God I'm Sorry with Kisha Grandy

You think you want to revisit, so your first like a listen Jill. Folks like you slip all folks that we dig it hain't no kids do what you doin no kiss do what you do. Can't no kids do what I do. No good morning, good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Got something good somewhere good somebody because good Flame, My road is here with Lauren the Diva. Nick Smith will be joining us shortly. Welcome to laugh and learned. We know we're a little bit late. Lauren had changed

the password. No, no, I didn't, Y'll Flame changed the password and could remember it. She said it was one to night. She was with God. I was with God. He was sitting right over down the corner and talk to the mother to nig he went and exactly, So we got to start the show because I just found some new information out. What happened this morning is that good, good afternoon. Every one. Hello, I don't let you talking about welcome ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. We want to

thank wonderful cameraman Kendall and our fabulous producer Triple. Thank you guys for joining us. We have a very special guest coming up soon. So this morning, what happened was I went to the grocery store because I made chili and I had to go get the chili fixes. And there was a lady who was quite disturbed in the grocery store. That's why I'm gonna call her disturbed in the grocery store this one. And she physically attacked me. We were standing in line, black woman and she was

black ya. She was nap mind you, she was nampolar crazy when I tell you, if the cats was in the ali running through her brains. And so she didn't have the money to pay for her stuff, and so she was like, well, let the manager pay for when I'm a customer, let him pay for and the cash. She was like, what, we don't do that, and so I snickered like and she turned around and read me, honey, what the hell are you laughing at? What are you? I don't even know what you are when I tell you.

I read that woman from upside down to backwards and sideways. And she got up in my face and she got in my personal space and she started going on her and she started going in her bag and she was gonna do something. I wasn't afraid of what was in her bag, but the the the offensive smell that was coming out of her mouth made me push that woman. I pushed that woman down on the ground. Oh yeah, the police probably looking for me. So if I go to jail for assault, I wasn't assaulted. I was attacked

by her breath, she said. I told her. She said, I'm not ugly, I'm beautiful. I said, girl, don't nobody think you beautiful? And you ugly and you're crazy? And she said, you assaulted me. I said, your breath took three years off my life, bitch, and baby, the police having everything, but you know I'm good and clean. Something welcome to that's how we do. Listen, coming up September six in Chicago, the greatest white party ever had. We're gonna have the best time. We're taken it back o

school Chicago like we used to do it. The tickets sales will be up tomorrow on event Bright Lawren just diet very hooked everything up. The flyer will be ready tomorrow. It's first comes first, sir, thirty dollars a piece. That place only holds three hundred fifty dollars. So if you don't get your ticket, please on starte coming time flame. I've been knowing you since. Did you know that those

tinkers was gonna sale yesterday? People? Yeah, he said three fifty dollars tickets out thirty dollars each, but it's three hundred. It holds three hundred and fifty. Now we might be able to stretch it a little bit, but if y'all settle it out, they already made the offer of two shows. Hint, hints. Okay, now the next day, Hi, Lauren, how was your week? Um week? It's actually been two weeks since we did the show. Did you realize that we had a little

time off? But my week has been good, but you know, work has been crazy, and where's the rest of the makeup, make up. This is my ruby boom um. No, but this week is gonna be crazy. Actually, as soon as we finished the show, I'm going to the airport. So it's gonna be one of those weeks. Are you going the whole week? Work work, work, work, work work the roles Virginia next Saday, come to a Soldia show for with you at Poor Girls with Jennifer Warner. Let's bring

NICKI in. Um. Nick is on vacation for two weeks. Yeah. Oh and I just got an email for you too. You might be head to Memphis, Tennessee if the check looks right. Yeah, I saw that. I sent them straight to you. Yeah, so you might be going to Memphis, Tennessee to if the check looks right. Hello, we shall see Hello Nick Smith? Hello, Hello, can you see me? Okay, we can see you? Just fine? Okay, good? How are you? I'm not chopping it off again? There, I'm doing all right.

So Lauren, you're headed out of town again? Uh? Once again? Yes, I am on the road again. You're excited about it or you're like Nick, I'm just over you know, I used to travel like seven pre print pre pandemic is a part of my job, and like I enjoyed it and and I started to hate it. So sitting still for a year was great. But now getting back into it, I'm like, whoa, I didn't really miss this that much because you know, I used to come home for twenty

four hours just to sleep in my bed. I was just telling Trouble this in Kendall, like I wanted my bed that badly because I was gone so much. So, the fact that things are starting to turn back into that, I'm not very excited about it. But I gotta keep my status on Delta. Who's in there? Who's in the be with you? Though? It's the question um des me

minding my business anyway. But I'm going to New Orleans tonight and then I'll be there till Thursday, and then I'm going to Atlanta and then I'll be able to come back home. So I'll be gone for about a week. Where are you, Mrs Smith? Because you're not home? Where are you? Right? You was traveling to where'd you go? Uh? First, I'm not on vacation plane. You know. You keep saying that I work. Ever I know where you don't work. See how the internet stops you from telling that line.

You see how God he is. You see how God interrupted that line. You got to repeat, iculous repeat that you hadn't win, you hadn't win. Yes, i am in Provincetown, Massachusetts. So I'm still here in Peatown and I am working from here, so I've not taken any time off, but I am. I am working. I'm just working from here. So that's it. It's super hot right now in Arkansas. Unfortunately, because of the pandemic, we've had the ability to work remotely and uh we use green screen now, which also

helps for this show. So it's all like really kind of working together. Arkansas is on fire for a couple of reasons. Arkansas and numbers for the pandemic is really really high right now, you know, flame Unlike unlike California. You know, we've really never had a mask mandate. Um not. You know we people were anti the vaccine, people were anti It's real. There's a lot happening there, and we didn't necessarily have leadership that pushed people or encourage them

to get more information. So we're now feeling the brunt of it. So, yes, it's very true. Well, I mean in truth, so numbers are going up everywhere, like California. I think we just had two thousand new cases yesterday. So yeah, it's it's getting starting to get bad everywhere with the different of I think we have two new variants now. So and I saw fightsers like ope, you gotta get a third dose, and I'm like, oh glad,

I was got vaccinate with Maderna. We started a little late today, but I got a special guests and time is money, and I hate to waste people's time because I hate people to waste mine. So before I bring my very special guest song whose name is Keisha Grandy. This is Keisha Grandy. Here, hold on, let me show you. Keisha Grandy is a recording artist and she's also an actress. An actress. She's saying with Kurk Franklin and the Family. She was in Tyler Perry's play I Can Do Bad

All by Myself. She has this new music out, this new CD called it Pitome. She is a religious woman who loves us in Lord. She's had a new marriage and she saved my life. Um, maybe about ago, do you want to talk about that more? You just want to move on? When we bring her on, we will talk about it. More with her. Nick finished what you were saying though, because you you were all staticky. But

we can see you now. Oh sounds good. Sorry about that, ladies. Um, it looks like there's also an issue now, Lauren with the Johnson and Johnson beckseye that it could have something to do with the nerve agent. So it looks like this is still all over the place, and it's unfortunate because again this helps to discourage some people who are already fearful about the information. Are you talking to me? No,

you know that. You said, Hey, I don't think it helps anybody playing when with the information is either inconsistent or you know, um, these new revelations keep you know, causing doubts. So yeah, definitely, it's the struggle that has always been my issue. It's not that I do not trust the science. I don't trust the scientists behind it. Right now, well I said, I'm not taking anymore shots. I did. I did my two with Maderna. I'm good And whatever protection I got is just what I got,

because I'm not going through protected. Every time you come here. You see that can over that that blue can, That blue can says light song and it's the old lights off because when you have you seen the news lights of coronavirus, the new the new ones don't oh they don't. Oh, they took it off, so you had to get your lights out of pre pandemic or doing the early part of the pandemic. The new cands of lights out don't

