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lift di spirit. Think you want to revisit tell your first take a listen, Jill. Folks say it slip all folks that we dig it. Don't do what you do. Nois do what you don't, nois do what I do. No. Good afternoon, Lauren, Good afternoon? Claim how are you? I'm good? I'm good, y'all? Say I got myt with Lorna Woods had from good times because that day with lorda war more week? But what kind of week? You gotta look at Lauren's weeds. I'm sparkling today, yes, Holiday Christmas, Christmas

sparkling today like sparkling cider. Yes, Laura's taller a bottle, a bottle of siding to Lauren. Lauren is like five teen five teen and her flat feet baby, and you know she used to dance with Debbie Allen the lays kick My six o'clock. It's not even like four thirty. It's like two oh five. Ship never needed to do that in rehearsally, you'd be like six o'clock. I never I never did another. I never did ane of that. My six o'clock was for love, like, yeah, my six

clock was very different. Okay, we can we can talk about that later. How was your Christmas? Lauren? It was good? Actually I cooked. I know you said that you cooked too, but I did too. Um. I cooked some barbecue chicken wings and some regular chicken wings, and some mac and cheese and some greens, and I cooked. That was almost a traditional meal. Yeah, I didn't make it. I don't like turkey though. I don't like turkey or turkeys exactly. We got a turkey? Is that? That ain't him? You know,

ain't get my glasses on. So we're gonna have nick whenever you Lauren had to see it, because can see it us, know when you hear Christmas was very quiet. Yeah, nobody came over, just me and the kids and my friend LB of course. But that's somebody I haven't seen regularly, and she gets prayed like everybody else. Everybody gets prayed with light song. This morning, everybody in this studio got sprayed with light Song. I don't know if it works

or not, but it's been working for me. Plus, Christmas was very different than Ship because I don't know that were you on the naughty or nice list? Long? I'm always on the nice list. What do you mean everything? She is an educated sister, but she cuts up, y'all. You know she can't hang out with me and don't cut up. That just doesn't even work. I told saying that they could come to my house. I love you saying, but nigger, the corona is real. He was going too

many different people houses. Want to stop, Honey. I sprayed that nigga, Donna blitzon. I sprayed the shot out of Rutolf because he kept sharing the light in my face like the police and Ship. I sprayed the hell out of Rutolf, the Routolf cause you know house and his nose was shine. The nigga was lights all. Sanda couldn't come to my house because if the rona is real, and I ain't working with saying lead him, give yourself

that they're still sitting out there. You give him, said me, two hours and just let the mirror, and they did bring I didn't know that coming up to my house because you got that you're going on. I don't even like the bitch across the street, Honey, I don't know what kind of hell she got you bringing ronans to my house and give you a knock it off. Hello Nick, welcome to laugh and learn everyone. Here's my partner head there, very handsome Mr Nick Smith. Hello me. I love the

Charlie Brown tree in the background. Oh good, And I'm trying to sit back so you're not like, Okay, Nick, get out of my face while you're rolling up on me like the police. How was your How was your Christmas? Well I'm still celebrating naturally. You know me too. Look see, we came prepared, We came prepared, We came with props. I must be Scrooge, humble at all that you are the gift that keeps giving. Oh that's what she said. Wait a minute, hell, hello lord, how you doing identifies

as he let me be respectful. That's what he said. There, you go. I just had to clear that up with some of my Flame mitts because they'd be confused and ship. But you know this is the heat, the sheet and the wist, so you get it all right here. And then you know, Flame people have an issue with you and uh pronouns and things like that anyway, so you know you're gonna get it either way. You know that. Let me tell you what they're gonna get back today,

because I'm feeling groovy. Baby, you don't get it back today. It's a good an interesting show. It is. It's like Flame teased in the little video I saw before we was showing that dress. That was I don't think we can wear that to church on Sunday. You can't even go to church on the Corona. Got anybody outside anybody going to church? Anybody want to church? You worshing God from right here, right from from you know, I g live with Flame and yeah, I love that. But no,

my my holiday was great, Lauren. How was your because I know your parents and everybody are still here locally, so at least you got a chance to see mom and dad. Right. Yeah, No, my holiday was great. You know, we hung out, my brother did a quick drive by to drop off some gifts and I gave him his I cooked, so it was very low key. We watched some movies and you know, I was catching up on my black content on Netflix and it was good. How

was yours? Absolutely same thing? You know I watched? Uh, I have to, you know, say, we're gonna talk about a little bit later. But Flame is always finding something and saying, what do you mean you haven't seen this? You better watch this, and once again sit there. I'm glad that you buy yourself crying and laughing and all that. So I got a chance to catch up on a couple of things. One of them was something that Flame

and recommended that. Well, talk about a little bit later, but yes, and because Lauren watched the same thing, you're not already started. We're gonna change the format. So we're gonna have to start with that because you're not ready open up the door. First of all, you didn't ask me what how was my Christmas? Even though I did get my Christmas present from you, thank you very much. Secondly, my Christmas was fire. I ain't do a damn thing,

which I wish I was doing right now. And what they watched, they co on their black content on Netflix. What what did you watch, Lauren? I watched I Am not your Negro. I am not your Negro. Yeah, what did you think? Nick? I'm curious? What are your thoughts? I was floored? Uh? Is you know? How? Wow? You know? Without getting it just seems like the more things change,

the more they stay the same. You know what, I'll sounded like a cliche, but I think that, um what I would have to say, and I'm not We're just gonna say it. I think that James Baldwin easily was one of the best writers and prolific thinkers, and unfortunately, I just feel as though, um, we were a community

not ready to receive him in his fullness that he was. Uh, he was too much that we still need our communicators and people who speak for or reflect the community to look, walk, talk a certain way, and he was not having any of that. He was going to be as authentic self. And I think that that, unfortunately didn't afford him the opportunity to us have to have the audience that I felt like he deserved. Yeah, I would agree with that.

I think for me, the overarching theme that kept coming up with his representation, um and just the lack thereof that we have as you know, black folks in America. It was just very interesting that they were using different movies to help draw these correlations in parallels together to say, while you may have been enjoying them in the moment, this is how racist it really was, you know, and so this is not something that should have been laughed about or people should have profited off of. This is

something that should have been addressed to something serious. So that was my overall takeaway from it. I also just loved how James Baldwin checked people when they really tried to say, oh, we're you know, we're trying to make strides and we keep apologizing. It's like, stop apologizing and actually do something about it. So overall it was really great. Honestly, I always loved just watching films like that, and you know, thirteen than just you know, films that really tell you

about your history, the truth behind it. And we kind of talked about that last week of just when you write history, write it correctly, So it was it's always refreshing to you know, get films that actually tell you the truth and you get some more insight to your history. I love James Bowen I thought that he was brilliant. I thought that he was smarter. And I'm saying this publicly on record that I thought to collectively he was where he was smarter than Martin Luther, King, Malcolm X

and and Muhammad Ali Hua outdoor, all three of these men. Understand, I'm not bashing any of them put together. But again, he was ahead of his hand, and he was openly gay and unapologetic about it. The same thing would be arrested. He was openly gay and unapologetic about it. But he had such a place in the movement as far as us with civil rights and everything. But this is this goes back to detriment. It's not them, sometimes it's us,

And it's not them. It's sometimes it's us. I said, hold on, niggas, hold at the one second before I said I wanted to be people always say for them, you should be advocate, you should be a speak I'm not because I'm not gonna be judged on the content of what I say. I'm gonna be judged on what you see. And I'm gonna show these titties because they're pretty, and I'm gonna show these titties. I'm telling you and

black people. I said this black people who have more of an issue with it than anyone else, because that's who we are. I said what I said, James Baldwin could have and his his what he said, And when you are watching, y'all need to watch. Everything that he said back in nine is relevant right now, probably more so now than then. That shows you what a visionary he was. But I wouldn't put myself in that position because people are not gonna hear me. They're gonna see

these titties. Oh, I'm gonna show the play start there because since you open that door and I know this is going in the direction, this is what I love about, laugh and learn. Why do you why did you call off the black community? Why do you feel like black people have a harder time with who you are and how you represent than any other group because you grew up in a black household too. As much as you would like, there have to been something else, sometimes something

with somebody else's house, it wasn't. Do you understand that being gay in the black community, And y'all can hand me my ask for this one, because I know what I'm saying. Being gay in the black community is worse than being the rapist or the child molester or the serial killer in the family. In the black community, being gay has carries way more sinful weight in black ass and black households than being a killer or the one the uncle to come over and touch on all the

kids and ship. Yeah, and that's the truth. And if you fight, if you think that I'm you disagree with me, weigh in to give us your opinion. I say it what I said because guess what, I don't care what you think. And if you do want to weigh in and give your opinion, this is where I'm gonna give the little plug. As we move into the show, I want everybody remember to type in capital letters because Flame is reading and monitoring things that come across the screen.

