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That's because I'm gonna make up all. I'm looking like her and him right about there, y'all. I'm telling you I'm cold. That's why I got on my my onesie. Y'all. Know what I look like on the other side. Hell, I'm still battling this damn code. It's almost over though, Hello, welcome, Come on in, y'all. Okay, let me change glasses because I can't see not naithing, not nowthing and flame MAT's. I'm really depending on you all today because I am

not at one hundred. But um, I know my flame MAT's will pick up the slack since my co host can't be here today. Prayers for my co host Lauren Hogan on the loss of her beautiful mom, Miss Marsha, who was one of the who was a flame man and always gave her gave us her input and let us know how this and that. Hey, Frankie, So we appreciate Miss Marsha, and uh, prayers to my co host Lauren. But Kendall is here and I'm here, and y'all coming on there because we got some stuff to talk about.

You see, I ain't changed, as you see. I got on the same globe, but I put on some her because you know, I was trying to distract, Like down Donald Trump, I'm distracting. I'm distracting ship. So we're gonna have topics today. We're talking about a lot. So much has happened in a week. So much has happened in a week talking about the football players and um the Ritten House case. Hey, gossiping helpers, We're gonna talk about the mod Aubrey case. We're gonna cover a lot of bases.

And it's three football players in the news that we must talk about. One is Henry Rugs. The third which is the young man from the He was a Vegas Raider and two years old just signed a major contract with the Raiders. Out joy rads at top speed, crazy with a gunn the car. They found liquor on them and Chad hed hit this woman and kill her and her dog. And you know how white folks he is about their dogs, child, They're gonna be one bad about the damn dog than he is anything else. And she

was not even a white woman. She was an immigrant who was waiting to get her documentation to become a legalized citizen. But you know how white folks is about their dogs. Baby. They got car insurance, life insurance, burial insurance parties, and yeah, graduations, they do all that. And I'm saying it jokingly, but they are very overprotective about their dogs. Thank you. Guys, come on in, come on in. But you know what, we gotta talk about it, and

we gotta keep it moving. It is. It was very tragic, and the girlfriend was in the car with him. Thank god that him and her were both spared. But what was he spared? That was a traumatic experience. And this is a voting year and he's twenty two years old, and the Raiders dropped him the same night. What no, we're gonna work with you, and wo woo they dropped him the exact same night. They dropped him the same night. Terrible. Uh huh, Right, they told call and Colin Kaepernick up.

But here's the thing about that one. We're gonna talk about that, and then we're gonna bring up the other football players, Aaron Rodgers. Who what did he lie or was it a play on words? I'm asking y'all did he lie because he said I'm I'm he said I'm immunized. He didn't say vaccinated. He says I'm immunized. But then he tested positive and play and that was the only reason they found out because he tested positive and then they had to go into the records to see that

he wasn't vaccinated. And but Kyrie Irvin, who said, I ain't taking it to hell with you the league go to hell than everybody else. Y'all been handing him his ass. But the difference is this color and this color I said it was it a play on words. It's very scary. You like my hair? Okay, thank you? I want to put on some big hair. Uh so y'all can be distracted from my ones because y'all ain't get no titties

and nothing today. I'm co kinder, got hits. Whatever else I got on man Market, Mark said was to play on words. These people are are saviors, they are human, well they are. They're protesting here in California and everything because they they're fighting. You know, don't mandate nothing. Don't tell me what I need to put in my body. It is getting very scary and very out of hand, y'all. Uh huh katri sa he led, Oh I don't want

to think that, he led. The difference is that Aaron Rodgers pretending to get the jam, while Curry outright declined it, well, you know, and isn't that right? But that's what they The world is not coming to that. They baby, they want you to do what they want you to do. So come on in and talk about it with me, y'all because I told you flamous, I'm depending on y'all

today to come on with it. So before we get to the other stuff, let's stay with these football players, because we got to get to Travis Scott and all of young people who lost their laughs. Good God, babies, good good, good morning, get out, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good day, good something somewhere, because it's morning somewhere, it's evening somewhere, and it's afternoon somewhere. So to ask you your question, I don't think he lied. I no, no, no, no, no,

that wasn't it. They asked him had he had the vaccine and he said, I'm immunized. Now that's what I'm saying. Is that a play on words? Or I agree with Mark? Mark said, I agree. Look, I want to give him, um the benefit of the doubt, but um, they gave Carrie Urban a hard time because he was like, I

just don't want to take it. But I think the issue that is because Kyrie Irving is in New York and New York state is mandated, and just like here, our state mandated it, so it may not be that the NBA is mandating it, but the state is mandating. So I mean, it's a it's a hard it's a hard thing that we're dealing with right now. To be honest, it shouldn't it shouldn't have to be mandate. You should be able to do what you want, get what you want, and however you want to get it. But it's the

world that we're living in right now. Uh huh. You know, it's just I was just sitting here talking to Kendall about the whole thing, and I was like, they're down here protesting in California big time, that they don't want to do it, and I hope this does not cause a war in our country. I said, a war because some people want to and some people don't, and the fact that they're feeling feeling forced is probably the problem.