say kills coronavirus. I got the old ones. Um, So let me ask you, do we wanna, you know, kind of start with some of the topics we talked about, or do you want to talk with Keisha right now? I want to bring Keisha in right now because she's been waiting and I'm excited to bring her home. Niggas, we're gonna bring you back in for these topics. So you're gonna do our hot topics with us. Sounds good? So you in a minute. Yeah, So Keisha granted you guys. I want you guys to get her music. I'm sure

it's on Spotify, iTunes. I just got my CD in the mail, like Keisha, like right now for really mail man just right and it just grow that name on that package stuff. She's funny. We might need to send her a message to let her know we're trying to get her. Um. But I really am excited for you to kind of tell your story and connection to Keisha

and all that she really did for you. And it's interesting to how music can really get you through, you know, a tough time, you know, And we've talked about that with some of our other guests, you know, like Common and what music has meant to him, you know, during the time of a pandemic. So I think it's really important to touch on how music can actually really save people's lives. Little did we know, but it's very influential. Definitely say, man, he's your good God, did you save

my life? I'm gonna tell you all the story with no tears in my ey Come on, woman had to bust you to the face. Well you already did that this morning, remember so I would you right? Not you? I love my LORI hokey m hm oh, I think I got her. Okay, yep, miss Keisha, we are coming for you right now. I just sent you a request. We see you in the comments. Hello, lady, Keith. Lady. So y'all have to know that physically, I've never met Keisha Grandy. Oh really no, I've never met just like

I had never met Ta Campbell. Physically, I know, comment ask because then they gave me a birthday party from my birthday last year and so, and speaking of which, what's this Wednesday? Huh? What's this Wednesday? This Wednesday is the birth of a queen with a king's penis? No on the serious, No, this Wednesday is your birthday baby turning nine? Did y'all know she was only three years older than me? Who knew? Hi? Keisha, Hello, beautiful flame.

That's y'all wait in and say hello to Keisha. Granny. So, Keisha, I was on live this morning to be getting ready for the show, because you don't get ready to fab minutes before the show, right, I was playing Lord. I'm sorry. Look, I don't even want to talk about the significance of what that song means to me right now. But we're gonna get to that. But how are you, my darling? I am awesome? Are you? I'm great? Look what I got in the mail today? But that name on that envelope,

let's talk about that. She sent it in? She sent it in Marcus my room, Like, who is this help of sending mere fil people live here? Keisha? Tell us something good? I got a new project that called and we have it right here, and I listened to it on I listened to it on the on YouTube the

other day. But now I have the CD, I can listen to the whole thing because you know, one of my momos is to listen to the B side because a lot of times people missed great music because they only listened to what's popular and not the entire CD. So I'm exciting because you are amazing woman. So you and your newly you're still like a newly way because it's only like two years, right, flame, Where did you get that from me? I thought you got married two

years ago. No, you're not me, Mary, Well, don't feel bad me either. Well, Kisha, we do want to give you a proper introduction. You are a singer, you are an actress, You are a songwriter. You have quite the resume. You know, you're best known for your appearances and Sideline Confessions and also Tyler Perry's I Can do Bad all by myself. You've worked with Kirk Franklin. You know you've

done You've created some amazing pieces of work. So I think I want to start off by asking you know, whats so far that you've done has been your most impactful project or this meant the most to you so far? UM, My most impactful has been doing the stage played with Tyler Perry. I know I can do bad all by myself. Um, if you're a church head, people will definitely say with Kirk Franklin. But all of it has been a blessing

to me. I've worked with two of the most influential people in their areas and I not too many people can say that, And for that, I am very very grateful for the opportunities that have been presented to me. Absolutely so the so the play. Let me let me just take you out here. Let me tell y'all about

thirteen years ago. I was going through a horrible breakup with my baby mom, my daughter's mom, because I had two daby mamas, both names, y'all know the story anyway, the second one was the one I was hit over here was crazy in love with, and she left and left me with a three year old, a three month old, and three and a half year old. And I didn't want to be here. I was hurt, I was broken, I was displaced, I was disgruntled, I was angry, I

was rebellious. Every emotion you could possibly think of I experienced, and my girlfriend Coco Bancardia, who was my personal makeup artist, I was at her house in Vegas and I was like a fell there, as strong as y'all see me now, like a tank. I'll say what I want to say. I was. I was gone, every piece of me was. And I heard you sing Lord, I'm sorry in the play. Because I wasn't at the play. I just watched it

on YouTube. And when I tell you, Coco held me in her bosom the entire night because I wanted to kill myself. I didn't want that pain anymore. I didn't want to be here to me, I didn't care about my children at that point. I just didn't want I wanted to pain to stop because I had put this woman before God in my life. And then the play. In the song Lord I'm Sorry that you can get on YouTube or I tune, she was singing it. She in the place she put a man before God. You

put a man before God. God is a jealous god. He takes away. He took her away, and the play, he took your husband. When you sing that song, Kesha, I cried from the trenches of my soul to let an outcry that I never heard come from me. I never thought that was that song save my life because I had to apologize as for putting God on the back burner for somebody human that didn't care about me

and just did not believe in me. You saved my life, Kepsha brain and I inbox Keisha and told her you walked me through a fire and covered me in a storm, And sister, I adore you. I met your face and Facebook, I'm just giving you a big virtual hood. I'm gonna spread your lives out first. I'm giving you a big virtual hood because I wouldn't be sitting here and I'm telling you what you did for me. I don't even know what it had done for somebody else, but you took me out of a hole that I didn't never

even see the top of. I didn't see the top of her. I was in the darkness, lost the word. Let me tell you when you sang that song, Keisha, because I've seen at that time and imagine y'all did that play over and over and over. But this one particular time when they recorded it, which is on YouTube, what were you going through? Because you sang that song

with emotion, with feeling. This was not just I'm singing this gospel song because I let the Lord something was on you too, because it came through the damn Internet and grabbed me. Let me tell you, After that curtain came down, I stayed there on my face before God because so much was going on in my life at that time. And yeah, what you felt was what I was going through as well. I stayed on my face for I know. Intermission was fifteen minutes and I stayed

on my face for about ten minutes. Somebody had to come get me because the song, the song is there, the songs that because you know Tyler wrights most of his everything and he wrote the lyrics to that song. So um, I was going through a dark period of my life at that time as well. I didn't know the direction that I was gonna go. I didn't know what was gonna happen with my life. So yeah, it hit me like it hits you. Definitely. I m all I remember and that now I want her to go

up and want that fan off. I kept hearing turn the fan off, triple please. I kept hearing all I can hear in the play is that Tyler By Yeah, Yeah, And I get it all the times, I ain't get

the pout. I do have to say though, Um, for me, I always watched Tyler Perry's plays first before I watched the movie because I think that the plays, while his movies are good, don't get me wrong, I think the plays are so much more impactful and they really tell this like authentic story in this space you know, where there's healing, you learn something, it's just it's it's so it's such a beautiful, you know, kind of space to

be in. Like I said, not that the movies aren't great, but the plays just have a different impact and you know, with your audience because you're really interacting with them and you get direct emotion and all of that. So I want to commend you for your acting skills, your singing skills and all that you're doing. And congratulations on the new album as well. Yeah, Keha, I'm looking at the album. I see that you collaborated with Toureal Carter. I know,

too real Card. He's a nice he's a handsome man too. He's a nice guy. Yes, Terrell and I we toured together back in nineties five. Um, it was our Tour of life tour. He was singing with Fred Hammond at the time, and I was with Kirk. So we became really close on that tour and he's been my friend ever since. I mean, no matter what he's doing in life, if I call him, he's like, what do you need for me to do? I'm right there for you. So yeah, that's that's my heart. Teach you. Let me ask you.

