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think you want to revisit. So your first take a list of your folks. Say it's lit ah folks that we take it to. No kiss, do what you don't, No kiss, do what you do, can't no kiss, do what I do. Welcome to laugh and learned ladies and gentle good do, good morning, good evening, good something wherever you are, it's good because I'm good, I look good, I smell good, to feel good all that. Oh you're nice and so that's wait a minute, that's Lauren Hogan, Dude Godfrey, were come to get you in a minute.

Let's bring on our other partner. They need to introduce themselves. I'm Flame Monroe, by the way, who is this and I'm Lauren Hogan. That's Laurie Laurie Hogan. Hello, Nick, how are you? You know? I'm loving that old Laurie thing. Yes, people are actually starting to call me Laurie. So got started something. How are you? How is your day? Nick? You're ready? I'm ready. I won't lie to you. I'm excited about Godfrey. You know, we were talking about it all week because I got a chance, I know, like

so many other people did. I got a chance to check out they ready to and Godfrey absolutely killed it Nigeria. So it's ridiculous. You know, you know he from my hometown. You know he's from Chicago. I know that. Yeah, I know that. His impersonations are literally second to none. He's one of the best. He does a fantastic um uh President Trump. So I'm just gonna sound out, no ex President Trump say this ship right. If you're gonna say it, don't be working with my page. I think he's the

only one that people are calling an ex president. Everybody's like former president or just calls them a president. He's the only ex president tell that in his own words, I said that you're fired. So that's just one of several great impersonations he's got, so I'm excited to hear him actually come on and join us and talk about everything that's going on in his life. Well, we're glad you came to join us. This morning, Mr Smith goes to Washington and you're not here in the studio with us.

And unfortunately, after this week, we won't be allowed to come to the studio either because COVID restrictions. So they're sending out equipment to me and Lauren, and we're going to have to do it from home or do it from somewhere like you're doing it. But me and Lauren will meet up together together and when you come in, maybe we'll all do it from the garage, from the love lounge. That would be That would be awesome. So starting next Monday, I didn't know that that it was

that the announcement you talk about. Is there another announce that's announcing We got news today that today as I last closing down this studio. And it's gonna make me lazy because this is like a job to me. It makes me get up, it makes me dress up and come to work because y'all know at home, I'm laid out with a cookie hanging out of my mouth and a couple of facial hairs right there because it's my problem area. And yeah, so but so so let us know,

will we will we get the full flame effect? Yes, well, I was saying, I was paid for a service. Yeah, I don't want to see him they paid for Are you for hire? I've been a hole for years. I used to say on the street. Now I'm selling on stage, and I used to be on the streets. Y'all said that it was a shame. I sold dick ties on the street. Now we're selling it on the mic. Hey, it's just different, got a little different. But it was so much more fun when I could walk up down

the street jiggling. You know what. It's funny you would mentioned that because you know, this isn't one of our topics for this week, but New York literally just band uh. There was a law on the books that you could not be trans walking back and forth down the street because it was considered a distraction or it could be interpreted as solicitation. Solicitation and it literally Cuomo just struck it from the books. That was one of my topics.

I was going to mention that to you, so now you are no longer it is no longer illegal to walk in New York while being trans. I didn't even know that was a law. I didn't you know how many do you know how many of my training holes that walked the street from but but you know it was.

It was often deemed that if you, if if one of ample proportions like yourself, where to stop and just start to engage with someone, it could be interpreted as go back, Rewhan, what is the ample proportion a certain curvature? You know, so you know it could be distracting and people might think that, um, you know it was you weren't necessarily in your way to church. Kudos to Andrew Cuomo for that. Ladies and gentlemen. We have made major strides,

uh in the trans community, and I hate to. I hate to point this out, but I'm gonna have to since I since I need to, and you know, I don't give a two damn rats, ask about what you think we have made such a major strides. Michael Chi did a joke last Saturday on Saturday Night Live about the transgender lift on the military that Joe Biden lifted the transgender ban on the military and the joke was don't ask, don't talk. First of all, let's start at

the source. The joke wasn't funny worth for damn, it was as bad as the one that wasn't named. Then when she had Donald Trump's he had cut off that ship wasn't funny either. Let's start there. As comedians, you have to know what it is funny and what it's not funny. The joke wasn't funny. But we can't get upset with Michael ch about saying don't ask, don't talk. When drag Race has had a very successful show on on RuPaul's drag Race called Untucked for eleven seasons or more.

That is wildly successful. We have to draw the line on what angers us. I'm I would be more offended if you see that I wasn't tucked and you could see what's dangling, because then you'd be mad. Chuck, there's a beautiful thing if you if that ain't what you're into, but you know eventually, if you're laying up with a trans girl, she's going to unroll and untucked and what you're saying the battle exactly. So I did it write up?

What was the young lady's name? I did right up with Cynthia cynthiaself, but did it right up on NBC. They called me to interview me about it, and I gave them my true opinion because to me, the ass on Superman's chest has never still for Superman. It has always stand for self reliance, self awareness, self assurance, save yourself. All of these words started with the words self. It's about who you see looking back at you in the mirror.

Michael cheated ship wasn't funny. Let's let's start there, baby saying night laugh, I definitely want to say laugh from New York you saidurday night. But let's start with some of these people y'all got on there. I'm gonna move on with that one. Let's let's move on and that's also recognized. I think it's a perfect transitions for us too. We always said we wanted to start every show in February recognizing moment in black history. And I think I'm

gonna start with something that I realized. Um and Flame you already know this. But one of the things that kind of encouraged me and inspired the career that I made in television was Bryant Gumble. Brian Gumble was the first African American to be selected for a morning national broadcast. It was common to see black people doing local television, but no one had ever been on a national stage doing a morning show until Brian Gumble. So he was the first selected to do a morning broadcast. And that

was a big deal. That today show. Now we don't think about it because we see Robin Roberts, we see Michael Strahan, you know, we we see African Americans all the time. We see my favorite Gayle King. But so it's commonplace now, But there was a time when that was considered a bit edgy to have a black face popping up in your living room in Middle America, you know, a long way to say it's itching. Come on, Lauren,

what what you about to say? No, I just think that I'm not okay with how many black you know, anchors that we have today. You know, Abby Phillips just got her show on CNN. Interestingly enough, um, I was actually at n a b J last year for those who don't know. It's a National Association of Black Journalists and uh, they have an awards component to their programming

that they have for the weekend. And CNN was, uh, you know, given the award for lack of diversity and not actually having people of color in positions other than you know, Don Lemon is the only one we really see. Ye don't care what are you doing? So I'm to write, but I mean, I'm just saying that to say I'm not I don't think that we have enough black anchors honestly in news where it's happening more and more today. I mean, like you said, it's not as uncommon, but

I don't think it's enough. And Brian Gumble, let's let's go back. You know why Brian Gumble got the job. He had a great personality first of all, and he was a handsome man. But he was very fair, skiing with good curly hair, and he was very articulate with his words. He had a fantastic vernacular. Understand that had he been a big black brother, uh even attractive, he might not have gotten that job. That's when you always

talk about that whole light skinned, dark skinned thing. If he was a big, darker skinned black man and could have been exceptionally attractive, he might not have gotten that job. Yeah, it was an easier pill to swallow. Is kind of the analogy that we can draw there. So, yeah, you know, that was just a moment in black his red one to recognize and I know that we have others. Yeah, let's talk about it. I mean, I saw the video. I know Flame you saw the video, and I think

Nick you did too. Kamala Harris officially broke, you know, the first tie in the Senate and I was so elated and so happy. She had the mask on. I don't know if it ready also, I think there was a little smirk on her face breaking that time. I was like, yes, do it. Let me do it for y'all. Let me give it to y'all. Let me give it to you. I got my mask on purpose. Let me let me give it to y'all. Look there, So this

is Kamala before they made the announcement. This is Kamala when they made the announcement that she broke the death She was snickering. She kiss I love it and I was happy to see it, you know, because they got one point nine trillion dollar COVID relief package past. Now it's not inacted yet because now it has to go to the Budget Committee and they've got to figure something's out. But the Budget Committee has now ran by Bernie Sanders. And what Bernie did too was that everybody's fired. I'm

bringing in my own people. We're gonna make this work. So I'm excited. You know, the Senate, these different committees that we got, Now we got some gangs is on the committee. Let me Bernie, Bernie Sanders, that was a gangster move him and then him and Nancy too. Oh they liked Bonnie and clad real old gangster diaper way and they're thing, oh my god, I love it. Okay, Nicholas, I have to bring my boy because he's gonna come

on and talk. So tell me. Because you know about Godfrey before I told you that Godfrey was coming on, you're a fan because Nicholas loves comedy. That's what y'all know. Love comedy. And and to be fair, you know, you and I talked about I loved Godfrey show. I think Godfrey and I forget Godfrey's sidekick, uh Asian American guy name, but he is equally as funny and they just play well off of each other. They really do um and he has a young woman on their attractive sister as well.

From time to time. It's just a solid group. And Godfrey does a great job of blending current events and politics um and mixing in humor at the same time. Godfrey also does late at night, so I make sure you're ask him about this. What is he doing up at one am? There are times when I get up in the morning here Central Standard time Zone and Godfrey is up him and his girlfriend doing things on I G Live, and I'm like, when does this brother sleep?

