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Simply The Best #ripTinaTurner

Jun 01, 202344 minSeason 3Ep. 11
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Flame Monroe joined by resident Flamette Bobbi Clifford discuss the recent passing of the legend Tina Turner, reactions to the new Little Mermaid movie, the 2024 republican candidates taking shape, the debt ceiling and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

Do what you do? Can't no you what I do? No this? Hey hey, hey, welcome to laugh and learn. I am your host, Flaming Roe, and today almost is the new the son of a new month. We are at May thirty first, almost six months into the year, and I would love to say that America has gotten better, but absolutely not. So today we're gonna talk about it. I am here with my wonderful producer, mister Aaron, and my girl, my one and only girl. Mistook to somebody.

Speaker 1

Cliff and hello, Bobby, Hi, saying.

Speaker 4

I'm glad you here to join me because I've been all over the place I was. I was on a whirlwind tour in Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio.

Speaker 1

Good god, oh, tell us all about it.

Speaker 4

Springfield, Ohio will never be the same. They was already Trump country. They were scared of black folks. But when they started black training come through, I think they fell in love.

Speaker 1

Baby.

Speaker 4

Oh my god, I had the best time. Thank you Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio. Thank you Downielle Robins. We were at Downie or Land this weekend, Bobby, and it is a gathering of people from all nationalities, all walks of life. We barbecue, we paddleboarded, we were on canoes, we played kickball, we played cars. We joined together. And he had a podcast on Monday. And I'm sitting on the stage with no makeup. I'm looking just about like I look right now, and I'm looking at the audience

of everything. When I say everything, everything, and they say playing and what does Danielle Land mean to you? And I said, I'm looking at America. This is America to me, this is the America that I grew up and everybody just getting along, fragnize it, fixing each other. Place. There were large whites, large black, small, black, small, agent. Everybody was a family. Nobody was in Louis being shot or being beat up. There was no profanity. It was so

many kids around. The kids were interacting. That is the America I grew up in, and unfortunately that is not the America that I know right now. But I remember that that was it, and I was glad to be reminded of this is what is America, not what they're pushing. So it was a beautiful path for me. I had a great time. I was introduced to twenty six hundred new people because they had me host to show it was Trump Country. I came out and told a joke about Joe Biden, but of course I had to give

them what they needed. I told one about Trump too. I said, Trump like the grad woman by the pussy. I hope he grabbed man. He's gonna be stroking for nine inches. They lost it. They loved me because I did not attack their leader. I made fun of their leader. It's a very big difference when you don't attack, but if you make fun of Because they know it too. They laughed with me, not at me, They laughed with me. It was a great experience, Bobby, and I was glad

to go. So next year we got to go about it. Are you gonna get in the boat, Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 1

Sweet Jesus, I might think it. I might be like, uh, you know the Fitzgerald that went.

Speaker 4

Down, Oh that was a man, Bobby, three times begging than you. His boat didn't sing, now, any of it, Willie. Almost the whole time this boat had an erection. It was all up in the front.

Speaker 1

Good God, he didn't sit in the middle.

Speaker 4

You said it in the bag, baby, And the boat was full on hard good. I wanted to put a condom on it, Jesus. The boat was stating up. It was so much fun. It was. It was a great and it was It was a reminder of my childhood because when I used to go to summer camp, we were thrust upon each other with all different nationalities. So it wasn't though you were a black kid, I'm a white kid. You a Latino kid. You agent. We were all just children and we all got along. You know.

We just got along because we got along because we were kids, not because we were colors and that's what's wrong with the world. Now everybody's seeing color as opposed to people. It's just crazy. But it was a great experience. Thank you, Donille Rawlins Downielle Land is wonderful. Next year, you guys, get your tickets, say look forward on Donille's site.

It was wonderful, wonderful, wonder I'm telling you, bring your kids, bring your dog, bring your bring your camping equipment, and bring a great personality and leaa trolls at home because it was just a wonderful experience. I just had to get that out. And now we're back home to the drawing boy. Good God on my bad Jesus, thank you, and where we are this was This was also a very very touching and hard weekend for me, Bobby, because

I lost We lost a legend. We lost somebody that I admire so much as I have impersonated her as a character for more than twenty years, the late, great, the one and only Miss Tina Turner herself. God, I love to do Tina Tina and used to Tina was my bread and butter for many years, Bobby. Because I was known as a teen at turning female impersonator. I made so much money just doing Tea as a character.

Speaker 1

You were the first person I thought of when I heard it and it popped up, I immediately thought a few I'm like, oh my god, that's you know, I mean, she was. She was a remarkable woman who had through the adversity of her life and the worst of circumstances. She was the phoenix that rose again.

