It's Complicated

What's up tip? Yeah you know she read shout Towns on speaking to the grown a second, We're gonna last kind of kicking and at the end we leave it with just a lift dispirit expect you want to revisit so your first like a listen, young folks, let old folks that we take it to no this do you do? No do what you do? Can't no kiss? Do what I do? Welcome to laugh and learn with Flame, mon Row and Lauren Hogan and Kendo and we have a special guest today. Miss guy is running around here somewhere.

That's Lauren's baby. We're glad you guys came to join us. I missed my lawd. She's back, y'all. We missed her last week. She was playing looking for No I know somebody changed the date of the recording and some of us having to the so you know, she couldn't just roll with me saying that she played hooky girl. Don't worry about a little. They talked so bad about my week last week. Oh my god. Oh they hated my hair. They hated I did. But it was a brand new week.

I had got from Ny weeks from Cocoa, and so I was trying to make it look like Glean close and fatal attraction. But I made it look like her after Michael Douglas be the ass. It was after the fight, not before the fight. I was trying to go before the fight. I gave you. That's okay. That show was great Erica Alexander, thank you for our special guests last week. She was so phenomenal and so informative of giving us information about so many black and brown women missing this country.

On this put a little makeup on, just a little changed because we're gonna talk about some things, and I can't talk about my trans community. And I looked like trains because you know the little hollow. You're not trans. No, I'm just the anomaly of trains. That's what I am. I am from the anomaly from of course, you know HBC. You know she always wanted to her HBC. You shipped up in the oh my god, why she couldn't been

educated at a different college for the number one. Well, thank you guys for joining us today for having learned. So we're gonna we're gonna just that, we're all gonnadad right into we're gonna talk about what has happened. So this weekend, you guys were there with me when I went lave because I hadn't seen my mother in more than two and a half years. So I surprised Valerie. She surprised me because I walked to her house. She wasn't even there. She was down to damn how alway

running her damn mouth. Now y'all know where I get it from. But we went to eat. I had a great visit with my mom. Um. I saw some old pictures. I showed you all picture of me and Jail. I showed it to launch. I haven't posted it yet. I'm not gonna post it, um because I'm saving it for the book. Thank you. I shouldn't, he'll hope. So Um and I just had a great time. What I want to tell you, guys is that I actually had a chance to go to see the RuPaul's Dragway show. Thank you.

Cocomne Trees for the com ticket. When you see her on here, Laura, let me know because I'm gonna bring her own. And y'all known how I feel about RuPaul having an inclusion with having the trans girls on her actual TV show. But I was blown out the water at the production of it. And I'm telling you, Lorden, I owe you a big thanks to that because your

show was the actual first. I mean, I've done pageants and stuff, but Josha was the first capacity of a professional show that I've done in that or and so I knew all the Inso that was because I was I was a soilid show. I was behind the scenes. It was put together very fabulous. It was. It was delighting the costumes, the dancers and everything that the personality of a cocoon. Mantrees hosted and she was great. Eureka was great. Uh the other I want to miss nobody's name.

They only Smalls was her name that with the leg she was good. And the other girl Cahuna Monetrees. It was overall, it was a fucking great show. I encourage you guys, if you in Vegas to go to the Flaming Go and get your tickets to the root pauls very ratio. They inter trained the girl so it's not always the same girls or the same number, so it's a different show. But the show that I saw was fantastic,

and I'm telling you, it was fucking fantastic. And if it wouldn't have been, I what I said it and I saw Eureka Um. She hosted The gladd of Words, so she's very funny. H and Money is her last day today. It's her last day because she's going back off to tape her show that she does with HBO with Angela, so she's off today. But it was a phenomenal show and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I can only encourage you guys to go and see it. I

had a good visit in Vegas. Vegas had the best weather I've ever been since I ever been going down there to my family. It wasn't hot and it wasn't cold. It was seventy four, seventy six every day, great weather. But it was a lot of people. It was a lot of people. Well everything's opening back. It was a lot of people and I was a spraying as nobody were wearing masks. Nobody was wearing masks and we were

spraying and yeah, but overall had a great time. How was your week, Gloren, because we missed you last week? What girl, where was you in? Well? Actually did I travel? Yes, I was in Texas. So UM had a big event in Texas. UM but some you know, city council people and UM we partnered with this young group UM that actually makes movies but involves kids as a part of

the program, which was really nice. So we had a really cute event to showcases film around gentrification that was in the oak Cliff area in Dallas, which was great. That is the area where the Trains Young Trains Girl got Cute a few years ago. Oak Cliffe that's the real good area, right, Yeah, but if they're gentrifying it though, because that's the really ghetto area in Dallas. Yeah. So we had a whole kind of like film premiere around it. It's a short, like twenty minute doc. It was really good.

And yeah, so did that and then came back that Sunday and uh, yeah, I've actually got to be home for a week. So it's been nice. Well, we're glad to have you back to the look at let's got legs out today, y'all. Lower legs go for Lord's legs is about twelve feet long. For real. She could be a swimmer and swim with the women. That's another show, Okay, so let's just dive right into it. Let's start with Let's start light, and we're gonna start with the drawing.

Let's start light. So this morning I was on live on Coffee Time and somebody sent me this clip of your president, not just your president, but mine because I voted for him too. And Joe Biden was saying a speech and at the end of the speech, I'm just gonna let you all look at it. The question is whose hand is he shaking? Because what nobody there? Joe Biden had been in my love lounge, lovelies, that's what it is. Lord, Joe Biden had had a couple of

these gummies. Joe, Oh my god, man, he's just he's old, you know, he's getting a little old. And and as much as I am laughing about that, he tried to shake an invisible person's hand because he is older and it could be seen out or what have you, I would still rather have voted for him than the other one. That's that's not an edited clip, right, that's real, that's real. I tried to find it out, all right, Joe Biden, who was you talking to? Pemper? Somebody was on the

other side of Joe and we couldn't see them. I'm just I'm just asking for it's core. It's cool here, you know, I can't see. But it was what you think about that. I just think that he's you know, he has a lot on his mind. Um, Joe. I don't know, poor Joe got it together. I don't know what. Maybe he had a lot on his mind, you know, and he thought somebody was supposed to Maybe they rehearsed it one way and then it didn't happen that way. You know that happened sometimes I can I can see

that happening. Yeah, maybe didn't match rehearsal when you turn like like like tweets say, but when I looked over to the left and what nobody there? You're still gonna put your hand now, I looked over to the left. Poor Joe, Poor Joe. But like you said, though, I still vote for him again over Trump, over Trump. Even in these elections, I may still be voting for Joe Biden. Thank you and thank you for going there. Lauren because I want to talk about Elon Musk trying to acquire Twitter.