I don't like to be forced to do something, but like some of us, we had to do it because of our places of appointment, and um, you gotta support your family. Now, some people are able not to do it, and they're still sports your family. I don't. I don't like I think you're taking you're taking away my rights, cheat and we should always have a right to cheat. Well, you know what, let's get then out of me. What was that light one out? You know what, Cassie I I. Well,

let's get off of that. Let's get back to the twenty two year old football player. His name was Henry Ruggs Jr. I know Henry Ruggs the third because he was the third one two years old driving that luxury card at the signing a major deal with the UH with the Vegas Raiders and driving that card at a hundred and fifty six miles an hour and kill that woman at ADL. Now him and the girlfriend didn't die. I think he was spared because um, he's gonna he's

paying the price now just thinking about that. What he did? I mean you should? I mean, come on, well, here's the thing, and we talked about this on coffee time earlier this week. You you take these boys for rags to riches overnight. You don't surround them with a team to teach them how to end the money and how to handle that fame. Fame is poison. What you don't know. You think it's beautiful on one side, there's two sides to fame, and a lot of people ain't ready to

handle the other side. And he's twenty two. He young. They needed a team around him. And when they're making that much money and he is the bread winner for so many people, nobody was going to tell him no. Nobody was gonna tell him no. I know, but he still couldn't use some comments two years old and filthy. Rich. Ain't no common sense, Cancie, ain't no common sense. I'm rich. I can do what the funk I want to do. That's the common sense. Come on, Dawn, jump in here,

because you're making all these things. The girl you're doing all this on you got I was one of two. I was one of two with a nineteen eighty nine che You could me having that kind of money. I agree with everything you said. Is seeing they setting my children up for I'm telling you, and it's a voting you, Cansie. And he's twenty two years old, and the Raiders d wrapped him the same night. They didn't wait, they dropped him the same night. It's time, it's you know, it's see.

This is when the older football players that are retiring you need to come and talk to the younger ones. This is when they need to grab and said, look this is what the deal is. And if you don't, if you don't do what by the play by the rules, you don't do what you're supposed to do. If you don't handle your money the way you're supposed to be, Hanna live, you're gonna be broken. You're gonna be broken,

and you're gonna be a Haskan. Okay, you you you you can't get They do this to our kids because, like you said, they know they come from broken some of them come from broken homes. They have the bread one as other families. What they want to do is get their mother a house. All all black, young black boys, that's they dream. I want to buy my mama house. Most of the time the father is not in the picture.

If he is, he has moved on with another family. Okay, so you you got to train these young men that, look, you have your whole life ahead of you. But if you're gonna allow this money to ruin you, that's what exactly it's going to do. And look like I don't agree with that, just because of the climate that we're in. He he knew he was too drunk to hop in that car, and he could have just called an uber.

He could have called a lift. Somebody could have rolled him, but he trolled to hop in the car and drive under the extreme influence. Not just a little bit of influence, but he was under the extreme influence. And I believe that he was spared so that he it could teach less And it's sad that somebody had to path away because of it. But hold on, hold on that we should get drive in the car under this right. But okay, let's let's take look out of the picture. You were

twinty two. I was twenty two. What did you do that could have caused you to go to jail? I did the same thing, but I drew really slow. I had the music blasting and had the windows open, and I made it home. But when I shouldn't have did it, but I still didn't say. But you also were not a millionaire and had just gotten signed by Major. You were not a millionaire. He just got signed by a Major. Deal with the about Las Vegas Raiders, the different you,

you can't compare. It's like comparing apples to oranges. There is no comparison, Cassie, because which is why I love the show Survivor's Remorse so much, because to Sheina Arnold who played they went from rags to riches. But because she had such a strong bass as the woman and the monarchy in that family, she trained her son not to make mistakes. And he made mistakes. And it's SI made plenty mistakes. But what it was is that they had somebody watching over them. They had the uncle, and

they had family member. This young man didn't have nobody over him to tell and that boy still be on survivor's remorse to show he still respected his mother. I don't know the situation with this young man Henry Silks Jr. But Henry Sulks, the third, Henry Ruggs. But I can only imagine that if I'm the red one and I'm making all the money. You know, whoever make all the money, run everything everything. It's just like like the young lady the track star thing. You know, look at the mistake

that calls her. Yeah, of course she knew better, but we don't know what she was dealing with. But look what it cost her, right, you know it cost her. We have to start talking to our young kids, young men and women. We need to get back to them and say, hey, I get it, but don't don't one night he was a hugment from rag to Richards within

twelve hours hours. That was just not And the girlfriend was in the car with him and told him, apparent according to the news media, she told him, and he had a gun in the car and he was drinking, so, you know, And I feel so bad for the people who did. I feel bad for him partially because life is choices. Life is choices. And who has to say he has a he has a college education. Who's to say he finished college. He may have not finished, you know. And now he has this felony on top of him.

A voting year, it's a voting year. The football league dropped him. They're gonna slam him. I'm sorry to say that, they're gonna slam example out of him exactly. So we need to start teaching. We need to get back to where our grandmama's and grandfathers and our uncles and our aunts taught us how to act when we were at that age. We may not have listened totally, but something in your mind said, okay, all right, let me let

me pull back. But of course we weren't millionnaires either. Hello, I ain't never been I ain't never had that title. But I'm working on it, but let me tell you something you could like, I tell you, you you couldn't tell me a damn thing in the white my mom and dad at bart feet. What was I doing? Oh? I can't tell you because if I tell you, they might come back and arrest me. I'm not gonna tell your ship.

I'm not telling you, So don I want to ask you your opinion on um on the two football players, Aaron Rodgers the one, Now, do you think that was a play on words or do you think he lied? And Kyrie Irber who's still in his ground and say, I'm not taking it take me off the games. I ain't taking it. Well, I think if if if the uh, if Kyrie Irvin was white, we wouldn't be sitting there having this conversation. Period. It wouldn't matter if it was

if it, it wouldn't matter if it was ice hockey. Well, it ain't that many of us in ice hockey, so don't he Well it us time. And I'm not dismissing you, Cassie. Don't get me wrong. I'm not dismissing you or what you're saying, because I understand that. But if if Tyrie was black, was white. I'm sorry, and and just like Aaron Rodgers, we wouldn't hear nothing about it, just like we didn't hear nothing about Aaron Rockets not taking the faccine.

