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Nurture Your Seed!

May 13, 20211 hr 16 minEp. 26
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Flame, Lauren, Nick and the Flamettes discuss the tragic death of Mikayla Miller, Rudy Giuliani, and qualified immunity.

 

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Laughing, he laughing with la. If you watch Coffee Time to Baby, you know the name flame, my role also known as my role Flame. Come in with last and come in with JN love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah you know she raped shot towns on speaking to the ground. And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the end we leave it, which is a lift

spirit to think you want to revisit. So your first like a list of kill folks like your slip, all folks that we take it. No kids do what you do. No kids do what you don't. No kids do what I do. No Kish welcome to laugh and learning. Lation gentm, I hope you had a great week. Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there or anybody who's been in your life who has presented themselves as a mother figure.

That could be a man or woman, auntie, grandmama to neighbor, all that because some of our mama's just what, didn't do their job and we had to rely on somebody else, even the gate kids. A lot of gay kids create their own families and mothers so and even the mothers who have experienced lost to may not have a kid, but you know how to miscarriage week or if you locked your mom, the love don't leave apparently, but the

love don't leave. We acknowledge all of you guys. So to get started flame, I know you have an announcement. I was not supposed to raise my arm up. I got a couple of works. Wait a minute, what happened, correctly, A couple of announcements. New job alert, new job, Thank you Karen Hunter and Series Radio. I sawt this fride next frid to the twenty one were Karen Hunter. We're doing a political and comedy and hodgepodge of stuff on

the series Radio exim effect. I'm still negotiations for laughing, I mean for love Lounge, but we'll hold off on that. Second announcement is I am so sorry to announce to you guys that I will not be attending Delaware this weekend. It just did not work out. There was a lot of miss conscrews and the advertisement just did not match the quality of who I am. So I have to pull out respectfully, uh professionally. I'm so sorry. I hope

you guys call in and get your refund back. I did refund back the club part of the down payment, so I think there should be no issue with you all getting your your money back for the tickets, even though it's say it's nonrefundable on the website. But this is the second time that this didn't go right, and I took the blunt of the responsibility the first time. Not this one. This ain't on me. I just ain't

coming because I don't do bad business periods. So if you want to book Flame World at he she were bookings through Loring Hogan, understand that if you think I'm a bit, you ain't even met this one yet. Okay, Okay, let's bring Nick, because else are you going to You were going to Philly. I'm going to Philly September. That's after the Delaware a DC in September nine, three eleven with James and and all my flame man. So yeah, I don't know the venue though for September. You know,

I know it's level up, level up? Yes, is it? Sierre? Maybe you could do a little something. I can't see her, but Sierra did level up. She went. Her future was not that bright. So she went to Seattle and got a bright future with what's his name? Had a baby changed the baby last night. Baby. Let me tell you something. I don't know what y'all thought that Sierra wasn't doing. Y'all think you know how to dance on the dance flow? You better check her into bere have you rest so well? Simple,

let's do it. Where Where is Nick Smith? Smith? Who had a wonderful Mother's Day? Nicholas to go home? Tell us all about it? And Nick, you went to see mother did indeed? Hey, congratulations flame. A couple of people say, what was the announcement? Tell us all about Karen Hunter again. Karen Hunter has a show on Serious Radio. It's been going on a couple of years. She also has a podcast.

I did the podcast a few years ago, and she just hired me today this morning while I was on coffee time to come and work with her starting next Fride to twenty one. My manager will work out the particulars, you know. I just looked at the dollar amount. I don't want to read nothing else. I just look at the money number. So that's it. That's out for me. But yeah, it's good. I'm and I'm again delaware. I apologize for not being able to come, but it was not on me and I'm not going to even take

that this go around. Uh Baby, how was Ms Rosette? How was your visit with mom Lauren Flame? You both started the show just talking about people who may or may not have their mothers. I just I just go back. I realized this weekend. I've always known it. Yeah, I'm

just so incredibly blessed. It's it's it's amazing. But I tell you, we also thought about because Lauren you just kind of touched on this, we thought about the moms who maybe have lost their children because we've seen so many black men die at the hands of Not to take the show in that direction, you know what I'm saying there, But you have to know that there are a lot of moms out there right now who are

hurting too. Um So we just, you know, we just did a little prayer with that, and we are My mom was like, Nick, you told me I would get a chance to chat with Flames, So we kept bugging Flame, Flames. Nick I was trying to order chairs, would you stop? So but we did get a chance to chat with Flame, and I really try to call y'all back, But y'all, you just kept calling me at the most inconvenient time. So Ms. Rosette, I promised it wasn't that nick or

at you, y'all, just nick timing was off. Ms. Rosetta. Let me just tell you, I love but we had a great time and uh, just a little inside baseball flame. I employed the tactics that you and I talked about, and it could not have it could not have gone better. So thank you. No, no, don't, don't don't say that. Tell the truth. You listen to me. Tell the truth. I told you what to do, and you listened. That's exactly what I just You don't always listen to me. Let me let me just make it clear for y'all,

because we've been knowing each other thirty years. This nigger don't always listen to me. But he listened to me this weekend. And he had a great visit with his mom because mother Valcher had told him sit back and shut the hell up. And guess what he did. And you guys, let me tell you some nick is the videos that you guys put out. Your mom looks so happy to have her baby. She I was more excited for Hutheran for you because she was so smiley faced and just joyous that she had a big old baby back.

Because you know, you're number the biggest. Lauren, how was yours because you spent it with your mom too. I did. My mother's day was good. Actually, miss I love miss Marsha, So I actually took her out to her favorite sushi spot, myself, her and my dad. We all went to the favorite sushi spot with Sky, who was my little four pound yorkie. UM. So we all went out and had sushi outside together. It was listen, we can talk about timmy, I want to do all right, Okay, but no, we had a

really great time. We went and um had some sushi. It's one of her favorite sushi spot. She hasn't been outside in a long time just because of COVID and things like that. So you know, it was a really good uh you know, it was just a nice time and it was a special time. So I'm really grateful for that, and it would go for all. It was

just a good mother's day. She got some gifts and some flowers and so yeah, okay, so if we were talking to you, if we're talking to you, but we're looking this were we're looking at the camera because we're trying to focus more on the camera for the video now then so we still hear you and we're talking to you, but we just focused for not ignoring you. We promised and you and I, You and I have talked about that before. So I'm getting on my case kinda over here, fight me triple about to slap the

ship out of me. I don't know what to do, and my house is a household, but but but it looks a flame. I really liked that hair. This is my Sharing Underwood hair. I'm a mid I'm in the middle of a Sharon Osborne and uh Sheryl Underwood. So if they need a replacement, I'm a combo. I'm sure Sharon man replaced. And the ratings have tanked. Now you do the map, Okay, when we're going this week because we're talking about some things. Yeah, so actually we're gonna

start with a young lady named Mikayla Miller. And it was interesting that this came up because Flame and I actually had an offline conversation about something that happened with Izzy this week. Um, for those that you guys that don't know Izzy is Flame's oldest daughter, and it's really about bullying. So do you want to start with Okay, So Mikayla Miller. Um, she was a sophomore at Hopkinton High School and she had got into a fight with her girlfriend and other teens and she actually and as

a result of said fight, she ended up dead. Um And so according to her mother, so she spoke of just of her disappointment with the police investigation because her daughter was lgbt Q, she was a lesbian and when this whole incident happened, the police basically said, it's better that we probably sleeped this under the rug because your daughter's sexuality is going to come out in this investigation.

