What Is The Black Agenda?

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as Nick Smith on Nick Smith News. We're gonna bring him in a second, come on the inflame its lounge ESTs and firecrackers and bow chests and whatever you call yourself today, because you know, we all identify something different today. Right this moment, I'm feeling like a girl. I put some makeup on in five minutes. Did I shower? I did not? I showered this morning. I'm sorry. I'm just

messing with you. Thank you for joining us. The conversation today is going to get a little heavy, and we're gonna bring you guys in because next Monday are very special in studio guests right here at the Laugh and Learn the studio along with our wonderful cameraman Trip Kendo and our beautiful camera lady Trip but we will have the one and only Tasha k will be here and the following Monday, the twenty one, uh the executive producer of this show, my friend and our boss, the wonderful

Tiffany Hattish, to discuss her new projects, her old projects, and some things that are near and dear to her heart. If you think you know Tiffany Hattish, and if you think we're about to talk about her career in the movies, you are in for a rude awakening, because that's is woke and knowledgeable and she's gonna hit you' all with the thing about women's rights and women's issues that I was very unaware of, but that she's very passionate about. So or to be a part of the conversation, you

have to join us. Hi, Lauren, Hi, how are you? Oh no, you're looking at your phone. You ain't talking to listen. I'm multitasking going on today. So we got a little bit of multitask and just give me one second. But I'm here. Well, we got to play barbecue yesterday. Lauren did come to the barbecue, I surely did, and I ate it was catered. No, it wasn't you cooked, y'all flame cooked. It was very good. I had some chicken and in the corner of the cop is really good.

It was really really good. Hats off to you. Cooking is the third good thing I do? Yes, what's the first? In the second? On another note, though, I would like to say, guess whose birthday it is today? Prince? It would have been sixty three today, so we have to give a special birthday shout out to Prince. He's one of my favorite artists. There you are high Nicky, Rest in peace, Prince. So I guess love lounge tonight will be dedicated to the Prince said the print stuff. I'm

wearing purple tonight and I got some purple hair. We're gonna wear purple hair to a print. Nicholas, you look very handsome today. What you do you can? I just Lauren, are glowing. There's a light right here because it look like good. Candle said, okay, and I'm not moving. It gave us to look. I apologize Lauren for not being in a shirt and tie today, but a heat wave, so we think. I like this. I prefer you like this.

I do. I like you more comfortable and lax. I feel like, yes, I well, I'm not in agreement with that. You wouldn't you know what you look like? You know the commercial where the lady went on a date with the guy here washing the T shirt and a T shirt was all stressed up. That's exactly what you know. You look very handsome today, so shy? Yeah, I like this. Look are you in a different spot? Well? If if no, just in the living room this time around? So turned around,

that's all. If I'm looking that good, then why my bayliss? What's up with that? Now? Don't put your relationship business on the streets. Nightmare. They're gonna be all up my baby. You know they do. Man, they don't stop. That's me putting my opening bid in for love lounge later. That's all. So maybe on that, yeah you might. How was your week? Nick? How was your week? You know you opened the show with one of three things you do? Well, I'm going to start with you know what my favorite is? Think

about you flame that you never talked about. Tell me seriously, it is your dedication to your friends. I know four facts, three people your friends don't shut up? Shut up? Move on, lord, never mind, go right ahead, because you know but I'm not doing that. Look, let me adjust myself. Ridiculous also too, I want to give a shout out for some black girl matter to Simone Biles. She wanted her seven US all around title um in the Olympics today on the

uneven parallels. Oh my, if that wasn't the reenaction of the of the Natia comedy she put baby that took Natas flame. You remember Domini Na Nadia coma ni. Yeah, that's very seventies. If you a'll know nothing about that, watch the old commercial and say sports the Love and Pain and the man flew out when he was skiing and he flew off and died about twenty five flips and crash and broke arms, legs and all that. Oh yeah,

I used to love to see that. Oh my god, you yeah, so shout out to Simone Biles because she's making history. She's doing it despite you know, some of the critics trying to move the goal line for us and for her, I should say, and you know, kind of just making it seem like they have to doll down what she's doing. But she's phenomenal and black girl magic all the way around. So for sure, that was I shared that this morning on social media. It was amazing. I saw she was saying that. Shout out to her,

Shout out to another athlete, another female athlete. What's her name was soccer? Naomi o Soccer. Yes, and she's we're jumping into our first topic. Can I just say that I really like this dress. I didn't see it until I'm looking at it. No flame got dressed today, Oh my goodness. This is the first so I got dressed because last week, y'all know what, y'all got him here today and Lauren Lauren's lacks today to somebody had to show up to work. I show up, as you know,

the millennial of the group. So I stay on brand with who I am for this show. You know, I love that Lauren, when you sent the topics this week, talked mentioned Naomio soccer at the top um. It was just I felt like the time you couldn't been better. I'm not sure if life imitates art or art imitates life, but you know, this past week I took a break from social media because I just got inundated with a

lot of things I thought were just ridiculously negative. And I remember flame stand early on Flames, like why do you let this stuff bother you? You You don't know all these people who follow you, But I think that what bothers me about it. Just to be clear to those who watched the show is I do feel an obligation to those with whom we engage regularly. We asked him to join, to watch the show, be part of the conversation.

So then when I get comments that I felt like we're completely off brand about what it is we do or why aren't you elevating, why don't you doing this any other it bothered me because I feel like it's

not only about me. I think we really do try our best to put together a product that we can one be proud of, and to the way we try to engage with people, so when it hit me that way, I said, you know what, flame, I'm really struggling here in flames, like Nick, take a break from that, and and and and that's exactly what I did, said, you know, I'm just gonna put this down for a while, and

it just felt so much better. So then on the heels of that, Lauren, for you to send uh Naomi Osaka and for the round of criticism Naomi Osaka got in the beginning for just simply saying, you know what, this doesn't feel good to me. I'm not a professional speaker. I just want to come in and I want to play, want to do my job job, but the questions that come at me get in my head and they I

don't handle it like everyone else does. And then for her to be roundly criticized for that, I just thought it was another example of once again, in my opinion, of a bias that still extends one of oun mental health. And then two people of color saying that, hey, I need a little help here. Thank you Venus Williams for your clap back. Thank you, thank you Venus Williams for your clap back. Because while y'all judging me more than half of y'all can't do what I do on the court.