Flame and Lauren have the iPad there. We want you to join the conversation. We want you to comment, we want you to share it, we want you to subscribe. But if you want to sound off into the conversation and join us, want you to use those Flames typing capital letters, find good lighting, have your headphones, and used the Flame so that we know that you're ready to join the converse before we move forward. I'm want Lawn

to weigh in on that lawrence. So you grew up, you you do you have any gay people in your family? I do? Do you have any people that go back and forth to jail for other crimes? Oh? My god. Well it was a comparison. I'm not saying, well, I won't totally put my family's business on blast, but um, there was a situation in my family where there was an uncle, um, who was a little inappropriate with my aunt who's my mom's sister. So and so how did the family measure the gay one and the other one?

I would say, my family, We'll just talk about my mom's side. You know, born and raised in New York and Brooklyn, very progressive. You know, We've got musicians and every artist that you can think of on my mom's side of the family, So very inclusive. You know. It was never anything about, you know, if you were gay whatever, you know, your sexuality was I think the only um issue once that my grandmother took with her sister, who you know was a lesbian, you know, and she passed

away from colon cancer a couple of years ago. But one time she said to my mother, you know, everybody's got a little lesbian into them. My grandmother didn't appreciate. She didn't like that. But other than that, you know, very inclusive. It was, it was never an issue. But to your point, Flame, I I hear what you're saying,

and I can, I can, I can understand that. But I think part of two of kind of what we need to unpack here is, you know, some of these norms that we have in the black community of why we don't accept things come from what was ingrained in us when we were slaves. That's my opinion. You know, you guys can differ in in that space, but I just feel like those societal norms that were set on us are the reasons why we have these issues in

our communities today. And I completely agree, Lauren, And just to piggyback off of that, because I I do want us to wow. Wasn't I expecting this conversation at all? But I think it's one of those things to where um, for whatever reason, families are more comfortable saying to the girls in the family, we've heard this. I won't speak for anybody else, but go put some clothes on because

so and so is coming over here. And you would think that, well, why why is it all of a sudden, Now this girl is put in a space of shame. Something's wrong with her body that she can't be She was just running around here with Aunt Lauren and and and an antique Karen h in her shorts and her little tooth. Topic there was not a problem. But now because somebody in the family is coming over there, everybody kind of knows and they kind of whisper about, but

they don't want to say anything. Go put some go put on some pants because uncle so and so is coming over here. That that that's a problem. Yeah, but let's but let's talk about that though, because where is that origin come from. If we're going to take you back to what I just said, let's think about how we were on plantations as black folks, and we had these white women who were married to our masters, and they were very insecure about black women because these white

women were coming in and sleeping with black women. They were cheating on them, right, white man, so exactly white men. So the issue became that, oh, she's dressed inappropriately, so she needs to cover up. And then that's just how that, you know, narrative transcends through time. That's how I feel. I don't know about that one. We're both of y'all because y'all not parents. Because in my house, when is he and my daughter got boobs? One day she came out to the room head boobs. I'm a girl. When

you get those? She got from you? I said, man was put on your grew though. Any who, but she has My son is there and he's a eighteen. He's seventeen, she's seventeen. Put some clothes on. I think it's inappropriate to walk around me. Is disrespectful to me as your father, and it's disrespectful to your brother because even though you

all are related, he's a teenager. I'm not saying that it's some perversion thinking in the house, but you don't know how another person is thinking, or you're looking at somebody. I used to have a problem with my mother walking around scandidly dressed in the home. So would you put some clothes on? She slapped the hell out of me. One day I asked her again, would you put some clothes on? I didn't want to see all of that, But does that make a difference? I see nickers want

to go, I'll do it tonight. A love louds I get your asser back tonight, nigga, right now we're on the show. I just think that as a father of daughters, that it starts with respect to me. So if if I asked you to respect me as your dad, you respect yourself with other me. And that's what I'm looking at. And I don't want to see my daughter walking around brawl this with a boo. I mean, I don't do it, you know, and I got boom. So I'm a very different looking dad. But I make sure I have on

my clothes. I keep on my jogging pants and a T shirt around my children. You know, I'm not never scared. I don't even know my children have every well, one I'm walked in on me, so had ever seen me naked before? But yeah, I mean that's happened. I've done that, to have walked in on my dad naked. But as a father of a daughter, I want her to respect me because as a man, so I figured like she'll respect other mean, because it's kind of respecting yourself your daughter.

You don't know, would you feel appropriate walking around your dad? You know it was a young team. You know, I never would, And I mean I agree with that part of what you're saying, but so, I mean, I think it's both of those things. I think, you know, black women were hyper sexualized at a very young age and it's carried on. And to your point, you know, you do have to have that dividing line of Okay, I'm still your father. You need to respect me because that's

how I am. And you know with my father as well, we definitely have those lines drawn in the sand. Well, since you have three teenagers at home, I have to ask, did Santa visit the Parker's Santa didn't come in my house. I think you had the corona we sprayed anything outside on the chimney. But we already talked about that. You can't Santa couldn't come to my house because that nink went to too many different people house with that ship.

Uh So, let's move on because I want to talk about something I want to I know we I know this is often cause what's the first subject, Lauren? We need to talk about these automated cars. Yeah, we want to talk about the car. I do want to just say shout out to the family in Ohio. I think his name was Andre. The police they they just killed the guy in Ohio and shot him and the police officer if a police officer was fired. But here's my thing,

is it getting any better? Honestly? Since George Floyd you shoot me and then you keep telling me put my hand behind your back, nigga, you can't. I can't move my arm because you didn't shot me in it. The police, we talked about this last week. It's not they don't need to redo the police. They need to reform it. It needs to be some changes. You cannot keep putting around pig in a square hole does not work. I

do think, though, this particular situation is different. Um. And I say that simply because one I want to applaud, you know, I think that I never want people to think that somehow, uh you know, we we have something against law enforcement, because I if I will speak for me, I don't. But I think that their reform is necessary in this situation. I applaud leadership because they active swiftly. Not only did that officer not have his body camera

on like he will suppose too, he violated. They acted quickly. There was no oh, we're going to suspend with pay while we figure out and we investigate. No, he's fired. We will continue to investigate. We made a mistake because this guy was on our on our payroll, and he did not act the way he had been trained to do and what the policy was. So I like that

swift action. I also like the swift action of the officers who responded this weekend on Christmas morning to that bombing in Nashville, who immediately started knocking on doors and and they looked out for each other and they got people out of harm's way. Um. I just think that there are times when uh, there are many officers who there are more I believe, who do the right thing more often than not. And unfortunately it's those bad apples that keep popping up, making the entire force look bad.

And Nikolas cleaning up of that meeting, nigger, you better clean up for that wash your meat statement. You better make a deal that the dealer is I will never wash my That's it's still ridiculous. It's as ridiculous then as it is now. Her friend she said that your meats stayed quite clean. I'm just telling you I knew her. Hey, Hey, hey, any who, let's go back because we were going somewhere else and we didn't get all sides because you brought up that bombing baby. I knew that was not no bomber.

I knew that was a terrorist. And I knew he wasn't black because they didn't show his picture because they didn't have to say the name if he was black, they didn't show the picture. Ain't you got damn name. Well, we're gonna talk about that later on in the show, because that's gonna be Lord, He's all I told you I was feeling. I told you all before the show started that I was feeling groovy. If you don't know

what that means, join us, aid love. Now, just six starts tonight, so we're gonna rewind here and we are officially going to start to show what the first topic, which is with self driving automated cars, um Nick, I know you and Flame had a discussion about it, and then Flame and I kind of had an offline discussion about it too. How do you feel about this? What

the deal is? I was saying the Flame. The reason I brought this up and one day introduced this as a topic is because more and more of us are starting to see the electric stations pop up, simply because this is also part of Biden's whole commitment to going green and making sure that those who buy electric vehicles and self driving cars, most of the self driving cars and self automated vehicles happen to be electric, and the ideas that that smarter technology will make the roadways safer.