So absolutely, Godfrey's beast. Absolutely. Okay, So we're gonna bring Godfrey, Nick, We're gonna be You're gonna rejoin rejoining us after the conversation. I'll see you all after the conversation. Needs you to do the feedback on the on the the comments because from my other glass, I got my phone right here, show me a text. We got it, you got alright, alright, guys, Okay, so later we're gonna bring on to the stage right now, on to the show. My friend, um comedian Godfrey. You

can see him now. He's featured on Tiffany hattrish Is They're ready to He is from my hometown of Chicago, and he is as ignorant as I am, if not more. And I said what I said, And he was the host of Tiffany's tour. They ready to last year or year before last. He did it and he was fantastic. And the first show we did that I did with him was in Vegas and I was shook. I was shook by the massive size of the stage and Godfrey pulled me to the side and say, look at here.

Don't think of it like that. Go out there and talk to the first row and get the ship done. Every five shows after that, I killed every last one, only because you gave me such great Avid. Hello, God, what are folks? Was up? Okay? This is my partner, Lauren Hoban, And Lauren was going to your boy that I appreciate his Uh, don't be flirting with my girl a Laurena over here either, guy for your black gass. Uh look a little. It's all good. It's all all

my training girlfriends already in my inboxes. Flame dude with Godfrey, I said, girl, let me tell you something. He don't want you. I know this nigg don't want you. Then they're gonna talk to you, but he don't want you. Well, before we get started, let's talk about that video that you posted today. And what was the background on that video? Cutting up I did for about Tiffany. No, no, no no,

I'm talking about the video between you and Flames. What I thought, because I will touch you talking about my Instagram because I did know we're gonna get to that one. We're gonna get that one. Was we were on the road and I said, Flame, let's do a dist video, you know, and she goes, oh, let's just do one comedians and he brought out the inner gangster immediately, yeah, throwing up signs and everything else. Flame is from the West Side of Chicago. Don't get on sleep with the

west Side is real. My father taught on that side of town for forty five years. So when someone say they from the west Side, there's even better, you know what I mean. It's like I'm from the north side, but when they say west you go okay. But um, I just wanted to do that a little. I just wanted to do that as a as a as because we're comedians, and there were some people to say, oh, man, what are you doing. Man, you pushing the agenda. I go, that's Flame, that's one of my pushing. It's a comedian,

you know what I mean. We should be able to laugh about we have, but she's got to laugh about all of our differences in a in a good place. It doesn't matter, you know what I mean. We joke, she jokes on me. I joke. It's like, but it doesn't come from a hateful standpoint. And I'm not trying to appease anybody. I'm being for real. People should be able to live the way the funk they want to live, period. It said, Man, we're comedians. At the end of the day,

We're just comedians. Weren't gonna fuck. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, that's what we do. So it's like when you showed her to he was like, do something gangs do some gangs. I was like, what He's like, show the tis. I'm like, okay, but but flame can laugh at that. What are you mad about? She's laughing about that, you know. And what's funny is how the LGB critique community is mad at you when you just keep it, you keep it one hundred like which you did on

the Breakfast Club. You broke down the whole gay community ship and he was already mad at you, Like it's like they never satisfied you're you're your old schools And wait a minute, wait a minute. That don't be disrespecting a bit. I'm still young. Well we're both we're both young old school. Take that that sounds you know what I'm saying. We're both from the same school. So I'm like, you come from it when it was even harder. You came with a bunch of you when you were Chicago.

You came amongst all us men, like you know what I'm saying. And you came and we were like, oh, ship, you wouldn't give a fuck. Cats was trying to come at you, trying to and you you you held your ground like and this is when people didn't really come out. It's like, remember, do you ever meet Mario Cantone? I did. Mario canton has been a friend of mine for a long time. And Mario Mario and he's one funny man,

that's a funny dude. And he's gay. And he told me one time, he said, oh, it's so funny how the gay community now they're so he listened me. He said, there are a bunch of pussies, he goes. I came out when that was detrimental to my career. I came out. I didn't give a funk. I didn't hide nothing. I came out and I was like ostracized. He said, these people now they complaining a bit about nothing. He's like, where were you when I came out and I was

getting sucking ship up? He was breaking it down. That's why I get a lot of my information from you. I get my information from people who are from that community. Whenever I talk about those situations, you know so well. Yeah. I mean I've even told Flame too that I haven't met anybody from the transgender community like her. You know, she doesn't care about pronouns and it's not about, you know, the small things. She's an anomaly in a lot of ways. And I think that's why so many people love her

so um totally. He don't you say, she goes, I'm all of them, don't baby. We because he cast the check, she makes the money we spend. I know exactly who the funk I am come and slay because he could be a he because when he takes it's sometimes he's just a heat and then he goes back and forth. So sometimes I go and I go, you know, he doesn't care, doesn't care. They don't as long as you respect what the fun he does. It's the she for me because I'm her manager, so she makes the money.

So I'm always say she right talked to him. So let me tell you someone. When me and Godfrey with in the dress room that night, Tiffany had already come to Godfrey about doing they're ready to and yeah, and Godfrey was like, I don't know, I'm not shooting. I'm like, god, you should do it. You should do it, and he was like, I don't know, there's not enough time. I was like, God, it's going to be a game changer, Godfrey.

All the reviews from yours out now, Tip, Lauren and I were at the show to the show, okay, so we knew the elements and the earth winning fire that you was up against outside all you got. That's what they should have called it. They ready earth winning fire. She because it was sirens and alarms, helicopters and y'all kept I remember coming home after coming to the show and going on laught to tell the artist that it

was so challenging, challenging for you all as comedians. God for y'all did that ship and you held your composed. You were great, Godfrey, And I want to know, do you don't regret doing to do you do you you had to that man. Thank you for kicking me in the ask Tiffany. What was funny is when I said, I said, tiff I don't know. She goes, motherfucker you better take this. It got and she goes, she goes, I got a motherfucking plan. It's all about strategy, motherfucker you.

I was like, got you. She had me to agree on I said, got you. And and when I look at it now, it's just like, first of all, shout out to want the Psykes and her company and page a page, the fact that they really and I love when I tell people, you know, it was outside, they're like, what outside? Imagine if it was indoors, you know how the destruction that would happened in that bitch and we

killed it on the outside and blush. Remember we were a little bit separated from you guys because the tables were spread out, so it was it was a lot more air, you know, it wasn't as enclosed. So we were thank god that everybody was a veteran and we were able to just do what what we needed to do, because first of all, I wanted Tiffany to look good. This is on her reputation. This is her brand and I want her brand to be able to keep going.

You know, so we out to go, Okay, I need we need to We need to bring the motherfucking pain because this is just good for Tiffany and this will get her to Hey, I'm doing another season. It is for other people, you know what I'm saying. So I'm glad it came out good. Everybody's and you know what's great? Man, It's so crazy because Tiffany has hooked up twelve comedians in a year and a half. I'm count one twelve.

That is unheard of amongst our African Sorry to said, African American comedians are fucking horrible at at looking out for each other. We always beef in We're the only ones in the comedy community that beef like rappers, like black comics. We'll we'll go on public forums to dog another comic out, Like you don't have to be a fan of a certain comedian, But why are you going on a public forum to tell say, someone ain't funny or someone that what is that to you? Like? Why

would you do that in a public forum? There are Asian comedians that some don't like each other but they never say it in the public form. There's Latino comedians they may not like, they don't say it in the public form. White comics they they'll they'll work with each other, not even like each other, just because they know they got a purpose. We are the only ones that take our personal bullshit and we'll say it on a fucking podcast or in an interview just to talk. It's it's disgusting.

So Tiffany is literally changing the goddamn game as far as her service and what it means to to progress, black progress for real, black girl magic for real. She's fucking proving that ship. And I remember in two thousand. I've known symphony since two thousand and three, so a lot of people are late. I've been knowing her longer than probably most people. When she came out of comedy camp, out of laugh Factory comedy camp. So she used to say this when she said, when I get to a

certain level. She never talked about buying a big house. She never talked about getting cars. She always said, you know, when I get there, I'm gonna help foster kids. I'm gonna have a I'm gonna get foster kids. Associated I'm like she wanted to help everybody. Then I'm gonna get my grandmother and my Grandmithers. Then I'm gonna get my sister. They're gonna get She always just talked about helping people. Man,

just I'm going to help, help, help, help help. She still has the same house that I would that I would sleep in her, babysit her dogs, I would house sit her dogs. It's the same house. She doesn't. She talks about helping, that's all. She's always wanting to help. And she gets such a joy when she sees other people shine. Rare shit, black woman, black woman every day something. The year En, he started in that it's the year

of the black woman, that year the woman of color. God, for you know, I was over women, by what you said. And Tiffy had only been a star technically since for four or five years since because when she introduced me, when bot redid my boobs, that was Tiffany Hatters and said, welcome to the stage, the queen, she was virtually unknown. And then girls trip dropped. The game was over. It was a Tom Brady All damn day was Tom Brady,

Pauler Tom Brady. As much as I hate Tom Brady, Tiffany's tom Brady tom Brady, because everybody's going to score. She's going to get the ball to you. She gotta play. You're gonna be, You're gonna score. I don't give up. What's your talent, what's your level is? Ye're gonna get the ball. And it's not like a hook up like you know, you know some comments, so hook their friends up. Give him a little time here, as long as they

don't do too much. Tiffany literally is pivoting everybody's career. Like, no, you're gonna your ship's about to change, bro. She put us on an international fucking stage. I got people from Germany because I travel overseas. I got people from Germany, friends from Germany, Amsterdam, Saudi Arabia, all the countries I've been to, going it's about time, man, like unshut like what this is what Tiffany did. Yeah, and I'm gonna continue to say that. And the way and the passion

that I have for it, it's real. She did this ship man, because you act aggressive. My mom aggressive almost turned down if I didn't know that I'm messing with you. See, it's remble people. People don't do this kind of ship well well let's get into you though. Well, let's get it well, you know, we love Tiffany, but we want to talk about you though, and some of the inspiration

that you've had behind comedy in general. You've been in the game for a very long time, so talk to us about how you got your start and really what was your inspiration behind you, you know, deciding to take on his career. Well, my start flame those we were all around Amateur Night the same around the same time. Shout out to all jokes aside to Williams, I know was flame since nine. So shout out to George Wilborn. Shout out to George Wilborn, Shout out to Bernie Mack.

