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so your first take a listen at young folks. You slip old folks that we take it. Can't no k do what you do, No do what you do, can't no kiss do what I do? No flame she Welcome to the laugh and Learned lady and gent one. Hello, I'm your host Flaming Road along with my beautiful co host Lauren Hogan. I'm here. She stick your head in the camera. Put do put the head in. Welcome to laugh and learned, lad, we're here and guess who else is here? Kendall? Learn here, Hey Kendall, and guess what
ms y'all are here? So we're gonna run a real short show today because we've been getting your messages that the shorter the better, y'all get more attention. So we're running real quick. Today. We got only a few topics, some heavy, something not so heavy. But thank you guys for joining us here. We could not have this show without you. So and we'll be back in the studio next week to stee you getting the face left. It's getting real and it's getting new internet. But you know,
just it sounds better face left. Yeah. So before we get started, how was your week? Ms? Monroe? Good week? Slow week? This week just meeting that we had a meeting this week. Yeah, we had a meeting. The meeting was just to me was just man. Uh, but we're moving forward, so we're glad you guys are here. It was it was a calm week. We got a bunch of stuff coming up in the news when the meeting was not a good week, but in my life it
was a calm week. Hi, Christy pots Well, that's good Chrissie Fox, that's Chrissy pain y'all, she wrote, laughing, learned with flame he he she week you she week? How was your week? Lord? My week has been very busy. Did um tomorrow? I get the Keys tomorrow we close s Girl Child. It's been a process. It's been an ordeal. Um, but we're almost there, which is good. Job has been
very crazy travels picking back up. I've been home for a week, which is nice because I ain't been home and um, I look like it so well we can't. We can't see you. Don't she look like she looks like a property on it? Y'all? Don't she looks she looks like this. This is what it looked. Child. It's been a process, but we're almost there. I'm feeling very Angela Davis, Pierre Jackson, Guardaloupe Gonzalez the additional last name. So let me inclusion, let me in on the joke.
Yang Jackson, Guardaloupe Gautier areas eagle feather. I want to just make sure I cover all the basis. Well, let's get into because we do have a short show. But I want to start off with something. I don't know if it's lighthearted, but it's you know, celebrity news. So Lebron James's son, Brownie James, went to prom and child. The people are in an uproar that he took this little white girl with him. So how do you feel about interracial Well, I don't know if they're a couple
or anything, but you know she's white, he's black. The people are in the uproar. What do you think? Oh, I think it's you just sending gun to prom. What difference does that see? I don't see that. I know you don't see color. I do see color, but I don't see love is And that's not to say that he's in love with this girl like you said, that might not even be his girlfriend, just be his prom date.
And you know we do our trunk record. It's easy to get some prom cat from Wait a minute, Well, the funny thing is, though, because you know Lebron, like his prom picture came out, he actually took a white girl to prom too, But he ended up marrying Savannah and having children. He's still with you, yes, yes he is, so you know, but what it's going to do is going to become a house of cards because they're already trying to pass roll versus Way like you always say,
it's it's just opening up a floodgate of drama. So oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that to your point, ro Versus Way is definitely serving as a bit of a gateway to other things like you know, trans rights and don't say gay and then now the interracial marriage and a whole bunch of other things. It's all going to call me. I'll tell you. I got
to set up and fight for it. And LORDE just made a point out camera before we came up, because said, that's a high school that this young man goes to. Is Sara Canyon, which is a very exclusive high school for a wealthier Yeah it is. Yeah, the celebrity kids, that's where they go, mostly not us. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of white kids that go there. I mean, you know, um, mostly down Yeah, like Dwayne Wade's kids go there. Um and I don't know mother celebrities. But anyway,
it's a celebrity kid high school. That's kind of what it is. So Mrvanna is not wary Lebron's wife, she's not. We all know she's crazy and we'll put the pause on somebody so she don't play and we love her too. So let me tell you something. We make it different. He would he took a girl to the problem. She happen to be a white girl. We would have had something to say if she'd have been a trans girl, or if she'd have been a fat girl, or she did you know what I mean, get you some business, shouldn't.
I tell you the funniest part that was his little sister's face. I know you didn't see it. I'm gon show it to you afterwards. His little sister's face is hilarious. It was given like, get out, what the hell is going on? It was hilarious. He took a white girl to problem ship and they had a good time. I'm sure, Well, how do you feel overall? Though? Just I know you said like it doesn't really affect you, But do you think the fact that, like now in a rate, marriage
and relationships is becoming a topic of conversation? Now, how do you feel about that? And you know how things can potentially be affected for people who just want to be in love. Well, I purposely think what they've always had an issue with inter racial marriage and interracial dating is always but it was it was kind of like downplayed for a while. But now now that the racism has fucking escalated and blown up in our faces, they're looking at every little thing that can poke the bear
to make it bigger. So they're going to make this an issue. They're going to make gay marriage an issue. They're gonna make um legalized everything an issue because what they're trying to do is separate us again. Then we can get back to Jim Crow and get back to segregation. On they watch, they'd be happy and ship. But I mean, yeah, that's what's happening with uh you know, reversus way. At this point they're saying, oh, you can decided state by state.
