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Hey. Hey, this is comedian Flame Moro and welcome to season four episode for of Laugh and Learn with Flame Monroe and Bobby Clifford. He she we how you too?

Why are you toots? What's going on?

Oh Bobby, it's been a whirlwind of a week. Oh my god, I've done What did I do? That'st week? I did the talk and then I did don Lemon great, thank you, and then I got a little controversy behind the donal Lemmy interview. So it's been a week, but I'm telling you it's been productive. And this weekend I'm so looking forward to going to traveling to the Dominican Republic for Coco, my girlfriend, Coco Bankcardia, his fiftieth birthday. Okay, so I'm excited about that, but I'm glad to be

It's going okay, It's we're like ending spring, getting ready for summer. So here in New England, I feel like it's ninety today. Last week it was in the fifties, sixties. We seem to go to a summer in a blink of an eye. Your body can't catch up, but you also have your little energized you know too, a little stroll today. It was really nice. So I haven't been doing anything soun like you. I didn't have an interview with Don Lemon, and there should be no It was

That Severan's pay was his friend. And you will get the chance to sit with with him, because I've already asked him to sit with us on leaf and learn to interview, so and he agreed to it. He just we just got to fit it into his schedule, okay, So he'd be willing.

So he'll be willing to do the politics and stuff. That'll be fun to have somebody on.

Oh that's oh yeah, oh yeah.

What he's looking for. I actually would be. My question would be what do you want to see in the fall if Biden gets a second term? What are you hoping? And vice versa. So oh great, yay, so oh see, you're even bring any better news. I'm clicking my heels.

So yeah, it's been it's been a week, Bobby. I had a great time with him. I'm looking forward to going to the Dominican Republic this weekend because I need a vacation and to get away from my.

D You really do, actually you do? You need to reach much.

Yeah, I'm going to write and enjoy and lay out my get a son hand and a couple of other things. But we'll see.

You haven't been on a vacation and it's always got work involved, I don't think since I've known you.

Yeah, this is no, a lie. Yeah, this is all me, just laid out. I could just lay out and get a Sontan, but I'm still going to have to come back to the United States to see what kind of drama we in. And since we're talking about our wonderful country, Bobby, what are we going to start at? Who do we lose? This week?

Lost Larry Allen. He was Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl champion. What's notable about him is that he was only fifty two years old and he passed away while on vacation. Kind of sad with his family in Mexico. So he was He's in the In twenty thirteen, he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, so that was pretty sad. And the other thing that I'm really sad on it's not a death, but you could be taken this way is Ciddy Laupper is having her farewell tour and I'm kind of sad about that. I hope that it's just

Yes, Today is the thirtieth anniversary of Sister at two. I watched so many of the cast members We will be Goldberg on the view today, Shirley, Ralph, Tanya Blunt who's from Chicago, who I know personally, and so many other other cast members on there, Kathleen the Jimmy, who I absolutely adored.

I do too, isn't she Oh?

She is just the funniest lady ever. And it was just really good to see all that. And I love that so many of them are still alive, you know, to talk about this thirty years lady, you look back and you're like wow. But sometimes it looks like I can remember everything that we were doing because I can remember things that I did thirty years ago, and I'm like, I can remember everything that happened that they on set and MOVA. So it's fun to have those memories. I

I'd like to lose a little weight, but you know, I think that music does that to us. So that it was full of fun at the acting portion, but the music was so great and I've said to you, we're the same age. Ish will say, you know, thirty nine in my age, and you will. Something will happen and I start to sing a song in my head and then all of a sudden, you know, because you're doing the live, you'll start to sing the same song. And I'm thinking, oh my god, it's that sunny, you know,

Also, I want to say, I'm sad to hear that Jlo's tour was canceled for low ticket sales. I think a lot of eveness.

Is that what it was?