And he only got busted because he tested positive, which you can still have the va BEV actually and test positive. But then they dug into his records to realize that, oh, nigga, that ain't you said I'm immunaz. You didn't say, you know, so the way he said he was immuniz made you think that he was. He was fully bad. He lied. You know, the disparency in uh uh in this country is just laughable sometimes, you know, it's it's it's it's unsettling to me that blatantly white people can get away.

White privilege is beautiful at its best, but you can't have a hint of chocolate inside of you because you would get called down to the carpet every time. I might get put an I G jail behind this, But I truly believe that if you go to take a test and if they ask you you, you should tell them that you are, because I think they send something else when you're not, when you say you're not X,

especially after today because the man. They hit hard in California today, maybe they ride it in the streets downtown. I ain't going down there. I told you when I go home in August that uh when I went to my doctor, they saw that I took let the nudge practorian and I said, hey, I just want to let you know that I did take the vaccine. She said, well, yeah, I see that you took it here in June uh eight. I said, no, ma'am, I took it. I took the

first half, made something, whatever it was. Then I'll take the second half. So you're reporting wrong information. I'm fully that vaccinating. So if they did it to me and I caught it, how many other people they did it too? And a report that ship to the news. Excuse my body, man, report to the news, to the media. We want the party, man, just laughing line. We wanted party. We want a double party. I'm just saying, you know, but but if he was right, if he was right, he would we wouldn't be sitting

here talking about it. Hey, Marky Marko, UM, I have a different perspective on this. So I think this is really going to open up the conversation. Is the how important people's medical decisions. Oh that's don't do too much cod because they're gonna block us. Hell not, no, I get you, I'm gonna I'm gonna be careful. I think when it comes to medicine though, I think this is

why it's important. He believes in a holistic medicine. Right now, if you ask they, they will tell you that the deal the doctor of osteopathic medicine, they're the same thing. Their doctors, the ones a medical doctor ones Ado. He will tell you he will not go see a d O if his life was on the line because he thinks the d o's are below medical doctors, even though they both are physicians. Right now, this Aaron Rodgers. God, if you want to have a conversation about holistic medicine,

they believe in something totally different. So in his mind, if he believes in practices holistic medicine, and if he believes that he was immunized with whatever nasal spray he got, that's his business. Because do we go around Africa, that's not his business. Stop, that's not his business. He works on a team. He has to be responsible for everybody else on his team. That is not that is not true. Mark I'm not. I can't give you a pass on that player because he should have been more responsible. He

could have killed somebody, right, But that's the thing. They're not requires to get vaccinated. They are required to get vaccinated. The football league is making requestion. And then you get religion. Yeah, rod Jack d is flatant adam. So they're not. They're not required to get back to They have to either get vaccinated or they have to undergo testing weekly. They have those they have those options. So well, let me tell you something. His was not a play on words.

And I hear what you're saying, but by him saying that he was immunized and lying, he put his entire team in trouble. He did, and everybody else around him, not just the team, the water boys, the coaches, the people who rub you out and ship everybody, everybody he came in contact with. And he had to wear his mask all the time and they said he didn't. So the difference to me, and I ain't making anything about

Aaron Rodgers how he did it. I'm saying that Kyrie Irvan the black Man stood on his principle and say I ain't taking that ship. Y'all suspend in himpotent games. But this one lied and put everybody's life in jeopardy. And the football season is almost over with, you believe. And I've said this personally on your before, from a personal first STARTID I you know I will not I will make a decision when it's right for me. But in the meantime, whatever consequences are a result of me

not getting DOC, I have to accept them. I can't complain about. So I agreed, like I respected Kyrie because Kyrie said I'm not getting vaccine and he knew that was millions of dollars on the line and he's stuck with his own conscious and said I'm not doing it. So I respect that. And I do think Aaron Rodgers would have been more tasteful if he would have yes, said hey, I am immunionized in my productive with melist edicine. However, I have not received an actual COVID vaccine. Right that

would have been different because he should have. It's got fair there they go to get you, well, marky Mark, come on back where you at? Yeah, so that's all I say. I do agree. I see both points, but I do think the bearer conversation will eventually come to uh people's choice with medicine, because do we go up asking I've talked about this for I said, abortions and

that's healthful, that's someone's her personal health decision, right. Same thing with vaccines, and we know who was vaccinated on him and who's not because we've said it and we've still we've laid our ground. But do we go out look who look who's It's the same thing. I don't the reason I can't be Aaron Rodgers up, uh what happens? I just I just think it's I I think we're overly involved in people's business. I get that he's a public figure and that he has a team. You know,

that's someone I have my own perspective on that. But we need to stop looking at these people like they are are our saviors. They're not, like you always say, the superman's chest stands for saviors to be worried about. So why we are putting these people on the pedestal and expecting them to be the role model an example.

That's a cute decision. And like Teresa Griffin said, she had a horrible reaction to her back, well, she also has lupus, so she has a huge underlying condition because she has lupus that she talks about on her lap all the time. See. So that's what makes it scary because they keep talking about, Oh, you're gonna be fan, You're gonna be fan. It's one in a thousand, Okay, So what if I'm met one in a thousand, right, and they gotta cut my leg off or they gotta

amputate my arm because the reaction was just too Yeah. Uh, let's Mark, let's talk about since we're on young young football players, let's talk about that young football player cause you young. You about his age? He was twenty two, So Mark, see, and you used the money, But imagine had you never had money and then it just came on you all of a sudden one, how do you think that you would have been reckless? And I don't want you to be honest, I mean, like you gotta

be politically correct. I want you to be honest with us and tell us, so if you went from fifty dollars one day to fifty million the next day, do you think you would have been reckless? Um? In different ways? And I've talked about this, I've talked about this in my own lives. I think that I was very, very irresponsible when I had access to a lot of money. I did very well for myself young, And with that being said, I made horrible decisions when it came to

financial responsibility. When it came to setting myself up for success. I was never though and the I had I never ran in circles or I never had came to um face to face with issues like alcoholism or psyche. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I'm talking about the money I'm talking about at a young age, would you have went from fifty dollars to fifty million dollars and the next day would you have went about cars and levist jewelry and you know, and and being crazy, and especially if you was the

brand winning for everybody in your life. I would have definitely I did. And that's where one of my decisions. I went and bought the cars that I wanted to and I got scammed out in it. Essentially, so I made reckless decisions in that aspect. But I never was in I never thought about doing anything outside of that. I just felt, I have money, I'm gonna blow it.