That's also the direction many of the shipping UH trucks and things are headed, because unfortunately, too many of these drivers are on the road longer than they should be safely in order to pick up and drop off a load in time that is really just not realistic for them to actually be able to pick up and drop off and make money and get back. So the idea behind all of the testing of late as the automated trucks automated cars so that people can actually uh you

remove the human error from driving a vehicle. So I think it's a great idea. Um I'm not for it. I hear all the reasons why, you know the reason behind this should happen, but I'm sorry. Technology fails us so many times within a day, a glitch is some error something, and I think that the flip side to that could be we could end up having more accidents.

I really do, but I would never feel safe to just be in a car relaxing and say, oh, you can just drive for me, because you never know, you have to have quick reflexes and quick you know, fast reaction time, and what if you don't and you end up getting hit? You know what I mean? And then it's like, who's whose fault is it? That could be something else? Is it the actual automotive engineering fault of the car or whoever manufactures the car, or is it

the actual driver? It can just it can cause a lot of gray areas that I'm just really not okay with. Uh is it my turn? Well? Yeah, but wait, wait, Nick, I got one scenario for you. Imagine getting in one of those self driving cars and it drives like I d because Nick is fucking terrified of my driving. Let's let's go and tell the people the truth. Nick says in the back seat when he raves with me, this is real talk, the truth. He ras in it because

he's terrified of mine. So imagine riding in a in a car with with a system that they already programmed that drafts like I draft. How many heart attacks have you had in the day working with me? Well, I'm gonna say I don't think that would be a car designed by anyone. Let's just let's start there unless the speed racer. Are you kidding me? I think you know, you know. I just think that the technology is here,

and I don't think you undering a bell, right. I can remember early on when microwaves came out, I had older relatives. I'm putting no food on. What's what's all that radiation going into my food? Now we don't even think about it. I think that I can remember when people like, why would I get into a stranger's car? H? Well, that's how Uber works with me. You don't know the person,

You're just gonna get in their car. I think that that's just where technology is headed, because the idea of moving people, large groups of people safely from one place to another or individuals isn't new, and people are looking for cheaper ways to get their Younger people aren't buying cars at the same rate. I just think that uh automated Uber's automated buses. I think that technology is here and it's just going to expand. I Nicholas and Nicholas,

I'm not for it. I'm telling you right now, I'm not for it because you know, as a people, we get too complace, not just as a black people, just as a people in general. And so I'm gonna get this comfortable. I'm gonna went through the drift through. I'm sitting here eating my food, and you know what's gonna happen after you eat, especially if you ain't gonna be drabting, you go the iist kicking and you're just nodding, and this thing have a glitch. You kill yourself, you kill

somebody else. I couldn't live with that, you know. I'm I'm alert when I'm writing with people that I'm not comfortable how they drive because I'm never understanding why me and you in the car together, Lauren. So I'm driving and we have a conversation and I just gotta keep turning to look at you, like you can't hear me. I'm looking in the in the straight this this whole can hear me. I ain't gonna look at hard can

hit me. And that bothers me when people do that, because all it takes is to take your ads off the road for a split second and it's over. And I will say that just so people know and they don't slide up in your comments. You are not reading your phone when you're driving. Now, this is true. I just to and you're not reading your phone, and you are not one of those to turn and look at me. You do keep your eyes on the road. And I think what gives me some sense of comfort is that

you're comfortable. And it's the same way you drive even when the kids in the car. So when Precious cargoes in there, So when Prescious cargoes in the car, I'm like, well, okay, she loved that baby. Y'all know who Nicolas said, I drive like y'all remember the movie Superstar and the lady was the soccer mom driver and she was looking back and changing pampas. That's how Niccola says, I drive, y'all that those therapian turns at breakneck speed. We're just like

I said, whoa okay. And then one time Lauren so fast and there was such a cut that at one point I put she like playing with like, uh what you we're break You're using it because he was using That's when you got into the student driver cars. They got the brakes on the passengers side, but systematic, we would we would get so used to that, and I just think, I'm I'm going, I'm not with that because we would take our attention off of what's important. Machines

do glitch, people glitch? You know, I guess, I guess the bigger question is you all know the technology is here. We don't live in a vacuum. So what do you plan to do? Then? Are you just oh, I will never get in an automated car? Or right now? Do you need to learn more what needs to put you at ease? Because you don't, you're still washing me. You won't do a vaccine, you won't get May we use electricity? What would you all prefer? How about this? How about

you let fifteen million people drive these automated cars. See how many accidents happen and people die? Didn't bring me back the report and I'll tell you how I feel. Let's do that. How about that? Lauren's like, how about that? Nick was sugar about that? Not washing his meat? I mean washing the meat, Like I say, we have the meats, more people, more people slit up, and my letting. You would have thought I had called somebody out of their name.

The way they split up and they're talking about me, And then I was like, whoa again, black folks, we are systematic people, and when we get used to doing some ship a certain way, just like they said in the Color Purple. Remember they said in the movie The Cup of we hang the sheets up first so that we can hang the socks in the crack. When she was trying to explain the word of systematic to her sister, this is what we do. We systemica do the same ship over and over, and we all believe what most

of us believe. If it ain't broke, don't fix. I will change my way of doing some things. But I'm not getting in the car driving because baby, what if I sneeze and the cod think I gave it another demand and hit something else? I said, I too at the best that I said, stopped and we hit the back of and I walk around with one leg and one a and they called me at hop no thank you, no ma'am, and no thank you. I'm good. You know. I like my two legs, my two boobs, and my

two Okay, what's the next subject? Well, I think I was gonna say. I think that's a good segue since we're talking about people possibly dying. Um, we were talking about just overall loss and death happening. We're gonna bring some people in there, but before because they could get along with We're gonna bring you back in. We're gonna get some folks in there, change their hair. We're gonna bring somebody because we're are going to talk about death

because everybody proceeds or receives death differently. And this and the time of death now is very strange because people are having virtual funerals, or you can't go to the field, you can't even be with somebody in the time of bereave man because of coronavirus, or even saying you're goodbyes in the hospital. Right, So we want to bring somebody in who's gonna explain it to us about death and what death is. Because death is to me, I was told as a preacher was kid. Preachers said that you

we're all here on loan. We all have to go back to that big pawn shopping. As simple as that sounds that I understood that. Hello, Hello, Texas Star party too. Hey, So we're doing great. You look amazing. How is your Christmas? My Christmas was good. My daddy barbecue for me, My mama fixed some ratios, and I fixed the coast law. So I was fitting full all weekend. I just ate the last of the barbecue and now I'm headed back to New Hampshire and the words are saying a whole

ho ho. I like the dawn. So we had two subjects we can't cover when you heard us talking, because you know I've been I've been all over the place this morning. Something in my coca colde, in my diet car, drinking diet coke make you think crazy? Okay, but we're Lauren, Happy holiday? Hi? How are you happy holiday? I see you. Let's looks so cute. Listen. I wanted to say two things when you were talking about the transgender community to

gay community. You don't have a little cousin that's transgender, and um, my first cousin. He's my first cousin's son actually, and he in September when I came home to visit, he was down, um depressed because I couldn't find a job. Roommate died. To make a long story short, he made an outcry on Facebook about how said he wasn't depressed while I reached out to him encouraged him. I didn't

see transgender. I saw my little cousin. You know the love I have for him, you know, he text me the other day about Anita Baker because I turned him on Anita bak An eighty four when he was a little kid, you know. And I don't see transgender. I don't care. I love him, you know. And I had to tell that to my mother. I said, when we were talking about somebody that was trans gender, I said, Jason is transgender too. Yeah, well I can't never remember

his name is Chelsea, but I called him Jason. I said, you love him, We love him, you know, So it doesn't matter to me. I don't care because guess what, I don't have a hell or heaven on hell to put him in. So that's that's that's that's just the way it is. And we need more people like you doing. And when I was saying that, I wasn't throwing my black community up under the bus, but I part of the black community. And that was it. That people just did not accept the game. They would accept so many

other things. He could have thirteen baby mamas and nney nine kids running around, anything was better than that that person being game, so exactly, you know, like you say, they except the sex offender. They said, somebody Uncle Johnny that have been touching the kids since they came into this world. For the record, for the record, Uncle Johnny brought the best kids. Let me just say yeah, because he had to make up for all the ship he was doing it. That's THEBA. But anyway, I look forward

to seeing Uncle Johnny every Christian. Let me just say personally, he had one hand on the ham and one hand on my ass and I I was sport to and I was I was young. That's a joke for ya, okay. But the second thing when Lauren was when y'all were talking about the electric cars, the new cars and whatnot. Now, I live in Southeast Texas and we as nothing but refineries between Bone, mic Port, Arthur and Houston, So we make oil and most of the oil goals for cars.