That's the same thing that happened with segregation. It was a state or in Jim Crow too, it was a state by state issues. So and speaking of women too, since we're on the topic of women, can we talk about these the shortage of baby formula but how all of these white men don't want us to keep our babies and have children, But how are women supposed to
feed them? I'm just gonna say this, Lord, I'm glad I didn't get pregnant doing depending thank you playing, because I'm telling you that is how do we get How did we get here to have a formula shortage and the riches and supposedly the richest country in the world. You you tell me, Laura, I don't even know. I mean the thing overall, Like you know, gas prices are high, because that's another thing. To buy a plane ticket now
is ridiculous. I had to buy a plane ticket for work the other day and to go to d C cost regular, just main cabin. Nothing. I mean, I get free upgrades, but still like and that's not first no, just main cabin regular to go from l A to d C. So overall, I just feel like I don't even know the fact that we're in such turmoil and like too much was times with just the price of living,
in the cost of everything. It's crazy. And to now see that we have a shortage for baby formula, but y'all want us to keep having kids and we don't have the right to choose anymore, and we have to at this point, you know, possibly have kids but not be able to provide nourishment to them is baffling to me. Yeah, um,
I don't even know what I would do. And then I saw online where some people have have um harvested just tons and tons of baby food and they selling at astronomical prices, like people do the same thing with masks. They are they are just they hoarded and get baby for me. And now they're going on and they selling three a kid. Yeah. I saw one moment and said that she had to drive like fifty miles outside of her town just to try and see if she could find some and she I think she ended up finding
like one can a store and she's got three kids. All. Yeah, And I just want to make a comment to where people are like, oh, you should just breastfeed your kids. Just f y I for your information. All women are not able to breastfeed because they may not produce milk. You know, the baby may not latch on. So don't say ignorant things like, oh, you can just breast feed your kids, because all women can't do that. So Laura that he was a baby, and I used to curey
her round of my arms. I think she tried to breastfeed one tap. She grabbed one of my booge you know, and she realized, Oh, that ain't no milking. Man, if you don't knock it off, that was your fault. You falsely advertised for the poor baby grabbed it. I'm like, girl, ain't no Siller milk, but it ain't no regular Silla milk.
Sill milk like silicon milk milk. Oh my goodness. That is very scary and to people who have babies out there, because they would saying you because I've seen two reports that they changed the kids formula because they ran out of one and they tried something new and the baby get really really stick to where they had to take it to the mergement because you can't switch it up on the baby system like you're very very gentle. Yeah, yeah, so Bobby Clifford, I'm gonna go, oh, I can't even
grab you. I'm not right there. Can you do it like that? That's what I just try to do. Bobby Clifford, tend us a request. We'll bring you When we're gonna start talking to some of the flames, I said, yeah, hit the thing, Yeah, hit the thing, Laurie HOGI let flame. Let me tell you, Oh sh see you I always talking about me in my hand. I don't know how this thing works. How do you go back? The blood of Jesus, y'all, It ain't me. That's Lauren, y'all. That
ain't me. I don't know how to work on Android. I didn't told her that is not me, that is Lauren. It is I wouldn't want to have a baby right now because it's too scary. M Bobby Clifford, send us a request so we can grab you real quick. Somebody saying pet me pep pet milk is heavy, and but the baby and not have to be adjusted to it. I know you could dilude it, but the baby still got to get adjusted to it. Yeah, crab pam. And then we just got a shipment of milk from overseas.
But here's my question about that. So y'all willing to accept pet milk from my did it come Rechina child? I don't even know. So now they got a test on this molk before they can get it out, but then they ain't think it's the same places that John saying was pushing out coronavirus, and now we got monkey pox and chow. We get out of one pandemic to go to another one. This is left laugh and learned. Hi, Hi Bobby, h girls, how are you good? How are you?
That's good? I was just saying that I think it's so stupid. I've heard that comment before about just breastfeed, Yes, getting breastfeed. You are you stopped breastfeeding? You can go back to it. So what are you supposed to do this when Bobby, when you stopped breastfeeding, does your baby does your body start producing milk? Yes, about three days. It's it's painful, it's sore. I did a breastfeed, so but I so I went through it up front. It's sore.