These are these are these were are people that got us, that that let us get stage time. Um um all of us. Dean Cole, Corey holcum uh Chicago, d Ray Davis, Um, Lisa Ray, Lisa Ray was Lisa McCoy. She was she was at the Amateur Yeah. So, um, I was inspired in college. I went to University of Illinois, was a pre med psychology major. I got my degree in psychology and I was like I wanted to I told my parents, like my Nigerian parents that I'm gonna be I'm gonna

do comedy. Because Tommy Davidson had come to the college, had done a show at the college. I saw Ricky Harris, Tommy Davison, and I saw yes, Rick Yeah. I saw Eddie Murphy too. I saw Eddie Murphy and concert, which is fucking crazy. I saw Eddie Murphy and I was like, I was inspising because Eddie Murphy was our like our generation. We were like Eddie Murphy too, a comedy to a rock star level. Not just because Richard Pryor, which Eddie

Murphy followed all his ship. Eddie Murphy made it cool, like to be in leather pants and take it to to be good looking, smart, funny black. You were proud to be black because he would shop on white people and but he was did it. He did it with charm. You like, That's who I want to be, you know. But in college, I wasn't trying to be Eddie Murphy. When I was smaller, I didn't think I was gonna be a comedian. I wanted to be a baseball player.

I played baseball, you know, and football. I was an athlete, you know, and I thought it was gonna be an astronaut because I'm a science freak. So I'm thinking I'm gonna be a sign. I'm gonna be an astronom. Played baseball, I'm gonna be as because I had a lot of baseball ship and I had a lot of uh asked astronomy ship, you know. And so that, and so when I got to college, started studying psychology the whole nine. I was always interested in human behavior and how the

brain works. And then I got real militant too. I got very militant, uh because I went to a very white university. Uh forty five thousand students and eight hundred black students. That was all that was there. But we had all the fraternities. Delta, we had Delta A k A Sigma s g ro zeta fla beta mega's Kapita's iotified beta. We had all and we all stuck together like this. I became very militant. This is all leading to what I was doing. I used to go see

the minister, you know in Chicago ministers. I would go see the minister and just to listen to that. And you know, I was into the black history, the African history. I was that dude. I became I'm still that guy. And so when I was in college, I would always hold I would always hold you know the cafeterias where everybody's sitting around talking ship. But I was always holding it down, spitting about race and politics and but but I was funny with it. And then I was like, Man,

I said, I'm thinking I should do this comedy ship. Man, I think I need to do it, because I tried to do the premed ship. But the one thing I hated was when people tell me to be quiet. Oh why are you joking? You know I used to always get into with my teachers. I'm like, cause you're boring, you fucking said. But I was too vocal, And so I said, I need to try this comedy ship. And the girl that I was dating, it was a rebound ship. I had broken up with a girl on campus. It

was a rebound schick. And one day she wrote a bunch of ships that I was saying, I'm not bullshitting. Her name is Toya Dix, and I will never forget this and no toy Dixon because you know her. Do You know what's so funny is her daughter came to see in New York City. Her daughter was doing an intern the same girl that like was like the catalyst to me, going, you know what, when I get back to Chicago, I am better do it. She wrote out a bunch of ships that I was saying, say you

need to do that. You keep talking about doing comedy. You get back to Chicago, you need to do this ship. I said, you you know you're right. And her daughter. I saw her daughter two years ago at an internship. She came with her friends to see me at a show. How crazy is that? And then I tell her, I said, you know, your mother was part of me doing this whole comedy ship. You know what I mean? And so you know, do you remember when I was in a

comedy team. Now, she would have sucked you up if she would have told you that you was her daddy. I knew I wasn't her dadd because I know dudes. That day after I told how I didn't yo. So So did you were you there flame when I was in a comedy team. God, when you when we came out together, you stayed around for a little while. And the next thing I knew, you were in New York. And when you went to New York you never came back. Oh, yeah, I didn't um I had. It was t K Kirkland

that got me to New York. And you know, people say, oh, t K talk to him as I go, But t K is telling the truth because t K got me my first manager, and both of my managers, they're they both passed away, Rest in peace. My one. My one manager just passed away. They were a team. One of them passed away from brain cancer and my mother just died just he didn't take care of himself, but he just passed away. But they were great dudes. But t K Kirkland introduced me to them. When you know, you

know t K used to come to Chicago. I used to be on shows with him because t K liked me because I was college educated. I was different, I wasn't ghetto. He goes, you're you're so original, and that's another reason why I wanted to do because I knew I was gonna be different than everybody. I had a different angle, and so t K would work with me all the time. And t K said, man, you need to come to New York City. Man, I think you'll you do well. You need to get out of here

and go to New York. I said, all right. So I started just commuting out the comedy scene in New York. That's when I met Tracy Morgan, Dave Chappelle, Bill Bellingman, I met everybody, everybody from Death Jam. I was like, oh, shoot, audition for Death Jam, Bob something that never chose me. I auditioned five six times, murdered the ship, never chose me. He never chose me for some reason. Chose everybody around

Chicago but me. Me. I auditioned to got passed the audition at the Peppermint with Bill Bellant gotta standing ovation. But I was not willing to play at that time because I was gay and not blind. I also have a choice. I hate when me and say, oh, I don't want someone so looking at me. Nigga, I ain't nobody looking at your fat ass. I wasn't God for you knew me back when I was young, Nigga, I would shake the whole in a state with this body.

But I had choices, and the choice that I chose was not to do Death Jam because I didn't want to play that game. I just didn't want to play with that person. No not, you haven't said the name. I ain't say they name. I never out nobody like that. But that was But I remember the pepper The Pepperman was a dangerous place at that time. It was New Jersey. Remember Netflix Anniversary when Sheryl Underwood, you know she from Chicago to Sheryl Underwood went on stage and said she said,

y'all remember the motherfucking Peppermint Lounge. Everybody's like, oh yeah. I was like, it was the scariest, scariest place ever. I am not when you got when you when you got a date, Tina Graham, if you a date, you would think about that date the whole mother fucking year. You'd be like, dude, I got a date in my in May. I would think about it's it's January. I'll

be like, damn, I got hen Lounge. Good lord. It was killing you inside because Bill Bellamy, it was five d people in this big ass ghetto ass used to be stripped joint East Orange, New Jersey. It would be treached, would be the Naughty by Nature and the Knicks, we

Altoman and Bill Bellamy. If you bombed Bill with ship on you as you're getting on stage, on right in front and mind you, this is like they were like dope dealers and drugging, and at the time that I auditioned, east On, New Jersey was the car jack capital of the nation at that time, which was like ninety five. I think. So my imagine, I'm trains, I'm walking up and me and my girlfriend. My girlfriend was real passible. May she rest in peace. She looked like a woman.

I never looked like nobody's woman. You always knew that nigga banging. That's the nigga got some beautiful bodies, some pretty titties. But if you dropped the panties, you bettered up. Baby. When I tell you, it was so scary one. So when I for me to go up in their guy friend, I know just what you meant it was. I was terrified for because I thought if I wasn't good, they were gonna kill me, like for real. It's just just

it was like straight fear. That's why it's so funny when I see these black comics now and they're there there clubs, I go, you just say, ship this really really it's weak as fun because you have to understand we were coming up. It was Bernie D. L. Steve Hart. It was they were killers, Mark Curry, murderers, like simply marvelous, simply marvelous, simply look simply marvelous. What like straight killers?

Everybody murdered on stage. So this ship here now anyway, not knocking them, but I'm like, you didn't see fear until you came to the Cotton Club or the Click in Chicago with dope dealers and pimps and ship. This is what the fun we did. So so I get on stage right, very loud. I get on stage. I'm autist thing. Bill Bellamy goes this, next guy coming up, lady and gentlemen from Chicago got mad applause because Bernie Mack was rocking death Jam. You know, everybody respected Bernie.

So I got up there and the first joke I did. First of all, when you get on that stage, there's a mirror on the stage. It looks like they're more motherfucker's in there. So it's like you go, you go, damn, and you turn around. It's just thugs looking at you. The first joke you didn't there I'm talking about. I started talking about that group Crucial Conflict, Remember Crucial Conflict.

