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Black History- Our Reality

Feb 18, 20211 hr 22 minEp. 14
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Flame , Lauren, and Nick, discuss Black History. The Flamettes share their personal experiences with taking the COVID vaccine. Dr. Bae makes a surprise visit to discuss why he recommends everyone should receive a COVID vaccination.

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Lame he laughing. If you watch Coffee Time too, baby, you know the name Flame, my role also known as my role Flame. Come in with last and come in with Jim love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homed, what's up? Tip? Yeah you know?

She ray shot towns On speaking to the grown. And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the end we leave it, which is a lift you spirits think you want to revisit, So your first take a listen, jill, folks, lif all folks that we dig it. No do what you do, No do what you don't, No kiss, do what I do. Welcome to Laughing Line. Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, good something. It's good everywhere because guess what I looked good at? Smell good,

get touched me. Oh, thank you guys for joining us here at Laughing Line. Today we are it's a different look today, but the same show. That's all different background, same foreground, which is play my role Lauren Hogan and Nick Smith. So let's go with it. It's black history, mind, and we want to start off with some black history tangibles. First of all, we want to start off and say happy Happy Valentine's Day to all you people. Yesterday was

Valentine's Day? What did you do Valentine's This ain't love laugh. I can't tell y'all, but I understand that I might not have gotten no hearts because I ain't in love, but I got all the other stuff that comes with being in love. What we can say, what was the title of Love Loud last night? You might not be in love, but at least you're fucking Okay? That works. And guess what I was doing yesterday, y'all lots of it. Okay, what did you do? That's a better question. What did

you do about? I didn't do anything, really, I have my speech workout. Was always do to take care of it. That was. I'm just saying this to the hundred and fifty three people that's here right now at sixty three. Lauren needs a boyfriend. Okay, let me tell you what the prerequixes is. I'm picking what she needs. Uh, Confident, tall, moderately handsome, getting, We don't want them too fan, he

too fan, he gonna be pretty. You're gonna have to whip his as because it'll be cheating on you moderately handsful and potentially and potentially you could be potentially turned into a beautiful swan. Uh. Successful and whatever you're doing in your career, um a full on man. Now what that means is you need to know who the hell you are. That's exactly what that means. Uh. And then you know you still gotta pass and describe the sniff test with me if I see any inclination of it,

I'm telling this. Oh my goodness, I think somebody's here. Finally I sawesomes in the comments, So I would love you guys, guys, I'm so or It's been a rough day. So how are you all? How was your Valentine's Nick? We we were were talking about it. It was looking about titties. Looks so be How was it was? Okay? It was it was good. I I you know, I just really had chance to sit back, relaxing and count blessings.

So things are good. Things are good. Well, we're in a different location, but it looks like you're in a different location. Are I am in Charlotte, North Carolina? Why are you in North Carolina? Nick? I got stuck? Flights got canceled on me, and I couldn't not get back. I went to Florida this weekend for a simple four day getaway, and then everything got canceled when it came. As soon as I left Florida, everything got canceled coming back west. So everything West and Midwest just shut down.

You went the wrong way, you were supposed to came this way, You went the opposite way you're supposed to came this way, and you would have been stuck. You've been right here to back. Yeah, uh, California is still west, but definitely I couldn't even get that way. Everything stopped in Dallas. You know, it's since they're no more direct flights. But you're okay, right, You're in the hotel, and every day you're okay. Flame Lauren, Flame mats everybody. I am fine.

You know, people have reached out to because I posted earlier about by flight being canceled, So I am definitely among the fortunate. I was sharing with a friend of mine. I said, I can remember the days in college where if a flight got canceled, you would have been sleeping in that airport. But God airport, Yeah, an airport God. And have tons of friends who do TV news here in Charlotte. So a couple of taking me out to

dinner tonight. So Nick is Nick is good? Yeah, I'll be all right, yeah, okay, okay, Well you know this is Black History months, so we want to start off were remembering some people from Black history. I'm gonna let you take that, and we're gonna have flames chiming on a lot of this because I said this morning, I did a prequel all coffee time too for you guys.

