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more than the look. Okay, So thank you guys for joining us today here on laugh and learn. Where you at um l h. We appreciate you guys joining us. It has been a week for me. You all. I had a very bad scinus infection that turned into something else, and we've just been under siege over here in my house. But everybody is getting better, including myself. I know you've been missing me from social media, but I needed that
break because I needed to heal and get better. And sometimes that break is just what what is needed to get your mind right, because social media can be draining. Taking on everybody else's livelihood and responsibility can be a very, very draining and I didn't want to be drained. I wanted to work. I need my energy. I got stuff to do. Thank you guys for joining us. We appreciate you, we missed you, and uh hopefully I will be able to bring my partner in in a second. I'm well, Hello,
my baby, Hello my Lauren Hogan. My phone says buffering, Lord Jesus, I didn't drop my phone. Hold on, oh see iPhone, iPhone? No, I dropped it and got nothing to do with It's good because it's the iPhone. Let me let me just have my moment. Can I have my moment? Please? Lauren? Thank you very much. I try to come up off the iPhone and just join us. Oh my god, it looked like I'm gonna have to do a whole lot of things. I ain't want to do it a minute. Oh I miss you and I
have missed you. How are you? Um, I'm good. I just wanna you know, it's been a lot going on. UM, I just want to say thank you to everybody you know that reached out and sent so much you know, positive energy and condolences and um it's been a trump But I am a very private person, so I don't wanna talk about you know, what I've been going through on you know here that's something with laugh and learning score. But I just want to say that, UM, I really
truly appreciate every mother to reach out. I know I didn't get back to everybody else, was very overwhelmed, but thank you. I love you, guys, appreciate you. So yeah, well you know we were praying for you and we're glad you on the other side of Lauren Hogan. Okay, so outside of that, thank you for the next gig that's coming up on the on the thirties for HF. I appreciate that. And you got a big gig coming up on the first. What you've got coming up, I do.
I do. So we have a concert with Christina Aguilera and Jennifer Husband on December the Feet at the Form. So I have been really crazy busy trying to get everything together to that. But it's gonna be a great concert. It's free and it's sold oubt. So no, I don't have any more tickets less it is sold out. But yeah, that's my Lafe made the project. Then I'm going to go on vacase you for a little bit. You deserve it. Oh my god, do you deserve it. I think so too.
It's been a while. Yeah, I would tell you to take me with you, but don't take me on the vacation. Girl. I'm going to work. I've been off for a couple of weeks. I'm going to work. But I'm feeling better now. Vacation money, I'm I'm un plugging my laptop. It's not a real vacation. Don't don't be fooled. You know that. So you know me, I know your boss. He ain't he know he's not gonna play with you. So thank you flameous for joining us today. We're gonna cover a
couple of things. You know, a lot of things have interesting things have happened in the news. I would say this week, but I'm gonna say this this morning. Good God, So Lord, I want you to take the lead. I'm back, but I'm not at one hundred capacity, but I'm still here and I'm ready to laugh and talk a little smack and see what I can learn and teach. Well.
I mean, I know there's there's a lot of heavy stuff happening in the DA, so I think we can start lighting fun and then we can kind of get into some of the craziness is happening in the country. But I wanted to ask you. I realized you can talk about watch the American music for Boards last night, you know what long I started off watching the red carpet event and the set up, and I had took an ambient and yeah, and then Cardi B was watching me.
She was making money moves while I was sleeping. I did see some of the costume changes because that's what I really wanted to watch. I wanted to see how the stylists had put her together. I love the way they put Cardi B together. So some of the stuff I like. But let me just say this personally, and I'm not this is no hate ration or any of that. You know how sometimes you can try. It's so hard
to kill that you overthink it. I think she overshotted with a couple of those outfits, but she was still fun. She looked a little nervous, but she said, yeah, I thought someone was just a little over the top, just a little Yeah, that's how she is. Would you expect anything else from Cardi B Well, absolutely not. I want to some it was. I think it was some of the head pieces. It wasn't the clothes. I think it was like, okay, maybe two hit pieces. But then after
that I was like, okay, enough enough. But she looked incredible. They had so painted and lovely and I didn't get a chance to see anything, but I thought the at the clips of the BTS, boy, I like those Asian boys, those like I couldn't under I probably wouldn't understand one word they said to me. But those are some cula Asian boys, you know. I've got to tell you. They performed, um I forgot was the band that they performed with.
But it wasn't like I just maybe because I'm just not like I'm an old soul and hard, you know what I mean? And I like really value artists creativity and you know how songs are constructed them Bill, I was very underwhelmed by them. I was like, you know, they didn't really do it for me. But again I'm not their age demos, so it is what it is. Who did you? Did you enjoy j Lo? Um? I kind of skipped over her performance. I will say j
Lo's wasts. It's great, you know what I mean. I feel like at the beginning of her career, you know, people were talking about how she could sing. She won't can sing? She really can. People need to come up off her sing. Jelo getting her paper, Um, he's great. She she actually performed at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She did a t in a turn of tribute was introduced to her, but I thought that she was phenomenal. And then came Brown performed at uh oh
Boys School, your son's school that he's currently at. Uh huh. Yeah. It was the American Music Awards this year. To me, the demographics were very young. It was very it was very for a very young audience. Horn, it was a very young audience. The demographic, like you said, it was, the entire show was a young show. To me, does that make me old? Or is that making me old because they were young? It no comment, no, no, no, I don't think it was that at all. I don't
think it has to do with age. I just think it has to do with like what you like, because I didn't like. I said, BCS didn't do it for me, so but those kids in the audience were going crazy for them. So I don't know. Maybe it's just different appreciations for music. I don't know. People love those uh those Asian boys people. Baby, my daughters go crazy when they see them, like Asian boys. I'm like, well, what they're talking about, I don't know. I'm like, okay, they're
just pretty to look at. I'm like, oh, well, what they're thinking about, I don't know. They're just pretty to look at. There is a privilege to being pretty. I will say, uh yeah, no, but I will say that New Kids on the Block and New Edition performed together. That was something I was not expecting. Oh and Bobby Brown.
