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Keep Your Head on A Swivel

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Flame and Lauren are back in the studio discussing gun laws, more perspective/possible solutions to the recent mass shootings, politics and other happenings in the news.

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If you watch Coffee Time the baby you know the name Flame my role also known as my row Flame. Come in with last and come in with you love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from Fatherhoods of politics, shouting now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah you know she read shout towns

on speaking to the grown a second. We're gonna last kind of been kicking and at the end we leave it with just a lift dispiritcepect you want to revisit so your first like a listen, young folks, you slip oh funk that we take it to hain't no this do you do? No do what you do? Can't no kiss? Do what I do? Welcome, Hello, Flame, It's come on in, y'all, Come on in, Come on in. I know we're a little late, but we are here. I couldn't get my

composure together, ladies. Jim. I came on a little while ago, and I was in tears because of I was having a moment. And then I got this right here that my son made the Dean's list for the honor students at TSU even though he don't go there no more, and for science. So I was so proud when I was cramped. I didn't want you to see me crash. I had to wipe my makeup off and I always gonna redo it, but I might start crying and ship. Welcome to Laughing Learn, ladyes Jim. I'm your host Flaming

Roll along with my beautiful partner Lauren Hogan. Hi, Lauren high Flame. How are we your week? Oh? Um? Week has been very very busy, um, including today. But um, I went to a really nice event this weekend. I went to the Ladylike Foundation event um at the Beverly Hilton, and it was really great to just celebrate young women and um, you know, overall was just very moving, very touching. Um the foundations that by Leah Pump. Did you dress? I did? I ain't seen no pictures. Oh, I really

didn't take many this lady. Do not take pictures, y'all. Pictures. I don't want take a pictures. Speaking of pictures, we need to schedule a new photo shoot. Oh, you gotta give me some notice so I can go lose some weight first. Oh, here we go with this. Let me tell you that this is why I know I'm not a real woman. That's with her weight. Even when she gets skinny, she's still obsessed with her weight. Absolutely, I'll take this part of me being a woman. I don't

even damn about no weight. So yeah, you gotta give me some noticeing it. Okay, we're gonna We're gonna set up one to do like August or September. Okay, that's perfect, that's perfect. We have some fall colors because you know Lauren can get loose. Now fall colors, Lord fall, you know you like it dark? Anyway? I do. I love black. It's my It's my signature and favorite color me too. Look at look at it. Look how beautiful my black kid is. And while we're talking about beautiful black, what

we're going today? Long we're gonna start. I don't want to start a head because we all know we're about to get heavy. I want to start, like, First of all, I want to say congratulations to the most famous woman on the planet, who happens to be Queen Elizabeth. She's the most known woman on the planet. They just celebrated her seventy years in um on the throne for the Queen's Do you believe it was such a grand affair? And I watched all four days of this event. It

was so many magnificent, y'all know. I watched it for one reason and one reason only. Yes, I wanted to play play how much to the Queen. But the other queen came out Saturday night, the lady herself, Diana Ross, and I thought it was so fantastic, you know what. I was most impressed by the Lord. Four days in the UK, thousands and thousands and thousands of people out there, no altercations that we know of, no mass shootings, nobody did. They enjoyed themselves. What is the UK doing that United

States is not doing? They got some sense you heard it from HBC, you educated work. The UK has some sense that point blank period. I mean there they know how to disarm suspects without using guns or deadly force, and suspects that have weapons, mind you. And they were out there, Lord for four days, loving on each other, and all the pomp and stuffle stands for the Queen, and all the horses and carriages and the flags and life, and nobody was fighting, nobody was shooting. Nobody was even

looking around. He didn't see they were going to be shot and killing. Why we can't get there because they got some sense. That was what I was most impressed by, Lejim, because on the main time and in between time in this country, we had ten ten before. Before you move on, though, I do want to talk about Prince Louis Kate and Williams. The four year old before he was killed. That little boy, Nieces asked to be yes, did you see what he was doing to his mother? Putting his hand over her

mouth and going like this, that little boy, Nieces. But everybody raised their children diffriendly and at four years old. Let me chase there on the defense of a four year old, remember going to church or something like that? When he was told you had to sit and be a dignitary. I know absolutely, I know he was bored, but I'm just saying he was being a little reckless with his mama, telling her basically to shut up. So well, he's a prince in the making. You know they got

all the power. Yeah, well he's a king in the making. Won't he be a king one day? Yeah? Charles? And you know I don't think and in line right, it's just Charles and then it's um William. I personally think that Queen Elizabeth say I ain't going nowere. Im gonna make sure Child's don't get this seat. I think she's just gonna pass it straight over him, straight to William because I think childs they messed up when he married the old bro when he married Rue mcclanahand from the