You also used to sing with Kirk Car and the Kirk Car Singers. Right then you said you didn't sing on for Every Mountain. No, that young lady's name is Yvette Williams. No, no, no, not the song. I thought you sang with the with the actual choir because I was okay. I was in San Mateo a couple of weeks ago and I met a producer who used to work with you there and I told you about that from the mac family, and she spoke very highly of you.

She but she was saying that she I thought she said that you're saying with Kirk Frank, I mean with Kirk Carr and the Kirk Carr Singers, One for every Mountain. If you never saying another gospel song for me, I can listen to the Lord. I'm sorry all day every day in the night and the happy times and in the same time, because I know what it did for me the words Tyler Perry wrote that song. I don't know what Tyler Perry was going through, but Tyler Perry,

Tyler Perry put those words the paper. But you brought that song such to life, Keisha, Oh my god? And why you based that? Because you do the radio where in Memphis? Uh No, I live in Dallas, Texas. I'm in Dallas, Texas. Um, this is that. This has been my only home. So yeah, it's Dallas for me. I love that. What was I going to ask you? Because the flame messer coming in? Because I've been sending all my flame mess you because I talked about on my

love Lounge. I've talked about the story of you and I in the song I played numerous times, so I know people be in your inbox said flame played this flame. I am very I'm loyal about nothing else. I ain't much of nothing else, but I'm very loyal. But I'm a signing of it. Let me let y'all know that. Okay, let me ask you too, how did you get your

starting music? Because we, like I was saying, before you came on we've had conversations about how music has really gotten us through the pandemic, and nobody, I don't think, really understood how important and vital it is. So how did you get your starting music? And then we can kind of trail into what music has done for you in your life. Well, I got my start um, while I started singing, like probably at the age of four. I was really young, and my first major thing was

with Kirk. Kirk would do this uh Martin Luther King program every year and I met a guy, a girl in my college that asked me. She was like, I'm going to this concert tonight, so do you want to go? Sure? So went to the concert. Um, I guess because I was sitting on the front row with her, he assumed that I could sing, and he just pulled me up and gave me the mic and I sang. And after the concert he was like, look, I'm putting this group together called the Family, and I would love to have you.

And I was like, I've got to ask my mom because I'm only eighteen years old, and he was like, okay, okay, I'll have a meeting with her. So he talked to my mom and my aunt and they were like, well, she's in college right now, so I don't know. So he convinced them and the rest is history. How did you get hooked up with Tyler? Okay? So because of the track record with Kirk, Um, the promoter for that

show also was starting to promote Tyler. And this was at a point to where Um, Kirk and the family was going their separate ways and I didn't know what I was gonna do next. So I went to the promoter and I was like, look, I need some work and he was like, well, I have this new guy named Tyler Perry that's coming out with this play, and if you're interested, I need you to drive to Houston and talk to him. No, said, got in my car,

drove to Houston. Mett Tyler. At that time, he was doing a play, his very first play, which was called I Know I've Been Changed Awesome. Oh my god. That show was amazing. But after the show, I met Tyler and I was like, Hi, I'm Kesha. He said, oh, I know who you are. He said, read the script, go over, let me know if you like it, and we'll just go from there. So I read the script and I was like, I want to do it. And

he was like, Okay, that was it. I didn't I didn't have to do too much due to, you know, the link between Tyler and the promoter. So that's how I got in. Oh girl, I want to hear nobody else seen that. So if I don't hear another woman, I'm gonna fight. I'm propmt y'all. I'm telling you, I don't want to hear nobody seeing that song. You cal bear, girl, don't do that. So little Bernie told me that you and Kirk Franklin might be collaborating again very soon. I

don't know, we might be. We'll see. I don't know. Kirk Franklin, stop playing and call my girl. Don't talk sometimes, but yeah, I'm when we have are we're gonna have a little meeting, a little power just to hang out. So yeah, he needs to come on with a come on the stop trip and tell us to like pandemic? What was that like for you? What do music do for you? You know what? What what was going through your mind during the pandemic and what do music do?

Pandemic actually turned out to be a blessing for me. Um. I was able to record my entire project during the pandemic, so um going through the actual motions of it, I never worried about it too much. People and my family were getting sick, but I knew that God was gonna protect me because I knew that I had an assignment. I knew I had more work to do, so I dove off into my music. I I finished my album

within a year. But it was work, work, work on this project because this is my actually my first project solo wise, so for me, this was um my baby, so I had to put my all into it. So I was shut off from the rest of the world. I was in the studio most of the time, so it didn't affect me in a bad way. I was able to accomplish something that I wanted to do all

my life, so it wasn't a bad thing for me. Keisha, who was some of your gospel influences before and now you know passed and not dead but just an old school and now my number one influence was Whitney Houston. Anybody that knew me know that Whitney was the one that actually did it for me. We performed at an award show and Whitney performed with us, so everybody in

the family knew that I was Whitney Houston fanatic. And she was standing on the stage telling me to come over to speak to her, and she was like, come here, come in, come Mary, and I just stood there and I just I could not move. I was for I could not. I I'm mad at myself to this day because I didn't go over there and say something. Tour So Whitney Houston, UM and gospel it's Derenda Clark cole Um. I love Lee Andrea, I love the Clark Sisters period um. But for gospel, I like more of I'm more of

a deeper range type of lover of a singer. So a lot of the guys in gospel. Darryl Coley, Terrell, I love Terrell. Lord. That boy Terrell used to come to Dallas and we would drive down the street, and all people want to do is that he should do this like bo I'm not just to sit in this car and try to riff like I can't sing like we would say. We would go to six Flags and we would not ride nothing. We would stay in the studio boo the entire time singing. Three kinds of fan too, Yeah,

oh no, he definitely three kinds of fan. He twelve now he twelve times a game. He three kinds of fine. Let me just say, well, I know him persons, I can say, I'm not saying nothing that's not public. Oh when he got telling you he's fine? He I know. I look. That thing is delicious, gorgeous. That thing is as Gard and Peter Pan and a pal Kate baby. Real talk. He has a handsome man. He is a very handsome. Because I want to know, um, because because

you do you have any children? No, you're not playing on having any. I'm too old girl. Please come take one of man. I can't one for you right in the house right now, party trained and everything. Oh I got Please Was that a conscious decision or you just didn't get married so you don't have a baby? Um? Earlier in my life, No, I didn't because I was traveling the world. You know. I was like, you know,

i'll do that later. Um. But later on in life I started because I was married at one point and my husband and I tried to have a kid and it didn't happen. So I was like, well, maybe it's not working because I got something else to do later. So you know, I keep everybody else's kids. I'm I'm the favorite aunt in the world. I'm the best auntie ever. Wait a minute, what's your what's your address? Because I'm I got you some nieces in here because I'm it's

challenging being a parent, especially being a single parent. Let me tell you that, baby, I got some daughters that challenged me, and I have created monsters. I have turned me into little means and that's very true. I gotta give you that. Oh my gosh, it's a nightmare, Okasha. Let me ask you, though, what is your preference? Do you prefer singing or acting or do you love them equally? I love them equally. So what would be the dream

project singing? And then the dream project acting? Dream projects singing? Well, the person I would wanted to do it with she's gone, but after her, I would love to do something with Leandrea Fantasia. That's the type of singer I am, sole Andrea Fantasia, Derenda. Those are those powerhouse singers and I would love to do something with them. And you look beautiful on this cover. The makeup, the makeup is beautiful.