So are they trying to they trying to push out the oil industry. That's a good point. That's a very good point. I mean, you know, we have hurricanes, non urricanes are coming so often. They're coming like June first to November thirty. So when the lights go out and the poles are down and we need to charge up these cars, are we gonna do when we ain't got electricity? Exactly? That's a couple. I'm afraid of him. I don't need

nothing running about machine running. I'm just saying, and it makes us but honestly, it makes us as a society lazy. You know. It's like we stopped doing for it for ourselves. You know, we come so dependent on technology that we can't do for our our own selves anymore. So I'm really not a fan of it at all. Well, and you know, another thing to Lauren to add to that, the the cars we used to have in the eighties

and nineties. Your daddy could change the oil, but now they made it so that you can't even get to the oil. You have to take it to the dealership or someone that specializes in changing oil to get your own change, you know. So, I mean, you know, the Tesla's are nice, that good looking cars, but I'm just not the head. But because I come from a refinery town,

you understand what I'm saying. This is our way of living out here, and a lot of people may that way of living retired, gotten good benefits, good um income whatever. And y'all trying to face out the oil industry because a lot of our all come from Southeast Texas. Well, we want you to wait in on death because that's what we talked about right now, Dawn. So what I know you, I know you've lost people or known people

who've lost people. And I mean not even just talking about this year with the coronavirus, because it's been so much death this year. What we had three hundred and fifteen thousand in county or something like that. And then I saw Biden earlier today said that he's projected by the end of January because of the Christmas surge and traveling. Wh y'all should have set your asses down that it was gonna be another two hundred and fifty thousand dead by the end of January. So we can't go to

the funerals. You can't you can't even grieve together. You know what? What what does death mean to you doing? You know now that I've gotten older and understand and death and you know, I have my parents and you're never prepared, but sometimes you prepared, you know. And the closest person I've had to die to me was my grandparents. You know, I understand it because we're not here forever,

you know, we're not here. And I hate to sound so cliche, is like what the church start us, but we're really not, you know, because I look at my parents. My parents are seventy eight, seventy nine. I looked at my my aunt this weekend. My aunt and uncle. They're slowing down on us, you know, they're slowing down. So it's coming to it. It's gonna be a time that they're gonna leave, even though I'm gonna be okay with it, but it doesn't mean I'm not gonna miss him, you know.

And that's why I made it a point. I know, with all the coronavirus and we're not I made a point to come home because I have to see my parents. You know. At this time, this is they all I have. I'm not married, I don't have any children, so this, you know, I have to look out for him and I have to take care of them. For New Hampshire. You know, something go wrong. I'm on the phone, you know, and I have other aunts. Everybody's slowing down on man. I know it's gonna be a time that, okay, they

leave him, you know. And you know what. My neighbor, her daughter just died Christmas Eve, forty two years old. She died from corona. You know, No, she had an infection. Now from Corona, thank God, now from Corona. But this is the time of the year, y'all know, from November than he's given Christmas time in the first of the year. Everybody flying out out of here. It's just the people that are leaving the surprising, you know. And in springtime it's gonna start up again. You know. So even though

we don't, we think we could live forever. I mother tell me all the time, Oh suck, let me tell you all all kind of you have everything low. Let me tell you right now, everything is low. Every thing is falling. Understand. I got a lot of ship that's fallen. But look, look slaim. My mother is seven and nine

years old, and I always sees it. When she buys another piece of jeary, I said, well get it, I said, I probably have it in the next twenty years when we leave, she said, she said, oh no, I'm gonna be gone before that. Long. That is a that is such a wonderful place to be. And I'm gonna ask you about death long because long comes at it for with us from a younger age. But that is a wonderful place to be to accept, to know that one

day you are definitely going to leave Mark. I think Mirke Luther King said in his sixty three memoirs, once you accept death, you're free. Once you know that this this is inevitable for everyone, it's going to happen to you. Baby, You're free because I'm like, come on, God, God don't want me leave it with this. Let me leave it with this. I'm gonna tell you what my mother always sell me. They are worse things than dine. You ain't. We got him here in the White House right now.

I have a great year. Baby, I seen you out of here. So Lord, so death mean see, I'm older death and have you has anyone close to you have a pass on and you had to deal with that? Yeah? Um, I have My grandmother I think was like the first. My dad's mother was the first real death I had to deal with um at a young age. She died when I was about eight years old. And then um, my next major one was actually my aunt, who's my grandmother's sister. She died well, I was in college and

I couldn't go to the funeral. But um, I don't know. Death is something hard I think for for me to accept, at least when I I don't know. I just I'm not an emotional person and I don't deal with emotions well um and well okay, I mean seriously me too. And it's like when things happen, I realized that I'm more so will kind of hold them in rather than dealing with them up front. I don't want to cry,

you know, I don't like to express really how I feel. Um, that's I think that's also too why I like being alone a lot because I get to, you know, really decompress and figure out my own thoughts and feelings for myself. And it may not be the most healthy thing, but overall, uh, death is not something that I think that I've arrived in my life where I can just accept it's something. Yeah, Nick, what about you? I think I think you know me well enough to know we've we've kind of had the discussion.

I think, Um, my biggest challenge would probably be, you know, losing my mom. Um. I think I've experienced loss in the family, but I can't think of anyone who has been, um, you know, a tougher critic, bigger cheerleader or or anything, or more influential in my life than my mother. And um, so yeah, same here same here. I need rose that lier to be about a hundred and twils. Let me just say, because I know your baby girl, I can deal with all this this thing as a big old

emotional baby baby. I can't hold him up. He thinking at me. But but you know you talked about too. Just hey, enjoy life, be responsible, but enjoy life while you here because uh, and again, I don't know if I missed us in the exchange, but it was it was your mom who said, uh, how many times have you seen a U haul following the hearse? Exactly? And we hold on and that goes to the whole pity point. We want to hold on to money. We want to hold on to the most property. We gotta have the

most shoes. That is so irrelevant when you leave to go here, because I believe, I do believe that there's a heaven, and I do believe it as a hell. I don't know what the hell we're living in right now, but I do believe there's a heaven in the hell. Baby, I don't want to go to hell. They don't have any fans, you know where. I burned my fan every night. I'm old school. I put a fan on even in wintertime. I played my my fan every night. I think it's

just the white noise. Now I'm so YouTube. Uh, and I'm not going to hell because all this silicone is ship gonna meil. God just ain't ready for me and heaven yet because I talked too much ship and he was gonna I got some explaining to do. He gonna like, dude, I didn't give you, go back and get try it again and didn't come back. People keeps sending back and back and back. He's like, I ain't ready to deal with this bitch right here. But death is death. It

is to me. Um, just the involvement of everything is gonna happen now that it hurts when it's a baby or it's just a sheer accident that you didn't foresee coming. But then it makes you want to say, God him question you. You did wrong. You know I'm angry with you, and I think it's okay to have been angry with God. I've challenged God's process in my life several times. I've always humbled me. He's always re humbled me to my knees to say, Nigga, did not tell you I'm doing this.

You just in the way, and so I understand that at this age, but when I was younger, I did not kept challenging him, but it was going and going and going. But so death to me is how you perceive it and if you let it consume you. And I think that the love that you hold on for that person. So if it's a maid, a kid, a pardner, whatever that loves that with the mother and father, the love stage there. The love never leaves your heart. That's to me, that's what keeps them alive because you still

love that person. You ain't always got to tell the best stories about it because Y're gonna say some fun up about me as I'm dead. But it's okay because I'm gonna hear you and I'm gonna hunt you. Boo. I heard somebody talk about recently, uh that um, you know, Joe Biden was extending condolences I believe to someone in John Lewis's family. Um, and you know president like Biden lost his wife and his daughter. You're talking about losing

a baby, you know and everything there. Um, and he was saying that there will come to a you will get to a point it's hard to believe now where you will laugh before you cry off something that they said or did your the good memories will will take over the sadness, and and and and you'll you'll get to a better place. But because it just seems like that, it's just one of those things where I think we

all will have to face it at some point. UM. But you just hope that you, like me, are surrounded by people who love me, um, who will help me get through it, because I can see myself engaging in a whole lot of eating and just you know, just make sure I get all the correct penamens. Please asking for a friend. Okay, well we're talking about pennomics. Can we go to Nashville right now? Please? Yeah, let's let's talk about it. Take me there alone, Please take me there.