All of that to me is a smoke screen because he is in the top one percent. He's the richest man in the country. Right, No, he's not richer than Okay, but he gets the same tax break. So if they get Trump back in office, that means that his corporations has to pay zero to none of taxes. So that is why I believe he's trying to acquire Twitter so that he can put a Trump and Marjorie Trailer Taylor

green Back on Twitter to completely divide the country. If we don't know Trump for nothing else, we know that Trump is great for his divisiveness, and we keep falling for the Oki doke, So pay attention to y'all. I think he's trying to acquire to not for them damn cars, because the cars is I don't want no Tesla. They ain't got no brain. Tesla's ain't got no brain. Though now he ain't gonna be broke, but they ain't got

no brain because here's no decision. Because now did you see the man and said when the car cut off from here, he couldn't do nothing. He didn't know what to do with the car. You can't even tell those cars. Those cars cannot be told the electric because they're all electric. Girl, I could be in a car and he's driving itself, and the car don't have a brain, and I get through the end of a cliff and I need to kind of go either left or right, but it don't

have a brain. It can't make a decision, and it just filming Louise me off the cliff. I don't wanted that like that. I was just driving it. Well, I don't know the car was driving. I wasn't driving. I was asleep and it got to a cliff and instead of making a decision to go either left or right, it went off the Uh no, I don't know. I'm not not encourage you guys not to buy Teslas, but not for me. I need to be alert, I need

to be aware. Yeah, I saw that too, because I think he offered somewhere around, like I think to share the amount of like forty three billion dollars. I don't see Jack Dorsey's just giving up Twitter like that, So we'll see. And the words of Dave Chappelle, Twitter is not a real place, but Twitter causes a lot of real problems. That's the truth. It causes a lot of real problems. Yeah, it does, it really really really does. So yeah it's crazy. Okay, lord media, Oh no, go ahead,

I'm listening to you. No, I'm just saying speaking of social media. Um, a fellow member of the trans community that you know, correct, Sean Brooks. I've never I don't think I've ever met her personally, but I know of her. I know who she is and what she is. But she outed ben Zeno, who was I know him for being uh that artist's father, Coyle Array Um for you know, having a relationship. And as a woman, Lord, please let me ask your opinion before I give you mine, as

a biological woman, how do you feel about that? I don't think that she should have done that. Um. I think that she's wrong for that because my thing is this, like keep your business private, especially if you have that type of celebrity. It's just messy and it looks like you're you're trying to get a moment or chasing cloud. I don't think that it's a good thing to do.

And ultimately, you're putting yourself in a dangerous situation. And and and I'm with you, what what what were you what were you expecting to profit from this besides your name being in the blogs, because ain't no open checking for you to interview about that, Ain't no Gail can interviewing you, checking for you to interview. Please tell me what was the endgame of you outing this man? Because here's the thing that I've talked about personally many times. Tricking.

I'm tricked before. I'm very honest about that. But you cannot catch feelings for a trick. This man has a whole wife, a whole career, a whole life and now, yes, and he had a girlfriend. I don't know if he's mayor, but he had a girlfriend. He was on TV and whatever. But what what did you get expect a profit by outing this man talking about you tired of Her statement was that she's tired of me and using us as just like loving you in the dark but not in publican yes, And I said this in my own the

breakfast club the very first time. And you if you found as a trans woman, if you found a man that it is so comfortable who he is, that will take you to the family barbecue, hold your hand and keeps you in the mouth, and then you are one of the lucky ones, because if he's doing that with you, he's probably doing it with four other queens. That's just how they are. And let me please make it, make

it very clear. And I'm not knocking her for her hustle or what she does, but what she has done by outing this man because his story was not her story to tell, just like Lorden's life story is not my story to tell. My story is not her story to tell. You're responsible for telling your own story. The training itch that men have, and that's what I call it, because they have a desire to be with a trans woman, They're gonna always have that itch, and it's going to

go on until they scratch it. The fear now is that I'm going to scratch this itch. But in order for me not this, this story not to be told, I would rather kill you so that I don't have to never worry about you coming back out against me. Do you understand what I mean. It has put us in such a precarious position to say that now the next girl is not safe because men who deal with trainings and who want to deal with will not stop. It's going to That itch is constant until they scratch it.

The fear is now that so you won't out me, you won't rule my life, rule my career. I'm going to murder this queen because and nobody would never hear the story. I'd rather take my chances on being called for murdered than I would somebody saying that I had a relationship with a trans woman. That's how fucked up it is. That is how fucked up, because that's walking backwards to me. I don't understand what was your purpose

of outing this man? No matter what, if y'all had a relationship and it was business me and transaction, he was giving you money, he was giving him a service. It should have said that that you cannot catch feelings for a trick because at the end of the day, he was a trick. Well, let me ask this, though, do we know that for sure that he was a trick that we we don't know what their conversation is, like a lot of the conversations a public But that's

what I'm saying. This is kind of like a double edged sword for me because if this was a situation where it was a man he had a girlfriend, but you know he had a side piece, right, and she outed him. We wouldn't be having the same conversation because she was a female, right, because she was a feemale,

we wouldn't be having the same conversation. So the double edged sword to me is it's not fair because we don't know what Benzino was saying to Sewn behind closed doors, if they had a relationship, because he said they didn't, But we don't know what those conversations were, and maybe he was saying all the things that she wanted to hear, and it led to they were going to be this out couple and then someone left, and now she's explosing him.

Well with with with what I know about ben Zino and what I've been researching about ben Zino, he was never going to publicly say that he was in a relationship with a trans woman. That is just not that. That would be like Boosey saying he was in an open relationship with a trans woman. It's no, it's not.

It wasn't like that. Um. I don't know if they had that disagreement or something when disgruntled or somebody caught feelings, but whatever the case may be, it puts other trans girls that and other men that want to have relationships on the load with trans women on blast, it's scary, it is, and it is scary because you don't know. And now I get a lot of inboxes from straight men who tell me I'm a little too old for them.

But they tell me flame, because I feel so comfortable with the way you speak, I would like to talk to you. Actually, how can meet the trans girl and trust her? And woo woo, so they could come to me? But they that's because they know I'm not going to out them. I'm not going to share their stories. That is that, that is their feelings. But this is a dangerous game. And then he has went on a rant

back and forth. He made a new rap song about it. Yeah, and he I'm like, you do because you're making yourself look more guilty. And I think he's got some other issues too, because he keeps publicly like trying to embarrass his daughter and like saying things about his daughter like something wrong with that? Man. I'm sorry, Well, that's that's any man at fifty, Because fifty couldn't wait to jump

on top of fifty cent jump right on that. It is, y'all know, fifty is pettier than the pettiest person in the world. Okay, he is the pettiest when it comes to that, But is that why he's not a whole dollar? Is that why the only fifty cent? But he's worth plenty of dollars. But I'm just saying that's the name. Yeah,

But I don't know. I feel like Benzino may have some type of internal demons that he's dealing with, because you can't disrespect your daughter publicly several occasions, you know, put her, put her whole record that she had with Nicki Minaj and Jeopardy, and now you got this whole scandal. But something right with him. It's just not sitting right. Let me ask you a question that's a great point

that you brought up, Lorden. Do you think that he could be because he's an artist and so it's his daughter, do you think there could be a contingency of jealousy there? I think he's very jealous of his daughter, because when you said, it made me what ben Zino song? Have y'all ever played like turn that ben Zino song up? I have never heard anybody say that. I'm old on listen to rap, but he's of your generation at fifty three year rapus. But that's what I'm saying, Like his

music is of his generation. It's no he was around when like NAS was out, and like even him and Stevie J were type once upon a time, and say what you want BOUTEVJ. That man got hits in his talented Look how tight is the question hip? That's my rap. I'm just saying in general, like he's of your generation. And so I think now that his daughter is getting all this notoriety in the music space, he's very jealous of her. That is terrible, jealous of your own kid.

