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spirit make you want to revisit. So your first like a listen you folks like you slip oh folks that we dig it good. No do what you do, nokish, do what you don't? No kids, do what I do. Welcome to laugh and learn. We're a little early because we have something to do, but we're glad that you guys are here to join us. So come on the end, Come on the end, come out in the room, and we have a special guest today. We do have a very special guest. Turn the camera. Look, child, my dog

is here today. That's the lady Sky Sky Sky, Say hi, say hi to everybody. Sky. We also have Timmy in the room. But Timmy's in the room, but Timmy civilized, unlike my doughter. No Timmy just being territorial. Timmy feels like, oh, you're gonna add her in the room, but I can't have my punk hands up in here. Yeah, I'm not having y'all. See. I was gonna put my head on.

I got my blouse from Story at Beauty, thank you, Marjorie, and I was gonna put my head on, but it don't go with my it won't fit over the headphones. So I got my mama from Janet from Good Times Janet Jackson. Mama, I got that has stytle on right now. You know the one who burned Penny burned it with that and did not tell you little girls, not supposed Mama, Please please don't, mama. I got more information from that than we did from uh the documentary. Though. Okay, we're

gonna get there, but we don't have to start. We don't have to start there, So let's do weekend recaps. That was your weekend. My weekend was pretty good. I got your car, she's cute. Lauren drove. Lauren drove Maxine. Now technically she didn't draft, she just turned it around and park. I had to go park here. But she did like you very cute, f y. Lauren is real high end and boogee fancy. So if she said it was cute, you believe her, honey, because you know she real.

You know what, don't be telling people my business her Mercedes at cheap rang. I ain't like her, y'all. Mr Ruber call, don't even try it. That's the elitist of the elite jeep. Well well yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, don't try to minimize it. Uh, it's hybrid. That was the attraction. It was hybrid. I ain't got no damn gas. Hey guys to the half of us, Hey everyone, hello, flame man's. We're gonna depend on you all today to come on the end to work with these topics with us. Lauren,

how was your weekend? My weekend was actually really chill. I had to work on Saturday, a little bit pretty. I need to feel I'm getting one on Friday. It looks crazy, Um, I gotta keep the nail kill. Look at pretty Lauren's hands, a see, let me tell you what you get old. Let me look Miss Jenny was all painted their face. Jenny Jackson put her hand up on that special bitch. I thought it was a witch's hand I did. I didn't see, but they didn't count money,

so you would notice things like that training train. No, my weekend was good. Um, I really didn't do anything. I worked a little bit on Saturday and then I went out to lunch with my coworkers afterwards. Y'all, yesterday I did grocery shop and I got my car washed, I washed my hair, I did some laundry, I cooked dinner woman stuff. I was very domesticated, very man. When she gets married so I can meet Mr uh whatever his name is. Yeah, whatever his name is, come mister Hogan.

Because y'all don't know how aggressive this, let me just say it. Thank you, Joseph T. We got great, and I want to thank all my flame mats and all the followers who really did go in and watch and listen to my heart our episode from Laugh and Learned last week with the lady herself, Angela Stanton King, I thought that we came to a common ground and I was so glad that Lauren was here to be to mediate and ask questions that I wouldn't haven't even thought of,

and it just was. It was a smooth conversation. Do you think you agree Lauren. I think it was. But I think the main take away that I got is that, you know, she's in a different headspace. I think if she was in the same space when she did Dr Phil, it could have gone real left, real quick. She might have reached through the internet and slapped because she wanted to left that other one. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. It wasn't It wasn't anything crazy. She was really engaged.

Just seems like, you know, she's really had conversations with Jay and which is great. So I'm happy for them to see, you know, how they continue to grow and you know, men their relationship and I'm looking forward to interviewing with her on the nineteen. It's February, So what you guys need to know is that next month, which is February, which is tomorrow, is actually so we're going to do a Black History Moment every Monday, and if we like it, we'll do it. We'll continue. Black History

ain't got to be one month. My Black History is every daymn day, just like my pride is every day, not just in June. I'm proud right now. I might not be proud of this hair, but I'm proud right, Well, I think too, And black history doesn't just have to be history. It could be what's going on today, which is going to end up being history. You know what I mean? Because that's kind of the uncontroversial black histery moment I got today. But where do you want to start? Oh?

I want to start right here because I was cooking chicken for y'all this morning and watching the news and thank you Kendall. Has y'all say hello? To avoid Kendall? I can't rememan Ken Kendall was here. Hey, Kendall, let me tell you what I want to start with because I was cooking chicken and trying to rush to get here. Y'all see, ain't got no makeup on. I do get on a little live gloss though, is that Joe the ex president? Let me see it? Like Sonny Houston says

one term twice impeach president. Ex President Donald J. Trump said that if he is put back in the White House, he would pardon all. The insurrection is one insurrection, ain't y'all? Ain't that the argument now? That there was no insurrection? Right? It was a White House tour exactly. So who are you gonna pardon or not? A White House. I'm sorry, it was a tour of the I'm just making sure y'all paying attention to what was said and what he

said and what I'm saying. There was no insurrection according to the media and the gops that the trumplikins. But now he's saying that he's going to pardon all the people who showed up at the insuraction. It's interesting because, you know, but the story changes every week. Are we really surprised the story changes every week? Can we please put a charge on him so that he would not

be allowed to run for president of the United States? Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work, uh, because I'm getting a little nervous because by the way things are going, Joe and getting reelected, and that slides into my black

history moment. It may be a little unconventional, but I want to talk about the amaud are Very case and how the d J and the Biden administration gave both of these fools plea deals regarding their charges, and because of that, they now have the opportunity to go live out their life sentences in a federal prison instead of being in the state prison in Georgia, which is not a retreatment camp, because that's what happens in federal prison. You get a little more luxury rather than being thank you,

rather than being in a state prison. And the family is upset about it. They should be because state prisons are terrible. I've been in state prison before. I know exactly what they do. They would have got we would have gotten justice one way or another in the state prison. And let me just say that, in the federal prison, it's like damn what they call it camp fit fit