Homework was for you all to come on and tell us who, what, when, white and where because a lot of people go I noticed in black history because they don't even make the history book per se, but a lot of people know about because I didn't know French fries were created by black person. I knew the street lights was though to stop like, but I didn't know French fries. I knew peanut, but it was I know

was the sin it is. I don't know how they play mets and feeling having a hard time seeing you like I've only seen the glasses there we are, so I just need you to make sure, make sure to stay are I don't know if Laura was smelling good. I want to be all up on her. She smell like our sales and writing didn't bring me. Now, I'm just saying, place that I go to, I didn't bring her a plate. That's just shade they would have kept overnight. I'm just saying, you know, asking for a friend. Can

you tell that I have on no makeup. I'm just going to say this. I continue to be impressed with you, and I know that we are going to go through this in our hot topics as we moved to the show. But I was one of the hundreds who tuned in this weekend to catch you in the burlesque show for HP and the International Condom Day campaign and Flame, You're fantastic just watching you move and do what you do. And it's so funny because I'm like, wait, but that's

still my flame. But this is a whole different players. The level of professionalism, just the way you move, the way you engage. I thought it was absolutely fantastic. We felt like we were Did you guys watch the international kind of the campaign? It's on YouTube right now too. And that's how I met Lauren Hogan. I met Lauren

last year because she was over that. She still works for HP, but she's not in that department, and she was over and we were on the road and we had a great time bonding and those kids were so let's talk about those dances. Those kids are professional, so nice, all young, all younger than me anyway, and Arthur Robinson and all the people involved, everybody just worked it on. Now, Sarah, it was it was great. Thank you again Michael ain't Stein and HF four bringing me back one more and

again for another successful show. If y'all want me next year, y'all have to come a little harder. I'm just let y'all know I'm answer. But thank you guys for watching the show. It was free and it's for a great cause. And uh, I appreciate. I had a good time. I was in the heels for twelve hours, four days out the week. Yeah, I cussed for us talk plenty of ship. But the check clear from Michael Weinstein. Thank you, Michael Weinstey.

Michael Weinstein is the CEO of A's Healthcare Foundation's health Care Foundation, if you guys didn't know that, and he is officially and unofficially my Jewish husband. There you go, there you go. Let me let me tell you why though he's unofficially her Jewish husbin because the first show we did, Flame went and sat on his lap. They

had a moment. So that's why there was a part in the show that you all didn't see from the live where I had to go around to collect money for donations for HF and I said, I can smell money, and I had never seen or met Michael Weinstein. I walked straight to him because like I said, I can smell money and set right on his lap. And I've been an employee everything placy. That would suggest that maybe your curves and vivaciousness is what gets you employed. It could be all the way he all the way gave

my curves and vivations. Thanky shipped for him honey truck. Last thing before we move on. Also, since last week, your queens are back, correct, uh mad Maddie Maddie and playing in Cathy. You're gonna suck up my movie before the show even get started. Take you out and bring you back. You messed up, ridiculous. No, I know you missed up, and I'm glad everybody's back because last week you were talking about how they were still in the air, so at least they may back before the storm that

caught me. That would have driven you crazy had they been trapped out of the city someplace. So everything happens the way it's supposed to. Crazy. Now, Well, Lauren, I will let you know. I don't have my list in front of me today, so I'm gonna need you to time. Okay, thank you so much Black history, Nicklas, So you you tell us a black historian for you that that resonates with you and for you and why and give us

the Rosetta version cleared and to the point. Um. Last week, I mentioned Brian Gumble because I said that he was the first African American morning anchor on the National Show. UM, and someone had commented this, said, NICKI forgot about Max Robinson, and I'd like to recognize Max Robinson. Max Robinson was the first African American to do an evening broadcast. He did World News Tonight, which Peter Jennings ended up doing. So. Max Robinson was the first African American to do an

evening broadcast. Brian double was the first to do a morning show and uh and uh watching him, it was just, uh it inspired me to get into TV. That's about Black history moment. Uh, Lauren, what about you. Well, actually I brought this up to Flame because I thought maybe this could be a good topic overall for us discussed under the umbrella black history. I was recently watching Glory

this weekend. Very random, but I was watching Glory and of course everybody who's seen the movie with Denzil Washington and Morgan Freeman. Um, it's about the fifty four regiment Um in the American Civil War, and specifically they were the second black regiment Um in the military. And I thought it could be interesting because you know, we've had conversations about the military on the show. We've had some very honest conversation, difference of opinions, but also to um.

