Don't Get Slapped

end we leave it with just a lift spirits. Think you want to revisit, so your first take a list of your folks like slip all folks that we take it. You don't no fish do what you do. I can't no kids do what I do. Welcome to Laughing the Ladies, gentlemen. Hello, I am you're one of your hosts. I in Flaming Roll along with my partner. Hi. I'm here partner slash audio engineer that's fixing everything, la, ladies and gentlemen, And

we have been on the move. I'm sorry we haven't been in studio for like two weeks because we've been working. And we're back in Kinder's back and sky is here and you all are here, and the net, the Internet you Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram is on f I R E R R. We get to that, we get to that. Lord, where you've been? Lord? Where have I been? Um? I went to Florida. We kind of talked about that last week. I went to Florida, had a Florida Aids Wild concert

with Jesse j Debra Cox, phenomenal. Then I was home for forty eight hours and had to go to Vegas UM to do a site visit for an upcoming partnership we're doing for my other job with n A. B J, which is actually gonna be very exciting. And then I finally got to come home. And I've been home for like what to three days. It's been nice. We've been over look. I was in Austin, New York, Chicago. New York was fantastic. Austin was fantastic too. So everything is

going smooth. Now we're back in the studio. Kenda was here, Kendall saying hello to the people, y'all. K the voice that y'all had to hit him, the voice, y'all, y'all know that he's here, and we're glad that you guys came to join us today. Because everything is a globe but we're gonna start in Florida since Florid already talked about Florida, because you'll know we're gonna close, we're gonna start there. Well we might as well because you see in Florida. That's fine. We can start in Florida. And

so what happened in Florida recently? What didn't there, Well, there's two things that happened. We can start with what happened today and then we can backtrack to what happened last week with you know their dear old Governor Rohn de Santis um a k A. Patrick from Yeah, So, rohnd de Santis today officially signed um the controversial Don't

Say Gay bill. He signed it into law and tell the press conference around it and had preschool children and um like kindergarten children surrounded him and making them clap and applaud this bill being signed into law. So um, and that is from kindergarten to third grade? Great, yes, kindergarten to third grade, which is utterly preponderous, just preposterous,

It's just ridiculous. It is just not going to be a safe space for young kids who identify as something different from uh what you what we considered a normal So if they han't strange feelings and they have nobody to talk to, they have no outlet at the school it is, or or or a counsel or what have you, it's just gonna be fucked up. I'm laughing at Bobby Quiver said they had them with bodyguards. That was funny.

It's just ridiculous. But well, last week he also signed a bill into law requiring high school students to complete a financial literacy class before they can graduate, which I actually think is a good thing. Um, And that's why I'm a little concerned, like what's the real intention behind it? Or maybe it's a smoke screen because it's still Rhonda Santis, you know what I mean. So Um, although I think

the bill is going to be great. I think financial literacy should definitely be taught in school to talk talked excuse me. It teaches you about investments and how to balance a checkbook, even though we don't really use check books anymore, but just how to balance, you know, it's accounting different things like that teaches you how to invest. So financial literacy is very important and I think that great.

He's gonna it's a statewide thing that he did um, but I don't know if maybe he looked at some demographics in terms of you know, black and brown folks and realize that maybe you know all these people. This this demo is not going to really pass. I don't I don't know what the intention behind it is. It's something good, so it's got me a little weary with his track record and how scam artists he is. He just gave out something good to try to smoke screen.

Is something bad that he did because that passing signing that Bill said don't say gay Bill. That's kind of sucked up, kind of he just trying to balance it off. I believe that I do agree with you about financial literacy because I wish I had known more about financing when I was young. But like you, you can't do nothing for me now because everything I think now that you do has a plot or employ there's a there's

an overplay for the underplay. I don't trust you, so you fun my trust issues up, so I don't believe in you. And Florida I need you to follow suit. Don't believe it. But they don't say gay Bill. It's very, very scary because I know Texas is trying to do. But they stopped it in Texas, right, No, no, no, they stopped it in Georgia. Okay, And I mean and most we'll see how things play out, because most legislative sessions are like coming to an end anyway right now,

at least in the Southern States. Um. But it did not get any traction. In Georgia. They said basically said, hell, no, we're not doing this. I say, do y'all know how many gazes in Georgia? Good God? Well or that to ship? Um, it is tragic. And I'm telling you, if we're gonna march, if my compunity gonna march on that against that, I'm all in for that. I marched against that. So there's been several protests, but those are people from Florida. I'm

talking about. When the big wigs get involved and say let's have a rally, everybody come from here and there, from near and far, I'll go and march for that because that is near and dear to my heart, because that's the youth. And we need to try to really do as much as we can for Generation Z because you do know that Z is the last letter alphabet. Okay, what are we going after that. Well, no, I'm trying to tell you, like those marches have they've been happening

like but just for people in no, like across the country. Yeah, I ain't got the especially because you know Disney's CEO, Bob Chapac, I think that's how you say his last name. He came under scrutiny for his remarks. Okay, I'm sorry, my volume is a little low. Is that better? Well, because you'd be complaining to this too loud? See that, do be loud in my ear what I'm saying. That's okay, that's better. I can hear me. Can you guys hear me?