X or what they call that. Well, if you even look at the movie like Good Fellas, the difference, some of them wanted to go to jail to get away from their wives because it was like a little getaway. I know it's a movie, but there's some truth in every storyline. Um well, somebody said that's why they pleady guilty. Simply said, that's why they pleady guilty because they knew they were going to come back with that. Whatever the case may be, their freedom is still taken away. They

still are incarcerated. I would like to have seen them in a state prison, especially in Georgia, because they would have gotten the business. And I'll say this too, it hasn't all been confirmed that this is going to happen, but supposedly the deal was signed and this is supposed to happen, So I'm looking ahead. I'm just saying, if you signed the damn deal, the next step is only inevitable. So the country we live and the decisions we make at the ballot boxes. Meanwhile, they are still moving and

shaking the voting rights. We ain't gonna stay on politicis. I told you I want to be on positives. I want to talk about who pregnant right now because I think I'm Are we going in the hot topics officially? No, no, no, I want you to do I want you to do it like when you don't want you to run into the thing. Speaking of Wendy, did y'all see me on Wenday Wednesday? I was on Wenday? I know how did you like it? Oh? My god? I hate that it was you know zoom, But it was such a good

energy with Sherry Shepherd. Thank you Sherry Shepherd for inviting me on. And we thought we were doing hot topics. We actually ended up being interviewed and invited back, and Sherry supposed to be well, I don't know they got some coming guest They got a couple of guest hosts coming up for the first couple of weeks of February. But then Sherry will be back. Okay, no, no, I'm saying it's going to be a guest on our show. Oh absolutely, for the month of February, Sherry Shepherd will

be here. We're gonna also have the businessman Raheem Shabaz who um works in the adult entertainment industry, as well as the lady herself, our very own flame at the recording artist Teresa Griffin will be one of our guests. So we're gonna bring guests into banter, hot topic, talk shit, and just have a good time. I feel like we were more prepared this season. We got guests just lined up. Say that again, who got guests? We did? Okay, So

one more time, did did y'all hear that producer? We did? Okay? I know this has been recorded, so here here that's your job. Player. But anyway, though, so we are going into season two. As you all know, we launched last week, but we've got a new structure, so we're gonna have our Black History moment, which we kind of just talked

about a little bit. We're gonna do some hot topics, which is kind of like the select drama piece that we kind of like, right, and then we'll always kind of have to add a little bit of politics and at the end, but we will say this, y'all gotta stay on task with what we're doing. So we move on for a subject flame Mats. Y'all love to go back and make comments about something we moved on from, don't do that because you're gonna ruin the structure of

the show. Actually, just put up a bunch of planes if you want to comment on, and we'll bring you in and have your comment while we're talking about it, because you know this has about about a forty second delay, right right, But just don't backtrack once we move on, because we gotta keep up with what we're doing. Hey, Marjorie is sorry our beauty look I got on, I got on my shirt and she's very she's very blinking today and I have on my my head that you

sent me. And I also want to give a huge shout out before we go any further to my current city, Los Angeles, Rams for whooping that ass yesterday. Baby. We're going to the Super bowl, we are. I want to see what Mary gonna wear at that. I'm more excited to see what snow bring and what Mary is going to wear. So I'm gonna have to record it because I'm gonna be on a plane. She's always traveling. You gonna be on a plane, so she can quit her other job and she could just work with me. Okay,

I said it all right. When that happens, say less, pay more, Say let's pay more. But anyway, so are we sliding into hot topics because I know you're intuing to be messy today, Go Rams, go Rams. I just want to say that again, go Rams. Tom Brady, I told you old as to retire last year when you was on top after them after they left the air of the balls and I need somebody come let the air on my balls. Let me just say that. But after the Air of the balls, you should have knew

you were skating thing. And I said that, But tom Brady got plenty of money. What was so impressive about tom Brady? It's tom Brady was picked like way down the list when he did get drafted as as he was way down the list, like I want to say, like a hundred I don't know what his drafting ago, but that's just going to show you that when when it's in you though, when the fire is in you, it don't matter what number you get picked. As long as you get picked, then you have to prove yourself.

Tom Brady has proven himself continuously for sure. I mean he's quite a talent. You know, he was an incredible quarterback. But just watching him in this last game, it looked like his arm was about to break. His age was starting to show. So yeah, I'm glad that he's finally retiring. He looked a little It wasn't even my dog this time. We got We got the dogs in the house, so it might be a little crazy. I'm sorry Timmy knocking over license ship um, but no, So I mean, actually

I'm happy for him. I think it's time for him to hang up the cleats and just enjoy retirement. Lady Steelers said he was one night in that I knew he was waiting. That was way down. I didn't see. I was young. I was really young. I think when uh, Tom Brady was drafted and I got a I'm not a football fan either, I'm really a basketball and Lakers fan. I've been going to games since Lakers were playing at the Forum. So good guy. He've been playing football since Jesus.