Her name is Layla Monade. She is amazing girl. You look like the Indian you look like Pokahonted, right, I get it all, well, most of the time, I get um, do you have Chinese in your blood? I'm just glad. Tell me, tell me got a little bit of air thing because the slave man couldn't stay at the slave quarter. That black girl magic been going popping since we got here, exactly the second part of the question, what's the dream project? Acting wise, dream film? Or who to work with? Um?

Acting wise? Um, I would love to work with Tyler again. Yeah, um, I would love to work with Lee Daniels. I want to work with all the black uh directors exactly support everybody black. I feel that. Yeah. Yeah, But if I were to go outside, I would love to do something with Steven Spielberg. Yeah, somebody that I would consider. But yeah, she was starstruck. Somebody said, why didn't you go over

to Whitney? She was starstruck? Oh gosh. And I've met so many celebrities, but Whitney is the only one that I've sail. I've sang on stage with Patti LaBelle like Facebook, I mean, we're battling, singing, and I was, you know, like wow, I can't believe I did this. But when it came to Whitney Houston. Oh God, she's alpha and omega for me and singing. She really is. Yeah, I won't.

I know. Tyler is bringing Medea out of retirement and he's doing some new movie and he's gonna show his old stripper days and his name is gonna be delicious. My dear needs how best girlfriend used to work in this great club. Stripper club was scrumptuous. That would be me, ty Lo, call a bit while you're delicious. We'll just be a whole buffet. That would be amazing. But if

we do that, you have to come and sing. I know I need you in the play because I need you to sing, because girl, I may just break out and side crying. That's the song. Key, I'm telling you. I was and I am. Everybody's like flaming you so strong, you woo. But everybody has a point to where they have been to a place where there was just nobody you could talk to that could bring you out of it.

I didn't even know. I was just scrolling through something and I heard that, and girl, I stopped dating my tracks. I stopped, like this is it this? I hear you? I heard you, girl. I was retrying to come to your house. I ain't know where you live, but I was gonna come to your house. You know. I'm just I'm so thankful because you just never know the impact

that you have on people. And I get messages. Even though I did that play over ten years ago, I still get inboxes saying stuff like what you said, And you never know how you touch a person. But every person that has told me that I've impacted their life, I'm so grateful because I've had people that have impacted mine, and I'm just grateful that you are my my friend, and I love you so much. And I hope I can win you over with one of my new songs,

but I don't know if that's possible. Love Lounge Tonight, I'm gonna playing my Love Loune tonight. Oh my god, we do we do. I'm gonna playing on the Love Lounge. I might not talk nice about it, not in a bad way, in a sexual way. You know you're you're a Christian woman. You might not want to listen to you on that. But we play all kinds of music.

I love to introduce audiences to the B side. And I always say that because people only here what's popular played in See that's what happened when you get old school. See when we was old school and you had a record player and you was cleaning up the house and washing walls and scrubbing floors, you didn't have time to stop and change the song back to the you you put the damn or the pinion of the quarter on the arm and you just let it play all the

way through. That's right, that's right, that's right. I remember those days. I had to watch walls. See that's why I love you, Keisha. Let me ask you, what advice or like wisdom or you know, a little nugget would you give somebody trying to come up in the music industry now, based on all of your experience, what would be like the one golden nugget that you would give them for their career? Learn the music business again, learn

the music business. So many people we've seen those documentaries with TLC and Tony Braxton of getting played in the industry. HA to know what you're getting into because it's a lot of vultures in there and secular music and in gospel, so you have to be on top of what you're signing. You have to be on top of what you know. You're singing, but you need to make sure that you're getting some type of something off of what you're doing.

Because this please learn the music business. Everybody wants to sing, everybody is just happy to be there, but don't get so into it that you forget that there's a business aspect of it, and everybody is making off of making money off of what you're doing, except for you. So make sure that you learn the music business and never give up on your dream. I almost gave up on trying to do a solo project because nobody was calling

my phone to do anything. But right in the nick of time, God sent a guy by the name of Kelby, which is my production seame J Production, and he said, I want to do your project that I don't want you to worry about no money paying for it. I just want you to do a project. So what what God has for you, you have to know it's for you. Same thing with Flame. Flame hadn't done anything in a long time, and God brought Tiffany right back to her life, and Tiffany honored her and did what she said she

was gonna do. If if if God has an assignment for you, God's delay is not his denial. It will come to pass away. That's a good one. I like that one. That was a good one. You know what I want to ask you when you just mentioned because I was going to ask you about the behind the scenes of gospel music. Did the other side? Because you know Christians and we love the Lord, But on the

other side, some of them Christians cuts up. Baby green Leaf told it all how how treacherous is because who I grew up on gospel music female was um Tremaye Hawkins. And see Tremaine Hawkins is my ultimate everything because that's just the right there. Also wrote a song that saved me called excuse Me I was in prison. I was in prison, heard that and just another time that God pulled me out the fire. But she doesn't get the regulzy because when Landa Adams came out, it seemed like

it just opened up a flower for gospel music. What's the dark side on the other side of Keisha? It's definitely a dark side, just like anything else. You know, Like I just said, you have to make sure that you know what you're doing before you step in the fire. Um. I thank God for every opportunity that I was able to have, and I thank God for the trials that I had to go through. You know, Um, the hardest thing is being in something and you're sitting on a

shelf and you can't do nothing. You know a lot of that happens in music period. You sign a record deal and ten years when I went by, and you ain't done nothing and you're just sitting there waiting. So gospel behind this means it's not no better or worse than secular. It's all the same. Will you will you ever sing secular music? I will sing music. I'm a I'm a lover of music. I went to a performing art school. Um Erica Bado was a singer when I was a freshman at my high school. Um Norah Jones

came out of my school. So I can sing classical music, I can read music. I can sing jazz. I can sing just about every genre. So I'm a lover of music period. So yeah, I'm singing every I can sing everything. That's very Aretha frankl Reatha say, I can do anything. Ain't nothing I can't do. I love to read it. For that wreath, it was a gangst The wreatha was like and what did you tell I can't do let me give it to me. I love to read it

for that. Yeah. I used to think I could do anything, and then I tried walking up the stairs real fast this morning. Yeah, no, are you went to book of t High School in Dallas. Will Gill knows that something you see, the flame meths will research you. My my, my lord. Listeners are very smart and they're very loyal. I do pray myself on having the smartest listeners on the internet because there's some dumbass people out here, but my people are smart. I want to ask you about

now we're going to politics. I want and I'm not gonna even ask you how how you rad and who you vote with? But um, you guys got a lot going on in Texas with who is that kemp uh abbot Abbott with your governor and then you know, you guys had that blackout because you all have your own grid there. What is Texas? Were you? You're in the blackout?