But no, the Disney ceo was has come under fire, and Gabrielle Union has actually come out and because she just did the Cheaper by the Dozen movie, she spoke out publicly against the Disney ceo. Help Raven Simone hurt. She had her whole cast and crew walk off um set filming behind because you know, basically, the Disney CEO said this isn't my problem kind of thing, and the Disney actually backed a lot of Republicans that sponsored the bill.

Well here's the thing. I said this before. There are some things that we should be fighting over, and some things that just as important to me as a part of the LGBT community. Uh, that is very something that we should be fighting for because it's going to help the youth. All that what bad froom. I can use a baby, if I gotta pee in you in a way, yeah I will. You will be a pissy as hell

fucking with me. So those are not that big to me, but this is very important because the youth need an outlet or the suicide rate is already high, especially during the pandemic when people really had nowhere to go and nobody to talk to. This is younger just gonna make

it explode. And in kindergarten you may not know how you identify how you feel, but by the third grade, you can know that you feel different from other little boys or little girls and you need somebody to talk to it, just in case you can't talk to somebody in your family or somebody your mother father. Because I hate to say this, but in the black name, in

the black household, I only know black. Sometimes it's safe for you to say that your ax murder or rapist than it is for you to say that you're gay or trance and that's screwed up, but it's the truth. I think it's a matter too of just have allowing kids to have outlets, you know, I think all kids should have, like a creative outlet. Kids should also feel like they can have a safe space outside of their house if they don't feel as so, it's a safe space.

So if you don't give you know, kids ways to express themselves creative outlets, different things like that comes out, setting them to fail, and you know what I mean, they explode. Speaking of explosions. Speaking of explosions, did we watch how fantastic those oscars was last night? We wanted the black Oscars and god damn it, we got it. I am not making jokes about it, because, you know what, we all see something different. Let me start with the

good before we get to all the other ship. Can I just say that Amy Schumer and Regina Hall and Wan the Psykes did a great job hosting UM and that Amy Shuman was just funny as hell to me, she really was the one that she was talking. I was like, we was a little shaky bout, but she really delivered as every gene. Oh my god, that joke that she did about the pandemic was She's pending all the fan being down. I thought that was hilarious. It

was good. I always knew Regina. I mean, like I said, I've seen Regina Hall do other award shows hosting them. She's a phenomenal host. She's funny, she's authentic, she's genuine. It always she always lands and whatever she's doing. But overall it was really good. Though it was it was over quest Love Want Oscar Listen. I was so happy for him. The events leading up to his Oscar win

was you know, a little wild. Um, I'm just happy he won an Oscar for a documentary feel about you know, the Summer of Soul, which was about this historic festival that happened in Harlem for black people, you know what I mean. This was probably one of the more diverse Oscars that I've seen in terms of award wins and overall representation. Just the you know, actual run of show was just beautifully done. So kudos to Will Packer. Um,

it was really good. Was a really good and that's who we cannot site put to the side on this. Will Packer produced this and this was the second time a black man actually produced the Oscars. The first one was in I think this was the first time. No, it was actually a second. I mentioned the guy's name, but it just didn't get a bunch of hoopla like Will Packers got a bunch of hooplah. And so we want to just acknowledge that Will Packer put on the

great show. It ran pretty much smoothly until the until the slap her around the world. But let's talk about the fashions. Lauren, who was your favorite dress? So my I have actually two favorites. My my top two was Beyonce and Laverne Cox. Those were my favorites. Beyonce, oh in the yellow. Okay, so my top two last night was not actually a lady who was not part of the Oscars, but she was on the red carpet. She was interviewing. She had on a black tulball down and

had like the ruising over the show. I thought that that was absolutely beautiful. And you know who else surprised me last night and I loved her dress, Rosie Perez in the Red. I've never seen Rosie so beautifully done because she usually you know, you been dressed though, but Rosie was beautiful in that readdress. I didn't I didn't see it, but I mean, I'm not surprised Rosie could always dress. I mean she was a little you know, um, she was a little bit of a thug missus, but

you know, she could always put an out. Last night, she was very classic lady. I did like the youth of Zendia with the shirt and the skirt because she had always come dressed. Because she's so young, and you know, she looks like a very young me when I was like like ten years ago. Don't say ship, just why she always got to say something. You know, they passed out slaps. I'm aboutready right now, speaking of slaps. So Chris Rock came to the microphone last night to introduce

or to present for somebody he was. He was the presenter for that segment of and he made a joke which was not very offensive towards what well, it wasn't very offensive, but I think it was the build up that he kept attacking it was very offensive. You thought it was very offencive. I thought that Chris, because I know Chris's record, and Chris can go there with material. But the joke was we'll see you at the next g I Jane movie. I didn't think that that was