Godfrey was on last week and we were talking about black masculinity. So I felt like there was a lot of intersecting topics and idea is that we've had discussions on. Then I kind of wanted to bring it up. It is Black History Month, you know, we may hear about it here and there in terms of but I thought it could be a good topic for us to discuss in terms of the military, um, you know, what was going on at that time, and also to the black masculinity that was felt very threatened to a lot of

you know, people who were white at that time. So that's a good one. Well who I ain't got, nobody who I got? I watched Harriet Tubman this week. Harriet Tubman is my Black American choice because I officially believe

that Harriet Tubman was the first trans man ever. I don't believe that she was actually a trans man or that she identified as male, but they were looking for a young, a short black man that was helping slaves escape, so she couldn't have been the most girly looking, which worked in her favorite because Harriet Tubman's freed over a hundred and fifty slaves, so they were looking for a young man. They never knew that it was a woman. For a long time, they didn't know that Harriet was

a woman. And this is according to history, and according to the movie the movie sugar coated it a lot. But according to the record books, they were looking for a very short man. Harry was a woman with a purpose, and she was a black woman. It seems like black women have been saving the day for such a long time, which is probably why I aspired to be a black woman.

I'll go figure absolutely, Black women have been saving us for millennia, and I think that, uh, we all know that in many regards, you know, so yeah, definitely we don't need to look any further than this last if you ask me, the senators from Georgia, I think have a lot to do with the power and strength of

black women motivating the base. Well, we're gonna bring in some flame mystic and we want to know who what we're wearing why, because a lot of them gonna bring in that was at homework this morning to tell us about history black and his story is that we don't know. If I want somebody talk about who discovered Chicago? Do Sabo? Then he discovered Chica or he was the founders. He's considered the founder of Chicago. Yep, I bet you he found the south Side. I bet you he found your

driving and he lived there. He could even afford to live there. He found no damn south Side. He found it Lake Shaw Drift, and y'all took it over and made the rent you half for us to live there. I say what I say, Okay, we're gonna bring back all right, by bye, we created some ship. Then I can't afford people on your phone. She don't have android she got did you watch the Fred Hampton movie? No, who's coming on to tell us about some black history? Who's gonna? Oh? You know who I was having a

good conversation with this morning. Is he on here? The baby's daddy? Markey? Mark? He was telling us a yeah, Michael, But Michael was talking about his husband having a um taking the taking the back then, Yeah, I ain't taking no damn back sage ChIL Yeah, back with my Holley. Let me bring she's not going thing. I'm trying to get market man for you. What's his Instagram name? Market

cameras there. I'm just searching names at this point. Hold honestly, Mark, and he better have a shirt on because he ain't putting no ring on it. Let me tell you something, let me stall the titles, let me own it. I can guarantee you that that nig didn't put a ring around it quite a few times. Listen, I don't believe in marriage. We can't see you. We see a steeler from me. I don't want to get a having a shirt on. Can you hear me? Now? I hear you?

Just we come out here talk something. Bay ain't the husband he might not to put a ring on it, but I guarantee you he didn't put some rings around it. Now I married myself anyways, nigger, that's a script of I ever heard what you it's and Mike, and I know that you have uh like mark you mark you a mixture. You gotta hold you a muddy. You like all the rest of us. We all mutch for real. So what black history mains of you? Who? What black history?

Can you tell us about it? Because I'm about to ask you about this vack sage so that let's go to black history first. But believe it or not, I'm actually like you there, Urine. Where I was raised, black history was never taught. Um, it was never taught in my schools. I don't even have one memory besides obviously MLK,

of learning about black history. And I'll be completely honest, listening to T T and so many people on here has enlightened me so much more about black history and just sort of the real fight because you always hear about it, but it seems like when you hear about it from mainstream outlets or social media, it's always from like this really uh angry place or bitter place. Do you never actually hear it for what it is, if

that makes sense. So, um, I'm I'm still being educated and believe it or not, I personally don't feel that I even have the slightest understanding of what black people in our country have been through. Um, because I've never been I've never been once, I've never had anything racist throwing my way. Um. I've always been in circles of everybody. I've always Um, I don't know if it's just been

my my environment. But um, with that being said, who I am currently, uh, just in all of is the young woman and I'm having a brain fart who was the first the poet at the inauguration, who was also the Super Bowl. Yeah. She I mean like to me that her story and just who she is and the way that she is able to communicate via her art is just like I I sit there and I'm just like a like a little kid listening to a story time.