How long? Almost three weeks? What is Texas going to do about all of these ten cruises and all these foods that y'all keep voting to put in positions that they don't care about people by us being a red state. I'm not sure of the future of Texas. Um. A lot of people are ready to ready for a change, and I hope that that's the case for real. But by me living in a red state, it's I don't know. I don't know. So much has happened, but I don't know what's gonna happen. Look, you and me, you and

us both, we don't know nothing. Baby, let me chell something the well. The times keep changing and the last keep coming. And I just believe me. I believe me. Yeah, definitely, you know. I just I just pray that things change for us. It's gonna take a miracle because the Red States they loyal even if something is being done wrong, They're gonna be loyal. You're not watching the news, you know there was. It was a picnic on January six in d C. But in Georgia, Baby, it was a

celebration called Stacy araom said, we turning it blue. I love it. When I saw that I was, I was lord and grateful because I never thought I would have let me. I'm sorry, I'm gonna get you. Let me ask you a question as a black woman and in times right now, how proud of you are? Are you of so many amazing black women right now? Because black women is whoa like a train with no brakes right now? Oh my goodness. I'm so when I see reports that say black women are the top graduates of college, and

I knew that that's who we were. I love it. Like to write about that, I love it. I love it when I see our black women doing it. I'm it's like having that big s on your chest because I know we as women go through so much, we have to endure so much, and to see that see us still going through that and still coming out on top is amazing. I'm proud to say that I'm a degreed woman that that that's something that I wear proudly

on top of my music stuff. You know, I'm proud to be able to say, yeah, I gotta degree as well. I just don't know how to sign. I can do other stuff too well. I'm not gonna let you all get away to all these degrees on that she went to spell when you graduate, I went to prison? Does that I got a degree in the street smart? I went to prison, baby, I gotta degree, but it might not have been for for a uh. I got an electricians degree. I'll tell you about that for my one

hour special. What I do want to do though, Keisha's I'm gonna bring on a couple of the flame mats. They've been in the comments, so I'm gonna bring in people love you, Keisha. I'm telling you I have told your story our story because that's our story. That is our story, and I have told it publicly. I've cried about it and everything. Not today though yesterday. This is Joey Honey. I'm supposed to got a new CD ou Epito Me. I want you all to get it. It's

on Spotify, Iune, loans, Apple, all of that. Because guess what, we have to support each other. And this is her first project solo, her baby, so we gotta get this her first. Yeah, this is the first baby girl. I got a third one over here. You can come get that one ship. Yeah, your kids to Texas. They'll have the best time ever. God, I got one out there.

One can I send it right now? We don't bring our partner the next myth in so he can question talk with you because when you know, it's three of us, but he's uh, he's our He's in Boston. He's on vacation. Hey, thank you so much for joining us. You know we love you, We love your music and Flame and said you you touched flames, life and Flame and shared that story. So being part of her testimony, I want to personally thank you for being part of the show today because

we are honored to have you as a guest. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. You know you was a couple. Everybody did a couple of what in box Inbox Flame. I was like, what are you doing? Yeah no, I'm still out of here single in these three so I'm trying to keep me in prayer. Do that that I have to keep up with Flame and see what's going on. Yeah, no, nothing like that. I do want to ask you a question though, as we get started here, you're talking about gospel and your influence

any of the older women like the Tremaine Hawkins. Do you still listen to any of that? Do those things still move you on? On the random Sunday when you're cleaning your house and you just got your music going, that's all I listened to is old gospel. The old gospel music gets me through whatever situation I'm going through. The Tremaine's uh, c c uh pa. Yes, guy, yeah, those those old choirs. I'm a choir lover. I love

Milton Bronson, um all that old stuff. Yes, don't know nothing about Reverend Milton Bronson and Tompson community singing thing. And there is no way you don't know nothing about that. I said, you gave me chills when you just said you might have to give us a land of that. You know you don't have to sing for us before you leave, so you just sat on what you want to give us. You don't have to give us a

little change of something. But Keisha, let me ask you though, because I know you said you started singing you when you were four, But did you actually grow up in the church? Like was that your foundation of singing? And if it was, what was that like? Um? I grew up in church. Um, I was adopted, so my adopted family. UM, my dad was a pastor and my mom was the first lady. So I had to be on the straight narrow. I was at church Sunday. I'm Sunday morning, noon night, Wednesday,

Thursday sold. Church was my life. And when I grew up, I said, I ain't gonna go to church no more. But well they do have people that go to church for fast twelve days after week. I told my Grandmama used to try to do that to me. I said, I wanted the church. One day, said God, I know you seek of my ship. Ain't even coming back. I know you're seeking me. I know you're sick of my ship.

I love it. But you know, I've never been the type of person to judge nobody's lifestyle because us in the church, trust me, we got just as many issues as anybody else, whether they want to admit it or not, but just as much go on in church as it does outside of it. And I'm one of those ones that would be like, look, I'm far from perfect. That's why you know, so so many people called thee Andrea crazy and she's out of order. Look I love Lee Andrea. Andrea is who she is, but she but but she

loves God. We all struggle, as Donnie say, we all fall down, but we get up. We all have struggles, and that's what people need to see with Christians because we try to make ourselves look like we're perfect. When the stuff that comes, when the covers come out and they start seeing who you really are, then you gotta start trying to fix and try to tell people you know, well, you know, you know, God isn't but let people know

that you're still human. We are still humans. So the human side of us are gonna do things that's not pleasing to God. But we strive to be perfect, which will never be. And I'm not gonna even try to try. I'm not gonna even try to be perfect because I know I'm not. I love God, but I'm not perfect. M Let me ask you a questions about mentorship. I have to believe that there are times when you run across other young people who are aspiring singers or actresses,

and they they ask you for advice. What advice do you have to share with some of them who would like to emulate your career in your trajectory. I most of the time tell the young people. I actually have a little group of young ladies that created a fan page for me. UM. I always try to tell them, you know, don't give up on your dream. Get involved in local stuff in your communities. You know, the theater. There's always some type of theater thing in your in

your community. UM. Try to go to schools that you know that boost you and help you in those areas because I promise you my school prepared me for a lot. The only thing, the only fault that my school, um, that I have against my schools. They didn't teach us about the music business. They taught us how to be stars, but they didn't teach us how to conduct our business within that. You opened the door there, talk to us

about that. What have you learned along the way? UM, I've learned that you have to make sure that your businesses in order or you will you'll have issues. You'll have issues. Can you touch something there? I'm sorry, y'all, fins touching stuff that she shouldn't be touching. So now we have problems. So I'm sorry to keep you go ahead telling the story of my life. You have to you have to be on your piece and keys. There's a book that's out there that's called All you Need

to Know about the Music Business. And if your singing career is gonna be your business, you need to learn how to conduct that. You can't just be going everywhere and singing for two dollars and to to you know, and this is that's your livelihood. Now, if that's something that you just do, you know as an extra, you know activity and then that's different. But if this is your career, you have to make sure that you're set

into place in order to be able to survive. Now, being a gospel artist, it's a lot harder trying to be a gospel artist and live a good life like that. There's very few in gospel that's able to do that. Kirk Franklin is allowed is able to do that. Um your landa um who else Donnie see see one. There's very few in our industry that that's able to make up a great living at doing that. So you have to find other avenues. That's why I'm glad God bless me to be able to sing other genres of music.

I still sing jazz. I traveled and I sing jazz music. So with that gift that you have, you have to find other avenues to do what you love to do. If you if you're trying to be a gospel artist. You know, and I love Keisha that when I reached out to you years ago inbox, you never judge me. You never looked at me sad ways, you never It's just the message whatever. I don't even remember what message

I sent you, but I remember telling you. Then you know that that song had saved me, and girl, just and you knew I was because you know, sometimes I look like this, sometimes I look like that. Sometimes I look like those in them. But girl, you were just I love that you are accepting of people. To me, that is what makes people christ like. Because everybody got an opinion. I got one too, and man, don't man,

don't stop never. But you just embraced who I was as a person because I came to you as a fan, as a person who to let you know what the impact that you did have on me? Uh? Were you always like that? Were you raised with your because I know you said you were adopted. I didn't even know that Tiffany would have loved to hear that. You know, Tiffany loved the whole adoption process and everything. The people that raised you, I know you said they were very religious.