They brought Bobby Brown. Oh, but Out on the Block. Yeah. Well, and he said, well, you know, he had some bos because you know, Bobby's just tired, so he had some breaks so he was able to do the whole show. Mm hmmm, yeah. My my favorite American Music Awards is probably Dana Ross hosting in eighty one or eighty two or something like that, when she changed every commercial Cardie was cute with the looks, but Diana Ross changed every
commercial status of a true diva. Of course, of course, but of course your preferences, Diana Ross, that's a little bite. Knock it off, knock it off, and knock it off. Lauren Hogan, you know that's my deal. And that left. Let let me have what I have. Yeah, it was good, but um onto affertic. We're not gonna stay on long because I am not at one percent capacity with my voice, so I don't want to put too much strain on
it right now. But uh, I want to thank everybody, just like Lauren, for the well wishes because I was down. I had a sinus infection that turned to something else. And thank you guys for being patient and just waiting for me to come back. I needed the time. I actually needed the time away from so your media. I didn't realize how impactful social media is on your on your mental status. It's so draining that you take on everybody else's everything. I take on everybody's everything and get
passionate about it. Sometimes, even though I try to do it jokingly, I didn't realize how much detriment it was doing to me. But I'm back now and we're gonna talk about what is happening in this America, this America. Are we going there or do you want to start off? Well, let's stign off with Friday. I taped for CNN, so I was back working Friday, and we covered a hodge podge of topics, including politics and music and you know,
what's happening in the world. And of course we touched on the LGBT stuff and all of that come ins and what I what movies I was watching. It was a really, really great interview. It lasted for about an hour and twenty minutes. I'm excited for it. Got for to drop because Lord or no before I do, because they email her and uh, I'm excited for you guys
to see it. I would I couldn't be Flame Monroe because I didn't have the energy to have my pop pop pop. But what it did made me do was sit still and speak clearly and get all get it all out. So I'm excited for you guys to see all the subjects that we covered. We did talk about the President Joe Biden. And my opinion on Joe Biden right now is stop blowing before you give I see
you ready. I am. I am very disappointed with Joe Biden right now because I've realized that Joe Biden, we as black people, we helped Joe Biden accomplish a dream that he wanted his whole life, which was to be the president of the United States. I'm just waiting for him to pay us back, which he did say that he was going to, but as of yet, he has not.
And it seems like everybody else is getting bills passed and laws are being made and things are happening, and Joe Biden will not be the president yea because of not not just because of age. He will not win again in this America. And you owe us, and I'm holding your fee to the fire for you to pay us. You owe us the Lynching Acts, right bills to be passed. You owe us more more faret treatment in this country. And if you have to push an executive order, I'm
tired of here. And he can't get past the center. He can't get past the Congress. Trump did whatever he wanted to do with the executive orders. If you have to put down the executive order, then that so be it, because you will not be the president again. So it's gonna be interesting to see how I have even flipped my my mind set on Yeah, you owe us pay us and this is not this has nothing to do with a crutch. You owe us pay us. Well, I've been you have you have come to the other side. Welcome,
We welcome you. I think the issues that I have and I think almost like put gonna be the nail in his often is his statement that he put out after the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict came down and him basically instead of understanding that there is a serious uh racism element within the justice system, instead of him recognizing that
considering all of the elements that were around Kyle Rittenhouse. Now, granted, he didn't necessarily shoot anybody that was black, but he also he intentionally went to a Black Lives Matter protests with a gun with the intent to kill. I don't care what the verdict is, that's the facts of the situation. And for Joe Biden to put out his statement and say the dairy system works and we need to respect the law. Is him exciting so much white privilege from
what his experiences being a white man in America. It was just it was highly insensitive and very disrespectful at the end of the day, and Kamala Harris came out and she actually made a statement that said, you know, this is just a testament that there's still more work than needs to be done. Absolutely agree with her, But the problem is, I think she's remained silent on so
many pertinent issues that's happening in America right now. Her opinion at this point in time is almost being um, it's not being respected by the American people on Moore and that's the problem. So I think she's going to have a situation of being guilty, guilty by association if she ever chuses to run for office and become the president. Uh, he wants to run for president of Guy's stay. So
that's my issue. And I agree with everything what you're saying, Flaim Joe Biden forgot the black people got him elected.
That's the problem with Yeah, he would not have one without us, and we came out in droves and he would and they have changed the the voting rights laws in so many different states now, So even if we wanted him to win again, we probably we are probably not even in position to to help him win because they've changed so many laws and he has done nothing about And I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed with President Joe Biden.