Part of the reason was this part of the rear c good guy. No, So I'm happy for him. I hope he enjoys retirement with his beautiful wife and kids. You know, despite him being a Trump sep order and all of his political views, he's done a lot for you know, his teammates. I will say, you know, I've never heard any of his teammates say anything bad about him. You know, he's taking dips in his salary so that that when there was more money to spend, you know,

with other people on the roster. So he's he seems to be a good dude despite his political views. Yeah. Yeah, with us in politics and life. Good God, they always say, don't bring up politics and religion at the dinner. It just turned it and make the meal just not be good. Thank you for letting us know that. She said that Tom Brady's mom purchases cakes from Claire's from miss claims Claire's crunch cakes, Claire's crunch cakes are amazing, and sam Mateo there from sam Mateo. Yeah, uh so are we

going in the hot topics. I don't asked you about three dam times through the hot topics where we started that. Are we gonna start with the Jana documentary? I know, let's talk about the pregnancy. First of all. I used to say pregnancy is the disease, but I gotta stop saying that because I want to have kids one day. I feel like that's bad. Karmen and I think he started having babies for really, You're gonna have like a bunch of right back to back, like, oh yeah, I

think it's gonna get good to you. And that's it. I just want to so I'm putting in the universe. But you know why you got three though, because you the pullout. The pullout wasn't strong. My pullout game is fired. I just I didn't want to pull out. I wanted to push in. It was we were making up. Look at all these excuses. But anyway, Rihanna is officially pregnant and I am very happy for her. I'm so happy for her. And then she looks beautiful pregnant and she's

pregnant A step rocky. But let me tell you something about Brihanna, because Rihanna got a big as heat and so does sproblem baby going. The baby gonna have a big gass heat. I feel like I can't talk about people's unborn children because I don't have kids yet, and I don't want my kids coming out looking up. Came out baby baba, But that baby gonna be balling. Because miss Rihanna is a billionaire. I don't know much about a Sep Rocky, but whatever he got, she wanted it,

you know. I just I'm excited to see all the fashion looks during her pregnancy. That's what I'm most excited about. Could you imagine what the baby gonna look like when she get all that that's very long and very high end, because you know how to put my kids in the threshop. Okay, you wined this week, but she's gonna win it next week because my kids were seven months apart so they could share. No, I think I'm excited for the looks while she's pregnant. I'm excited to see what the baby's

gonna look like. And then even like Nicki Minaj, like you know, sent her a very beautiful message and was just like you've basically conquered everything. Motherhood is just one thing. It's just a beautiful gift that she's excited for her to, you know, have the opportunity to motherhood would be her greatest joy. And then she'll come out with a new album because she will be a mama. We've ben all been waiting on the new album when she had to

have something to inspire her. I wonder what she's gonna name the baby, because you know somebody celebrities, Well, what what's the name? Named her baby? Apple? And then bananas and Blue Ivys and Red foest is cute though, Blue Ivy, that Blue Ivy the name is you Miss Blue Ivy didn't got you. She's really cute. She looks like she looks like her mama. She looks just like her mama. Because she came out. J put it on her, but it moved away because now she looked just like her mama.

So she's gonna beautiful and she I wonder what that feels like to be born wealthy? And I told you the story the first I was the first time Beyonce's mom did the World of Art Gallant in downtown l A. I went and it was quite a sight to see Blue Ivy try to outbid Tyler Perry on a painting oh, I saw that on a clip on the videos there and to see that in real time and she was just like no, I'm gonna keep bidding like I got money. And she was like nine at the time. Damn must

be nice. At one point, her dad, jay Z, was like, put the damn paddle down. Stop guy, Can you just call me back and let me go through Beyonce so I can be jay Z's daughter's on a training or something. Sh I don't care. You just want to be a part of the family. And I'm very happy for me and Nick Cannon. They's got another baby on the way and in her fiance Jessica do park right there. Let's go back to Nick before we get to the brat because the Brad ain't not nobody up. I don't know

how it happened, but she ain't do it. That's still their kids. They still their kids. But let me just be honest. You want to talk about the Semen first, Well, it took some steament, it took some seeming to get the breast. My frignt. It just wasn't the Brad Semen. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. I could be the woman all day but trust and believe. Ain't no baby's popping through me. They're coming through me, but they're not gonna pop out of me. Well, Nick, I

don't know what number of kids. This is seven because he lost remember that and that was seven, So I think this will be seven again. Nick, you think they had me come and work with you and work for you? My tubes tad show. I don't. That's a lot of kids and it's a new baby mama. That's the parts killing me because what baby mama? Is this three or four? It's like six? Yes? Six? He so he's got the twins Mariah, he got the other twins with the Abbey girl. Um,

I don't know all their names. I think this is like I think this is five. But all the baby mamas are pretty. Let me just say that at least that all his best interest and Nick. If that picture that Nick had put up a cuple about a month ago, it's the real deal. Nick had a penitentiary piece of steel. So no, hey, listen, it's it's a lot of kids. And did you see I'm just saying, oh my god, it's hard to turn it down, ladies, when it's in

the room like that. I mean it might look like this, Dad, when you wake it up and it's like this, you must speak into the microphone clearly play no, I mean And did you see Mariah Carey's interview with Entertainment tonight. Kevin Fraser asked her, you know, like, oh, for the holidays, are you gonna let the kids, you know, the step kids kind of get together? And Marid Carrey said, don't you have to like be married in order for them to be considered step So I don't you know her

shady self? I loved last well, I don't. I don't know if I want to call that shady Loren because honestly, yes, very honest because because me and you have a children together and we have a good relationship with our kids, that don't mean that I want to bring your children from somebody else around my children, because everybody don't raise their kids the same, and you don't want me to chest has your kids because if your kids come over here saying abies wa by my kids or about my

mama with your mama? Is this what could you imagine that in the house your daddy comes to because they mostly happen with daddy's and mostly have with dad or your daddy comes to get you this week. But now it's a whole bunch of different baby mamas. Which mama you belong to, Which mama you belong to? I just I know what I do. Come in Nick Canada about the fact is that he is responsible for his children. He takes care of his children. Because a lot of

guys running right here. I got twenty four kids, couldn't name of them, all don't know their birthdays and don't do nothing for him. Niken is a full long man that he takes responsibility for his children. But that's a lot of work to That's a lot of birthdays to remember. That's a lot of birthdays to remember, and that's a lot of baby mama drama flying and because I feel like they all to live in the same city, but they don't. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of work,

is what I'm saying. It's a lot of work. He got nickma running Nickelodeon for a long He got the financially, he got it. I don't know if he got the time, but he got time to knock them out because Nick is laying him down. Nick is fertile, Okay, So then the bratt and Jessica do part. First of all, let me tell you I'm in love with the brat Tad Tent she shot down with stor just like me. She's one of the greatest female rappers to me. Ever, wo, I didn't know you felt that. Well, oh, I love her.