And the real kind of Kulda grav This is the three teens that ended up fighting Michaela Miller and ended up causing her death for three white girls, and Michaela Miller was a fifteen year old black girl in the Boston area. Um, So we're just going to open up the discussion really about bullying, what's happening in the world today. Come on, Nick, give me yours because you ain't never

had a fight. So when I get into it, I'm going hard and deep, you just have you never been in a fight, Nicholas has never been in a fight. The only time I was in the fight Lawrence in the military, and that was someone else starting you don't leave, you know, a fellow soldier, you know, tithing. But no, I've never I've never had a situation where I had had to fight. Um. But but again, I also didn't Um. I also didn't start stuff. I've always minded my own business,

you know. Um. And then for the most part, you know, I'm a bigger boy, so I've never had anybody picking on me, you know. So they're just a number of things. And I also didn't run with people who were bullies, so you didn't pick on other people. So UM, this is probably, um, the I think most contentious time right now, because I think that kids flame and I've had this conversation, aren't allowed to leave what happened at school at home.

So I think that what happens in a situation like this, particularly uh, this particular, um, young lady, the if I understand correctly, Lauren, there was a lot happening also on social media, and it just it seems like these things continue to just fester and it grows so people aren't allowed to leave that problem at school, go home, have a weekend with your family, and maybe let things die down.

The bullying continues through social media. Well, I don't even know if the social media component is at the forefront. I think it more so has to do with one that she was gay, black female and she was murdered. Really, she was lynched because she was found hanging from a tree. So she was lynched by these three white teenagers, and the police in the area tried to sweep it under the rug. It was more so it wasn't until her mother another like Black Lives Matter activists had come out.

Now all of a sudden, the d A is trying to step in and make things right. So I think it's more so geared towards racism and the you know how racism is taught. Really at this point, that's what I more so I think the root of this is and not so much the social media component, because the question goes, well, why is her sexuality, like why is that even a factor in the investigation, like just those

different elements. Is more so that hate is really taught nowadays, and we just see it festering into the younger generations. That's more so what I'm what I'm taking is the forefront of this issue. But go ahead, you know what's messed up about that is and when you look at how the police are doing this. If you remember the movie Boys Don't Crab, the Hillary Swank won an oscar for the police did the same thing to the character in that movie and said that why are you walking

around with boy clothes? Why are you dressed like a boy. You know, you can't question my life and who I am and why I'm living the life that I am, even if I'm fifteen. That's not your fucking business. That's the first thing. The second thing is I don't want them to make this LGBT because I don't know if this is necessarily LGBT. This could be like you said on racism, it could be a combination of things. It could be LGBT and racism. But these were teenage, fifteen

year old girls. I'm not understanding that you don't have one person in your life, mother, administrator, teacher, counselor preachers that you can talk to with a trust to tell me that I'm being But I've been bullied before, so I know, but it was different things. So with the whole internet thing. And I talked about this before all these keyboard gangsters. A hundred people can get on here right now and tell me they don't like me. I don't know a hundred people. What you think about me.

Don't mean shipped to me because I don't know you. You don't mean anything. You could die now and I'm gonna go have a burger. And I'm not saying celebrating your death. But if I don't know you, it does not affect me. So if y'all taken that the way I said it then and taking it the wrong way, I don't care. This my ship. Uh, And this ain't even Love Lounge. Um, it's very sad that this girl had to experience that and that the parent didn't step

in because you see when your children are being bullied. Now, I went up to the school. I talked about this on Love Lounge the other day or on Live or something. I had to go up to the school because is he had to go pick up some things. Her boyfriend's ex girlfriend invited her to come to a fight. My daughter, the dumb dumb went up there to meet the girl to go get a fight, but the girl had four

other girls with her. What that little helper did not know was that is these crazy trendy daddy was with her. And trust me, I'm not even gonna argue with you. If you these little girls would have put that they were seventeen eighteen, my daughter could have been just what this little girl was ended up dead, not hung from a tree because these was a little black girls, but dead. I would have beat the ship out of those little girls. Council culture, you mad. I'm telling you that you have

to take presidents over your children because protocol. Protocol does not always work. Going to the teachers, reporting to the principle, talking to somebody, sometimes they don't do anything. It doesn't work, and your kids still end up being hurt. And these kids ain't fighting fairly. Now these kids will cut your face or stab you. People are dying from bullying. Bullying. I used to get my ass swoop in grammar school. I WoT plenty of asses too, But it was just

a fight on Monday. On Tuesday, we meet mugged each other. On Wednesday, we were smiling with each other. On Thursday we were speaking again, and on Friday we were friends all over again. It's not like that now it's not, and it's not because nobody is taking to control. And this right here where we are on the social media internet, all of this is the biggest bully to me. Starting let let's go back forward. Let's go back for the last four years, social media was the biggest bully for

the number one person in the country. And according to reports, Michaela had been involved in the physical altercation the evening before her body was found, but that the teenagers present had not been to the area where her body was discovered. Uh. This is from forensic evidence that is being recovered right now in the investigation. UM, and I guess testimony in

alibis that they may have had Uh. They said that authorities are still waiting for the medical examiner to determine Michaela's manner and cause of death, and they're still waiting on the results of forensic testing and sampled items found in the area. I'll tell you what I had. Somebody in my inboxes tell me flame, you can't be fighting, no girl, you still a man. I should then him and I would have put this wig on and been a full all man. And to me, it's been a

chentry and dragon looking lovely. But those little girls would not put their hands on my door because I would have clocked their heat. I'm not promoting violence, but if you're a parent, you need to take care of your children. You need to watch over your keys. These kids not playing, and some of these kids parents encouraged them to do wretchy things to other keys, horrible things. I don't encourage

my children to go out to fight. Defend yourself. Longe had a bully an issue she told me about and she was pushed and push and push. When you push anybody's back to a wall, they have no other option but to sink or swim. Most of us will come out swing it. I would slap the ship out your kid, and then you know it could be kindergarten. You want to uh, okay, well, well I'll just say this for me and like like, my parents never encouraged me to fight, but my mom was very clear, don't you ever lose

a fight either, So pick and choose your battles. You know we say that, pick and choose your battles. But I was never going to be bullied. And this one instant that flame is talking about, this girl was much bigger than me. She was hefty, and I think we kind of talked about this on the show. I don't

know how you know, she was fat. I don't know how hard she could swing, so that the bitch was fat, just calling out and I didn't know how hard she could swing, so I was like, well, I'm athletic, you're not. So I ran her around the schoolyard, so she had an asthma attack. Pick and choose your battles. You just gotta pick and then you know, and I have actually, you know, put some people and choke cold and things like that. But you know, you gotta do what you

gotta do. Lauren's a big bitch. Let me tell you a big bitch. Lad's about six too, So Lauren's a big bitch. Don't get it to his thick bottom line. I don't fight fair, and you don't you ever lose a fight. Okay, those were my mom's things. You don't fight fair and don't lose the fight. And I tell my kids the same, don't fight, don't start the fight, but fight back, which is what we need to do as black Americans right now. All this marching and talking

and protests, we gotta fight back. Veno Diva says, yes, flame, I have gone to the school and found the little boy who was picking on my little girl and told him I would cut his thing, his effing hands off, his mama, daddy and his whole family. So it looks like you're right. Don't don't play that at all. Well I'll say this too. If my mama ever came to the school, the whole staff was scared. They were like, oh my god, mi's holking, what's wrong? What's wrong? Why

are you here? You didn't want my mom coming up to the school. Okay, everybody knew run for cover because some ship's about to happen. You know what's funny about that. When we were children and we had those parents that would come up and be aggressive that because they were so overprotective of their children, all of us would be like, well, your mama doing too much and wo But now as a parent, you understand that now I didn't do enough, because I'm telling you heads will roll messing with me.