So as we all know, there was a huge bombing in Nashville, Tennessee on Christmas morning. UM. It was a recreational vehicle. It exploded in downtown Nashville. Three people were injured, damaging dozens of buildings and ultimately killing the actual bomber, who officials have identified to be sixty three or sixty three year old Anthony Q. Warner. UM. According to officials, Warner was present when the bomb went off and he

died in the bombing. Uh. They used DNA at the scene to match a sample that was taken at another location by investigators, and so far he's the only suspect at this point, you know. Oh, and I know all this is new and we're still learning more. But I have I have so many problems with this um and I want to make sure I'm sensitive. I understand that how having suicidal thoughts are a mental health issue, and that people get into really dark places and you want

them to get the health that they need. I think though, for me, Lauren Flame, Flame etso who are listening, it takes it to another level when, if indeed you are suicidal, that you choose to engage in a mission where you put others at risk or you want to harm others. Now, to me, it moves almost out of and I am not a mental health expert professional in the area, it moves out of me saying, you know what, I can't go on with the world as it is. I'm just

going to offer myself to something else. When I decide to buy materials allegedly make a bomb, allegedly drive an RV that people had seen parked in my yard through Google View and identify me, and I drive it downtown, I park it in front of a building, and then I even have the forethought to make a recording. This is going to explode in five four. I don't understand

the I don't understand the mentality behind that. Where on Christmas Day I want to do this in this way and possibly her mother's and found his body, the remains of his body allegedly, because I don't believe that that's that man. Let me just say that right now. I've said that because yesterday it was they found some remains, but they're not sure who it is. It was so charged. If it was so charged yesterday, what did it did changed? Because that's what when you burn up the evidence, you

burn up the evidence. But yesterday it was so charged. But today, I, first of all, I don't believe that's that's that man. I don't And I don't like the way they portrayed because it hadn't been a black man, he would have been a terrorist and his picture would have been up there before his name. But you see here always white man. He's not a terrorist. They're calling

him a bomber. And now you're referring to mental illness. Baby, he ain't mental ill If that's what that nigga wanted to do, black, white or indifferent, than that's what that nigga wanted to do. I'm with you on there. If you want to kill yourself, why you gotta kill everybody else? You can take some pills in the room, don't call nobody, turn your phone off the hook and they never got an answer, and float the funk on and go where

you're going. Because my grandmama raised me on that if you kill yourself, you go straight to a sea of fire where you burn in eternally in the darkness, where you never hear another voice. I was raised on I have raised my children on it. So no matter what the world thought at you, you're gonna have to deal with it because there other alternative is that you were burning the sea of fire and all eternity in the darkness and never hear another voice that terrorizes me in

Now that works for me. Teach you to your grandkids any who. I don't believe what you said, Nicholas about how he felt. I don't understand when people do all that man's murder. You gotta go kill everybody and then they're going to your next subject. When you were talking about do teens get a pass? Yeah, first of all, let me go first, because y'all ain't got no kids, and absolutely not. Goddamn, it's some ship that you crossed

the land. We are all born with the installment of you know, right from wrong, even when it's fucked up wrong and you still do it. I'm guilty of my dad himself. You know it's right from wrong. That's what everybody knows that. I don't care what kind of household you grew up in. You know the difference between right and wrong, whether it's stealing or lying or whatever. You put that on, you know, So people take that on all that ship about. They can get a path if

you kill. If one of these teams kill their mom and daddy because they tell them they can't play video games and then they cut, they'd be here them and it's happening now. So don't I ain't saying some strange ship that didn't happen in the seventies or the eighties. We can talk about Lizzie Morden. You go back to the forties. See she was there, I wasn't there, any who? Any who? If the mom and daddy is dead. They

didn't get a second chance. Baby. Sometimes when people be fucked up, they'd be fucked up mentally and there's nothing you can do about it, putting them in all of get them away from everybody because they're gonna harm somebody. But y'all want to give them jobs and badges and police. Uh. Oh, that's the difference. To come on on, I know what

the funk I'm saying. Well, what I'll say is this, Um, I do agree with the fact that if we just look at history, UM, black folks are not the ones that are bombing the churches and you know, committing the mass shootings at schools and all of those different things. So I will say that as one thing, and then you know, when it comes out that it's this white person, it's not. They're not labeled a terrorists. But you have somebody like you know, President Trump that's conveniently saying in

Charlottesville they were find people on both sides. But then you know, we have all of these protests around Black Lives Matter, and then Antifa comes up and they're all terrorists. So there's definitely a double standard there for sure. Um. In terms of teenagers, getting a second chance. Um, I think it depends on what the offenses. You know, recently in California, our new attorney general, thank goodness, Jackie Lacey has gone um our new attorney general just nobody likes her.

It's it's it's not it's common knowledge. Um. Our new attorney general actually signed into law that UH miners are going to be charged as miners and not as adults, which I think is great reform. I think it's great change. However, depending on what the offenses. So somebody like a Kyle Rittenhouse, absolutely not. He does not deserve to get a second chance, especially when he knows what he did. It was intentional. His mother drove him across state lines to to shoot

those folks at the protest that was happening. And then you have somebody like a Dylan Roof. Just no, those those types of egregious offenses do not deserve second chances because that type of hatred that I don't even know what to call it, just that uh evil, that that's something evil that you possess in your soul. There's no coming back from that, there's no reform from that. You can't, you know, give them therapy and they can come out

of that. On the other side, I don't believe that, you know, those certain types of offenses should receive the appropriate sentencing. That's how I feel, Nick. Wow, that's a lot to unpack, y'all. Uh, you know, I first of all, I want I want to go back, though, Like, in no way do I think we should allow what happened in Nashville to even come close to being conflated with the acts in Charlottesville, right, I think those are two different things. I also think Antifa has nothing to do

with Black Lives Matter. I think those are two separate things as well, but more importantly, with the Nashville bombing, I think, just so we're clear, I think the reason why Flame You did not have a positive idea initially is that because they did use DNA. Now, also in a bombing. I know this from having done news and covered numerous bombings. All of the evidence is never destroyed in a bombing. That's a myth that it never burns up.

There's always something from a plane crash, from a bombing that they're always able to retrieve, usually the components that were used. So I think it is reasonable that as quickly as they were able to identify these remains and tie a DNA because they also found family members who said, you know, he's been acting strange, signing away property and and telling people that Nashville is gonna remember his name.

They used all of this information, Hey, can we do a cheek swab they linked the DNA that when I buy uh, the the the whole idea around teens, I don't think we really kind of set that up for people to know what we're talking about and why. And it all kind of stems from an article that was written on Sunday in The New York Times about a young girl who was fifteen when she used the N

word in a Snapchat video to a friend. Someone saw that video, held onto it for five years, and when she got accepted to college, they released a video and then said, hey, University of Tennessee, don't let this girl in. She used the N word before. I don't know that I'm ready to put her in the same group as Dylan Roof and how reading how that's me though, and and and and I don't know if it requires being a parent to have a certain level of empathy. But

I do think that teenagers are redeemable. I think for the most part, teenagers can be redeemed. I think that, and I don't know where it came from, but somebody said even sent us have souls. I don't know if that's true, and I don't know if if we're but I do believe that everyone has value, and I think that if we do more, uh, that we can kind of, you know, step in and say, Okay, so I'm about to take this. I'm gonna take it here. So I think that's a convenient argument when uh, it fits the

appropriate race. I'm just gonna say that because the idea of teenagers being redeemable does is this something that would really apply across the boy for everyone? Gave you an example. I forgot that the gentleman's name, But there was a white boy a couple of years ago he committed he actually raped someone. He raped her, uh, and when he went to court, the judge gave him six months probation. That was Stanford Swimp. Uh, thank you. Do you know what I'm talking about? But then at the same time,