It's It's amazing and I love that she has been given this platform during this time in our country to read the message through a very serious way, but also through a way that people can easily listen and understand. Can I say that for the one year that you've been following me. That was the fairest assessment that you have ever given on this platform. And I appreciate you for that. And Amanda Gorman is not old Black history, but she will be part of this new generation's black history.

She has established herself as a historian. But Mark, that was the fairest assessment of you saying that you don't know Black history. And it's not ignorant to say that because you don't know. And I appreciate that a lot of people, a lot more people should look like and look at things like, oh, I don't know. I can't speak on it because I don't know. As opposed to jumping the gun. You almost lost your Megan McCain card today, but you see Megan McCain. They just let's understand to

what Mark is saying. I actually I agree with him because for me, and this is part of the reason why I encourage people, if you can and have the opportunity to go to ansorrectly Black college because tomorrow point a lot of the things that we learned in school, it's a very you know, westernized European version of history and what's actually taking place. And you know, nine times

in the time, you don't get the truth. So therefore, like when I went to Sting with you, guys all know, there was a lot of things that I didn't know. Even going to Georgia the first time I told you how I didn't recognize who Andrew Young was, you know. So it's very important that we have to, you know, educate ourselves and teach kids, you know, teach our kids the best way we can about black history and all the accomplishments that black folks have made in building this

country that we not North America. So I absolutely agree with you, Mark, you know. Okay, So that's one conversation to Mark. You Mark'll come, I'm sorry, baby, Come on? What was you about to say? Of comments? So there was some comments saying, well, obviously I don't care too much if I didn't know her name. I knew her name. The problem was all I had in my head was that Harriet Tubman was the first trans that that those comments are irrelevant right now because you talking to me

and Lauren. You're not talking to them exactly, You're not talking to them, You're talking about us. Let me tell you something. Those comments would throw you off. And people will always have something to say about what, who had what what? Listen to what he said that he was unaware and he was unfamiliar. That don't mean that he didn't know. Y'all know how many times I mess up names. I mess up names everything. I caught somebody the wrong name or say the wrong thing. Y'all know what the

hell are we're talking about. I really do mess up names all the time. And it is just a normal hiccup from being a human man when your mind is going faster than your mouth. So slow down and y'all take a cheer peal. Now, let's go to somewhere else. Markey Mark, because I need to tell you. So I'm gonna tell you what black history and I want you to study Markey Mark. I want you to study that Turner because Nat Turner was the beast baby that Turning said,

y'all ain't with me no more. I'm killing everybody that damn the Turner killed everybody, Mark very me. I wonder to see a trainee point up, because I know everyone else is gonna bring on old black history. Who obviously I know I know the standard, right, But my point was is that it's crazy that even today there are still black people making history. So we're not that far advanced as we think we are when it comes to, uh, the black story, if that makes sense. That was why

I specifically highlighted her. So again, pay attention to what I'm saying. Uh, there's other people who are going to be able to speak more educatedly on specifically. We don't worry about that. We're talking to you right now and we're getting on for that black history because they comments is gonna keep coming in because you know, they always feel like if you're not black, you can't speak on it. That's not true that you can't speak on and you

can teach other people that are not like you. Y'all need to open your mind, so open your heart and look at these But I do, I do want to say one last thing on what Marcus said though. I think that's something else that we do before we get off this black history tip. I think that's one thing that we do forget though a lot of time, is is that all of the civil rights and all of

you know, enslavery in those things. Yes, slavery was happened four hundred years ago, a little over four hundred years ago, but a lot of the civil rights and the activism in terms of racism that we're still currently dealing with.