I think that the Brat was a beast. She just was so damned ghetto that she forgot to take don't take the streets into the boardroom. She kept taking the streets into the ballroom with hitting people in the head with guns, and she crazy. But when she when she's masculine, she's turns me on. But when she girl up, she's absolutely beautiful. She is beautiful when they do a makeup and pair and make a feminine good God, she is beautiful. Yeah, she is gorgeous for sure. So to them, you know,

it's pregnancy is in the air and love. Well, don't don't say that. Sp Well, you're right, because my soldiers still marches. Well, pregnancy is in the air over there. Well, it's over there. My tubes just tad and hoods ain't ready to come on loose. So we're very correct about that. Child. I'm gonna live selfishly in my twenties, circle back when I'm yeah, it's a crucial time and and I wonder what it was, what it's like to have a baby in the midst of we are still in a damn pandemic. Yeah,

we really are. You know, you're getting a hospital and you you don't know what the nurse got and how they when they come and take your baby away. Don't take my baby away. Put it right here on this titty. Well that's what my mom just. She didn't let them take me out the room. That explains a lot, because this thing is amazing. He didn't let me. She did not let them people take me out the room. I stayed in there, so, you know. But on a you know, an unfortunate note, we do want to, you know, extend

our condolences to the former Miss USA. They commit suicide. Let me look it up and give her get your name correct, I don't say it wrong. And the story, God, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but here's my thing, and I'm just gonna say this publicly, ladies and gentlemen. She was beautiful, thirty years old. And depression is everywhere right now because of the pandemic and people can't get to where they want to be, or bills or what have you, whatever the case may be. But am I

supposed to share? Jazz pointed this out to me this morning. We were talking about it, and she was like flame. She was so beautiful, you know, do you think that she was pushed? She said, so much easier just to take appeal and just and she said, well she jumped out this number window was it was she on the nineteen four or something? Um? So her name was Chelsea Chris Chris, um, no, Chris Chris. Yes, she was thirty years old. Um. And it's supposedly it was the twenty

nine floor terrorists the twenty ninth floor. And so mind you if she was an had any vanity, and of course she had to have. You know, she loved her beauty. She was a beauty queen. She did pageants and stuff. So don't think that, oh, I just did a beauty paget because I wanted. They do beauty pagets because they feel beautiful. She felt beautiful. It just seems a little sketchy to me that she would want to die like that, because then her face could be mess up. Because you

don't know how you're gonna land in oh. I say, you see what I'm saying that her bandy would have been like, let me just take some peels in that pretty I don't know though. The depression is real and its honestly, and I mean, I have to say too on a personal note, I really appreciate everybody that's been sending me, you know, condolences and prayers and well wishes and everything, but I you're all flames of water on herself. She's fine. Um, I've experienced some emotion ends in the

last four months that I never thought I would. I would have to, you know what I mean. So you know I had to start going in therapy, so I have I have a therapist now, So how you like she's a black female. All of all of my therapists, doctors, O, B, G, Y N. Anybody that is health related to me is

a black female. Period. I don't play about that. But I'm just saying, even from a personal experience, going from being fine and in control of my emotions to going to not knowing how I'm going to feel the next day, you you just never know. And if I'm feeling, if I have my days where I feel the way that I feel. And then there's somebody who's really suffering from depression. I don't know what that's like, you know what I mean,

I don't know where that could possibly take you. And we don't know if she was in therapy, We don't know she what she was suffering from, you know. So I think everybody's mental health is just in different stages that can just kind of push you over the edge. I agree with that, But can I be very honest

and transparent with you right now? Of course, when when miss Marsha, my girl, your mom passed, I thought I was going to lose you, not die, no, but just going to just you know, flame, I can't do this. I need to go and do whatever I need to do. But then I thought about because I always talked about your mom, how the strength of who she was and

how she raised you, and I thought about it. I said, Oh, she prepared Lauren for life, not death for life, which means that you know that death is a part of life. So your mom has set you up. So then I thought about that. I was like, yeah, she just needs some heal and time. She's gonna be all right. Look, I said to myself, that bit is strongest here. She always cussing me out, But we appreciate you. I don't want to lose you. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

It's like we don't we just don't know the circumstances of things. And as as much as I felt like my mom prepared me for everything that I wanted to do, I feel like there's I'm always kind of like second guessing myself. Now, Yeah, you know what I mean, because she was my my sounding board. I talked to my mom every day, several times a day today. Well, I mean she she visits me my dreams and everything, and I still feel like I get to communicate with her,

But it's not the same thing. There's there's no there's not a day that goes by where something doesn't happen where I don't want to pick up the phone and call her, and I can't, you know what I mean. So saying all that to say, I know what I'm going through emotionally right now. I don't know what Chelsea Chris was going through to make her want to jumpy stories,

you know, to her death. So mental health is real, and I really hope that if you have opportunity to, you know, get into therapy or to talk to someone. I really hope that we do because and like you even said, you're tired of being in a pandemic. And it's not because you know of the money or whatever. It is, like you're fine, but you're just tired of not being able to do what you want to do,

you know. So there's there's always a little there's little things that can just kind of add up to take you, you know what I mean, to a space that you never thought you would be mentally. Yeah, it's I'm learning. Thank you for sharing that. But I told the Flamemaths when we were on you were going, I was like, I hope I don't lose my lorden, because you know that everybody. Death is different for everyone. And uh, this is so funked up, y'all, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