Speaker 4

Yes she was. She was quite what fifty sixty years in the industry, and mind you, she was a black woman the whole time. So imagine how hard it was back then as a black entertainer and a woman, you know, because it ain't just because you're black. America is very sexist. And you know, she rose above all that. And then she left this country because she wanted to be She went to your because she had experienced being treated as a person. That is horrible to say, but so true.

She experienced being treated as a person, not an entertainer, not black, not a woman, as a person, and she said, you know what, I'm out of here. So she brought her home in the south of France and lived and died there, and lived well and died well there. That was a beautiful thing. Sometimes you got to go find your joy, and Tina was a phenomenon. I used to have the legs. I still got them, they're just not as they're not as young and strong as they used

to be. But I used to have the legs. I always had to smile, the tist together a little bigger. But I loved to emulate Tina. I loved Tina's fireing, her energy. I love that resty voice, and I loved that Tina was never nothing but hair, teeth, legs and a smile. She was always That's who Tina was. And energy energy.

Speaker 1

I was just gonna say the same thing, and energy. She kind of entered the room and everybody turned, regardless of what condition, if she was all done up or if she wasn't. And she married a much younger man. My god, was he what was he? Was he Frond or Swisser?

Speaker 4

I think he was. I think he was Swiss. I think he was.

Speaker 1

Swiss, Okay, because I know she live there for she was.

Speaker 4

I think he was German. And you got a job in Switzerland and they moved there, and then she bought the chateau in the south of FRANCEA but whatever the case was, what I loved that she found in her life, which is the most important. I know y'all think it's money and fame success. I promise you that having somebody to love you, that you can depend on and you could talk to, because killa talk is the greatest talk in the world, that is so important to have that

comfortability level. And y'all know, I'll talk about love like. I ain't called me in love, but I do love that I have somebody that looks after me, that I trust and I leave her when I need to. She had that after all the abuse that she went through with another partner, and then whatever the ups and downs of her career, in her life, she found somebody that gave her joy to the end. That is always a good thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, in peace. She died with her family around her, and she was just at peace. And it also shows you that you know, you have to take care of yourself, because I swear that half of the stress that she had led to some of those those medical conditions. You know, it's just it's awful, but she was. She's going to be sorely missed. Sure.

Speaker 4

She was a twice twice inductive to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She's going to be she will go on forever, and I love that they have been playing so many tributes. I think Beyonce did a tribute for her on one of her shows, and they've been playing her on soultoime, on serious radio. They have just turned it into a Tina turning station. I have heard songs by Tina that I had never heard that I love. I listened to Sam Cook's rendition.

Speaker 1

Of I love that, I love that.

Speaker 4

Yeah. I listened to Our Boy by the Real and I had never heard Tina's version. I thought it was great. But they played the Game of Love by Santana. That's my favorite song, Aby Team that I loved to get me a little bit, and I love my man in Ohio by outside doing the show.

Speaker 1

Did you come out like that at all?

Speaker 4

I came out of Tina. I came on this show. They went ag. I think the white people were still screaming. I think they was. They were looking at one of those hologram that was so much like Tina.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, and that white dress that you have that's like perfection.

Speaker 4

Rights, little booty shaking dress. But yeah, rest in peace to the great late great tending. We're losing so many of the greats. But I love the fact that that Dash from ninth, from nineteen thirty nine to twenty twenty three, that Dash was a roller coaster of love for her. She went up and down, and when she did go up, she went to the stratus fifteen. It was the biggest star at one point in time of anyone.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, And now she's I mean, if you believe in an afterworld, she's with her baby. You know he died five or six years ago.

Speaker 4

Cause you know I didn't get in. I will sit on the outside house and this bullshit, why I ain't get in smoking a cigarette outside of her, I couldn't get in.

Speaker 1

No, he's got your little purgatory time with us. Catholic said, you got to do your time, a little purgatory time.

Speaker 4

I'm scared of purgatory. I ain't got no fan. Rest in peace to the late Gray tender Turner. The ladies. You know, we all loved her. America loves her, Europe loved her. I think people just loved her in general. She was just a force of powerhouse of a person in China and a woman. So yeah, and.

Speaker 1

We love as Americans, we love an underdog We love anybody that's that's fought back from adversity and and gone on and done well and bring people along, you know. So she was again, she just was. She was a one in a million, that's for sure.

Speaker 4

And also, well, that was the death of a legend. Now let's talk about the birth of a new legend, of a legend in the making, because this past weekend they had that live version of the The Mermaid. Did you see it? Bbby?