It didn't happen that long ago. I was watching, Uh, I saw a video on Instagram about something that happened the only four years ago where there was this uh black these black kids trying to go down the street they were moving into this white neighborhood, and all these white calling in the N words and not letting won't need to let them ride the bikes down the street. And that just happened forty four years ago. So I think that's also something too that we forget oftentimes that

racism in America. Yes, it's so prevalent right now, but the real uh you know, deep with racism that our country experienced only happened less than fifty years ago. So and to that they was not born racist. Racism is a learned behavior. Somebody taught you to hate somebody else. It starts whoever raising you, whoever's house you in. It don't happen necessarily be your mother and father, who's ever raising you. Racism is a learned behavior whoever you surround

yourself with. So if you around surround yourself with racist, damn it, you're gonna be racist. Now, Mark, you brought up an interesting point this morning we talked about before you came on, because Mark's Podner, who is an accredited doctor PhD, took the vaccine and me and Mark, you know what I'm saying age about, we are not taking a vac thing. So how do you feel about that market? Market? Has he persuaded you to cross over? You go take

the you go take the needle? Uh? Yeah, No. So he's an actual medical doctor, so it's not he's he's been through medical school and he's a physician. So here's the thing. Um, I personally, again I've said this before, I feel confident in what I've been doing, and there's so much, um lack of trust. I just say with the vaccine that if I don't feel comfortable, I don't feel good after I was thinking about doing something, I'm

just not gonna do it, you know. Um. And and the real problem that I have with this whole thing is the logistics of it all. Um. You know, by who's the physician got his vaccine yesterday. They didn't ask for his medical license because right now only health care workers people sixty five and older are getting it. They didn't ask for his if he had an appointment. They didn't ask about his medical license. All he had to

say was I'm a doctor. Here's the other game. They don't schedule your second appointment right then the there, So you have to schedule your second appointment and hope that you get that appointment within the three or four week timeframe that is needed. So here's the thing. You're giving these people vaccines, not ensuring that they have a second one, not ensuring that they're scheduled for a second one, and

we're supposed to just be like okay. So the logistics of it all to me is the most alarming part aside from the actual vaccine itself. So there's just there's no convincing me. And again, I'm constant around medical professionals, medical doctors, UH farmer representatives, and they have tried to give give it to me in every possible way. They've explained the vaccine and I get it, I understand it, but you can't change my mind right now. And that's it,

because that's what I'm telling you. They were on my ass on on some of my social media platforms about me pushing this and I'm not pushing anything. My my, my my, my, agenda is never to make you change your man. My agenda is to make you think for yourself. Yeah, and also to actually a New York As of today, there um basically trying to allow more individuals the opportunity to

take the vaccine. So now, if you're between the ages of sixteen and sixty five, as long as you have pre existing conditions, they're allowing you the opportunity to take the vaccine. However, the issue is they don't have a supply, um, but they have people wanting to come and take the vaccine from age sixteen sixty five with three existing conditions. So you ready to take your Oh here's the thing too, you know, and and the part going back to I'm

a tie black history into this. We have an African American provider in the office, and you know, they asked her like, hey, do I need to get you signed up for the vaccine? And she said no. And he's like, can I ask why? And she said this Tuskegee experiment. So there's so much distrust and you know, this woman who's also a educated UH practitioner, she doesn't feel safe with it. And it's the it's crazy that if you

are a person of color in our country. You have the second guess our health care system and what they're giving to you. You know what Jack that markets. Everybody only reverts to the Tuskegee Air, to the ex experiment. But when I tell you, there has been so many experiments down on black people, on black women. They were making black women sterile on purpose so that they couldn't procreate.

I can't remember what. Mary and sim he was known as the father of guynecology, had a whole statue up in New York and Central Park and Central Park was also um It debilitated an entire village called Seneca Village. That's another Black history that we can talk about there too. But yeah, Jay, Mary and Sims to Flames Point was on as the father of gynecology, and he did all of his experiments on black women because black women could tolerate Paine versus you know, white women got the anesthesia.