Don't mess with my children because I didn't raise those kids. Now they talking. You can't you even agree to that when we were in school that you really just didn't do that, Like if the teacher told you like you didn't talk back to teachers any of that, you know? To me, I surely did. I would tell the teacher to shut the hell up talking to me quickly. That was That was my threat. Like, you want to talk to me crazy, trust my mom will be here at three o'clock to handle you. That was my threat. And

I knew that my mom was showing up. It's your faults, Marsha. So it's your fault, miss marsh because this thing right here. Shoot, that mouth comes in hand. That good mouth always works. We're talking about okay, yeah, lord, it went left room. It's sad, though, because the girl is fifteen and she would and apparently she was very comfortable with her sexuality.

She was open about it, she was free. She was comfortable enough in her house and in the city and the school that she went to to be who she wanted to be. It's just too much going on in the world. And I didn't even know about the lynching part. I really didn't that just oh it just shut up, flame, my bro, You're gonna get canceled for real. I'm gonna

hold that thought. We don't do it at Love Lounge and a parallel to it, I know in some ways it was used as a comedy, but it kind of reminded me of the get Out of the movie get Out, because I don't remember, I don't I'm not for sure sure about it, but I believe that the um that

Mikhayla Miller's girlfriend was white. So um, it kind of reminded me of the movie get Out a little bit because it's interesting that, you know, all of a sudden, they started this fight and then these three white teenagers rolled up on her and then she ends up dead. It was just it was a little eerie for me.

So um, Like I said, I know the facts of the case or coming out still, but this goes to what we've been talking about in terms of distrust between the community and the police and even really the d a's office at this point, because a lot of people are blaming the d A for negligence in this case of trying to sweep it under the rug. So I don't even know if the community is going to trust the investigation at this point and if they're going to

decide to do an independent investigation. I didn't read some reports about that too, that you know, Black Lives Matter was going to assist the family in doing that. But it's just it's sad and it's tragic, it really is. There's just no other way to put it. I smell being crump. I smell uh Revenel shops, and I just smell it. I feel it all over this case. I

smell it. I mean, they may end up doing that, you know, and it's just like we just talked about, you know, Macaya Brian a couple of weeks ago, and it's like, now we have another young black you know child that's being murdered, marching in protest and they ended up y'all. I'm sorry, marching in protest is not enough. It's just not getting anything done. In fact, we're going backwards. Nick, do you have any final thoughts before we said going into a lighter topic that I think we can all laugh.

I think that what what we will do, um, what we'll do at the end of the show, Lauren, in the description, I'm going to make sure that we include uh like a resource something for suicide prevention or l g B t Q. I aware what it was, she was comfortable with, who she was, she was happy. We don't they're just saying we don't know that yet. Flame they don't know that she may have hanged herself. That all, that's still part of their investigation. That's what they're talking about. Now.

I'll just say this on that front, because I remember a couple of years ago, a gentleman ended up paying from a tree in Piedmont Park and they tried to say it was a suicide. I don't know any black people that would just willingly go into a public space and hang themselves from a noose. I'm just gonna say that, I don't know anyone who would commit suicide. So I think the mental health and so I'm saying, I think that we need to make sure we just provide a resources.

All I was saying, I was not trying to challenge the status quo. No, niggas don't, don't can like that. But you do know somebody who commits suicide. You know me, you know Lauren, you know your friend, you know your mom. Anybody could be put in that position to where they feel like there is no way out. So I understand what you're saying with that one, but I don't believe

this girl hung ourselves. Not at fifteen. First of all, black people, that's too much time for us to think about it when we want to off ourselves and need to go quickly, well, we can't think about it again. So if you jump off the bridge or you blow your brains out, not not we're not We're not encouraging suicide. But as black people, it can't take a long time. You know, we you know, we were stickless for time. We you know, we were slaves. We didn't even want

to watch this. We didn't know it was having to quick to they say it was Quinn time. So that's why it was why black people ain't on time, because we didn't have watches. We had to wait for somebody to say it was Quinn's I'm trying to bring it back around. I do understand what you're saying. I do not believe that this young lady hung herself. And that's

part of the issue too. I'm going to say, it's with the narrative and the distrust because for them to even try and paint that narrative that this young black girl went out into the open and you know, willingly put herself up on a noose, it's just it's ludicrous. Let's give us too much time to rethinking, like, oh, I don't think I want to go this way, because what if my own look cute and not that my

nick go this way? That woman. You know, if I'm gonna do, I'm gonna jump out for bridge and therein't gonna be no water at the bottom anyway. UM. So, on a lighter note, I think that something we can actually laugh about is let's talk about Rudy Giuliani because we didn't. We didn't get to talk about him last week. So Nick, do you have that synopsis in front of you?

Were don't need to dig a little since you brought up LGBT, let me say that I'm not saying that Rudy Giuliani's LGBT, but he likes to wear women's clothes, makeup, hair, and dresses. I do too, so Kaitlyn do too. So come on all right? Oh, former U S attorney UH says that Rudy will be forced to face the truth.

H Rudy Giuliani's office and home in Manhattan were rated UH for the level of this search warrant to be issued and approved by a judge, there has to be reasonable cause to believe that there's evidence that can be obtained from that location. UH that is either supporting or can exonerate the charges leveled against the accused UH, the

accused in this case being UH Mr Giuliani. Not only that, they also talked about how the bar for this warrant in this particular situation was even higher because this was not just an attorney, which is hard to get in a search warrant against, but this was the personal attorney of the most powerful man in the United States. It's also important to mention that this investigation started under the last administration. This has nothing to do with the Biden administration.

The only reason it's tied to the Biden administration is because of our current UM Attorney General Merrick Garland, who is following through with a case that already started its investigation under the Trump uh administration. So they believe that the idea behind collecting these electronic devices from his home and his office have to be germane to a crime, because a judge would not have signed off on a warrant for someone of that status and that stature were

it not credible. Well, I think the funny part of this is is one UM this is now the second personal attorney for Donald Trump that has had their homes rated because exactly to Joe Biden knew nothing about this. He got the news when this broke that everybody else did. He got at the same time that we did. And more importantly, um Rudy has been going on a Fox News rampage talking about how this was unjust and unfair and is actually damaging his case. So New York's once

beloved mayor is really going downhill these days. Well, then his own daugh to come out and say that something was wrong with him, that she wouldn't vote for him, and didn't his own daughter do that? Yeah, what else do you need to know? She lived in the house with him. She knows her father. When your kids living in the house with you, they know you better than anybody else. The if she gave us its warning before destruction, that's in the Bible. She gave us a warning child

the destruction was coming. I have no sympathy for real. I wouldn't give a funk if he was three hundred years old and they put him in prison by himself for the rest of his life, I wouldn't. He didn't care about the American people. Every lad he could think of. When Donald Trump was in office, he told every lad got on TV publicly and blasted everybody to cover up Donald Trump. There is no I have no empathy, no sympathy,

no nothing for him. Put the nigger in jail, give him a dress and no mirror, and give him some makeup and no mirror, so he would never know what the fun you look like, cause we don't care what he looked like. No way, Uh, that's my opinion. I don't care. Let's even take that step further flame. This is someone I think has fallen in spectacular glory. He was America's mayor. You remember when that was his moniker, his nickname he made after nine eleven. You know, he

came out front. He symbolized what I think many people needed in this time of tragedy. Right, someone leading us through all of this. I could have seen a Rudy Giuliani being uh the favorite son of New York. Statues, libraries, buildings named after him, none of that. He has so severely damaged his legacy. I believe with his uh he still rants about the election being stolen from President Trump.