Speaker 1

I did see it, and you were just talking. I was thinking a couple of times, a couple of sentences you've already said. I was thinking that would be a perfect segue. That would be a perfect segue inclusion. So it wasn't just about having a little black girl as a mermaid the the I don't want to ruin it for people, but the family. So she know how, she's got sisters. You know, we've all seen the cartoon version.

They're all different ethnicities. It's inclusive. Yeah, it's just she happened to be African American, but she has a Latina sister, she has an Indian sister, she has an Asian sister, she has a white sister. So I thought that was cool.

Speaker 4

I know, I know that, daddy, because I know a guy who got an Asian kid and a white kid and his name ain't Titan. But I know that daddy. Uh yeah, that that is what's great. And I love that they used Melissa McCarthy to play.

Speaker 1

She was terrific.

Speaker 4

I heard she was terrific. I heard she was and I never knew she could carry a tune.

Speaker 1

She you know, like what she is as good as the first note. But this is a girl who doesn't sing, so she must have had vocal lessons. And she put her own spin on it. You know, she she did it. It was pretty much word for word, but she put inflections that the original version didn't have. I thought she was absolutely incredible. I loved it. Each person did a great job. I think that we should have you be Sebastian's sister Crabb being like Sebastiana or so that's Genn you could.

Speaker 4

Oh no, let me tell you something. If I if I had any part, I had to be the big bitch that's in charge. I had to be Ursula. I wanted to be.

Speaker 1

I could see I could say, there's a character, Oh my god, what is is it? Scuttle? There's a there's a bird that's always got all the information and just flying in. I could see you as that too, cou.

Speaker 4

Know, I always get all the information, Bobby. I love the fact that there was so many doubting Thomas's and there was so much pushback because you know, this person played this character, this color played that character. That the movie broke box office records, made one hundred and seventeen million dollars open weekend. It's still making crazy money. It's getting great reviews.

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we have to get things a chance. Everybody got an opinion about this, that and the third. But you have to get things a change. And I love that they proved all the doubting Thomas is wrong. I love that, Bobby. It was.

Speaker 1

It was so inclusive that the show almost made color in ethnicity. It went away. So the main character, the bull, isn't as terrible. I can't think of his name, but the prince, his mother was African American and he was white. It just if you were the best, you got the role period and it made us and you didn't see anything. You weren't looking for color. You were just looking for the characters. You were looking for them to do the job. Well,

it was amazing. It was one hundred and eighty five million, almost one hundred and eighty six worldwide. Unbelievable.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's pretty dope, and that is fantastic, and that it will open up the door for other movies for them to give other opportunities to people are not just color, but different ethnicities, different backgrounds, to say, hey, you may be an unknown or what have you, but we gonna give you did Like you said, whoever you did the best audition got the Yeah, that is what it should be. But so many things are off name.

Speaker 1

That's and I feel, I mean, that's how the world should be. Right. Whoever the best accountant is, whoever the best whatever, the best person and most qualified should get the position flung. We do have a little diversity because we need a little bit. People have different mindsets, so you want to have a little bit of everything, so you think of everything.

Speaker 4

The best host should always be claiming it's just the truth.

Speaker 1

Well, there you go, it's you'd be at It's.

Speaker 4

To Hollyberry and the cat all the cats. That congratulations from you guys. That was fantastic. Okay, Bobby, where were you going there?

Speaker 1

So? Unfortunately you were telling us about your phenomenal kickoff to the unofficial summer weekend. And there were there was a shooting at on Hollywood, Florida, on the beach, on the beach, well you know where else. There was a shooting Chicago, Revan, Massachusetts, just a few miles from where I live. I forgot two separate incidents where nobody died. But they had two separate incidents within an hour of each other. So not all with handguns. The kid pulling

it out. Why they had it, they were all young. Why this is how we have to resolve an issue, I don't know. But the same as Hollywood, Florida. Hollywood had nine injuries and there were two men involved in that one. Four children were hit between the ages of one and seventeen, and then five adults between twenty five and sixty five. They said they the police got five handguns that were recovered. Two of them was stolen. And

it happened at seven pm. Revere Masks and Revere Beach is the first public beach in the United States of America. And that's what it's, you know, that's what happened done on our beach here.

Speaker 4

Bullets. Bullets has no name when I was a kid when they would shoot doing the Fourth of July. We lived in the projects and they would shoot New Year's Eve. We would have to get in the bathtub or get between the walls because they were My grandmother would always say, bullets ain't got no name. Unfortunately I was the early seventies. Look where we are now. Bullets does not have a name. You go out here recklessly shooting at whoever you mad at,

or whoever you feel like. They cross shoe would have it, and you don't, and you're not trained. You don't know how to use weapons. Ronce have kickback. You shoot a gun, you never hit the intended target, but you hit the herson close to or close proximity because you have no training. That is, I want them to remove some of these guns off the street. But I'm more mad than these

people are just reckless with it, that damn it. If you're going to add a building, even if it's illegal, can't your ask to the gun range and at least learn how to use this weapon. You may kill your your own kid or your own mama just because you don't know what the weapon in your hand will do.