very offensive. But if he has been making and jabs at Will and Jada for so long, and I think that it was a build up and Will just got up walked on the stage and I'm telling you, I had hit me a love lounge, lovely, So I was with God. So I'm looking at it in real Tamlin, and I'm looking at him like, wait a minute, am I tripping? Because I think I was really enacting it

in my head. I didn't think that I was actually watching Will Smith slap Chris Rock, but he actually slapped Chris Rock on Lave TV on at the Oscars and like to keep my wife's name out your mouth, And I was like, whoa. So when I was watching the Lab, they you know, they muted it and then they had a little interruption or whatever. They also had an interruption on Venus Williams because her nipple was showing. Whoever dressed Venus Williams, your stylus should be fired because that's the

double side of tape. That's real easy. As a star, you should know that. Uh, And everybody has their own segway about it. Everybody saying this, everybody saying that. Let me tell you how I feel about it for Lauren, because Lauren coming there a whole different way from me. Let me tell you how I felt about the situation. As a black person that is not his woman, that is not his baby mama, that ain't one of his sad pieces or his dips, that is his wife for

twenty years and the mother of his children. I understand how he felt. And Will Smith, as much as we want to make him a superhero and I am legend and all these movies that he played Muhammad Ali, He's an actor, but he's also a man. He is flesh and bone, and I think he had just had enough. And we don't know what kind of day he had had the pressure of the oscars. We don't know what Jada was going through with alopecia that day. I don't I'm not familiar with how alopecia affects people period, so

we don't know what was going on. But the fact that black people keep saying or why he had to do it at the oscars, why he had to do that they do it at the BT was if we're gonna hold each other accountable for the ship that we do, we gotta hold each other kind of before wherever we do it. And like your mama would tell you, if you show out on me, wherever you show it on me at I'm gonna show out on you. Baby will have had enough and he went to slept out of

Chris Rock. Chris Rock was professional, he kept his composure, He did keep his composure. But I love the fact that he defended his wife. He stood up for his wife. Now do I promote the violence? No? I do not. And as a comedian it makes me like, damn bitch, what can I or can I not say? But as a comic, you don't stick on one person. You stick

and move, stick and move, stick and move. Uh. Chris Rock wrote Jada and will for years starting with we know public if we don't know anything that happened privately. But I do think this will play out. And what what spoke volumes to me was had idea that because in my d lists they would have escorted me out the building, the mean fact that we will stay. And when they called his name to win the Oscar, which he did win the Oscar, they gave him a standing ovation.

That spoke volumes to me. And I know Lauren has a different opinion. I don't condone it. But I reached as a man, as a as a man who does not have a wife. That's why I never get mere because I want to defend nobody but the girl. I mean, I'm never offend nobody else, just me. I get it. Uh, come on, lawyd um. I think that Chris Rock's joke was highly insensitive and very disrespectful. Jada Pinkett has said publicly that she has alopecia, And for any of you

guys that are confused, it's not old age. She's not balding. That's not the situation. She has alopecia, which is the disease. I have family members that also have alopecia. It wasn't funny, It really wasn't. It was not funny, and for him to say that it was, like I said, it was highly disrespectful. He was wrong. However, at the same time, I don't agree with Will Smith walking up on stage and slapping him in the middle of the oscars. And truth be told, Will laughed at first when the joke

came out. I think when he looked at his wife and saw that she was offended by it and it hurt her feelings. And I'm sure they've had conversations about what she's going through in the insecure already's behind losing her hair because she said it publicly on the Red Table Talk. I'm sure when he saw her face, that's probably what enraged him and he was like, don't do that to my wife. I don't think that it was

necessary for him to go up and slap him. One thing that I learned is that saying nothing sometimes is much more loud than doing something. He could have given him the death stare of his life, and Chris Rock would have known when we get backstage, me and will

about to have words. That's how he could have handled that instead of it wasn't It was a night for him too, But he was also representing the Williams family, and for you to do that, not only did it discredit the work that they were a part of and their family legacy, but you also put yourself in a position not only to be sued for a civil lawsuit for assault because l A. P D Is now involved. I know Chris Rock declined to supposedly press charges, but

you just tarnished a really good night. It wasn't necessary at all. There's a time and place to to do everything want to talk about you mentioned will BET Awards, blah bla blah blah. Sorry, BT Awards and the Oscars. I'm so sorry. It's a different audience. And it's not even about oh, don't show out in front of white folks. That's not what it's about. It's not It's about the narrative and the stereotype and the stigma that's related to the black community and the fact that we can't act

right in certain places. That's what it comes down to. And there's a time and place to do everything. That was not the time and place. He could have had a conversation backstage and cussed Chris Rocks ass out behind that and given him the biggest death stare from sending his seat, and it wouldn't have taken away. It would have just added to his credibility as and asked um

an actor. It would have added to the fact that he knew how to keep his composure, and it would have just simple simply highlighted his work in West Philadelphia, born and raised on the playground was West and most I'm so sorry, and I've seen reports to that they're talking about trying to strip him from his oscar now, yeah, but you can never take the glory back. He's still one.