They started all that um that that fucking that fucking um that Southern They were more than they'd start kind of where the precursor to the Southern hip hop, because you know, Chicago's really southern, you know, And so they didn't remember that. Hey, in the middle of the barn was doing this ship. That ship. I was making fun of that, and I'm my fucking destroyed. I mean, I tell you how I killed that ship. And so they kept inviting me to the Peppermint Loud. I was like,

God damn it. I did it about nine times. And the one time I got booed that was one time I was getting comfortable because they were used to me. One time I got booed in that bitch was when this was talking shit about me. He said, man, you fucking corny blah blah blah, And I said, and I started cheating this dude up. But everybody knew the guy, and they said, you'll leave my man alone right now. I said, he's talked to me. They all start booing me,

like funk out of here, y'all. And I stayed on stage right and as they booed me, I did remember scar Face star Face, So I started acting like star Face at the end when he's getting shot, and I start doing that. They started laughing again. Then they booed me again. They laughed. They said, no, Godfrey, let me ask you a question, because the booing booing on stage, especially when you were name comedie. I love what you said about you got too comfortable going. That happens to comedians.

That happened to me one time. We're coming you. We we get so comfortable and we get so complacent that I got this. I'm gonna kill this. I didn't killed the seven eight times. Not remember that every show is a fresh new show with a fresh new zero from zero star from zero. And I'm telling you, I learned that lesson the way. I didn't get booed, but I crashed into a brick wall. It's just nothing worked, y, Yes it is. It was great training, but it learned.

I learned that we learned our lesson. But you know, um, I so I never did death comedy jack because I was talking to kid Kulpre not too long ago. He said, yo, God, he said, you never you did death jam Right said no, he said, get the you ain't never go. I said, they never picked me for death jail. I did. I was in a comedy team with a guy named Alexander Okay for like a year that's right before I met you, and we did. We opened up for a Dell Givens,

you know Dell from Chicago to we did. We opened up for Dell Givings and I remember we were working with Steve Harvey and and my partner was pissing me off, and I said, I'm sick of this dude. And Steve told me Steve was in the Hallway of all jokes, socide. That was when he was balding at the top okay, and he was like, he's like, he's like, what's what's the matter with you? I go, yeah, I just I'm just my boy. He's like high and drunk. He keeps

forgetting all the fucking lines and ship he goes. He goes, remember this ship, how about you getting for that? I said, we get like a hundred dollars. He tired of splitting that ship. I said, yeah, cut his ass. And from there that's when I went solo, Well, look at least hee gave you some good advice, because he'd be able to talk to that daughter anyway. Let me well listen, she may listen. She got the skin, baby, I don't know what card to be talking about with the wap.

She may not have a whop because they might not marry, but they damn show carried. I want meet some Lori Harvey. Lorie Harvey just mailed it to me. I want to borrow it for about three days. Wait a minute, she got Michael Michael B. Jordan, but maybe she got them all turned around. I don't know what she got down there, but the black girl magic is powerful. Godfrey, let me ask you a question, cause y'all know, y'all hear Godfrey talking ship and he had core real overly top. But

I've seen the sense of this size. It is a sensitive side, this nigga on lab. Was it yesterday or day before yesterday? If you have not seen that, you have to go to Godfrey's page, because I could share a moment that you probably please show when you were at Times Square and there was a billboard with your faith and your name on. I know that moment just like I'm reliving it because I I was. I came from Baltimore yesterday. I was doing the uh mcgooby shout

out to mcgooby's Awesome Comedy Club. And so we was on the road, me and Andre. So he's driving and said, he goes yo, you know your bill because Aaron Jackson took a picture and said, the billboard is in Times Square. I said, and if you're a New Yorker, you want to be in Times Square. Those billboards are so beautiful. Like you know, I've seen Tiffany a few times in Times Square. She live in l A. I go, tiff there's a giant billboard, and she goes, I always imagine that.

I always put that in my head that that was gonna happen, and she goes, just gonna happen to you. And I saw that yesterday and I said, and I made a video. It's my newest video. I said, Tiffany, you did that. You fucking did that. You did that. I've been here twenty years and I've never seen myself on a billboard here. I've tried, I've audition, I've done this.

That the best I've never in because of you. I'm up there, right up there, just at all tips, I said, Tom Brady, she just threw the ball and I got to score the touchdown. You know what I mean? I did mean it meant a lot to me because I was just in the street, like you fucking did that, yo, And I mean it's we saw all your emotions. I was just waiting on you to cray. Godfrey. I thought that was beautiful because I did that. I've experienced that same thing when we when I saw that Godfrey and

then the irony is. I was on tour with the Brole's campaign and we stayed in the w Right where we actually ended up staying there. So like two months later, I was back there, but I saw my name on that billboard gard that shook me a baby, the man and me Crab, the woman in me Crad and all all all of us. We was all over there, craw like a group on we was on cram ship. But it's such an overwhelming feeling because you're like, wow, I

made it to Broadway. You know so many people you know you know you know what I mean Like, and it's so funny because there are people that that that that are from that that network. We're like, we didn't even think of these people to choose, Like that's it's so crazy because Tony Woods a master of the game. Barbara Carlyle, I mean you took when she said, Barbara

carl I said, Tiffany, you're something else. Man. You went and grabbed Barbara Carlisle a beast A long time to remember Barbara Carlyle meeting her in Chicago, and she'd be like, I go, Barbara, so where are you going next? When I drive, I drove buck, I'll drop. I don't give it up. I'll drop everywhere. I love drive. I don't give ship. I don't give buck as long as there's money. I'm bunt. And I said, you're about to drive where

or I'm about to drive about ten hours. She was a road dog, like hardcore wrote and Tiffany just had to wear with all to find. Man, you don't meet people like that, dude. That's real ship. It is better than Santa Claus, Fu Santa Claus. They ain't got shipped on tips Santa Claus a black girl on Tiffany and I'm and I'm glad that that. I was part of her life as far as her improvement, because she goes Godfrey, you're the one that got me to this spot. I said,

you were just my friend. I didn't know you're gonna be a list. I didn't know you're gonna be producing it. I just helped you because you needed help. I didn't. That's just what I do. You know what I mean. I've done a lot of ship for comics that didn't have ship. Then they got shipped and after like they didn't know me. All good. That's just that's just you as a human being. You ain't ship, that's just you,

you know what I mean? And I skipped. I go whatever Tony Woods, who has done shipped for all of us, And you're just now getting something and you got it from Tiffany when there's a whole bunch of other motherfuckers that should have looked out for you been in one hundred. Because I do not like people who do not pay

it forward. That is how the reason why we're so stagnant as black folks, because we don't have people in the circle pushing it forward, going, yo, we we gotta Yeah, the people I'm saying, the people that you know, that you know will do the job. You don't just give people ship because they black fuck that you want people, You go, this person has been doing a long time, this person's they're good this They just need a little shot,

and and people go, yo, who do you need? That's how the white boys do it, and most and a lot of them be mediocre. I'm sorry, but guess what the motherfucker's be making moves, because first of all, when you're white, you're pretty much in already. But they help each other. And I know these white dudes. I know them. I know a lot of famous white dude and they look out for their crew, They look out on their podcast each other, They go on each other's podcasts did

and you know who's the most helpful. Now as far as African Americans, the Instagram kids, that's how my numbers went up. Shout out to Rennie, Shout out to King Batch, shout out to d Storm, shout out to all of those Instagram stars who who who were fans of mine and taught me to the social media game. And I watched them work with each other. I watched all of them. They're all twenty five, between twenty five and thirty, right, thank god, I looked the same age as them. That's

my age, you know what I'm saying. But I watched them in l A and New York, and I watched them work with each other. They all just go, yo, let's do this. They all just include they all get numbers. But I'm sorry, but our era, it was like mo motherfucker climb up the ladder. They pulled the ladder up because they're like, no, I can't, I don't And I'm not speaking for everybody. I'm just saying our culture is is like just one nig at a time. We gotta

get out of that bullshit. If we're gonna talk about black progress and being together, we have to do that ship when there's some mother fuckers that won't even won't even tag you and give you a little out on social media. This is you know what Tiff did though, guy, I think she has opened the door to show more men comics because comedy is still a very male dominated game. Uh,

show more male comics that you know what. You two can still be successful by giving somebody else the helping hand, because like you said, a lot of male comics will give somebody when you can open for me, you give me. But nobody has really pushed nobody to get those hours, specially now. Kevin did great for his camp. Kevin Hard did great for his camp. His team, all Joey Wales and all the men. Yeah they're great. And and Dave

Chappelle always reaches back to help people. You know, he hasn't had any other specially where he put people on. But I believe what Tiffany is showing him and showing so many others that they will. I think Steve Harvey Wheell, I think that you can entertain the wheel. I think even Jamie FOXXI, because Jamie fox has done before. Jamie FOXX has done stuff like that before. And those guys have the power to like do that like a little like they have used to do it. They've been famous

for a long time. They got juice where we're white, but everybody would be like, what do you need? They're at that, they're the what do you need? Negros? See I'm still the who's that guy? Like me? It's like this guy. But it takes you see what it takes, though, godfre It takes somebody to say you're okay, Godfrey. We all knew you a great comic. Everybody who follows you always knew. If they say you like me, but we knew. But sometimes it takes somebody in a position to say,

you know what this person is cool? They all right, give them a pass. Before Tiffany put me on, they ready I had comics that like me, but the male male people in the artist me and straight me and would be afraid to laugh with me because they were afraid that if they laughed with me or at my jokes, the stigma would be, oh, you laughing at that? You must be attracted to that. That stopped a lot of

my work. Back, Tiffany said, flame is all right, wand the page wand the sykes and page flame is all right. So now my new demographic of my audience is straight me and because you know, I talk about sex with me and sex with women. But and now they've allowed themselves to let down the screen and stop looking at what I look like and listen to what I'm saying.