Speaker 1

Because they're one twenty percent right, and one of these shootings they actually that happened at reve Or Beach. They had somebody was filming it. I think they were just filming because there was a disagreement and they could see it. The kid just raised the gun, put it in the air. He just shot a shooting flam just you didn't know. He wasn't even pointing it at anybody. But it could

have gone into the buildings. It could have gone into a car, am other nursing, or a baby in the car because the hot night, because it was in the nineties, you know, so just trying to get a nice school breeze.

Speaker 4

Let me tell you what's so scary, Bobby, what's so fascinating to me? Now? My son, I tried to show him how to shoot. It's so comfortable playing the video games with the shooting. Oh he shoots and kills everything. But when I actually gave him the real weapon to put in his hand, he was petrified. I think there's a fascination with these kids when they you because of

the video games and it's so real. But the real thing you don't realize you're not killing the character on the film, you're actually killing the person.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you're exactly.

Speaker 4

There is no there is no bridge in the middle to let you know reality from fiction. I don't. I think a lot of people just don't get that. I don't know. I'm not perfect. I don't know, but I just it seems so weird to me.

Speaker 1

It does with me too. And we don't even have like lots of lots of guns in Boston. I mean, of course we have guns, so I don't want people going, oh, you're full of it, but we don't. It's so hard to get a well, I should say, legalized guns, because it's so hard to get a license. But this kid just wasn't even it was so reckless. I don't know who in the world he thought he was shoot. I don't know if he even hit his intended target or

if he hit other people. But three people were shot, and they had to go to the hospital, all of them none of them critical, thank god. But you know, I don't know how the people in Florida dead. I couldn't find an updated article that said that they were released or whatnot. But a one year old being shot, that's catastrophic. Here.

Speaker 4

I can't even I can't even attack Florida. I was in as much as I you know, I love to go out to Florida. I can't because my home state, my hometown, Chicago, Illinois, was off the rails this weekend three day holiday weekend, Memorial Day weekend. Fifty one shot from ages which ranged from age two till seventy six.

Speaker 1

Can you imagine?

Speaker 4

No, and don't want to. And I love my city, but I have no intention of going to visit my city right now until they found out what is going on there. I don't know that this gruntleman. I don't know the anger or the bidding that people have, but two to they shooting old people and babies, Bobby, nothing is off limits. It is preponderously scary to live in some of these cities. And that is why I appreciated the time that I had in Ohio. It was just none of that.

Speaker 1

It was love, it was it was the reasoning.

Speaker 4

It was warming, it was calming, it was smiles, and I mean we embraced. They got some large white people in Ohio. Let me say, they got some very large white people in Ohio like everybody. Yeah, they and they all go together. Oh my god, I thought I thought I was challenging with my top and bottom.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, can you imagine the springs in that car?

Speaker 4

Could you imagine me trying to find your area when you're trying to find man? Good god, it must be.

Speaker 1

Like the fat slopping must sound like applause.

Speaker 4

Ooh give me. But they were. Everybody was so pleasant and so friendly. And I hate that the world is like that because we see all this vile and I think these kids just want to I don't think they try to outdo each other, but I do think that there is a copycad effect that if somebody is going through some and I went and killed a shot of a store with ten people, the next person, I got to out do that person. So they killed ten, I gotta kill fifteen. I don't know the mindset of the youth.

I don't and I don't want to know.

Speaker 1

No, I don't understand it either, but I feel it is reckless. I don't know if there's machismo, like they have to prove themselves to somebody. But this isn't the way. I'm back to what you had said. They have to realize what the consequences of using that gun are, how to use it correctly, and what the consequences are. But unfortunately, I don't see that happening until we get have some sort of gun reform or gun control.

Speaker 4

And what happened to me for me, Bobby, I think that when during the pandemic, when the kids were stuck at home for two years, a lot of them, the video game was with them for eighteen hours hours, right, twenty four hour day and if all you're doing a shooting and killing, and some of these video games are

extremely violent, and you know my children have them. I can't even last that my kids have and I'm looking, I'm hearing the language and they raping women and killing women and blowing a lot of these kids do not know how to differentiate the truth from them, and it just it carries over into real life and it's very scary for us.