Golden Girls, roach blanch because this woman is old? How old is Camilla Parker? Bows like two? But the whole event was so beautiful and it was just so amazing to see all these people and just people just and people flew from the United States to go there. People. Oh yeah, it was definitely it's a royal affair. And no altercations, no murders, no man shooting stuff. People just loving on it. I'm telling you, lo, i' I might have to break camp because what do you mean, I

may have to move to the UK. You're gonna become up, may be away. I made Boris Johnson boys John Yeah, way out there about the house, Tim, y'all. I've seen it this morning. They're about to get rid of him, against him, you know they're doing it that and it looks like what they said. It was like fifty one to thirty four against him against him the UK Trump You wanted to be Trump. You're gonna be Trump for real because he lost too. It's a day. It's a day. It is so decided to think that we had tim

mass shootings over the weekend. But before we even get to that, because that's gonna be the basis and the premise of the show, Flasks, we want your guys to come in and way on went in on that. Well, let's talk about the shortage on baby formula, baby milk you wanna talk about again. I want to talk about that because I found out today that Greg Abbott owns like he has the monopoly on baby for Me to being produced in America and monopolized. And we would have

never known that had the shortage never came out. They had it so covered up that we would have never known that. They talked about today that today on the view that it was so secret and they had it. So he has great Abbott, who is the governor of Texas, Texas, Yeah, Texas completely has monopolized the Baby for Me and so he owns it. This is why he own the abortion thing. And because we would have never known it had we

not had a baby formula shortage in America. That's interesting but they don't want to get it in Mexico has surplus, they have stopped. They don't want to get it from Mexico. Canada won't get it to US. Canada is not given.

It is it is if you havn't children. Right now, I'm telling you right now not to rethink it, but to stock up because things are crazy, and these governors in these Texas and these um Republican states, these Geopa states, is really out of control, starting with Abbot and Kent, who we hope to get, who we hope to lose, camp who we just won the Republican nomination for Georgia, for Georgia for governor. And so I think it's even

sweeter when Stacy Abrams beats him because they cheated last time. Yep, sure did. And um, what's his name? The Secretary of State, Ravensburg. He just testified for about eight hours in front of Congress about what happened with Trump and the attempted election fraud, and he's going to be over the governor's election again. So I actually have some faith this time that it will be handled properly. Yes, that will be handled properly.

I don't know what's happened with that January six, I see they putting this community together and all these people. They have a second public hearing happening in the next couple of executive privilege. And that was just any old regular smoke Joe like myself or yourself. We'd being locked up in jail times and we ain't gonna show up for sure, for sure, that's very true. We're on the lage. Yeah, I think I told him we were gonna be on the your page. That's what I asked you before we

started the show. Girl, You see how flame don't listen. You know, I had a lot going on. It's been a day. Um. The tim mass shooting stations, Jim, I don't. I don't even know to say Philly. They showed the one in Philly. Two guys getting to an altercation and they just put out guns inside shooting. Then the police see the guys shooting, so they started shooting. So people just running crazy, because you know how we as black people, you see one person run, every everybody break out and run.

That's just in your best interest. On So some people were keyed, probably back gunfight, and some people were hurt by trampling. Some people just get ran over. Yeah. I mean, I've been in plenty of situations where people start shooting, and you just have to have situational awareness, is all I'm gonna have to say, Lauren, you would get ran over the law. Now, why wouldn't let me tell you why? She would? Because she would drop her finny bag or one of her labels, and she going back to get

her lady. First of all, First of all, I would not be in a crowd that big without a cross body or a Fannie pack on, I would not have on the real back. But I remember in eighteen, I was actually in Atlanta at the eight three C Festival. I was with one of my line sisters at the time, and it just chaos broke out. People started jumping over barricades and my line sister was next to me. She's about half my size, but I always say this, I'm too big to fall down. I'm too big to fall down.

I can't do that. So she was on the way of going out. I picked her up just like this and we ran into a corner. And she still said to this day that I saved her life and from getting trampled because she's tiny. I'm too big to fall down. The beautiful part of you being tall. You're tall and graceful, because there's you know a lot of people that's really tall and kind of a little awkward. A little thank you.

