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you spirit. You think you want to revisit, tell your first take a listen, tell folks say it slip all folks that we take it to. No this, do what you do, nokis, do what you do? Can't no kiss, do what I do? No flame? What a flame? It? Come doun in that room which were thinking, well, hello everyone, welcome, welcome, Come on, y'all, come on. If we even introduced you, boy, I'll come on the show. Is this this is laugh and learning, laugh and flaming. Bro and new fans, y'all.

See the new fans, y'all, see the new fans that came in. Do your job playing, Do your job play what else we got here? You take one. Okay, okay, what's your wrong with me? I just look like I just look like that. That's okay, I feel Look what about that one? That's the one right there, y'all and we have a he she we shaan hit you over

with a wink. The fans are in y'all. I'm not shipping the mouth, so I don't start asking how you can meet me in Chicago on September two six for the White Party and you can get a fan uh huh? At that pretty pretty? And there we go, there we go. I'm a backwards queen, so yeah, pretty, look pretty pretty? Do your job playing? So lay Jim and thank you guys for joining us here today at Laugh and Learn. I am your host Slaming Row. This is my partner

learning Hogan Um and we appreciate you guys. We have our camera, got Kendall here too, because Kendall gonna be some ox tails with us later. You have our sails so you can tell me though I'm eating when the shows over. Actually they were very tasty to see. I'm a good teaching Speaking of teaching, Thank you guys for joining us today. It has been a week. Lady and gentleman. It has been a weekend, let me say that, and it ain't even got staw it yet. We didn't get

to that conversation later. I'll just say a piece of blessings that you made it back on time. Oh my god, because here we wasn't playing with y'all. Listen. I had to send flames and very mean emojis yesterday because she was playing with my emotions in terms of the time over the weekend. And she didn't even have a gumming who was acting like she was with the Lord. I was definitely with God and I wasn't with I was

talking to him, but I wasn't sitting with him. She got some guns and knives emojis from me this Weekena, So New York, I went to New York. So my purpose for going to New York was to go to Ida rod Riquez, who is my girl from they Ready she take her when I was special for HBO and I promised her I would be there. So that was my purpose for going. Just other things the reason why I was there, which were great, we think so. But

I am glad to be home. Thank you Henry for letting me out to lorn How it was your week? Did you no, thankfully. Actually, I was supposed to go to Jackson, Mississippi this Thursday because we were going to do this big concert with one of the radio stations

there for my other other job. And basically we decided to cancel it because of all the COVID numbers, like Mississippi is the worst state right now, so we just kind of made the executive decision it wasn't safe and so I get to stay here for to it, which was segways us until I've heard the conversation that today the FDA approved the vaccines for fighter so the and now it is fd approved, will that change some minds?

Possibly even mind possibly possibly even mine, because now I feel like, you know what, maybe now they get it right. So I'm just gonna I'm still not I'm still Teeta tartering, but at least now I feel now I feel a little saving that it's been FDA approved. So yeah, I'm still thinking about it. I'm still thinking about it, but I think that you've come a long way to even be considering it because we've we've had a lot of conversations about this, and oh you don't want to see me.

I do want to see what I don't have as my real glasses. I left my glasses in the house, so I can't see none of the comments. But know what I'm saying is I think that's a good thing. You know that you're even still considering it because we've had lots of conversations just about you've got some type of protection is better than none, and you know you would hate for something to happen to family members, which is why I got it in the first time. Well, I'm seventy COVID tests in as when do we take

the birthfastbut Friday as a Friday. I just had in my seventy COVID tests seven zero and I had to pay for that one, and I'm negatively still and I'm having another one on Wednesday because it's Friday. What are you doing? We will be on TVs Friday Night Vibes with Tiffany Hannish and Dr Code. So I'm aware of gown for y'all, friend and get y'all, give it to y'all, Give it to y'all. So we're gonna get to this

fd air proved. I love the fact that they that they're moving so quick to try to get this done. So more people can get vaccinated, because it's coming down to you're going to have to be vaccinated in order to any to do anything. They had restaurants in New York when I was there that I couldn't go in because I didn't have that same car. The same thing in New Orleans too, And who would have thought New Orleans was one of the first states. So it's changing, y'all,

The world is changing. You have to have that car. That car gonna be like, gonna have me a new joke because Angel leeves like flame, you got to have a vaccine card in order to get in here and get in there. I said, girl, I know people. She said, no, you have to have a car. I said, girl, I got a fake t Do you think I can't get a fake car? I don't have what I was just making a joke. You have to watch that interview tomorrow. We're gonna get to that because you know, that's the

that's the meat of the show. Right now, we're just giving you the Virgians. So, but let's kind of start with something that happened this weekend that I know is all in the blogs, all in the news. Is she carry Richardson? You know she ran the one dred in the Prefontaine race, and she finished in ninth. It was, and she finished she finished in last. Wow, that goes to show you that you only as good as your

last show. Well, this is what I would say is I know a lot of people online are coming for her, and we're not going to sit up here and act like she hasn't made some very obnoxious comments, whether it was you know what she said about little Noazac's basically saying if you follow him, just then follow me now. And I just think that she's very young, she has she got a lot of you know, a spotlight put on her at such a young age, and she's getting so much scrutiny you don't always really know how to

respond to it. So I think that she's made some you know, egotistical comments, but overall, you know, she basically congratulated the runners and said, you know, this is not gonna be my last you know race by any means, and it's a learning experience and she's kind of you know, chalking it up to say I'll be back and I'll be doing better. So I think she was humbled by this, and maybe she kind of needed to be humbled a little bit, and that way she can just kind of

practice humility going well. Isn't that kind of like what we said about the baby last week, that she needs somebody around her as well too, because when you're when you're good, when you're when you're fantastic, because she is a fantastic runner, but you have to have a sportsmanship, You have to have somebody in your head to keep you grounded, like, yeah, you are the greatest, but you can't keep believing that you're the greatest, that nobody else

will be as great as you, because that's when she gets cloudy. And if you get misjudged and you mess up. Yeah. So I just think you know, she was humble because nine place that was their last and she was winning everything. Yeah, and you know, it's just she has some of that heavy weeds. She has some heavy weed. It's sloading down. I think it was very embarrassing for her, But like I said, I think she's taken as a learning lesson.