There's just so many things that you sit back. Any reasonable person would say, Mr Giuliani, why are you doing this? Why did you stake everything you worked for on this particular person. The latest thing with all of this flame is um he's had to a lay off staff because, uh, Lauren you you may have read this as well, because he's broke. He's bleeding through money. I saw Mark made a comment talking about me money sugar daddy. You can't have a broke sugar daddy, Mark. He doesn't work that way.

We go ahead, Nick, Sorry, yeah, idea of hand you want, you want one with a little change, and I think he has nothing but change now and that's the problem. So yeah, so it's just Wednesday, last Wednesday, now finish, Nick, I'm sorry, No, that was just it that federal investigators on Wednesday sees cellphones and computers from Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York who became President Donald Trump's personal lawyer. They're stepping up their criminal investigation into his

dealings in Ukraine. So this is all tied to Ukraine, which again fell under the Trump administration. I've seen some people saying this is Biden, uh, exacting revenge. President Biden has nothing to do with this at all. I bet you he can't call Donald Trump will alone. Well, the thing is he's made a phone call to Donald Trump, and apparently Trump is not taking his calls, and publicly Trump is just saying, that's a terrible situation for Rudy.

He's doing what he always does, He's casually distancing himself because the other scenes, it seems like the other shoe that's about to drop is now our previous Attorney general. Bar is also being investigated for being disingenuous in terms of why he was even able to be in that seat. His statements that he made to Congress before he was actually um assigned that position was misleading. He wasn't being honest about what he did. So now Bar is also

being investigated too. But just history lesson. There's a long history between I'm gonna just say Jeffrey Epstein, bar Bar's father, Donald Trump. So this completely non secretary here quickly. You just mentioned Jeffrey Epstein and I read an article that, uh, supposedly Melinda Gates had a real problem with him, like did not like him, and that that was the reason that was another one that she did not like Bill's closeness to I'm like, wow, I didn't even think they

knew each other. It seems like everybody in that circle kind of all. You know, there's just a so so background. And I know a lot of this stuff because my

mom was born and raised in New York. But um Bar's father was actually the head or, he was the dean of an all girls school that was actually in New York, and he ended up hiring Jeffrey Epstein as a teacher then even though he lacked credentials, he had no credentials whatsoever, and knew of the sex scandals that were happening with Epstein, these younger um children females that were there. That's how the relationships started. So as things evolved,

of course Bar became friends with Epstein as well. And then you throw Trump into the mix, and all of a sudden we have these large scale, you know, sex trafficking rings that are happening. So it's very deep and very rooted. For sure, Trust and believe Bill Gates will pay Melinda whatever she wants, because Melinda gonna no way more than she's supposed to. I think that's going to be an amicable spit like Jeff Bezos and his wife. Well, the tea is the day that Melinda filed for divorce.

Bill Gates had just given her two billion dollars two Now, Bill Gates is worth a hundred and eighty billion. I'm just saying he casually the fact that she casually got two billion dollars on a random day. Who knows how much money she actually has. She casually got two billion dollars just on a random day. Girl was and I believe and help me here, but I believe that she's

rather accomplished as well, right, Lauren. She wasn't just a trophy. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't gonna marry some dumb female, Like, let's talk about it. They've been married a very long time. And I'm just saying, yeah, and she's not seeking spousal support. So that just goes to how much money Bill has probably given her over the years, how much stock she has, and just be all of the different organizations he's actually created for herself. She's like, I don't need his money.

I got two billion dollars a dad, you know, file for divorce. My personal conspiracy is she stayed up, she's sick. Let me tell you something about how thin the line is between genius and lunacy and being very rich, because he's not very rich, he's ridiculously rich. To a point where he can bad people, own people, and do what he wants to do with people. He didn't ran out of things to do. He didn't turn to me. He has turned into a mad scientist. And he said it

in twenty eleven. I told you all that if you go back and look at his thing, he said that the world was overly populated by three million people. Baby Melinda probably sick of he manned up all this farm land and doing a whole bunch of stuff. My conspiracy. This ain't got nothing to do with laugh and learn. This ain't gotta never do Nicko Lran. It's my ship. I'm saying. I think that Nigga and lost his cheese and slay off the cracker because of money. It's not

the money, it's the power. It's the he'd had money for you. He's been rich for a very long time, super long. Just so you know, that is one of the greatest myths, right, Bill Gates never said that. It's attributed to him, like he never said his three billion people, but he never actually said it. But it's someone said just like Bill Gates said, And it became one of those things that has gone viral since then. I don't care if it's two billion, three billion. We six hundred

thousand did from a man made coronavirus. Let me say that one more time, from a man made coronavirus. We have six hundred thousand did and counting every day. That was my spill. So let's bring in some flamets, shall we. I think let's see how people are feeling these days about Oh, since you thought I was attacking you, let's bring in good old Marks. He likes to be attacked. He whoa, whoa, whoa what I'm telling where? He says, Hey, Mark, I wasn't attacking west where Hey, guys, sorry he's driving

You were attacking me? Hold on, I'm pulling over. Sorry, Okay. First of all, the whole Bill Gates thing, Yeah, homies all up in it with COVID, and I am with you on that one regarding his involvement and the power that comes with that. And he's always had speculations around me home. So Markey, Mike, he ain't got no money. Are you talking about Bill Gates? I thought you talked about Guliani. Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know, yeah, Bill

is crazy. But after you get all the money, you know, where do you go but crazy, I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah, anything you want, it's just a hand throw you you go. No place else but crazy, you know what I mean. And that's not an excuse at all. But I mean, think about it. If Bill Um couldn't buy coaching, you know, I mean, God, I mean, that would be his big thirst. And so if you've got all the money, you can buy all the couching you want. I mean, and I get it his side piece.

It's not easy on the eye, but you know, it's like this is all he has to do is buy crazy stuff and do real crazy stuff. Now nobody knew. I don't know what people actually knew about Jeffrey, you know what I mean, because there's always been a string of speculation tied to him. But James Jeffrey was a mover,

you know what I mean. So it was just as important to him that he moved in the circles that he wouldn't have normally been in had Bar's father not let him in into the elite, you know what I mean. So he liked right shoulders. I don't know if everybody he bumped into knew it, certainly, I mean, you know, Bill ain't coming now to washat classling and I'm sure, uh now, Maxine probably wants to get herself his his side piece. The basic MHM is that her name Maxine?

No max Oh you good An, I thought you said Maxine. I thought, okay. Yeah. First of all, I don't think that Jeffrey est Epstein is dead. I said this a couple of time, and I don't believe he did. I believe that was a fake body and he's somewhere people. I don't believe he did. I believe he paid those

people off to get out and he did. Because my spirit, my thing, I think that if he was dead, he had already given paperwork besides to somebody else besides j Maxwell, to say, if anything happens to me put this out, well, it might be a situation to where people assisted in kind of covering up, or if they wanted to fake his death, whatever the situation. Maybe because he just knew too much. Did it start at the top. Yes, Look look at up side and this this is is not over.

This is not over with Jeffrey's not over with Bill. I know he's shaking, but it's like I wish they would start golfing or something, and so oh damn weird. Oh Jen, it's so funny you said about golfing, because I think Marky was the one who sent me Somethingbody sent me something about said me one days with um Joe Biden. No no bad tweets, no disrespect, no harassment, no racist statements, just all that. I'm like, oh my god, it's just it's the comparison is like it's refreshing. Oh wow.