So I didn't say that exactly where she said it, but she shaded the ship out of the media, and I appreciate Venus Williams just for that. Thank you. I did too, And I think that, you know, Nick, in terms of the comments that we get on the show, um, I've learned to take them with a grain of salt to like, somebody called me Megan McCain last week and I cracked the hell up. That's yeah, somebody called me Megan McCain in the comments. So I think it's like,

take it with a grain of salt. And I've honestly learned a lot of this too from Flame is that you know, people have lots of things to say, but at the end of the day, you're still watching the show.

So it is what it is, you know what I mean. Um, But on the Naomi Osaka front, I also think that I want to applaud her for understanding that she needed to keep saying in order to do her job, because I think in a lot of ways, you know, black women specifically, we get criticized in these you know, large arenas for how we act or you know, for our attitude and these different things. You know, we've seen it time and time again with Serena when she's you know,

at the French of the US French Open. You know, she's gotten criticized for yelling at the umpire because she has to defend and saying, you know that she's not being coached in the middle of her match, or when she has an outpert at a press conference, it's, oh, she's unprofessional, she's uncouth, you know, all of these negative,

derogatory terms that the media puts out towards her. So I want to applaud Naomi Osaka for saying that, you know, I can't do this and taking the fine and then ultimately saying, fine, I'm just gonna withdraw from even participating. You know. So she's a fabulous talent and she knows what she needs and she did what she needed to do.

So and for those who may be wondering what we're talking about, if you're not familiar, uh, Lauren and I opened the show talking about Naomi Osaka when she announced Monday that she would withdraw from the French Open, just days after tennis officials find her fifteen thousand dollars and threatened to ounce her from the tournament for opting out

of its mandatory news conferences. Miss Osaka explained via Twitter that speaking to the international media takes a heavy toll on her mental health, compounding the anxiety inherent to Grand Slam tournaments. What let me tell you what I love. I love that she chose her integrity over the money. Find me. I'm pulling out because I'm talented enough and I'm young enough. See, she ain't forty in tennis, She's

very young in tennis. So I can miss a year because the money I'm still gonna make in my endorsement. Y'all missing out on watching me play as more so than I'm missing out on playing. Because she's that young, and she's that brilliant and that talented. Hats off to And if more people would stand on their principle as opposed to looking at that check, we will have moved this needle just a little bit further. So whoever is in her camp because she's a young woman advising her,

hats off to, who's ever advising her? Because I would have told me the same thing. Kiss my dick in the face. You're not gonna ask me no questions I don't want to answer because I don't want to answer them. You're messing, you getting in my head. I got a job to do, and as soon as I dropped the ball at my job, you're gonna say, Oh, she wasn't ready, she wasn't good enough. But you have planted that in my head. Remember I went back when I said, it's what you take into your d n A some ship.

I don't need to know. I don't want to know because I don't want to have to think about it later. So good for you, Naomi. Tell tell him, I said, Tell him that he she we said to funk off, jump off a bridge with no water at the bottom.

Tell you know here too. It's another example, Lauren, where you and I have talked about this, how there was an opportunity I felt there for also tennis and sports to engage right and say, you know what, maybe we need to look at how these athletes are being treated and why fine immediately and not maybe saying you know what, whoa. We didn't know that this was possible that some people felt this way. What could we do to support this person who is clearly a revenue stream for our industry

instead of chastising her, why don't we support her? And it bothers me that that was not it appears that that was never even part of the conversation. The conversation was we're gonna find you if you're not here, and then we you know, this is why you see my hand. What color is the inside of my hand? Because they had they had it been this color as opposed to this color, maybe that would have happened. Or I mean,

we can talk about similarities in this situation. You know, Pierce Morrigan has been you know, has gone after Naomi Osaka is talking crap about her and saying all these different things. But I also read too, there's a Russian tennis player that I was actually just arrested while she was at the French Open because she was intentionally throwing you know, matches to gain profit. But that's not a

headline conversation. It's the fact that you know, all of these derogatory terms and talking crap about Naomi Osaka saying that valuing my mental health, that's the big headline, you know what I mean. So there's definitely showed himself. Pierce Morgan wants to get showed himself to be one of the most unpleasant people period. He enjoys beating up on women.

We've seen this, and I agree with you on that, Nia, but let's call let's let me let me call it out for y'all, since I don't want you all to see because you're in the media and you you're professional. I'm not. Pierce Morgan has been angry every since. Every black woman that he goes after shuns his ass. Sisters don't won't you, player, fand you a white woman or whatever you want, that won't you because the sisters keep showing you that they don't want you. I Eh, Megan

Marco the Sparkle with the real black girl Magic. I'm talking about with the real black girl Magic just had another baby for the ex prince baby, and that baby could be the President of the United States. And you know they named the baby after Diana. The second name is and the first name is is it Lizabeth little Bit, which is after the Queen And you know she's somewhere kicking and ship out of somebody. You know, the Queen man is here, that old whole kicking air body baby.

She mad as hell. Hats off to Harry and meg If for having another healthy beautiful baby to bring it, and this baby could actually be the president of the United States because this baby was born here in the United States. Wouldn't that be you say, how Calma work around. Wouldn't it be something that Dela girl grew up to be the president of the United States? Whoa the queen

would turn over a grave? Yes she would. She ain't dead yet, but in about sixty years when yeah, well, well, I think to keeping in the lane of sports and we can kind of segue into the next I don't know if it's the next topic on the list, Nick, but that's what's at the forefront of my mind, is that we also want to talk about the NBA and what happened. Um has been happening during the playoffs with um Russell rust Brook, UM, Trey Young, and um oh

Kyrie Irving too. So yeah, so at one of the Brooklyn Nets games during the playoff, Kyrie Irving had a water bottle thrown at him by a Celtics fan. Russell Westbrook had popcorn dumped on his head during um A Wizards in seventy sixers game. And then we had Trey Young was actually spit on at an Atlanta Hawks playoff game. So then remember the parents of what's his name were bullied in the stands, you know, young parents. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,

yeah yeah. So there's been a lot of um, you know, outcries for the NBA to do something and to actually protect the players, and you know, Lebron James has come out and made serious statements about what's happening, and other NBA Playoffs players, excuse me, are saying like, what are you guys going to do to protect us? Because people have been locked up in their houses for a long time. Yes, but it's interesting to see that the fans that are

really acting crazy are white. They are they're rich white folks that kind of feel entitled. And I've read some of the narratives, but they're saying that, you know, these rich white folks are coming to the games, they're getting drunk and just feeling entitled and are you know, basically you know, costing these players. So what are you guys going to do to protect them? Can I say something? Where is la Trail Spreewell when we need his ass?