And she even apologized for the initial comments she made after the race and came back and said, this is what I meant to say. And I think just by her doing that is showing that she's been humbled, and she understands that she needs to practice the humanity and and will we accept her apology? Yeah, we will accept. I think that as a people, black, white, brown are indifferent that we need to accept apologies from everyone because you're gonna make a mistake. You're not perfect, You're gonna

make a mistake. And did you want to need to apologize for Should I make plenty of I'm gonna make one this more? Yeah, But like you said, I think she needs somebody in her corner. I mean, maybe not a publicist, but just somebody that has some sense of how, you know, pr works, so that way they can kind of say, hey, stay off Twitter, or hey you don't

need to be saying this, you know. So, But it's definitely you can see it's in the learning process for her and she's kind of figuring this out for herself, and we all and we all, and we all. Good God. It is definitely a life lesson. And thank god that they're not just canceling everything, you know, because she made some outrageous statement. Oh no, they're coming for her. Let's be clear, they're coming for her. Well, so, which I don't think it's cool either. We shouldn't be beating down

you know, especially she's so young. And the internet, you know, it's a foul place, it really is. If you're gonna reprimand don't reprimand without teaching. That's all I'm saying. You're gonna reprimand me, reprimand me and teach me so that I don't make the same mistake again. Now, you know they saying you can't teach your old dog new trick. I may not be an old dog, but I'm damn sure a medium cat, Lauren, it is. Um. So let me give you all the good news before we get there.

So thank you, oh my god, thank you Ken, because I am I ain't seen that. I can't even see my hair. Okay, there it is. So we were resigned by uh my heart and the Black Fake Network and Charlemagne the Gods to another year of laugh and learned. Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank you so much. We appreciate that we are gonna get a face lift. We're going in a different direction. We made some changes. Who will come down the land later, but I think it's the new show, the new show that

the new format that we have. I think it's going to catapult us and to something. And the Black Pag Network has just acquired a YouTube page or to help with our publicity and our pr and they got a publicist. So I think things and I'm Charlemagne hired me for his new show on Comedy Central, So I'm excited about that, executive produced by Stephen Kolbert. I'm moving in different spaces and different places, and yeah, so I'm going to that.

You said too that you want to make sure because we're switching kind of from the politics avenue that we're in, so you kind of want to form us to chime in and say what they would be interested. Yeah, we want to know what you guys were like to see from us. Um, because we're going in a different directions. I don't want to do gossip, but we would like to talk about regular topics. But and we will still do politics. You cannot get away from politics if you

awoke and grown and this this society. But we want to know what you guys would like to see from us. What kind of show would you all like to see? Uh? Yeah, so we're looking forward to that and we're gonna keep it moving and we just want to tell everybody thank you for making a show successful. We appreciate it. We appreciate giving us another year because this was our building year, this was our growing year. So now we're going to another year. We're going to go in a different direction,

and I think it's going to be great. I agree, I'm excited. You can put your suggested Bobby, you can send it to me, or you can put them on here. We're gonna we're gonna do a thing because we're gonna look at it. Yeah, or you guys can send you know, me a dam or saying if you can't even send Flame the damn, I'll look at it. So because you know, Flame doesn't want to look to the dames. But unless you're cute, look at that. Look at what else are

we talking a? So you want to get into the nitty gritty of everything, you want to just let's talk about it. M that's what that? That's what that I want to hear, so first and foremost, I know, initially, Flame is an interview of the Breakfast Club was supposed to come out this morning. However, anybody that has a tablet currently sees that her photo of her and Boosey has now gone viral and the blogs are in uproar about it. So due to that, the interview has been

delayed today. It's going to come out tomorrow. But you can see part of the interview that Flame did with Boosey. It's up on YouTube on the Breakfast Clubs channel right now. So this part of the show is going to turn into I'm gonna basically be interviewing Flame. I'm really gonna be a troll at this point of the interview, Kendall. I don't know if you could put like some devil horns on me or something, but I'm going to turn

into a troll. Now. We're gonna have a very very open and honest conversation, and we'll bring in the Flame mats as well to kind of sound off, and he likes to obviously be in the comments as well. So let's talk about little blocy not to start with, why do you like this man so much? Because I like his realness. I like that he is authentically who he is. He's very genuine and as a parent as a dad, I watch how he raised his sons on what he

shows us on social media. Now it's a little abstract for some people, but he is who he is and his kids are not hungry, his kids are not homeless, His kids don't look broke down. He is there, he's hands out and you might not like the way he raised his children, but that's not your call to make. That's his call because those are his children. He's still