You think the dancing sure, because if you had asked my mom the reason why she put me in dance class because I was walking like a dude when I was younger. I was walking like my dad and my uncle's. She didn't like that, so she put me in dance. But look at my faith. It's okay. I was giving you a door. You could walk through the door. Go ahead, go ahead, my baby, my baby, just best with Lord like that, y'all. Yeah, but I do know a lot of tall people that are a little awkward. Unbalanced. This

is the word we want to say. We don't want to balance unbalanced. We want to be nice. We want to be nice and unbalanced. Yeah, but anyway, too big to fall would never get trampled. Absolutely not that that is very scared. I don't understand what is the hostility of the the country that you can't go anywhere, You can't go to the grocery store. They had a shooting in a cemetery in Chicago. It is Okay, I'm older, so I see things. Let me ask someone younger than me,

what what what? What are we not doing? Well, let's just call a spade to spade. The n r A, you know, bank rolls a lot of these Republican politicians, and you know, it's it's been a historic thing. You know, they've tied gun violence and what's going on with gun safety to you know, actual mental it's been tied to

mental health. I will give you that. But the n r A has strategically lobbied against, for instance, the CDC getting fundamental gun research to be conducted about why you know, there needs to be more gun safety and gun control laws. But when your pockets are lined with people who are for a certain cause, nothing's gonna change. It's just not, especially from the Republican side, when in the Senate you need to have UM sixty votes on something like this.

That's why UM HB eight is still sitting at the Senate level and has been passed. It's just been sitting in limbo. And that's what's going to continue to happen. And it's it's a losing game that we're playing, y'all, I'm telling you. And until the the European Americans who are in charge get fed up with all this violence that's going on in this country. Nothing will change. We have shown many times that we don't have the power to change anything, but that's not true though we do.

We have the power to vote. But we have the power to vote. But we've got instances where, you know, I've seen so many reports on MSNBC about how, you know, people specifically the Republican Party are putting in specific strategies and tactics to deter one deter people from voting, but to also putting certain conspiracy theorists in these positions where they can you know, compromise elections and election count when

they count the votes and things like that. These are specific people that are more of the Trump era that are in these positions where they can say, oh, this is not a valid election. So that's what's happening, and nobody's really talking about that because we have things like mass shootings and other things going on. There's a lot of behind the scenes things that are taking place right now, especially in the middle of election season. I'm sick of

everybody using mental illness as a crush. If we mentally here, we all been discombobulated since the pandemic and the something that we never lived through, which was a pandemic. Most people who lived through the pandemic a hundred years ago are no longer with us, and the ones that I probably don't remember the damn story to tail. It's just disheartening. And it's saying and I'm tired, and I'm gonna pack my bags. I'm gonna move. I am I'm ana move.

Can we do the podcast? Long distance technology work a little bit better? Over there? We're gonna bring you out in flat mats because I'm telling you I'm not I'm in a mood today. And Lauren came in looking all nice and clean, and so bring Alison here two hours ago, and girl, you should have same man about twenty minutes for you guys here? What hair it was sitting in? What hair? I'm being an attack ladies? Gym millennial? HOWI Hi? Alliston? How Ms? Lauren? High flying? Hi, Cassie. How's that book

doing on yours? It's doing, It's doing it slow and steady. So I'm thankful for everyone who has bought a copy so far, and I just prayed they're blessed by it. Real talk that absolutely, So we go ahead of you. Guys can absolutely chime in, Um, tell us how you're feeling, because I know, personally I feel very drained and just I'm very fearful of being in a lot of public spaces. Like I don't want to go to a festival. I'm

damn near scared to go to a grocery store. My heads on a you know, high alerted at all times. I don't want to go to a movie theater. Hell, I have to travel for ten days and I'm going to you know, the South and the up to d C. I don't even want to go, you know what I mean. So, how are you guys feeling? Well, I tell you like this this is not a surprise, right, this just doesn't come as a surprise to us. But right it still works on our mental because we could be in any

setting in this to us. But one thing we have to understand and and and this is for everyone to to very much so very clear, is that when you are funded, when these political candidates are funded by certain organizations to push their policy through, they put people in place to push their policy, and their policy is passed. One thing we have to do, and that is put people and fund people enough to push our said policies.

If we're not putting people in funding people enough to put them in position and to pass our policy, we won't have any policies that are being passed in our favor. We have to fund the people who are we have to formulate these organizations, but we have to fund the candidates. And I mean not just our frind up. Everybody has to be on board to fund these political campaigns for people who is talking like we're talking because us understand this.