Because when I tell you, Latreil s freeware when it came up out with the referee and anybody in his way to get to whoever threw something hid? Where is the trail spreewere when we need him? Well. The funny thing too is I loved Russell westbrook statement of it's interesting that you want to come after me and you know an arena where I can't get to you, because if we was on the street, you wouldn't be that bold and you wouldn't know what it would have happened.

So and a couple of players that made similar comments, which I think it's true because I wouldn't want to fight Russell Westbrook. He's crazy, so it's not even crazy. The deal is you are a different person when you will walk up to a grown man and throw a bottle at him directly. I don't see that happening. So throwing a bottle from the stands, like Flame likes to say, is a coward move where you can throw and then

hide your hands. You know. Um. And even if let's just be very clear, even if race we're not the motivating factor, there's a level of privilege that just goes behind something that allows you to feel like you can and with impunity just throw something that people are spent on somebody there, right, And like that that that I don't have to worry about consequences. I don't have to worry about anything because you are less than And this is what I can do to you, uh, you piece

of property or you performer. Go dance, monkey, go sing, go do whatever it is. I dance. We dribble that ball. Just shut up and dribble. I'm not up and dribble, right, that's what what's her name, Laura whatever from Fox said and and and in the defense, and y'all know, I'm never playing Devil's advocate. I feel how I feel. But in defense of the other people who are doing who are attacking about I don't even want to know that

it's think that it's all race. I think that because some people are just fanatics about their teams, you know what I mean, Like if you're a Lakers fan and they're playing whatever, the riot of Lakers is, I don't know. Yeah, okay, so some people are just real diligent about that. And what he had to do with color, even if it was a white boy that was on the opposite team.

Some people are like not meaning, but some are fanatics like that, like religious In this particular instance, he had this is what I'm going back to Lauren helped correct me here. In this particular instance, he had stomped on the logo before the game, right, and he used to play for the Celtics. All that haven't been said had he spat on the logo. I still don't think you

have a right to throw a bottle at him. And I think that's where I'm like, I would have rather be bottle then you spit on me, because if you spit on me, it's the lowest form of disrespect that you can ever do to another person. And I think that's what the issue is, and that's why they're saying that there's a race component here, because I don't know of any like like you just said, you would never spit on somebody. That's dehumanizing at the end of the day.

So I think that's why the race component is coming into this, because it's it's white fans doing this. It's not black fans. Like you may be a fan fanatic. I understand that you've been locked up in the house, but those aren't the personally. I have season tickets to the Laker games, so I've been going to the Lakers since they were at the form. Okay, I've been going to games for years. It's always the crazy white people at the game that have to end up being thrown out.

I'm just, I'm just that's what it is. And they're getting drunk off the beer and they start acting crazy and then you gotta call security and they gotta get scored it out. That's just what happens. I'm gonna put it in the air. I'm gonna put it in the air. Y'all better stop, because you know, these basketball players have laughs, and they before they became professional, they were guys hanging

out on the street, hanging with their friends. When Pooky Ray rating them is up in the stands and you don't know that Pooky Ray rating them with them and you you you you do some foul ship. They may not be able to get to you. But understand that don't mean that you can't get got that's true. That's true. Well, I'm telling you, if I'm thinking that I'm at a game and my life is threatening, I'm just doing my job.

I'm gonna have some protection in the stands and say, hey, get out of land if you want to, because it ain't got to come from me for you to get it. It came through me, but it ain't got to come from me. Understand that there is a method to the madness. And if you want to play mad man, let me show you the method I'm gonna get you with because you won't even know what's coming. Baby, it'd be it'd be just like that Coronabody is saying, theybe can't got

you? You You don't even know you got got I say it. I have to agree with play on that because I feel like Russell Westbo because Pookine Ray Ray and as friends and I just feel like he does He's he's a goon like by himself. I just don't understand the mentality of you thinking I was okay to dump popcorn on that man's head. So when when when come behind you said, did you just popcorn on him? Oh? I was just joking, and then you come up missing for

like two games. Makes sense, definitely makes sense. But you know, Lauren Flamed, this ties into also, um. I think it's another example. In the last few months we've just talked about We've talked about bad behavior we've seen displayed across the board in so many areas with people. Flame has and I've had this conversation. We wonder how much of it is anxiety around the pandemic. People are back out now and people are stressed or dealing with mental health

issues that come in various forms. I'm not saying, you know, I'm not diagnosing someone else. I think that dress is a true thing, you know, that may be associated with this pandemic over the last year. I think this is

my opinion. I think for sure, the fact that we were all locked up in the house for over a year, and you know, we're seeing things like people getting in fights on flights, and you know, all there's just a lot of built up I think emotion and in some cases anger and anxiety whatever you want to call it, wrapped up and a lot of people and they're trying.

They're lashing out at this point, like we're seeing a lot of folks lashing out, and that's how we have all these different instances of you know, fights and altercations and these things. So I think now more than ever, mental health should be prioritized really for for everyone. You know, um in a lot of ways, I've had friends that said,

you know, I think everybody should have a therapist. You know, I personally don't have a therapist, but it's just good to have an outside source to talk to, or you don't feel like you're going to have, you know, any biased opinions towards you, or you're going to be judged. So I think that at this point in time that we should all be prioritizing our mental health and encouraging people.

If we need to talk to somebody, please go talk to somebody, because you know, we haven't experienced anything like this in over a hundred years, so nobody really knows how to deal with this, you know. So, and I believe everyone of color should have a therapist. I genuinely believe that everyone everyone flame. I believe though, I believe that being a person of color, we carry so much generational trauma that we have just inculcated into our day

to day lives. Things we don't do because well that's not what we do, because they have not given us space to or we've been somehow um again, it's been inculcated into our culture that we well, we don't do that. But we watch them move in spaces where they don't have to worry about the repercussions of things, and I

feel like being a person of color. We really need to have tools to deal with these things, the different layers of aggression that are both implicit um and explicit, and I think that they happen every day in our lives. We need more black therapist then, because ain't no white therapists mean to tell me how to be how to be black? Period. And I'm sorry if somebody took that the wrong way. Ain't no white therapists can tell me nothing about being black. There is no white person that

can tell me anything about being black. And I'm not saying that offensively. I'm saying that honestly from my DNA. There is not a Caucasian person on this planet that can tell me anything about being a black person, not even just in this country at this time, just period. And there's too many white therapists, and black people keep going to white therapists thinking they can fix you. White people can't fix you. White people are part of the reason that we are broken. Let's be very clear and

very honest about it. There is no not a doctor, Field or nobody else that can tell me Yana black ass couldn't even fix and she was just starting in your house and leave it. You have to find somebody that you can talk to, that you trust with, that you like. Just because you've got pH ds and degrees does not mean that you can help me with my situation. And if you don't know my struggle and story because of my badge of honor, which is my skin color, there is not ship you can tell me. And please

don't take that offensively. If you're a white person, know here, because I'm not dragging you. I'm just telling you what you cannot do. For the Flame, I agree with that. I can't even hold you it. And I think because I know, like last week, we talked about, you know, the Tulsa race massacre that happened a hundred years ago.