This is laughing learning ship. So somebody Dad or one of the queens that we knew in Chicago, Dad, this week, May she rest in peace, kish Leroy. And they kept saying, oh, she's in a better place. She's in a better place, my iggor that's what I say. How you know you've been there, your vacation there because that's the one way trip. You can't come back. So how do you know what she was? Is it green grasses and blue waters? What is it? Oh? I'm not just saying that's what the

preacher said. The preacher ain't been to the better place. When they go to the better place, they can't come back for the better place. Stop telling people, Oh, they ain't a better place. You ain't been there. You don't know, you don't know what hell here. And I said it jokingly, but I was with some love lounge lovely, so I ain't don't telling what I would have said it, But it was funny ship. It's okay. You were with the lord. Y'all had a special connection that was trying to bring

some humor to us. A dark situation and death and death do we want to say always that's a dark situation. You don't want to see people suffering, go through the drama. Sometimes you'd be like, oh my god, I just don't want to see nobody in pain. I already told my kids. If I'm an incapacity to cut the cord, pull the plug, or flip the switch, I don't care what you do. I want nobody wiping my ass. It smells terrible. First of all, let me just tell you that. But Flint,

you bathe today though, right, or you're clean today. I'm clean today. That she can put me on the spot. No, I it is the world is. You have to find solace in peace with you and find where your joy is. And it is not in somebody else. Yeah, it is not. And you keep looking forward and somebody else you ain't gonna never find it. That's very true. You have to find happiness within yourself before you can expect anything better within. I would feel like in you're surroundings, you have to

find happiness with yourself first. I wholeheardly agree for sure. Girl, What were you going? Who else pregnant? Somebody else is pregnant? Oh that's all I heard about. Okay, no more pregnancies. Let me talk about Janet now, I get so lone less. What did I First of all, I thought the documentary was nice, but it didn't tell me nothing that I did not know. But my issue. Yeah, but my issue with because I'm a Janet fan, I like me some Janet. My issue with Janet and the Jackson playing before y'all

attacked me. I still love my Jane now I'm just pointing out the obvious. Now, do y'all want us to hate Joe or love Joe? Because when Joe was alive, Joe was y'all painted Joe to be the biggest abusive nightmare monster. But remember remember now, y'all pointed out that y'all lived in a six hundred and seventy one square foot house, two bear rooms, with eleven people. Do you know how small six hundred and seventy one square feed is?

Eleven he had eleven mouths to feed him, including himself and Catherine, and they had nine kids in a two bed room, and all the boys slept in one bear room and a girl sleep in the other room, and none of them kids, and none of them kids in jail. They're all famous. So I love the fact that y'all are making Joe to be this martyr now. And he's wonderful.

He was great. But had Joe not been that Joe, that disciplinarian, or that person back there, y'all wouldn't be these Jackson so and I have no issue with that. I love that they're acknowledging that dead now, but I wouldn't He liked a little acknowledgment not to make it so ugly because when I was younger, when we heard those so I was really young, so I was very impressive on what I heard on the news, impressed back. So I hated Joe Jackson. I hated Joe Jackson because

of what y'all put out. But now what y'all put out, I'm like, Damn, Joe was a Janius. I'm a little different. And I think it's because no, no, no, I'm saying I I don't take it as they ever put out, you know, the notion that you know, everybody should hate Joe. And I think maybe because I grew up in the creative space, like with Debbie Allen for instance. I've told you the first time I was ever embarrassed, I was seven years old and she made me cry and embarrassed

me in front of room of two people. I would have yoked up. She mean, but that's just that's how I think old school creatives were. And I mean, I don't want to sound you know, rude when I say that, but I think that was just that era, is what I'm trying to say. You know what I mean. It was the disciplinarians. You know, you got hit, you know, you got checked and it was just a different type

of upbringing. So I think that they told the honest truth, but through media and perception of people that were watching were like, oh my god, this was abusive. And I think now in retrospect, now now that they all have kids and they've looked back on their careers and see how fortunate they were, they're kind of given their father their flowers. But I think at that point in time they were probably like, I hate this man because everything

has to be his way. He's so controlling and I have no freedom to do what I want to do. But now they're like, they're all fifty plus years old and they're like, he we wouldn't have the lives that we would have had now if it wasn't for him. I think it's an evolution of the relationship. I agree with. They didn't put out that they wanted to hate him, but we loved Michael and Janet and the Jackson five so much. They were people and they were protecting exactly,

so we didn't want anybody hurt them. So that's but and like you said, so the media put it out like that, but they didn't fix it. They didn't say, well, he's no, he's wonderful. They was. They never said he was wonderful. They just said he was a creative genius. Where y'all y'all doing it. Don't really look good for set any one. Mr Reby said, I got one hit. I'm gonna live off the rest of your money on. Yeah, I'm falling like us. They used to be. Mind, I

used to get naked. You don't want to see me. I look like in some centipede hands all over. But yeah, I think that's just what it is overall, you know what I mean. They've got reflections that they're doing now. And they loved their father. They just hated some of his methods, which with any kid who agrees with everything that their parents do, I don't know one. Now I'm living that ship. Yeah, you're right. So so you tell me about the end? So what were you telling about