I am I need him to fix this. And on top of that is his ratings have gone down I think almost now. He's in the decline. And honestly, transparently, I got a little bit of issue with my sore war too because what they did around the government race in West Virginia. I don't agree with their strategy. There was a young black woman that was a candidate that the community wanted to elect. But once again, the Democratic Party went with strategy over listening to what the people
actually wanted. They lost that race, and that's what's gonna continue to happen. They're just the Republican Party doesn't listen to us. They have their own agenda and they're all on the same page. We know that that agenda is white supremacy. You know that Democrats don't listen to what people want, and that's that's because they don't listen to each other. Are they too busy in fighting, too busy,
too much in fighting. Yeah, so with with with him speaking on this whole the murderer ridden house, because I'm gonna say exactly what it is. He was a murderer and he is a murderer. I don't care what they didn't charge him with. He can't get away from the fact that he did kill two people and shout a third person. Um, you know, Lauren, I'm not the I'm not the on the I told you so, I told
you so. But when he did them fake crocodile tears and after they had already given him an acting class and woo, even though it's still not a tear with ship, part of me knew that he was going to get off. And watching who the judge was in this case, Rob Schroeder, who had been the judge and Kenosha Wisconsin in that corps room for so many years and in the position, and I watched him clearly during the trial lose his train of thought three times that I saw three times,
and while trying to reprimand the prosecutor publicly. This was the first time he had allowed cameras in his courtroom, so he had an audience to play for and I watched him lose his train of thought and then get frustrated with the prosecutor because he lost his train of thought. I knew then it was like he was the great uncle of this, of this killer. He was like the
he had a hand in this. So I don't know whether it's for book sales afterwards, if he's going to write a book, if he's going to retire off of this. I don't know what it was. But there were so many the that the deck was stacked already for ridden house to get off. In my opinion, this is my opinion, this is my this is our show. So I just I don't know. I I personally think that they need to go back into that judge's history of all the cases that he had because I just didn't think that
he was fair, that this is what I saw. Well, I'll say this, um, I don't think at least I'm not surprised. I'm not gonna speak for you know, the masses, but I was not surprised about this verdict. And I would say a couple of things there was the defense did a great job of like putting out different misperceptions and misinformation just about the case. In general. So I
feel like the public wasn't. They didn't really we didn't really have all the facts even down to it wasn't until you know, right before the verdict came down that I knew that Kyle Rittenhouse didn't take this, for instance, a R fifteen across state lines. There were just a lot of information. I feel like that was, you know, revolving around this case to start with. That was kind of gave a plus to the defense. In addition to that, the judge was it a murder trial. They were singing
in the courtroom and everything else. The judge made it very clear that he didn't support the crimes that were or the charges that were against Kyle Rittenhouse, because the one charge that was beyond with like beyond a doubt was that was he a minor with an a R fifteen. He dismissed that charge. That was the one charge if you were going to get him on anything, it was, it was going to be that charge. He dismissed it. So there was no way that you could just convict
Kyle beyond a reasonable doubt. He set it up so that way. It didn't work that way. And to your point about the judge, I'm sure his pockets are aligned with somebody. He might have stock in the prison system, he might have somebody paying for contributions to a possible campaign. There's always something happening behind the scenes when it comes to these white men that are in these lifetime appointments that have no business being there. I'm sure there's more
to the story. But is he going to be invested? Probably not. That is a clear reminder of what our candidate here on laughing, Alison Lewis would talk about voting at state and local government levels because it makes a difference. This man has been in this position for such a long time. It is you know Lauren and didn't look Lauren when with what happened with that casey outcome of that case, and even though cal Rittenhouse didn't kill anybody
that looks like us, Now, look what happened. A man came barreling through a damn parade in his vein yesterday, just driving through, just running over kids, and everybody was that retaliation And this was a brother come to find out that he was a black man. So do you think that that do you think that that trial of Rittenhouse getting not guilty on all accounts has opened up a Pandora's box of we can do what the hell we want to do and there will be no consequences
behind it. Well, what's different? How is that different than what's happened since America started? White people have been getting away with crimes since the beginning of time in this country. That's nothing different. Yeah, if you think about it from a perspective of if you compare Kyle Rittenhouse to a tray Von Martin, if we compare Kyle Rittenhouse to an Elijah McClane whose family also just want a fifteen million
dollars settlement, very happy for them. But if we compare Kyle Rittenhouse to all of these unarmed black boys that have been shot and killed. Hell, Dylan Rooks asked, is still alive and kicking. Yes, he might be in jail, but he hasn't been placed on death row. And he killed nine black people after they prayed with him for forty minutes. Thank you. I'm just saying the system is very clear on who it supports and who it doesn't care. And act were shocked and surprised about this verdict is
very baffling to me. I don't understand how anybody in their right minds had really think that power Writtenhouse is gonna get off based on what you saw with his murder trial. Kyle Riddenhouse got out because of his his skin color, the jewdge and his bad acting. Because that was some bad acting, even when he turned to look at the Jewish for approval to make sure am I doing it right? Because there was not one tier Long good. It was as bad as me auditioning for that. Listen
to me, child, You know that I was terrible. He was worse than me, but he got Look he got the pod. It's very It's it's scary, though, Long because I have a I have a son the same age as Rittenhouse, you know, And if the tables were turned and my black son was in the same position, I know for a fact that my even with money turned in with the same attorney, the oltcome would not have been the same. He would have First of all, your son would be under the jail. Honestly, he wouldn't have
made it probably to being arrested. They would have shot him. Yeah, I can, I honestly believe that. Yeah, that's exactly what have happened. So let's not I'm just saying, and I hate the way they tried to flip it. I hate the way they tried to flip it. Lorn to go into you know, why are they going to the past of the victims, you know, you want to go into the victims pad where he was this and he was a Kyle Riddenhouse didn't know who those people were when
he shot them. He didn't know their past, he didn't know their history. And this is why I say two in terms of the narratives that were built around this case for for public, like, you know, they painted this narrative that two of the people that uh, Kyle Riddenhouse killed were criminals, one of them was a sex offender. Come to find out that was not true. There were a lot of narratives that were utilized for this case that ended up being you know, pluses for the defense.
There were, and a lot of the truth didn't come out until after the verdicts were read for him. So the defense did their job in some ways. The media probably helped the defense. Little did they know, because it seems like the defense in a very strategic way, we're able to utilize, you know, the media to their advantage.