right there. It's a lot of dads who don't speak like Bucy speaks, who don't who not in the lamb like, who are wealthy and don't spend no time with their children. He is there with his children. I appreciate him for that. I like his wrap and that. You know, when I was a young girl, niggas might get down, but when I was not, I didn't know that he was going to be at the breakfast club. So when he walked in the room, we had to get a COVID test. So when he walked in the room, I fucking screamed

like I failed out like the last city, y'all. I did. I promise you I did. Because if you're a flame mat and you follow me, you hear me always talk about Little Boozy that I like Little Boosy. I like what he represents as far as that hard. You know, then of course he said some things that are extreme that I'm like, oh, who do that? Ain't cool? But who am I to say what he can? And can I say? He like? He said, he his own man, he'd make his own money, he did his own thing,

and he was respectful to me. I understand that. I don't know how he treated nobody else. He was respectful to me. If you watch the inter it, he called me she she she he was? He said, I foxed, were flame. He was cool because I didn't come in with a with a comebative energy. I came in like a fan and what's up, boozy? You know. I greeted him like a grown up because he is a grown man and soul and I'm grown. I almost had the kids there. I forgot I had this leg. So I

hear you say, and I could. I can understand that and even kind of agree and say that. You know, we have no saying how Blousey raises his kids. But I think the issue is is when you see some of the things that he said about his kids, and how there's a various biased view between son and daughter, which is very normal. I'm not about to sit up here and say that that's my dad is too most

like most men are. But I think the issue comes in is when you know the topics of oh, he's you know, providing himself with prostitute and making these very misogynistic comments. And at the end of the day, he's still a public figure and he's supposed to be, you know, presenting this certain image quote unquote, So why are you still kind of okay with that aspect of it? Even

and your dad too, so touch on that part. So when he when he first talked about maybe a year or so ago, that he took his son to a older woman to have sex with. Uh, I don't know if she was a protest or not. She couldn't, but he said the older woman he paid her. So But when he broke it down and explained it on the Breakfast Club, I completely understood it. Because the son is sixteen years old, he was already having sex or I

was about to have sex or whatever. He had already experienced some things, is what's exactly what Boosey said, And he took him to somebody that was older and experienced, so it wasn't uncomfortable. Um, when he explained it, Laurence, I got it, you know what I mean. When I first read it or heard I didn't get it, but when he explained it to me on the breakfast Club, I was like, oh, you know what that you took the time to break it down to explain it to me.

I understand. Do I agree with the completely Absolutely not, But at least I took the time to listen to understand. And that's what we keep getting long set because we just hit the trigger words and want to fight an argue. I thought he was a good egg. I thought his energy was good. Uh. And that's very true. It's a different generation he's and he's in Baton Rouge. The reasonana he was raised there. Their raising of their children is

very different from us. But it was okay. I thought he was okay because he explained it in a way that another parent, especially a dad who has a son who wants him to have a good sexual experience his first time, I could understand. I know that sounds a little fun fest, but if you're not a parent or a dad, you might not understand it. And that's all I'm saying. I'm on that one, but I thought even and I know he he is who he is. You know what I respect about him the most. He knows

who he is. He knows it might be for better or for worse. But it's so many people who look more successful than him in life and and uh working in uh corporate America or the suits and whatever, that don't even know who they are in politics, they don't even know. He knows who he is. He and he

accepts it and he embraces it. And that's all and the only way we're gonna ever me in between the heterosexual community and a gay community, even with some of the ship that stream ship that Boosey has seen it in the past and probably will say again, if we don't sit down and talk to each other and listen

to each other, it ain't gonna never get fixed. So and I know that you never want to be like a spokesperson for the LGB teacher community just because your community is in opposition a lot of times with you. But what do you say to the homophobic comments that he has made, whether it was towards Little nas X or just gay people in general, and you do identify as trans, like, what do you say to that? Well, I would say that I probably had a view of

him that was differently until I met him personally. His publicist, his publicist was Twinkle Tolls gay? Uh? He said somebody else that worked on his team was gay. So it's not that he has an issue with gay people. He has an issue with some things that he sees that happens in the gay community, and he just voices his opinion. Now, sometimes it's not warranted. But should we all voice in

opinion that sometimes not wanting? Myself included. Let me play Devil's advocate though, Um, I told you I'm gonna be a troll today, securely so. But you're saying though that he has, like you know, a gay manager and a gay assistant. What's the difference between when white folks say, I'm not racist, I got a black friend. You see how that can kind of be do you the same

way I do? But that's also comparing gay to the black struggle, Okay, and I never you know, that's the thing of man, We don't compare gay to the black struggle because the black struggle will always supersede the gay struggles. I'm saying, in principle, don't look at it so black and white as the gay vers the black struggle. I'm talking about from a principal standpoint, it looks like he's trying to say I can't be homophobic because look, I got a gay assistant and a gay manager, So how

can I be homophobics Well, I don't know. I don't know. I just, you know what, long because maybe I'm old school. I treat people the way that they treat me. I walked in the room. He came in the room, and let me tell you something. So when he came and I don't want to tell you all this, I'm gonna tell you all anyway. So when he came in the room, I was so excited, but I had to remember that I remembered his comments. I remember some of his views that he have said publicly. So I wanted to take

a picture with Boosey because I'm a fan of Booty. Said, that's what you'll have to understand. I am a fan of Booste. So I went to his manager, who was sitting on the other side of the room, and said, do you think you were man if I take a picture with him? He heard me asking the man, he said, I'm right here, baby, you could take a picture with me. I was like, oh, really, Because I didn't want to invade his personal space. I didn't know how he really felt.