The real tea is that Joe Biden's dog is just biting people. So yeah, but it was almost like being an abused woman. I kept thinking, any day it was gonna start back up the luminacy of Trump, even though he was buying. I was like, something crazy, it's got to happen, you know. I don't think Trump man, they're gonna get They're gonna get his ass soon or later. I just feel it. I mean, at this point, he would have already been talking a big game about his

comeback with his ego. So the fact that he's not, he's dropping tibits here and there, you know on his news networks that he likes to frequent. He's I mean, he's definitely he's nervous about something, and um, you know, Wednesday the GEO P they do their vote to Alice Lynch lisz Cheney, which was we're going there, to Mark, We're going there, go ahead. Yeah, so you know, we'll

see what happened. I think Wednesday is really going to be a tell tell of the shift of the I don't even like saying Republican Party because I associated with the Republican Party for a long time. I have a lot of friends and those that that's what I see now is just not the conservatives that I that we saw at one point. Um. I mean this, the basic principles of conservatism have just completely gone out of the window. So you know, who knows what that party has going

on and what the future will be. But Wednesday will be a telltelle sign of where they go, if it's going to be the Maga Trump situation or if they're going to really keep Liz in her position and try to shift the narrative within their party. So if they get rid of List, they've lost a jewel. Oh yeah, and they've they've gonna instead of gaining those you know, those four seats, uh that they gained, they're gonna lose more so because she is she is the Nancy Pelosi

of the Republican Party. Yeah, and here's here's the really interesting dynamic is that Alisa's step uh Stefan, I think it's her name. I forget how her annapty so excuse me, but the um the lady who they are wanting to

replace her from upstate New York. She actually has an even less conservative voting record, But the only thing that ties her differently than uh Liz Cheney is that she backed up most of the things Trump did, so even though she's not even on record a conservative as much as Liz Cheney is based on her voting record, the difference is that she backed Trump up. Well, she just started back in trus She backed Trump for this last thing. This Chaney back Trump and of everything that he wanted

to do he was in office. This this girl who you're all talking about, what's her name, Elizabeth stef she just started. She just backed Trump for this the whole the election was a farce. That's why they jumping on the bandwagon on her. I hope this's Cheney stands a ground. I love that she said in her ground, and I hope that they do take up and remove her from her seat, that she comes over to the Democratic Party and make some changes in the Democratic Party. We need

some balls over here. It's too many people in the Democratic Party with power where she may not do that, but there's too many people in the Democratic Party that don't have any balls, no backbone. They're too fucking scary. Well, I mean, I I agree with that. I think they're

the Democrats definitely need to grow some balls. I mean, if we're even going to talk about Senator curn borrow Man, even if we go to you know, to Senator Clyburne and some of the remarks that he made to uh, I think yesterday about qualified immunity has me looking at him kind of sideways. But on the Liz Cheney front, one, I think that it's really unfortunate what's happening to her, And it's like, yet again, here's another woman trying to be at the forefront and do the right thing, and

she's being you know, the sacrificial lamb. But at the same time, I kind of feel like, is this karma for the Republican Party because in a lot of ways, like Mark said, you know, if they decide to ask her, which I think they're going to end up doing that she's going to be voted out, and they have this new you know, and they have Elizabeth Stefonic step in the Republican Party is really shaping them to say that

they're the Party of Trump. And I think what we're probably going to see is more likely is that there's going to be a group of the GOP. And I think this has already started. They're gonna kind of create their own party to say that they're the new GOP. That's the only thing they can do because in a lot of ways, people forget how screwed up the GOP was even before Trump. Like Liz Cheney is still Dick Cheney's daughter. Dick Cheney was a part of the Bush

presidency and Bush was a screwed up president. But because we got Trump eight years or twelve years later, everybody forgot how screwed up a president Bush is. Because he snuggles up Toget, because he made a nice speech at um at um who who's feeling who? Yeah, he made a nice piece. So you know, black people, you know how we are. No, it wasn't that, it's because we had Trump and then he snuggles up against Michelle Obama. That's how That's why people forget how screwed of the

president Bush was. That's why bushing Obama tight. Now everyone it's like, oh, Bush, he's cool. That's exactly what she did, and he was a screwed up president. Hell, if we're gonna talk about it, Dick Cheney really was the one that ran the country Lewis' funeral. Okay, Well, I'm saying Dick Cheney was the one that really ran the whole country when Bush was president, and we're going to talk about it, so let's not forget where Liz Cheney stems from. So, yeah,

that is the truth. But you know, I like to believe and I could be not need that people viewing how messed up the world is now. As far as relations, I'm hoping I'm okay if she I'm okay with politics, but I'm hoping that she doesn't compromise on her integrity, you know what I mean, Because it's a lose lose for everybody. You know what I mean. It's it's it's a lose lose for everybody if they lose her. I still believe she's always going to identify with that party,

and I'm okay with that. But what It really shows me is what you have to do improve yourself as being a female. You know what I mean? Um, because she is definitely a jewel for the Republican Party. We've tolerated Mitch McConnell and his bliss stupidity and he has no shame about it, no shame about it. You know when you see all these people speaking. A smart politician though, But somebody needs to cut the strings. Nobody, nobody has cut the strings yet, nobody has allowed the strings. Everybody

is being dictated as a puppet right now. Everybody is a puppet. Everybody's a mirroring it. Somebody needs to cut the strings. And just started all the list. Cheney looks like she wants to do it, and I'm damn showing them the Nancy Pelosi got hr sizzles. But when I watched, like with Tim Scott speaking, you watch Alise, what what's the young guy named Fowler? What was his name? That Fouler? You know, they they when you hear them speak, it

don't even sound like they're speaking their words. They're speaking for somebody else. Mm hmm. That's what They're all from, the same cookie cutter and they're trying to say that, Um, you know, I would love to see the moderate Democrats, a lot of the moderate Democrats and a lot of the more liberal Conservatives come together and uh do something

to either. I know, you know, creating a new party's hard, but do something that I think would really resonate with a lot of people in the country because nobody fits either side perfectly. I'm sure I know you blame you say a lot of things that you know, conservatives would meet you in the middle on ideal you know, ideas, and I'm sure that goes for all of us on your we are really in the middle. But politics is

just used as a weapon. Religion is used as a weapon for politics, and it's literally to pin us against each other, to put us back in our corners. So I would love to see a more moderate party come together from people from both sides who are having issues in their own caucus and see you know, I think it's gonna be really attractive to most Americans. I mean,

but people get together and put deals together. I don't think we're gonna ever see a three party uh ticket, And I'm okay with that because no matter what you do, when you have a group of people together they're going to start breaking off into sulf committees and self agendas. Nobody's ever gonna hold hands in seeing you know, kumbay yacht.