Part of that story was for seventy five years, it wasn't talked about, but more so, the black folks that experienced that trauma didn't want to talk about it because it was so traumatic and they didn't want to talk about it. So that's so in that space, I definitely do agree with Flame, you know. And I watched reality TV shows and everything else, but mental health has been

coming up more and more. And on one show I was watching, there was a black mail he was saying, I'm very I'm a little depressed, you know, the pandemic. I've got some anxiety. But the only person that I want to talk to that I feel like it's going to understand me is another black male. Like I want a black male therapist because I feel like he's going to understand my experience and not belittle my trauma. So

in that space, I absolutely I agree with him. I think we definitely need more black and people of color, you know, mental health professionals. And I'm going to say this, Lauren, even using the race Masacre as an example, I think that's part of the problem. So you had older blacks who didn't want to talk about because that was traumatic and painful to them, so they didn't share it with us.

We talked about our amongst ourselves. How there are people within our group who knew nothing about it, right, So that information, that pain, that legacy is lost by not talking about it. So then we are prone to either allow mistakes from the past to repeat themselves because we don't have the information and the knowledge to stop it. Because I feel as though the benefit the oppressor has had is making us uncomfortable speaking and talking about our

own truth. Right, So what happens is they sit there like, well if they are gonna talk about what we got to talk about, because they'll just forget about it and move on. I can tell you right now to this day. And I don't know if I should be ashamed or what. But I love I love sound of music. Uh I'm sorry, Uh Gone with the Wind Flame, I love the other one that Flame, like with Betty Davis. But they make slavery seem so um it's it's I won't even say trivial.

It's part of the story and it's an integral part of the story, right, but what it isn't isn't the horror story. Flame talks about nobody putting bags over the Sun's head and making them have sense like I didn't see that part and Gone with the Wind, you know, it's just you know so and I didn't see that part.

And um, I can't think of the name of it now, Flame with Betty Davis said we both love but it's just but what But it's it's a thing where they made sure the history was told, but it was told in a way that wasn't true to our history and the way we know it. So no, no, no, no, no, No, it was told from their view. It was told from their eyesight. Not it wasn't because you're talking about the movie Jezebel with Betty David you but it was told

from their point of view. So it made slaves like, we love being slaves, we were happy, we would we love to be complicit and co that is not the truth. They didn't show the beatings and the lastings. So I know what you're saying, Nicholas, but I don't agree with that. And I do love going with the wind too, and I don't want them to remove it. I know they were saying they're going to remove it. They want to remove it. But if we, like you said, if we

don't know our history, we will repeat it. The problem is too many black and brown people are relying on the colonized education system to teach our children black history. It is your goddamn job in your house to teach your children what you have been through, which means that you need to sit down and have a conversation with your mother, your grandmother, and whoever else is older than them, so they can come down through the lineage and tell you the truth and not what they want you to know.

In the textbook because right now that there's a whole bill to remove black history, they don't even want to talk about slavery, and they don't want to talk about the Germ Crow South. Now they want to remove that from school. It is your job, as a black person, as an indigenous person, as any person of color, to teach your children their own history, because they're not gonna teach you in school. Everything is just mintin Luther King,

Child mine Luther King. Then believe in valence, Slappy. If you won't do, I'm gonna show your ask Malcolm make, you're gonna be sitting right next to him. Well, I think to the important part is us. As to your point as well, Flame is also taking back our history.

And I think one of the most recent examples that I can think of in terms of movie cinema is we all remember well when hopefully a lot of us remember when Birth of a Nation originally came out, and what the premise of that movie was about to showcase that, you know, black men were raping white women and black men were so problematic and black people need to be

in change in chains. And then in two Sen Nate Parker decided to remake the movie and tell it from the perspective of what was actually happening to slaves during that time. And I think the remake of Birth of a Nation was probably one of the most explicit films that I really really gave insight to what slavery was like. So um, i'd say that as well as I think

it's also too about taking back our history. And I know a lot of times I see all over social media people were like, I'm tired of seeing these movies about slavery and black marama. I want to see us celebrated. I wholeheartedly agree with that too. I want to see black culture celebrated. All the amazing things that we've done for this country. But we still have to remember where we came from. He had seeing it. Imagine if you had to live in it, right eye. Ancestors lived in

it every day. And this country once again has existed with slavery being a part of it much longer than it has without, So we have to also recognize that. And that's real. So when I say to you that, I feel like we carried that trauma in so many different ways that it just manifests itself in ways that we don't even think about because it's inculcated into our DNA.

I genuinely need that. When when I decided this summer to come out and just call myself big black, it wasn't because I haven't always known I was big and black, but I was ashamed of being big and black because I've moved in spaces where they wanted people look more like Flame. You know, Nick, you a little too dark? You're not? No anyway? You care what I'm talking about? Lauren? Well know what I mean. We can actually let's bring

in some flamets and see what they gotta say. A couple of things so far, Flame, What do you do? Are you doing pilates? Are you doing yoga? What are you doing? She stopped eating bacon? No, that's not try a five pieces this morning. You know I said I cut back. I ain't stopped eating ship diet. What color? Oh my gosh. Anyway, what have you been doing different?

Here's the question I want to ask for my listeners, and I want you to answer me this, and I want this from black folks please, and I'm not being racist, but this is what I want. What it's the black agenda. Please answer that question for me and don't come on here just talking about reparations and money of us. We need that. What is the black agenda? Hi? John, how are you welcome? We missed you last week? Hey, Hey, how y'all doing? Do you change your has since coffee time?