Yeah, well, I think a lot of major celebrities people. That shows you the crisis of finances actually in this country for the common man and woman, you know. And it's not that people are broke broke, but people are holding on to what they have because the state of the nation is so tea toatter is is the word I want to say say, because you don't know, you don't know from day to day what's going to happen, So a lot of people are really trying to hold

He raised I think I haven't written here somewhere he raised in may A loone one hundred and fifty one million. I mean, it's that the saddest thing you ever heard. Now, I didn't know it was low ticket sales I got. So I have two pieces I got because we've heard all this massive that there's something going on in the marriage I got. I think it speaks to the Also, though the price of ticket sales claim. When I was a kid, you could go for like twenty five bucks,

For the love of God, so ijil, I think, yeah, I'm sorry, Bobby. I think Jalo's prices were a little excessive. They were Live Nation was paying her supposedly ninety million dollars for a Vegas reside for ninety shows, which is a million dollars a show. But I'm going to say this and this is no dig at Jlo. Because I love me some Jlo in the movies, but when I'm writing in a car with friends, I've never heard nobody say, oh, let's play some Jlo. I just have never heard that.

I think I feel like not comparing there too closely to Beyonce. I feel like they're both. I do say that with Beyonce though, with the music, she's a hell of an entertainer. So I think that the residency that would be something that I would be willing to go. I'm not going to pay a thousand dollars for it, but I think you're right. I know exactly what you're saying. So that that said, and then I feel like we

Oh God, I'm telling you, Bobby, I love my moments of today, but I'm like, oh my god, what are we going to do? I feel like sometimes when I watch the news, and sometimes I don't want to watch the news. But you know, we're in the business of watching the news, not because we do the podcast, but because we're Americans. We want to know what is happening

And enough of the political stuff? I mean, Trump had the thirty four indictments and he did do it. I mean, the receipts were there. He did it. But do we necessary We've talked on this on prior podcast. Do we necessarily need to bring this case at this time with the world knowing that the outcome is going to be so silly, it's going to be probably Finds and Cohen. You just giving him the fines as an asside, do

And as a trans woman, I believe that I secretly, this is my opinion, I believe that black men are secretly supporting Donald Trump because I don't know if he represents if it's the gangster in him, or is it the defiance in him, or is it I'm going to do it my way or it's not going to get done. I think that they believe that he is speaking a language that resonates to him. The sad part is you're causing damage to yourself. If you ask for me my opinion,

Yeah, I just don't in my opinion, just because somebody has been sent a trial and it might not have been a big case. We're talking as far as identifying he still is guilty of all of it. His experience is still vastly different than yours. He had the best of the best attorneys that were handed to him, probably at no cost of his own private dollar, you know, which is actually what got him in trouble with all

Yes, And I love that he will. He does because we always holler and separating church and state. I love that he separates that, yes I am the president and yes this is my son, but this is also a regular citizen, and that he does wrong, he will have to face the consequences. Now do I think that he'll get a little more special treatment than other people because he is Joe Biden's son, Well, of course I do, just like I expect Trump's children and Trump to get

It is. And with people that have addiction, what we're can do is we can support them and tell them that we love them, but we can't step in their way. Sometimes some of our I mean, you've seen this throughout your life, some of our biggest falldowns. We get the best information from that, you know. It's how we rise up, It's how we learn and he isn't this drug addiction if twenty fourteen, if she's rise, this was happening at

Well, let me just say this taking much prices was around me. I might have got pregnant too, because Hunting was found when he was a little younger. Let's just talk about it. Hunting was good looking.

Before the stress. He was before this stress he was. And that's another thing that that that's a father knows. So this is what I've said about RFK, And I can appreciate that he has been clean and sober for many years, but being in the in the White House, these are high stress, high pressure positions. I am sure Joe even if a hunter could have handed you know, mentally could have handled it intellectually is what I mean, not mentally it would it might have been too much

I don't know, as Americans, I think that we forget or as people period some days you don't want to get out of bed, and that's nothing that you're sick or you you don't some days you just don't want to do nothing. As the president of the United States, you don't have the luxury of having those days. And he is not twenty five years old, he's not fifty's eighty he's eighty.

No, he's eighty one. Yeah, he's eighty one years old. And I have said to you, I think if we had a better option, I don't think he would have run. I think he would have happily hinged over the reins. But because nobody else is stepping up or has a chance about going head to head with Trump, I think he feels like he had to stay in I think he'd like to go around and stay with his grandkids

City is what somebody else did over the president. Because none of these are Joe Biden's issues. These are his children's issues, you know, And we're not responsible for everything that our children do. But he is the president of the free world. He got a lot of responsibilities. Okay, Prayers to the Biden family and to Hunter Biden. You know, I don't know. I don't know all the ramifications of what has happened with Hunter, but I like Hunter, I like well, I like the Biden family. I like family.