If you don't have people in office that understands your issues, you will never have solutions to your problems. And yes, the gop is IS is a whole ship rate, but I'm gonna tell you like this, they are a tried They their organizations are funding their candidates. Look at our candidates. We're not funding these people. So Alison, I want to ask you too, because I don't know if you saw it today, but in Ohio they actually just passed a bill for teachers and classrooms to officially bear arms while

you know they're at the school. So you are a teacher in the city, um in the state of Florida. So what's the temperament like right now? And how do you feel about possibly having to have a firearm in your classroom? This is my thing. We have to protect our kids. Correct, But again I fear for my black and brown children because with the white teacher carry the gun, how less tolerant are you to my black child? Correct? And you know again I think I don't think we

should go to gods immediately. I think we need to train teachers, train teachers how to decode, how to how to de escalate. But most importantly, the way things are going, we may have to sue it like the police officers. But do you think that that's fair? Though? That's what I'm more? Yeah? Is that fair? Though? That you're the teachers now? Is a part of your training to become a teacher. You actually have to get tactical training about what you're gonna do if there's an active shooter that

barges into your classroom or is on the premises. It's not fair because it takes away from education. We're already dealing with enough. And what does that do for your students too? Like it it makes your students what do they feel unsafe? Do they feel like, you know, fearful? Coming to school. You know, of course they half of them won't come to school. I think as a student, if my teacher, I knew my teacher was strapped and

and had been trained, I would feel safer. I would because then I know that I got somebody in the room to protect me. Um. I know they keep saying that the like you said, the temperament and they have some horrible children and key in class. If you got thirty kids and you got five crazy kids in class, you don't want to get so angry that you put out the gun on the kid. But if the training is right and the temperament is right, and you know

how to, like you said, de escalate the situation. As a kid or as a student, I would feel a lot more safe if I known that this woman is my teacher, she has a firearm, she has been trained in case something goes happened, because I can't bring a gun to school. But if my teacher is training, because especially if it's a female teacher, because you feel sometimes

you feel safer when it's a man. But some of these women are gangster, and I wouldn't feel a lot safer if I know that my teacher had the license went through the training and had a weapon to stop somebody if they came in our room to hurt us, I would I think it also too depends on what school you go to, because I think back, like I remember when I was in high school. Um my, technically my my, I guess selected high school free or whatever

the term is. Um. I had to go to Guardina High School and it is a magnet school, but it's not a good school, Like there's a lot of bullying in there's gang activities. So my mom was like, you're not going there. I ended up going to you know, Bishop Montgomery and Torrance whatever. But I remember at the time there was a kid that was being bullied and he actually showed up to school with the gun in his backpack, but the safety was off, so he slammed

his backpack on his desk the gun went off. So I think of things like that in terms of what about those schools that don't have the best environments and may not have, you know, the best facilities available, but you've got firearms in the classroom. Are they locked up properly or other students know where they are? Do they have access to them? That's what I always think of

worst case scenario in situation might cause danger. And then and then of what goes to I'm sorry, Cassie, But then my my mom also goes to see, you have like, for example, Memphis Memphis City schools, and then you have like Orange County Public school system. When you think about the schools that are still segregated, right, you have your

predominantly black schools. And when we talk about bringing guns in school, you know, because I I'm about the education and I'm about our children being educated, my mom instantly goes to the budget. If we incorporate guns into schools, these kids curriculum and and and their instruction is already not up to parts, not up to the best. So what happens? Are we gonna take it away from their curriculum in their and their ability to have the advanced

technology that other schools have. When you're following what I'm saying, are we gonna are in the teachers put that put more money into that. Are we're gonna put more money into the engineering program, because then you're you're lessening the intellect of our babies. I'm reading the comments of teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers, teachers are people. Teachers have families and children. They want to go back home to their families and their children.

I understand the responsibility of a teacher, but my life is still in so if I'm a teacher, I'm still responsible for me. I'm not getting on you, al I'm reading the comments because they're saying teachers like a teacher is a robot. The teachers there to do a job, but they also have to get to their lives, their families, their children. And I do understand that mistakes could happen because I'm doing going over the scenario listening to you talk, Alison.

So if a teacher has to run out to the classroom and emergency, if it gets to lock her desk or his desk and the gun is in there, and another student goes and there and get the gun, I hear all those scenarios. But I don't want people to disregard that the teachers are human beings. They're not just the teacher. They're to teach your children. They're there have to do their job, but they also have real lives. Because I think we forget that. We forget I don't.

That's why I was asking Alison the questions in the first place. Just about the temperament of being in the classroom nowadays, because I if I had a kid right now, I don't My kid probably would be homeschooled. Just just to be honest, My key would be homeschool and I I would have extracurricular activities, like they could go to a dance school or something like that where I know what the security is like. But I don't know if I'd be okay so to my kid to a school.

But Cancie, come on into conversation. But but as someone who has went to intercity high school, someone who went to a lot of high schools, I don't think that's right to have the teachers armed. For one, there's not enough teachers per students. So if I'm a teacher in the class and I'm armed and there's twenty five students, what if five of those students decide, oh, we've been a buck up on this teacher because we want to get this gap from them too. I think that, um,

we need to change the laws. And of course my state, in Washington State, it's really hard to get a weapon. And I think you should not be able to be eighteen, you should be twenty one to purchase anything. For one, you gotta be twenty one to drink, right. They change the laws in Washington State where you gotta be twenty one, I believe nowadays to smoke cigarettes. But you got you have. You can be eighteen to buy a shotgun. It should be twenty one. And there has to be background checks.