This morning? I changed man to my head was hurting and thought I let my braids hang that' don you've been listening to the conversation Before you answer my question, what is the black agenda? Tell me what you think about our conversation we were having thus far. Please about our athletes and everything else. I've been agreeing with everything. I've been agreeing what you said, Lauren flame Nick, I

agreed everything. But the athletes people are just minds. Hey, OK, then why are they're sitting up there doing stuff at people? But the young lady, the Naomi uh Naomi Osaka, she has every right to protect her mental health, whichbody would have taught us and thirty years to go to protect don mental health. So she's young and doing it. She she's she's she's making money. And if they don't like it, mother had a mother love him you know the rest. Ye oh yeah, Please please speak up on the issue

because you've been in the comments kind of heavy. That's why I had to bring you in because I know you've got some thoughts so about these NBA players, So go ahead and share. Um Herst Harry started that stuff in Boston, and he knows what that what that logo means to those people in Boston. You you can't reinvent the wheel. He knew what he was doing. They don't even have happy hour in Boston because of the way

they act with liquor. But anyway, if if black NBA players would start marrying their own, they wouldn't have been running into this if they thought, you dick Jane there and watch them play, and they're sitting there wishing that they could do with like them. We do want to turn around and marry out women. That's right, That's all that's hidden aggression. White into the plane take off and then start acting the ass. They're never doing a taxi

and they wait to the plane in the air. So I believe that you better love, honor and respect your black woman. The well, the show is alway later. Yea, we have had a wonderful today because just shut it down. Baby. Well, y'all talking about in birth of a Nation while they're saying that black men raping white women. There's no need for you, the raper white woman. All you need to do is say that you're a professional athlete. There's no they're gonna throw the panties at you. Right, that's the

top of the show. That of the show is what is the black agenda? But I tell you what we could say all you want, if you want some white cat, all you gotta do is say you're a professional. You can say you're a hockey player and ain't even that many of us and hockey ships. And then as much and in as much as I agree with both of you ladies, we can't fault that. We cannot fault the

black women. We have the fault the black man. It's the black man who keep thinking that Mary and Mary and Becky with the good hair is going to raise yourself. And love is love. I'm not knocking love. If you're in love with that person, I get it. But don't marry for thinking that that's going to be your trophy wife or your stature, because that's beautiful black women to be your trophy wife. And but this goes back to generational trauma. Help me here, don we got foopas were

too dark and we got fooples. They don't want that. They get they got the money to go get their aspecting hair. I don't have foopa. I got dupa. Well, I got a poopa and I'm too dark and they don't they don't won't know, but don't want to. But I ain't never self eliminate. We in the starting gates. I'm running my best race. I don't know who's standing next to me in the room. You know, it's interesting. You know what's interesting though that I just realized it's

like the players that get messed with the most. I've just had an epiphany are the ones that have the black wives. Have y'all realized that Lebron James has a black wife, Russell Westbrook has a black wife. They're the ones that get, you know, kind of targeted the most. And that's interesting. It's hidden aggression. White men are not sitting there cheering for you unless they think they have the upper hand. So they already mad that you're these big, old,

statuous men with all this ecleticism. And then for the larger portion of the numbers, you didn't had all these white women. You know, cause when the rookies come that's the only only people they bring around them. That's those those groupies trust all stage for every sport in college. So when you get lebron in in X, Y and Z, they take that hit in aggression, that passed aggression and they passing on to them. They don't want it to

look too obviously, you know what I mean. And I really, I really, really really believe that the Kardashians think they got everything on lock. Ain't no, my boy's gonna sleep behind all them brothers, No, all that messed over stuff like oh my god. And it's like they go after black man, that's all they go after. And the black man, well, well, in defense of the black men, Nick, I'm here that you come right in in defense of the black men.

When it comes to the white women, a lot of like me and young black men watch porn, and they watch a lot of black men destroying white girls and porn. It is a fantasy in their head. It starts in their teen years and it's looking at it's the truth. So it really is the truth that you watch a lot of porn, and they watched these big black bucks destroying these little white girls, and that is a fantasy.

So they wanted at that fantasy sometimes get them twenty five years and the penitential to the white Yeah, it does, it does. But I'm telling you it starts young. Because I've caught my son watching porn and he watched he watching the black black. He watches a lot of the black guys sleeping with the white girls. Tell him to go in the google black porn black. If you have self hatreot, that's what you desire, if you have self hatred.

I mean I've set up amongst women, uh, in the parent groups, women watching our sons play first rite of patcheck passages. Oh you know these white people crazy about him? What the hell did you just say to me? Like it's a rite of passive or you know this white family or this white and all it is is a cycle building in his mind. You know, I really believe that. You know, part of that is passed on generational curse Parma,

and I think part of it. You know, they can't wait to celebrate these boys because all the white people really want to hang out, would them when they get on campus, they don't walk to their classes. They have somebody taxing them over in golf courts. They already started giving them this imagery and all they surround them. What is a bunch of white folks and white girls? You better think about it so catrid. You gotta know your work. Hold on, go ahead and chime in, Come on, say

something that. I think that everything that has been it is completely valid. But I also think that sometimes the uh, simplest answer is the easiest one. I think that young boys, in particular, having been one, you covered what you see. So if all you see is hustler, if all you see is playboy, if all you see is you know, uh, the guys who are stars right now, and they're with a particular actress who may or may not be black.

Um and we've got to remember too that there aren't many black actresses in as many because they don't get booked as often as some of the other actresses. Because um, so they they're going to the sites and the um the productions that they enjoy. So that's what they're seeing. And I don't think it's so much conscious decision to

only prefer a one particular type of woman. I think that also, and this is just me, and I don't want to go into an area that's two blue in case there are those who this is in love lines like PA would say. But I also think that men ladies don't make that association like um. For guys, I think it's really physical more than emotional. And I don't know how to say that. I don't want to sound crass,

but I think that that's not in it. I'm sorry, Okay, you know I love the vagina, so I'm gonna speak on this because I love the vagina period, and it could be any color. When I want to smash, I'm not looking at the color. I'm turning lights out and going in. But the fantasy, the fantasy for the young black brother, a lot of the younger because what you you're speaking old school hustler, play girl. All that ship is on land now, pawn herb and Twitter. You can

see anything you want to. You can see them fucking goats and everything else if you want to, because that's well, it's the truth. It has become readily available at the type of your fingers. So it's a lot of it. It's fantasy. A lot of it is fake. But when you get a chance to live it out in real life, that makes it different. And it's not about them not being loving with their sisters because of black women promote black men to marry a black woman, period. That is