the end of it? Because I didn't see that. I didn't watch the last so, oh you didn't watch Parson watch all of I watched it, but I was with Gods Part two. First of all, we found out Jermaine dupri cheated on Janet, which blew me. I was like Jermaine Duprie little self, you cheated on Janet Jackson. Really, First of all, Jermaine probably got the woo woo woo woo woo because from the mother, husbands and boyfriend she had, Jermaine was the most manly of all that group. Let

me just say what I got to say. Jermaine was the thug zilla with it so well, she said, Jermaine was was great. He was the only one that really wasn't on drugs. He wasn't doing drugs. He had a good head on his shoulder, He was up and coming. He had some good heat. Oh are you good head? Not something head on his shoulders. There wasn't any of the other problems that she had in her previous marriages to like Renee and James was a motherfucker and Renee

was another creative genius. She was saying. They had a spark of you know, they ignited a lot of creativity within each other. But Jermaine was this too, and he said, you know, Dad and Janet got me more women, and I just didn't know how to act. It's basically what happened. Yeah, Because you know that somebody wants you to somebody else got you. The earliest person in the world. But if they see you with somebody, what what he got? Why she with him? When he and they were like, well,

what's the hype about? So let me go find out. And you know what, what is my adage love lounge? I'll tell you all the time. A smart man with a hard one and a dumbass man with a hard same target. If you don't believe me, Jermaine did preacheated on Janet, Bill Gates cheat on his wife and he got more money than God. Okay, I say what I see Jeff Bezos one Annie and things still doing overall the I love the documentary. Um, I would love to, you know, work with Jannet Jackson one day too. I

got a picture with Janet. Oh well, I'm gonna have to post it one day back find um. But yeah, I think the documentary was phenomenal and I think she finally got to tell her story the way that she wanted to, which I think was great. You know, there was a lot of insight to a lot of the pain and the hurt that she had throughout the years and just kind of why how she navigated it and why she did some of the things that she did. Um, you know, she asked people to forgive Justin timber Lake

for the whole Super Bowl situation. She said, you know, it wasn't his fault. It was a mistake and they're good friends to this day. And then you can show titties all day and anybody gonna say that the hype of this country is correct. I'll tell y'all what. Y'all better registered to vote, because I'm telling you I'm about to make not even two two two, and I already started off with the shebang bang, she snatching up left and right. I'm just hoping it's a two. I don't

want to make that list. They're taking it by Oh you know who I want to hear from, Come on with Oh, we don't have any hold on I g updated so we can do this a lot easier. Now. I want to hear what t t Jan thinks about the Jena Jackson, the real t t Jan Hyjet Hello, Hello, Hello, Sorry, I had to pick up my dog. I was like, where did Lauren go? Child? Skuy is in here? Wine and that she's not up here. The little boogiself. She's sitting on my lap. Now you'll see you'll see it

in the video anyway, Hi, t G. Jen. How are you all this way? Talk to us, Jen? Tell us something good? Yeah? What did you think about the Jane jack Stock? I thought the documentary was wonderful. I thought it was nice to hear her life in her own words. Um. And it wasn't like it was supposed to convince everybody because when um, she said that she told um justin not to make a statement after the Super Bowl, you

could see her brother rolling his eyes. Was wrong, you know what I mean, because that is his you know what I mean? And they had to deal with the page. So I just thought it was good. Um. And you know what, Jermaine had to strike when the urns were hot, but maybe he didn't because he had he was with Aaliyah, you know, so that was a poor excuse, you know what I mean to you know, all these women want to give themselves to you, because if he's been nothing else,

he's been a true business person. You're talking about Jermaine Jackson. No, no, no, I'm talking about Jamaine. Okay, when he was like, well, you know what, so many women were offering themselves to me because I was jet But he had been with Aaliyah. You ain't know janet'n't read that an't she was a beautiful woman. It's not based on talent. She was hot. Everybody was with Aliga because of the visual she gave.

So what no, you know, he was being offered up what he had been offered up in the past, and he probably told Aaliyah a lot of things about enhancing Z but the fact still remains. You know, he was just being amazing. And there it is. There, it is, Jane, And I'm saying, I'm telling you something. It's hard to it's hard to resist. And this is the man to me. Sometimes you be in love and you and you think about what I want to mess up with my wife Jama.

But you be in a precarious situation. You'll be out of town, you'll be on the broad, you know, and it's there and you're feeling some kind of way and the phone sex or the FaceTime sex just don't cut the muster you. I need to feel something now, Hi, Jesse, Hi, Jesse. Hello, I didn't realize that I was on. Apparently you can't send a request and I pay attention now, Jesse, come on, we never know we're gonna bring you in very unprofessionally

very very unprofessional. I thought we were just going to do the T T jan moment for a while. So we want a handsome man and a beautiful woman, is it? Okay? Look, it's a handsome man and a beautiful woman at the top, so we want to hand them everywhere, you know, just what? Oh do? Come on, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. But what did you think of the Janet Jackson A documentary?

I loved it, as I have to thank they for allowing me to watch the entire thing because, uh, we watched you know, there were four separate episodes, right, it was they combined two episodes into one, so there was there was two segments basically, yeah, okay, all right, So so we watched the first one together and then by the second one, Bay was doing other things. But afterwards he had plenty to say because we had a discussion about it, and it was really interesting to hear her

perspective on it. I'm I'm with flame, and I'm I'm with the general consensus of it's a good thing that she did it. People were asking, why is she doing it now? Who cares? Yeah, because she wanted to. She was ready to tell her stories and another thing that I thought was interesting, And we need to remember this when you do the right thing, or when you haven't done wrong, and you just keep to yourself and you don't crap on other people. Because super Bold is asking