And I had to learn. Um. I had to learn through trial and error, and essentially, like just life lessons on how to be a better steward of my my finances. So in that aspect, I will say, it is very easy to one day wake up to a bunch of success and not know what to do with it. That's what happens with all these Disney stars. Well Ship is the famous that that was, So people don't know that. They think it looks all want Oh you you rich, and you everybody know your name and woo woo woo.

There's a very dark sign to fame too. There's a very dark sad to fame that a lot of people came hand. And thank god the man came at this age because Hetty came at twenty two. I would have bought luxury cars and ran bitches off the road and jumped off bridges and everything else. I ain't even lie because I was young and wow, and I was never used to money like that. And if I would have gotten money like that, and I've always supported my family, I would have been in control because I made the

most money. So guess what, I ran everything. I do. Think there's a lot of conversation happening between you know, people are drawing the comparison between you know, Caitlin and this man, and it's like, what is your defense? Why did this person did the same thing you? Well, maybe he should go get some titties because it worked for that bitch. Maybe he should go get some titties because

she got off scott free. But I'm sorry, Mark, just want to know that, don't that the leagues have a committee where they try to guide these young men, give them play. They care. T t j And has talked about this. They care. They do have some they have some organizations, and they have some things that they facilitate for players. But teach talks about this all the time. When it comes to young men, specifically young black men,

they don't. They look at them to make money. When they go and try to pull you from your hood school all star, you know, a quarterback for the for the school and they try to make the neighborhood and and put you in as the star quarterback for that team. And they don't care about that. They care about making money and picking the best hathlete. What you do with your personal life, that's a block. Well, since we're talking about and you brought up Kanye, I mean you brought

up Caitlin. Let's go on to our next story, which is Travis Scott. Y'all gonna learn, and y'all gonna learn, and y'all gonna learn to lead the Haunted Mansion. Kardashian Couci the hell alone, everybody, And if you don't believe me, do your research. Every man that deals with them, Kardashian couchis, whether it be Jenner Couci or Kardashian COUCHI is all affiliated. All y'all are going you see what? And it's so

tragic that eight people that young people. I think the youngest were sixteen they report don say at fourteen, and then I think the oldest was twenty three. These are young people, whole life ahead of them, stampeded and and trampled and just oh my god. It's ridiculous. And they blaming him. But I did just see a post before I came on and said what he was going to pay for all the funerals. He was gonna cover all

the funerals. But you know, people smeil money, they're gonna try to sue him and drink like you wouldn't believe behind this because hundreds of people were hurt. I don't understand why they wait to try to sue them when the promoters I thought, I thought we were still had limited capacities of having a concerts. I didn't, that's why. Yeah, but it's still social distancing. There was all up on

each other, stumping each other, wasn't it. It was that the old after world for those that live in Houston. It's off the sixteen South right by Papadose. Okay, yeah, I understanding the lawsuits are already up over a hundred millions.

You know, well, no they will. I mean my thing is this, though, I don't hold Travis responsible because he's the talent, right And when you were performing and you're in that mode and you are not aware of what's happening necessarily, now where was it was as easy as the promoter's security to make a quick call to the soundboard to say shut the sound off so we can figure out what's going on. But that didn't happen. So I'm not blaming Travis Scott because if I know y'all

are gonna attack me. If Alec Baldwin is the talent and hasn't doesn't have accountability when it comes to the gun, then Travis Scott is the talent. He doesn't have accountability for what happened in his concert. Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's the young music. It's the young music. I'm telling you, go get you some. Frankie, Baby, go get you some. Uh, Jeffrey oz Born, you ain't gonna wanna hurt nobody. You ain't gonna shoot numb. You're gonna have sex and go

to sleep. Look, forty six means said that they will not getting any real money. This is Texas. And then again, she ain't lying. This is this is the great state of tex She is absolutely posit. It's scary. I'm gonna bring j Cassie. I'm gonna take your brain Jane on Baby. Thank you Cassie coming on and giving it to us. Baby. Let me tell you something. I'm glad they didn't get me fifty million dollars. Back then, I would have been a consuming tick. I was already a nutty beach. I

told you that my night on my first car. My first car was a gremlin. Oh when my last year high school. I know, y'all, I know that's way old nowe y'all, like, what the fund is the gremlin? And it was brown with orange seats, baby, and was that was my ship right there, though, right lady, he did after forty minutes, he did stop and say I think someone passed out over there. But again he did what he could do. But to blame him is ridiculous. Blame.