the truth. Black mothers promote their black sons to marry a black woman, but you have no say so over what your son marries or who they fall in love with. So what Jane and Don was saying, when these young college boys getting ready to come to college they slew you with a gang of white girls, say they let them white girls do any and everything to your body that you never experienced. So you think that sisters don't do that because the white girls have done everything, So

you think a black woman ain't gonna do that. So that is why they get in their head and then grained in their DNA that I have to marry somebody like this because she's gonna keep me satisfied. So it is not that Nicholas at all. I promise you it's not. You know, I hadn't been across the spectrum. I had Asian, white, black, indigenous, homeless crazy crazy. By the way, by the way, the

craziest bitches got the best. I'm thinking about just getting me a cotton sitting outside the mental health and so because them girls right there got the good good, I'll tell you right now, I'm just trying to get me some of them. I'm trying to give me some megamark of the Sparkle baby because Cardi be her Man kept cheating. But I'm telling you it is anything grained in their head because they're young and it's funked up, and I'm

Sara's sucked up. But black women, black women who have black sons, really pushed for their black sons to marry a black woman. Where it gets smoky in the water is especially when they're professional athletes or they're going to people. When they get to them colleges, them coaches and all them people get in their head and slew them with a ton of Becky's with a good hair. I think all they do is take them and use them and make them babies and then that's a cash call for

the rest of their natural lives. Well, I think in an example to what you're talking about, I can't think of the name of the movie, but I'm talking about the movie. It's uh, it's a Spike Lee movie, but it's with Ray Allen and Denzel Washington. He's got game banking. That's a perfect example of it. Thanks I could take the name exactly, you know, and it's just the fact. And then you know the little white pearls have the car. It's like you're feeling startom even if you know you're

not gonna play professionally. It boosts this year he got. Yeah, you know, they they don't make the plan feel very leveled when you get there because they're pushing their promoting her exactly. You know what I mean, I have lived that. And you know what to add to what you're saying, T T j. And because the h b c us don't have the money like the big white schools, does they go to the white schools because that's where the money.

And then but they're changing that. Baby, you better look at them black, Yes, you you just but better be careful because the HP are usual coming for blood. They we are promoting them in it all terms start getting these kids they need. That's a whole. That's a whole. Another issue too that you guys are talking about in terms of HBCU using sports, is that T. GJN is

absolutely right. We have or I think Donna think you just said that, is that we have a lot of these like athletes that are coming out of high school that are you know, possibly like NBA players or NFL players, and they're going to these p w wise which stands for predominantly white institutions. For those that you don't know, they're going to these p wise because that's how they

know that they can get their contracts. You know, if you historically, if you went to a Howard University for a basketball scholarship, you may not get drafted as a first round draft pick for the NBA. You know, if you can go play for coach k at Duke, you know, uh, there you go, or U n C. Absolutely, so their economics play a huge part. If you don't get a get picked for the NBA. At an HBC, you got your degree, you have the professors that cared about you

to get your lessons. Yeah, but I know what they're not looking to get. But you know what I would tell children if you don't get it, if you can degree, get a degree in bullish it just as long as that. I hear part of what Joanna saying though, because you know, even you know dudes that I've talked with that have been athletes, it was like, oh, I'm just gonna go for a year and get out and try and go

being a you know, a big league or anything. And I'm like, no, get your degree at the end of the day, because if you get hurt, what's your fault, Black plan, You don't have it. You don't have a degree, you don't have anything else to do. So I hear what you're saying on that front. Down I agree with that education, but nobody bull no going to take a chance of being hurt playing college ball and be knocked

out from getting up a contract or going up. So yeah, they do go for an education, but they already know they're short term or trust I've been around too. I've been around too too long to know that to be factual. They don't even plan on getting degrees. Do go back later. But when you're talking about money, yeah, set your family free, y mama, your that's a good answer. They started, and those kids in college and have they started. They made a decision, what you know, and I'm not mad at

them about that at all. I'm not mad about that at all at all. Okay, So here's the question I want to propose to you, both of you all. What is the black agenda? Okay, hold up, Dohn, you go first, Go ahead, go first. Well, like we said, I said earlier, it's so much that we need. Hell, where do we begin? I don't. I don't know where to begin. That's that's a that's a wide question. Where do we begin? I don't. I don't know. We need so much, we need laws

in place for us. You know, it seems, as I've said this earlier, everybody else can get things targeted for their race, for their community except us. You know, we need protection, we need fair house, and we need um what is it called um across? We just needed everything, you know, but we need to have the right representation to speak for us. You know what, I'm gonna gifer just a little bit. I don't think there's an agenda, and I don't want to be landlocked with saying X,

Y and Z. You know what I mean. I don't. I don't want to chisel it down on paper. This is the black agenda, because it's like you said, darn, we need everything. So I can't up and say, hey, give me that and give me this, because in the next five years it could change for something else for the kids behind us, you know what I mean. UM, So, I don't see uh agenda being a blueprint or a tempest for the future. How about just giving us fair opportunity.

How about you knowing I'm not wishing that I'm you. I'm okay with being me. See you got a problem with me. I don't have a problem with you. I never woke up saying I wish I was blind with blue hair. I like being black. It's not convenient, but I like this exactly. What do you think I think? Uh? For me, I do think that they're UM. There's nothing wrong with an action plan and one that begins with

an honest conversation about acknowledging our history. Lauren, I genuinely believe we can't get anything done until we really have a conversation about who we are as a country, the pain we have inflicted on a people, UM, the way I believe race and bigotry and racism is inculcated in everything that is quote end quote American UM. And that is around housing, that is around healthcare, that is around education.