Even if they take the Oscar. You can never take the glory back of that night, and the ratings will be the best Oscars they had in aus I don't agree. That's the same situation when they stripped Reggie Bush from his Husman Trophy. I'm sorry there. That's they're still talking about that we can take wards away from people and that causes you to discredit your career. I think this will forever be a stain on his career. Will Smith is worth of a four hundred million dollars. I'm sure

he don't give a damn. And the fact that the the the fact that they still stood up for him when they call his name after the fact, I'm telling you, Hollywood is not down with Wheel and I think that this will be a great launching pad to reintroduce um Chris Rock's career. It's not like his career had win anywhere, but he had been a little low key for a while. This will be great for him because they may end up Hollywood gonna bank off for this. They may make

a movie in the next two or three months. They make made Bad Boys four and Chris Rock gets to smack Will Smith in the movie and all this forgiven. You know what I mean, Lauren, think you know how Hollywood. You work behind the scenes in Hollywood. I know I get that, But I'm just saying there's a time and place for everything. Like I said, this Rock was wrong

and so was Will. They were both wrong. They both were. Yeah, And I still think Chris Rock should apologize to Jada because I'm not trying to pull the black women card, but I'm about tom. It would be nice if we stopped going after black women's appearances in public spaces. And it was a black man, black man's wife in the room for the white folks, it was not appropriate. But

do you think that Will should apologize to Chris No? See, now we agree on that because everybody was like what he apologized to the Academy exactly, But why don't he apologize to Chris Chris an apologize after he got slapped. Chris could have said, oh my god, I'll stay off your wife. I'm sorry. He didn't. I think he was a little shook up. He was a little dazed, real talk, But if he would, he should have apologized publicly first, and then you know, but he had already went. I

don't think that he needs to apologize. I just think that he and he showed his ass. I'm sorry. I just he was not necessary for him to do that. You know, we woman in that audience and including the game, me and baby, everybody, Pennies in the underwear was so away because I've seen a lot of people supporting him and saying that you know, they've and and I will definitely acknowledge that them as a couple, they have been through a lot. They've been through a lot, and I'm

sure they're like, we are tired of it. We're at the end of our rope. So he might have just lashed out, you know, emotions might have been running high. But still, dude, like you even told when we talked about this last night, he was like, you know, he is one of those prominent black figures in Hollywood. You still not to say, you have an image to protect, but you're still a role model to a lot of people. And it's not to take away from the fact that

he's human. Yes, we are all human. And I know, men, when it comes to your wives or your kids, y'all are the brigade. Like when when some jumps. You just know it's about to be a problem. Same thing with my dad. My dad mild done the same thing had he been in the situation. But still, like you, just there's a time and place for everything. And it just wasn't it just it wasn't necessary. You can say so much without saying anything. I love the Will was bothered.

Will went to several parties after the fact with his wife and hung out and to his own music at the Vanity Fair after party. It was I thought that Antifoty had it. She gave the greatest statement. She she thought a lot of women, a lot of women black, white or indifferent. Well, we will look at that like I wish my man, my husband will stand up for me like that. I agree with you. It could have went a different way at a different venue, and it could have been handled a different way. But you just

said it again. Lord, nobody knows what they went through. They've been publicly out. The Verne just put him on blasts a few weeks ago. They've been all over the media. Right, if the connection that would have been her, she might have got we Will. She about biggest Will, but we all had took baby. He went straight Muhammad Ali Ali boom.

I'm telling you right now. I went live immediately because I was, however, edible, and it just I wasn't shocked, So I only imagine because when we was walking to Chris Well almost had like a smile smirk on his face. He didn't look mad, like I'm walking up to you to punch. That's the worst kind. Yeah, that was a

sneak attack. Oh that was you ain't see it coming, YEA. Honestly, I would have been okay if he sat in his chair, looked at him crazy and then proceeded together, keep my wife's name out you, I would have been That would have almost been acceptable. You didn't have to put your hands on Chris Rock. Oh lord Jesus, I want to host the Oxcars next year. They had three women this year. They need the he she wee. That's three people next year.

But I promise you I might opening joke gonna be Oh, I ain't said that about nobody's wife my boxing skills, ain't you know? My ignorant is gonna say some offense but fun and I'm not. I'm not holding christ Speed to the fire now that in my holding wheel. I hate that this played out as us as a black people. Well I'm I'm not hating on this as black people, but Chris Rock, as a comedian, you got to know you have to stick and move like a boxer. You can't just rad one person all the time like you

in the room. You never know what somebody's day is like, what somebody is going through in their personal So even when I'm on stage in the room, for if I get one joke in with one person, I'm going to turn around and make it funny because I don't want you to be offended and run up on me. Now, as a comedian, this scares me because now what can we or can we not say that's going to trigger somebody? No, no, no, I don't agree with that because it's about being a comedian.