But it's it's giving that by the way, he continuously, like publicly tries to embarrass her. It's very ugly though, the way it's all unfolding. And when I watched him, he was on an interview Friday before I went to Vegas. I was on Thursday night. I was watching with some guy I think he's a comedian, and he was talking to him and he just let Benzino take the floor. And if I never heard the adage of if you

give a nig enough rope, he gonna hang itself. When I tell you, I wanted him to be like, dude, don't talk about it because you are giving way more information than they even asks. Sometimes you just let people go and they're gonna tell her themselves. I don't agree with Shauna Brooks outing him though, I still don't agree with that. I think that that is just like with the situation with Eddie Murphy. You know that girl, that young lady ended up murdered behind that Oh I'm sorry.

They said it was an accidental theft, that she fell off the porch Eddie. I didn't say Eddie Murphy killed anyone. I said that the girl that Eddie got caught with the training years ago. And then the girl ended up deed almost a date a year later to the actual date of when they got caught, because she was talking about writing a book and who woo, and all this was was he picked up on Santa Monica Boulevard, and he said that he thought she was a woman. She

was very passable. He thought that she was a woman. But she was talking about writing the book and outing him, and she was looking for a pay day. She was looking for a pay day, and she was on the sixth floor in her apartment building and they found her at the bottom of on the ground. Did they say her face hit the concrete so hard that her makeup impression was stuck to the concrete. Oh my god. You can research, you can google the story. That's all. It's

all in the truth. Now we on the comedy world, we didn't heard some stories about who it was. They say it wasn't Eddie, but it was somebody close to Eddie. I ain't gonna say no names. He's no longer here. But I'm telling you right now, I don't want to, in the words of T. T J. And I don't want to always keep my head on the swivel when I walk into comedy clubs, when I walk going on the street, because I have put somebody else's life in jeopardy,

stole their livelihood. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that because they could kill my children, they could kill my dogs, they could kill me. It is it is a dangerous game. And since we own the LGBT, because the whole show about the LGBT today, Baby, I'm telling you all right now, y'all know that's the subject that I don't really like to talk about, but this a right here is just we got to talk

about it. So in the news recently there was a story of a person who identified as a trans woman and went to jail and they put her I see, I'm being I'm being professional. They put her in a woman's penitentiary. She can clearly looked like Alfonso ver Biro the first season of Fresh Prince, but they still put her in jail with women. Now she has two women

pregnant and counting and counting. Um. Yeah, I just gotta say that's wild because um and, like I said, another double edged sword situation, because if it were reversed and this individual said I'm trans identify as a woman and they stuck her in the male prison and something happened to her, the prison would be liable. Correct. Well, no,

because now that's what's going to happen. Because the generation Z who love the Holler or hi identify as this, identify as that there are only two things that you can have as a sexual organ, a penis or a vagina. Come up with and whatever you want to come up with, you can identify as a gaddamn truck or airplane or wait a minute, hold on, let me finish the point. Then you can tell me up, you can only have a penis or a vagina. I don't. You could be

the most possible trans woman. You could look be as beautiful as Lauren. And if you have a penis. This is because you shouldn't put a woman, a trans woman as beautiful or as possible as somebody looked like Lauren in prison with the me. And even though they have a penis, because they're going to get abused, they're gonna get used and disrespected, and especially if they are a temid, a timid person now a passible coin trans woman who goes to jail if she gets in trouble on her

own or whether somebody accuses her or something. Even if she doesn't like to have sex with biological women, they're not gonna put her and a woman's penitentiary because of a story like this, because they feel like, okay, she just needed some affection. So you still have a pain. It's the pain is still get hard and you have sex with a woman. It is very scary on that capacity.

And if you're a trans man and you look just like a man, you identify as a man, you got all the man, you had your top surgery done, but you still got your vagina. Imagine them putting that man in a mans penitentiary, you know, and you see what I'm saying, it is that that is what's messed up. That is what So what we got to do now create prisons or jail systems for trans people. I thought

that wings up where they do have wings now? But how did how did New Jersey let this slip and let this do she clearly looks like a full on man go to prison with a bunch of women. Well what was the other options? Send them to the male prison and get abused and if something happened, she ends up dead. I went to the prison, okay, But flying like I'm just saying, they have to look at it from a liability standpoint. If they sent this person who identifies as a woman to the male jail wing whatever,

and something happens to her, who's liable. They sent plenty of men that looked like me and to me and spenitentiary in their raped and their their disrespected, their abuse, they are it is then your is your strength and whatever, because if they want you, they can get to you depend on the capacity or the maximum security of minimum security of the prison. So they don't make a difference because they don't see that. Sometimes they just see a booty. And I know that sounds fucked up to say, but

it's the truth. But I hear you, Lauren. But I'm telling you, Laur, imagine if I was a passive with training. I'm driving down the street. I gotta suspended life and they take me to jail and I'm like, listen, I'm not into two women or whatever, but you know I look like a girl. Please put me with the females. They said, no, you've got a penis, You're going with the men. The men just dogged me and used me so as opposed to that luck about herself, which they

don't have nobody to watch you. But because you still have your penis, they're gonna put you with the me. That was a situation, and that's two women pregnant and counting. I I hear that. I just think that they should have had a separate wing for and they do in a lot of jails. But I'm just saying, like, and Okay, so this is what I want to talk to about

because I want to play that annoying person today. You know, you said, like, you even have a penis and vagina, so what about those people that are born with not Because there are people that are born with not fully a penis or fully a vagina, And there are doctors that basically assign you at birth based on what your reproductive like organs look like. What about those people. I don't know about those people. I don't know none of them.

Because if you especially if you got both, I know, but you're kind of useless because when you're boring it, it it ain't the whole thing is too too too big up a couchie, too smaller a penis. That's kind of useless. Only body want to look they're on a big old coach. I'm just saying, but yeah, no, I don't know about that one long I don't know about that. There's this like I'm just saying, there's like, there's complications to this scenario.

My personal belief is that they should have an lgbt Q wing at these prisons, and maybe that would be a better situation because the simple fact that two of these women are now pregnant. We don't know if these women were raped or what the circumstances were, So I'm just saying it's a sticky situation. Or they should have never put that child in prison with the women. She didn't even she didn't even look like a woman. She

looked I sent you the picture you did. But she identified as a trans famous and that's the problem right there. So now you could just say you I did so a straight at, a thug, a killer from the streets, hardcore, big old muscles and everything, say I identify as a female, and then they put her in jail with the females. Put him in jail. This is what I'm talking about. This is where it gets muddy. Well, yeah, the LGBTQ community is a separate wing. And like I said, most

persons have that. I know one of my co workers went to jail and he's gay when he was younger, and he said, there was literally a gay wing for them. Yeah, they they have that, but they didn't put this person in the gay wing. They put this person with the women.