There has to be an exclusive close all the loopholes where they can get all these guns at these guns shows and stuff. So I just think it's too much for the teachers. I'm not a teacher, but I did work. I work with at risk you. It's too much to me to think about how much help these children and also trying to protect them at the same time. And I'm thinking, I got this gun on me, okay, so what if something happens. There's too many lives that I'm in that I'm in um charge of, and it's a

lot of stress. The teachers don't get paid enough as it is already, and then you're gonna add this extra stress on them having to carry an arm. I wasn't hired to be law enforcement. I'm hired to be a teacher. I'm here to pour into these kids. I'm gonna protect them as much as I can, But I also got a family, just like you said, Flame, that I'm trying to get home to too. So I think it's too much we're trying to do with these teachers. And I agree, and I think that there's a lot of great comments

that are being said into your PointCast. You gotta be twenty one to drink, you gotta be twenty one to buy a cigarette, you gotta be twenty five to run a freaking car. You know what I mean, and I mean and in all honesty to kind of bring it back to you know, Flame is talking about baby farm the shortage. If we put as many restrictions around how white men want to police women having abortions, why can't

we have the same criteria for guns. I agree with you, and rewrite the damn Constitution because it was written back in seventeen seventy six and tims have changed. When people were considered three fifths of humans, Well, rewrite it down because it's ridiculous. And to Lawrence, point to your point what y'are saying. I hear what you're saying about to teach us, because the teachers have always been overworked and underpaid.

That's one thing. But secondly, I don't really happen in the in the poorer or well, not to say that they don't, but most of them happened in upper echelon schools or higher end schools, you know what I mean. I mean, if we had to do it statistically, it's

more happening high end schools than it does. And just like the underprivileged schools, we can fight, but they have massive ones in schools where they have more money, better pieces like the column Bones in Yes, like the Sandy Hook that was a high end school that wasn't just a running the meals, you know that. And so most of these major ones happen in schools where we're not well. Sandy Hook that was just as white supremacists that strategically went in to go shoot up black kids. Let's and

nothing's changed, Yeah, what's changed since Columbine? Nothing's changed. Like some states have made it harder for you to acquire a gun, but other states have made it easier. So it just depends on what state you live in, what city you live in, just you gotta keep paying attention to your surrounding. It's like we got the wrong people in positions of power. That and like you said, the NIRA does have a lot of money and they control a lot of stuff. I don't know to what extent,

but it's just wild. It's wild. Yeah, And I mean, and I think about you know, this conversation has been happening for so long because if you think about even the movie Higher Learning, that's what this Higher Learning is based on this and that was filmed in the nineties, you know, and it's we're still having this conversation today about white supremacists doing mass you isn't shooting black people. It's still the conversation. So so now we gotta get to we were we were in a discussion and are

you in an ambulance? No, I'm moving, okay. I was like, are you okay? Are you in an ambulance? Because I'm looking at her background like, are you alive in an ambulance? Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, I yeah, I'm moving. Nonetheless, guys, so we were coming up with solutions of how what

what could be done. We were in a we were in a committee meeting, and so the first they said, you know, increase the police presence on campus or they said, um, one of the ideas said we can get the you know, the National Reserve to guard the school, just like you go on base and they're standing there with the guns, and then you have the National Reserve out there, the National Guard out there, you know, idea and everybody to come in to uh to the school, to to safeguart

to school. Um. But again we still had some some reservations with that as well, because again we're concerned. We have the black teachers who are more concerned about the black children, and our black children are fearful of the police. I don't care if the police is black. We have one black officer at our school and one white, and they're fearful. And you have to in a sense respect that because look at look at what's been shown to them, right,

and so that that is where we are now. It may work for Windomere, you know, it may work for Dr Phillips, but it's not gonna work for Evans High School in Jones High School. So you have to look at the demographics of the schools. Yeah, I agree with I have a problem with that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Lauren, because because if you put the reserve or you put more officers in the school, it's just like we're running

the school. Like a prison. Just like the prison has all these CEOs around and you know what I mean. So it's like the prison that the what is it called the school to prison pipeline. It's like we're already setting it a certain way, so now we're bringing in

all these arms. Just change the gun laws. Well, I disagree with you on that front, Caste, because, for instance, if you think about like Spellman College, we had a p D on campus seven because if anybody knows history of hbc use, you know they're built in not the best neighborhoods because that's where they could afford the land. So Spellman, for instance, we had Atlanta Police Department full