You know, I didn't get any negative energy from him, but I didn't want to invade his face. And he was like, I don't want this day and queen pushing all up on me. So he's like, come to take the pure So we went to take the picture on we were as far apart as these two curtains. I purposely stood away from him because I didn't want to be up on his person's face. And the publics like get close, to get close. I was like, oh, I'm okay. Boosey put his arm around me and pulled me close.

They come on, baby said, oh, you smell good, very comfortable. And if you look at the picture, you'll see he's smiling just as big as I am. He was. I didn't make him uncomfortable. He wasn't. If I would have felt that like I made him uncomfortable, I would have pulled back, even though my pullout game it would have used to be. But I want to pulled back. But he didn't make me feel uncomfortable. He made me. He made me feel, you know, just like a regular person.

And I'm and I'm talking to him like a regular person. Well what do you say too, because I mean, you guys kind of touched on it. But there's a common thread in the comments. I guess you can call it the same that you are a pick me and I didn't know what the hell that meant, But I don't know what it is when it pick Mark, Okay, let me let me grab Mark so he can. I'm gonna pick me, break it down so it can for everyone consistently. I'm not a trendy. I'm they say I'm not a

because I Mark? What the hell is it? Pick me? Why don't ask that? They attempted to make it a read, but pick me as somebody who's essentially always seeking validation or approval from a certain demographic. Meanwhile, ship on their own right, So someone who's like desperate, for instance, they're trying to say Flames always seeking out heterosexual men because that's the audience that she wants to pee. That shows my d M. That showed you who's seeking out me? Right.

What they're saying is that she's like she's she's sacrificing her values or character just to get a little bit of acceptance, which is not true because her rhetoric has a change. Right. It was a failed attempt how to read almost like a yes man essentially, right, Okay, I took it as an attention horn. That's what it sounds like,

like you just love attention. But you know, I think with them trying to say that, you know, uh, playing sacrifices, you know, the community just to level herself up, you know what I mean, it's like whatever different community is saying, because she and everybody recognizes that she can cross barriers and communities. Now it's been labeled as a pick me some of that, some of the stuff people make up to say is really stupid to me, you know what

I mean? Um and if and none of these people are licensed, and it's always somebody that don't nobody can attention to. I want to tell you what you are, you know what I mean. What they're mad at is that they picked flame and they didn't pick their go to what they don't even get asked questions at the office. Somebody is telling them what to do, and all of a sudden, it's like, well, this is what I think

you are. I think your canvas owns of the community, you know, But you know, I have to give credit. What credit is do? That was damn good, That was ja um And I didn't have to get more to tell me what the hell they met. But again, I think that is so sad, so sad that you're trying to fix the fraendments in your community while you're trying to hurt someone of your career. Well, here's this, I don't even want everybody like me. Here's the kicker. I really did not when you're when you I'm not going

to tell you all what the interview is. But when you see the interview, I think some of you all gonna be pleasantly surprised because y'all judging me off of a picture you haven't even seen the interview. And when you watch when they brought me in with Boothy, Boothy and I discussed his daughter, if his daughter was to marry well, and I boxed him in to be like, yeah, you're gonna love your daughter morning, you're gonna hate what she becomes because it's the truth as a parent, as

a dad. But they don't want to hear that. They just saw that I took a picture with this guy who they think is a homophobe, and they just lost their man. And it's fan, lose your damn man, because man,

my man ain't going nowhere. You know, like I said, don't know much about him, but I did watch the interview, and to be honest to me, I mean I think, yes, I think he's ignorant, but also at the same time, I think he's just very old school and conservative and a lot of thoughts and you're not gonna change someone's mentality overnight. So the more he's introduced to people like you, and there's around people like you too, where he can hear bits and pieces because y'all box him in a

little bit. He said he likes girl on girl action, but when it comes to him in it's opposite. So he already is starting to realize, okay, you you know what, they kind of me My head up right there with that. So the more he's around people like you and people give him the space say what he wants to say, you also learn and remove some of that ignorance. He will come around and maybe he won't. But it's not our place to force our agenda or what we think

is right. Don't say that. Yeah, that's something that baton rouge and no disrespect what's so yeah at all? But that's some you know, bad rouge still floating in him. And I like to see the mix. I'd like to see the growth and people as well, you know what I mean. And really it comes down to, in my opinion, I think he's a root and this is no shade at all. I think he's really the example of toxic masculinity in a way. Right. It's with a lot of

the heterosexual men. That's their thought process. But it's something that is almost common. And again, the more we allow them in our spaces and the more we allowed to have that conversation, eventually they will come around. And if they don't, and you have a problem with it, guess what. Don't support Boosey. I don't even know what Boosey song. I'm not bothered by it. Let me ask the question. You've been working with me for more than a year since and what do you always call me? Oh? Very sure?