But once it's gone, it's gone. You know, there's no tapping into it. Yeah, I mean, and I'll say this, it's an ignorant comment to say that to people, well, that that you don't have a go and breastfeed, like with what Yeah, And like I said, every woman can't breastfeed. You know, the baby may not latch on, or she may not produce enough milk, and then the baby is not getting enough nutrients. It just wasn't for me. I knew that. I thought it was iky for me, and
I thought I would tense out for the baby. And I'm like, that's so good either. So I just I you know, I was younger and I just bottled it from the beginning. So if this was me and my baby was six months old, I'd be screwed exactly. And then you have people making in sensitive comment it's about your being dramatic. Just breastfeed, that's honestly what pissed me off the most. But yeah, it's it's yeah, it's it's
it's an ignorant, ignorant thing. It's because it's not them that's going through the crisis at the time, exactly what I'm important to them. Well, same thing with you know a lot of these Republican lawmakers, you know, basically trying to ban abortion. It's interesting how they they care about the fetus, but once the baby's out, it's like, oh, you're on your own. So how am I supposed to make sure that this kid grows up properly, is tended
to as well, taken care of as healthy. Y'all don't care about that, because my thing is, if you want me to have this baby so badly, then pay for it so I can take care of it. Well, I'm with you, I always um. I use the expression I'm for a life because I'm for all life, not just when it's in the wall. I want everything beyond that to be to be taken care of. And people don't.
I've had a special need sister, back in the Seven Meets when it wasn't popular to have your kids out and about, So I can tell you that's certain stances for a lot of these poor kids were miserable. And these people are Bible something. You know. They went on to have ten more kids, but they dumped they were on the kid in at home and forgot all about them. That's not pro life. Yeah. And when I when you say pro life by because I said that last week, I'm pro life, but I'm pro choice when I believe
in life. But I mean it's the same to me. It's like the double thing. But I'm pro choice. I'm not going to tell you what to do with your body. That is your body. For me, I was pro life, so I had my son, you know, young single because for me, I was pro lif But for everybody else, I'm pro choice. It's whatever you believe. So in Catholicism we're taught that that life begins at conception. Not all
religions feel that way. Some religions feel abstracted the first grap so I hearn't put my feelings on somebody else. So only for me, I can say that. For everybody else, you've got to do what's best for you. When we've been talking about the whole roversous way in abortion laws, there's so many the reason that think that because Lauren, Lauren, maybe me and somebody you flame women made me know that it's that white women are having abortion because they
want to appropriate. They want more white They want to keep the white races, so they want to have more and more white babies. But I think a lot of white women, not you by me, but I think a lot of these white women have realized that a lot of the kids that they are haven't turned out to be a little who because a lot of no And I'm and I said as a joke, but I mean it because you have no control over Like I'm not
giving the cowardice murderer in um Buffalo a pass. But his parents came on to say that we didn't know and that he was depressed because of the pandemic. What ship we all depressed because of the pandemic. We all had a heart that is that is an excuse and a cop out. But I do believe that a lot of women, white women, to say that they don't want to have more children because they don't know who their
child is going to grow up and become. I don't think that it becomes more of an embarrassment than it is a shame. I don't want my I'm transgender. I want to speak. I'm a transgender father of three kids. My kids probably would have been expected to grow up and be kind of fucked up, but they not because I'm I'm trying to raise them normal because it was important to me. You're grounded. So in these family I mean sometimes from with this expression playing. This is an
old timey expression. So maybe Lauren mcmigondo, as much of people would say that kid is a bad scene. Lauren, though Lauren was mama taking all the old people ship. You can have really good parents and sometimes there is a kid who stepped something on and that doesn't take away this kid could be could be mentally ill, but that doesn't mean he's not a racist. And there are two separate things unless you believe that racism is a form of mental illusten and you know which is not
as well. I don't know. I'm not a professional. Well, if if that coward last week was mentally ill and racist when he when he well, he's definitely racist. Well when he got to the white man and he said, I'm are in the midst of killing black folks and went on to continue killing black folks. Whatever we thought that you was gonna try to pull as a plea.