Were they like that open to the LGBT community and open to other people outside of what they were? They were more of like, okay, because all my friends have always been gay. I went to a performing art school, so most of the friends that I brought around were gay, so they knew of the life. But um they were They were not as accepting as I was. But they were like, oh, well, okay, that's fine, that's fine because they know Keisha was gonna be Keisha, and Keisha was

gonna be around who she wanted to. So the older that they get and they see, you know, how the world has changed and evolved, they really don't. They really don't have an opinion. Sometimes they'll be like, well, I don't know about that. I don't know, And all I say is, you know, God is loved. God loved everybody, no matter who they are. God loves everybody. So the older that they're getting, the more they're more receptive to it. I've always been somebody's good Judy, that's my land, keyship,

that's my land, the whole. All Bibles in all languages could have three pages and say God is loved and nothing else, all that extra we all need all that extra. No, No, it's not our place to judge nobody. And a lot of times those that be judging be heaven their little secret lives. Anyway, behind the scene, you're gonna talking about your Cosby he just got out. Wait a minute, who am I to judge and tell somebody who they are and who they're not that's not my place. My place

is to only preach God's love. That's my only job. Preach God's love, show people love, genuine love, you know. That's that's my only job as a believer. I want you guys to get the CD and I want you guys to follow Keisha Grandy. What's your what is it Keisha Nation? That's your fan club or the official Keisha Grandy. I want you all to follow Keisha. I want you to get this a pity me c D because flame matks. We have to support our people. Keisha is one of

the keisha Is. If it wasn't for Kesha Grandy, y'all, y'all wouldn't know me. Understand that, if it was not for that, maybe I'm singing that song, y'all would know me because I I'm telling you, I was there and I am a brick. Nothing breaks me, but I was a broken bitch at that time. But crack like a egg. Keisha. Letting me ask you to what upcoming projects outside? I mean, we have the album, we know that what else is coming up and we can expect from you and be

on the lookout for. Um Well, I am doing my first video shoot coming up in August. That's coming up, and I will be making a vocal appearance. And a new movie that's coming out called For the Love of Money. Um, that's with Kat Williams and Oh my gosh who stars in that. So it's a slew up stars in that movie.

And I'll be singing in the funeral scene. Are we gonna be able to see you out in like venues and things like that since the world is opening up, Like, are you on to get in that space where people can come and see you perform live as well? Yes, yes, I'm definitely working on that. So I'm doing a gazillion interviews. I thank God for you, guys. I thank you guys.

I thank God for Flame for putting me on her platform because she didn't have to do that, you know, so I thank Flame for being such a loyal person, and I mean Flame is royalty, so for her to even say to this little girl from Texas, I want you to come on my platform. I thank God for you, guys so so much for having me here. But yeah I have I'm I'm lining up trying to line up shows now and yeah, all of that's in the works.

Love it, love it. I have a question. I have a question if I when when in there, if I come and see you laugh and you know I'm there, am I gonna? Am I gonna get my song? I know that might not be part of your repertoire, but am I gonna personally get my song? If I see you in the audience, I'm gonna break out with it, girl, and you're gonna see me because I'm gonna have the biggest wigo and my titties will be sitting right here always see me, and I'm gonna brain you right on

up to the front. Girl. You know when you said the earlier in the show, when you said when the number was over your head to land on your face. I've been telling my listeners that's how I pray. When I go to God, I lay out like God on the cross with my face down, surrendering everything. Because that's what when you said that. I remember now because you're not black, and you laid out because you was girl. You was done and you surrendered everything. Girl, I would

have loved to have been behind the scenes. How are the other actors on the play with you? After you? After that? Because I'm telling that night it was that day that taping was so powerful. Did they come and embrace you and movable? Yes, Tam, I think Tam Tam came out on the stage and got me. Um. Actually we had recorded that show twice. Um, the first one was even more powerful than the one that was put out. Um, the lights went out, so we were not able to

put out the first. He could pay that got a whole studio, Tyler could pay to like you on that. But yes, that show was. I mean it was amazing even when we toured it, because we actually filmed that show like maybe five or six years later toured it, so yeah, it was, it was. It was amazing. It was amazing. And the other cast members, every last cast member, because now let me tell you this, the cast member, some of the cast members that originally toured the show,

we're not in the on the actual filming. Yeah. So the person that played my sister touring wise, I've had Jamisha Bennett, which is and as Thee's daughter. She was the first may Lee and then the second may Lee was Terry Brown from Trinity five seven. So we had a few values I means may Lee's uh within the show. But the lady that did that did the filming, she actually matched to look like she could have been my sister. So I thought that was amazing. Oh, I loved her.

I loved her voice and her care and timler Man when she said, Tam, she was talking about timbler Man. Timler Man was so good. The young girl who played the daughter of your sister play. I didn't realize that she was a woman. She really did look like a young girl. But she's sang motherless child wonderfully. And then y'all have to see I can do bad about myself to play not the damn movie. Taggi was still acting like she was cookie. But I'm just saying that play

was That play was amazing. What is the probability of you working with Tyler again? Seriously, I don't know. I don't know. I would love to work with him again. Um. You know her friend of mine and interviewed him. She she was u uh, she worked for the Dallas Morning News and she did an interview. She interviewed him and she told him, she said, you know, we have a mutual friend in coming. And he was like who and uh she said, Keisha granted and he just started but

he started smiling. Let me tell you what. Me and Tyler used to do. So we would always pretend like we was we was gonna kiss, so we would always go into each other's lips and then we would turn our heads. This nut. Besides, one day we're going in for our little kiss and this fool kiss my ups. I'd about passed down. But no, you ain't supposed to be kissing on me. Girl. You're supposed to marry him back then he was you should have married him, girl,

you could be Mrs Tyler Perry. I know right, Ladies and gentlemen are very special guests. Keep you Grandy. This is her new music Epidiment. It's a new project. It's a very first project. And we can find this on iTunes, Spotify, you can get it. What can what else? Can we order a keisha um if you actually want a hard copy, because you know something like the older people my family,

they had to get the CD. So my mom was like, you know, I don't know how to do all that new stuff, so we made sure that CDs are available. So just email me at Grandy Inc. At y'all do at y'allhoo dot com and I can actually send you a copy. Grandy Inc. At Y'allhoo dot com and y'all follow Keisha at the official Keisha grand To Keisha Grande. Let me tell you, physically, I've never met you, but spiritually you belong to me because I to you. I'm

telling you you belong to me because you sister. Save me, and I mean everybody who knows me. No, I talked all day and they ain't scared of Jack, right. I was scared of that hurt. And that's why I always tell people about love that I was so broken behind that love. I tell people all the time, I'm not afraid of the new love. I'm afraid of the old hurt. Yeah, makes total sense. I can't do it, girl, you ain't gone. Yeah, because you gotta say. You gotta give us a line

of even if it's just a little riff. I don't want to hear. If I want to hear, Lord, I'm sorry, just just a tain't just a little bit. Please forgive me God. I'll never about to another man again who I never know. Her mother's love, no peace to find in my heart and I don't even Oh it's your but has done so much wrong? Did you free see see how the devil be you? See the devil. The devil is a liar. The devil is I've done so

so she said, I've done so much wrong. I had to look up because I knew she was talking to me. The devil is A wait a minute, kill you? What happened? A little frozen? She's frozen? Lauren fixed elsa. Okay, there you are, come back. I need you to start right. But I don't see when you said I've done so much wrong. The devil is a lot of the devil. You're right, because you knew you're talking to me. It was you frozen. I'm singing again. I just wanted to hear.