That's just not the world. The reason that we have or I have my people with the Democrats, it's not because it is because they're solved, But that's because we welcome everybody. We you know, we're the party of everybody. Republicans want that money, they protect that money, and they if you don't have any money, they don't have a problem saying we really don't like you or any of the things that you need for your family, whereas Democrats accept everybody. We want everybody to have help care, we

want everybody to have breakfast in the morning. You know. So that's the problem to me with the lack of

balls in the Democratic Party. And we fight so hard because once again, you know, we know what we want to reach people, but then we get caught up in all these damn different you know, Um you don't tagline the messaging, you know what I mean, And it divides us for progressive democrat, liberal democrat, modest democray way far to the you know, independent progressive, all these or honestly, but but My issue, my main issue with the Democrats is that we're always so eager to meet somebody in

the middle. Sometimes I really wish that we would just stick to our morals and do what needs to be done. And I bring up the example of Senator Clyburn saying that qualified immunity didn't need to be a part of George Floyd's bill, which I think is crazy. You know, it's so different from the remarks we talked about last week the Kamala Harris is making. We're always trying to make concessions to meet people in the middle, and we feel like we're trying to do what's right, and sometimes

that's just not what we need to be doing. We need to stick to our guns and actually implement policy change. That's what we need to do. I'm telling you all right now. We we we just have to pay attention because we had it for something. I don't know what exactly it is, but we had it for something. And every day they show us. Every day they showing us something. I'm telling yeah, yeah, I better pay attention and pay

attention to these voting laws changing the qualified immunity. I think the hard thing with that is the language is going to have to be so precise that it's going to be challenging. You're either going to be I'm for or against it. It's you're not gonna be able to find a middle because if you try to say, well, we need qualified immunity to be there to extend, there's so many scenarios and nuances that the language would be

almost impossible to to write up. So I think, yeah, you're gonna be on one side of the fence or the other, and it's almost like how how do you how do you weigh it? So that is going to be challenging, and I would love to see how people

come in the middle with that. If there's even a possibility, Well, I think that's gonna really turn into another political issue because qualified immunity, in my opinion, needs to be removed because that's ultimately what protects cops when they you know, when we have officer involved shootings in there, you know, killing the people that they're supposed to be protecting and serving. Qualified immunity needs to be removed. And I know we

talked about last week. New Jersey was the first one to kind of start taking those steps to remove it, and they're you know, trying to not make a mentally distress calls to the police department. So New Jersey is trying to take strides, but ultimately qualified immunity needs to be removed because otherwise that gives cops the ability to keep shooting people and not being prosecuted for it, or they even take they can take it a step further, just like what Derek Chauvin and you know, Amber Geiger

are doing. They have this whole appeals process because of qualified immunity. It's giving them the law is on their side, and that's what the problem is. It's not being provided to the civilians and the citizens of this country is being provided to these people, as Flame has said, who have these badges and guns to protect them, right, Well, it really protects them from uh civil little litigation and lawsuits.

That's that's one of the main things. Um yeah, but you know, if a crime, it's if a crime is clear as day, they're going to be prosecutor. Here's like the example that I would use. If a cop is you know, let's say arresting a female and you know, he does a backhanded pat down and she she makes a claim that he touched her. She can now sue him with no problem in the world. That's where the

language comes. It's gonna be hard to outline with what what qualified immunity can is common sense, but also what isn't you know, a clear's day killing shouldn't be qualified and it shouldn't qualify for immunity in my opinion. But again, they're just gonna it's gonna be one or the other. I don't think there's going to be a middle ground

on it. But for me, I think get rid of it all together because at the end of the day, if to me a life is more important than a loss to hire a good lawyer and fight your case if you believe you're innocent, that's what I look at it, you know, but mark to your point, but I think

that the middle ground would be body cameras. That's why we have body cameras because to your point of if a cop you know, is sexually assaults or you know a female or back cancer, whatever the example you provided, that's where body cameras kicking, That's that's where the accountability comes in. You record those things came off if you pull me over, because if you touch me right I'm gonna touch you right back. Ship and we don't want

that on film. That's only fans deal, but it is, and I think body cameras have to be they also have to be looked at again because to me, officers shouldn't have control over when that camera is filming or when it's not. So if they need to invest in better technology, then that's something needs to be conversation and Mark, I hear you on that. But what difference does it make if you have the footage, if you have the

whole footage, the camera running the whole time. But like North Carolina, they release what they wanted us to see. You see, somebody is still in charge. They showed us what they want them twenty seconds that they wanted us to see, not what happened. That camera could have been going the whole time. We need somebody in there who's going to find micromanage and fine tune and say, hey, here's the entire unfiltered film. Don't don't put the police

captain in charge. Who you already known is a raging third party, independent entity that oversees that and as responsible. I agree, I don't think it should be up to any head of a department or even city official. It definitely needs to be overseen by a different entity that is made up of we'll see. And I think that's but all of the things that we're talking about, these

technically all go under the umbrella of qualified immunity. All of these entities and all of these different elements and aspects, they all go under the umbrella of qualified immunity. So remote remove that and you're actually ripping the band aid off and are giving people a fair opportunity. Here's the

crazy thing. None of us are elected officials, and all of us are sitting here having an intelligent conversation, brainstorming ideas that makes sense one way or another, and yet we pay these people to sit their ass to collect money from special special interests and not put any legislation. That's how I fault. But that's how I fault. That's how I fault. Let's go back to Allison. Let's go back to you have to start voting at the local level to get the people that you want to be

in those spaces. We're gonna bring Allison on, and bring Allison on, Lauren, because let me tell you something that that goes right back to what she's been saying. You got to start locally in order to get the people that you want. We keep going today, Uh fucking reality stars and big names and baby, please you better do it. Hey, everybody, how are you all doing today? Hey ladies, City Council,

we're rocking with you over here. Markey Marketing brought you up again because he was talking about that we need people that think like us, look like us, feel like us, and break it down for hours and how can we get there? So here it is so I was listening about the body cameras, and again there was one time that I was not for body cameras. And I'm gonna tell you why, because here in Lakeland they were trying

to get the body. They are still trying to get the body cameras, and over of course of five years, it's gonna cost five million dollars. Right. And then I was asking the question because somebody had to educate me, I said, and I asked these two questions. I said, listen, who who which camera would you trust? Would you trust offers a billbo or would you trust Allison camera? And a lot of people said, I trust your camera? And

I said, well, why would you trust my camera? Because you won't do anything to it and you will release it immediately, right. And then they said, well, it's gonna cost so of five years five million dollars right for us to house this information, right, because you need somewhere to house this sad information that comes from the footage. And I said, well, we can put that money in you can see your programs and housing. Well, let me

tell you how I was educated. If you played close attention to the George Floyd's case, not only was that girl's recording us, but the officer's body camera was used, right. And with that they also with the officer's body camera, right, that also is an automatic It is admissible and you can use it in the court of law with the our our phones. They question it, right, So what what what are you saying to us, Allison? Well, your local

police force is not an intelligence agency. So when you find that local police force is redacting information and things like that, that's an automatic flag, right because the local police force is not an intelligence agency. And then were and and and and now we're having issues with oh they're not releasing the information d D. Dan. Ladies and gentlemen.

That's where you go tap on your mayor, that's where you go tap on your city commissioners, because what we keep forgetting is that our our city commissioners and our local police force, they get their money from the city and their bosses is the commissioner. Their bosses is the mayor, Ryan the chief of police. Their boss is the mayor. Right. The city workers is the is the ones who implement the policy that's set forth by people who you who the city, who the city residents elect. So that is

when you hold your city commissioners accountable. That is when you hold your mayor accountable. Don't let them release that that that that information. Okay, let's go tap on our city commissioners who come acts for our votes. They don't know tapping on us in some districts are actually the case up in uh Uh there was someone who was

just killed by law enforcement. The actually a judge has to sign off and get permission for footage to be released to the North Carolina in North Carolina market, right, right, But but again that is true. However, if the mayor asks for it, it must be released because at the end of the day, that local police force, that money that your local police, all everybody's local police get. The way they get their budget from they get the city

commissioner grants their budget. So because I give y'all money, whatever I ask for, I shall get. Yeah. But you have to remember also who's in bed with each other? You know that too. That to t J, I agree with you. I agree with you. It's all a game. But that is why T t J. And it is important for us as a people to study who the hell we vote for. Not a curse in front you.