God for you was always a part of that. You, d ray Davis, Evan Lionel, the owner of all jokes Aside, Raymond, you are always saw my talent more than you saw these titties. Even though when I was younger, I know y'all was looking, uh, but y'all always accepted me and embraced me for being who I am. I'm telling you, everybody is coming around to that. That's a great Even when they walk up and say, what's up, flame, nigger?

What's up dude? You know in the comedy cluse, that's how we talk as comedians and a lot of my translustors be like flame. They're disrespecting you, they offending you know, they're not. This is the comedy world. We got our own little world, We got our own little circle. And if you're not, if you're on the outside looking in it, you won't understand. You just won't. And my thing is this, the gay community will say, hey, you know we want to be treated like human beings. Well, guess what, when

we're fucking with you, you're a human being. Now, when we're fucking joking with you, we that's an acceptance in comedy. When we funk with you, whether it's racial jokes, whether it's that means you're being accepted. You can't you can't say you want to be accepted and then we can't joke with you. It's not making sense because comedy is like a vulnerability where you open up and laugh at

all the ridiculousness. You know what I'm saying. So it's like like when I do a joke about lesbians, right and I say it on perfect they go, you know, lesbians remind and people already I haven't even finished the joke. They hear lesbian Andy go, wait, I go Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Lesbian is the proper term, right, and that's what the L stand for, right? Lesbian's right? Is there another name? I need to know? No? Right, So

I go. It's so funny how you all are sitting up there champion the gay community, but I say lesbian and you're still reacting to it. So if you're supposed to make them feel comfortable, why are you reacting to the word lesbian? That should be normal. They're human beings. To me, I'm just talking about it. At least talking them from a bad place. At least you say last being my gay still say bull dagger? Look but I loved me? Oh boyd? Let me just say Godfrey? Did

you so you can't say that? I listen, Garfrey? So did you see we were talking about Michael Chi because Michael chief from certainly was who was one of my good friends. He's a brilliant community. But that joke was funny. I don't even what he is. Fun Let me tell you. Let me tell you. The Joe Barbata So they were talking about the transgender band on the military, that Joe Biden lifted the transgender band and they were going to call it don't ask, don't talk, which is you know

the girls talk there any who. So, first of all, I didn't think it was funny. This is me talking. Did you not think it was funny because it was about your community. I didn't give a funk. The joke was whacked. I don't even talk about it. So was not challenging that he but what the joke that he said? But it wasn't funny, And so the community, some of the girls, some of the transpart of the community was

upset because he said, don't talk. Meanwhile, they have a show called Untucked about RuPaul's drag Race, very very very popular show. Great show. I'm not throwing to show up under the bus. I'm showing the hypocrisy. Yeah, so y'all, y'all said nothing about this show that's been on for at least eleven years successfully, But y'all for a joke that he said and it wasn't even funny. We have made wonderful strategy in the trans community. We gotta state Senator.

We have a doctor that was appointed by Joe Biden. We got people in the media that's doing that's trans limit openly, and now they're allowed to be in the military. The same ones that's complaining are the same ones that wouldn't go to the military because I don't know. I'm not fighting for this country. I'm fighting with this country because y'all don't give me no vag say, but I'm not gonna fight for this I'm promised you right, I will fight a nigger, but I ain't gonna fight no America.

Michael did he did? He do it on S ANDL Yeah, he did it on said Tonight laugh. Well, they they're writers, and he probably didn't he fighting write it could have been writers that wrote it, and you know they read the script and it's gonna be hit. That's gonna be the blame. But that's the that's the chance you take in comedy. That's the chance you take. Michael's a good dude. Michael's fantastic man. He's a He's another guy that pays it forward and helps cats. So Michael's a brilliant comedian

does dope ass ship. Wait a minute back, when I said, look, I ain't gonna take you back, it wasn't funny. I don't care who wrote that. It wasn't funny. Now it wasn't funny, but I wasn't offended either, not the one. I was not offended at all. It was just not funny that No, it just wasn't funny. Well, I just said, some ship ain't funny, So I blame. You say a lot of ship that pissed people off and it ain't funny, So I do too, So care god free, how flame

is always going there? I don't give a fun dumb hand. Well, you know, we don't do m I never said that that's some ship that he wanted to get off his chest and he just tried to sneak one there. You black back. You don't blame. You're very edgy. So we we take that chance. We walk that line. Man, if I were to if I were to count, how many people were upset of the joke? Mess don't be a comedian then, and I did an interview for NBC magazine and that's just what I said. I don't want to

send your comedy. That is one of my pet peeves. Now that you can't you offend every group, you know? Did you guys have to do the for Netflix and don have to write out the jokes and oh I was read land for two hope for two times they relied the ship out of me because I was gonna offend this group or you was gonna shake up that group. You can't say anything. It's it's still in the joy of doing comedy. Honestly, it's they're trying to police comedy.

And the sad part about it is they will reward the people that ain't got nothing to say, and that's not cool because everybody lives a life. Your life is totally different than mine. We're in the same city, we're in different sides of the same city. That's a different lifestyle. We should be able to talk about our perspectives period that as long as you stay within the parameters of comedy. You just not saying it is gaye that, but you have no punchline. You gotta have some clever ship to

it where it's not coming from an hateful standpoint. But you should be able. What what do you want everybody to sound the same? You want? I've done I've done jokes about Dug I remember he was a perfect example. I was in Canada. I do a lot of Canadian comedy. I was in Canada. The comedian before me was talking about sodomizing something. He was sucking something. Nass As we're

talking about this lady's laughing. I get on stage after and I'm talking about my life, um in Catholic school, because I was in Catholic school from first grade to to freshman year in high school. And I'm talking about religion and this Catholic ship is weird and just and she gets up, the same lady that was laughing at the sodomy joke right before me, How dare you? And I said, bitch, kick rocks, kick rocks. You just talked. You just laughed at this dude fucking a goat for

ten minutes. And I'm telling you I have a problem with religion, and I don't believe Jesus is white, just geographically. And you're getting mad. I said, kick rocks. Get the funk this people. But people find anything to get bad at. You talk about dogs, don't talk about the bitch. I live on this planet. There's only so many subjects we have. Okay, so white people will shoot you about their dogs. You

can't make jokes about that. And I'll say this, though, I think that what's makes you guys so great as comics is your authenticity. Like, for instance, I had some of my friends officially watched like your episode. They're ready, they watched your episode, Godfrey. And I think that's what makes you guys so special despite all of the bullshit that may happen, and you guys is midst with you know, whatever material you guys have, it's the authenticity that people

really connect with, you know what I mean? And Godford, you're talking about the scientists in you and all these different things. You've got a lot of people going crazy like, oh God, God free smart too. So you might have some other d m s after this show is over. But I do want to segue really quickly and ask you, though, what is the ultimate goal that you have for yourself and your career? Like what would be something that happened that just you were like I made it. I made it.

Let me tell you something with the way, First of all, the business has changed. COVID shed a lot of man COVID leveled the motherfucking playing field and and all the bells and whistles that people are used to. It's kind of keep everybody you really saw who was not that talented and who was you know, I mean, there were no applause signs for your ass. It was just your you and your dumb apartment and the audience was the people you talked to right now in this camera. Understand.

So the business has changed for me. My thing is to be able to just be success because let's let me tell you something. Comedians are all we we We either do podcasting, we either act, we either host, we either do sitcoms. There's doors that we can go to as comedians. I just want to be able to go to any door that I want to. I want to be able to create my own ship and be able to do what I want when I feel like it. If I say, man, I want to shoot the film Boom,

here's the boom. You you're good, let's do it. I want to have the freedom to be able to express myself in my different talents. That's success to me without losing my integrity, without someone making me do some ship I don't want to do. That's success because people say, well, what do you want? I want to I don't want to do movies. You know, I'm a Marvel kid. I go up on superhero, Who the funk don't want to be a superhero? Who the funk don't want to shoot

fire off their hand? And stand there like, who the fu? Everybody want, even people that shouldn't be acting, will take that part. I want to be a training superhero. I want to be the first training superhero. It's coming, baby. I want to know how to rob banks. Usual ebt don't everything we grew up. Who doesn't want to shoot two guns and slide under a table and boom? But we all want to do that. Even people that don't even do it right be doing it because everybody wants

to do it. I want to be able to do creative, creative artwork. I want to do smart ship. I want to make motherfucker's be like yo, you want to inspire other people to go like Denzel Washington, that's my don't. I don't want to have a body of work like that guy. He he could look back and said, I never did no dumb ship. I never threw my culture under the bus. I never dogged black women ever. I never did any of that. But I still am liked by everyone. You know, you're not gonna be liked by everyone.