So it's the fact of life, you know. So I don't know if you want to bring in some other playmate, and of course I do you you know, I want to bring somebody in to talk with my low Hogan. You know they want to see they you know they want to see lo Vi. I'm gonna bring in sisters. I'm bringing in sister Soldier baby herself, Dawn, Hey Don, Hey am I Lauren? How are you just gonna glad you're back? Right? I'm glad you're back as well. I want to know and I didn't hear this, Lauren, you
might want to know. You might know what was Kyle rittenhouse um dismissed with our prejudice? Can they try him again? Or can I try him again? I don't think that they can try him again. I gotta look it up, but I'm pretty sure that they can't try him again. So which means that they well, of course, the prosecutor can appeal, right, they can appeal to decision. Can you know? I think that the prosecution has to bring up new charges or find new evidence if they wanted to charge
him with something else? Okay, do you think they can get him on a fair charge? From traveling state to state? What? What? What? Uh? Is? What a weapon? I don't think that the FEDS are going to or the d o J. I should say, that's family. That's because the president is going to go after him. Yeah, the president surely. You know, he didn't make a stance about it. You know he did he said the jury system works. Yeah, but remember this is the same president that we have that was very instrumental
on the nineties crime Ville. I'm just exactly exactly. So that's that's very true, very very true. I'm just saying, Lawrence Flame, no, no, no, you you're making me reevaluate who who I voted for doing and and and I know for a fact that the reason I was because Joe Biden was never my pick either. But I was so gung hole on Biden because I just didn't want any more Trump. And that's what it was. I allowed, I allowed that that bad pass to not to to to smoke screen who I was voting for for real,
because there was no other option. Mm hmm, well, I'll say that I too. I would never I'm not gonna say that I would go back and change my vote. I would never vote for Trump. Yeah, Biden was definitely the letter of the two evils. But Biden was also not my pick either. I wanted Elizabeth Warren to be president, but here we are, and I mean, it's unfortunate that we see this and I'm I'm so upset that there
is a black woman that's it's hatched to Joe Biden. Now, mind you, I know Pamala was also responsible for putting a lot of black folks in jail and California too, So let's you can call it spade to spade here and be honest. I'm sorry, Lauren, Is she black today or she a woman of color today? Call it? Call it she black when she when she needs the a k A s to step for the pearls in the chucks. Is she black today? Or she a woman of color? I'm just as well. I'll say this. I don't I
personally don't feel like we should split that hare. And I only say this because I look at somebody's actions, not what's said. And for the inauguration. Say what you want about her, and she has two flaws because her track been a little messed up, absolutely, but she still had the drum line from Howard Universities show up on national television and get their recognition at her inauguration when she was inducted to be the vice president. So her
actions are show me that she supports black excellence. So I'm not gonna take that away from her. Okay. So but I don't think I don't feel like here because Okay, I understand, and I'm but I'm a split because this is an opinion on that one because as a prosecutor. She I have lawyers in my family and they told me last week, Oh, he's good and off and I'm thinking, oh, no, it's not. They said, yes he is, and I was
like wow. You know, but like we've been saying all along, we have to start at the local level of voting. We need to start going to city council meetings and and county meetings to see what they're doing, how they're representing us. It's time for that good old boys system to be dead. See when you they start, they're raising them young. When somebody is a lawyer, he becomes the d a, then he becomes the judge. Then he puts his son and our daughter, our nephew. They're gonna have
their They land themselves up to be empowered. We don't. We don't do that, and that's why they can stay in power. And make the decisions against us. But we gotta start at the local level. Vote what bill is out. Well, I'll say this too, don I think that we if we're gonna look at that we have to do. I agree that we should all vote absolutely, but I'll just say this. White people have done a damn good job of making sure that we lack educational resources and lack
understanding of how government works. They've done a damn good job. And even if you look at something like generational wealth. I'm thinking of something like the Tulsa race riots that happened in night. There was a gentleman who had the largest, most successful hotel that would put Marryat's anything, and son was gonna we we knew what generational wealth. But white people have done such a great job of eracing history and changing narratives that us today don't know our history
and what we were capable of doing. We only think that we're able to do poverty level type of stuff now. And because we allowed them, because all them colors they got in the Senate and and and come in the House, they can if they wouldn't so worried about getting their pockets line, they can make a huge impact because we all know we're very strong in numbers. We are very strong in numbers. But because they're so, they don't want to train the next person to take their place. They
don't want to stick up for us. So why are you still there? You are useless as a kid on the ball hall, why are you still there? You're useless. Every one of them in Congress, anyone that's supposed to be representing us, You're useless because you're not doing anything. So that's why the white people can still get away with. They're getting away from and they've created an environment for us where we're crabs in the barrel, where we're always fighting each other. We have to get the root cause
is a thing. I feel like some people have the perspective of I'm just looking for more of an aerial view. If this is what's happening now, we gotta look at root causes of things in order for us to actually move forward. And I think that's sometimes the problem that we have as a community. We just don't know what happened in our history. But but but learn at what at what point do we stop? What? At what point do we need to get okay? Now? Look, we need to just stop this. At what point do we get
together because we can. This is the reason why they don't want us in nothing, because but to entertain them, you know, do do medio or work of stuff like like we used to do that our grandparents and great grandparents, you know, used to. That's why they want us that because they don't they know how smart we are and they can't get nothing them without us. So at what point when black people we're gonna we got to say,
look now a damn it, enough is enough? We need agree, you know, I just I'm just asking and you know, just you know, just asking when we are we're gonna stop? What are we gonna stop it? Well, honestly, that's a decision as a community that we need to make because like you said, we actually we can. But we unite and we become a force. We are one hell of a force to recogliate. But it kill we as a community can get on the same page. Nothing's gonna get done.
Because let's look at the whole Black Lives Matter movement. The Black Lives Man movement is a very positive movement, and in the midst of the Black Lives Matter movement, we had all this sad swiping with the trans lass movement in the Gator. But now they all did silence. We just saw an outcoming. I'm waiting for this amount Aubrey outcome. I'm waiting for the outcome of the amount Aubrey because every I don't know the outcome of this
one before. When I see the prosecutors doing a pretty good job, and I think that, I think that the Sun pretty much openly admitted to yeah, we we we funked up. The Sun kind of just like said it. Yeah, but that because what I heard and what we saw don't mean what they're going to see and here. So
you know, everybody is so quiet now. I hate the in fighting that we have as a Black community, but the divide and conqueror has always worked, and they're gonna keep like like Lawrence has splitting hairs, they keep dividing us what we can't get together on one accord. You know, we should be all together as black people right now, even though we have trans black people and gay black people and this kind of black people right now. The injustices against black people has nothing to do with any
of this sad, sad stuff. But they all quiet right now until it's something that they want to jump in on, too petty to piggyback off of. I think it's so unfortunate that a bill was signed last win their thirds to protect the Asians again and still nothing for us, and still nothing for us. Asians are model immigrants and they are the poster children of what potential immigrants and people in this country can be. We we know that that's not surprised on but no, no, I'm not. But
I'm the sarcasm. Okay, but you know how they just so caariously uh to slip that in last week while I'm making a big fan fair about it. They made a big fan fail about the infrastructure. And that's great, but what about who puts your ass in office? That's my point. So I agree with you and Lauren, you you may not agree with me on this one, Lauren, because when I say this, I think about you all the time. When we have to vote again in two and four, I feel that black people are gonna do
one or two things. We've probably a vote on the on the local estate level, but we're gonna either not vote for the fads or for those who can vote Republicans for those who can't. Because see I can't because my money don't work for me. I still gotta work for my money. So those those that they say money work for them, I don't know about that one doing. I don't know if I'm gonna switch my party right now. Okay, okay, I'm telling you black people gonna vote. I think why
I hope I wanted to say this. I hope that we all still go out and vote, because that's if we've learned anything over the almost what year maybe the Siden's been in office, is that white people don't want to still vote. They have created all these voting bills from Georgia to Texas trying to make it not vote because they know how important our vote is. So anybody that's talking about I'm gonna hold my vote in this next election, please don't do that. You know, we're gonna
vote in the in the local and the state. We'll vote in the local in the state is federal. They're not gonna vote vote down the ticket. And I this is what I agree happening, is that people are going to stop looking at it from a party perspective and people are just going to vote for who they want to vote for. Because I'm almost on the edge of
doing that myself. It's just saying who is the better candidate, who actually has my better Christian and stop looking at Okay, this is a Democrat versus a Republican, because that's what's gonna have to end the past. Well, I don't not personally, I don't never just hit one, but I go through each person, you know, and try to you know, I try to read on each person before I go and vote, to know who I'm voting for, even though they running unimposed.