You were an anomaly. I've and I have said this before I were reiterated. I have never met a trans person like flame. And I work for the largest a s O, which is an aid service organization in the world. In the world, okay, we're in forty five countries globally, sixteen states domestically, and we have a specific affinity group called Flux and it is all trans people of the trans experience. That's that's who we work with. And it's a very extremely different experience working with you know, that

Affinity group and working with Flame. I've never met someone of trans experience that has the same thought processes, you, the same ideals, or even just prioritize a certain topics like you do. Do you think I'm fair? Very, That's all I want to be. I just want to be fair to people because I want people to be fair to me. Yeah. I think what I create about you learn is that you don't you don't try to uh

invalidate flames experience or her opinions. And what happened yesterday, what we saw was someone trying to, oh, well, don't come to Flame and ask Flame about this or that when they're just trying to promote a show. It's like, so you're saying that Flame's opinion is not valid. No, there is space for everybody, and until we get out of this headspace of entitlement in the community, feeling like we're entitled to something or there are ways the way

we're never gonna change. Like it's just it's bizarre that so many of those fans and followers. They are not able to think and articulate their own thoughts or uh positions. They just hear what they think sounds good and they get behind it. But really, I think so you're a trial blazer and because you're comfortable with who you are, you don't mind speaking it. And that's a good thing

in all of us, you know what I mean? Um and more people will come out with your same with your same sort of thinking because that you have created a comfortable space for them to feel that they can come out and say what they want to say. But um what that you'll grow in your community. It's gonna come with growing things for you. Now, it doesn't seem like you're bothered because you do well with keeping yourself surrounded.

But I think part of the problem is is that if you would put on like lipstick around here and in in exaggerate buffoonery, you would be more respected. But because you're smart, just not respected. Just further along in my career as far as statue litt because I don't know even know if they respect that that that gooner, it's just a novelty. I don't never want to be labeled as a novelty. Well, you know what earlier I think mixed up how how to accept people. So people

were trying to get in anyway. And there's still some buffoonery right there in the community because they think that's what folks want. People have changed their imageries because of the sisters now saying, hey, that's not that's not might get down. I have a challenge, I have a crap. I am this person. Uh and so I think that's what all the craziness is far. I mean, everybody can get up and storm, you know, when there's an emotional issue.

I take no brand, you know, gestures or posture as anyone who says, you know, up with the people, Well what you've been doing for the people every damn day, you know what I mean. So to sit on a hot button, you know, an act like you're getting ready to touch it, you know, on issues I don't even know, like people reaction every people around me because it stumps micro you know. So I think that's what your face

with because you're not dumb. Because the young lady yesterday, she came as a mouthpiece, you know what I mean, and they you know, she was set by the best and that's time, it just isn't what it has to be. I mean, hell, everybody's sitting in church, don't bring one another. You can go to your house and everybody's not gonna agree inside your damn house. So why in the hell are they forcing you? Are trying to force you to be a mouthpiece for the whole community. Well, I think

that's one thing to know. Well, a couple of things. I want to just kind of highlight what you said t T. And to back up a little bit regarding Boosey and him being from Baton Rouge. I just want

to make it very blatant and very clear. There is a lot of stigma throughout the South, from Alabama to Mississippi because we're really it's interesting now that you know certain you know, l g b t Q and a s o s are really being called into these areas to provide education because there's such a huge lack and it's really sad to see that a lot of people still think that, like you just simple things like you could get HIV from sitting on a toilet, like those

are still things that people think are really real. So when it comes to the LGBTQ community and issues around, you know, trans experiences, trans experien and engay people. It's just there's so much stigma and ignorance that it's like in my mind, it's like I can't even expect anything else, and it's it's really sad to say that. Um. The only other thing that I want to say is can you just provide some more context to the female that you're talking about in terms of the interview, so that

you know what you're talking about? It would have been uh, just Hope, Hope Giselle I always called Giselle, but it's Hope Giselle that interview. I h thank you again for sharing that with me. Um. I was familiar with her

because of her role that she plays. Um, you have to be careful when you label yourself activists, and you have to be careful like I have to be careful who we send to speak for us, because I do think she said, I do think that because you had the same air for her as she had for Booty. She let her talk and they had a next change. But when she brought up past interviews to to to say, oh, I didn't get you on my other dialog, what about this?

But when you did that interview, who cares they invited her, and it was a lot of people that were like, yeah, Flame, you're white, You're right, But she wanted to bring this up as something that she had a problem. Would like, who said You're gonna be the mouthpiece? But I hope no one said I was gonna be the ear Well I will say is if you guys want to look at the interview, it's on Game Magazine's Instagram. I think it's literally the first post, and you can go and

look at it. But just so we can set the record straight and break it down so it can forever and consistently be broke flame, How how do you identify are you a spokesperson? Who are you in the community or not in the community. Okay, so that's a good question, Lawrence. So I am. I am a transfer woman for more than thirty five years. But when y'all but y'all love to say I'm a dread queen, a lot of y'all

haven't done no research on me. Y'all have seen me because I have become popular in the last two or three years, but I've been in the game for thirty years. I've been this same flame, same dialect, same way of thinking, same traction for thirty but you all just didn't know who I was. And now that I got a little shine and y'all see me in the forefront. I'm expected to be this super advocate who I support my transistors.

And when you watch the interview, you will see that which side of history do you want to be on? Do I want to be on the side where you angry and disgruntled because you can't go to a bath froom when they didn't get your pronoun right, or you can't get this, Or do I want to be on the positive side of We are moving in spaces and capacities that we have never had in our lifetimes. We

have a state senator, We have actresses. M J. Rodriguez has broken the glass ceiling that being nominated as the first female actress of transgender experience in a major role. Whether she wins or not, we have one. I don't see the glass half empty. I see the glass half full. The choice of what you see is on you. You cannot live your life through me. I can't live my life through nobody else. I'm uphill women's rights, uphill trans were trans women's rights. I find my sisters when it's

a good, good thing. But when it's some bullshit, I ain't with the bullshit and I'm not gonna fight over the bullshit. And let's just stop making everything a social justice issue or a controversy. If you need a paycheck, go to Flame and say, Flame, can you help me out get an opportunity about listen? But you know my point.