Not that mouth. I'm telling you in the gate let me ship. You are not gonna be like comedian that mouth for you. I've been trying to tain that. Oh your wor than Godfree. So you know, So God, I've done Godfrey's podcast to New York, y'all, so me and god forgot history were free and so I was on Godfrey show after I did the Breakfast Club because y'all know it was such a big hooplaha. So God, I have to bring this up to you because I know you're very politically savvy and woo woo. So Lauren, help

me with this, because you know, mess it up. There is a track team in Maryland. Oh let me, let me just pull up the article. So we got wait minute questions. Yeah, so the two trans girls were on the track team, on the female track team, and they got first running up and they won. Of course they did.

What did you think about that? Godfrey? That's bullshit? You do so to be on the men's track team not hold on, hold on before before we get into it, let's just get some context for everybody so they know. So a New Haven, Connecticut, there's an individual name Andrea Yearwood's. She hears comments, usually from adults and usually not to her face, but that she shouldn't be running and that she shouldn't be running against girls, even though she is

a transgender female so year would. She's a seventeen year old junior at Crama High School and she's one of two transgender high school sprinters in Connecticut who is transitioning to be mail. So she recently finished second in the fifty dash at the State Open Indoor track Championship. The winner Terry Miller of Bloomfield High. It's also transgender. Instead of girls state indoor record of six point nine five seconds,

Yearwood finished at seven point zero one seconds. So the question is becoming, is it fair that, you know, men who are transitioning to be female should be allowed to, you know, participate in female sports. It's it's it's hello. It's like that that transgender tennis player that was smoking all the chicks and he was like he was beating up all the girls, and they were like, you gotta play in the men's your strength. See, a man has strength.

That is why females don't box men. That's why females don't play football with dudes, because we will knock you the funk out and you don't have the strength. I'm not talking about mental capability, because a woman can be smarter than man all day, but physically we're just stronger. Than you two stops on the whole nine. If you are literally smoking girl and you're you're a man because by that you can go by track times I took.

I was in track and field. Usually a woman that runs a hundred meters a fast woman is about a ten point seven ten point eight men run track and field nine point eight. Nine. You saw what us, Saint Bolt ran nine point six. There's there's a strength thing there. They that's unfair. You need to no, no, no, unless you take enough estrogen where you're starting to run as fast as No. No, no, I'm not gonna give you pushback. Guy free, I'm gonna I completely agree with you. That

is completely un fan. But I don't want you to think I was about You looked at me like you was about to come through. But it's cheating. No, no, no, I agree with you. But what do you think the solution would be? And I'm asking you. I I got my own opinion, but I'm asking you what I think you should just be on the men's track team and just just running the men's track team. And if they don't unless they are just phobic, but they don't identify as a man, and that would be unfairly because what

are you gonna dos? Track one of that? That's it. I think that's the solution. I don't think we have to get a transtract team. I think that there's something else to maybe we can do. Because you guys brought a testosterone and estrogen and things like that. Listen, what I'm saying is I mean very true, but I think that there should be a happy medium that still I

think we can. I think there's a happy medium. I think that there's a way that maybe you can test levels of estrogen and testosterone to see in the body. I do because otherwise you're going to get into a situation of you get on stop stop. This is this is what Flame has been talking about. The LGBT is being a little ridiculous. Get on the your you run like a man, Get on the It's like, you know what it's like. I ran track varsity when I was a sophomore. I was running as fast as the upper class,

so they put me on there. They go, well, you're running as fast as them, so they move you up. You need to be running with the dudes, playing as simple because you're first of all, you're it's not like you're a chick and you happen to be running as fast as the men. No, you're a guy, and you you're you're you're a trans woman, but you're a trans woman meets you're a guy, and you and your and

your times, you're you're leaving people by thirty yards. Hello, dude, Well, I don't think I don't think they should call it a transtract him. I think it should be calling it should it should be called an identity track team, because they might say, identify some bitch I identified as an a team wheel truck. I will roll your answer, and that's all identify. I'm thinking all these identities ship I passed biology with the seen either then or this this or this which if the if? And every time you

want to shooting, you're not shoot. How you identify, go pee because you're gonna pass or shake. I'm just asking for a free Basically, basically, those trans, those trans guys are just shitty track and field runners. And that's not fair. Now, I gotta pushback on your player. That's not true. That's not true. No, they were not Let me let me talk because I was the seventeen year old queen too. But I want to run no, damn track. I was playing girl kiss a girl, and I was always the girl,

and I always got caught. Like the white bitches in the b Rady movies, I always got caught. I fail on purpose. Anyway. Anyway, it's not fair because if they identified as females and wait a minute, listen to me now, I'm speaking from the LGBT party, but part of me now and when I was seventeen in high school, I wouldn't have been able to run track and be openly a trans girl because I would have got my ass handed to me. I would have got beat up and locked in the locker stuff like that. So there are

reasons for not doing that. Also, on the on the other hand, okay, what happened, Okay, I also I also do not agree. I think that it is not fair. I think that the meat the guys are physically stronger than the girls, and that's not fair. But I do

think that they should create their own lane. So that should be their own lane created, and that way, if there's more trans girls that want to come out and want to run track but they're afraid to because of these kind of conversations, they will have a place where they could feel comfortable. Well, you can have alternative races. Is like in within within the meat, within the track meet,

you can have an all race, which is cool. That's because it's you have to call it alternative because you go, guys, listen this situation. You're calling yourself a woman, but you have the strength of a man. What do you want us to do? Either gonna run on a men's team or you're gonna do We're gonna have a special race for you got your your your category. That's what I'm

saying special. That's you you that ain't you. I have full bars what you understand where I'm coming from, because you cannot, you cannot be on the women's track team because you are leaving people. And the Dutch. Remember Florence Griffith Joyner. Remember remember because I was a big track head.

I remember it was it was ash I'm Evelyn Ashford, Chanda Cheeseburrow, it was all the women's track and field, and I was a sprinter, and I remember when Florence Griffith Joyner used to get her ass handed to her man and then one year, you know, in the Olympics she was leaving everybody. Everybody was like what's going on. She was taking steroids. She was taking testosterone. That's why

she passed away from a heart attack. She was taking steroids and she started winning, but she was leaving people by like two yards, and she was always coming in third. And all of a sudden, remember when Ben Johnson beat Carl Lewis, he was taking ship it was it was the testosterone. My point is, you're you're a man, and those gives you, that gives you strength. You naturally have that.

So what I'm saying is in the meat in the track meet, they should have a category, which is not hard to do for that because you can't be on the women's track team. It's not fair. It's not fair. And I think that's that's all. That's the only solution that I could think of. And I mean, and they have and there's something like that that exists, like the Special Olympics. You know, it's for those who can't compete

in regular Olympics. They have a disability. So there's a whole entire Olympics created for them, and and and but but the l g B t Q can't get supersensitive about every It's like, what do you want us to do? You can't cheat like that. You gotta be you gotta be open to go, oh yeah, you're right. I'm calling myself a transgendent woman and it is a little different. So just be open. So you can't just be complaining and binging and expect people who are heterosexual to go, well,

what do what you want us to do? And then they want to throw in phobia funk that It's like, no, you can't cheat, dude. You feel me, watch your pronouncia attitudes. Let me come through this motherfucker, let me go LGB godfriend, you don't want's funny to me? No, coffy and I love my sisters. I'll tell you some of my sisters be tripping. But you know what's funny to me to ever see the videos when the queen's walking down street

and we do have some lovely passible trans women. We got some girls that's so beautiful that you wouldn't never understand. But we also got some bitches that look like Herbert with a wig. So I'm just saying, bitch, if you know you're looking like Herbert with a wig on, and you walk down the street and something guy walked past, you would say, what's up? Dude, what's up? Man? Then you get mad, y'all going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Then you finally snatch your wig off

and say, don't disrespect me. I'm still a motherfucking man. Well, and how an argument I started. You should have just rolled with it from jump and just come. But it's so funny how people are just walking on contradiction. Like I remember, I remember in the West Village of New York there was just lesbian shack. You know, she looked like a dude. She walked in. I remember this ship walked in like a guy. Like she was looking for like some some drink or whatever. I'm sitting there and

she was stealing something. It was she was trying to steal, right and this little Korean man saw her, so she was trying to run out. That Korean dude caught her ass like said, you'll you'll try to take, you'll have to pay. So she's like, I'm thinking she was a dude because she looked like a guy. And so the Korean man had her and was stronger than her, and he and she goes, he goes, you you can steal. And then they were like, what's going on? What's going

he tried to steal? And then she goes it turns around, goes, I'm a girl, let me go oh, And everyone's like, oh, now you're a girl. Oh now you're a girl. Now you know what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, you now you want to be a girl because you got caught and this guy stronger than you. I just see so many contradictions. That's why I don't get involved in a lot of these conversations because people sit up there and

purposely not trying to understand stand. People have to understand the heterosexual's confusion sometimes like okay, so what do you want me to do? What do you want me to call? I mean, like, stop getting so mad. Like I understand, heterosexuals were the bullies. The heterosexuals were the bullies. I get that. But in this new day and age where we're supposed to be open the people that are complaining, you gotta be open to my confusion, Like, okay, so what do you want me to what do you want

me to call you? I don't know, I don't know. You know what's up? Don't get mad at me because I get the term wrong. I mean, are you're fucking kidding me right now, as long as I let you be who you want to be, don't get mad because I got one term off. Now you're fucking getting too picky. You feel what I'm saying because I want to be

able to todd to address you the proper way. But don't get upset because I don't remember, because I've been living on this planet for this long and I use these words and now all of a sudden, I'm supposed to learn it one day. Stop. You know that is why I take my compliment from you guys, because I'm very coming. Let me tell you where it starts. That it starts with you, Godfrey kind. Nobody called me now thing, and it affects me if I know that's not who