So I think until we have a conversation about who we are as a country, how this country was built on the backs of black people who were in slaved I really think everything else is perfunctory. So this is my thought and I'm going into a little different lane. I think the black agenda should be us as a Black community getting on one accorded first, first, and foremost. That's what I think, because I think within our community we still have a lot of underlying stigma that has

not been addressed. There's still an issue of black folks not accepting, you know, the LGBTQ community and their stigma around that. I think that there's still an issue of us not knowing how to support one another like we see in other communities like Asian community and different things like that. So I think until we as black folks can actually get on one accord and truly support us no matter what shade we are in this essence and in this instance, we can't get anywhere because we're gonna

keep fighting each other. We gotta start there first before we expect somebody from an outside race to actually support us and do something. That's how I feel, Lauren. I still and I know Flame is going to close this out, But Lauren, if we're saying that just being honest in this safe space, because it's only the five of us, um, I still have my own personal biases against people who are light skinned and quote unquote pretty right, Okay, thank

you done done? Because I grow well, you know, so and so got good hair, and you know so and so. You know so it's a light skin, so that made him more attractive. So I was never the one picked, and so I still walked with around with that bias. I was never a thirty two inch waist because I was always a bigger every all the girls they look like Lauren always wanted to Oh he fag because he got good hair, you know what I'm saying there. So it's always that thing too. So um if you, if

you weren't a capit, you couldn't get Lauren's attention. Not you, Lauren, but Lauren, you know what I'm saying. So it's so it's one of those things where I've got to get past my own bias that well, you know, flame is I was gonna be more proper because flame was light skinned, Flame was Flame was small. Flame. Can I say, Marcus, I mean, you know, I'm sorry, look she forgot but but but old pictures of flame, uh you think you're like damn uh good hair like so you get the idea.

But let's talk about the different hues. Look at look at my arm right now, My top of my arm is lighting my titty and look at the bottom of my arm and looked like I got gloves on. We come in so many beautiful shades and so many gorgeous hues. It's not them, something like I'll saying, it's not always them, it is some of us. And I don't know the darker struggle because I've never been dark, even though I think there are beautiful dark people in the world, and

I talk about on Love Lounge all the time. I think Tika Sumter from Having Have Nots is one of the most beautiful black women on the planet right now. And she is dark skinning, but she is a beautiful woman. We gotta get past looking at the huge So I

get that part. But my black agenda right now, because if we had a town call, if Biden called for a meeting right now with black black leader and with the white folks, and he said, he asked the black leader, let's say, um, President Obama, what is the black agenda. You can't come with ten things. You got to come with one thing that's going to have an impact on

all the black community. Because all of these so called celebrity rappers and all these people who have so much influence six months ago, was telling us hold your vote, hold your vot until they come up with the black agenda. They told us to hold a vote, but they never laid out a blueprint on what the black agenda was. Ice Q said that he was going with Trump's plan of what Trump's plan is to annihilate and get rid of anybody that's not that's not fall in line in

complicity with what his plan is. This has nothing to do with black. Black is at the bottom or at the top. But if you're you are in his pocket. All the niggas is quiet right now. You don't hear none of them niggas saying a damn thing. But the primaries are coming up. I want them to have the same energy then that they have now. Don't say ship because you're doing detriment to your people. And too many

people are lost in the amazes of their mind. So you play follow the leader with somebody who don't know who the funk they are, so you want to follow them. Loss follow loss. That's why I seventy four million people voted for Trump cause loss follow loss. I ain't lost the flame, mess ain't lost. You got to know who you are. You have to know who you are in order for your life to be successful. And that don't mean being rich. That means being content and happy. Yeah,

and having some plain old common ass. Well, good luck with that, all these dumbasses on here ship. But I think that's why I'm saying, is that until we as a community get on one accord and nothing is actually gonna move forward because of things that I just said said. You know, we've all said between the five of us, and so we get on one accord, there is no moving forward. There isn't because we got like you said, we got ice Cube saying the whole your vote. You know,

we got this one. You know over there, you know we have the Kanye West and I could go on, you know about the just And that's what I'm saying. And they know that, and they know that because we're not on one accords and you know who, you know, you know who told us that, and we didn't listen. Nancy Pelosi then when they tried to impeach Trump the very first time, she said we're not ready. She didn't mean that we didn't have the information to impeach this food.

What she meant was that we are not together as a unit to do it together. We all over the plane the Democrats. First of all, let me talk about the Democrats needs some balls. Second of all, I watched the news this weekend. I do believe that Liz Channey was part of the conspiracy theory that I talked about. She made it look like she was for us. She never would see how question she is. Now you see how question she is now? Okay, we could get into

Liz Cheney. I was really upset that everybody was trying to root for her and every thing. I'm like Liz Chenese record, she's still like the time voted with Trump. So let's just call spade in that space. So but anyway, she got me for him, and she didn't get me for a minute. I ain't gonna front. She did smoothe me over. But if I see you, I'm taking a deer hunt like a daddy win. Here's the deal that you know again, I believe this, and I'll close it

out because we're at our time. But part of the secret to with the oppressor is to continue to have those who are oppressed fight amongst themselves. Right, So what happens is we forget all about the four the People Act. How simple was it? Five months ago we talked about, of course it makes sense that we should have clear voting rights across the country. They have chipped away at that.

Now it doesn't look like we have the momentum for that that we're even questioning, well, what are democrats doing. We were all on board on this not even five

months ago, and something happened in the political discourse. Because there's always a shiny object, right, they throw out vaccine, they throw out stimulus, they throw out the economy, things to distract, So the bouncing ball continues to move, and we're doing like this, right, So the political discourse, the conversation changes, and we're still no closer to enacting laws that guarantee people who are part of this country the opportunity to participate and a fair and free election. And

that's absolutely ridiculous. That should be part of the black agenda. Well, they won't happen in our lifetime. The only way we're gonna ever get fair treatment in this country or in this in this world, God gonna have to destroy the whole earth and we had to start over because it's just not gonna happen. It is too many people who you you're trying to make me. I got my glasses on. I see everything when my glasses on. But I watched January six and January six in this country meant two

different things to two different sets of people. To us, we were celebrating in uh in Um, Georgia that we turned Georgia blue. But to them, they were right insurrection. They were rioting at the capitol. But they said that they were it was tourists, and will I never say no tourists busting windows and ship exactly? They were right,

they're the right. That was that we didn't get the whole story about that they and jan We won't because not enough people believe it's necessary to have a bipartisan investigation. And we all watched this. But that's gas sliding at its best. You did not see what you thought you saw. What are you talking about? Flame? That flame? It was a tour. Why do you try to make it something that it wasn't. It was a simple tour like any other day at the Capitol. And I'm a real woman.

If if if I decided that I in my head and write it down that I want to go and finish what they did January six, they have stopped my playing before I even get over there. Well that's already been established too. Is that there's some you know, congressional leaders and senators that said, if this was black lives matter, of course, I wasn't been scared. You know, they wouldn't have even breached. They would have been climbing up the wall like Spider Man. Here's the kickoff. Here's the here's

the kickoff. Here's the kickoff. This nigga say in August that they were going to reinstate him back into into presidency. Understand me, if y'all wanted a civil war, y'all didn't get what y'all wanted, be ready. Well, I to know to the one time, I will give Mark Zuckerberg a shout out. They did suspend Trump's account until for the next two years, so that is somewhat a good thing for Facebook and Instagram. He could have done it indefinitely.