If someone wants to get on the platform, Hey, Flame, is there any way you can at least just make a connection from me, But don't try to create controversy because you need a paycheck and that's how you get your money. Well, I think the second or third show we did for Laugh and Learned were called pick your battles. And I'm a strong believer in whatever you invite into your DNA will be in your DNA. I don't invite bullshit into my DNA. Some things I just don't even

want to know about. If it's insignificant to me, there's no need for me to talk about it. If I saw one of my trans sisters get whipped on the street, I'm gonna pull out my ship and bust them in the head, whoever he is, because that's my trans sistor. Whether she started to fight or not. But if it's some bullish it and she didn't kick it off, and I'm not gonna put myself in harm's away or in jeopardy because a lot of times we walk around this

grunted and combative and angry and arguentative. I'm not like that. I don't want to fight. I want people to get along. The only way we ever gonna make other people comfortable around us is making it's us being comfortable we who we are, and walking in that room and with your headheld had and feeling comfortable enough, and they can feel your energy. Energy is transferable. If you walk in in

a good mood, they're gonna get that good move. If you walk in shitty, they're gonna feel that, and they're gonna get away from you because it's never going to work. I'm walking in shitty, I walk in bubbly and here, and I'll not tell you wait a minute, mar give me when I tell y'all, y'all thought that Booty was this and this. If Boozy had a box of me and me and Boosey would have went at it. Understand me. A n S is ruled number four to be in

a flame. It that is ain't never skinned me and Booty would have had words, but there was no need to have words because I've expressed this many many times to you all. I don't demand your respect, I command your respect. The way I treat me is how you will treat me or you will get dealt with. I beg you did not walk in the room saying I'm chat or walk in completely pronounce me. Is this or doubt?

You carried yourself in a way to where he naturally saw that, and that's how you present yourself, and that's how you respected you. I feel like a lot of times it's insecurities within a lot of people where they feel like they have to God gives them validation. Is when someone addresses them, she He's gonna naturally do that if you present yourself that way. So a lot of stuff.

Now what what what I will say though, is part two one year point flame and marks is with my and my own experience dealing, you know, with the trans community. One I will say that there is a very serious, height level level of sensitivity when it comes to dealing with the trans community, and I wish that it wasn't there, because sometimes it feels like you're walking on eggshells now, mind you, I absolutely think however you want to be identified as that should be respected, and that's how people

should address you absolutely wholeheartedly. It's important because that's how you identify. However, two flames point. To have these conversations and to really like make progress and move forward, there has to be we like y'all can't be on defense all the time. Now, mind you, I understand that trauma has been experienced and everything else, but guess what I'm black to We could probably relate on a lot of the trauma issues. So at the end of the day, I think that there needs to be some type of

WOSA for we can actually have these conversations. Otherwise we're not going to move forward. And that's what I appreciate about you is that you never come into a situation being combative. You're coming to actually have a productive conversation. And that's why I said, in a lot of ways, you're an anomaly. Well, to be fair, for most trans men and trans women, if you if you make them comfortable,

if you put them in a space of comfortability. Most transmian and trans women love to share their stories, but you can't come at them sad ways and oh, I know you're a woman, but uh you but she looking like so it's a trans man. He looks like a man, but you know he's actually underneath biologically a woman. And you come and say, oh girl, girl, you not already made them uncomfortable. But if you put them in a space of safety and comfortable and say hey, what's your name?

Your name Lauren, Oh my god, and you say I'm gonna trans worm and say, oh my god, tell me about that. Most trans people are so transparent that they will share that story. But if you make me feel uncomfortable, we immediately go to the defense because we have lived our lives on the defense, mostly with our family, with our friends, because we have talked about this transgender and I think too, there's so much still that needs to

still be learned. Like when I tell you a month ago I learned something new is that there are trans women now that are identifying as being hetero sexual women. I had no idea that that was even a thing. But again, education, things are changing so much like in your day, Seriously, forget the same thing. I did the same thing, but I didn't know that That's how the trans community is evolving now flame in your hey day, don't sit the water in your hey day? Was that

even a thing? There's there's just so much still here's the kick now that let's just say this. So you say trans women have beans, women have now identified as hetero sexual women. So I ain't the only one that like some pus? Is that what it is? So that's exactly what it is. I ain't the only one. What you likes some puss and and and that's all. And I know I said it as simple as I could, but that's what it is. That is what it is. You just want to live and present yourself as a woman.

But if you still enjoy the company of an anatomy of a female, then that's okay. That is what ah we. You can identify as what you want, but what you like is what you like. That's it. It's only gonna be one of the sick or the stone, the stick or the people. I got both within the the dick too small and the coach to be real talk, because if you got both of the penis always about this be real talk. But I'm saying all this to say is I just think it's important, especially now because things

are ever evolving and changing is that we have. We can't come into situations combative because there's so much information that's changing every day that if we're gonna make each other feel comfortable, we gotta be willing to have a conversation and talk to each other. And I'm telling you, you're not gonna agree with I don't do it. I don't agree with everything that Boosey said. I don't agree

with everything that he said on the show. But that was understand that when they called me and in my head, thank you for the compliment on being experience, and oh that was his interview. That was not my interview. I had already taken my interview. They called me into his, So I wasn't gonna come into his interview and and and dominate his interview first of all, and nobody's gonna dominate nothing of a boost because Bushy gonna get his point across real talk. That didn't gonna say what you