Speaker 1

It is. It's crazy, especially if they have no one's flamed. So you're a parent and you're at home, and you could if you hear something you don't like, you could combat it and say, now, listen, you know that's not But some kids don't have that. You know, there isn't anybody at home or that can kind of show them the way. It's super scary. You are afraid to go out to go to revia beat. I mean, I just

can't of imagine. So the beach is down below the water, in the sand and you kind of sit on the wall and people have pizza and stuff like, and you can't even do that.

Speaker 4

The fear of going to public beaches was what a shark bite, a mosquito bite, somebody drowning, you.

Speaker 1

Know, not on someone's booze bottles.

Speaker 4

Yeah, not not, no, not in any of this. The world has changed so much for for horror, and as much as we have much more information and fingertips, I kind of wish we did. I sometimes kind of wish that we did not.

Speaker 1

You know, it's true now that the news over the past twenty years is you know, it's a cook of a button. Then with social media, it's a it's a second you know, you don't have to actually look it up. It's just feeding continuously. It is scary.

Speaker 4

It is scary. It's not getting any better.

Speaker 1

No, I don't see it getting any better. Did you see Chris Christy and Mike Pence are are a seto announced they think next Tuesday and put their hat in the ring for president.

Speaker 4

H Yeah, I just thought Chris christ I wouldn't vote for Mike Pins that he was a Wools last year, and I would not vote for Chris Christy because Chris Chris is wished she washed it to me. And when I say that, I actually liked him before that bridge incident, and I liked him before he allowed Trump to walk over him. And then he found himself and now he's the biggest advocate after Trump. But it's too late. The damage has been done because you kissed the brass ring.

That is why I have no respect for Chris Christie. You can't be you can't play both sides against the middle for me, I don't I know.

Speaker 1

Exactly what you're saying. If I had to choose between the two, though, I got to tell you, I'm going with Chris CHRISTI.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, I would go if I had to choose between those two. But I think those two will even make the ticket. Let me just be honest.

Speaker 1

No, I think they're distracting, But I mean it's better than DeSantis. With his audio announcement, that was the weirdest thing I ever heard on I don't know if Elon Musk owns them, but he certainly has his live streaming. Elon has got problems with it. Because there are more glitches than that.

Speaker 4

That announcement, well, that was because Ron de Santas don't want to debate. Rond de santa is not good at debating, and he gets frazzled because Andrew Gilliam tore his ad separate the Bates when they were running for governor. He can't handle a debate. He cannot handle the confrontation. He's not good with the confrontation.

Speaker 1

It's an opportunity lost, though, don't you think for him? I mean to get your puss out there. He's a decent looking man. It's not like he's quasimotives kid and be able to announce it. Nobody will be arguing. Maybe you'd have some heckler's I don't know, but I think his people would take care. I don't know. An audio that just seems.

Speaker 4

Speaks volumes to the character that he does not have. Because y'all let it go after Joe Biden. They let it go out to Joe Biden.

Speaker 3

He on it.

Speaker 4

He Oh, Joe Biden ain't scared of the debate. Joe Biden ain't scared to stand up your head. And for the most part, he remembers all his words.

Speaker 1

Well, he mostly does, and if it don't, he comes back to it. God bless YadA says he's getting older. The only thing I can say about Joe and I feel badly because I have a friend that has a stutter, that it's easy when you can train yourself when you're younger, and as you get older you have to think about it more so you don't. And the worst thing that he could possibly do as an older UH candidate is stutter. So I do see him with his language. He's a

little slower and more calculated because he wants to. I think he just wants to make sure he doesn't have any mishaps. That way, to me, he's getting the he's getting the job done. Not according to Bill O'Riley, who thinks he's the leakest president in history.

Speaker 4

Other than I will take I will take the stutter over the hate. I would take the stutter over the hate.

Speaker 1

Absolutely. He's He's not somebody that you're ever going to get hate with. He's he's a compassionate, real person who's had life tragedies himself. And I don't feel like he's throwing them at you, But when he reminds you, it's that he's really saying, I understand. You know, I've been there and I and I understand, and I am so sorry that this is happening to you too. So but I thought that I thought Chris Christy was interesting since the last time I spoke with you.

Speaker 4

That but I like, I liked Chris Christie before the bridge incident and then I did. I liked him before he jumped on the Trump bad where he drank the kool aid. But now he has let the kool aid run out of him and he's doing something else. I don't like the wishy washed. If you were gonna be with Trump, be with Trump. If you're gonna be against Trump, be against Trump from jump. I can't take the back of That's like Fauci Falaci was signed off with Trump

and then he had the name. I can't. I can't trust that because I think for Chris.

