God, they bank on us being separate away from each other, and and what is it thiscombobulated with this the color black and that color black and this kind of black and that kind of black, and oh my god, Jesus, I'm a black Berrick And I was telling Aaron that I am. And

and you know, Aaron sent me a video. Aaron is that producing who We're gonna make a part of the show because he's exceptionally intelligent, But he sent me a video about how we should cancel Thanksgiving and I just was explained to him, as a black American that was born in the United States, culturally, that's what we would talking to the stuff that we know. We were raised

up on that, so that is what we know. Traditionally, there's nobody around from the sixteen seventeen hundreds to tell us what we were before they brought us over here in chains or how we you know, what we would do. And I know there are some authorities on it, but they not They weren't around me, and hopefully they got it right. But that's what we know. And I'm not going to discredit that it might be right or wrong.

But as born in America, raised in America, and raised with those Fourth of July and Thanksgiving and create that's what we know, because that's the Americans that we are.

If that makes well well for um. For me, I'm gonna just say I ain't celebrated Fourth July, like maybe when I was younger, Like I think your parents want you to get into like the festive things around it, but I would say probably by the time I turned like thirteen, Like my mom was like, Okay, that was cute when you was like little, but we're not doing that no more. Same thing my mom told me Santa Claus wasn't real when I was five, you know what

I mean. So my mom was that ball buster for lack of a better word, like, and she gave us the truth, you know what I mean. And even with Thanksgiving, we never celebrated things giving. We just got a really good meal. But she always explained the fact of how what really happened, because you know, my ancestors are Native American,

you know what I mean. So she explained how the fact that this wasn't a feast, that it was you know, rape pillage, and that these white folks brought you know, disease and killed us, killed you know, your ancestors at the end of the day, but tried to act like it was a festive celebration, and that's not what it was. So I think that's when we kind of go back to, like when we talk about, you know, your riots and things like that, because you need people to kind of

tell you what your past and history is. So my mom was kind of that for me, and my dad always just kind of co signed it and kind of gave me more of the raw and cut version of what my mom was saying. Anyway, So they were very honest with me, I think at a young age, and that's part of the reason why, you know, my mouth is a little more kurt these days anyway. But she explained that to me, you know, so she always basically debunked what I might have learned in school or the

Western European version of Valerie. My mama didn't tell me that Sunding War real. But my stepdaddy dressed up at Santa when I was seven years old, and I caught him and my mom in the kitchen in the living room and they they wasn't wrapping pressures. Santa was still they hit you get busy. I said, that's saying I ate the same Santa every bringing me gift. Listen, Dowery was trying to make sure you got some good gifts. You better go back and thank her. She's trying to

make sure you had good gift. She went the extra mile. Is doing it to my mama. This is laughing. They laugh with us. So in the in the Current News, Lauren Hogan yesterday, apparently allegedly Mr August Elsina said he found love that he wasn't even expecting or looking for, and he invited his new love to come and sit with him on the on the on the stage, and his new love was the guy. Oh okay, that's what

I said, lawing everybody up. And I was like, I'm like, okay, you know, I'm like, I'm like, maybe he trying something else. Love is love and if you know, that's where you found love, because I think he's been through a lot of trauma in his life. So wherever he finds love, piece of blessings to him. For sure, he's been through a lot in his life. So if you found loving

a man, we are happy for you. August. Be happy to be married, Be joyful, be fruitful, and multiplayer damn might not be in the multiplayer, um, But I want to switch back to the topic of injustice. A little bit. So yesterday Um Todd and his wife Julie Cristle were sentenced. Well, tyd was sentenced to twelve years in prison. Julia was sentenced to seven for whatever part they played in their bank and wired fraud scheme. Um, I think that the sentence is a bit excessant, and I find it interesting

that that's what they got. But um, what do you think? Well? I think that well, so allegedly the story is the reason they got caught was because Ty Christy supposed his business partner and him and him had some kind of gay love affair on the load, that is what the tabloids are reporting, and something went south and the boyfriend was a scorn partner and told the dirt. Now I hope the wife was involved in and she was just part of it. But she's doing seven years and the