Let me just say that because they're decent. They're all decent people, and they all love each other. It's a family that gets along. I'm sure they have their squabbles, don't get me wrong, I don't. I don't want to know things that have happened. Everybody can keep those comments to yourself. But the appearance that they give is that they all love each other and they support each other. And I love that Joe Biden has integrity and has

Yeah, and before you get in. Yes, Joe Biden is not perfect. He did sign the the bill about Stephen Frisco. He did that, but none of us are perfect.

None of us was the best at the time.

I don't know if it was the best at the time. Bobby, I'm not going to agree with that. As a black person, I'm not going to agree that it was the best at the time.

No, I understand, but it was. Well, sometimes it's the best they put out. These are two options. Once sucked and this was the best.

This is what I mean. But I think that being that that crimes bill, I think that it should have been reviewed a little deeper. But he didn't know that he was going to be the president of the United States one day. I know he wanted to be, but he probably thought that he would probably never be. So we have all made mistakes. I'm not It's not like, oh I forgot. I didn't forget. But like Bobby said, we only have two options, and I'm only I'm choosing the option that seemed like it works for me.

And he's presidential, so you know, between the two options. He doesn't talk poorly about anybody he's come even I don't know if you've noticed this. He's cut out and done a few ads about you know, Trump's campaign, and they've been negative, and it's it doesn't quite sit right with me because it's not him, do you know, Like it's not You can see he's uncomfortable about it, but he has no choice because he's got to He's got to reach these young people somehow. And I don't know how.

Something that the Republicans brought to the table that he was ready to go on with. But then y'all allowed the last administration to get in your head to make the bill go somewhere else, I'm telling you we are. It is so crazy. But Bobby, unfortunately, I think that we are going to have to learn the very hard way.

And I agree it's and maybe that's what every country, you know, like you kind of hit a point and every country has to has to you know, have some speed bumps. But I'm hoping something. I mean, this at least stops stops the bleeding end twenty five hundred. He doesn't have a restriction, and I don't know if that. I think people are concerned about this because it could

A bag of yuck because you know, young girls they're going to they're going to take advantage of those girls and destroy their lives and destroy their innocence, and just so it's so much, it's too much to unpack right now, Bobby, Let's go to uh ooh somewhere else.

All right, let's go back up so I can tell you what he oh, I just went by, So what he is doing. He's been so the US trying to China trade wars and kind of heating up with EV cars, which is you know, President Biden has been pushing for emissions at reasons. I know you've had you've got to hybrid yourself, and you've had you've got issues with it. But he wants, you know, he wants American evs to be used, not Chinese, and he's putting one hundred percent

Fresh.

Some are good and some are not not.

So some of the science that they made in China, I don't guess, some that they made in th h E and A.

China. Yeah, so some people feel it's kind of a symbolic move, but he's letting China know we're coming. You know, we're not going to put up. He had all those text credits from the Chips Act and the Inflation Reduction Act. So I'm hoping that somebody, you know, with these unique cars kind of kind of picks up the torch and keeps going, oh god, you know, we have to talk about and I really do it.

But they want it. They want it's they.

Wanted so Trump. So the Court of Appeals granted emotion for Fannie Willis. The judge who initially heard the case earlier this year, did feel that there were issues with her relationship, but felt they could be remedied, which they were by the partner. I'm blinking on his name right now, resigning what she did. So now it's coming forward again and it will be reviewed and we'll see where that's going to go. I think that this judge is just she's just looking for anything that she possibly can.

Too.

The same with the Jack Smith that canon, she's looking for anything she possibly can to try to delay these these cases. In fact, the one that's canon is overseeing is she has postponed it indefinitely. She has not come out with any type of date, so we have no idea. We obviously it's not going to happen before the election.

Be hear as younger about dirty politics. When I tell you that we don't have to hear about it, it's right in.

A face, it's right all over, and it's not one thing like so that's exactly dirty Polo. That was the Watergate. Remember that was one thing that was going on. There weren't nine hundred and twenty everywhere you turn it's nothing. And that's what it's making me sad about Joe, because he is going to have to turn to not necessarily dirty, but dirty than he's just doing. I don't like that. I like to go high and the go low, and you know, like I.