on officers strapped with guns seven on our campus. Like you can't go through the gates of Spelling with college but high school. But I'm saying they're still college. There's but if we're gonna take the security format of college at this point and start implementing them in high schools and elementary schools, I don't see that as a bad thing because when I stepped onto that campus, I felt safe with all those police around me. I didn't. I'm

into Allison's point. You know, you've got some of these kids who are feel fearful, excuse me of law enforcement if there needs to be away, if you're gonna have police presents that kids, it feel safe because when I'm on Spellman's campus, I know if you try to run through those gates or you can't get past a p D security at that front booth, you cannot get past them, and they're strapped to make sure that there's no craziness that happens on that campus. I felt safe. Being in

the West End, not the best neighborhood. There's crackheads everywhere, there's crime, there's murder happening all in our midst in the Atlanta University Center. But when you stepped on that campus with all the Atlantic police officers, I felt safe. I did. But kids that as afraid of the police, I'm grown. I don't want to. I don't want any kind of interactions with the police. Not that I'm a fearful that them or them hurting me. I'm more fearful of how it would go down between us, and not

because I'm a gang so I'm no hardcore. I just don't know how what kind of day I'm having or what would you run for me? Because fear sometimes will take over if you come into me at to stop saying or to realize you pull me over and I'm completely legal, I got licensed, insurance registration, everything of the part. But something about me triggers you and you move defense or you got your hand and your gun. I have fear. You got your hand and your gun. I got my

hand on man. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't want to. I don't want any instances with the police for me or my children, not because I'm afraid of them. I'm afraid of not baking it back home to my children. And that's that's me being honest. But even like Allison said, some of those kids are extremely afraid of the police, So even having a police president

doesn't make them feel any safer. And who's to say if something pops off, the police is gonna be able to differentiate between a black teacher that's carrying a weapon and the person that's committing the crime, because at the end of the day, you're black before you a teacher. Yeah, but when I was growing up, it was a different climate because officers that they used to have a date once a month or once a year, officer Friendly would come.

Remember that officer Friendly would come to the school. It made you friends with the police, made you think that the police were there to do their jobs, which is to serve and to protect. I don't even know if they do that in school. When I asked my daughter, she said she'll never She's fifteen. She said she's never experienced that, and she's compression in high school. So they

stopped that. So to me, it's part of society to say, hey, let's put us in a place where the kids can be familiar with the police and ask the police questions. But a lot of these police are not qualified to have these jobs, and so they don't even want to go to the schools to interact with the childs. They only want to go to the schools when there's something violent and they can be triggered happy and pull they goddamn triggers on their guns. All of that has been

taken off the table. I think it helped. Looking back on it now as we're having this conversation, I think that made me more familiar with the police. And then we never had a black one come. Let me just say that we always had a white police officer, and I went to a very black elementary school. But there was always a while, but he took down this whatever shield he had and feared because he was cool. We

would talk to him and ask him questions. He would come around and shake our hand, he let us such as badge. It just made it regular, you know what I mean. You know what I mean, And I didn't work well. I mean in my for instance, my grandfather's x l A p D. So is my uncle, he's x l A p D. And then my dad, you know, is deputy chief for chief deputy for l l A City Fire Department. So I've kind of had law enforcement

in my midst all the time. But that's not to say that I've never been racially profiled by you know, c HP. I had three instances when I first moved back to l A to the point where my dad was ready to go down and fight c HP. Like

I've had good and bad interactions. But saying all that to say, you know, and I'm just taking it back to for Spellman, for instance, having you know, a p D on campus, because it does come down the cost at the end of the day, but a p D takes care of that costs though to have them on campus, and this is overtime for them. So that's what I think police departments need to do, is you need to

actually heighten presence on campus. Of one, teachers don't have to bear arms and do all of this extra psychological evaluations and all this stuff. Have those police presents on these elementary school campuses to ensure safety and then make the police department pay for it. That's what they need to do. So it's not costing schools any money, right,

and it's built in. And see the part because your local city, your city police is funded by your local government and so they get a budget out of that local government to to have these said resource officers is what we call them here in Florida to come into the school, and particularly where I'm from lp D, they pay the resource officers out of that local budget that

they received. It also helps to have a fantastic p t A because the p t A can move some that other people cannot move, will have fundraisers and to hire private security or private assistant teachers for the school. A p t A, a great p t A in the school really does help. I learned that as a parent. Well,