women's penitentiary. But she damned she pretty straight. Ty Chrisley is suspect always. He might Christly know it has been, but Christie about to know penis because baby, they sent him to a man spen intentiary twelve years. It might not be twelve years of slave, but he might be twelve years of made good. God, they're gonna have their wait with you tired, Christie. Well, I think he's going

to a federal prison, so I'm hoping, you know. And to me, I thought he was reckless with some of the things that they posted that he was supposedly doing, like flammed to l A every two weeks just to get a hair cut and something, you know, on on somebody else's money. Some things you almost look like you don't want to get caught, but you're asking to be

caught because you just do a ridiculous ship, right. But I mean, like, we don't know the real truth because I know that their defense was whoever this the person was, their ex business partner, had a lot of shady dealings and um, it wasn't their fault, That's what they were saying. So I don't know what the actual story is. I'm just more so sad for their kids one and also to for that beautiful grand baby that they haven't they've been raising, because what gonna happen to her now, you

know what I mean? So, and I just think it's interesting because he's I think between the two of them, they've been real advocates for the black community. Considering that they have a daughter because they were getting a lot of backlash and hate speech from other people for having it, you know, a black granddaughter, and he was supporting her.

I saw his interview that he did with tamer Hall what and was talking about how he doesn't allow that for for people to come for his you know, his granddaughter. So it's just interesting that, you know, despite their transgressions, you know, it's still it wasn't enough, all the good that they've done wasn't enough to either give them a little sentence or you know, keep them out of jail.

Of picks and chooses who they want to arrest for tax of asion, because sure, j for all those years for tax of asient, Donald Trump has been caught reinhanded without paying texts y'all A did nothing, but y'all he's still y'all. Stewart to jail, she came out, became more of a mobile. It is. It is who sketchy to say the least, because how long did Mark Stewart go to She was in there for like maybe three months,

four months like that. And I guess that's maybe what I was expecting for them to to get twelve years, like that's a lot. I wondered, does it depend on how they like you or not or how you you know, Well, that's what I'm saying, is like they're being outspoken, you know about you know, supporting the black community and all of that. Did that working against them? And I like that show. I really did. Like Christie knows best. I didn't know. I'm still watching shooting. Nanny Kaye was my

favorite character. She was either drunk, wanted to get drunk, or you know, she was talking about her little sexual inuit. Am I trying to get a free calm? She surely was. She was calling herself a prostitute, but couldn't say the words right. I love Nanny Fay. So I'm just sad that, you know, their family has been affected by this, because I hope it doesn't affect their other assets and then the kids can't support themselves. Like there's there's always a

ripple effect. Everybody gonna have to get a job. Everybody's gonna be working at chick They looked like Chick fil A workers all the period. They look like blond allbody who work at Chickfilate with blonde and white is so racy. I love Chick fil A for the record, I still they got the best prize and they have the best chicken sandwiches. So when people be times down, oh, they

don't mess with the gays. I've never been to not one Chick fil A and the person who comes to the register is as gay as Peter Pan and some Ice Gates and some Wayne's. Good God, listen, people said that all the time. You know that the sea doesn't support the gay people, the gay community, and I go, I go to the Chick fil A's that are standalones that certain people ownt so that that that's my excuse. I love Chick fil A. But um, saying all that to say prayers to their family, I hope that, um,

you know, they're able to rebuild after this. Like you said, it might be a market Stewart situation when they come out there even more famous than before. But I'm so sorry that their families are being torn apart right before the holidays. It's just so sad. They said they're gonna get their time, Lord, and you're gonna let them. Yes they did. They said they are going to get their time. Yeah, So it's just so unfortunate. But officially switched the politics.

Elon Musk, who has a quiet Twitter has allowed Marjorie Taylor Green, Donald Trump, and Kanye West all to be come back on Twitter. Now. Donald Trump said he wasn't coming back home unless he gets some kind of big players. Now you know that's the script anyway. But Marjorie Chayler Green is on and on the rampage and talking about what she is looking for freedom of speech and woo woo woo. It's just you know what. And Kanye West said he was running for president. Uh, don't rougher president

player rough an institution of the help. Yeah. Well, first and foremost, I think Twitter as a whole is interesting. Now I think Elon Musk has ruined it. Um. You know, they had a great resignation at the top of this week. A lot of people just resigned because they just didn't appreciate, you know, the new rules and regulations that he was putting in place. And his response to it is we're

still trending. His Twitter ended up being a trending topic of all these employees resigning, and he made it seem like it was this great thing because they were just a trending topic. So and in addition to that, the N word has been um. The usage of it on the platform was up. So everybody that wanted to say it before and couldn't because Jack Dorsey was CEO is now exercising their right to be racist on full display and in public. So yeah, fool voice. I don't know.