I am or what I am. I don't know what you call me, and I know that takes time, especially when you y'alling depend on how you were brought up or where you are y'all know, governing the projects. I was hard core thug as nigga anyway, but my feelings will still get hurt being called names and woo woo. You have to learn to separate what it matters to me. You know, somebody walking past me especially if you don't mean nothing to me and I don't know you. I

ain't gonna never see you again. You a stranger, Well, what the hell are you? I'm not gonna even answer you, because nigger, I don't know you. But if it's somebody I know love and care about, and they hurt my feelings because I do have feelings. I know you don't think I do, but I really do have, and that bothers me because I'm like, you talk to me. I am such an open, transparent person and God, get on the road with me. You can talk to me about anything,

and it's great because you keep it real. That's why I get. I get better at it because I go. And you know what I do. I use you. I use you as as a as a as a rapper. I go. Flames said that. Flames said it, So don't you fucking tell me. She broke it down to me, and I know what I'm talking because because I'm not into offending peace, I don't. I don't want to do. I don't. I want to know what. Okay, what do I need to know? Okay? Cool? Thanks, okay, thank you?

Just tell me not just go off and enough and respect this respect don't even have to be demanded if you treat yourself a certain way. When I when I meet people, I don't walk in on my head down like I'm scared to talk. I'll walk in the room like I own the damn room, and people treat me accordingly. Now, if you cross the land, I don't know how to cross the land back. But is it worth it to me? Is it even worth it to me? You know what?

What is it? What is the old fable? When it's two people are they don't know which one is the food? Sometimes it's not even worth giving somebody a clap back, like Nigga, I don't know you fuck you. You're broke as you know, and you maybe you know I'm Netflix Nigga, I ain't no brovery Netflix player. You know what I mean, gonta be. Sometimes some things don't even want like what you like, like what you were saying that out the black comedians going after each other, going Athleachi, What is

that profiting us as comedy? We both comedian. We might be on the road on a tour together. You never know who you're gonna get thrust with. You got we gotta get past some of that ship so we can all work, So we can work. My friend even said, he white comic, very very funny dude, and we are very honest. He goes, Leon Roger, Who Leon Rogers shout town, Oh Leon, Oh that's my dude. Where lay out as Leon? Check got yo. Let me tell you something. I had a white my my white comic friend. He's always on

my live talk and ship. He said, what is up with the black comics? All you gotta ship on each other? All that? Every time I'm with some black you're shooting on another black comic. I just sit there going, what the funck? Like? All you got? What is that? And I and he kept it real. I said, Man, I'm gonna tell you, Adam and ship is whack. He goes, he's like white guys. I mean, we may not like

each other, but we'll be like work with each other. Right, We're gonna fuck because we know we have a purpose. I go, I'm trying to get that into the fucking I said, but that Tiffany Hatters who boy, she changing the fucking what she's gonna change, She's gonna change the whole the playing field. Really, I think as far as her thought thought, people's thought processes, and Tiffany told me she got some hater ship. I'm not naming the person. I'll tell you off. Don't do it, don't do it.

I'm not gonna do anything but that. Godfrey, I want to hear, why are you doing what you're doing. I want to ask you a question, Godfrey, as a male comedian, because I was looking at the thing this morning, I wanted to pose this question to you about some male comedians saying that they would never wear a dress for a show, or for or for a skit or for a bit. How you feel about that? As a straight

black man, how do you feel about the whole dressing? Yeah, I wouldn't wear one because it's not about and people want to go home and no, no, no, no, I'm not taking that. No, I don't know. I'm just talking in general. It's not about that. It's about symbolism. Black people, African Americans, Caribbeans, their roll and same vote. We have a lot of we have a lot of repair that we need as far as our as far as what

people see us. As you know, it wasn't that long ago that we were wearing black face and we were cooning, and we had to do this step and fetch it. Louise Beaver's ethel Waters. All the black folks that tried their best to show dignity had to be servants. We I mean, we're still on this cream of weak box. Bro, We're still We're still on. We're still on Uncle Ben's were stay. We still got black symbols on fucking food. So wearing a dress has nothing to do. People want

to say, oh, you're what's wrong? We're in a dress. I say, you're not understanding see yet, because you're not educated on this ship. And I know the history. There's a very good book you should read called um The History of Blacks and Films, Mulatto's Cools, Bucks, Mammi's. It's by Donald Bogel. It's our it's our image, black manhood. It's very important to me, all right, very important to me. You have to understand that this country has always tried

to destroy black manhood. Is there a reason? Is there an accident that black men are in jail, incarcerated, with a lot of them not even doing the crime? Is there is is it? Is it? Is it an accident that majority of black men are in fucking prison? Is it? Is it an accident that whey or fail. In order for a well fair mother to get money, the black the black man has to be out of the house. I mean, is it an accident that white cops kill

us right on the spot? Is that an accident? I mean, black women get killed too, And I don't want to leave you all out, but is it an accident that we are always at at risk? Black men? So when I say Denzel Washington is my hero, that's I mean that ship. Denzel will never do no ship like that. You can, and and and for the guys that do it, it's an Artistically, if you're an actor and you want to do that, that's your business is. But I'm not doing that because I can do a lot of work.

I can be funny without putting on a dress. I don't feel comfortable doing that. I'm I'm I'm real head of sexual It has nothing to do at home before me. It's me as a symbol. I have nephews. I'm Nigerian, by the way, and they all watch what I do. African men watch what I do and they say, man, we're proud of you. I'm from the Congo, I'm from Ethiopia, I'm from what you do for us. The pride that you show black manhood is a bane. It's a thorn in the society's eyes because it's fear and which is sad.

I should be able to be black man proud. It shouldn't intimidate somebody else. That means you're the weaker person, you know what I'm saying. So I don't put on a dress because of those reasons, because symbolically it's like me doing um like like look at so plain when I did sold Plain right, okay? And I remember I remember when we auditioned for it. Nobody was working then.

People to talk about soul playing. But I remember a lot of people auditioning for it because black people, you know, a lot of times they leave us out of ship. So I went in into the audition room and I said, you know what, guys, I read the script is ghetto as fun. But Snoop Dogg is the pilot who doesn't want to be next to Snoop Dogg. I said, but I'm gonna change it. I'm gonna be African in this. I'm gonna be African. I'm gonna be I know I'm

the co pilot, but I'm gonna be African. They said, really, I said yeah, because everybody's doing the ghetto ship. I think if I'm an African, I can add a little bit of dignity to this ship. And I could be and and the African American African thinking that, you know, because you know how Africans and African Americans made fun of each other. And so I've always no matter what I did, I always tried to find some kind of humanity and some kind of dignity and always trying to

preserve my fucking manhood. Man, That's just what I'm about. But there's nothing wrong with that. It shouldn't be a fucking not at all. But I want to ask you a question, guy, because now you open up my man, and I'm telling you, I'm feeling that I'm listening to you talk. So how do you perceive me? GoF because and I'm telling you removed that we know each other, how do you perceive me? I just perceive you as

you know. You're a transgender, a confident transgender uh performers who don't give a fun But I'm still a Yeah. But you are a black man. But that's you. But that's it's different. It's different with you because I'm talking about a heterosexual dude that you're not heterosexual. See, well wait a minute, now, hold on playing, hold on you. But I don't. I don't know you completely. I think you're mixture of everything. See that's what I'm saying. I

want to get the terms right. So I'm talking about a black man that wants to wear a dress because they're gonna make it. Oh, if I do this, I'm gonna make it. You see, they do that. There's a difference. Let's say Let's say let's say I was already famous and I'm doing well, and I decide I think I want to play. I'm gonna play a female because it's our histic and I want to see I want to I want to stretch out. But a lot of times they make us do it in order to get to

a level. It's like it's like a rite of passage. Well, you need to do that in order to get that. I would rather do it on my own artistic integrity. That's different. It's about the timing of it, see and the intention. So people want to throw in, oh you don't want to do it. No, no, no, we as black folks need repair. We are fucked up. Black women.