I just feel like the amount. In most cities and states, the police department get the most amount of money in the budget, to Allison's point, so they can they do to spend a little extra to insure safety for our kids. That's all I'm saying. If and A p t A haven't raised money, let the police department pay for it. They got enough. Yeah, Oh my god, oh my god. I've learned exactly, And that's the problem we we've I'm just saying, we've talked about it on the show, talking

about hitting them in their pockets. Actually make them spend their money that actually helps the community they're supposed to protect and serve. That's that's what they're shielding in their code of honor, whatever you wanna call it, that's what it is. So let's make them do their job, but make sure they're protecting everybody equally, too, because there are some instances where their husband officers or high level security in these elementary schools and they go ham on on

our black and brown children. So if you're gonna put officers in the schools, make sure you're protecting everybody equally and do your job. Playing like you always say, well, I feel as though too, you also need to put officers in that school that actually looked like the reflect the kids that actually attend the school, because that's part of it. All three of you ladies, do you think that that makes it somebody that looks like you wouldn't

make you a little more comfortable? Cause when I tell you, when I see a black officer, whether it's like a black police officer, I feel much more comfortable. I do. Now, it may come out that you know, skin folk and kin folks, but that that could definitely be the situation. But I feel much more comfortable seeing a black officer than I would see in a white one, even an Asian one, because you know, Asians like to assimilate and no shade. But some of the Latinos too, they like

to assimilate with being white. So I feel much more comfortable seeing a black officer. That's what That's the beauty of Atlanta. You rarely see white police officers in Atlanta. Rarely ever, they're all black. Again, I'm going to the UK. I can't take it no longer. I'm just I'm over again. I can't do I'm going to UK. I'm about to become a brit I'm changing. I'm gonna be like Madonna she went to London for a weekend and coming back

with a British accent. You know, you know what would change the gun lost real quick if all of us we'll go get licensed to carry. That. Bet you they change them gun loss real quick if everybody who was twenty one and over and able to that look like us go and god license to carry. I want to believe that. I want to believe that, Cassie. But they said, we've got three hundred million row guns in this country. There is no possible way they're collect all of those guns.

But let's also just call a spade a spade, because in y'all can look this up. There's also we and honestly a nup talked about this too. It's convenient how there's some of these trains that will pull into the inner city like the Chicago's and even in parts of l A that will open the doors and they'll just be guns readily available. Now, where did they come from? Oh, let me tell you where these guns come from. I'm

from Chicago. My friend who's a drug dealer in Chicago who's still after this day, would tell me that they will find boxes of guns and the alleys on the South side of Chicago, boxes of automatic weapons and assault rifles and everything. Because the philosophy was, we don't have to kill them, We'll leave the guns to where they will kill each other. They'll kick yourself. And where did the guns come from? There? So we drop these gus. They don't have the bassports, they don't have the passports,

and these where these guns coming from? Oh hear me when I tell you, all of it is being set up crazily because and I hate to say that publicly, but my friend who is a fucking drug dealer on this outside and big time, will tell me if they would find boxes of AMMO and weapons just in an alley, like somebody delivered them there and say just have at it, because they feel like, if you get we're gonna we

don't have to shoot and kill you. Y'all gonna kill each other and either you kill each other for you end up getting locked up for not having a licensed weapon. Yeah, oh snowfall. They surely knew that on Snowfall. Yes, you do. It is. It is like we're fighting a losing battle and I don't even know how we're going to win. In the words of t t J. And keep your head on the swivel. That's all I can tell you. I hate that I'm living like that. I live like that now. I'm never a field for person. But when

I'm in Walmarto in the Costco. I just went to Costco yesterday, I'm looking around seeing who got an extra jacket on, seeing who got their hand and they who are looking at me crazy? And then with the mask on, you really can't tell a person's expression. You can see their ass, but you can't see their facial expression. A lot of people hear their mask on, so you don't know where it's gonna come from. But I tell you what.

I'm ready. Yeah, and I gotta tell you like. That's why I said I don't like going to movie theater because that's it's really the movie here that they get me at this point in time, because the last time I was in there, it was dark. I was looking to see who had a bolt or maybe a long trench coat. It was hot outside. Yeah, I can't enjoy the movie. Although T t J didn't say Top Gun the new one was good, I want to. I'm gonna watch it when it comes out. In the five He's

a cancer. He's a cancer. Nothing else needs to be seen. Yeah, So it goes back, It goes back to what boots he said. Boots he said the rapper boots he stay dangerous. You always have that. You always have to keep yourself dangerous, will be ready to go at all times, at all coats because I mean, it's the time of what you really mean. But I believe that there is hope still, there is hope. Again. We have to strategize as as a community, how we're going to protect our children, how

are we're going to push these policies forward. All hope is not lost. We just need to putting people in the right possession. I'm want to tell you something, that's not always about getting in public office. It's about sitting that those board tables too. I just feel like it's easier said than done. At Yeah, I I wholeheartedly agree