They're looking for a scapegoat, and unfortunately he's still a black man in this country. And Drake is involved in that, so they smeil money because Drake is involved, no matter what Travis Scott has. And then it's the Kardashians is affiliated with it, and you know they've got plenty of money. So I'm telling you it's people smell money. They like sharks in the water when they smell blood. They're going

after Italy. I don't fall I don't follow him either. Um, I'm not answering a private costs, but what than I would fall? You come up off alc BA. I told you that was a conspiracy. They did that so he wouldn't make them more Trump jokes. You see him made them more Trump jokes. I'm still confused about that. How they had that the bullet, I'm still confused. I don't know. But I think people you know, in the limelight and flamed, you know, HI, be aware of what's going Trust your

or the people who are put around you. Okay, I have to call you back on flipping my podcast. Your own your your own boss, your own person, and be responsible for you. That's when you at the end of the day. And so I think that's the bigger conversations they give me. Celebrities, these teams, people are you know, in and out and all these different things. Do your own due diligence because no matter what level of famous success you have, you always are gonna be held accountable

for your part of something. Right, agree, Where's Janet? Jan paging Jeanette? Paging Jane She said, Lord, I think I think they're having issues because she's you know, we're both in jail. But they're letting me all right now. They do let you on market, and you've been on for quite some time talking to your ship. You want to talk about the filibuster. Uh, that's not one of the topics today. Fun that Philipbus did they put the anti

lynching along in there? Funk that Philipbus. I was watching of View this morning and they were talking about wants the Philipbus to pass the damn Uh the deficit was gonna go up, baby, Donald Trump sent the defecate and to a tail spined. Y'all ain't say a ship about that. He took us in the trillion trillion trillions. I ain't trying to hit none of that. He last baby. Each minority party, they always they always put about defense, about the deficit. The deficit is always a problem with every

party in charge. It doesn't matter. But I will say this to prove my point last week. And I always say I will come around when I'm right, and I will. I will bring it up in everybody's chase. Because we talked about the Progressive Caucus, and the Progressive Caucus sat with their hands covered and they voted no on this bill. And guess who came through twelve Republican members in the House,

in the House voting yes. The Progressive Caucus sat back. Well, you you know, I tell you all the time, that's because the Democrats on bullshit. The only one that's gangster is my woman. My woman is the only one that's gangster. When I meet up, I'm gonna take that that the ping off, and we're gonna share it. Yes we are. I love Nancy Pelos. That's who of us say that the progressives are not. They're not fracturing the party, and

progressives are. You know, they're on the front line. Just remember, if it was not for those twelve Republicans and those progressives who sat back, just remember, this bill still would not here. And let me tell you something, I'm not giving them to a Republicans, no past. They only did it because they can't stay in Trump. They only did because now he trying to come up with his own party. Now he trying to break the VAT and the GOP.

He's destroying the GOP. And you know what, no better for him because they allowed him to put They put him in that position to do that. Ship if they let him go in again, well then they are as dumb as everybody thinks that in my opinion, I don't think it's happening, but I think it's just to get some money going. You know, it's always about money. It's

always about money. Let's when we're talking about money, let's talk about Rittenhouse case and i'm rb case that they got one black juror on both those cases, one black juror, one black juror and they got and im are where my y was killed. That they have a lot, they have a lot of black people down there. Yeah, they have one black person, but they have a lot of black people in that county. So I'm saying why they

didn't bring more people and said this. You know, he called it out, but he didn't do anything about it because they probably tied his hands. So a lot of times we think they got positions of power, but their hands be tired. The only person that did what the fun they wanted to do was Trump. That's called election time and he needs money for election. The law prohibits which shows the only people who are responsible for agreeing and picking the jury are both the state and the defense.

It's up to the attorneys. The judge, from my understanding, has no authority to pick or make sure that there's impartial jury, which is confusing because your whole purpose is a judge, is to ensure right there's a fair and impartial trial, and you think it's gonna be fair. No, But what I think I think what this judge did when he made that comment, because he clearly stated on the record that he believed that there was clearly discrimination

and picking of the jury. I think he is sending us up for the appellate court to have to be the one to come down right, Okay, but that's not a set up. I don't do that. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with more attention, more attentions. I think he did that. He set it up for that reason. For what. Now, at the end of the day, once he got his courtroom, the appellate court is gonna have the final say, and in my court to the Supreme Court, he it is? Is it being held in that same county? What? Why

didn't they act question? That's what I'm not understand. Because the judge has the right to override that because if he wants that case, and you know that's gonna make national news, that's that could do one this for his career. So you got to look at all capacities because look what it did to Edo when Edo was to Jewish over over Um, over the killer over No, not Trey Vine to the other one, oh James. Yeah. And if

you wonder us for Edo's career, Uh yeah. And fame, I told you a lot of people want the fame. They want that fame. I want to I want to be known. I want to be famous. I want to be honey. It is a double status. So I promise you. But you know what, while I have my markey, I want to touch base one Aaron Rodgers, and I'm not because you know, I'm in jail with you. He did

that to play on words. And if you go back and look and he says yeah, and then he goes on with his explanation and he uses some words that are more pertinent in that, in that, in that spectrum of medicine. But it's not because it's nothing unusual for sports figures to tap into other sources because they want to stay young and they want to perform forever. And even so that wasn't that wasn't a deal breaker. He knew what was expected of him and he played on it.

And since then he's come out with all these lies. You know how when you get caught a lie and you keep trying to explain it away your boy away and think about it bubbles then and then you will come back and say, but because I said that because of this, you got caught, said that you go Burthen to the the something in both the fire he stole he stole that laugh for me on the breakfast club. Uh. And then he said that he always thinks about him

later the deciding to have a kid. So Aaron is just lying and he has done what he thought was a good job of covering that. Good old boy, I'm just the trailer type of person. He hasn't covered it well at all at all. And y'all gave Colin Kevine the blues for taking a knee. Ain't that some ship? And he did too. He did too, and then turned

around and treated his parents like they were nothing. So his credentials, I'm not buying it because every sports sports person you talked to, they always trying to do something. The lands arm Strong, the Tom Brady's who wants to bring his own trainer on the field. He has to have this special drink for energy and it's been tested so it's nothing in there. But all this in their heads are gonna keep them at optimal fighting levels forevan

to day. What they failed to realize is when you decide to retire, you're gonna still have the aches and pains of playing that uh and Dawn, you had said a lot of the older players need to gonna talk to the younger players. But girls out of the older players, remember they got that brain disease because they was getting hit in the head so hard. Remember Will Smith made that movie back speaking of Will Smill. Let me tell you something, and we wasn't scared enough about the goddamn vaccine.