Speaker 1

He wasn't listening to him at the end, and then when all of a sudden, the last three weeks of the presidency, when he started doing the really crazy stuff that was I think he just washed his hands and like this guy is He's just not going to listen to a goddamn thing. I will say I love Chris Christy when he debates or and he goes back and forth,

because I think they have a true friendship. With John of Brazil on this week on the Sunday Morning Show, they are hysterica together and she holds him accountable and he holds her so I but she is such a smooth way.

Speaker 4

I love her. Speaking of Chris Christy going back and forth, would that be the donut shop or Kristy Kremes or the people? I know?

Speaker 1

God bless him. I think he had that surgery. Blesses a little high.

Speaker 4

I had the surgery right that he should want the subway ahead. A tune it sounds with year.

Speaker 1

Eida Carrot or something. The poor guy that shows that he really uh, he doesn't do too well with the with the stress or whatever that it kind of gets one. Who is the other candidate that already announced? Was it Tim Scott who had already announced?

Speaker 4

What do you think? Look who Tim? Yeah?

Speaker 1

I don't know much about him who other than he's kind of got a gummy smile, you know, whenever I hear his name and what, oh the guy with the gums. I don't know, he doesn't there's nothing that he has said, so far, that's that's interested me.

Speaker 4

He has been the pawn for that, for that party for such a long time. He is just to me, he is herschel Walker with an intelligendiction.

Speaker 1

Oh, I was just gonna say he's better than the herschel Walker.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean it was his addiction, but his philosophy and his ideology ain't much off. He is herschel Walker with an intelligendiction.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's he actually went to his classes and got the education. So so far this I don't think there's absolutely anything that's in there other than that that's interesting about the presidency.

Speaker 4

Well, if here on something that's interest. The House just secured the votes to pass the dead ceiling bill to avert default.

Speaker 1

They did.

Speaker 4

Okay, good, that sounds wonderful for the economy and for the country to hold on that we ain't gonna break. But there you got it. There's another side. There's a side effect to that bill, y'all. And if you are of a certain age and you are on EBT or whatever. Now they're not adding no new government programs, they're not adding no new social government program but in two years

they will be allowed. And they saying two years but if the ron don ticket get in, it won't be two years because they use the executive order all the time. They will switch that. So if you are of a certain age, you're gonna have to work and capacity not to just to get EBT. And if you don't work twenty hours of week, according to the rules, you have to wait three years to reapply. So it's Bobby our age. We had to go work to get eb T and I'm like, I don't want to work this week, and

I did. If I fall short, I would have to wait a whole another three years, yes, to reapply because I didn't do what was required of me to get my EBT. It is. It is a lot and no new taxes on the rich, nothing on the reach. They still get away with everything.

Speaker 1

It is. There are a lot better the angry though on the Republican side, there was a ref Dan Bishop who wants to vote to aust McCarthy because he feels that he wasn't he didn't do too much. What I think that he's failing to This is an extortion, you know. This is there's supposed to be We're supposed to pay our past bills. The debt sailing is money that we already owe out, so you've got to pay your bills. It should never have been held that to begin with.

Talk about politics being played. Nobody ever should have said, you give me this and then we'll sign up, so we pay our bills. They should have just paid the goddamn bills. Should we get a hold of our spending? Absolutely, it's out of control. It's under the Republicans as well. Nobody has dealt with it that much. So, I mean, they're gonna they're gonna do some things. They're going to claw back some of the COVID relief. I think there was twenty eight mil billion that hadn't been allocated yet.

They're keeping five billions so that in the COVID so they can continue to examine and research vaccines and how we can prevent or try to eradicate COVID. They're going to cut some money for the Internal Revenue Service. Uh that those monies we're going to we're going to go to like customer service, you know, ways that would help

people be able to use the service better. It does maintain climate and clean energy, although they're not very happy about that, the Republicans, and it's expediting pipeline in West Virginia and that will so that will stay. So it's sort of you know what it if I can give you a positive spin. There was compromise made on both sides. That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to be with the two parties working together. This is what

people are being. The Democrats hired on Biden. Biden came in saying that he wanted to work in a bipartisan fashion, reach across the aisle, bring people over and work. So, yes, he had to compromise as well. I'd like to see it past the Senate and get our bills paid. It would have been catastrophic as we know. If it didn't pass, we would have lost our credit rating. And some people say,

big deal, Well it is a big deal. We can't borrow money, just like you when you don't pay your bill, you're not going to buy a car at a lower, lower interest rate. You have to pay more. We don't want to pay more as Americans for the money. So I'm glad, I'm thrilled. Thank you very much for keeping me, keeping me in the loop.