But I'm just saying, that's why it's also important T t That's why it's also important T t J. And that we don't just sit at home and look at the news and complain about what's going on. Because I said, I said this, I said the issue the difference between white and black folks. White black folks talk about it and go home. Some of us white volks when they get scared. When they get scared, they talk about it and go vote. See, that's what black people need to do.

We need to talk, vote and take our ass to song. Period. Or they or they try and get their local elected officials to create voting bills that restrict color folks from voting. And then and then what because what happens is what's going on here? In Lakeland. They push money into the candidate that they want to win, right pushing the money. We're gonna but that's first, that's black folks need to do.

Let us start pushing money into the candidate that want Favorite Lane From John q uh Denzel watching movie My favorite movie, watching Favorite Lane, his wife told him when the song was dying, do something. We got to do something, do something. All this time with you, Alice, all this talking ship, then you listen to the celebrity. The problem.

Part of the problem is a bunch of these celebrities who who's dead siling right now, But when the primary is getting ready to come up next year, they're gonna be out talking about hold your vote? What did they do for black people? What what have you done for black people? You ain't said ship since Biden has won. And y'all know who I'm talking about, Ice trades, i Q, ice corters, ice clubs, all that ship. Y'all ain't said nothing. All y'all run around, how hold your vote? Hold your vote?

Everybody dad silent right now. But when the checks come out for two black folks, hit me and hit me, well, look in the mirror, and the person that's most important to you is the person that's looking back at you. Get your ass up and in the words of Mistaking from the movie, do something. Well. I just want to say this. I want to throw this out there. Black women, we vote. I'm just saying everything right now, so we vote,

so thank you. I just want to throw it out because because because because for so long, right, black women have carried the votes right for us, black people were still in the we still do right. Let me tell you something, these white folks are scared. They're scared because now people are finally listening to the black woman. Right.

They been our people, been listening to us. But they're they're people's ear, their nephew's here, they're ears to our voice, their son's ear, their son's ear is now to our voice. And they're getting scared, right because when a black woman speak, everybody stands to attention. They shook talk about it. Why do you think I'm trying to be a black woman, black nick, I want to be a black woman. I want to be no other. I want to be a black woman. Very you're looking very thin today, picking mark

trying to get something, y'all. Stop to y'all. Y'all will never have to leave. We could do laugh and learning for whatever, y'all you go somewhere. You ain't saying that, come on, keep with skinny. No, I was getting ready to say, you're giving fish today. I like the naughty professor. Yeah, in sequence, I would be, I would technically be I would technically be the nutty professor. You just figured out Mark, you're just trying to stay out the class with see.

No but a serious though, So I wanna just say thank you to the three of you guys. This was a really, really important one I think robust discussion. So thank you guys for coming on. It's always before you leave, Alison, I need you to just let people know how important it is that. Like you've been stressing and stressing and stressing about the local level of voting, I told you I was guilty of that too. I would only vote for the big names, you know, President, Governor. I didn't

care about all of them in city council. I just didn't Mayor. I just didn't care about that because I didn't think that it affected me. So I love that you come on and educate us that because it lets us know that in order to get who we want and to be the president. We gotta start real low and help build them up there in steps. Yeah, right, So I encourage people to look at it like this.

Think about the government. Government is down up, not top down. Right, So think about think about a plan in the ground, right when you when you plan a seed into the ground, right, in order for that seed to grow, you have to nurture it. Right. But if you keep playing, if we keep planting these seeds and growing and growing them, they're gonna grow dead. Right. So when you think about your local government, think about a seed that you want to come back to see, right, Think about a plant that

you want to come back to see. And if we do not water the water the seed that we planted, we're gonna always come back to dead plants. Well, Alison, what is the day a plant? These states? The state representatives, these U S. Senators, these these presidents and vice presidents that we may not like in the four years and eight years to come, these governors. Right, but just think about it. If I nurture my seeds, which is my local government, then I'm going to start seeing state representatives.

I like, I'm going to start seeing governors. I like, I'm going to start seeing congresswomen in congressmen and U S. Senators and presidents and vice presidents. I'm going to begin to see a world that I like. So think about it, think, think, think about it like a seed. Right, If you don't nurture the seed, you're gonna always get dead plants. And so my question to everybody are we tired? Are we

finally tired of the dead plants? Because I am. That's that's gonna be the name of this week's show, Nurturing my seed. Yes, I need somebody to nurture my sea. Thank you, T. T Jan, Thank you Alison. We appreciate you guys as always. Thank you so much. Have a good day. Thank you Alon. Allison Louis Lakeland. She is running for city council in Lakeland, Florida. You need to look her up. Listen to our politics, make sure you follow T. T J. And that Waits Williams and Markey Mark.

Let me tell you something. Everybody does their own thing and they all talk about it. Not we don't always agree, but we always come to in a conversation which is most important. You got to talk about it in order to make some changes about it. Hi, I love that planting the seed you've got if you if you don't water it, it won't grow. Oh that was fantastic. Absolutely, you was going on weekend? What kind of seeds was you planning in Chicago? Playing pamping? Look at Nicholas for

being professional. He only been this phone. He's gonna call me and give me all the dirt. Let me tell you Nick that Allison, do you do you do you agree with how she was saying that we need to start locally to go higher. We we everything starts in the community. I'll tell you something else too. I agree also with the body cam. You know, we've we've got to figure out the funding for that because I completely agree that if we have that information recorded, we at

least have to have that information recorded. I I just UM, I think that every that should be part of the standard of uniform UH, that video equipment is part of your uniform, that every interaction, every engagement with any citizen

UH is recorded. Just as simple, I think that transparency is the best thing for all parties involved, and that if we have that on video recording UM, it can help clear up situations, explain situations, give families peace, or or hold those accountable who may have crossed the line. But I'm not trying to challenge like so like you guys see it, aren't they challenging? So like Lord to me, you see in an altercation and I'm videotaping it, but

the officer has his camera. What's the difference between me videotaping and his camera? So the difference is from what I understand, and anybody in the comments or nick you can correct me if I'm wrong. From what I understand is that because the body camera footage that or the body camera should say that the police officer has, it's automatically admissible in court because to next point, it's a

part of their uniform, so they can record it. But I do know that there's some situations where if an altercation is recorded and people aren't aware that they're being recorded, it could become a legal issue. Thing. I didn't consent for you to record me. You think you think she would have consented to killing George Floyd? Do you think he would have wanted that on you? Well, he knew

he was being filmed though. That's the thing. So as even though as the teenager was because I don't want to say her name, as she was recording the altercation. Throughout it, he knew at one point that he was being recorded and there wasn't an issue. So that's how I understand it. Like again, I said, I could be

wrong with that was my understanding of it. That's why officer body cam footage is admissible in court, whereas you it becomes a bit of a sticky situation if you're recording somebody and they're not aware that they're being recorded. And I'm now saying that some of the police officers will try to do something to you if you're recording them, right, and then to put your camera down. This my phone. You ain't paid for this. See I'm that one. I'll be there. No, don't tell me what to do with

my This my deep nut room. I'm before for love lounge, this my ship. Well that's why sometimes like you'll see people recording, but they'll put their phone down so you can at least hear what the officer is saying, but you can't see their face because that's allowed, but they can't they have to consent in order for you to

actually film that. That's terrible. Went through a situation this weekend with my mom showing her how to hold her camera discreetly to record situations, you know, because I want her to know how. We are very quick and we know how to operate our phones probably easier, you know, but I wanted her to know how to do that. And you could be discreet, I said, Mom, and you put it up like you're looking taking a selfie and you could be recording the entire time. But I want

you to know how to quickly access this camera. So we just absolutely I think, could you imagine us hearing about George Floyd's death if we didn't have that girl who videotaped that, Well, that's true because if you even look at what the police put out afterwards, they said that it was a medical or they tried to say that George for basically had a medical issue and then when he arrived at the hospital, you know, he died.