You now you want to make I am legend too, Will I need you to knock it off. And you're right. And for the athletes, it starts in high school. Those private schools come gunning for those young none blue eye, I'm just trying for its not to go back to jail. But they come for those young athletes. And then they convinced these young athletes, see how much better it ills for us if you played for us and not your community. And so then the parents things, oh yeah, they loved him,

they loved him. No they send a cab. No, no, they want them for their athletic ability. Then they go to college and they still have want the rock started. And every time they go to a recruit they don't have sisters there. They have blue alass there. John. I saw that the other day where they were doing a comparison of how we used to be on an auction black and how they were doing the football players on

the I mean, and how they were doing slate. Yeah, I saw that that was that was the that was real deep, really deep, and the schools put and there's a lot of money that goes behind it. Actually in my neighborhood, the big the biggest schools right two blocks there.

I hear them doing marketing band right now. They lost all their state titles because an investigation shows that they were hunting these athletes and these poor or minority ran communities, taking them here, putting them in apartments in the zip coach. So it looked like on paper that they were a zone for this school. They were here and they were Stay tuned, Mark, Now you listen to what you just said, because the whole conversation talking about Henry, Henry rugs the

third is exactly what I said. They go, they take them boys from zero to sixty and they don't surround and you can't. I'm and I know I don't think I'm racist, but had this but I'm gonna say it anyway. You cannot surround a young black man or a young black woman with a team of white folks that don't understand because you can't tell me my story if you're not part of who I am, my culture, you cannot, at least if they would have gone to an h b c U, which the government took half of their funding.

Half they took more than half. Well, they would have got to some types of twin it because the coaches will will remind those kids of that either they dad is step daddy, Uncle, Papa, somebody come on papa. I'm just you know, I'm just saying at an h b c U, the coaches more than likely we train these kids and talk with it. Whatnot. I say, trained mentored. Let me tell you how this so, and my baby goes to a HBCU, but that ain't the sport he plays.

He plays mechanical engineering. But he's also covered by a black Man's caucus, which was very important to me. And these are black men that are successful and not financially just financially successful. They're successful in life with their businesses. And so they're teaching my son things that I couldn't teach him. So I'm I'm bored with that because I don't know who's coming back to me. But I know he's gonna be a better man than he was when he left here. But you know, let me also say this.

You know, I'm not saying that that's the mirror of everybody's home unit, because there are still two family um residency with the dad and the mom. But because we let blue eyes makes us think whatever they have is better. That's when you start getting sucked there, because they get given everybody matching bags because they got your name on the bag, and so we automatically, now we don't feel and you've been your kids the best of everything. They're

giving them too many luggage. Yea, y'all'll know nothing about too many. Give you too many luggage? I love too me. They just steal it at the airport over time. Now all of a sudden it's not good enough. Now we we're pulling them. We're sucking them in. We're sucking them in for their athletic ability. That we're not sucking them. They're not sucking them in because of who they are. They want to win in team and they want to be painted as the damn excuse me, nice white people

on Instagram. They want to suck them in because they want to feed the blind side. That's all the greatest white hope. That's all that's about. So now we plan it in their heads, and so now they're not in our hospitals anymore. They're going to the university where they ain't even touching the same couchie every single night. Yeah, it ain't no such thing as a girlfriend. And she's a nice girl. Look what school? Wait a minute, what's school?

That's the truth. I've gone on these recruit treats. I've seen the girls that they passed around the night before before the parents get there. They're sick close to the recruits and with the recruits don't even want to turn around and say hi, because now they shape yea. And they had an episode just like that online order SPU before and because they put him on video and he committed suicide or something because he was they tricked him into having a bunch of white girls. But it was

a white boy. They gave him Flacio. So it does happen more often than not. So it does happen. And I'm not moving, But you're worse for everybody. I'm simply saying that somebody in your circle really gotta have your back, you know. And and if you go to making all the money that will inflate the kid's head as well. That's not good and safe because if you just down their head and they then saund the contract, they ain't listening to you no way. Now there's a young man

cleaning in the league. He he called my son and he said, dude, my dad just called me and said, why was I buying pizzas for my whole team? And he said, damn, that's cool. Be hands on and look, keep making them money. But if dad wanted to know, you know, if somebody took his car in one state and then in another, well let's go on to Ridden House, because baby, we can stay on this football and all the scams and ship I wish I was a football player or a new one. Well, I did back in

the day. But I did back in the day. But I ain't telling y'all. You want to hear about that, Joe, go watch they ready. There's truth to every joke I told. There is truth to every joke I tell you. Let's go on and talk about Kyle Ridden House. He also has one black jewel. But they prayed he killed nan black folks in the church after they prayed with his head. Do you understand how what kind of monster you have to be? After the black folks been in the church

praying for you, you're a stranger. And then he sat there and listened to the prayer for what thirty forty minutes, So all this time he could have said, you know what, the spirit of God should have touched me and I'm not gonna do this, but he did. His man was so made up and he did just what he wanted to do. No, I'm sorry now, I'm sorry. I'm thinking about dealing ruth. I'm sorry, that's my bad. You're right,

rittenhouse is the fourteen year boy. They walked down the street with the gun, walked right past the police with the gun like nigga. What They ain't saying nothing? They said, ship big old gun to what? No, little big old gunna hanging off his side, just walking and his mammy drive him, drove him up there. And I said, what I said is mammy drove him up there. His mammy drove him up there to commit murder. They should lock that bit up too. How how many black people on