Speaker 4

Bobby Cliffin is to me and hear me, and hear me will. This is why it is so important for Americans to vote and to vote your present. I always say that I'm not trying to vote my future. My future looks bleak, my present is. My past looks very scary, but the present is the scariest thing that we are living in right now. You don't need to worry what's going to happen tomorrow. You got to get pasted today.

Speaker 1

It's true. The only thing I worried about was the climate stuff, because that is for it's not going to affect you or me as much, but will affect grandchildren, you know, if we don't if we don't stuff to clean up stuff. So I was thrilled. I mean, what the Republicans wanted deeper spending cuts in stricter work requirements. They wanted more so they didn't get that. And they wanted to repeal billions of dollars that President Biden has already put out there to transition to lower lower emissions.

They didn't get that. We wanted to raise taxes on corporations and high earners. We didn't get that. And we also didn't get something that Biden was really pushing for. I think he's going to come back around and do it in a different way. He wanted to take steps to reduce medicare spending on prescription drugs. He's already done it, and he wanted to do it in other ways to try to bring costs down.

Speaker 4

Flamance and people out there and laugh and learn, laying please hear me and hear me well. I am a staunch Democrat, but there are a lot of Republican values that I agree with. I know a lot of y'all ain't be saying this, but there are a lot of Republican values that I agree with. The problem is not the Republican values, it's the Republicans that are delivering them.

They are the assholes. I would love to be able to work on the strings trail home Brown to take care of my family, but you have to afford me an equal opportunity to do that. That is the problem, the racism and the hate because of color or gender or whatever. If you want me to be able to take care of me and my family fairly, then give me a fair opportunity to be able to work and do that. That's all I'm asking. I like the whole I don't want to be the crutch. I don't need

a crutch. I've had a crutch before. I want to be able to work off the strength of my brow, my talent. And when I say this, when I talk about Republicans, I'm not just talking about Republican Party. I'm talking about even with my own community. You can't expect me to be this, that, and the third. And you want me to be who you want me to be, but you don't treat me fairly. I have to take care of my family. Did you consider my feelings when you tried to take things away from me? So why

would I not consider your feelings? You have to do that. And I'm not talking to no one person in general. I love that the Republican Party pushes These are your children, these you work for them. We're going to make sure you're taking care of you got their housing. But we need to be fair. Now a lot of Republicans don't think like that. God do I miss Ron Paul? God do I miss Ron Paul. He was the greatest Republican to me, the.

Speaker 1

Old I miss all the old. So that on the Democrat side, I miss Tiff O'Neill, I miss Teddy Kennedy, the people who could literally reach across and bring people over. They would duke it out on the floors of Congress in the Senate during the day, and then they'd be out at night having oh plan, let's go for dinner. You're go into Bill's steakhouse. They didn't actually hate each other, They just had different ideologies and they fought for their constituents.

Now I feel like the constituents are last. I feel like it's something personal and they're a special interest. Were more and what's being fought for rather than the people that elected them.

Speaker 4

Which is why there are people like myself and Bobby Cliff and to bring the world together. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, me and Bobby don't always agree on everything, but you will never know it. That's because i'd be our private conversation. But but where you find the common ground is what America was supposed to be made on. You were supposed to find a common ground and say, hey, we may not cook the meal the same way, but we can eat at the same table.

Speaker 1

That's exactly right. Just talk about the American dream. Flame. When you were in Ohio, everybody at a function getting along, not talking about everything else. The focus was on family and fun and that's how we use that's how we used to be. And then your your political ideology. We actually we didn't even talk about it before. Now I feel like people wear buttons when they go out. You know, I've got my neighborhood Trump twenty twenty four already on

the lawn. I'm like, it's only twenty you know, this is before he even said he was going to run. You know, we didn't have that. It's it's unfortunate. I wish, I wish we'd come back. I love I've got some of my best friends are are Republicans. We just they have different ideology. Less government for some reason. They don't mind being in our uterus, but but less government for everything else. And that's okay, But I think we need more.

So I have a special needs sister. I see what what not having means can do, and I feel like we need to at least take care of our weaker party, the elderly and the special needs.

Speaker 4

That and and I'm at it and that number one. Number one, so disregarding to the people who have put their lives on the line, lost limbs, lost their minds, you know, they still live and they don't know they lost their mind, they lost they lost their ability. They will to want to have to fight, to want to fight because you took it. They went over there and they did all that they need to do to help this country, and then when they came back, you treat

you discarded them like trash. I think the Betters are probably more peed on than than black and brown people in this country. And that's say it, that's say I.