Like all that, Sometimes you got to get real low. I know somebody who went load this morning. Sometimes you got to get real low. And the first debate's coming up on June and twenty seven, and as much as I'm looking forward to it, I need Joe to be Chris like you always tell me I want. I want sharp flames. You need Joe to be concise. I need every punch to to have impact. I need every word to strike a chord. Yep. But you know it, whoo,

I mean they say it, everybody says it's going to happen, but I don't know, especially well, he's not going to be he's not going to be sentenced Trump yet. Like it's depending on what happens with him too, right, But somebody was talking about they want to bring U Joe in and have him have him looked at because oh the Wall Street Journal Murdoch's little baby, you know, and you know whose pocket Murdock is. And they had they had forty five people interviewed GOP as well as Democrats

Oh see? And that's just that is just com painting a picture of what they want joke President Biden to be perceived as I'm right again. I'm riding with bad he damn show ain't driving. I promise you he could sit on it. He can sit right next to me in the middle of the middle seat. You know they haven't had those middle seat cars in the eight seventies. He could sit in one of the right in the middle, on the whole front bro one of.

The bench, right on the bench. We'll get a big bench for you, or one of those you could do one of those motorcycles that has a little sun.

He can tell me to go left, go right, go straight, go backwards, because I'm going to listen to him because he will be the commander in chief and he will be the man in charge, so I will listen to him, but I will do the driving. But Bobby, I'm telling you right now, it is whoo mind boggling to see where we're hitded is mind boggling to see where we're headed.

It's crazy. I mean Trump every time he opens his mouth. And I hate saying this because I feel like I'm I'm part of the problem of pitting Democrat against It's not it's this particular man he's now saying. And I'm sure you've heard him all over the place that he never said locked Hillary up. I never said it. He forgets that there's you know, there's that bean footage like they say on the Bush Beans. I mean they bring up like five different times that he did. So it's

It his his, his his.

I think he actually, I don't know. I think he actually.

Said he had meltdown. He's had memories of moments of memory lapse and so many different things publicly. And yes, he did say he didn't remember saying lord Hillary up if she was convicted of a felony. And he did say he did say that uh, president should get should not get partied. He said lots of things. I don't remember if that was exactly the right quote about president should get pardoned.

As long as it's not him, that's what he should say.

But but everything that he has said that pertaining to someone else in the criminal activities, that comes back to bite the minute butt. But then he like he selectively forgets. So you're right, But Bobby, let me tell you something. I think we are selectively forgetting the American people.

I'm not I remember every I remember him saying, do you remember him going for TikTok's throat? Well, guess who joined TikTok this week and has a bazillion a bazillion followers already. I just can't believe it. And I misspoke earlier. I said that his campaign brought in one hundred and fifty one million. It was one hundred and forty one million. I apologize, I know, but I like to be I don't want people thinking it's it's it was one of a little.

Yeah.

I know, I know, and it's still and is still still doing it. You know, I saw something that I thought was kind of funny, and I wonder if they if they will follow follow him. So, you know, the Democratic Senator Bob Menendez is on trial in New York for corruption bribery. His son Rob won his Democratic primary

All the generations new change though, because let me tell something, and I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I was asked for when did I become conservative this week with Donald them, and I'm like, I have a damn conservative.

Yeah, but like no, but you're a moderate, You're you're you don't like like you're not giving it away like Bernie Sands an independent, but you're not giving it.

A Paul uh was one of my favorites, and he was a Republican. He's very seasonal, but his son Ram Paul. I never agree with anything that he said. And of course now the roaches are coming out because now he has come out. He's been quiet all this time, but now we're down to the finished land and now he wants to come out with his rhetoric about this, that

Do you think we spoil them? Do you think it's skips or the father like we'll even say Trump he was his dad was a bright man, an excellent businessman. And I think what happens is when you do that, you always want to give your kid more, and you want to whatever, and you spoil them and they don't come with that same heat because they don't need to. And then maybe the next generation does. I don't know. I feel like I feel like there's a little nurture in nature.

Well, you might have used the wronger example, I mean, I mean, I remember that John Trump was a great businessman. Because you might use the wrong you might have started off with the wrong family.

It seems like there's a lot going on at the congressional hearings there after Fauci.