this one? Is that? Is that the only black person in that town? Oh? No, it's Connosha, Wisconsin. And they got lots of section eating Condosa, Wisconsin. Baby, it's lots of black folks there and poor white folks. But let me tell yall something. We if well only I want to say this without getting myself in trouble. If they get these boys off, we we we need to really active food because it's just showing that we haven't progressed

at all. And that and that is and and and and these gun laws, you know, they do what they do. But you know, as a parent, why would you allow your son to have any team because you because she's special. I'm right, But what he's not gonna shoot dear, because you tell the animal yea? And what's and what's his excuse? He was protecting the business, nigga. You was on a whole another county across state lines. So I'm not understanding why you and and the prosecutor and the defense they're

going on found one black person. Well, now let me get on our case about that too, don't. We talked about this A lot of us us get them jewelry duty papers in the mail. We through that. The guyage, I ain't going, I ain't going. I ain't going. Every time I got called and I got X all the time. They don't how they ever called me called me, I'll come to call. I'm gonna becoming lovely. Titt's right here coming.

They don't. They don't call. I've never once got a paper, And oh, I'm gonna come in with a short dress on TV, sitting there right up on my chain and say how can I help you? Let me help you, let me save you. You know I will say this too, and I hate to be like this way, but you know you, Megan, come on, Megan. As being as objective as possible, I will say, prepared for the worst. I think that they will get his mom and they will get him on some Uh no, no, no, they're gonna

it's too obvious. That is too They're gonna. They're gonna get him. He might not get the max, but they're gonna get They don't him like they did They're gonna do. They're gonna do him like they did that other man that killed um floor. They're gonna make an exam bottom him. And his mother is gonna his mother is the love of his life. Is gonna get up there and speak on how she was his love. He was her first born and she loved him, just disregarded who he killed.

But that perspective, I'm saying from a legal purpose perspective, I think from my understanding, because he was getting they did come at him and strike him. And so there is the self defense to an extent. No, he ain't got no damn self defense. No, no, no, no. I think in the law this is how they're he killed two white boys. He ain't getting off. He killed two white boys, and how many black people had no gun and they tackled and they tackled it there because the

black people take him. He killed two white folks, but he shot several other white fighters. You know what I think, You know what I think the relationship between him and his mother is. It gives me quite incest It gives me quite incestuous. It gives me quite you know, baby, I'm it gives me. It gives me very incestuous. But but because because he killed white people, they're gonna take

that seriously. But if it would have killed one of us, he probably would have got seen his probation, adjudicated probation with a suspended sentence. I don't think they'll get him on second degree murder charges. I think that if we'll see a man slaughter, if anything, now, they ain't gonna drop the charges. He killed somebody white Mark. But you have to understand, okay, I'll just we'll see. Yeah, we're saying he kills somebody white, it's different when it's white

on white. But he was. If he would kill black people, they probably would give him a classy misdemeaning, well, regard this is one. The mom is just absolutely well. The mother is his sister. Mark you heard Look, you heard me tell that joke on stage before. So huh. The little girl came out to my door and I told her go right down the street and tell your mom and daddy, brother and sister. She surely the baby Karen came to my house, but caring to know who she

was sucking weak. At the end of the day, it's important that we we worry and this situations ourselves because if there there were riots going on here last year, right down the road, if a business owner would have came to me and say, hey, I know you your arms, can you come help me? No, I can't. Did nobody asked him? He don't. He jumped up and she drove him. But I'm saying, this is the mentality of a lot of people. Let me go save my community, let me

go stand up for the dis owner about yourself community. No, No, it wasn't. I know I know, but the aser conversation and that this is the mentality of a lot of people. I've heard it. People say, Oh, you don't come to my area. Are I'm gonna go protect these businesses? No, protect your house because if you come to my house, you ain't leaving my front yards. And that's the haunt of a different color. Because if he was at home and the people would have gone to his house, that

every right to protect his property. But this is where people are going today. They're thinking that they can go out in public with their guns and save this business and do that. You know what. It sucks that the balls are burning down when that stuff happens, But I don't care about the ball. They haven't been sure in college. Yeah they have. If you want to, I ain't giving that nigga no kind of pass. Him and his mama jumped in a car and drove across state lands to

go do exactly what he did. And then they let that bitch draft her son and then she drove him back home the same night. Bullshit it was playing that it was paying and has in place for his legal and I hope this legal used up every dame. Yeah, because then they raised like two million dollars. He's legal fun. I got three hundred thousand, but that's only I hope they whatever they raised that they exhaust and failed appeals.

I will say this that I'm not trying to be mean, but whoever you are doing big things, actually you cannot actually go protect the business. It is against the law and a lot of jurisdictions. So before you go do something crazy, I want to check your law. We ain't gonna do that because we made our own business. That was some dumb as white boy. Let me just call it out. That was a dumbass white boy with That was a dumbass white boy with a stupid ass mama.

Let's just call the ship out. We don't do that. We'd be like, if you don't set your dumb ass down there, man, your business. That's what we do. But that's how you know that stuff is taught. You know what I mean. It's the mentality right because he was a tween thirteen fourteen. Racism is a learned behavior. We have talked about it and talked about the vehicle and gives him the I want to know that the bitch give him a pemp talk on the way there was she was she gassing them up. Was she yeah, go

out there, baby, do it. We're gonna make history. We're gonna we're gonna be known fame. See. And as much as it's horrible, he's still famous. I told you famous. Very dark on the other side, when when you sitting up there and teach your children three and four years old how to shoot a right, so go to the dear last and get an eight point some in it wrong.