Speaker 1

Agree with that. I think especially medically. So you go to the VAS and they have some of the best collisions at the VAS, but nobody were not fully taking care of bills. And when I say that, it costs money if you don't live near the VA and you have to go get a hotel because you have to. You know that you have to go to the VA for something we should be covering whatever that cost is.

The kopeys, the parking, the you know, these people don't have a dollar, they don't have a pot to so many of them exactly exactly.

Speaker 4

And then they suffered no mental illness. They suffer from PTSD because they have experienced They walk me and you walking down a field and you blow up next to me. I have to live with that. I have to live through that. I have to live past that and hope that I don't step on You know, it's so many things that people don't consider, but it's just this is the world that we have created to live in.

Speaker 1

It is I will say that they that as far as funding for what I could read that they're not touching anything with the veterans. What President Biden wanted to do those He wanted to grow the program, and I don't know if they're going to give us the money to grow the program. You know, we have to keep non defense spending under or at one percent. I don't know if that's part of the one percent or if they would consider that defense spending. It should be, it

should be part of the defense. But you know, we can't just be building bombs and trucks to send these boys and girls over with. That should be part of the full package.

Speaker 4

That's when y'all building bombs, a million dollar planes and shit that don't work. They don't never even get off the ground or they don't work. So usement all this money on a weapon that you don't work, and so when you get frustrated with it, you sell to another country they perfected and then use it on us. Oh that's next week's topic. Okay, listen, listen. Arms war didn't saw with us you. I only decide the arms. Well, you got to go all the way back to Oliver

North and Ronald Reagan for that one we got. That's a whole other subject.

Speaker 1

Y'all.

Speaker 4

Don't give me to remind of y'all, because you know I didn't had an edible. I'm feeling I remember everything right now. Listen, ladies, yell, thank you so much for joining us here, living laughing. I'm hoping that with this podcast that you come in here for the open a free man to listen, to learn, because I surround myself with people that teach me that I learned from, include which includes Bobby Cliff, which is one of my favorite

hoses on here. I am not the smartest person. I know y'all think that I am not, and some things I am uninformed about. But I am a sponge that is willing to take it in if you're willing to give it to me. That's the problem. A lot of y'all has closed your sponge hope, so you won't learn.

Speaker 1

It's the truth. That's all you want from somebody. What you want someone who's got unbelievable common sense like you have and a willingness to learn right. And that's about a lot of these subjects when we're discussing that we're going to talk about, I have to look them up, but I'm willing to and it's interesting. And then I kind of peel them back on my own time and see if I can get more information. So yeah, that's how this is our opinion.

Speaker 4

That's because you got the assignment by because here at Laugh and Learn, we are not trying to get you to change your mind. We are only trying to get you to use your mind, because their mind is a terrible thing to waste. Some of y'all waste my time and your man, and please don't because I ain't got no damn for your time or your man. But I love that you guys come. This is our three three

years in we have been having the best time. I think my one of producers is to Aaron, who always keep us on even keel even when I'm backwards, and my great co host Bobby and sometimes TTG. I appreciate that you guys come in hit me with information we transfer because that's what Laugh and Learnt Coffee time was always about a transfer of information. I can't teach you and you can't teach me, and we're not listening to

each other. That's the truth. So thank you for joining us here at laughing on Bobby cliff that's my too, yut, that's too thank you. I think I may you love lounge.

Speaker 1

Maybe oh you're a liar, gonna it's gonna really kick it in a few minutes. You'll be looking for a snack and then your bed.

Speaker 4

Maybe nothing, Where's something come between the snack and to be well, there you go. We ain't talking about that right now. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Listen to me. Follow Bobby Clifford on social media at Bobby Clifford on Instagram, on Facebook, where else you at, Bobby that's.

Speaker 1

Really I mean that barely on those, but that's right.

Speaker 4

And follow me on YouTube at Flame Monroe, Instagram at Monroe Flame you Facebook is market Flame Monroe Parker, Twitter, ex Flaming Row, TikTok, explain my role one two five and if you can go and download and watch my video of me doing Tina Turner in two thousand and two, I did a whole production. Just type Google or type me Inflame, my roll, Tina Turner and you pop. It

was a great production number. God I see wish I had those legs, but it was great, and it was it's in great memory of a legend that we have lost. We have lost so many legends, but Tina Turner was one of the absolute best. She was simply the best. I think that's what we should call this podcast, simply the best. She was simply the best, better than all the rest. And I appreciated her and I love doing her. And if you guys want to book me hit a bit yup, I'm ready. Thank you Bobby Cliff for note,

Thank you Flame Matt, Thank you. Laugh and Learned World, don't miss an episode of Laugh and Learn.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 4

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