You threw that right out the window, as they said, don't throw out the baby with the bad water, nigg you without the baby the bath tube of the water. And so that's what I'm speaking to when I think of him as mentally you kind of be that hateful. So that so that instance where he saw the white person and apologized that even drove it home even more to make hateful. And so there's something gonna be off,
but it does make a difference. You control it. Take a pill, get some help, you don't go in and you don't kill, you know, kill a bunch of people. You know, if we if we have depression and bike poler when we make those people taking medication, people you know who have other issues or ship we all the press. We ain't going around shooting people. We ain't driving for
hours to somebody else neighborhood. And not even that, not on that day, because he went to the store to scope out, yes, to scope out the place and talk to black people, Yeah, and talk you don't hate black people and then gonna kill him and you talk to them. That all of that ship right it them a prosecutor, I'd be the worst prosecutor in court. Well, yeah, because if we officially wanted to shift to the Buffalo shooting.
I also blame TOPS, like in general, like the management because apparently some of the store clerks reported that this man kept coming in there and saying the in word and making racist threats, and the management didn't do anything. I did wasn't aware of that. I don't know why they wouldn't have called the police. I would have just to have his dass falled out. Nobody should be shopping and have to listen to that. It's bad enough shopping. I ain't quote through shopping. Yeah, I don't need to
be sitting and salted exactly. So he was coming for several weeks and scoping out the place and actually engaging with, you know, the black people that were working in the store, and making racial slurs and like being verbally abusive, and some of the employees reported it and Tops didn't do anything about it. We're gonna go out the Tops, and then we got to go out to the FBI. Two. They knew a year before when he put threats out to the school. He wrote manifestos he had shoot on
his Instagram page. Well, I definitely blame the FBI for a lot of knew he was damn walking up case. Back again to when I said, y'all know a little billy is crazy, but y'all help a little billy get a job as a police officer and give him a badge and put him in the wrong neighborhood. His parents had to know that something was off balance with him.
I'm I'm not giving the parents a pass. And why why you as a parent at that point, you know that if one of your kids, something was awful little with one of your kids, and if it's a four hour drive down in a four hour drive back, wouldn't you say, where the hell's my kids? For ten hours a day? You would think? I mean, I would have if I had a kid. I had a kid that's had, you know, depression and suffer from it. And I watched your every movie makes I kind of imagine him disappearing.
But turn I was a day at eighteen years old, not knowing where he was. I know he's a grown up, but I'd still I'd be like, I don't know. He's the scariest part of it. He's the oldest of four kids, and he's eighteen, and he hate black people that much in that home. What the mother three doing, what the mother three kids doing with because see, I don't know
what the parents. Yeah, and I don't know what the parents who are made aware of the family, right, So yeah, and I don't know what the parents involvement is in terms of teaching the racism within that household. Apparently he's you know, been listening to Tucker Carlson and you know, researching replacement theory and all of these different things. So I don't know the parents contribution. I would say to,
you know, his idea of racism. But that is scary though, to think that you've got three other kids in the house and your oldest has become a you know, a mass you know, murderer. So yeah, absolutely a mass murder. But you also have to think, I mean, strangely enough, so my family is obviously democratic. Do you know my little beyont Simr Teresa is a Republican and she absolutely is a staunch Republican. A bit but wait a minute though about but Bobby, wait a minute, because there are
some good Republicans. There's some bad trumpl kids. Well, there's some bad trumpl kids personal you know, like like Terry. The first person they cut is you your services, So you would think she did, but she's like, those are those people. The only point to say that story is you can't have people in a family and and a kid can't pick up bond not necessarily the parents ideology. That's all I'm saying that that was we were shocked.
I took her to um to go vote ones. I think I told you the story, and I'm like, Teresa, I will take you to the out back and we will get a burger if you vote for GOA. So she goes in, she puts her vote in and I went, yes, we're leaving, and she's putting it in the slide thing and she says, she made me both for the small shrub bush, son of a bitch. The cop comes over and he said, what the small shrub? They didn't know Terry speak that that meant bush. And I'm dragging her
ass out of there. I'm like, you're getting McDonald's. No, you're what's true, but you are hilarious. Oh my god. Really she likes the platform of the Republicans, So you can't these these parents might not necessarily it might have been, they might not have been horrible. That's all I'm saying. They might have been horrible. I don't know. Well, he ain't learned no in word from watching Good Times in
the Jeffersons. He was sitting at that dinner table. No, no, no, this is he reminds me of remember now that we've got the internet and everybody's out right, uh, everybody's gonna lot to say. When Flame and I were coming up, these were the people that hung in the basement that she didn't fitting in with anybody, and they were researching, and I had the feeling that he, like a typer Calson, he latched onto something and just his hatred grew like
a fungus. She felt like he belonged to something. Yeah, yeah, and that's exactly it's a misfits Lauren, Right. Yeah, And was it a hatred more than it was an emptiness? Was it a hatred more than an emptiness because the hatred it hate. Hate is a very strong emotion. Yeah. But if I think I'm like Lauren, he he needed something,