with you. I just feel like it's it's easier said yeah, because there's so much there's so many things strategically happening towards us to deter us from voting, or to just not encourage us to go out and vote and be in these like public spaces. So it's just it's harder, and like I said, and honestly, black people are tired. We are tired, we really are so. But I don't want to see top gun laugh stream. I don't want to see it at home. I want to experience in

the theater, you know. But I want to experience it in the theater when I'm not worried about somebody blowing my damn brains out because they're having a bad day, or they don't like something about how I look they or they're just crazy and racist. Yes, I don't want I don't want that. I want to be able to spend my fifty dollars for a popcorn episoda, LaVar I instacot to it's a great service. I say, it's okay, it's okay. It's scary. I'm telling you, I don't even

know that. I don't know the solution. I don't know if anyone has a solution to this problem. But God, and I'm hoping that somebody these legislations they send it whoever we're putting in office, Like Lord always says, if our voting was if I vote did not count and it did not matter, they wouldn't do all that they could to fight block out votes. Get together, and speaking of voting, I will be filling out my ballot today.

If you live in Los Angeles, please vote for your mayor and your city counselor and you're a new attorney general. We got a long We got a lot of people on the ballot coming up tomorrow. I want to shat something before we get off of here, because don't don't I don't get you a friend who's in politics, who will see in you who to vote for? Who? They My girlfriend sent me the breakdown of who to vote for and how to vote for that they send that out to especially like for the black people that are

on the ballot. That's why I do love us. We will. They will literally mail things out of this is the black people on the vallot and you should vote for. So I got my whole blueprint because man been sitting in there. I got my sample ballot y'all for my girlfriend. When I tell y'all, today will be a day of filling in the circles because I know that's not a ballot, right, No, no, don't put your friend was the sample ballot of how to fill that out because a lot of times we

don't take the time to research the name. We just figured, oh they're black, their name is Jackson, or their name is Johnson, or their name is brown. So they want to vote. That don't mean a damn thing. Research found out that candidate you're voting for to make sure that they have your best interests in heart, yours at least three fourths of how you feel. Because you may never get a hundred percent of what you want, but if you can get at least seventy five per cent of it,

that's great. Yeah, research people and something Google is a liar. Google said that way a hundred were a hundred and nineteen say that how you see how working? Again, Google didn't say that I'm working with a terrorist lady. I'm working with Lauren and Cassie. Thank you so much. I mean ship Alison, thank you. So Allison is to contender where she wasn't contending for public office in Lakeland, Florida, Lasium.

And we're hoping that when the next election come around, the Allison runs for something else because we did get behind her. And guess what, you didn't get it this time, Allison, with God damn it, We're gonna you're gonna get it the next time and is a resident flame Man and she's an author. She's an author and published author Identity Crisis. So you guys can order the book on Amazon to support cast see Cassandra Karch. And you got a book

club too. I don't know if you saw somebody in the comments there was like, you know, they got a book club and they're reading your books. Jewels. I want to flame jewels, um my queen artists who started the book club. So everybody comes on and talk about the book with Cassie and the chapters and that's just great. Thank you guys for supporting each other, supporting us here at laughing. I know I gave it to your heart this morning, but God showed up and said, you know what, Flame.

A community maybe against you, but look what you're doing. So if I don't do nothing else right in my life, look what I did. John baby smart that that nigga is brilliant. He must have got it from his dad. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate you as always. Thank you Allison, Thank you Cassie, Thank you Flames for joining us today. This woman is studio. When I tell you, I'm sweating up onto this week, up under this week.

Thank you guys so much. We appreciate you guys for joining us here at laughing lear because here and laughing Alarne, we do what Laura. We have a saying that we're never trying to get anybody to change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind. Because why you have to use your own mind to be comfortable with the decisions that you make in your life. Not in her life, not in my life, not in

Kindle's life. In your life. You need to be comfortable decision you may and if you are a resident of southern California, you u in l a. Please please go and vote tomorrow. Please go and vote tomorrow. If you think that being coming to mayor is not a big thing and that won't make changes in our city, you are selling. All I'm gonna say is look at Eric Garcetti. That's all I gotta say. Y'all know, Lauren is all up in that in that world too. She all up

in that world with her other jobs. So I'm telling you listen to Lauren. She knows what she's talking about. Thank you guys for joining us here and laughing learn. We will see you, guys, on next week. I appreciate you guys seeing us here today. I'll see all for love launce tonight. Have a great day, have a great, safe, protected week. Prayers to everybody within the sound of my voice, and they'll follow us because tomorrow is not promise and all you can do is protect you. On one message

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