her again, I did see that. Yeah, super Bowl? Why? Why? What? What do I have to why? Yeah, it's like, what does she have to gain from that? And I agree, honestly, once you do the super Bowl, it's like, been there, done that. She got incredible backlash for it. Why would I come back? Right? Who wants to do all that preparation for three minutes or two minutes? And Jane's show is nothing small, you know, it's it's a lot of

work to go into it. And you know, between the FCC coming after her and her having the pain fines, I wouldn't put myself in that position again. And the only thing that's changed is society. Well yeah, well what she did was was probably gonna, you know, be breaking news in a positive light today considering you know, we got people like Megan the Stallion and Cardi b humping each other on the stage with the it's the irony, y'all, y'all reprimanded Janet Jackson for a mistake of Sewan one

of her breast on TV. But you rewarded Kim kardesh And and made her fucking damn the a billionaire. No, she is a billionaire billionaire. Her sex tape was wet because I watched that table and I couldn't get hard off of it at all. Let me just be honest, baby, it was dryss toast. I'm sorry. I'm telling you, I'm gonna tell you who turned me on even more. And this just sounds up. Well, I ain't gonna say that

you didn't open the door. Now you might as well say it, cause cause the little girl on the r. Kelly sex tape was she knew she had Maybe maybe we should. She was never at talking about the under age. I'm talking about the other girl. Just say, wait a minute, maybe we should, baby. And that was like having to blow up down it was it was she might be rich, but that was dead cat to me. I don't like the cat. I need scaring it, dog child to jumped up, nervous.

Let me let me just bring it all around like the same thing is still happening. The same thing is still happening for the same reasons. It's just more covert. It's like the racism that happens in northern California. It's so covert, it's not in your face like so um, Instagram is putting people of color in jail. Yeah, they're Yeah, they're putting white folks in jail because they're more white

folks on here than people of color. But isn't it interesting how you can see so many examples of melanin challenged people doing the same thing or more than we're put in jail for. Yeah, that's definitely the history of this country. And I love that you said that, considering black history starts tomorrow. Jesse, so very on point for sure. Thank you. You better keep her. And you know, I get the tails every time you mentioned yes, so when I was with Debbie allen me out, I know you

don't mean that. I don't know, because she is like and she is an icon. She is she is, yeah, and I honestly I forget that sometimes, you know, so because I talked to her on a regular basis. Oh who made a part of you? Yeah, she's She's definitely a key reason to why I am the way that I am. My mom wholeheartedly, but she's taught me an incredible amount that I will forever be indebted to her for.

So let me let me just say from your h I also want to say that even as as the LGBT community is concerned, like even those online, um, those online will call them dating apps like Grinder and yeah, so they have things that you are and aren't supposed be able to do right, but for some reason they seem to call the people of color on them. And I can say back in my single days, I would not have nudes ever, but I did have uh, low rise jeans with no underwear on. You were showing the

v cut, you were showing off that. Yeah, but that was too much because of my skin tone. Really yes, like they would say we can't approve this this photo. I didn't know that, and but you'd see white folks with with that all the time. And more well, here's the lick, Jesse. If we think it's bad, now, let them put that food back in office. And when I

tell you that the nightmare of this country. I'm wherever Janity is in London, move over here for because I'm moving to the next flat because I can't take it going to Europe time on my way, I'm telling you, I can't take it. The racism is unbelievable. And then for him to make such a bold statement, not that he has not made bold statements before, and say that if he wins, he was going to pardon all the insurrections. That is to me, that is just saying let's do more.

Let's do more, cause it's also guaranteed that he's going to get back in if he gets nominated. He is saying he's going to do more because he's saying if they go on with this investigation and bring charges against him, that there's going to even be greater insurrection. He said that I would be so surprised if he gets reelected. Would they not me? Because I think that the Republican

Party is not Excuse me, I'm choking, don't sorry for anyway. Anyway, Um, I would be really surprised if the Republican Party rallies around Trump like they did before. I would see them doing that for like Rhonda Santis. That's why I'm more so expecting not Trump, because he's young, he's charismatic, he actually knows the law, and he can manipulate, you know, the government. I feel like more in a charismatic way rather than Trump could. It wouldn't be so blatantly in

your face, you know what I mean, so exactly. That's why I think he's more of a loaded gun than Trump could ever be just as dangerous as over you yeahous, because honestly, that's the one thing about Trump that I did appreciate is he brought out all of the closet a racist. Like when I walked down the street, I knew when I was encountering a racist, you know, versus what was happening before. It was very behind closed doors. I was even working in Atlanta, and you know, I

had a co worker who I thought was great. She always talked about how she loved black people. And one day she goes, oh, yeah, I voted for Trump. And I was like, oh, oh, so that was happening a lot, you know what I mean. Now, it was very I'm a racist, what you're gonna do about it? And and I've lived in California and I went to I went to college in northern California, and it is extremely racist.

The extremely like and I'm talking like Northern California is extremely racist, but southern California, it's really built into the system. I was gonna say if you go to Orange County out here, you got your go to Newport Beach, go to Huntington's Beach, you don't do that. But but I took my white girlfriend with me. See, every black person needs one white friend for for face validation only because

hear me. And I know this sounds fucked up to say in two but even when we rented this house, I brought the same white girl with me because when white folks, you can say what y'all want you about me. When white folks here a person of color with a white freend for something about that, let's down whatever it is that they have to say. Oh you must be okay,

you got a white freend. I know that sounds racist and fund up, but if you're if you ain't gonna use your right privilege, I'm going to take advantage of it. And I here's the thing. We all get it, whether you want to admit it or not. Even as black folks. We get it because we've been trained to think the same way. That's why it doesn't matter if it's a

black coup or white cup or Ansian cup. The cup is going to if you see a black person running down the street, as opposed to a white person running down the street both fully closed in jeans and a T shirt. One you might think is running to something and one you think is running away from something something, And that is the true. And that's because of the way that we've been suddenly trained in this country. And black folks are just as guilty as that. That's what