Do your research. I'm so sorry. That's party all's jobs. Well, I'm good at self deprecation, so I don't even go at the audience. I'm better with me. But I'm not saying you specifically, But I'm just saying being a comedian, part of your job is to read the room and to know you know, if you want to go after somebody,

do your research. You know what I mean. That's part of you guys job so Crispin in the game too long and y'all got past history with the Smiths of you coming for them even in it was a click where he came for both Will and Jada talking about Will. You wasn't even invited to the Oscar So Jada, you need to shut up like it's been brewing. I think it was the twenty million dollars statement that got Will Well. I summarized that there was a couple of digs, you know,

in his some of his past commentary. But I'm just saying, you got to do your research and if you won't, and I would assume that there's acquaintances, maybe friends. Chris was on Fresh Prince of bel Air, shure, they've known each other for a while, So why are you coming for her? Why you've been off the scene for a minute. It's so much more that you could have talked about.

You love to say that you politically savvy. You could have went politics, you could have did something anything, But she had to go for Jada really and her hair being bold, and I mean, I'm sorry, I can't look beautiful. Let's say that she did. She looked gorgeous because everybody can't shave their head and look cute. Let me tell you, I was having very back backflashes of stony. Remember she was just who I was in the house, rubbing on myself. Yeah, I mean. And people want to say, like, you know,

he's not watching Red Table Talk. Okay, sure, but I also don't believe that he lives under a rock and don't know that she got issues, and I'm assuming that their acquaintances friends something like, I can't believe that. I'm sorry, Yeah, you get information about celebrities. You're not even looking forward, right, And I don't like the fact that people everybody is attacking Will. Baby. Will is flesh and bone. He is

only a man. He is not a guy. We have seen him and be the Hollywood black Golden boy and making all these great movies. He says the right things, he does the right thing his career. You never hear much scandal about him. But he is still just a man. He's human, and he has emotions. And we don't know what this pandemic has how this pandemic has affected everybody differently. We don't know what his life was like in them two years that he was stuck in a house or

whatever he was doing, we don't know. We saw him out vacation and all that before the pandemic, but we don't really know. And this pandemic has affected everybody different. He could have been at an emotional balling point and last night was just the ice and on the cake and he snapped. I think this is just my opinion. I think he probably saw the hurt and disgust and Jada after the joke was made, and that's what set him off. I think that's what it was, because he,

like I said, he laughed at first. I saw the camera when the joke came out, Will laughed, and then when he saw he looked at Jada and he was like, she rolled her eyes and was like she gave you the black woman at the welfare of We're gonna that she did and it's like once that happened, Will was like, oh no, like you heard her feelings, I gotta go say something or better yet, I gotta go do something.

And I'm telling you I was so taken aback because because how we know Will Smith's character is and who he is as an acting where he portrayed publicly to us, I never thought he would have just went who the girl? What he did? I was like, oh, the words of t J. And I clutched my pearls, the ones at the top and the ones at the bottom because I'm not gonna lie to Chris Rock doesn't have a strong chin.

Can we address that too? Because I thought that Will Smith punched at first, and I was like, there's no way that he punched him and he didn't even like lose any part of his equilibrium. But then everybody's like it was a slap, and I was like, okay, because I was like this, whoops, but just not punched because the words was a little twisted at the day he slapped the personality that let's go on to he was,

he was definitely a little disheveled and discombibulated. I think he was like felt like I felt because I was in disbelief, Like you actually slapped me, like I couldn't believe what I was watching, and then for it to happened to you from this person at this venue, went in front of all these millions of people. That was probably shocking to him, but he did handle itself. Well. I'm not going to say that I would have did that.

I let me just be honest. I'm yeah, oh, I know, that's what everybody's saying to I'm surprised that, like the whole fight didn't break out on stage because I don't know. I don't know about you, but I feel like it's a little more disrespectful if you slap me. I almost rather you punched me, because the slap just feels like you're just calling me a bit, you know what I mean? Do you feel the same way. Just don't touch me

at all. Just don't put your hand ends on me, because I'm telling you, I don't care where we are, who we're in front of, and who's watching. This is only a job. I am a person. Do not put your hands on me because and and the gangster Pat, let's talk about the gangster part? Was it? When he did it? He turned around, adjusted his vest and walked away like I dare you do something? Turned this back to him, but he almost like smiled though who will Smith? He had a little smirk on his face and walking

up and walking back. But anyway, let's bring in some of the good old flamets and see what they think. Very bad? Uh, where's Bobby Clifford? That's what I want to talk to hey, Cassie, Cassie, you want to get slapped? Absolutely not, absolutely not. And I feel like that was it was a gangster move. Um, you know, like you're not gonna keep talking mess about my wife. But I also feel like there was a time and a place for everything. So I'm kind of like stuck in the middle.

Hey mommy, Hi, guys, I want the white woman's opinion. We need the white woman's opinion because Bobby, Bobby, did you get turned on? Because I know dame what's the old broad named? The actress name? What's her name? She needs h what's her name? Yeah, she missed a few teeth, but I know she was turned on, like hey, because good guy. It was so gangster when he did. I was like, oh, I never looked at well like that. But damn I was disappointed. I mean I really was disappointed.