got to say. But that was not my position to come into dominant. And now, if it was a one on one exchange interview with me and Boosey, we probably would have exchanged heat high low in between, but we would have listened to each other, and when Boscy talked, I shut the funk up and let him speak. Just like when I was speaking, he was quiet and respectful

and let me get my point across. Were so quick to cut each other off when we when we hear a word that shake us one word trans. Oh so you don't like trans that you didn't even let the nigga finishes statement. I'm not for the argument. I don't want the pushback, and I don't want to fight. I want to work. I want my children to be safe and happy. I like the home that I'm living in, and yeah, I like my checks and lords your point

about the labeling. The young lady yesterday made a comment about people are just lazy, not necessarily that people are lazy. It's really a lot. I just me and Bobby were just having a conversation about what the I I didn't even know. And it's not because I'm lazy. It's just because, like, okay, I didn't know. Last time I heard it was lgbt Q. Now it's I A and I just haven't taken the time to look because I'm like, well, damn, what else

is on the spectrum. They're go ahead, al They're gonna have to put PM for pick me because that's a new one. They gave me pick me now, so you got PM terms. People like the newness of introducing stuff. Um. I was talking to a young lady and she identified as something. She said that she can't like anybody until she starts liking them, so she doesn't know. I said, if you're confused, damn, I'm confused. Don't give me another damn term to learn because I'm so not interested. And

who you like and who like? Speaking to Gazel yesterday, you know, I think, like, Lord, you just made a very valid point about the South. So you can't send a highly educated vernacular person to the South that don't speak that to teach them about training. You have to give just like what the police it's called what what was they called? Not defund the police? What was the other thing? Reform? You have to put somebody who speaks my language for we can't understand what you're saying to me.

So if I need Keisha to come explain it to me in the hood, because I'm gonna understand it from Keisha, then that's what it is. But if I'm in this high high m Peel Hill area and Mr Bartholomew comes to teach me his way, and that's the way I understand. Then that's what I understand. You keep trying to use these big words and all these different terminologies on people who don't even understand. It's either you got the A, B, C. And in order for them something yourself some people to

understand it, or they're never going to understand it. And y'all don't want to ABC. Y'all want to use all these big gass terms and create some ship every day, including pick me baby. We can't keep up? How then keep up cobulary does not equal education vocabulary. That's not

not at all. That's what I'm saying. I can tell you the same I can tell long the house on fire, beat your house on fire my way, or I can go Mr Tolliver, oh my god, there isn't there's an altercation on your block and there's a house that's burning and we think that it's yours when it could have been real something. But beat your house on fire now, or you say, Molly, you and danger girl, danger girl,

thank you. But I think people are intrigued by because you have the spotlight now, so it's like, let's make it more complex, because complex is better, just like big words are better, or the more you pay for the item makes it better. And really it's bs. I really think.

I think people are mirroring you because you are smart, and so before they embrace your smart it's looked at as uh a weapon or some sort because you kind of bleed in on You don't really have to act like that, you know, you just stand up for who you are, you know what I mean. Well, I think that's a good point of that. I think that's a good point t T. Janny to say it simply, you don't fit into society's box. You don't box. I'm too fat.

You just you don't. You you don't fit into the societal norms of what a person of the lgbt Q experience should be. And because you don't, all these people hate you. It's room for everybody, but clearly not do they hate me? Yes me, according to them comments, a lot of people hate you. Yeah you Friday Night on PBS go that's what that is here, here's the kicker Friday. I will be on TBS with Tiffany had It on Friday Night Apps with her and Deon Cole and I'm

sure this is gonna come up again. And from Dion's perspective, y'all got to understand that the question that that nigga is gonna ask me, I probably need to be with God because I'm gonna give it to him straight and give it to him. Rolls from your couch with your popcorn, and I'm drinking. I'm drinking for that. I might have me. I might have me a cocktail to J and y'all

know I don't drink. You don't drink. So the last thing I'm gonna bring up, and I honestly I'm gonna keep t T and mark on is what do you guys think about the baby? And that he was finally allowed to perform back in a public space at a main festival at Summer Jam in New York, and he apologized. He had a whole public apology as a part of his set, and I looked at the comments. Everybody was like, he's not canceled. How many times does he have to apologize?

We love New York for being trend setters, And it seems like he's back in the fold. You know, he may have taken a couple of else but he's back so what do you think? And I love it. I love it. I mean, like, you know, I didn't know him before, um, but I mean I followed current events. He did apologize publicly to a crowd in real lifetime. I thought that was wonderful, and talking about being humbled, he thanked them for giving him the opportunity. You know,

everybody doesn't have to cut off their damn leg. You know, I've misspoken, I've miss judge um, and I've stood up and wrong. You know, when you wrong and you think you're right, you'd be like, I don't give a fun what nobody said. That's what I heard, and I was wrong, But that does mean tear me down to my soul. So that's that's all I got. I thought it was wonderful. Long Okay, Yeah, I personally I don't think because again