I'm glad you brought Fauci. I won't get into that because I want to I want to close out. I never supported Fauci. Let me say that again publicly. I never supported him because I lost so many fans during the AIDS crisis. And I was never anti vaccine. I've had all kind of vaccines in my youth. I was anti the way they distributed this last one. And now he's under fire, people saying he's dead. So he's there.

You got to go with your God.

But when so many different people are telling you all these different informations, you don't know what to believe. Bobby, you know what I'm saying. You working in healthcare, so you were talking about the common person who does it. So if you hit me with this today, they say take it tomorrow is this way? The next day is I don't know what to do, so I imagine it.

No, I understand that, but I also think that so these people have been given in the congressional hearings, all of the people, they've been given the information. So what happens in research is it's the best information that we have at that time. They were given Fauci and Burke's and all of them. They were given information the moment by moment flame you know, they were saying, you know, this is what we should do, and then they would find something because they would just get a little bit

Take too many people behind. That some of this chemical warfare, and that that is my fear about us ever going into war in America, that the chemical warfare is a lot of carrier. To me, then I know the bomb is coming.

No, And I think you, and so even you saying that, that's why I want more research done. That's why I want to know more information because somebody could use this to weaponize. You might not kill everybody, but god, you could take a whole population out at one time. You could shut a country down for a financial gain.

I'd like to a lot of people. People could go blind, lose their you lose their sense of COVID took your sense of face, It took your sense of smell, it took your energy.

COVID Yes, for some people. For some people it took their lives, as we know, and people who who appeared healthy but had underlying things that we didn't necessarily know. But I'll tell you it's more what we were talking about when I was feeling a little hopeless, and it was definitely from this. It's the vitriol. It was the horrific, the wording, just like we're having the conversation now. We might not totally agree, but I'm learning from you. You're

Your disrespect blatantly allowed to happen at the top, and we're watching it. It's going to completely trickle down to where nobody will have respect from them body. There's a line from my favorite cartoon, The Incredibles where Syndrome, the bad guy, says he was going to make once every is what were they super, then nobody will be we have become everybody is the same. Everybody, well we should be the same. But because we glorify a certain people

No, it's something something, something has to happen with that bleach blonde body.

She was.

She was shut down. I mean she was shut down. They they did it very respectfully to her. She wasn't given any but they did it with her. They said, listen, hold on, he is a doctor, you will refer to him that way. I don't even know if she knew what she was talking about. You know, it's the same thing, Marjorie, What would you have done? You had a gazillion million people. I don't know how many at the top of my head,

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Yeah, So I like to see how she she could have done any better. But I think we can learn. I think this is a huge learning curve that we could have, and I think it'll be very disappointing if this administration doesn't do something to kind of figure that out. And then Merrick Colland he's not going to be intimidated. He was upset to they were being mad at him. He was Biden's consensus pick, and now everybody hates his guts. Bill Maher called him an attorney general Bomby fund.

Bill. I would like to say, I would love to sit with that man one day, Bubby. I think.

Show that's my bucket dream for you.

Say we needed to put yeah.

Yeah, he's half mixed, so so yeah, hopefully keeping our fingers crossed. There is a new bill out just that everybody, you're going to have to stay tuned. We don't have a lot of information on it. The Right to Contraception Bill of twenty twenty four. It is something that the Senate is expected to vote on today, fingers crossed. That

I'll take for those Playing B pills was killing me during the pandemic. Good god, I had them, at least fifteen of them. I ain't goingly well.

You know, we could say a little something about you. You could have got a hobby, make a bird.

House or something. Bird was always in somebody's house, that's the problem.

But Texas didn't do so. While they they somebody put put through a challenge to the restrictive bandon abortions and and Texas Supreme Court helped it up. So nothing in Texas, don't.

That's a whole another ball game. I've seen Abbott out there at the border in his wheelchair. Lord knows, I wanted one of them rocks to just flatten the tires on that chair. But we'll we'll, thank God, you will get to that, ladies. And I'm listen, this is laugh and Learn. We appreciate. We want you to send us more topics and more subjects that you would like to hear. Bobby and I discuss here on laugh and Learn at the at laugh and Learn podcast page on Instagram, which

Don't send any porn. No porn. I don't want to see anymore. My eyes have been they've rolled back in my head. I've seen things that no white fat lady should.

What she said, so send it to me. No, I'm just yeah, listen, we like they are.

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