My biggest issue, my biggest issue was the military people driving right past him with that big gas gun on his sad n This ain't aliens, You ain't the gurny weve but with no big as gonna trying to kill aliens. But right, but yet still were black lives matter and we ain't got nothing but sad and nothing. Okay, ridiculous. Probably from the mother's perspective, it is and it isn't his mother specifically, but parents in general. It is in our DNA to protect our offspring. Like that's why lions

kill other lions cups. They want to further and give further longevity to their DNA. And so the fact that own business due but woman got her son and took him, took him to this area with a weapon. What mentally is she going? And that drive was more than an hour?

Of course, I think that drive was more than an hour according to the news, So they had a whole hour to turn around and say, you know what, this ain't right because no matter what you are, what color you are, racist or whatever, everybody knows the difference between right and wrong. Everybody knows the difference between right and wrong. And there's a lot of comments of people thinking that it's legal to do what he did. Y'all need to go, you know you don't. Y'all just need to wait for

them to hook that nigg up. And I hope when you get in jail the Arian brothers reminded him that he is one of the white Arian brothers and make him a white Arian sister U because that's young white cakes. Look look young tight cakes. Oh, I know how they do in prison. They I know how they do in Prisson before they probably got him in the county year. Is he still in the county yards on the holiday? K No, that was that was that was dealing route.

The state was feeding him and got him all shaped up and bring All I know is that that was Jamal Jamal would have been convicted. Damn right, he would have been. And I'll tell y'all what. I'll tell you what. The mother needs to be hung out to draft. She needs to be she needs I'm surprised to state in fresh charges against us. I was shocked too. Yeah. Right, it's child and endanger man here. But I will say that to your point, if that was Jerome, you know

it would be convicted already. This is why I think it is important for I get that a lot of people toward the left or Democrat policies are stricter gun laws. But if you are a block or brown or any minority, we need to be armed, and it's okay to go and take the classes, arm yourself and do it legally. It doesn't always have to be illegal because you should want to protect yourself because guess what they're doing on the other side. That's right, But you know what, Mark,

it's not as that simple. Let me tell you something. When my ex party, who's on here, Nick Smith, who lived in a little in Arkansas, went through all of the galleys, never been in trouble with the law, upstanding, college educated, he went through all the galaxies down there to get his gun license and they didn't give it to him. He couldn't purchase a gun. This is why, because he is a big black man. I'm telling you the racism is right there. That's why I'm telling y'all.

Pooky Ray Ray them called me one hundred, I know them, niggas called me one. I know them niggas. And Nicholas is completely legit, eight hundred credits score everything that he felt that he checked all the boxes and they denied him because they said because he hadn't lived in the state long enough, that was not it. Because other people was going to band guns. He should have put on his application white. Look, you have to get people print to take a picture. Well, they would have found it

when I got there. He could have put on some white makeup. We do they do black face. I'm gonna do white face. Ship ladies and gentlemen. Thank you guys for joining us, for laughing learned today. Dawn and and Jan and Mark, thank you guys for carrying the show for me, because y'all know, Lauren can't be here today and I am still under the weather this with this cold, damnit. And I hate that we are so paranoid that we forgot that the common code is still happening every day.

You know, we you sleeve you caugh you. Oh, I got the rowney. I got that. You don't have the fucking roning. Go get a test and make sure you don't have the rony. But the common code is still happening, and the weather is changing, and yeah, you're going up in the grocery stores and people touching the cards and they give you the wipes at the grocery store. But I think the wipes be reused. I take my own ship. I spray everything. I think some of the wipes have

been used two or three times. They just put them back in the thing. Don't they be dry. I'm like, y'all, never use these already. I'm gonna bring my own ship. Trying to get out of my head. I'm so proud of y'all. Listen, listen, flame, you did a wonderful job. Lauren. We love you. We're lifting you up and prayer my baby. We love your honey, We love I just want to say a couple of two things really quickly in regard

to ton. I lost my father at a young age, and I don't like people reaching out to me all the time, and I think, yeah, I will say that it's it's awkward. I don't I don't want people, some people don't want you feeling pity. Allow people to have their spaces if they want to talk about it or say do that. But it is a little bit overwhelming.

Sometimes That's very true. Mark because since since since ms Marsha passed, I've spoken to Lauren on the phone for about two minutes one time we text because I'm giving her her time. Yeah, cancer, you're when it comes to cancer specifically. But the other thing I want to say is uh. And this is just because I've been in circles lately. Before you vaccinate your kids five to eleven, talk to your pediatrician and have an honest conversation and

do what's best for you and your kids. I ain't got no keys in that age record said that they only offering a hundred dollars, So are they offering money? Are they actually offering money to take the vaccine for kids? Not hundred dollars? Talk to your dollars, Talk to your pediatrician that you trust, go over your child's medical history. What ship If I wasn't scared, they just scared me. Will Smith I know you're not watching, but don't do no. Damn I am legend too. Let's fix this ship. We

already damn scared you all. Let's think about the mood. They're going to dark and they just was eating eating. They ate the damn dog. Oh and they were smart. They hooked him up and hand him hanging from the car U bullshit. Thank you guys for joining me for laughing. Alert today by Dawn by Mark by Jane y'all can father Dawn darn does readings with with with Dawn Texas start for was it forty seven or twenty seven? I'm getting ready to start after you finish. Okay, so she

gonna come on and then Markey Mark. I would say Markey Mark and Jan come on, but they're both in jail. Yeah we want so Yes, thank you guys for joining us for laughing un tonight. I'm not sure if I'm gonna do Love lounge tonight because I'm gonna see how I feel later. I feel better now, but that's why I kept my onesy on because I'm baby. I don't want to be coughing and coking and she people looking at you want to pull out guns that the white

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