Because if you need something from someone, something you know in the community, you know who to go to. But I don't know this is this is not looking good. This is not looking good. Well, I think that we're probably gonna lose a lot of the majorities. I've seen. I've seen so many different polls. You know, Nancy Pelosi took a poll and said that the Republicans are not doing well, you know, for the upcoming election in two and I've seen other polls that have said the complete opposite.
We're only gonna know once the actual Vulture tallies, then we get we get past the cheating scandal. Yeah, I mean, I'll just say this because I kind of want to circle back to to what Dahn was saying in terms of, you know, there's a lot of black people not getting on one accord and we're fighting each other. I just want us to sometimes take a moment and realize that there's been so much done in this country to make sure that we remain what society wants us to be
as a suppressed group of people. They have done a lot. Anytime we've gotten a leader that could really organize and rally people, Martin, Mr King, Malcolm x Um, Fred Hampton, anybody that's really been able to organize andalvanize Black people to become one afford and help. Fred Hampton was creating rainbow coalitions. What did the government do? They killed everybody. So I also want us to understand sometimes that as a people, I think we're really tired. We've been fighting
for a long time, a very very long time. So instead of us coming from a perspective of wanting to be little and talk badly about our community, please understand all the trauma that we've been through for a long time, and sometimes we may need a break. We may not be on one accoord, but at the end of the day, as long as we're always working towards something. I feel like it's a little bit of progress for us. But let's not be so quick to be little us, because
that's all I'm saying. What you said at last point, A lot of us is tired. I'll tire you. Yeah, the black community is tired. We've been fighting for a long time. It's through four hundred years. We approaching on five hundry for a long time. Yeah, yeah, and it's it's just unfortunate. It's just it's it's exhausting. It's exhausting. W P at his best, at his best. I need to get a shot. This is w P at his best.
What thank you ms Don for coming in and giving us to Then we're gonna bring Alison in so asking hit us with some knowledge. Thank you Don. Ye'll make sure you'll followed down at Texas Star forty two. Jesus, what we're gonna do, What we're gonna do, lower, what we're gonna do, what else gonna do? Uh? Hey, how
are you hello? Alison? Hello? Everybody? So I know we were talking about um the trial and uh white privilege at his best again, and I did uh hear about you know, black people really coming together and really making some moves, and to go back to the Kyle Rittenhouse case, it's the good boy system. The judge. The judge was the friend the defendant, the defense attorney was a friend. To prosecute that they were all friends. And what we need to do is black, we need to encourage our
children to become lawyers. And so therefore, once they become lawyers, they begin to run for these seats. Because that judge ran on a post four times, four times. That just don't have any opponent. And so we got to stop allowing these people to just stay in the sea, stay in the seat, and stay in these seats. We have to get up and run. No you may not win the first time. No you may not win, but at
least you're out there. At least you're putting your ideas out there and people know, hey, these people are on our tails. So we have to have an understanding of where are we going with this? And that's the issue with the Democrats. We don't know what we want. We don't know Harley, where we're going, and we don't like to listen to each other. We have to do that. We have to be leaders that listen and execute. That is what It's about listening and executing for the people
in which you're choosing to serve. Period. That's why I love my Nancy. You know, That's why I'm Team Nancy. Don't say loring, you bet not said we're listen and I agree with you. Nancy Pelosi has done a lot of things that I've given her some brownie points for it. But as the majority leader in the House, I'll be looking at her sideway sometimes. You brought it up. Why hasn't the anti lynching bill passed through the House yet? Why? I'm just saying, I get you love Nancy. I like
Nancy too. I think she's done a lot of things that have you know, have been great. Has even given me a chuckle when she ripped up some State of the Union speech. But if we if you're gonna hold Joe Biden accountable, play, you need to hold Pelosi account I'm so sorry, devastated. I'm just saying, if we're gonna hold people accountable, she has, she has a nice amount of it's probably gonna run out. She could have utilized that Howard to make real change. She got that Asian
bill passed. She sure. I'm just saying, I'm just saying give me, look, give me. We we I mean we we we we We were at a point where we could The thing about it, this and how it's gonna be looked at in two is this we had and we didn't. We had the power and we didn't use it. And that that is where a lot of people You're gonna have a lot of lots of this not's not gonna vote at all. And it's sad. It's sad that even even here that you know to even have to
say that. But that's so what's gonna be the reality? That is gonna be the reality because you're not gonna convince these young people anymore. I don't agree with that. I don't think it's young people. I think young people, especially this newer generation that's all about diversity and inclusion and identifying what you truly feel in your spirit. I think those millennials are gonna be the ones that vote. It's gonna be people more some in my age than
a graphic like the year old. Those are going to be So we're not young people are so we're not young people. I just said young people. I said my age demo. I just said we were I'm just saying those those kids that are seventeen, about to turn eighteen and between those eighteen one year old those are gonna be the folks that actually come out and vote. They were the biggest voting demographic in the last election. It was them if they beat the baby boomers, right, So
I don't think it's them. I think it's gonna be our age group that's like, nah, I don't really need to vote. I'm not worried about this. It's gonna be them, and that's the staff part. But I feel like birds have energy. I am I very much solf believe that. So I don't want to put that negativity out there. I hope that's not the case. I hope everybody go.