he needed to feel like he belonged to something. And they said that he was initiated on the internet at eighteen, people that he never even saw their faces This is showing you that this was a lost human being that that needed something to validate to make me feel like I'm a whole person. I'm sorry that he went down this way, especially for the families said that, but I hate that he got away without incident. And I mean I'm saying that and I mean it completely. How Yeah,
I don't know how. He reminds me of the correction officer, right, Just somebody looking to grab onto something so that they belonged. Um, she grabbed onto a criminal and he grabbed onto She didn't grab She didn't grab onto that criminal. She grabbed onto something. But it wasn't a criminal. It was criminal
what he had because he put it on it. I just find it so baffling that I just think it's baffling that he got arrested with no incident, with no incident, no incident, not a scratch on not and he they gave him time to take off his tactical gear and everything. That's the part that's most baffling. Has that been one of us, we'd have been dead. That madness though, guys, I think that they didn't want anything to go down was wrong. They didn't wanted it to be perceived as
he was being abused. They also wanted to see as he took each layer, what was underneath, you know, potentially, and remember everybody's got cameras now. They didn't want to go on, you know, being shown that he was being abused in any way. Um, he should have been. He should have been because I think two days prior, you know, there was an incident in Oklahoma where a black man was shot by cops and he had his hands up. So I don't I don't really, I don't know, but
where each somewhere a little different. I'm just saying, I'm wondering because you know, what's so scary, boy, if I was in the store, so just say, I'm just giving you guys for instance, So if I was in the store, or some other black person was in the store and they were they had a weapon on them, and this went down and they got to a place where they could see him and they shot him. They shot him in his head because he had own body arms. They
shot him in his head a couple of times. And even if he didn't that if the black person came out with the gun, who was would have been the hero? And that's all they saw and they wasn't away. They would have shot that black man with their gun and he saved lives. They would have shot him hands absolutely, they would have happen. Even with his hands up, they would have shot him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know we wouldn't have been able to, I would say, even so, this kind of teaches us, not that I have a
gun or a weapon your head. But that's a it's a tiny target. I checked for the legs, the ankles below at least get him on his ass um you know, it's the only place that they have the armor right here at the pants down to the knees. So I don't know. The neck up is the look. The neck up is a great target if you ever go to the gun range. Yeah, it's the neck up is a great target if you ever go to the gun range. Yeah. Ship is everybody hearing because I see the neck up? Ship? Well?
Ms Bobby Clifford, thank you as always for joining us. We love you dearly. Thank you, Bobby. Next money is Memorial Day, so we may not be on lave next Monday because Lauren's gonna be out of town and I'm gonna be pregnant and Kendall gets married and just like going on ship, look at me, just to predicting ship
making up stuff. Thank you, I'll tell you it was a short show, but it is so imperative that before we leave this show, we must tell you guys that they have implemented so many voting restrictions in so many different states, and there's so many laws now, push push and push it, and we keep telling you guys, please don't fall for the Okay, dog, Lauren taught me a very valuable lesson that she has taught to you all,
as well as everybody within her listening ear. If it was not so, if our vote was not so important, they wouldn't be doing everything they can to make our votes go away and not count. Don't listen to nobody telling you not to vote. You need some inspiration, damnit. Why Selma watch the movie que to see that you need? This is it is your responsibility to your ancestors, to
your future, and to your present right now. Because house they they if you're not paying attention to what is happening writing our faces, the Republicans are playing hardball and this is only if we don't do something to shake up the table, we're gonna be fucked matters as well, because we're getting governors, you know, sentence teats are coming up to primaries are happening now, and you know, in some of those swing states like the Pennsylvania's you know,
Ohio is kind of a lost cause because there's always been a red state, but some of these swing states are having you know, elections, and Republicans are you know, kind of getting those votes. What's the theory running off the replacement theory? Oh yeah, Pennsylvania. The guy just he's rent in front running because of that whole replacement theory because they yeah, they're putting all this bullshit in y'all head and y'all band it and believing it. You gotta
start reading and researchers. Stop listening to the popular news and listen to the news that's not so popular to the people who are out in the world. They might teach you something more than what the popular news is teaching you. Short version, short episode, Thank you, Ken, and do uh come on, Lauren, do it? Are we saying our line I'm gonna do it? Do what I'm just scaring um here at last, and learn we have a saying that we're not trying to get anybody to change
your mind. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind, because in order to use your man, you have to have one. And I would just want to really enforce everyone here to use your man. And thank you for yourself. All that critical race theory they say they're trying to remove. Thank for yourself, because I'm telling you the life you save, maybe yours and your people. We've got a little berry white based on that last
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