They are the most educated in America, have the highest degrees, but you would never know that because you're you're regulated to a fucking twerk because of these dumbass shows like Housewives of Atlanta, because every episode you're calling each other bitches, and then you want to act like you're sophisticated and a lot of those women are very smart, candy, all of them are fucking they're fucking talented women's, but they

call each other bitches every week. And then you want why everybody greets you with a hey girl and that ship, but you got a college degree. But nobody would notice that because the media does not put black women in a fucking good light. So me, as an individual, all, I'm a I'm a spect on this planet. But guess what I'm gonna be a spect of integrity. That's what the funk I'm gonna be, because it's all about what

you surround yourself with. And I am tired of black women going and I'm saying black women, and I don't categorize you all in one lump. But a lot of times they'll say, well I like to watch that show, says stop watching it if you're trying to demand respect, stop watching, stop fucking patronizing that ship. Stop because it's shipping on your fucking image, is what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Well, well let's say this on that note, let the church say amen, because I think that was

a word. I appreciate you explaining that and giving us the educational moment. I think we needed that. And I love flame that you asked that question because I think I think we can take away here is that flame. You live in your truth, you do each and every day and everything that you do, and Godfrey, I think that you lending the different perspective on that side of the aisle. I'll say that all these intensive purposes, I

think it's needed this conversation. I love you, black ass nigga, and let me tell you why I love you, because Nigga, you ain't never changed from the moment me and you met and I was another girl, younger nigga. Y'all want to know the truth. Yes, I thought the niggas fan the nigga still look I don't know how to nigga his pies and still look like he in his thirties. But what he could never say or any other comedian in this and that she could ever say is flame

pushed up on me. I never crossed the land with you all as men because I respected you all as not only as comedians and my constituents, but I respected who you were as a man. That was not my place to push up on you. When when one of the comedians want the holiday, I got notes and letters and ship yes, but I never put and I always professional and I never want you all to feel uncomfortable around me, because if I wouldn't been that you would

have found. That's why I appreciate that, because you've got to understand there is people will be uncomfortable with that they don't understand, and it's their right to be uncomfortable, and it's your job to go listen. Man, I ain't yo. I respect you that I funk around, but I'm not. I'm a very You're very professional. And the thing that I like about you is that I it's like I understand it better when I every time I talk to you,

I'm learned something. I go all right, bet okay, that you know, and that's important you keep it one hundred because you because you come from a head of a sexual perspective, you come from all the perspectives, but you come one a hundred. You don't go no, but you know you go. Now, I'm gonna fucking listen. It's this, this and it's this, and that's what. That's why, that's why we we hear you. You're amazing comic Godfrey, and God Godfrey has so much knowledge relation Jim, y'all have

to follow god. He taught plenty of that. But he Okay, back to the what what what's the with the three o'clock in the morning ship? What's that spontaneous three clock? Let me tell you where that comes from, you sons of business. Let me tell you where that comes from. I've always stayed up late in college eighteen well, I know fun that I used to watch Johnny Carson, so my father would always get mad because I would watch.

I would stay up late fourteen years old. So I've always been a night at and I went to bed early for all that. Ship. I've always been late, and so I said about three years ago, I said, now I'm I'm gonna start really embracing the social media. And so when I get off stage, I would be on you know, I would be on late because I was always getting off on stage in New York. We stay up late, and so I'll start using my I'll do my lives, you know, I'll be I'll be with some

female chilling boom boom, you know. But this b three in the morning is normal to me. I go to bed if whatever. I'm not telling anybody. I like when people think I don't go to sleep. I go whatever. But I stay up late all the time. And guess what, why is everybody thinking? American? Do you know how many people are awaken other countries? Hi, I talked to people in the UK, Australia. People are up. We're not the only times at home. That's true. No, that's true and

God free. We just have to really just thank you for coming on here, dropping knowledge bombs, talking about yourself, you being a scientist, just your background. We we really truly appreciate you. We had a great I think, authentic conversations and we're gonna get some great rave reviews on this. So but before we let you know we are, we definitely are. I'm looking at the comments talking to and he's in a hundred and ninety countries right now with us.

That's one thing you want to ask you what what can we expect from you? What projects do you have coming up? Like? What what's going on? Just give us some insight. Okay, Well, I have my podcast which in Flame was on which was awesome and god Free We Trust. It's on the Gas Digital Network. Also you should subscribe use the promo code god for you get two weeks

free and it's also on YouTube. You go to Godfrey Comedy you can actually see some episodes to see if you like it, press is subscribe button that the podcasting is going good. I haven't changed my goal at all. All Right, I've been. I've been even during the the the COVID. I haven't missed the live yet. I've been on LIVEE every single night because people were like, thank you for just doing that, because we've been. You got us out of this COVID just being there. So I

do my lives every night. Also, um, I have a show which is on Kevin Hart's network and Pluto and Peacock. It's called in Godfrey We Trust Me and Ruben Paul, another awesome comedian, created it. It's like it's like a ranting show, a green screen virtual show, just talking about politics like his all kind of ship it's called Godfrey Trust on Pluto, Peacock and Kevin Hearts is a l L Studios Now or LLL Network, either of those go

to it. It's on no streaming networks. And also um, I finished the pilot with over the Over the COVID. I finished the pilot with some people, so I got that going on. And also I still travel and doing live shows this week. If you got is this showing? This is now? This is not but we It's gonna re air on Thursday. Okay, well I'll be in I'll be in Vegas doing a laugh Factory in Vegas. And also on Sunday, Valentine Day, I'm me Zaneyes in Nashville,

Tennessee for one night, two shows, one night, Nashville, Tennessee. Zanyes, Well, I just want to personally say thank you so much, Guy for for coming on and let me tell it to me, and Guy for reconnecting on the tour with Tiffany. And we ain't gonna let the Neig get away, y'all. He man, he belonged to me. I got that. He's so great. I'm so proud of you and I'm so happy for you. You know, we love you. Over here. Thank you so much for this is our squad. It's like,

this is our squad. We got our we got our family, our circle, and it's and it's it's and I just I just I just see and I see your your life is. You're doing so much great ship man, and so I really feel like I have a family of people now finally, like oh, I got people that look out for me. Ship this is great. I know you know, wherever I'm at, I'm gonna talk good about them. Wherever they're at, the're gonna talk good about me. And just keep that that going. That that also counts too. So

your family like a motherfucking I appreciate you. You know you're the man guy. We are doing you over here. Can we get some Trump before we sign out? Please? Can I can I get that nigga Trump to show him and apologize. I need the nigga to apologize. I'm so sorry. I'm very sorry. Flame. I think you're you're showing so great. You're amazing you. He we she I love him, I love everybody. Seriously, you guys are great. Tiffany is amazing. She is Tom Brady, definitely Tom Brady,

because Tom Brady was a Trump supporter. Man, we love your ladies. Ready season two, please watch it on Netflix. Thank you guys, please for everybody better be following me after this. Boy, now better go up. Indeed, thank you, my guy, free, good guy. That was a great tay bring the account so we can say about the nick Lady gimen. Thank you guys so much for joining us here and laugh and learned today. M this is our last day of the studio. Don't ask me what it's

gonna look like next week we'll be here. I don't know what it's gonna look like, but I don't know where That is what I'm talking about. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, that was It would have been a little more awesome if you would have been like, right there, No, y'all don't need me. You all definitely let me tell you something. Too many too many cooks in the kitchen? What does it do? Playing washed me? Because that's something you'll do exactly. I'm like, oh no, listen, I want to go back

because I know we need to wrap up. It was a great show. But this is what we talked about, how we always try to have guests who bring a different perspective, who make us laugh will make us learn because it's all about that engagement. The comments are going crazy. Godfrey said a couple of things that I just think it's necessary that we uh go back to it because

this will definitely be in the show. We know that Godfrey talking about he's not expect on this planet, but he's going to be Uh, he's just expect on this planet, but he's gonna be expect with integrity, And I think that's what we all strive for, and that just that's

just one of the many nuggets that jumped out of me. Yeah, I think overall that it was a conversation that needed to be had, and I think what was so great about it too is that there truly was two different perspectives and although you guys were friends, you still had a very organic conversation about societal normans, stigma, and you know the variety of things. So, like I said, I think this is going to be a conversation that's going to engage quite a few different folks of different communities,

different backgrounds. And that's another reason why I love I love this conversation, Lauren, and why I love playing. I never know what Flame is going to say where people think oh you all agree on I'm like, have you met right? Like? You know first of all players disagrees, it does not like something I have to say. Oh, she's gonna let me know in the moment. And that's part of I think Flame just being played. But you and Godfrey had two very different views on so many things,

and you can still be friends because playing. This is what it's all about. We are not trying to get anybody to change their minds. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind and so you have to have one in order to use with me, and you're gonna better have with use. We pride ourselves were having the smartest listeners on the internet. The flame mats and the firecrackers and the lounges and the vouchets are the smartest people on the Internet. This is why I laugh

and learn. It's successful because of you guys. Definitely, definitely and kind of wait to see you at Zany's in Nashville. It's an awesome space. I love Nashville, Tennessee. You you will kill it there, Zanies. Run my check and she is right here here should we bookings at gmail dot com. Thank you, guys, So much for joining us. We are moving to a different space next week, but we will still be here. This show will drop an air on third Wednesday night, midnight midnight this week midnight. So we

appreciate you. Guys. Please follow Lauren Hogan at I'm at Lauren Harmoni h on Instagram and I also have a YouTube channel that you can subscribe to and see all of our laugh and learn episodes there. Nick, where can we find you can see right right exactly? Okay, we bade each other. You can find me at Flame, Monroe Flame, Underscore Monroe Monroe Flame, at Marcus Flame, Monroe Park all the name, that's what the check on me in Marcus Park?

Do you heet me complaining about that? I don't give you can say, mr miss miss misses, I'll understudy all that as long as that's clear at Wales. Thank you very much, well, I would say, thank you guys so much. Right and we'll see what Nicholas, you haven't done us? What we can find you at? He did? You were talking what I'm talking about. I was listening. I heard you heard. That's why y'all because I'm un in my mouth.

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