It's true, he could have. You know, what I see it as is they're just trying to get past primaries. So I appreciate that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's it's small, it's it's small. But I appreciate Mark on that because because Facebook honestly perpetuates a lot of hateful messaging, they do. Don't read. Don't read the messages, Nicholas, don't read, don't read the comments. Jim Jones ain't got ship on

forty five. I don't know what I forgotten his mouth, but I don't off the rare kool aid, all the green kool Aide. It's definitely it's slow. It's the slow. We're gonna do that at the Prince. It's a slow kool aid. It's the slow kool aid. On a lighter note, ladies and gentlemen, on this Wednesday, I'm celebrating my very first graduation. My son is graduating from high school this Wednesday. I also have one Monday and Tuesday of next week.

So I'm a proud bird over here. Well as always, thank you John, and thank you T t. Jan. This was a great unexpected convo. And and we see you guys tonight at Love Lounge. Thank you Jane, Thank you Um Dawn. We will see you at the Love Lounge tonight. Nicholas, where you at? Where you at? Baby bad? Here? There he is there he is quite interesting conversation. And see what it is is that the Black agenda means so many different things to so many different Black people, because

if you ask people, the first thing they holly is reparation. Well, the thing is, you know why we're not don want a court, why we can't get an agenda together, because we don't want to court. If there it is right, right, Nicholas and Lauren, we're not a monolithic people because once again we definitely liked this conversation for that reason. Right, what would you like? Would you like reparations? I believe reparations are only a part of the whole process. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

But let me ask you a question. So if they gave every black person three hundred thousand dollars and and then and the black person, the person some because some people will have a plan, Some people are businessman and seven and that three hundred thousand dollars will last them because they would grow a business, start a business, grow

a lifetime. But if I gave it to my uncle, who I know is a fucking drunk and gonna go on the corner and get high and play gone cards again, so three hundred thousand dollars might last him three from five months, and then he's broke again. Then what you see what I'm saying, If you ain't got no blueprint, if you don't have a plan, a master plan, don't deserve the money because and we need somebody needs to eyeball to make sure that you are following the guidelines

that you set up for yourself. And I'm not. And I just want to say this too. I don't want what I'm saying to come off like I'm putting all of the onus on the Black community of why we're in this state, because that is not true at all. We are in this state is because of systematically what has happened to us. That is definitely a fact of you know, colorism, of us being basically crabs in a barrel amongst each other. So it was definitely outside forces working.

But to Flames point is that outside forces continue to work continuing. Absolutely, You're not gonna talk about Tim Scott on my laugh, You're not gonna talk about Bay and Jones on my laugh. But I'm just saying, is that, so where do you start? You know, do you start at the landownership? Because if you give people land, though, and they can't pay for it, then you're back in the same place that you started, So it's like where do you start? Or they don't have the training to cultivate.

I got a whole garden in the back and the dead tomatous because I don't know how to plan. I don't know how to do that. Training. I need training. I need you have to teach me these things so that I will know. So where do you start? If you don't how to file your taxes correctly? And then you get a lean put on your house, and like, there's just so many different things that could possibly happen because we just don't have the education. We don't have

the things set up to make you fail. And then when you do get it, let's say property, then we're back in a situation where maybe through you know, just simply through a different act or different proclamation, we take that land because we're going to do you know, imminent domain, and or we're building a highway. Guess what nick that place that you had over there and cottage girl, we're just going to go through that because they're building a

new freeway. You know. I think ultimately what has happened and what we've seen this happened, they'll just kill us the ones that knew how to do what we're talking about. They were just murdered, that's what. Or or drag somehow image image, uh, sullied, whatever the thing is, Absolutely I completely agree. Well, first of all, nickas forty seven College Grows in Chicago. If y'all don't know, I did some of my best working forty seven College grow in my

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on Series Radio every Friday on channel one. And you have an interview to this Friday, and I have an interview this Friday with Serious Radio. Oh, happy Pride month. It is Pride month, but pride starts with you. Where you pride in January? Farewee Marching, April and May, and will you be pride in July, August, September, October, November, d sim because pride sauce with you. I'm not just proud in June. I'm proud all the time, are you? And I posted on flames page about her interview. I

did that? Oh yeah, Lauren did that? You see all the backlash because class starts with you and baby, they are not going This is for the black community or any community that wants to be relevant and and and heard and seen. They're not going to see us until we see ourselves. Black folks, we gotta see us. Gay people, we gotta see ourselves. You have to see you first before you decide for somebody else to come in and accept you. Accepting stars write in that person when you're

looking at in the mirror. Some of y'all so lost when you're look in the mirror, the reflections just turned around looking like like, bitch, you don't know who you are? Why the know? I'm just saying, okay, ladies, I'm here at laughing. Learn here that laughing. Learn we are not what we are not trying to get you to change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind. Because why some of you hosts ain't got one.

Some of y'all just real dumb real talk. Ain't got no common sense and I just see what I see it. Let me get in my Keyshia voice. And no, no, we we appreciate critical thinking here there. This is a zone, a judgment free zone. Come with it, correct because the Flame Maths is some of the smartest listeners on the social media. And you come down, we hand you your ass starting with the bitch with the blue glasses Hello, and on that not Nick, Where can everybody find you?

If you can find me on all social media platforms at Nick Smith News and you can find me on Instagram at Lauren Armani h as well as on YouTube I am Lauren Hogan and Flame. You can find me on the host Shrow but not in this dress. No, you can get me on Instagram, which is right here in Monroe. Flame. Tonight we will be doing Love Lounge between six thirty and seven live. Come and join us for the conversation and the music we propose to Lauren and um what else can you find me? On Facebook?

Marcus Flame, Monroe Parker and on what else YouTube? On YouTube on the Flame Monroe. Because we don't promote Twitter, my Twitter, it's four point, it's full on point I promise you it's it's a reason that the young black boys are being corrupted on my Twitter page because good God. By Flame Mass next week, Tosha k We got of that, Tiffany Hattish. It only gets better. Thank you Kendell, thank you, Triple, thank you, Flames, Peace, Laugh and Learn is a production

of The Black Effect Network and I Heart Radio. Our executive producer is Tiffany Hattish. The show is produced by Triple. Our theme music is by Chrissy Paine.