But I've done so much wrong. Lord knows that I have seen. Yep, that's my lane right there, because that's that's some real ship for me. Up done so much? Roll? Lot of nose? See? How do I get up from me? Is this? What? How hap begin? I'm gonna stop. Let me tell you something. This is the project? Maybe that the name of that song that she just sang. It's not on this CD, but it's called Lord. I'm sorry from the Tyler periods player. I can do bad out by myself, and I'm telling you right now. If you

can't make it to church. And if you don't believe that you can call out to the Lord, you can put this song on. And I'm telling you the life you saved, maybe your own, because that song, when you're singing it, saved me. See, I don't know CC Wine would have sang it the same. She might not have saved me. I might want to steal, just cutting Dawn Risks, but you yeah, yeah, Kesha, Granny, thank you for joining us. I am I am such a fan, I am such

a friend, and we appreciate you. A flame mank, y'all get some love to keep you granty and follow her and buy her music. Flame manks, don't make me stop talking. Ship, get the music, Get the music, flame mank. Let's get it when support Keisha because we call a few more topics. But Keisha, thank you for joining us. I so appreciate you, and we will be playing a couple of these songs tonight on Love Lounge. Now you need to come in out on the fake name because you know you're a

Christian woman. You don't want to hear my filthy mouth tonight for I really don't thank you so much, Keisha, Thank you, Granny, thank you, my darling. Wow, that was a good conversation. Nick. What you feel about I know what, I don't want to talk about Bill as we got out of prison and he's going back on the road to tour as a comedian. What do you think about that? Wow, that was a transition. I wanted to kind of put

a button on Keys. I just thought that was fantastic Flaimer once again, just another example of somebody following their passion. So you know, we definitely have to make sure that we support her and her art. So well, that was a good time. Way. That was a good same way into Bill Cosby is following his passion. He's a comedian and he's going back on the road. Now. Mind you, when he was going to court he was blind and bent over with a cane that Nigga came pimping up

out the court when they let him out. I'm just I'm just saying, won't God do it? Was it? God? So lui? It must be? Because I'm thinking that anytime. You know, he's always been a man of faith, right, and he said even at his conviction that this would not last. He felt strong in the process. Uh, oh that's us. Sorry, go ahead, oh no, no problem, Lauren was flame backing up Mr Rosetta, get your son one left, good for you, good for you? Just yes, yes, let me say what I've got to say about Bill Cosby.

I think that Bill Cosby will probably sell out a few arenas because people want to hear what he has to say. Here's my thing. When you know Bill is eighty four. When he's on stage and he said, can I get a drink, he'll probably say, just don't bring me one of man. Real talk, just real talk. He might go to sleep on stage. Remember, to be fair, people did support Louis c k when he went back out on the road, you know. So I think that there's a space for men who have been accused of

maybe bad things to always have a comeback. I don't know that that same space is given to um to everyone else. So yeah, I just think that there are men who who will always be given a pass for whatever reason UM to return back to what it is they love to do. Because I don't think that we hold most men accountable in the same ways that we hold people who are not maybe uh privy to the same access. Well, let me say this, because the Internet ain't ship somebody put up a pinture picture of it.

Wasn't named Angela Constantina. What was her? And next to herman monster bitch? When I tell you that was the funniest ship. Oh. They looked exactly like if you ever watched the Monsters, they looked just like she looked just like Herman Monster. I'm like, oh, Bill, there ain't no corny jokes with you. That's real ship. You ain't got to like it, baby, because you ain't watching you. Did you hear that I ain't watching you? Boo? I don't think that was directed at you. Now, that was no

corn joke. That was funny what Nick said, because y'all, y'all don't know that our technic asks up off land all day. You know what. The planet's jump on me. Don't be thinking on please let them now. I was not thinking up. He's bigger than me, Ladies and gentlemen. He speaker to me. He's big black. He's big black. I'm a little yellow. This is this is Tawny Brown speaking of towny tabith Can we talk about Tabitha Brown and her completely respectful, wonderful clap back to the windy

It was. It was fantastic, classy, no cussin a polite and it cut to the bone. Yeah, no, it did. I'm actually very happy for her that she did it in that way. There's no people say that there's no better way to take a wind out of somebody's sale than to kill them with kindness, and that's exactly what she did. So I'm glad she got that little for

Wendy Williams for sure. So, you know, Charlotte Maagne kind of touched on how he's surprised that at this stage in her career Wendy is still kind of doing the same not necessarily positive things where it's just unnecessarily nasty sometimes and and he wonders why she has not healed and kind of moved on from the kind of thing that you know, brought her into because most we see, most of these hosts evolve over time that it is not the same show year after year for a year.

But I think his complaint was that he knows one day and he's like, he's surprised she's still doing the same kind of things that kind of are mean and kind of hurt people for no reason. Hurt people, hurt people, hurt people, and to be fair, to be fair, if we hadn't had I mean, Wendy hadn't had a nail in her coffin before then her ex husband married the woman that he had a baby with, So whether whatever they went through, that was a whole another pain that

we publicly had to watch. She he didn't marry her, He just called her his soul mate. No, I think they got married. I think I don't know. I think they may. And I think she needed to take a break because I think she's hurt and broken. Maybe she needs to listen to Lord. I'm sorry, but keeps your grandy.

It helped me. Uh, can I mention someone who reminded me of Zdi Jeddy almost got kicked out of school today, But you can't the young woman who just was script's National spelling Yes, I was so impressed with how articulate she was, how just comfortable she was in her own skin, just talking about her passion for basketball. Oh, I just did the spelling thing on the side, but her passion

is really basketball, and I just thought it was. So It's always refreshing when I see young people like that who are just inherently positive, And she just seemed to be just a good spirit in her name helped me. Lauren. I think that she pronounced it Zaliah avant Garde. Okay, Julia Avangard, So congratulations. She's in the Book of World Records for dribbling. Yeah. Yeah. And she talked about with on the CBS this morning that oh yeah, the spelling.

I just really liked it. And we just practiced for seven hours a day. But I really love basketball. So she was very clear that, oh yeah, I'm so happy that I want this and I put it in the work. However, my real passion is basketball. So I just thought that was fantastic, fantastic. Yeah. She said she wanted to play in the w NBA one day. And she's very humble. Whoever her parents are. Kudos to her parents because she is. For her to be such a young woman, she has

so much humility, and she speaks very antic. It's not forced, it ain't fake, and reminded me of your youngest So I think, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on, let me get this compliment. So are you saying that I'm an amazing parent? Is that what you're saying. I've said that from day one, day one, and then it's absolute true. I wish people saw that and you know,

oh no, no, no, didn't hit a beep. And when I was backing up, when the truck was making a noise with your punk as lord tax, yes, I see it, I see it now. But what I wanted to say was, I think that the special thing about this young lady is she's actually being allowed to be a fourteen year old girl. I think there's so many instances where there's young female teenagers they're not allowed to live their childhood

adolescents and actually be a teenager. And she's a prime example of an individual that's being able to do that. So I think that's also to what made me so happy to see this young, bright, intelligent individual. And the president of l s U even offered her a scholarship you know if she wanted to come to the school via Twitter. So her feature is very bright, very very

bright Lauren as a young woman. Seriously, though, because we kind of danced over to made a joke of it, how do you feel about um Mr Cosby and him coming back on the road. Do you feel threatened by that and difficult? You were his like you're in the in the demographic that he allegedly had been attracted to um my feelings towards Bill Cosby. One. Um, we know he's guilty because that was the premise of why he was locked up. He was given this immunity deal in

two thousand and five. However air tight it may or may not have been, and that's what was used to prosecute him. At the end of the day, um My condolences and UM you know, I just I have so much remorse for these women. Um. But at the end of the day, I think it's gonna come down to who chooses to patronize him now in this new time. You know, I will be very honest. I still watched the Cosby Show, but in this instance I separate, you know,

Heathcliff Huxtable from Bill Cosby. Some people may not agree, but I do because I think while he did what he did, Bill Cosby in another space was actually, you know, very philanthropic. Like I, Like I said, I went to spell in college. We have a building called the Camille Cosby Building. He gave money to Spellman to erect this

building in the same after his wife. So I say that to say that I think in his past what he what he did in terms of philanthropy and what he did for television and film should still be showcased and provided for the public to view. But I still think at the same time, you know, people now have the option to choose whether or not they want to patronize him. If he's going on tour and doing these other things, I personally will not be attending. However, like