I recently saw another gentleman. I think he was in the state of Alabama. He was at a party with a white girl. They were hanging out um, they left together. They did not end up, you know, sleeping together. But I guess a parent of hers found out and all of a sudden she cried rape. He couldn't get the proper lawyers to support him, and he's doing ten years in prison. So to say that teenagers are redeemable, it's

it's like, for me, it's a convenient argument. I'll just say that because society does not say that for everybody. That's what I'll say. Back to what you said Originally, it depends on the crime, because some ship you just can't be redeemedful and not said to me. But you know, Nick, you ain't getting kids. I'd be glad when you do have a baby, because I can't Hollywaight, oh aunt Flame Gonnau your kid up. Mentally, I'm gonna have your kids so damaged. I'm then, you know an advance. Can you

hear me? Yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna have your kids good and damaged. I think, come on, you know, it's just that you know, we we we kind of we We have kids who are thirteen twelve. You know they're

using these social media they're putting stuff out there. I don't think they understand uh, there are kids who know the words to whop, their kids who know and there I do think the kids sing these songs, and I don't know that they censor themselves when they're singing Kindrick Lamar, And I don't know that because they sang the lyrics to the song, that they are inherently I don't I don't know. Again, I I don't know that I'm ready to label everyone who knows the lyrics to these songs

that nothing changed, Nicholas. When when we're kids, they called the little girl's fast, Oh she's so fast, she a fast the girl. And now they call them holes, same difference, And they just don't start with outside of our community, this starting their own community in our own house. Your mama said, oh you's fast, stop being fast, probably before your time. Lord. Now it's home, that's right, lord, mama, old school. Now it's you're being a little hole. Stop

being a Look. They change the word from holding thought now so it's you know, it's the same ship, just different words. It's can you imagine the parents saying that to their child. Stop saying I've seen mothers black women, because I don't know if any white women with their daughters I've seen black women call it. These bitches is

getting on my nerves to their daughters faces. You don't know the harm that that has done to their daughters, because me and their daughters were friends and they were coming crack to me in pain that their mother, their own mother called them a bit And I'm not saying this to tell nobody down, but I'm telling you words have power to depend on who it came from. Because if you don't mean ship to me, there's absolutely nothing you can say to me about me that's gonna cut

me to the quick. But if I loved and or hated you before, because they know me to hate you, I had that loved you, baby, you can say some ship and it will it cut me to the bone. It will so help me to the bone. So help me here, Flame, go back to it, because I want to make sure we're clear and as Flame that's are listening, where are we on this on teens? Our team's redeemable? That was that was a question. I mean, I would say it's I think it's a case by case basis.

I will say that I'm just saying I don't think that the norm. It's it's not the norm, and it's not fair across the board, is really what I'm trying to say here. But I do think it's on case by case basis. You know, some crimes are more egregious than others. But I mean, even with the girls saying the N word, you know, why why were you doing that? Why have so much emphasis on that? You know? When? Where did that break somebody's spirit? When did that? I mean, I know that and hit me when I tell you,

because I use the word all the time. So before my black community come after me, let me say this correctly. The word got the power. I know some slaves heard that before they died. I heard that. Then, you know, over say that what's her name? What was the poet's name? My edge was said that that was the last word of something. That word has so many levels of different meaning in the Black community and the black I'm only

talking about the Black community, right. That word has so many different capacities from love to hate, to anger to joy, to biddness, to receive into acceptance to a compliment to everything. So why don't we hear that word spoken outside of somebody outside of our community who don't understand all the different levels for that word or the impact that it has that we get so offended back now in my face and disrespect to me. I get that, but she

was going to a rap song. There was a video up this weekend where a man was in the store and he was buying a bottle or something and the man called him a nigger, and he kept nigger and he dropped the kingdom and man stay kept as cool and when he kicked the can, the man picked the can up and slapped five from that ass. I say, that's how you do it. I don't know what Montreal Jordan was talking about, but this is how we do there. That had tickled me, but here it was the disrespect

was in his face. This little girl may the video from five years before, we hold On to Ship. We got stuff holding onto insignificant bullshit. That's the cancel calls held on. We've just held onto bullshit for four years and these last twenty three days is about to be real shaky. But we ain't fighting that. We got to pick and choose better battles as a people, not just black people, but as a people period. And I think that can go to the case by case basis that

we're really talking about here. It just it depends on the situation. It does well. Flame mentioned four years of dealing with holding onto things. Is this the perfect segue? I think. So that's fat Nigga playing golf and y'all sitting at home, honey. And today the eviction mora moratorium

started right, so they can put people out as starting today. Well, more importantly, Flame, before before we talk about that, the important thing is President Trump believes you all have slighted the first lady because he believes she should have been on more fashion magazines. So quit talking about things that don't matter. Flame, nobody's talking about rent moratoriums. And let me give you the laugh and learned version of that.

She's always very nicely dressed. She looks beautiful all the time. Now let me give you the Nigga Flame on road version of that. Bitch, I don't give a funk how well you dressed. We bought them closed because we pay taxes that nigga only pay seven hundred and fifty dollars worth. Attacked them boots. That whole head on the other day costs more than that. Let me say what the funk I said that? Doe she be done? Oh Malanya is done.

From here to toe every time you see. Uh, the problem is we're sitting on the other side, hungry, looking at this. If we got a TV, if we got cable, if we got someplace to stay. I'm looking at how well dressed. Your wife is all my tax money that you don't want to pay taxes for, and you didn't want to sign a stimulus bill to give me some of my money back. So I can watch her at least watch her in my stomach. Don't be growling. At least I can watch this bea and I'm on the

full stomach. Nigga, where's the hypocrisy? Where's the outcrat on that? Well, there's a lot of hypocrisy here because I think in role it's just it's always entertaining for me. I will say, to see all of the things that Trump had to say about President Obama and all of the criticism that he gave him, and he's doing not only what he did, but ten times worse. He criticized Barack Obama for golfing too much. He's in Marlago every day and has been

there throughout his presidency. I think there's also a bit of jealousy there too, because Michelle Obama was the fashionista of the world while she was First Lady for those eight years and had every designer, every up and coming designer coming to her dressing her and just really and she was glorified for it, rightfully so because she was the first to take a photo, you know, with her

shoulders showing and all of these different things. So now when it comes to Trump, you know, some people backed out of dressing his wife because of the racist comments that he made. And I think people also failed to realize to Milanni is a lot like Trump. You saw what the Jackie said, did jacket saying I don't really care baby, Okay, I'm sorry, No, You're fine, And I

mean they are a lot alike. They really are. So this is also to an ego thing for Trump because he's always trying to compare himself to Barack Obama, and you can just never measure up. I'm just gonna go there, you're fat, your orange, You've got a bad to pay. Barack Obama has the most swag that a president has ever had. He wore a tan Easter suit, a tan

suit on Easter that raised all types of hell. You will just never compare get over it didn't that they look like the uncle from uh Mr Rogers neighborhood in that tan so I was like, come on, that was the black uncle cross the street. I was like, yeah, let's come on, Barack so flat in that tan suit. I just had a flashback. Mom. I'm sorry, what was we at? But I'm with Lauren on that. Lauren, there was a time when that was the biggest scandals. He wore a tan suit. Oh my god, who does that? Yeah,

And there's no comparison, and that's his issue. You know, he's just never going to measure up. It's an it's an ego thing. And now he's trying to put it on his wife too, because she's not getting the same admiration. You're not going to get the same admiration as Michelle Obama.

She was our first lady. She was a lady. And your wife supporn star and when it's authentic, it's authentic, y'all, and tried to copy every speech y'all, tried to copy other people's dress, the style, address, and way of life. But baby, when it's in you, it's in you. You came bad. And I think that's that's a message to some of these other helms, And I think the one one of the things the reason we brought this up is because Flame had just talked about how frustrating it

was and how where has he been? But now that he has signed the stimulus package, I am interested in Flame to hear what some of the flamemates may have to say, uh, just because now it looks as though they are moving forward. And is this enough for you know, are we just ready for this to be done or whatever? I don't know what six gonna do. And that's the true.