I thought it it took away from what what was going to accomplish. It took away from the night. This was our most diverse Oscars ever. We had LGBT, we had deaf people winning, we had it was a wonderful night. And I don't think it was an instant. I don't know if his wife kind of prodded him on because it wasn't That was a long ass five seconds to get from his seat to get all the way to Chris Rock. The whole time he could have been thinking of something. I would have got him in the BA

from later. I would have, but to go up in front of thirty million witnesses now, so I'm like he could say, oh, I didn't know I was. I was disappointed because I also feel like we um lead by example, and I think so many people look up to Will Smith because he is um, you know, the gold standard. I was a little disappointed. We teach our children not to put their hands on people when they're frustrated, and well, we know, but that's what we teach them when we right,

I would agree with that. My mother taught me to never lose a fight and if somebody touches you, to whoop their ask. But yes, I'm sorry that so that would have been Chris Rock's position, and he handled himself. I thought, like the consummate professional, because if anybody slapped me, I don't think he thought that was I don't think any of us. I thought it was fake at first, right, I thought you just stated um, And then when I saw him get kir fluffled, you know, trying to do

the next but just for a pause. Then he made a joke of it, so I thought he handled it beautifully. That's just girls the pan. You've got two other girls. Hello, Hey, So first of all, this screen name Extra Crispy and Extra Wet. What is your name? My name is Kirby. I'm one of the Aunties and I'm one of the hosts of Crispy Extra Wet. So it's a it's a wing reference. I'm from Atlanta, b You know, flames followers be a little nasty, so I gotta verifying double. Yeah.

I think it's about you know, lady parts, and I mean that could be extra Crispy or extra wet, but I'm talking about my wing order, which is typically money Guard ten brand sprinkles. I might have to stop buying some food absolutely, I'm making right now. What do you what do you think about the situation? Well, while you know, we don't condone violence or anything like that over here, are definitely not doing that. But they're just some realities

around respectability politics that we have in white spaces. Respectfully, um could have been have handled, could have been handled differently, could he have taken you know, Chris to the back and had a conversation and had a deeper situation. I know for me, if it was my husband, I would have rather him got on the mic and embarrassed Chris.

That way, I would have dug into the fact that Number one, you couldn't protect your marriage or your wife, which is why you're divorced, because you didn't have the discipline to keep you dick to yourself. Number one. That's the first thing that I would want it will to say on your number two talking about that history of the conversations of you joking with us and messing with us since sixteen. I'm pretty sure these people have relationships

outside of these particular spaces. Hey, y'all, we had to come back. Instagram doesn't like us, so it'd be a problem. They give us an hour and Jan yeah, c Jan love her. She's been so consistent with Joe. Oh there, you are, all right, finish your point. Yeah. I don't know what I was saying, but I think you know, it was exciting, and I do people do believe that people need to hold something in your secret drawer, you

know what I mean? You got everybody telling everything and I'm like, why, you know, I don't even know what useful information that is to share. And oh, Regina did get a joke off on them earlier that evening about possibly having Will checked. But Regina, but Regina is a woman, and Regina didn't constantly and consistently go after no, no, no.

I wasn't saying it was a bad thing. I'm saying every time they go somewhere, I'm sure they get this gut feeling we're getting ready to be the butt end of somebody's especially at the Laverne Cox weren't there, and she shouldn't have wanted to do that. Yeah, but I think too though, like with Regina joke, though it was more I think it was more lighthearted. It didn't come across as like I'm trying to take a jab at you, Chris. Chris. Yeah,

rehosts were wonderful. I had no about what Regina said whatsoever. But I do think that, you know, when she said that, sometimes then everybody feels like my joke is gonna be equally as funny. And I can say this and I'm Regina was very tasteful. Yeah, and it was funny. She was just admiring Will as a man. That's just saying how attractive people was as a man. Just like when Amy Shelling made the joke about Jennifer Lawrence and said

she gained a couple of pounds. Ain't nobody in in a frenzy about that because it wasn't offensive Chris Rock like like like Lawrence said, like Kirby had said, you have to read the room, and it was it's too much for Chris Rock is politically savvy. He's known for his political savvatiness. You could have went you could have went at all. You could have went to politics. You could have went to something else, to the state of

the world. You could have joan, don't bite anything. You could have talked about how black the awards was in a positive way. But I chose to go low. And Michelle Obama said, when they go low, we're gonna hid and she should have said, when they go low, we slapped the shot out you. Yeah, that's what happened. That's just what happened. I don't have a I don't have like, I don't sit in a comfortable spot where I can say, oh, that was so bad. Will has already recovered. Um, Chris

has already recovered. I do like um Will's team because they immediately started rewriting his acceptance speech and they had him pulled together. Do you hear me? So? I mean the money to do and that's all that was. As soon as as soon as he went up there and slapped that man, they didn't wait for a phone call and say do damage control. They immediately went into, well, well that's what they get paid for, that's what for. Yeah, I'm applauding, don't pay the phone call. I tell anybody,