I don't know. I don't know him that well. I think he made a song about social justice or policing. That's the only song that I know that was a little baby. We're talking about dub baby. Look, I don't know who he is. Look, I don't even know who he is either. So all I will say is that, look, if you want to support him, support him. People are always gonna have fan bases, They're always going to have an opportunity to have a platform or space, and it is what it is. If you don't like him, then

don't watch him. I said that from the beginning. If the continents didn't apply to you, why were you so buck heard about it? So at the end of the day, if he's making his money, that's awesome. He's making an impact on people, and it's really If you don't like him, then continue not to support him and mind you them like I'm doing. I know what I appreciate about it that it was so soon. You know, we we we we we hold on to grudge just for such a long time, but we can be forgiving. And I love

the fact that he came out. Somebody gave him another opportunity and and he he didn't pullish Icari Richards. I hate to use this as a comparison, but he didn't Japans like, because here's the here's the other side of what could have happened with all the takeaway from him. He could have became angry and embittered and went on the rampage to shoot gay people because it looked like it was the gay people that was went after him

to cancel him mostly, but he didn't. Somebody must have gotten his head or talk to him because he's young man, and like, dude, you still can salve it your career. Let's fix it now, not somebody. The nice white people who put on the concert, Thank you white people. He made them a promise. He didn't hit that OUI, and he didn't drink nothing, and he went out there and spoke for his well, thank god by white people. Uh

the money, I'm told okay. And I love the fact that given him an opportunity so soon to you know, to reach out to salvage his career because they were willing to take away everything so quickly. And I don't. Don't reprimand me and don't teach me. I understand the reprimand reprimand me. I'm wrong, reprimand me, but didn't teach me something y'all can't. Here's the thing where y'all with the booty picture, y'all can't reprimand me because I ain't. Did you wrong? I took a picture as a fan

with a celebrity. However you and took took that picture into your DNA or to your constitution. That has absolutely nothing to do with me. Understand, I'm gonna say this publicly on my platform. I will never apologize for taking a picture with Boosey. They're gonna need for me too. There is no it was. It was your community that came after him, you know what I mean, as they came after Shakary. So I think the hot buttons need

to relax the moment. And if you notice how we come after our own folks faster than we go out say at one more time, Lauren, y'all ever notice how we come after us first before we go after the other. Here's the iron The excuse was the reason they were so upset and come after the Boosey s. The names they can come after because women Black women don't get the same grace, But they attacked Shakary Richardson for things. So it's like, you can't have it both ways, honey.

Wait till y'all see the interview. I said on the interview early bit, if I would have went on the Breakfast Club in nineteen the very first time and said everything perfectly that my community wanted me to say, word for word, verbatim, if it was on the paper and I didn't go off off topic at all. Guess what, It's still would not have been good enough for them.

Someone would have found fault with me anyway. That's why I embraced this nigga right here, because I love this nigga that's talking to y'all right now, and he knows who he is. I know who I am. I'm gonna ask you that to go look in your mirror and ask yourself, do you know who you are? Do you know who you are? You better say you better say it, and I get a fan if you don't know who you are with me. I just looked like this. That's

that one says no bit. Okay, y'all already know y'all see that to look at me laugh, I'm laughing, laugh with me. We thank you guys, Thank you Mark, thank you James. If we appreciate your points of view. We're going on for another year, and we thank you guys for staying with us. Thank you, thank you. I'll be working with Stephen Kobe. I'm gonna put these titties on Stephen then start the fun fucking build mine. I thank you flame as, we appreciate you all. Thank you for

joining us. I listened. The interview comes out tomorrow on the Breakfast Club. Make sure you watch it and you judge for yourself what you think. And because what I did not do was go off the cuff because my manager this help of our here and Ms Claire and Sam Matelo along with some of you other Flame, Miss Bobby, Miss Jess Jane was like flame, you can't always give them what they want. Sometimes you have to remember that there's a bigger fish to fry. And I did remember

that there was a bigger fish to fry. You judge me off of a picture that you haven't even seen the interview, Baby, I don't know what to tell y'all. Honestly, it was almost like I was giving you back your own advice, because you always tell me. Even when I started doing life and learned with you, you were like, Lauren, to look at them comments. I still look look at them anyway, but you were like, if you look at them, don't internalize them. So the same thing with you, don't

feed into the negativity. And I'm glad that you didn't. For the interview. You had the interview how you wanted to have it, and it was productive and actually, and I look love it. It's very cute. Get your tickets for September of the six for the White Party with a splash of the Rainbow on event bright dot com slash flame. We have changed the venue. Yes, your tickets. If you bought your tickets already, they are still very valid at the new spot. We just moved into a

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you will be stuck with the groups. But if you are an individual, critical thinker, and you love you, and you appreciate how you feel, and you trust your own you trust your own opinion, your own mind, I'm telling you you will fly and sore in this life. And I can't think of a better way to end the show. So you left and learned. We're not trying to do what We're not trying to get you to change your mind. We are simply trying to get you to use your mind.

Because why some of you bit just don't get one. Somebody'll just lost. Let me just say this outline. Some know that we will be doing love Line tonight. Ladies, jump from between six thirty and seven right here on Instagram Live. We cannot tell you how much we appreciate you here and left and learned that we are going on for another year. Are you joining us for another year? Hey, I'm just kidding. We are going to be very excited.

We do want you, guys to inbox us your ideas for what you would like to see us do for the next year, because we just want everybody to find your You find your voice and find your passion, and you might agree with everything somebody says and you might not, but do you agree with everything that you say? Well? I think too. That's important is this is a community podcast, idiots.

This is for the community. So so anyway, so you can follow me on Instagram at Lauren or Monty h as well as on YouTube by Lauren Hogan and I post all of our life and learned episodes there Flame. Where can everybody find you everything you said? Twitter? Yeah, you can find me on YouTube. And I would like for you guys to stop subscribing to my YouTube channel. We've been at forty seven point two thousand for months, but you all going and watch you but don't subscribe.

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