I said, I still watched the Cosby Show. I still watch a different world I do. It's important to our culture and to our history. So those are my feelings. I still I still supported to Bill Coby. I still love a piece of the action I grew up on. Doom Doom Do Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom doom. Hey, y'all get thee hes fat. I love that up. I

love what Billy Bill Cosby stood for. But I also knew the other side because I have been around so many celebrities from way back, and I knew some things that I had heard from people who worked with him. And my biggest detriment from Bill Cosby was not what he did to the women. It was how he bashed single black mothers who were struggling to take care of their children. You know, I'm sure women when they lay down to have a baby with a man, Black women,

they don't intend on being a single parent. You know, they they wanted to work out, but sometimes it doesn't. And he was just on the fence about throwing black women under the bus. He destroyed Nikki Giovanni's career back in the day because he had that much juice. My joke on stage is always, Nigga, you should have just bought a slew of funeral homes. You could have got all the sleep pussy you on it. But you know he's out now, so maybe he'll hear that message and

by him like funeral homes. Does that mean no? But I am going to piggyback on said I think I have great empathy for uh, these women who finally came forward telling their stories. You you work up the courage or and unfortunately, I do think that those who are sometimes victim or victimized carrie shamee um and or guilt for something that was no fault of their own. They

carried this the shame and this guilt. So when you finally come forward and you tell this story, to not have it um honored and respected in the way you thought uh, justice would be adjudicated because you were told it would be. Um. That has to be just another blow and another another strike against women who often feel

like they can't come forward and share their story. So that's what I'm more in form I'm more in for that more than anything up I think to what happened, and actually my mom and I were having this conversation this morning. I think that the prosecution in Philadelphia knew that they couldn't get him, so they almost did what they did to say, he got some time and this is what we were able to give you, because I

really feel like that's what it is. At this point, they knew they couldn't get him, so they were like, let's get him in jail on a technicality. We know he's going to get out eventually through the appeals process, but at least we can give some of these women something because we can't give him the full stint of

what he really should be serving. So you remember, a couple of weeks ago we read something about he had been asked, do you want to apologize because this will help your appeal, and he absolutely stopped fast and said that he wouldn't. And it also taps into learn what you and I were talking about a couple of weeks ago before we went on break, that there is no such thing as canceled culture clearly, uh, you know, because

I thought he had been canceled, you know. And and and surely Bill Cosby is about to go back on the road, Laugh Factory and all the major places are I'm assuming if I'm a manager of a club, do you do you not book somebody who's going to sell off the venue. I don't know what you do, particularly after a year of not having anybody in theaters, would you know? I don't know what you do in that situation. Yeah.

And I don't think everybody believes that he's guilty either, because I even you know, I saw when you know, Felicia Rashad made her comments. I was looking on social media and looking through the comments section. They were saying, he's not guilty, She's right, all these different things. Now, I think people misinterpreted what Felicia Rashad was saying. However, you know, I really see that the perspective around his

entire case, it's very split. A lot of people don't think that he's guilty, or they think that these women came to him and were participating in the drugs and they were a part of the process. So it's really interesting to see that the audience is very split on whether or not, you know, Bill Cosby is guilty of what he's been accused of. How do you feel about that, Lauren?

When Felicia made her public statement and Howard how a lot of people and Howard were very offended with with what she had to say that she stood by her friend. I support her perstanding by her friend. Do you think that she should have publicly publicly said something to support him? And when the in the in the position that she is in at Howard, over the community, over the theater community, I think that her I think her statement was miss interpreted.

Because anytime somebody that I have very high regard for, like we all know, Debbie Allen's my mentor, that's her sister, so you know I've been around her, I've you know, I've interacted with her. Any any time somebody makes a statement that I may not understand it first or not agree with, I always want to go back and take

a second look. So after going back and reading her statements, I realized, I think what she was saying is from a legal perspective, this was a miscarrying or a miscarriage of justice, is what she said in terms of the prosecution, said you know, I'm gonna give you this immunity deal in two thousand five, and then you came back later and used it against him after saying he wasn't. So I think from a legal sense, I understand that she

what she was saying. But I think because she is the dean of Fine Arts at Howard, and because you know all the different layers that come with that, I think she probably should have clarified her comments a little further and she wouldn't have received as much blowback, is my opinion, because as I do agree with her from a legal stance, this was a miscarriage of justice. They didn't do what they said that they were going to do. It was illegal. So yeah, it's a very tricky situation.

It really is, it really really is. Its lor like Nikolas, if you did something crazy, you know you're still my friend. You know, if I do something crazy, you know I expect you to stand by me even if I'm wrong. And you say bit you know that was foul. You know you messed up, but you you judge me on our friendship, not because I didn't do it to you, but so I get that, I get how she stilld that. I just I knew they were going to come after her, and you and I talked about that. You said, oh,

she's feliciously. I say, they are going to tap on her asks about that one? Yeah, And I think that's what Howard was not gonna do. Let me be very clear, Howard was not gonna let Felicia Chard go, who is not an academic, who was newly to the staff. She had all kinds of cover. Has she been an employee for more than a year, It's been a very different story. Also, let's not forgive this is an HBCU. We tend to support our own, right, So it's been different. Had she

been at UNC Chapel Hill, Hello, Nicole Hannah Jones. Has she been at you know, University of Alabama? Has she been at any other institution? Um, it would have been a very different story. But because it is Howard, it is the champion U HBCU right, UM, I think that she was she was afforded a level of cover, um that may not have been afforded to someone else, had had she been one faculty member of any kind of tenure. Uh tenure time, been there, been there more than a

year where you've actually learned the ropes. This is her first academic appointment. So um, I think there are just a lot of things you don't know going into an environment where someone on the comms team may have released a statement for you or allowed you to. Hey, let's let's tailor it this way. This is still your voice, Flame, but let's say this to make sure we don't just dismissed women who may have been victimized, because I think

it came across as insensiitive. Plus, that's Claire Huxtable. I understand that that's Claire Huxtable. That is Claire Huxter, and I don't want to see nobody else ever play Claire Huxville. Jan gentlemen, it's our time, Monday, September the six White Party in Chicago at the uh Knock Turn forty eight and North Broadway. We're having the show. We're taking it back old school. If you're from Chicago and your new Flame seven. Because I'm watered down right now, can you drop?

Can you drop any of the special guests or not yet? Absolutely nice? Hold co hosted with Otis Mac and Ryan Carrell was the DJ because I ain't get nobody the money yet, so I ain't gonna name no names, God damnit. And the event bright link will be posted in Flames Bio. I just gotta build it. Once I get a flyer, I'll build the page and we'll start promoting it and everything.

It will be up tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, it will definitely be up tomorrow with the tickets will be on event Bright because I'm not waiting on y'all show the door. Because you know how we do, we black folks have, you'll know what I'm doing. Right September the nine to twelveth we will be in Washington, d C. At the DC Comedy Law September, I will be at the level up in Philly. I'll tell you about August in the minute because we got ship coming in. Lauren. Gotta tell

you about about Virginia next week. Virginia next area is a Solda show at Poor Girls in Hampton Road. So if you didn't get your tickets before, now you can't come. I might go laugh. I might not depend on. But Wednesday is a queen's birthday. You're turning right a queen born with a king's penis. If you want to hear more about that, you would have to join me at Love Lounge tonight right here laughs, between six thirty and seven,

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I ain't doing nothing my birthday because last year comment tifty gave me a big old straadway at his mansion, and since I can't, I'll do that this year because I ain't brother like that. I ain't doing ship. I'm going to Virginia. I'm telling you right now, I'm being here with you all. We might do an early lovelads before I get on my plane that night. But thank you guys for joining us. You can follow Nick Smith

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