you're being a self starter. That's that's what you're supposed to do. So I it's it's uncomfortable, um but you gotta qut sham. That is true too. That is true too. People were talking about, well, Denzel would have never done it. I was like Denzel fifteen years ago, y'all say it someth about Pauletta. He would have aired that whole entire building out. And please don't play like that, you know that. I don't think it was a blemish for black folks at all. Uh. It was. It was an incident, just

like other things that happened. They don't carry any major weight in the black community. It was an incident. You know what I mean. If I see somebody acting a fool in the grocery store and don't have nothing to do with me, and half the time, I'm not gonna lie tell you the status that the smisson on. I don't know if Hollywood perceives them as black anymore all the time, Well maybe not, not sure he did. He

does get that, he does get the past. But if he approached to pay us as being too cocky, they deal with him too. M hm. You know, all these comparisons have been somebody white. It wasn't somebody white, it was it was or something all that. What he he has slapped the white man, the white man tried to kiss them in the mouth. He was, oh, yeah, yeah, this is not actually, this is not actually behavior we

shouldn't expect out of Willard Smith. You know what. And I don't have any preconceived notions because I don't see these people as personal friends. That they're there entertainers. They're supposed to project what they want me to see to keep them in their money making roles. So I don't know, you know, that's just tim you know what I mean. And I don't know because I was raised wherever you actor.

That's where my mother dealt what you with. So you know, I definitely have been dropped through out three a couple of times at Sam's clubs. I want you this is This will play out though, on the on the other side for Chris Rock, because Chris Rock has been low, real quiet with his career, Lady, this will be something major for him. This is going to turn into dollars nonsense. But I think I think he actually just released a special on Netflix. Well this is gonna ratings, right. I

think he literally just released another special on Netflix. They popped up in my little Can somebody slap me please? I need a new Netflix special list that I got into my purse. I remember flying from Chicago, you know, round to get real windy Benn slapped all the way around the world six degree well the world and yeah, okay, I can't find my comments since I've just I don't know as human beings as as as just people not know not even color. Everybody has a breaking point. It's

it's only so much that anybody can take. And this has played out publicly for such a long time that it just it erupted. And I hate the way that erupted. I hated it happened at the Oscars. I hate that we finally wanted the black Oscars, and like Herby said, it was so diverse. I love that Arian came on, what's her name came on and she wanted. She talked about being a woman of queer experience and being accepted and woo, and we are making such huge strides. And

I agree with you, Kirby. I don't think this was not a blemit sh on black people. I just think that it showed that some people are human. Will Smith is fucking human. Everybody has emotions, everybody has feelings, and I think he was offended that his wife's feelings were hurt again publicly, and he just feel like he had to do something about it. You can hear the Carl Thomas in the background. I'm emotion hate that. Go hey.

You know for the Music Awards, rockers have got up there and and purposely as the group accepted there uh in their acceptance speech and done very damaging things with the intent of doing and saying damnaging things. So making Gervais, Yes, soot wild things. We'll shoot. The Grammys is next weekend, so I guess we might have an exciting show too. So who's hosting Trevor Trevor Noah is that's why Kanye has been banned respectfully, that's probably not gonna be that funny.

I love you, Trevor. I love you, baby. I don't know. I like Trevor Noah. He has political he's humor. He doesn't make me goose. He makes me laugh though with his political commentary, especially when it comes to race and ignorance when it comes to white people. Oh, he makes me laugh. That's that's what I'm excited for. Yeah. Actually, I think he's gonna do a job. Can we talk about my boss, Tiffany had who was bombed on the

three carpet? Did you see her? Check that reporter? She said, this is a gown, this is this is do and gabana. This is what's successfully. I say, get that bitch said, how would you feel? What would you want your husband to do? That little lady student answer her question, I was I told you every woman and gay men in that audience pennies and underwear was soyots and man I was at home. Man, both my drawers and my pantis was with I had to hang up on flame. He

was getting a little too graphic. Baby, we all head did it for me. I was like, oh, I may not be legie, but that damn sure you want to be in that bedroom, good guy. I love what you said jenn and about it's not a blemish on the black community and we have to stop accepting everything that somebody else does because they're part of our nationality. That was that has no responsibility on me. That has no responsibility on me. And if I get the opportunity to do that, I would hope that if I'm put in

that situation that I would not react the same. But I am a person, I am a human, I am flesh and blood. I am not a god, So I don't know how I would feel. So every everybody given a coming of what you would have done, you don't know what you would have done because you don't know what he was up against with the emotion of the oscars. We don't know what jay. I don't know the effects of alopecia. Maybe she had a bad day, maybe they had an argument before, maybe he was in a bad place.