And this person has two women and counting pregnant. So what I'm saying is when I even when I was on the Brest Slip, when I said what I remember, I said, they put Jesse Smoley in the in the mental ward because the mental world you can't walk yourself to. You really have to be deemed. But like if I was in jail, So if I was in protective custody and say Kendall was a hard course, like damn, I want to get to her, he could just walk to the guard and say I feel I don't feel safe.

I want to walk myself to protective custody. It's as easy as that. So he could get to protect and he would get to me. To get in ward, you have to be deemed kind of special sauce or they're gonna put you in there. But it's it's it's horrible because you don't get a blanket, it's cold. You know, they won't give you anything that you can kill yourself with or hurt yourself. So now that's what I'm saying. So what they that New Jersey has opened up a floodgate,

a plethora your word, a plethora of issues. Is that anybody can say I identify as anything now and get themselves to a place so that that's a smortgage board of pussy. I'm a hard core thug, I identify as a female. You put me I got all the coochie. I won't because you can put me in jail with the women. That is where it gets muddy in That

is what I'm talking about. I don't mean like I wouldn't want somebody to be safe, but y'all keep coming up with these terminologies and all these what you identify as. You can only be born with a stick or stone. Though.

I put the the really feminine trans women by themselves, put the really masculine trans mean by themselves, everybody, just because if you're going to keep them safe, because y'all have made it that if you put the transman and yeah, with a bunch of men and he got a vagina, you know them me ain't gonna get a have their way. They're gonna get their life. If you put a trans woman, not all, but a lot of trans women still use

their penis. If you put them in there with a smogage boy good vagina, especially the stuarts and lesbians and the hard core. I actually think that's a good plan to separate all of them. Well, that's the same thing as sports, Well is it at the same sports? Separate create created for sports. Well they're not doing that yet, so well, they ain't doing it for sports. They damn show ain't gonna do it for jail. Please be illegal.

And we just talked about that Olympic swimmer you know who identifies as a trans woman and was what ranked five something in men and now is ranked number one because you know, there's a lot of testosterone in that body. So we might have to just catch up at the times. Well, good luck with that ship. You brought it up. I know, I mean good luck with us catching up. I told you in that episode we're walking back. We seem to

be going backwards. And what the New Jersey has done for me is put set the LGBT, whether trans community back because now if I do go to jail, whether I'm waiting to be proved innocent or what have you, I'd rather be put by myself. It's gonna be for my safety. But y'all have shown that all I gotta do is say identify something. And you know, if you put me in the jail with an a prison with a bunch of women, I'm not as furred as I used to be. But maybe one out of three ship.

Because but all trainees don't think like me, All trans women don't think like me. But how can you separate the ones that do? You don't know? You don't know, so then if you don't know, then how do you properly address the situation. Now I'm trying to put them back a self everybody has. But then that that requires more guards because somebody has to be able to watch the person that's by them. Said, I could be opening a whole other candrams because of the guards can be

messing with trans women. Now, well, that could because guards have sex with themate. They do is no male and female guards have looking in back in Jersey again? Was that Jersey of New York where three women were pregnant by one guard at what at the same time he was fertile? Do you want to bring Yeah, please bring in some flame mess honey, because I had a great flame man today. Her name is Christy girladd is she on here? I can't see that? Uh yeah, uh huh

because you know I can't see no name. Can you'll see us? I couldn't get five G either, because you know five G want to let you go? Um look, hi, Cassie cast Hello, where are you? I don't know? Bringing in goodnat some new people in tone. We're bringing in somebody new, cass We want you to break me. Oh it goes with the topic we're discussing, how right? Okay, I guess you' in here Okay, if you turn some light on, we can see you. Girl, turn some light on. All I see is hair in our brows. The brows

look lovely. Though. Oh my gosh, I'm coming on here a second high, Cassie, Come on, Cassie, jump in. I want to jump in because I agree with what you said number one, when you say you either have a wave cave right, and I I agree that there should be a separate weight. We shouldn't have the cater like if you if you still you can identify as a trans woman but be attracted to women and still have your your parts that you was born with. And so look you, well it's still it's still a biological female.

You're still so in that instance, of course you might. And then in the comments short and fancy Felicia was saying that that specific inmate was already housed with the men, sued and the A C. L. Sue that stand in New Jersey on his beak, and then he was housed with the women, and so he already hug was on

both sides. And so I just feel like, if you, if you identify as a trans woman and you were able to get your what's called the s R s Then I say, great, you can go with the women that are all women women, But if you still have those parts and you're attracted to women, then you're gonna act on those well. And Cassie, I hear your point, but you might say I'm not attracted to women, will really still be attracted to women, So you can't go on there. If you got your junk they need. And

you heard me stay on the brexat club. I would rather than put me with a wing of bitches that looked like me. Shoot me in my head. I would not want to stay with a bunch of trans women because I know that I know the mess I know the drama. Wait a minute, so you just saying to trans women, but it was me. If it was me, don't put me, put me with the fellas. Put me. I know how to handle myself. This mouth don't stop.

I know, but I'm just saying, lo, I would not want to be with a bunch of trans women because I know how messy it would be. I know how this ground, and I know bunch of trains women that look beautiful, presentation them bitches. Hygiene is terrible, okay, But playing devil's advocate, somebody else who looks like you could say the same thing, and you're gonna end up with the men and had the same problem. You can't have everybody. Don't have my DNA and my mouthpiece. That's what I'm saying.

That's very true. But I'm just saying if if somebody else came behind you and staid the exact same thing, we're gonna have the exact same problem. Or then they put up put all the bitches together, so that meaning you've been not getting no trouble, you're gonna be with a bunch of queens. Good god having Veronica. I like what you said, though, if you still have your parts, you need to be with the people that have the same parts. Period. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on time in Veronica, Okay.

I mean yeah, the thing with the prison that is like, that's that's a that's a whole kind of words. But like you said, when you compared to actual sports, now sports for sure, I just like look separate, like if you were born or whatever he said, you're assigned. That's where you need to be because I don't see a bunch of trams women trying to be in the sports

with men. There's a reason for that. Because they know they're gonna get their asked to up right, So it's like, okay, um, I mean transparan, excuse me, try to be with the men. So it's like okay, now it's there's like tramp. There's men who are not doing well in the Olympics and they won't go over to the women's sports. That's what I saw with that whole swim me just after what two years are just like okay, yeah, one year she was on one year, one year, one year, and I'm

just like, are we really doing this? And as a trans person, and as a transperson who took promos for many years, honestly, the breakdown should be a minimum of ten years, honestly because realistically that's how long it takes for esrogen to break down so much test topks a

on in the mail body. It takes about seven to ten years for you to feel the effects of honestly, with the horn, with the hips and the boobs and the skin and the weakness break a muscle mass down, it takes about seven to ten years, depending on how dedicated you are to your hormone therapy. One year you're still the same ignorant tank that you was a year before. You are still but not in it, but you're still a tank that you was. You still that same player.

And I'm saying that because I've taken hormones for many of me. You ain't taking hormones and years, But when I was young, I took hormones for years. It took years and years and years to break down the muscle mass, to feminize my shoulders and to make my skin glow and make me not as strong as the next. Uh man, So yeah, I get what that where they're at with that, but one year was definitely not enough time. One year, I'm still the strongest, can do it here, full on man.