I was only on Twitter for one reason and one reason only, but for the point a lot now because of all the different rules. Right with the point, they're taking a point to some other site because the rules have changed. But I saw the elon must they said proposed he lost a hundred billion dollars this year because of his Tesla sales. His stock has went down or something because it's too many extra career. Yeah, he his UM former employees. UM basically developed a lawsuit against him.

He was in court last week about it too. I don't know what if there was any official ruling or movement on the case, but he's got quite a few lossuits against him from former employees. So yeah, Jesus, Loan Hogan, what we what else gonna do? Lord? What us gonna do? Lauren Hogan, I don't know. I'm at this point. I just feel like it's safe for me just to stay in my house. That's all I'm starting to feel with all of the hatred and the violence and just the

ankst and anxiety that's out in the world. I want to be in my own space, with my own energy. You worked for that pretty big organization that's involved with a lot of LGBT issues. Have you noticed anything anything different in the office workplace when you go into the office, because I know you work from home a lot, but when you go into the office, have you is the temperament different? Have you have you noticed anything different? I

think everybody's anxiety is a little heightened. Um. I personally don't like going into the office because it brings my anxiety up. It feels like, um, a lot of people are just kind of at me. But that's kind of like my own thing. But at times like this, especially like it's always just somber, like people are just sad, you know, on the brink of another shooting happening, you know, against LGBTQ community, because a lot of people in my office are from that community, you know, So it's sadness.

You know, it's very melancholy, like you can feel the mood shift and change. Um, So it's just hard like that. I was in office today and the mood was just it was you know what I mean, My fear of what happened in Colorado Springs, that club q UM Colorado, Claro Springs, Colorado, is that the domino effect, the copy kept back. So once person saw there, I was like, oh, now I'm going to do it. I have so many sisters, gay, trans men and trans women, sisters that work in gay clubs,

doing drag shows or bartenders or have you. They don't go into work on high alert thinking that's gonna happen. But now the fear might be that this is what's going to happen, so they might lose that job because they're afraid to go to work. That is how Nancy Pelosi. I believe they scared Nancy Pelosi because they tried to kill this woman, which is why she stepped down and speak early house. I think the fear that they and still fear in you by doing something crazy and then

it works. Well, not just that, you know, they're also being attacked from a political standpoint, because you know, some congressmen were trying to get drag shows banned, you know what I mean. I know we talked about that, I think early or in the season, but the topic has like come back around, especially since the Republicans have officially

taken over the House again. So it's too basically to have a certain you know community, like, you know, black folks, we've been under attack since the the founding of America, but you know, to be continually targeted, not only by the crazy people, but then incited said hate that you have in your heart is incited on a political scale too. It's almost like what do you expect to happen? You

know what I mean? It's like you've got politicians giving these crazy people carte blanche to go in, you know, mess with these people in these you know communities. It's not just black folks. It's not just you know LGBC H community. We saw what happened with Donald Trump and blomen Asians for the UM for COVID and the coronavirus. Now, mind you, all of these other communities you know, get reparations a lot faster than Black people do. But it's

just like, what do you expect to happen? And then when we ask you guys to create gun laws and gun reform, y'all don't want to do it. So it's almost so what other message are you sending to these crazy people other than go do that, you know what I mean? Like, it's not rocket science, you know, but common sense and common I guess to some people. But what do you what else do y'all expect? But back to and and and still on that topic going. I just love the fact that sometimes people don't know what

they wanted until you show it to him. I love that the the gates, the gay kids in the club directly, they stood up, they fell back. It shows courage, It shows we're tired of your of your bs. We're exhausted with the foodishness that you're doing, and more of us as a people, not just gay people, with black people, brown people. We're gonna have to stand up and fight back.