Who knows. But like Laurence said, read the room and something, you got to know it's off limits or you're gonna get your handed to. Chris is not the one that's got to hold Jada when she was crying about that at every night. Chris is not the one that I had him long conversations or deal with Jada coming out of therapy some days crying about the fact that I'm losing my hair. And this has been something that has been a part of two flames point my beauty and

my vanue throughout my life. Chris ain't got to deal with the possibility that Jada may lose her libido sometimes because she is feeling insecure and so down about that situation, and her and Will can't even get to the business when they want to be what I'm saying, you gotta be thoughtful about those things. There's nothing wrong with making Joe said, nothing wrong with the comedy, but you've got

to be thoughtful about those types of things. And maybe, again, like I said earlier, because Chris couldn't protect his own family and marriage and the sanctity of that and didn't have the discipline for it, maybe he don't understand so that he didn't he didn't quite catch the memo in that particular moment, I will I will say one thing that might be good for for comedians across the board is maybe just stop attacking black women's beauty and y'all wos just don't we have to get the rappers for

court talking about us in the meaning ways. I don't know those people listen on one step at a time, one seven time. First of all, let's talk about the fact that most of the rappers can't handle the women that they think that they want in the black community. Let's say that, let's go ahead and have that conversation the women, y'all think that you can handle that, you won't a ride or die somebody who's independent, who got their own money. Blah blah blah blah. Most of you

all can't handle us anyway. So that's by the time, I don't even listen to what we're talking about. And the other thing is that they're emotionally unaware and immature, So halfy time, if you check them about some foolish this in real life, they get all them teenage emotions and start acting up on you. So I don't as far as I'm concerned, those types of famous black men that rap about the foolishes and the white boys do the same thing. They don't exist to me. They're not

a part of the community. I don't know those people. That's why all mymy and gavaginas. I'm just gonna call all my Mey and gavaginas. It's just easier to deal with. Well. On that note, this has been a robust conversation. Yes, and before we leave, ladies, before we leave, I just want to give a prayer for Will and for Chris Rock and for Jada and for any comedians out there

that I know. We sad with this way that way, but we have to be a little more leery about what we're doing on stage because as you can see, they're not patting people down when they come to the comedy clubs. They're not patting me. They're not going through mental detectives. You might mess with the wrong person and this could be very, very bad. So we have to be just to thank you, more cautious. And I'm saying that with my mouth. But if you ever see me laugh,

I discredit me before I discredit anybody. I am self deprecating because I make it fun for me. Um some ship. Yeah you you you gotta rewrite or you gotta re say in a different way. Because I would have been like, oh, girl, you're giving me stoney from him so hard. He looked like Pookie from New Jack City. It was bad. Did you see those girls? You remember the cartoons where the stars and the moments were girl, I saw all. Yeah. I still thought his chin was strong with his chin

was strong. But what helped hide that is because he's dark, complexed. Believe father, God, we come to your body, Ben, but not broken. That sounded very racist. Jay'st Maybe it's the color is comming. You know, he's dark, and we didn't get the visual with that. But believe me, just slightly swogling as well. I was like, yeah, you've been shook. You know. It's a bad thing, but I'll never want to get hit that hole. Great but outside of that,

great job, willpack wonderful oscar. It ran smoothly. I love that they over to see everywhere, of course, but I love that they had a host that they had hosted segue and control and drive the train because I hate when they don't have a host. I like when they have a host to drive the train. And I thought the ladies were good. I thought Schumer, who I didn't want to be there, she did the next same, same, same. She was great when she when she came down and

that Spider Man suit. I was like, oh girl, you got some you know, a little funny today all babies, but that was that was the biggest Spider Man I ever seen. Good sper Man she w was talking about Jennifer Lawrence had a couple of pounds, she lost some weight. You know, life be hard. But she had a baby. Jennifer Lawrence, Yeah, she did have a baby. I'm talking about uh, be sure had a two year old. I didn't know that. He's close to three. He's that was I didn't even know she had a baby. Had what

I do with congratulationship. She made a joke about it. She did look good for one year too, well almost three years. But hey, next year, Oscars, you need a person that's fair, that's on both sides of the fence, and that is inclusive. Guest, Yes, yea for the Oscars y'all campaign. Yes, wait till you see the gowns I wear. Oh my god, you have to cover some things up. You have to cover This is why I don't work with her. Y'all took her. I gotta cover some things up.

You can all on my shoulder just flame. Don't wait that you can't do it? But am I helpful? Am I not helpful? Exactly said it was? No? Thank you? Thank you. If I slap Lauren, can I a woman, I'm gonna I'm not gonna lae to you. I've seen some of those beautiful heels that more aware. You better be careful, you might. I never lost the fight, okay never, and you know she car shotguns. I ain't. Points will fly tonight, ladies, thank you you have all made this

a great show. Thank you so much. Thank you everyone for joining. Thank you man. We appreciate you joining us at Laugh and Learn, because here at laugh and Learn, what is our model, Lauren Hogan? Here and Laugh and Learn? We have a saying that we are not trying to get anybody to change your mind. We are simply trying to get you, guys, to use your mind. And in order to use your mind, you have to have your mind. And if your mind don't work, a good slap don't

do thet No I'm not. I'm making jokes about it, but I promise you please don't go promote violence because anything could happen. No, something could happen. But tragically it's bad, but sometimes something times there is no other way. I agree with that. Okay, let's see we can agree on that one and laugh and learned. We want you to use you man. Thank you Kendall, Thank you Flas for

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