That was the statement that the Minneapolis police put out initially, And had we not had the footage, we wouldn't have known that Derek Chauvin actually had his knee on his neck for nine minutes and twenty nine seconds and that was actually the cause of his death because the way that the police put it out, it was, oh, he had a medical distress, situation. We took him to the hospital and he just died. Amsterdam. Here I come, because y'all don't want to give it. I'm moving to Amsterdam.

Uh Nicholas, they got the good stuff red light District. Here I come. So, Nick, what are your final thoughts? We got to close that at this point. We're a little over time, So go ahead, hey, final thoughts. You know, like I said, we we I think that there is a conversation that needs to continue, Lauren. I think we can talk about qualified immunity all day, every day, because I think that that's an issue. Um. I understand why it's in place, because I do believe that there are

some government officials who deserve to have that protection. But I think that to have a blanket system in place that removes the accountability factor for members of law enforcement is um a premise that needs to be questioned and examined. That's very true. Major we didn't have we didn't see the Ranney King video on film we heard about. It would have had a different impact even though they still got off. You see what happened with the riots here

in California. It is it's the sadly the video footage don't seem to be enough anymore. They still getting their way with at it. Well, in some cases it's effective. We talked about George Floyd, and I think the video allows a conversation at least before the conversation, because I think flame there was even conversations within our own community. We'll be like, well, why don't you just act right? If you just do what you're told, you wouldn't have

this problem. But now video is telling a very different story that you know what, maybe WHOA, there's a problem here? Why is this happening? You know, I don't know if anybody in our community ever said why did you just act right? Too? That's like somebody telling you are you pretty for a black girl? Pretty for a black queen? No, bitch, I'm pretty anyway, You're funny looking. I don't care what you see. That's my mouth, you know, I'm the clip back is real. The clip back comes, and I don't

even be knowing this coming. My man be shut down just automatically. That's why I'm having a closed casket funeral because I know somebody gonna say something smart and I'm anna ask, guy, dude, can I get a too many past? Because I'm going back and check this bitch. I don't know who she thinks she's talking. I'm gonna raised about the castman, look at here, who you talking about? And then go back. You know, I'm opening that cast and

say get up, what you doing? You already put the sand on the door, baby, And not a lot of my family because you're gonna clump in there one of them shirts and tazz and that ain't how I really know you, or you might come down and things jump and wrote. Um for me though, I'll just say my final thought is, um, I really hope that coming into two,

especially that we all get out and vote. Um. You know, Florida just passed of another voting rights law that's going to you know, limit the ability for people of color to go out and vote. We also just found out that Keish Lance Bottoms is not running for re election

in Atlanta, which is so upsetting. So my main thing is I hope that, you know, despite all of the barriers that are being put up in you know, Florida and Atlanta and Texas, is coming up to North Carolina and North Carolina, there's there's a lot of cities, um where I think they're on the verge of turning purple, and we see that, and they're trying to put all these restrictive voting laws in place. I still encourage people

to do their best to get out and vote. I know it's going to be hard up in this next year and then again, but I think we should all we all have a responsibility to go out and do our partner high big mate, I'm thinking that we have to come up with a strategic plan because Nicholas, if your mom is in Land and I'm in Chicago and we're voting and it's ninety degrees are said, and she's an older woman, I'm going to have a volting chair or give her a bout the water, I'm gonna get

in trouble. So what we should do all these quiet, big names celebrities with all this money, because I ain't wanted them. I'm first of all, I'm still talking and I ain't got your money. Let's rent busses. Let's have a system of hiring busses for neighborhoods that have water and and and chairs and everything that they need on those buses. So if I'm standing in line for three hours, instead of somebody saying you brought me water, hold my place in land. I'm going to give me a chair.

I'm going to give me something to drink to keep me going. We have to we have to fight them back and be a little smarter than they are and strategically win this. In the words of Denzel Washington and John Q, the wife said, fucking do something. We gotta do something. This right here and getting it done. It ain't getting it done. We're still dying. Well, I think too.

That's where the strategic part's going to have to come in, because, like in Michigan, for instance, there were these group of women who were trying to transport people to and from the polls free of charge, and that ended up being illegal. They couldn't do that. So to your point, we're really going to have to get strategic, especially coming up in this new two because the laws that they're putting in place is making everything freaking illegal. I can't and when

the game change the rules. That's what I personally think that we should have a bunch of p Valley buses and let a bunch of old ladys to be on their stripping, getting their life. Baby. I got my dollar bill strip You ain't got a point. Did y'all see to get your booty to the poles from the strip Atlantic Atlanta, Atlanta down in the valley where the old ladies get naked. Yet, I'm just saying that we want a bunch of We're doing this for the older people.

We're doing it. I watch it. I can watch the strip. That would be funny and ship. Oh my god, oh goodness, Nick, where could everybody find you? You can find me at Nick Smith News on all social media platforms. And I am Lauren Hogan on YouTube, and yes, I played catchup and all of the episodes are now on my YouTube page, so y'all can go watch him there. I have officially caught up. And I'm also Lauren Armani h on Instagram. And I will not be in Delaware this weekie, And

that's what I am. I will not be in Delaware this weekend. I got a new job with Karen Hunt your Stidding next Friday for Series Radio. I'm very excited about that. What are you doing next Monday? Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that, Lauren, Thank you manager, She's so smart. Monday the seventeenth, I am fine. We're finalizing this show with um um the Comedy Store. It was a series for Amazon, and I remember I left out a couple of weeks ago early, so we finalized.

I'm taking pictures Monday with Dave Chappelle, Cedric, the Entertainer, Kevin Hart. I will be in Space Siffy, and I will have on the nastiest dress in my collection. Somebody gonna get excited. And where can every how do you find you to see that dress? You can catch me at Flame Monroe on what is My Flaming Wrong? Instagram, No ro Flame on Instagram, Flame Underscore Monroe on Twitter, YouTube on Flame Monroe and Marcus Flame Monroe Parker on Facebook.

But you can catch me tonight at six thirty six forty for Love Lounge because we will be there and we're gonna have a great time. We're gonna Love Lounge is not political. It's not this show. I'm yeah, I'm with God. When I say I'm weird God, I'm not Godly. I'm just sitting up there with that nigga. But we have great time. Bring your music, bring your relationship questions,

because I am a relationship guru. I have been the husband and the wife sometimes in the same night, and I may not be good at relationships, but I can fix your relationship. Canna, Nicholas, you sure can. Yanna ain't got shipped on me, and I got good needs. Come on with it. Thank you guys so much for joining us at Laughing Learn, because here at Laughing Larn, the message is always the same. What what is the message, Nicholas. We are not trying to get anybody to change their mind.

We're simply trying to get you to use your mind. And some of you dumbasses need to know that you have a man that you need to use, because the brain is for using. This is not the scarecrow. And sometimes y'all think that I got brains, But what's my favorite land from the Wizard of Oz? Some people without brains do an awful lot of talking. This is Laughing Learning with Nick Smith, Lauren Hogan, Flame and Row Kindle and Triple We out because I want to take my

wig off. Laugh and Learn as a production of The Black Effect Network and I Heart Radio. Our executive producer is Tiffany Hattish. The show is produced by Triple. Our theme music is by Chrissie Paine.

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