And then you made them wait for it. That is, and and Congresses or the House rather is working on, you know, making Trump a man of his word and actually providing these two thousand dollar checks for folks right now, which the Republicans are an uproar about because they don't want to do that. I feel bad for people. I really I wish I could help everybody, but I can't. But I really do with you because I know some people that's hurt. Hey. Hello, Hello, I'm sitting here doing

my nails. Just girl, I said, you getting up in full on dre How are you way into racing? We want to know what do you think about this Trump? Foolishness and this this stimulus package that he finally decided to saying on the golf course, I'm trying to use my words gently right now. It's OK. I think that um it goes back to the old adage that um uh, you always want what the Joneses have, thinking that the

grass is greener somewhere else. That's why he even saw out the presidency because he felt that he was gonna be a better president than Obama. And we all know that that couldn't ever have been possible because of his

character and who he has been in the past. So but um, I'm just um I I'm I'm just floored that he would think fashion would be anything of a type of topic for the presidency that he has given to this United States, and that he would think that we needed to honor his wife because of the clothes she's wearing, although the clothes she had not worn to become popular. He wasn't even addressing that. If you want to address her, address her full character, not just something

out of it. That money that was overspent for someone who's used to already dressing Uh foul, Let me just say foul, because some of her fashion was not taste. I just say it like it is. It wasn't tasteful. Um uh and um and so and and guess I agree with Lauren that she is very much like Trump and she is the one who pulled him around on five nose telling him what to do. She was the

one encouraging him to behave the way he was. That he didn't come up with all of that on his own, that it was her that was pulling him around by the nose and and and giving him the encouragement to be a fool. For the people, I've said that in love Lounge because people love to say, well, he was such a monster and she was so sweet. Understand that the wife always knows her husband, even if she don't want to face it. That goes back to the whole

frankistein very bit. But the wife knows her husband if he's a monster, and she stayed with him for thirty years and she knew he was a monster. There's a monster in her. But she's not a dumb either, though, because I feel like people a ume that she's stupid if we're just going to talk about it. The reason she didn't come to d C initially is because she was signing papers to make sure that her son Baron was covered when she decided to divorce Trump. You got

that right. So she's not stupid. She gangster with that baby, because I don't know what the hell Cardi b Was talking about. Because she went from a basic home to

the first lady of the United States. That's called the whopping the bop on the pop. Yes, but I also want to say that when we heard the audio of her speaking with her friend at the time, it really gave us a clearer insight as to the type of person she was and the fact that this season here in which he decided to be a total a whole and not sign that and try to drop people's hopes and say, oh, I'm gonna do two thousand dollars instead

of six hundred dollars. I know, my off topic, but I just have to say that she didn't care nothing about Christmas, um either, and so having a bunch of sad people over the holiday was not not anything to matter for either one of them. So um, yeah, well, we thank you for bringing it on in there, because you have, girl, you have shut it down. Listen, I'm with you. I understand. I live in the same America that you live in, and I see the same bullshit

that y'all see. I need y'all to open y'all asscause some of y'all don't see it. Oh everybody is that, But yeah, I'm with y'all. I'm with you. Lord baby, you can't be that far removed from the devil and you ain't party devil. Seriously, it's just and I think it's so interesting because she's not in the spotlight. You know, people aren't really looking at her all the time that people think that it's really just Trump and oh she's she might be a little nice, but it's not the situation,

you know. To Teresa's point, the audio came out, she was complaining about Christmas. Why do I have to do this? I don't care about these people. She had the coat, you know, when the whole issue was going on with children being locked up in cages and separated from their parents, she doesn't care. Do you think she's going to divorce? And immediately after this, did you not see the Penske truck that pulled up the day he lost the election?

She was like, packed this up, bro out, Let's come on get together, she said, let me get these good I did you see the photo? I did see there your photoshop photo. No, I think it was very accurate.

She was like, packed this up, we're leaving. They had to pack up all that special furniture because you know, for Bear and Bearing got that special furniture exactly so special sauce, baby, man, it's to all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on your you know what, You're gonna leave Bearing alone? You know what? Lauren mentioned something earlier. I just want to touch a base on It. Turns out, Lauren, you would mention how um, we often ignore racing different situations.

Now we're quick to call it out. It looks like the army sergeant that shooting at the bowling alley, it looks like the Rockford, Illinois And that's like for anybody who doesn't know, it's like northwest of Chicago, and it looks like they literally just came across the wires. The judge denied his bail, um, And it looks like the

three people that he killed were shot randomly. He did not even know them, um, and all three were African American, So like he targeted certain people at this particular bowling alley. There were people there who were not African American, and it looks like uh Duke Webb, thirty seven years old, faces three counts of murder and three counts of first degree attempted murder for injuring three people um in the shooting at Don Carter Lanes and Rockford, Illinois. I mean,

he's in jail with no bond. He's in jail with no bond. Flame good because you know, they say that you are bond and then they throw up a fucking go fund me and everybody started donate money to the killers. A little disappointed active duty service member, but you know, hey, uh this will will definitely figure itself out, you know. But yeah, I mean, but I will say this, Nick, I think it does touch on the mental health part that you were speaking about earlier, because I do agree.

I think mental health is something that's not talked about enough, especially in communities of color, and it's something that we should be open to. You. I'm sorry, I'm just saying I think mental health is something that should definitely be discussed. However, there's also a part of that too, where don't make that the convenient argument to justify white people shooting people of color. What you're about to say? It was like it was like the recently saying that they tried to

say that mental illness and racism were linked. It was the same thing. So that's what I'm saying. So now he's mentally ill and he's racist. How scary is that? But y'all keep giving them badges and calling them officers. I'm just saying, how scary is that that they mentally ill and they racist? Because if you're racist, and they say that that is the equivalent of being mentally ill,

it's the same thing. But you keep giving racist jobs as fully officers, put them in our neighborhoods where they don't understand addiction or how we speak to each other or how we communicate and how we live. That's fucked up. So now don't say that it's mentally ill as racism. It has to be two separate things, because that means, do you know, it's seventy three million mentally ill people they voted for Donald Trump? That's true, though, that's not

y'all stop ya you gotta say. I just said it's seventy three million people voted for him this year, which means that if racism and they voted because they were racist, because a lot of Republicans jump ship. They didn't even want to deal with his ship no more. If they all voted for the because there was racist we got seventy three mental I mentally ill people walking around around me. Bitch, my neighbors. This, they're get here in the office with me, Knda,

They're gonna be playing on this phone. This crazy, this is what you do. Just what I'm saying that that's that's that is. Don't do that. They have to be separate because that's scary to think that they're not right. And honestly, I see a comment too from teach in hey t t Gen. She said racism is taught, and I would agree with that too, because it's something that's ingrained in you as you grow up. You know. I don't. I don't my opinion, I don't think anybody is just

born race born a racist. I think that it's something that your parents teach you, you know, you get from society, and then you ultimately say, Okay, yeah, this is how I feel and this isn't fair. Because I think that's also too. It goes with it with a lot of these mass shootings and different things that we see from white folks. Is they ultimately think this isn't fair. Well, why does this black person or this Latino person have this and I don't have it? But you know what, Lauren,

I'm going to jump in there and say this. I think at some point the sense of the parent can no longer be uh an excuse right uh. And I say that simply simply because I think it is possible parents just don't know any better. At some point, you become an adult, You leave home, you move around, you interact. At some point you have a responsibility to educate yourself and try to learn more about things that maybe you did not grow up with, you did not see in

your everyday life. You don't get to float around when my mother didn't teach me about such to say, so I'm just gonna walk around with this attitude about such and such. You know, you give me saying that that you have to Yeah, yeah, definitely. But it looks like this guy was an active duty service member and he is definitely being held flame without bond right now. So

there we are. Let's see what actually happens with him, because we still have somebody like a Kyle Rittenhouse who is out on bail, and you have congressmen in Florida saying he should run for Congress. Okay, back to the state of Florida. Hey, Florida Manny petty state Baby, let me tell you something. Us in Florida, baby, and I think about coconuts just losting us, you know which, which which is a perfect opportunity for me to remind everyone

who's listening. If you want to sound off of about what's like, just say you live in a great state of Florida. Remember to subscribe, comment, and share, because we want everybody involved in the conversation. The fond Steve feedback and the messages that you all have sending the comments. They really do mean a lot because we're reading them and and so are our bosses and everybody I don't read them. Today is a very scary day in America, and we're gonna I'm getting on this not off topic,

this is actually on top. I have to bring Nicholas back because it's important because Nicholas wants to help everybody. If Nikolas had all his money right now, Baby, probably give it all the way. I won't let him get all this money right now. But rent today the moratorium stops. People will start being evicted if if you don't have a communication, if you don't have the money, that's one thing.

But please always try to communicate with your landlords or whoever the bank is that you pay your mortgage too, because I'm telling you, if they don't hear anything from you, the next move is to cover their own asks, which is started even eviction noticed, or come to you to say, hey, what are you gonna do? But you can finago gas company, you can put something down on like you can pay something on rent a center, you can pay some on

your phone bill. You can't pay nothing on rent. If you can't pay the for rent, a lot of landlords will put you out. But if you have an open line of communication, even if you don't like each other, let them know what's going on because a lot of times they use that money for insurance and upkeep on the property, and they not give nothing because you're not giving them anything. It's it's about to be real scary.