One year was nothing. It don't even have an effect on you. So that that's interesting to Um, that's a good that's a good point because I didn't know it took that long, um, and the effects that And also how's that cannot translate to putting someone in jail or in prison? You know, like, how do you how does that?

How do you separate that? Because it's like you can't you can't go Cassie, if you still have your parts, you go with the people to have the same parts where you are, whether you identify if you still have these parts, I'm sorry. You got to be with the saying and it's bad or it can't be bad because of the dynamics of what's going on in the prison. But either gonna be go I don't know, go all the way or go halfway. You're gonna be with the same. Well,

what's so crazy about that, now, Cassie. Because I went to prison back in they didn't have the separation wings because it was not a lot of trains people in jail at that time, not where I was at in Illinois. But after that, maybe five or six years after that, so many trains girls started going to jail for whatever they were doing, and they created whole wings of trains and gaze altogether. They would put them all together. But the easy the part was all you had to say

as a man, was I feel threatened. I want to be put in the protective custody because that's what they call the gay wing PC, protective custody. And you could just walk yourself over there. So you can have a smortgage board of trainees, you can have a smortgage board. Gave me what is for them to stop them now from saying I look like Mike Tyson. I'm hard core. I'm a thug, but I feel gay and I want

to be put in the gay wing. And then you just over there and you can bust heads and do whatever you wanna do, because, let me tell you the truth of it is, when you're in the gay wing or in the in the trans wing, the gods don't give a funk about you, and they will let anything and everything happened to you because they don't they don't agree with your lifestyle. See, they need to get guards.

Then the here goes a whole another issue. You have to get gods that are LGBT friendly, lgbt Q friendly, because they'll say, yeah, we're gonna put you over there. I want you to get that when I don't like that one. And queens are known to have smart mouths. We talk ship to everybody. But then you get these guys over there, so I want you to bust that bitch here. I want her to disappear. You don't understand some of these guys are very low down. They need

to really separate it because it's fucked up. This situation. It's way more scary than we I'm joking about it, but it's gonna cause a lot of detriment to the younger people that's coming up behind us that may get in jail trouble and go to jail. It's sucked up. So it's kind of like like when they do the hiring process, it's like almost you specialized in securing this demographic of people. That's what You're right, That's right. What we were saying about the police were about refunding, or

not defunding, but reforming. The police. Put people in communities that they are used to, so they're gay guards, they're LGBT. Put them over there so at least they can communicate and they will understand, you know what I mean. Don't they have like psych evaluation zo when people come in like as a part of your girl. But if you if you're my auntie and I need a job, and you can say I want my my needs to work here, on my nephew to work here, it's as easy as

that get me in. Yeah. I get that part. But I'm saying, like on the flip side, just like there's a psych ward. Don't they have psycho vales when people come in and if they say that I identify as trends I thought that like psychle vals happened to confine them for your place. Yes, some prisons do. But you can beat the tests. You can beat that tests. It's kind of like it's kind of like the truth telling tests what they call it. Like, you can beat that test.

You can say you can be oh, you can say, oh, identify as lesbian, and they put you with with the with the women, I mean with the you know, with the lesbian women. It's whatever you want to say, because that's what we have made it now. Generation See, I'm a I'm a truck, but I identify as a bus. You know what. It's just fucking ridiculous to me have a track record. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, but what have I been living as for the last

three or four years? But who's gonna prove that? And when you're arrested, nobody has time for you to prove that. Nobody's gonna research that. If you're arrested, they're gonna just arrest you. And when they take your clothes off, because everyone must be strip search, they're gonna see exactly what

you have between your legs. It's up to it's most of the time, it's up to their discretion, and if you ruled and disgrunted, they're going to make sure that you are put with whatever you have between your legs. I don't can't how beautiful you are, you can be a beautiful YouTube ladies, they're gonna still and you have penises, They're gonna put you with the men because it depends on what kind of day that officer, the arresting officer,

or whoever is in lock up is having. They I don't like trains, I don't like gays, so I'm gonna put you with me. I'm telling you, they should have never done that in New Jersey. I found so much fault in that because it's sucked up. So now the wings situation, I'm sorry, no, oh, like the whole wings. This is where the wing situation is vital because they do phones in that category. This is where I know you said it depends on the officer and it's gonna

be crooked people no matter what. But when you said they have wings, now, so it's like someone who can't have time to prove that they've been doing this for years or whatever. They still have their their their penis, for example, will they still be able to go into the wings if they requested, that's my question. I don't know, like the train, will they still be able to go with the men or with all the gays? Now the wing is it for trans engages everybody in lgbt Q. Yeah,

it's all. Yeah, they don't separate the lgbt If you probably up under that umbrella, then you all except that's your last being because you're still a woman, so they put your last beings with the women. Okay, so let's say I they don't know my history. Um, I'm I'm trans woman, right, but I still I haven't had the operations. Okay that and I'm just like, okay, I will not be good in this area. You know, I've been doing it for two years at this point, I'm still kind

of strong, kind of the gray area. I'll just request to be put over in that wing. And you said there's still a flaw in that. Let's say people can still take advantage of that, but we still kind of need the wing at the same time. Now, oh yeah, I'm not I'm not saying do away with the wing. I'm saying do away with how easily it is for people to get to on the wing. If you if you're not clearly gay or or identify as clearly as trans. Because this guy, so, this girl that they had in

New Jersey did not like a trans woman. I know trans women, I know the good ones, the bad ones, the ones that don't look possible. This thing looked like full long Alfonso Robero with some asshot on to something he identified as trans. They put him in jail with the women and that two women pregnant or you were saying taking a step further and actually just have a trans wing for trans meant and trans women, yes, or

have a wing for that. But that costs more money. Yeah, Well, the prisons get enough money so they could probably do it. But that's money day slavery too. So they said they have the money, but do they want to invest the money in that. Those are the state prisons that are closed. The private prisons the investor day never closed, and they make so much money a day, it's ridiculous. They have like wings if they could. So, yeah, because the privatized prison,

that's that's what has happened to the prison system. It's already sucked up to being prisoned, but the privatization of prisons, these people and all the people who you think of. So many big wigs in in government have so much money invested in privacy prisons, and I'm making money ridiculous. You know who taught me that this happen right here? And honestly, privatized prisons are actually more I would say, there's more of them than you know, like the state

and local prisons. There's more privatized prisons popping up every day. So it's it's a Luca, it's not. It's modernay slavery, That's what it is. So every time there's a body in a bed, somebody's getting paycheck. So but the but the greatness the gray area to me is, yeah, we all know we got a penis of a giant, even with Lawrence point you're born and sometimes their doctors don't know.