Let me ask you both, ladies a question with this, with the outcome of a mad Aubrey, if these men are convicted, I don't even know what the charges would actually be because that's Runswick, Georgia. Um do you think that, Um? If they get off, let me say this, If they do you think that there will be civil unrest in the street. Yeah. If a mad Verry is Travesic Michael Roddy, whatever his name is. If all three of those men are acquitted. It's gonna be hell, it's gonna be it's
gonna be a problem, it's gonna be a whole. But but do you think, but do you think that the judge shoulder and that that jewelry getting letting ridden house alf will make people afraid to protest in the streets because down they will feel like, oh, other people can come from the side and protest with their guns. Or do you think that they will go out and protest now with their own weapons as well. They they're going out with their own weapons real and won't give a dam.
And it's not gonna affect that they were protesting. Protests happen right after the verdict came down, when there were plenty of protests happening around the globe. So I don't think that's gonna affect it. What I think is going to be different now people are gonna feel like they
haven't right to bear arms. People donna start shooting. Yeah, and that that is And you know, Lowen, as much as I talked my gangs to talk, that's my fear because do you know how many innocent people will probably probably be killed because of that that philosophy there, I'm gonna shoot you back. I'm gonna shoot you as opposed that we want to do a pieceful protests. We want
to come out there and protests with no weapons. But now you can give a green light to say somebody can drive illegally under age from another state for two hours and come and say, oh, I'm protecting the business that you had no vested interest in. You say you were a damn junior e m T. You didn't even have a damn first aid kid, you had some golls. What were you gonna do? Blow they damn nose. I am mortified to think of what this country is headed to the way this country is headed, I'm gonna pack
my ship. Let me just say it, Well, since you already kind of opened the door, I guess we can kind of fully set by fully into this mod Arebury kid. I will just say this. I will say this the testimony that I've seen, and I will say that I think the prosecutor is doing a great job, especially with her name Linda, uh what is her name, and about the facts getting she basically got trapped Michael to admit
that he was just running that's all he's doing. I think that the level of overt racism that the defense is exuding in this particular case. It's sad to say that this baffling, but I am baffled this woman that one of the defense attorneys today talked about the mod Aubury's told being long and dirty and dirty yep, how dare you, and wanted to create a narrative about it. He's going into trespassing into one house. There's young you young women that live in houses, next thing, and keeping
go in there. Way to happ in the birth of a nation context, Okay, I think that if racism is the reason why these men are acquitted, I hate that they always use the narrative of black men. I hope so, Alison, from what I see from the outside looking at it looks like that it's said, I just have no faith in the judicial system right now. But I hate that they use that narrative that all black men want to
or they want to rape white women. They want to rape white But you don't need to rape for white woman. You just need to be a professional athlete. You don't need the rape, and white woman she's gonna give it to you. Ship m And just like they just had the case, they just had the case where the guy, the black athlete beat the white girl, beat the ass too, But then they ain't talking about the white athlete that beat the black girl. Or what about the yard sink
that raped someone and got off on it. Yeah they yeah, he just got off off seventeen year old. Well no, she was re raped like four of them, right, four girls? Yeah. I think he was eighteen and got it, got to quit it, he got probation. So I'm just saying, I I know there's only like, I think, like one black
person who is your I do. I will say that this judge in the mod are Very case, he's been doing a good job because the defense has tried to talk about Jesse Jackson being in the room and Al Sharpton in the defensive sgroom and we don't need any more black pastors. The judge has been very fair so far in terms of what is and isn't that all we really want? Lauren? Isn't that what we really want as black people in this kind We just wanted fair equality.
That isn't that all we've been fighting for for four hundred plus years? We have. I'm but I'm still on defense. I'm still on the on the banner for we have there are a lot of black attorneys out there. Listen, we can't be a lawyers forever. Listen, Let's let's move on up. Let's become the state attorney. Let's become the district attorney. Let's let's let's become the attorney general. Let's become the judge. Right, let's do it. You have to
put yourself out there in order. If we don't have people around the table understand our issues, we won't have solutions to these problems. And if you have a slew of black people as judges, then you have and you have them as prosecutors, and you have them as defense attorneys. Come on, some things, some things will change. And and
that is just my belief. You know, maybe you can cause people can call me crazy, but I just believe if you have a lot of us lauring that by our age that put our feet to the fire and start running for these positions and applying for these positions and getting in these positions, some things will change. I
agree with you, Alliston. I just think that it's unfortunate too, because even trying to get there, the deck is stacked against you, like playing with saying, because you know, how are we how are we these young you know, how are these young folks gonna pay for law school? They gotta take out all these loans they got. We're putting people in debt. It's just it's a process of we're just gonna have to really figure out how to help
us something we're gonna be able to do. Because even to get our people to these positions where they can really make these decisions in the you know, government and you know, in these lawyers places or spaces, it's gonna take a lot, you know, you know what it's gonna take. It who y'all, y'all gonna like me for this, but other people ain't we need It's it's black women. You know, you don't want to give this, You don't want to bow down and kiss the feet of these black women.