That is the only thing that's gonna And when they when the guy who the father who talked about that he took the gun from and he just started willing them. These are his word. He's actually started willing on And I told the queen to come and stump him in the head. Yes he's ex military, so I'm good. I'm sure that training help. But that he went into dandy mode. I would have went into dandy mode. I met your father, he would have went in to Daddy mos, somebody is

hurting my door. And I love that that overprotective spirit we should take over and everybody, but everybody doesn't possess that to uh what's his name, Ted Cruz? Oh well. I think the other thing too, is when you're in those situations and I don't begrudge anybody you know that maybe didn't act, but you automatically have that fight or flight response, and until you're in that situation, you don't

know how your body's gonna react. But it's just unfortunate that so much trauma is being endured and experienced and so many people. It's it's just it's so unfortunate, you know, And that's why we continue to see actual, you know, cases of mental health. I'm not talking about the people that are shooting up places. That's not mental health disorder. That's hatred, that's racism. But all of this trauma that we're experiencing in this country, especially because most people, most

kids these days, are dying by gun violence. That's a number way that kids in this country are dying. That type of trauma to be experiencing, no wonder we have mental health issues. You know what I mean, so I think we all need couches. They just need to put couches out every way and anybody there on the couch and let somebody talk on the loud speaking and get us awesome therapy. Yeah, seriously, I encourage everybody to go to therapy. It's nice to talk to somebody who's unbiased

about your situation. But then again, everybody can't afford to go therapy. So what do you do? You borrow money from Donald Trump and Todd Christy and the white because they ain't paying taxes. They got some money. Long that was a joke. It is laughing learned. So, I mean, we're about to enter um. It kind of feels like these last two years have been a blur for me. Um. But you know, we can only be optimistic, I guess,

and try to be, you know, optimistic. I'm moving forward because the way that every day is turning out, Yeah, it's not starting to become a little impalatable, I would say. So before we go on, I have to tell you that I'm under the I'm on I'm on the slab again on YouTube because earlier today T S. Madison my girl was on with a panel and they were supposed to be talking about the Shankquella Robinson story. So I'm just sitting on and listening. I didn't make no comment.

I'm just listening, and man, he invited me on. So I went on, and the conversation when left immediately it was her hope to sell some other people, and there was a transman, but I wasn't aware that it was a trans man because when I came into I was just listening. I didn't he hadn't spoken. So I said hello, ladies. I didn't say general, and I wasn't being disrespectful because

I didn't realize that. And so he made a statement saying that he thought that all black sis gender people were against LGBT community, and I was like, no, I said, that's not true. And so it was so far fench that I just removed myself from the conversation because how are you, he said, I'm thirty six. I said, well, in the words of my grandmother, keep living because you have an experience enough. And so I just removed myself out the conversation because I don't I don't do ridiculousness.

I'm not for the bullshit. So they mad at me. They said I was rude, and I didn't give him a chance to explain, but he did explain. He said what he said, and I said, well, I don't I don't agree with that. And and from my perspective, I kept saying, from my perspective and from my experience, had it not been for the hetero sexual community, me and my children could have changed that name to Oscar and lived in the garbage canids like they did on Sesame

Street because y'all didn't work. Y'all don't work me, y'all don't work with me, or nothing like that. And it just went after I got off. So they were saying I was being rude because I got I just know my mouth, and I knew where I was going to go, and I'm on vacation. I had had me lovely and I already knew I was ready to slice and cut and doctor up and put in a box. So I removed myself. So they thought it was rue. So they tamed me up on you on YouTube. But I'm gonna

go back to the comment that was made. See, because if let's do this in the reverse. So let's say that you came on and there, let's say they were all you know, Federal sexual since gender in this space, And if you came on and somebody said, I felt like all black people from the LGBTQ community have an issue with you know, since gender people or basically said that comment. In the reverse, the lgbc Q community would

be in an uproar. So I just feel like some there there has to be accountability here, Like to make a statement like that is offensive to us. It is because that's not factual. That's not true. Now maybe that's your been your experience, that's fine, but you should say, in my experience, whenever I interact with X, Y and Z, this is what I've gotten. That's one thing. But to make a blatant, offensive statement like that, that's not cool.