But Beyonce put up half a million dollars Lord Hogan half a meal five thousand dollars a piece to one people was in in Houston. Yeah, And isn't that the interesting pieces. We were just talking about her last week and how it wasn't her responsibility to take the back to be at the forefront of saying you should take the vaccine. And I will just add to that part. I don't know Nick if you saw, but the Surgeon General Adams also called on Lebron James to do the

same thing, which I didn't appreciate. But to go back to what Flame was saying, is that, yes, Beyonce gave over half a million dollars to the folks in Houston to make sure that they were able to just be able to stay in their house for another month or however long that five thousand dollar stretches. So we have these celebrities that are doing the jobs that our government is failing to do for us as citizens and as

a people of America. So, Lauren, would you say that again, because it is not the responsibility of Beyonce Knows, Lebron James or anybody else. UH. This is what community and you voting and you being part of the UH civic process is all about. We are supposed to have representatives that look out for the interests of everyone, even those who did not vote for them. You know, UM, I

did not vote for President Trump. Uh, and even if I had, I would hope that the one who was representing the country had my best interests at heart to UM, as did Joe Biden pledge to do who said that, Hey, I'm the president of those who did not vote for me as well, but our local and state representatives. I feel like Flame Lauren have UM just failed so many of the people who are just trying to make it

day today, UM literally living paycheck to paycheck. Well, since we're talking about voting, let's talk about high important Georgia. Y'all really need to come out because he has put out that he will be in Georgia next week for another super spread, another rally in Georgia, really trying to alley up the truth because osof have caught caught up. So we are neck and neck down in Georgia. But we got to take this in order to make any

changes in this country. If we're sick of these mass shootings and we want this reform, if we want better housing, better equality and all that ship Georgia, it's all on y'all right now, because you guys hold the key. If we can get these two seats osof and warnut if we can get those two seats and we can tie up the Senate, we tip Mitch McConnell's black ass hands because you know theygna thinking white, but the hands is turning black, and something wrong with you. Nick. I'm just saying,

but this is what we have to do. We really have to get out and get out there and get that voting. And so tell all your friends or Grahama, get them to the post. This one is probably more as important as to Slash. It's just as important because he's gonna tie us up. We're not gonna be able to get any laws or any bill's past. Miss McConnell is on the mission, and now Trump is trying to make up. See first, Trump was mad at miss mcconnald,

so he threw him up under the bus. But somebody didn't got the Trump's is since he'd been at Mara a Lago. Going to Mari Lago is dangerous, y'all for us because when he goes to my a Lago, you don't have to go through the political protocol and security to speak to this nigga. You can just walk up to its fat as with a McDonald's sandwich because you

know the nigga eat McDonald's. You come up to him with a big mac of some ship and he's gonna just let you come on in and he don't given where you got a gun or not, and you could just have a conversation. This is where all his detriment comes on when he set these crazy tweets. It's always when he on vacation on our damn in Mara Alago because he ain't pay no taxes and he wants us to make up bare stress. I'm not gonna make that

bitch bet dress. If the bitch wants to be best dress for me, she should wear about a sass ten or twil so I can fit that ship. I can't even fit nothing that ship like that. But I don't even like claim you were talking to about the vote in Georgia. One of the stories that we did today, more than two point one million votes have already been cast in Georgia. UM and that's in a runoff election. And this is according to the Georgia Secretary of State UH.

And they include both by mail and in person early voting, so people are turning out in record numbers. I think it was about forty thousand more people had done early voting than even in the presidential election. So it was definitely, uh, you know, a pleasant sight to see of that happening. But I'm honestly okay with Trump going to Georgia. I

don't know how you guys feel. I'm okay with him going to UH to Georgia on the fourth, the day before you're supposed to you know, vote in person, because supposedly he's going to take all his conspiracy theorists with him and more so focused on the fact of this last and final January sixth vote with uh the electorate to say I won the election. So I'm fine. Let him go down there, let him make everything about him, let him get people all rolled up about conspiracies and

vote in his base. Those seventy three million people that flame talked about that are mentally ill not go out, and I'm kind with that. Well, it's either one. Either you're gonna accept that you're mentally ill or you're racist because you can't help them. You can't be you gotta pick and shoo. Did you just drop the title to our next pick? I want to say before we release, since we were talking about the fabulist Nose family and Beyonce,

because I know I'm part of that family, y'all. Y'all do know I'm related to the Nose family because let me, I got four reasons. Let me. Let me get you to four reasons. I do Beyonce music face, I do Beyonce music. I'm crazy like the sister Solange cancer, I look like the mama Tina, and I got dick like the daddy Matthew. Baby, and let me tell them I'm a stepbrother from this family. I need you to just reach out, Beyonce, and why are you sitting out driving

sues you ain't sending me? Now a girl, fast girl, I'm losing weight. I get a movie wrong. Secondly, I just want to encourage everyone to really really take the time to follow precautions. I y'all know I don't fool without you. I don't trust fout you at all. But I have been watching some stuff that they're saying that that the the mutated virus is way worse. Please be careful, Please wear your mask, Please wash your hands, Please do whatever has been working for you for the last nine months.

Continue to do that, please, because baby, people are dying and recond numbus and if you don't have to visit somebody, pick up the phone. Car. I love that Don went to see her Niggas. That made me think of you. I need you to go see Ms Rosetta. I know Mr Rosetta ain't working with you in her house, but I need you to stand outside and look at your mom because Nicholas is very close to his mom and he has not seen his mother in a year. Don't start it either, because you know he has started crying

all the game back. I see the miss but it just I know that's important to so many people and the risk factor. Sometimes, like I explained to Nikolas, sometimes the parent is saving you because they feel like I'm old. I'm gonna be here, whatever's gonna have, it gonna happen. I'm helping you because you know, I don't want you to come and then something to have but to me, and you hold on to that guilt, and that's why I was trying to explain to you. Sometimes your mom

is looking out for your best entries. You just don't understand it. So y'all do whatever y'all got to do. We're gonna close. I'm gonna let y'all get your closing thoughts out. Did I come on ething? I just want to remind people. I just want to remind people to subscribe, comment and share the show. We talked about a number of topics. We really do want it to be a transfer of information and an exchange of ideas because we are not here to change your mind. We just want

you to what use your mind, use your man. Whatever you feel. However you feel about something that way, they ain't nobody else's. I can't blame you can't blame nobody but yourself. And sometimes it turns out to be a good thing. You can blame yourself for a good ship, Ain't that right? Nick? Absolutely absolutely see Nick glad he met me. I'm not like none of his other friends.

I call him every day. Okay, let Lauren Hogan. I just want to say to you, in front of all you people that's on here, that you have been such a breath of fashare for the show. You have been like an unexpected blessing because I didn't foresee this happening. But I love the addition that you bring to the show. And I've said this on Love Lounge and on my

other ship. I do on laugh. So I ain't telling you know what I told them because you just I'm telling you Lauren, you just click and girl from from if you go back to week one when Lauren was first song, she was a little too and quiet baby that found her voice. Baby, you can't shut it down. And we love it well, I think to h through our friendship and you know we're growing even working as you know, partners and everything. Um, we're learning a lot more about each other. So I'm grateful for you for

giving me this opportunity. I love talking and having this conversation with you and Nick, So thank you for just for allowing me not only to be your manager too, but to also interact with you in this space. Um, it's been really amazing. And y'all see how nice and sweet she is. But on that manager side she monster baby that ladies not playing by my money. Oh I love it. I thank you guys, but thank you kend doing trouble listen. I've been learning was so great today

because of their conversation. Do whatever works for you. We almost into a new year. I will see you guys at Love Lounge later on. And when is the Georgia Senate Races of Race is January, and I'm telling you guys, it is so important that not only are you reach year, but take people. This vote is so important for us to get some things changed because they're gonna tip Biden and harrass his hands in the White House. That on purpose, because miss McConnell has said it out loud, on purpose.

He's going to do to them what he did to Barack Obama. So I'm telling you now, Georgia, we got a lot rading on you right now. And I'm rolling with Georgia because we flipped Georgia blue. I know y'all can do it. Get your asses up and go do it. Because that other that law f funny looking bit. I don't even like her, look that she ain't qualify. I just don't like her. Look shit, this is remember that canto, bitch. Do what I do cause can beach do what you do?

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