But black women, Stacey A. Rooms and so many others are the fucking backbone and the monster is that standing behind it and the giants that's making decisions, and you keep giving them a hard time, not because they're just black, but because they are women. That is so terrible about this country and the reason Stacy H. Stacy Abrams is not in Kamala Harris's position, it's not because she couldn't do the work or do the job even better. Is because of optics, and it's fucked up. You know, we
were so visual. She don't look like what, she don't look like a president? Well what does the president look like? Did Trump look like a president? Honestly? Well, I'll just uh, I agree with you on that front. Plane. Uh, we're gonna take it back black. As Machael Max said, black women are the most disrespective women in America. We know that, underappreciated and underappreciated. But you are right, Wes. We you know,
bring people together. We do. But again, if and this goes on to the crabs and the barrel thing, if we can't get some of our own black men to respect us, you don't expect white women and white men to respect us because they look with Hillary. Look even at Hillary Hillary. A lot of them didn't like Hillary because they didn't like Hillary, but Hillary was They looked at Hillary as she's a woman. Hillary was also very corrupt, though she got a lot of just unexpected karma back
on her. You know what I mean, But that's another conversation. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Hillary learned from a powerful black woman named Coretti Scott King ships better sidelines, stand by your man and shift the hell up. Black women still been getting Coverater was gangster. She ain't saying that she knew Martin was whoa papa was Rolling Stone. She just lay low and quiet. And you know, people follow superhand that I make that as a joke all the time,
but that's the truth. So many people take from black women. So many people take from black the knowledge and the tenacity of black women, but then don't acknowledge and respect them. I am team black woman, I always have been. Y'all
know that, and it bothers me. You know that we could be so much further along, even with black men at hearing and respecting black women when you're not in a position of power to do it, or you just don't want to do it, and there is a black woman that wants to do it, Acknowledge her, respect her, thank her, you know, but we don't. That's not what we're doing. That's not what we're doing. Yeah, well, thank you, Alison,
my darling. Y'all make sure y'all fother us Alison Lewis, and Alison Lewis is very knowledgeble She's a black, she's a black. His story and honey, she can teach you some things about your history that you don't know Nathan about. So I got to make the request because something in the comments earlier about why people keep bringing up a K. So please bring in t T Jan to close us out because we're almost that time. I just got to hear my cores thoughts real quick. Speaking of which she
comes in here today is my my conversary. I turned six today, So you've been at a KA for six years. Yes, I have good You don't look at day over five. You don't look at day over five. I don't even see it. I don't see where's J. Come in? Jan? Send me request because I don't see you. You You know, I'm not on my regular phone. I'm on my other phone. UM. Yeah, I'll just say this while we're waiting for TC Jan come on t J saying congratulations. I want to talk
to you. UM. I don't know where we're going from here. I think that this trial is going to um be almost like the and I know some people I'll just say this, I know from people have an issue with Shaun King and some of his rhetoric and whatever. But I do like uh he he he puts the truth out there in a lot of ways. I feel, but
I know some people have a problem with him. But he made a comparison today which makes a lot of sense, is that this case is almost um comparable to Emmett till And and in truth, it almost is the amount of every case. Yeah, when he said that, it really registered with me because if you think about it, edmet Tell was murdered by a group of white men. There was really no dispute. It is that these white men murdered this young black boy because simply of the way
that he looked. It's the same situation that's AMoD Aubrey case. They murdered this black boy because they didn't like the way that he looks. And there's really a discussion around or was it justifiable that they murdered him because of the cooks. That's what it comes down to. Him. Hey you congratulations, and I missed you as well. Um, I'll tell you you know, it's hard for me to get sold on. Yeah, I'm up with the people. But every chance we get, we find a way to goot a
black woman. Now, don't tell me you don't know that. Joe belongs to a lot of groups, but we never mentioned those groups. But every conversation about Karmela, we talk about her being an a he Hey, learn your history. We are the first minority sorority. If you think I'm apologized by having the graves and the money, I will not. And if they call me to give some more money, I will cut it out. Cut it out, cut it out. It's an ugly look, cut it out. There are a
lot of Greek on this line. There are a lot of Malveris on this line. Why do we keep gutting out when it for our accomplishments. She did what she wanted to do. It ain't got nothing to do with her professional Now, she made some smart moves because her lines this insulated her. It plush. But don't get mad, get happy she but look, go to church, be a part of the church group, go to the same book club,
be a proper be proud of your book club. But cut it out with gunning form the organizations we belonged to. You ain't saying nothing about Joe. Then we hold her to how you standard? Well, you know, because you need to go back to the cave. She can never believe a case we're always here for her. Well we agree with she says or not. I'm happy to have over three hundred thousand sore roars. Did you hear me? Sometimes I even extend myself because it's a sore grow in
front of me. She don't know, I'm a sorrow. I see it all her part, and I said, going over. But what I have word is before I just go around saying yeah, I'm a a k A. I'm here to uplift any black wom space is a doubt that you ain't throwing hundre the but for what she pledshed in college, cut it out, and I just got to jump in here and say to thank you, T t Jan. I just think that it's unfortunate that to your point that when we were already disrespected, we've already adapted that enough.
But we are not allowed to have any flaws, and it mistakes we are held to such a higher standard, especially being black women in this country in crazy that we're always going to be held to a higher standard. It's it's unfortunate, but at the same time, on the flip side of that, it's what makes us the best. Yes, yes it does. And any of my line sisters are in distress. For instance, I just went through a tragedy. My line sisters rallied around me. They didn't send me
no flowers, they said, go decompressed. That a spot. We're gonna send you something that's actually like you feel better, you know what I mean. We rally around each other, We support each other, and that's the beauty of being black women from And if you don't want to play it, don't play it. There are other groups that will pull the best out of you. But quit knocking me for what I do. We're stop bringing up the fact that she's an a k A like it's a negative thing.