And you have a lot of friends that are a part of that demographic that he's talking about, so you took offense to it and acted accordingly. There can't be a double standard. It has to they can, and and I say it, and I say it on the line that when at most young gay boys before they found before they became trains or whatever they decided to become, even before they found their gay ism, their their best friend was a biological girl. That was the person they

felt the safest with. That is the person they hung out with. That's the person they first told their entire truths. Like me and you were young kids together, and you said flame, I like David or Marcus. I like David. I said, Oh, Lauren, guess what kind of secret? I like David too. I was that was enough. You were enough for me. I shared me with you. But then I got comfortable with who I was and discovered my transism or my gayism or whatever I become. Then I

became better than you. That was my issue. No, I'm not better than you. We are still friends and well hopefully we can be on the same level playing field. But that is the problem because it was mad that I said that. Y'all know, I don't give a funk. Let me just say this publicly, y'all get my diakon. That's my opinion, and that's what I see it. I'm a woman is the blueprint. And I'm gonna say this again like I said it on my post the other day.

Please make this make sense to me. How can you be proud to scream that you're a woman, but shame to say you trains but keep fighting for trans rights That don't make sense to me. That just don't make sense to me. If I'm gonna be fighting as a trans woman, then this it's enough for me to say that I am a trans woman, not that I'm a woman. But I don't want to be referred to as trains. But I'm fighting for trans rights. Somebody funked up and it ain't me. I'm had, but I ain't suked up.

I need right now, and I get it. I wish my wish would be in situations where we have more similarities and differences. We would approach each other from different communities with an open mind rather than being so defensive. I get, like, we want to be defensive as black

folks around white people, whether regardless of gender sexuality. I get automatically being on defense cool, But like, if I'm a black female, heterosexual, biological black female and I'm coming to the table talking to a black trans woman, I would expect you to see the similarities in our situation rather than you automatically be on defense with me, because that's not the energy that I want. We both have trauma, we both have vast experiences that have affected who we

are today. So rather let's connect on our possible shared lived experiences rather than seeing as we're from different communities, if that makes sense from a gender perspective, I have to level. They want to make a level of competition. I hate that that there's always how we in competition. Here is my perspective on the situation, and this is just me. If I am a female impersonator or a trans woman, I'm learning and I'm experienced being feminine and

being a woman from a watching a woman. She may not be black, she may be white or another color, but it's still a damn woman girl. They don't want to give no, they don't want to give that. So that's why we always have issues. And again, like you say, it's not the message just me. They damn So you don't like me, Yeah, But like I said, you're the anomaly.

And what I don't appreciate. I know we talked about this last week with Teslain, is the fact that you're from a different era than from the Hope Gisels and others. I think you and Maddie probably agree on more things than not, but you're from a different era and I think the you know, the trans community from this era sometimes discredit your lived experience to validate what's going on currently, and I don't agree with that. You know what I mean.

You can't say like, oh, this terminology is is wrong, or you can't say that you can't say that that's what you said during your time period whether you know, I'm not gonna say those words because I know it can be deemed defensive. But some of the things that you do say those were terms of endearment for you amongst your transistors of that time. Some of the things that you did that was what you guys did in

your time. It's different now, Yes, to be evolved in change, but don't just credit people's live past experiences to validate whatever agenda you have. Now, that's not cool if we don't come together. We need to come together and respect everybody's past. So I'm moving to New Zealand. I'm tired, Loring. Thank you so much for this episode. This week, Lady them,

it is it is Thanksgiving week. I say, Halloween. I hope you're wherever you're traveling to that you're safe or your man, give it, your family, your love, what's your friends, enjoy yourself. We don't know what's gonna happen next Thanksgiving, so let's enjoyed this one. If you celebrate it or not. If you do whatever you do, just be safe, keep your head on swiping the words of t J. And what's that model here? Lauren Hogan here laugh and learned. We do have a saying that we're never trying to

get anybody to change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind. Mind is a terrible thing to waste. And Sam, y'all was wasting my damn time. Hey, we love you guys. Here laught for learned. Thank you guys for supporting us and being here with us. And you can follow my pardner Lauren Hogan at Lawing that money h on Instagram and Lawn Hogan on YouTube, um

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