But what's messed up is that they are some very passable trans women and transmen in the world that looked like me and and that looked like fucking women that you would never know. Can we talk about that though, really quickly, because a lot of them are beautiful. Ashley is and it is the guy girl, but so could you imagine them putting late asty in a man's penitentiary

and somebody see that agina. Good God, the prison would be they would kick him out, just like they kicked me out, because the prison would be in an uproar. It would be. He looks completely like a man, a fine, good looking at a Latino man. But you got a vagina, you shower with everybody If they see that couchy, oh honey, all bets off. So what I'm saying is that you can't just keep saying that or I identified this, so I feel like this is so this is where you

put me. I'm with you can see. I don't give a funk compauty for you all. If you got this, you go on with the man, even if it's a separate wing. But you're still going to a man's part of the prison. If you got a flat, you're going with the women. I don't care if you look like the biggest butch Michael Jordan with a vagina, you still go on with the women because you biologically a woman. Just because you talk about flats and drugs, chick. I'm sorry,

it's always making jokes over here, y'all. Sorry, she's talking about you. Sorry, Sorry, go ahead. I was just saying, there's there's really little no room for pceness in prison. Let's just say that. So we're just talking about the safety um like saying that's that the notes and nothing boltes of it, like safety have a specialized wing. Still keep the wing, but in the men's presence instead of women's prison. Because you said these things could happened, like

people could say whatever, do whatever. Oh hear me when I tell you the women the women in prison. Oh don't please, don't get that twisted. I was I went women's prison or jail. You went on scared straight girl. It was like a scared stray. I had had stole something from you know, child time in the last time I've ever been arrested or detained whatever one call it. And part of the program. Since I was the eighteen, They're like, okay, you go to this program and we'll

you know, seal your record. I'm like, okay, cool. So I get there. I have sold scrunches and support prins and some something small ship. I was with a group that girls that stole like a car. I'm like this a bit, but okay. So they took this to the women's prison and were walking through the hall like the quad or whatever. And you hear boom boom, I'm gonna get your ass. Which you getting this morningfucker. I'm like, I'm hearing things. But I'm just like, I don't think

they're happy we're here. So we a line of us girls then lined up against the wall, and then like they just bring in the prisoners and they they brought as hell. I'm just like, oh, like ones like twice my size. I'm just like, man, I would get my ass whooped up in here. Maybe I don't know, but yeah, it's um. It was. But imagine somebody seventeen years old had never been in any kind of trouble and going to a situation like that. I'm glad it scared you straight.

I'm glad. I wish we had scared straight still around today. I don't know about this generation Z. They're crazy for real. I was a good TV show. Though there was a good TV show, it wouldn't have scared me straight. I wouldn't win and got in trouble just to be inj ship. I think that's right. Here has said a precedent, though, So now anyone who's saying, well, I identified like this, this has said a precedent, because now you allow this person who identifies as a woman. But somebody calling you

Cassie m hm, connection bad. Um. But I think that it's a good point that we need to basically catch up with the times, is what I would say. We need to catch up with the times because I want to ask you a question, because you've been watching and following the story. What do you think about ben Zino and the trans woman outing him? Oh? I haven't following the story. Um, well there's a trans out of ben Zino. I've seen these outing stories before. Um, now she was

out of him. Did you say why? I want a little bit of a if they're just just out in him, just because well, she was tired of being on that relations whatever to up allegedly whatever relationship they had on the low. She said she was tired of that. She wanted it to be public. Oh okay, honestly that that

that should have been behind close doors. I'm not a fan of business or whatever, but at the end of the day, if this is something where you're not getting what you want to relationship, just leave like this whole outing first, you're outing him out of him for what you identify as a woman. So why would now you want to jump over to outing somebody unless he's been hurting, transluting verbally or otherwise. That's the only thing I would say.

You know, good carmer. But I love that. I love exactly what you just said, because I always say a trans woman is a trans woman, a trans man is a trans man, a woman is a woman, and a man is a man. But we wanted to be fair across the board. So I'm with you. How you outing me if I if I identify myself as a woman, I want to be called he she heart and hers um and and Shanna looks pretty much like a woman, you know. But so now, what are you what are you expecting to gain from this? What are you what

are you getting from this? Huh oh, I'm sorry now I was being facetious, but yeah, it's like really nothing that because anyway, like hip hop or just even especially in the black community amongst men in general, you know, very homophobic, and he's in hip hop, so it's kind of like this will be the perfect place to feminize him or make up seem gay. That's what they're trying to do with the whole outing thing, you know. So it's kind of like, okay, well, if you mess with

a trans woman, you you just gay. But some I'm trying to hang on to, like the straight male privilege by you know, with the whole Oh, I'm just attracted to a certain type of woman. Like Okay, let's not repackage it. You don't have to call yourself gay, but your damn strange straight. I'm sorry, just like if I'm mena please say that again. Okay, Okay, we won't. You have to be called gay, but your damn sure ain't straight.

Because they are already beautiful women in the world. I've talked about this many, many times, all that I'm beautiful women. She I fell in love with her soul, her spirit. Yeah, nigger, say that to somebody who ain't been with me, who know what they like. There are beautiful women yourself, Lauren Hogan, already created in the world, already for a package, vagina, baby having and everything. What you like, player is what you don't want nobody to know that you like. That's

the problem I have. But on the flip side, just what you said, stop running around here, Holland you identify as a woman. I'm a woman. You can't tell me. I feel just like a woman being treat yourself like a woman, and don't try to put these men on black women that cheat and calling me as wise. When a woman dragged, I asked, you know, I'm gonna call your wife and tell your wife that you've been sleeping with me. It's not as embarrassing as when they hear

that you've been with a trans woman. Because that is what the trans community, to me, have done. It wasn't just straight people who did that. We did that because we made too much separation. Damnit, if I'm a trans woman and you attract the trans woman, then I'm falling up under that criteria. If you like women, then you like women. If you bisexual, then damnit you like both. That's fine too. You have to come to grips with it. We made the separation. We made this ship difficult alone

from the LGBT community. I know they're gonna bite my head off of that, but we made it. We made this differ. We made this difficult because, like I said before, people will organically come to you and sometimes you just don't jail. I know how many straight people I know that don't like each other, same nationality, neighbor, same family, So I can't expect you who has never been introduced to me and my lifestyle, my presentation for you to

just say, oh, come on there, you're my friend. Sometimes it takes time, sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn't. But I can't come in and say, oh, you're gonna see me because I'm trained, I'm LGBT, you're gonna respect me. It doesn't work like that. You don't have to force it. It has to be and everybody don't get down with it. And I'm not saying that it's a good thing or a bad thing, but I can't make you take in

something that you don't want to. It would be like me dying have blind and she don't want to be blind. Oh I want you to be blind. I don't want to be blind. And that's the choice that you have. I don't want to do that. That's not saying that I'm gonna hurt you, or that I wish you ill harm or anything. It's just saying that that that's not my get down And I understand you over there, and I'm gonna stay over here and we're gonna be cool. Okay. I think I kind of get what you're saying now.