It's not. No, it isn't no it is And if you don't want to plash, that's perfectly fine too. I've gotten no people with that because of a black woman calls me. It says that she needs me, that I'm going to step into do what I can't. I didn't. I've never asked Allison if she was Greek. But I was there for Allison, not with lip service. And I didn't have to start every conversation. You know, I love my people. I got on the phone, I said, what can I do? I gotta I got a black outline
in my office. I can make phone calls. That's what I'm about. What's y'all put your action on your mouth face. That's what I said. Period. Who Yeah. So that's it for me for the rest. Thanksgiving for everybody, continue prayers. You know that that that's my pap. That that's that I'm on. You know, I'm on one to day. Leave my sorority alongue. But now I free. I knew we need to close out with you because I thought you in the comments. I said, well, this is gonna be
a great way to goose the show. I can't see. I can't see none of the comments. It keeps I can't. I can't. Don't worry about it. You know it keeps happening. You know what, she need to go back and be with the case. This woman is a professional woman. Do you not believe that she belongs to a lot of professional groups along her profession? Why are you going back
to college? She has those sisters? Well, and that's too also my point tc J. And when I said I don't like splitting that hair a woman of color versus her being black for that, I don't Because they say time to show support for the a k As for her alma mater being a historical black college. It's not
number one like Spellman, but still right. She made sure that those examples of black excellence were allowed and proud on national television for everybody, for everyone, and it was a learning moment for everyone that it's really nothing about us past our community. It was a moment to educate yourself, not to be a found with it. Thank you, Thank you, Jane,
thank you so much for for input. Appreciate you. Uh Jane just said the words, honey, she excuse me, she uh she um what we're learning or teaching or something. I don't know what she just said. I started coughing ahead of damn fit. But Lauren, I love when you ladies get the you sorority women, because I'm not a sorority sister. I didn't even go to college. I was. I went to the dorm, but I wasn't learn and
I was teaching that was in my youth. Um. I love to see that the woman's empowerment because to me, if more young sisters and brothers actually saw women come together, Black women come together, strong, standing together, not all the housewives of the shows and the Bees and this and that, and the drinking wine and who got to design the shoes in the biggest house, but actually lifting each other. I think that's what will help us grow as a society.
And people don't see that because that's not what society wants to see. Apparently, according to the media, they want to see the negativity. So when we get a chance to push out to positivity. To me, I'm sitting here quietly listening and smiling on the inside because I'm like, yes, talk about it, and G T T J. And is my age and you are twenty five, and I see this sister love. That has to do with a mutual respect, because yet we are part of the same society. But
we see each other. I see my my elder sister, and I see my baby's sister, and we're learning and teaching each other. That is what it's about. But I'm sorry, maybe maybe I'm too old, Maybe I'm too old. No, it's not. I'll just say this and I'm not doing
it to offend anybody. But if we look at examples and we just talk about people not caring about black women, we've already said, you know, black women as disrespected, but we have examples to back up these statements, if you look at in the media when Gabby Petito went missing, Oh, it was national coverage, national freaking newes is white woman has gone missing, she's young. This is crazy even in
the trans community. I feel like, you know, some of you know, the trans commune is really getting some recognition right now with you know, everything that's happening. But the trans community is talking about how there are forty seven I think it's forty nine maybe now, how a trans women of color has been murdered. Well, let's look at it from this angle. In the past two years, there's over nineties six thousand young black women and girls that
have gone missing. Ain't no national news stories about that because nobody cares. They know that is that? Is it an initial people who truly just don't care anymore. There's no comparison to the trauma, grief, and just lack of empathy that goes towards the young black women in this country. So cut it out, knock at the hell off. We have opportunities to celebrate each other. Let us do that. Let's do it. Yeah, stop taking it a negative thing.
So I appreciate you, I missed you, I missed me, but I missed you being part of the show and we know, we knew what was going on. We um, we're here for you. Lord. I hope you felt all the love and the prayers and the and the pushes and everybody just you know there by your side. Um. It's such a it's just it's just life. It's like and it is life. And I love that you are equipped for life because of that woman. Because of that woman, A lot of people are not built and equipped because
their parents didn't equip them. So with with all that Miss Marshall was and who she is and was too so many different people, she equipped you. She she got you ready, which is so important for women to get their daughters, especially ready for life, because life is going to happen whether you wanted to or not, you know. And that same thing with fathers and sons. You have to equip your child to know that life is still going to happen. So we're glad to have you back.
I could not do this show without you. I've definitely missed you. My man was frazzled because of all I had going on as well. But I'm glad you're back and I'm glad we got a chance to see this, and um, I know you deal, lor P. I'll just say this publicly too. I had the best mother in the world. I want everybody to know. She was the best mother in the world. There was nobody that She gave me everything I could have ever asked for it more so, UM, yeah, she was the best one for sure.
Well I tell you this, I know that the great lady this in you is there and she's gonna be a SLB in a minute, because baby, she's gonna be a powerhouse. I'm glad she liked me, though. Let me just say y'all that again. I'm glad the Lord I Um, I just think that I don't know where the world is headed. The country is, and it's it's showing us. America is showing us. It's as so bad right now.
And I think people keep forgetting that, Yep, I might have been born black, I may have been born a Latino or whatever, but if I was born in America, I'm an American. We keep forgetting that we are Americans because we keep putting race and money in front of everything power and it's it's just detrimental. And I don't even know what's gonna happen for these young millennials or the children. I'm afraid for the children. But in my lifetime,
I don't see it changing in my lifetime. And I'm I'm past fifty, so I may not even have another fifty years. I don't see a change. And in fact, it looks like it's we're going backwards real fast, too, real fast. Uh. In the words that teach you, Jane, I'm just gonna ask everybody that's on this lap keep your head on the swivel, because you just don't know
what's gonna happen. From day to day. People are angry and embittered, and you know, you you go, You might be as simple it's going to put some gas in the gas station and something erupts. Pay attention to everything that's going on around you, because not only will they blame you for it, but you will. You will go to jail for it or lose your life for it, for something that somebody else did it. I'm exhausted, the man, the heat, the she, and the week. All three of
us tired. Good God, I'm tired of ship. But we thank you guys for joining us, because here at laugh alone, we couldn't do this show without you, because we can't do what Lauren on this stage what. We cannot get anybody to change your mind. We can only get you, guys, to use your mind. And in order to use your mind, you have to have one. We don't persuade you to think I think our way. We persuade, we persuade you to think your way. See that's the problem. We don't
need you to think like us. We need you to think like you. Hopefully it's logical, and hopefully it is common sense because a lot of us is missing common sense. Some of y'all dumb as a box of rocks. Let me just say the ship or commons sense. You know, they need to sell it. I need to buy it and sell it because a lot of people. But thank you guys for joining us her laugh and learn. We appreciate you, guys. We will see you all. We are all sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for
the outcome. Uh, not only the amount of are very trial, but just anything that's happening in life. I think we need to start sending emails to Joe Biden because Joe Biden needs to help had his feet needs to be held to the fire you all us, and you need to pay us because you will not be a two term president. Even if we came out in millions and millions and numbers more than we did. They already got
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