we said. Yeah, black folks are just as guilty. And in fact, I see it more more prevalent with black folks now because when you walk in the store and you started taking out your credentials to buy or whatever. But I'm saying, like Flame was and brought her vehicle when they knew she was bankable, then they was ready

to kiss her. But you know what I mean, it's so like, you know, but black folks, I think, you know, well, I gotta have a couple of white people here, you know, uh, because then they started crossing over, they started treating them. You know. The I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying that blame you. You may have been saying, you know, you may not agree with me, but I did blah blah

blah blah. Know everyone, whether they agree with you, is not the case they understand that because we as black folks judge other black folks in general differently than we judge white folks. I would agree with that. I would agree with that, but on the flip side, and I have no problem saying this publicly though when I'm out, I don't. I don't think that I do this. I don't think. I'm more concerned when I see, you know, somebody looks like me that may be up to no good.

I'm so nervous, regardless of who it is. If you look sketchy to me, you sketchy, you know. But the one thing that I do do that I don't know if I really should say this publicly, but I'm going to anyway, is when it comes to homeless people. Though I only give money to black people that are homeless. Is that rude? I know? I don't know if that's funny.

I never thought about that. I realized that. I lized that one day and I was like, oh, when I see somebody that maybe white on the side, I'm like, Oh, that's so sad. But like when I see, you know, somebody that is black, I'm like, oh, do I have any money in my wallet? Do you smell the racism from no is that racist? I didn't realize I did it subconsciously. So one day I was like, oh, I'm not going to say that it's racist, but subconsciously it's

like I'm helping us because nobody else helps us. Yeah. I have a little antecdote. This was my first time being in New York. It was I can't remember what year it was. It was the early nineties. I was here with my girlfriend and uh, we had had a fight. She was she was staying here because she was a muddel she. I had left the house in the middle of the night and I went to and I was on a subway station. There was this homeless woman who used to sing amazingly old woman, and I started singing

with her. At the end, a bunch of people gave a lot of money, and I was flawed at the fact that this homeless woman who I had seen on the subways before, handed me money and told me, yeah, it's cold outside. Don't go into the train station at this stop because the police are over here. Go to

such and such a train stuff. You can get into that one M see we look out for you know, you know, yes, it's plenty enough white people pays some bad black people just because we wear our hair natural now, so I wouldn't worry about that, Lauren, You know what I mean, if so many other things that we have to catch because you're still helping somebody. True, yeah, I always want to help the less fortunate. I just never

realized I did it until day. It happened back to back and I said, oh, I didn't know I did that. But my sister asked me yesterday, she said, do you still pay ties in offering? I said, absolutely not. I said, I give money to homeless people all the time. If that ain't my tigs in office, and I don't know what he is. And I give money to everybody. If you look real bad or whatever, especially if you polite,

I give you out. Baby, I get five teens or twenty dollar b or sometimes you don't get that twenty that office. So don't get exciting. Ship you gave me. You gave me a little something something. Are you saying I look bad? Wait a minute, we're not going to talk about that on laugh. But there was money that went money that I gave you. Play I want to shut out. Listen, Lauren bought me a Christmas gift to Christmases ago and that just brought it to her today.

I'm opening it for y'all. What is it called? U? Yeah, it's a it's a massage you know. Flames. Kids be stressing her out, So I brought her this like nice massage gun. Two years of go. It's been sitting in my house and today I finally remembered to bring it. And you got different little heads and it got a big old head on it. Look like it's got a big old head thinking that he Now, where am I supposed to put this? Where do you put this? Don't

ask me? But yeah, she's got a whole bunch of Look, she's got different types of heads that she can put on it, depending on depending on what areas she needs to attack. Nick cannon, paging cannon. It's great. I have one. I got my dad one for Christmas. If you if you don't know about massage guns, y'all get one. It helps the relaction. Everything else was easy. Wore my ass out yesterday, God that I needed yesterday. But thank you video to thank you God, because we was arguing on laugh.

I ain't even know we was on laugh. Her crazy shoe flame company didn't even say good morning. She was like, please take down that video. I was like, what happened? I just want to say thank you, um uh ship, what's your name? Jane? And thank you Jesse for joining us being part of the conversation. I like. I like the new conversation that we are having with season two of laughing. I'm over just the I told you the politics was killing me. It was draining, it was sucking

the life out of me. Yeah. I think this is more fun though. It's like it's a little bit of both. Yeah, it's a priest flowing conversation and nobody is trying to fix the world. It's just flowing. I like it. I come here for you too. I don't know. Oh, I'm only ready to end the lab because I got this Gunhead did something funny, So I'm just reading Laura has Laura has a meeting, so we have to end the lab. But Hi, Bobby Clifford, how that gun t t J?

And I'm clutching my pearls girl, good guy. Thank you, ladies, and jump if you have not gotten your tickets for Carolines on Broadway and Mark for which is um St Patrick's Day weekend Mark seventeen eighteen nineteen. I've spoken with the club since I did the Windy Williams show. The ticket sales are really going, so you need to get your tickets on get the called me time flame. I came, can you give me? It's my first time there too. I have no pool, no say So, nor no Cloud.

So I'm advitsing you all to get your tickets because I probably won't even answer my phone that weekend for real, because you don't get the calling me time. So I came, I can't get you. I'll call you on Wednesday and the show us over on Sunday. So but thank you guys for joining us, for laughing, learned. Thank god boy Kendall, Thank you can for being here doing our camera. Thank God. Very special guests today, Miss Skott Hiving Scott, can you say hi? Say thank you? Say hello? Look that bad today?

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