So you're basically saying that it's one Obviously that was nobody's business for Shawna to do. That's right front, But more so if Benzino wasn't comfortable with it, it's not okay to force something on somebody because it's not gonna land. Well, basically, your story is not my story. Yeah, I started out as a secret. And if you got tired of it, because I don't think he didn't, getn't start off public. So I think that was early on where this is gonna be on that. And and let me be very

clear about who Shauna Brooks is. Shawna Brooks is an escort. Let me say that one more time. Shauna Brooks is an escort. So I'm sure and she's that's a heart word. She said this publicly many times before. She I'm sure it was a business transaction. Again, I'm gonna go back to this Netflix two thousand nineteen with Flaming Row. You cannot catch feelings for a trick. You cannot catch feelings for a trick. That was a trick. I'm sure that

was money transaction there. Because of her track record, she has publicly put out that she was an escort flying over to Uh, what's the country where I told you I wanted to go, but I can't go because I'm trans. Goodbye, and all that internal tricks and that she publicly put all that on her platform, all that was up, So I'm not telling y'all nothing publicly that she hasn't told y'all publicly, and she is possible. So she got through.

But now you're tricking with somebody and maybe you kind of feelings for him, maybe you wanted him to be with you on your birthday, who has a whole family, a whole career, and who has put out his platform that he's not with the gay ship. He don't get down like that, but on the low he doing his thing.

That was not your just that was not your position to tell his story, which is why when they keep talking about and this is really gonna get my head beat, y'all come on with it, because I'm ready to buy back today and I ain't even had edible when they keep holling so many trans women of color are being murdered a lot of times. You put your hand in the lion's mouth. Do you think that lion not gonna bite you? M What part did you play in your demands?

One more time. What part did you play in your demise because you cannot out these men and don't think that this is gonna be consequences of repercussions. Didn't Murphy said that in life if you come up and with my corporators, gonna be consequences of repercussions. Some of you, bitch is better lead that Cordborat alone. Well, I don't think he's even just in the trans community. That's issues with you know, individuals who are hetero sexual. Mean, we can even take it to looking at you know some

of these crazy women that are fatal attraction. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, and that's with hetero sexual relationships too. It's it's on both sides. So I just don't agree with the outing because what it does for me is me and who are attracted to trans women. It's a natural um attraction. They keep it on the quiet, but they watched transforms secretly. They try to get up in trans girls inboxes secretly and quietly, hoping that you won't put them on blast, because that is an itch

that needs to be scratched. The scary part now is that when I scratched this itch, so I know that you won't tell my story. I'm gonna kill you after we have sex. I really hope that doesn't become the case. Well, I've been in that reason I speaking about that because

I've been in that situation. I'm not gonna say the name on here, but I was in a situation like that many many years ago, where there was a guy that used to trick with me, famous guy and would pay me for what he wanted, and um, after the fact, the guilt after he after he busted, after he relieved himselves, his guilt consumed him to where he wanted to hurt me, like physically when he experienced At one time, I was like, damn you tripping. But the second time it put me

on high alert. So I brought my pistol with me, and when he went crazy and he would have hurt me, this time, I felt that when I put that pistol on his ass, he backed up. I've never seen that guy again, not privately, But this is what I'm saying. So many of these guys hard for these demons because as black people, you know, as and I can't speak for no other community but the black community. In a black house, it is, it is easier for you to

say you're fucking ax murder or a serial rapist. For then you to say you're gay, especially or trains, it is like the family cringes. It's it's I'm telling you she has opened up a can of worms that it's going to be dangerous. And I just like hearing all that and registering what you're saying. They're really there really needs to be because it's on the onness of the person. Nobody's making you a murderer, that's you making the decision,

being triggered by your enter demons. And I think, as I used the term community loosely, but just as black people, ill just say that we do need to. Our part would be to foster an environment that doesn't keep protecting the family petals, but actually those men or those community, especially the youth, where it's okay, like, hey, this is

what you're into. You can't you're not technically not straight man the more, but that's okay, you don't fall into that category because there are those who are trying to keep that's straight you know, privilege, so they won't be ostracized or putting this category. And that's they're just they're so scared of what the repercussions are if I were to admit I'm into this. So therefore I'm gonna you know, that's part of me that feels shamed because of what

I've filtered in, you know, from around me. What it what it looks like. So and listen, and let's clarify. It's not all black households. I've got plenty of gay friends and their parents and family members love them to death, So it's not all black households. But I tear that point to to what you're saying. But I'm just saying in retrospect that when it comes to matters of the heart, they can turn into a fatal attraction situation very quickly. It can, Yeah, it can, as far as it can.

That's true. It happens in different dynamics. I'm just talking specifically about black men who want to do you know, trans women on the low and feel shaky even just with themselves to a point where they will trigger violence because it already already happens to Black women domestically. We are homicides or what homogeneous racial group, and that's just took to women. We don't got the penis and we're getting killed at twice the rate, so talk about it.

So we we ain't got the power to really help trans Limen that some some be are telling us to do. They're like, tell your husband to stop killing us, We'll tell them to stop killing us. And to that point, And I love what you just said right there because to that point and this translors, I love my trans sustors. But here's the thing. Just like the men have a choice on whether they want to go with you and do whatever they want to do with you, you have the option of saying I don't trust you, I'm not

comfortable with you. But a lot of times because their celebrity or they fan, Oh this is a trade, because that's the word trade. It's a man will woo you go with them, thinking that you're gonna change their mind, you're gonna change their outlook. You forget that this man got a whole wife, the whole relationship, a whole career. He's willing to run risk that busting up with you. But he damn shall ain't willing to risk that to take you to the office party. He ain't gonna take

you to the family barbecue. It's a rarity that that happens that's not to say that it does not happen, but it's so rare. I can't even think of the last thirty years that I know a queen who the family has accepted her as part of the family, his wife, his woman without somebody getting angry. So that, well, you still sucking around with that that thing that ain't no woman, that's the man. I'm telling you. It is fucked up on all capacities right now, Hi, Jan, keep your head

on the swevel. They're busting heads right now. Slap I owe you will. Girl'll make me. She got a shotgun. I ain gonna slap crazy. My party position is just the real question. What were doing today? High tech? Jan? Hey mare? Oh my god? I mean you guys are cutting up to that love the subjects love you hear me. You know I'm a fruit fly anyway, so you come on fru fly me too. Me's like, I can't get

enough for what you are talking about. Really, But you know what, I'm never I'm never for anybody outing anybody for anything. If you were with me and I stole something out of the store, don't out me. The whole connotation behind the word outing is not good. I'm not going to out myself for all the men that I've been with. I just so I don't know how we thought any of this or how Shana thought this was

gonna be okay, because he made some promises. That ain't the first relationship you've been in to go sour, and it's not gonna be the last thing. And you know a man will promise you the whole world to get to get to that sweet spot, and once he got what he needs, tell you dead roses. I think I came up with the theme for this careful who you do dirt with? Be careful? Who? Be careful? Who promised your rose garden? And get your ass a bunch of weeds?

That's what you better. Because y'all women, y'all have vaginas. Y'all know a man would tell you anything to get to that honeypot. You know this, And the same thing with a transor, especially if your presentation it's feminine and female. You're gonna tell you what you want to hear you beautiful, you sexy. I want to be with you. I'm gonna get what I need, but then I'm going home to my wife. But I ain't gonna tell you that I'm gonna tell you are we're gonna be in a relationship.

I'm gonna leave huff for you. It's the same thing on this side as a trans woman. They tell you the same ship to get what they want. They want to get you'all coolchi they want to get out booty. I'm just saying ship or something or yeah, it's it's what it is. What it does for me though. As for the young trans women are coming up, and a lot of trans women, myself included, starts out, especially if you come from a poorhouseholder, you don't come from any

kind of meat ends. You don't know what else to do. Sometimes you start off in the sex industry. You start off where as the sex workers. Some people stay in and some people get out of it. But you're putting yourself in a position to where you want to hear whatever you want to hear. You want to get the money people are using you. They'll tell you anything to

get what they need. We're the same as in some capacity, trans women are the same as women that work in the sex industry because they're gonna tell you whatever you need to hear to get what they want, and that's that's it. But all that I'm gonna tell your wife and all that ship because I watched Fatal Attraction just last week when he swims, I watched Fatal Attraction and for my Man every day. Oh, if y'all don't watch Fan of Attraction for my Man, watch it it comes

on TV one. Are you talking about that one? I'm talking about the one with going close, way back with that one with the crazy white bitch that I'm gonna tear your wife and that scared me and so much and it um it made me a lot of me. I don't even say they stop cheating. They just got slicker with it. But it is a bunch of crazy people out here. And I don't want to say that Shawna Brooks is crazy, but here's I don't know, because I don't know the nature or the situation of their relationship.

But damn it, some things that just not to be told. It's just not to be told. You. Yeah, if she wanted what she had grown accustomed to with him, believe me, it's over now well and and she's gonna scare the ship out the next one that made him wanted to be with her, because I mean, he gonna feel like, oh, I can't funk with you. You're gonna put my business in the street. I agree with that. And honestly, if it was came down to that, and like I said,

this was all allegedly, ben Zino is denying everything. But you know, if it was a conversation and he said no, for you to go and out, the man is just And fifty is having a field there with videos and oh my god, Pitty seems to be very obsessed with me who get caught with trans women. Let me just say that one more time. Fifty seems to be very obsessed with men who get in the rap game or in the hip hop game. Be careful, you know, next thing he gonna start making means about you. Fifty don't

want this mouth. Fifty got more money than me, but fifty ain't got more tenacy than me. He just think he good. I say everything people can say it about him, But he seems to be obsessed with hip hop men who get caught with other trans women. He just you know, we say bing bings, oh bands or whatever. It's definitely you know, he has always turned me off, even when he was on Love in hip Hop. Oh he was, Yeah, Atlanta, he's last me off. But fifty is another one that's

not wrapped too tight, you know what I mean? And and and and and it's it's room at the therapist for all. I'm just saying, you know, realize it and go, not you believing the therapist. Wait a minute, you know, it's room at the therapist office to take for all of them to go. You know what I mean? Because fifty read a woman you know, just for ships and grins, and he didn't do it. He didn't do that to Chelsea handle. Let me make that very clear. He tried,

but he failed. He tried. No, he was all goshing over her. She right, because she said, pay your taxes. I'll pay your taxes. We're talking about your community. So you know, it is what it is. But you know, with the original subject, you know, you him on business telling nobody's secrets. Don't tell my business, you know what? Um uh. Some men I've been with and I've been most embarrassed about it before i even got out the door. So with that being said, you know, you know the door.

And I'm sure there are celebrities and they are famous me and athletes whatever, they would love to have an open relationship with trans women. If that is there, get down. But because society has deemed that taboo, it's just not happening like that. It's just not happening. And that's not to say that it's not happening, but it's not happening like we want, like we would want it to happen. So with her whole statement that she put out, I'm

tired of being on the back burning. I get that if the other person was wanted to be in a relationship like that openly, but he didn't and that was not your place to tell that story. I'm telling you that is scary as hell. That's a catch twenty two. Like you wouldn't believe Janny your words. Keep your head on the swivel. You better keep on head on one.

They're from that world. And even though he's has been by far, uh I mean, but it sounded so cold damn that he probably he probably enjoys keeping or trying to keep one foot in the streets with a certain elements. So she'd better keep her head on the swivel. And that's by the reason why he's always fighting with his daughter, because it keeps him in you know, bro up the news. Yeah, because don't nobody know nothing about him. I mean, they just really don't, you know. I mean, and he's got

the Napoleon complex too. He looked like he all of about five too, you know what I mean. He has no neck right like, like, so you want I want to say something so bad, but bad girl, I'm not gonna say it. I am not gonna say it because oh, I just want to say. And he's with Shawna Brooks and she has not had an s R S. He ain't got no nick and he about five too. But I wonder what the skills is like, Okay, oh yeah,

what it all mean? I don't know. Usually when you come up sort you gotta make it up with other ways. But I'm saying, oh, I've seen that, I've seen the pictures on the internet. I ain't even talk about his penis. I'm talking about his head game because he damned showing a coucci. Let me say that, because she ain't got one. Well, on that note, thank you, guys, We appreciate you us for coming on. Thank you, Thank you ladies and gentlemen. Live Love Lounge is going to be on July fourteenth,

which is my actual birthday. At the DC Comedy Love. Get your tickets at the DC Comedy Loft website, which is also called beer baron b I E R baron Um July fourteen, fifteen six seen that I'm doing comedy shows. We're doing a Lave Love lounge, just my birthday. We don't have a good week, ly, aren't you doing something, mate, I'm doing something. I'm doing May second, I'm doing Netflix is a joke. I gotta tell you about that too. Netflix is a joke. But it's sold out. It's completely

sold out. The whole show is about me, and so that okay. Well that yeah, May second at the lab at Um at the Improv seven pm, and they're trying to add an MPM show because the first one is sold out. Well, Netflix is joke, is having the whole festival that whole week, everybody, said Amy Shooman, Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, Cat Wins. So many people having shows everywhere throughout the city, Lily Tomlin, just so many people. So yeah, I'm on Monday night at the Improv, but we're looking

to try to get something else, hopefully. I don't even know other days to tell y'all, ship tell you next week going at I don't know, but I do want to tell you guys, thank you guys for joining us. Here left, I'm glad to have my Lorie Jogi back and mis Sky Scott must be hungry because she're we're winning. Um what no, I just heard it for the first time. Thank thank you guys for joining us. I will be doing Loveland sometime tonight. I'm back home from Vegas. I'm glad.

Thank you Kendo. Uh yeah. You can follow me on Instagram at mon Row Flame and on on YouTube at Flame Monrow, don't follow the other one. Don't follow elon Musk's page. Um, and you can follow me on Instagram at Lauren or money h or on YouTube which is just Lauren again. So thank you all. We appreciate you is always for tuning in and we will see you guys next week. And Laughing Learned, we're hitting what oh we normally do that before we plug the socials. So

you threw you threw me on. We still gotta do it, okay. Well here at Laugh and Learn, we have a saying We're not trying to get anybody to change your mind. We're simply trying to get you to use your mind because why you gotta keep your mouth ship, and they'll be out and people telling me every business because that's because on laughing. Then you have to have a mind. And thank you to um Christie. This morning we got

a new flame at Lauren. She was so great. She's on the lab you'll see it, and she was wonderful. She works for ABC News in in uh Tooled, Ohio, and she says she's a flame man. She's a follower. She watches, she listens to everything. She was really great. So thank you to our new flame man, and I appreciate you. Guys. Please be careful and to my transistors, I'm not against you. I am against the bullshit in

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