So but anyway, go ahead. Oh I'm telling you that is just what we know publicly. So that's why we're here talking. Thank you, Mark. I want to bring them on because I'm seeing what they said. Mark. We're gonna bring this baby, and we love you. Mike, Mike and Marcus my baby daddy, y'all back to your point, just want I know you'll touch based on it, going back to since when of black people ever been first for

anything in this country? And now all of a sudden, wanting to give them that I went first to get my stimula check first, to let you I'll put that under my aunts. Uh be slam summer. We would like to bring you on because we see that you said that you just the vaccine, so we would love to for five days. I ain't got fat days to you. I ain't got fat days to give you. Yeah. I mean, it's like we said, we're not trying to get anybody to change in their mind once you guys to use

your mind. But also too, we see the comments of you guys saying, well, maybe there's another side to this, in another opinion. So this is somebody who actually took the vaccine. Let's see if they're able to come on and talk with us for a little bit. Look at me, y'all, Oh, I look rough and stuff with my afro pup. Yeah, somebody said that my makeup was flawless. Can I tell you thank you so much? Because I ain't got on

jet this is called wash face, no base. I want to talk about the teachers in school, because you know they're talking about opening the schools here March the first, and all the teachers don't have to be vaccinated. So somebody was asking me, do I think that teachers should be vaccinated? I'm talking no, that's their choice because just because your teacher don't mean that you have to get vaccinated. Baby. They got families, they have children, husbands, lives, all of that.

That it's ridiculous. Bobby Clifford, come on in here, tell us something. Tell me sometimecine to tell me how you how it did you? Bobby Clifford. Bobby Clifford, tipping me tells every day. I love you, Bobby Clifford. Are you tell us about this vaccinate you had it? I work at mash General Hospital in Boston, and um, they offered us the vaccine. It was up to us whether we wanted to get it or not. One of the reasons that they do that is because we don't have enough

data on it. So that I work with scientists, right, and they want to make sure we have the data. So if you wanted to get the vaccine, you could get the vaccine. I chose to because I have a special need sister that I care for, as well as an older mom. I'm the same age as you, flam, so I have an older mom that I live with exactly so well thirty one, let's not lie. So I chose to get it UM, and I was very lucky.

I have had no symptoms or anything from it. I will tell you that we had sent my mom down to Florida, UM, down to Naples to be with her sisters, to um kind of hang out and try to bypass this because they're insular down there amongst themselves. But she came home last week, got the vaccine. She didn't quarantine like she should have ten days and then get the vaccine. She got the vaccine two days later. She had COVID within three days. They did tell us because she's only

fluish that UM. They think that one of the reasons that her symptoms are lesser is because she did get the vaccine. We don't. Again, we don't know because it's not enough data. Well, how is she doing now? Who the hell knows? I don't go. I knocked on the door and say the food's outside of Lady, come open the door and pick it up. I'm not going in because I get the special need sister, right, so I can't. I can't take the chance. So we were able to take that off her plate. I have another sister, the

three girls. Um, but so I don't go in at all, you know, into the apartment. Um, she's only had it for a few days. She's losing her mind because you know, someone telling her that she can't go outside is she wouldn't go outside anyway, but you know the fact that we're telling her she can't go outside, she's losing it. But she's doing okay. She's sleeping. I would say she's sleeping out of a twenty four hour day. She probably

sleeps twenty hours. So that's how it's affecting it. You know, she didn't get it Chris cuomo ish you know those horrible hallucinations and everything that he got. Thank god. Um, she's got a little bit of a junkie cost. But so far, so you know, we're like five days, six days in. This is all we have, you know that she has. But you got the vaccine as well, though, right I did. I did so, I thought the vaccine I was I was supposed to get it again today

my second vaccine. I put it off because my son also works at mass Jermo Brigham and he's actually in the hospital for something aside. So just so we coordinated and we did it together. I'm gonna get it on Thursday, so I'll keep you guys posted. And how is the first shot though? Because you said you're getting your second one, so you know I I mean, I'm a beefy girl. So she put it on my arm and I didn't even know who was there. You know, I was waiting.

I'm like, are you gonna give it to me? She goes, So what's over? So I am nothing that day the next day, and I'm not complaining. This is if somebody asked me and then you poked me on my arm. It was a little bit sore. That's it. I didn't get it. I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna keep my eyes on you because this is how I know if you went crazy and not behind the vaccine, because you tipped me ten dollars every day. Every day she tipped me to dollars. If you start tipping me hundreds, I'm

gonna say something wrong with that, lady. If you started tipping the thousand and say they went crazy and I we were refunded. If you have the sense enough to act, But if you don't, I walk. I've last I'm working. Hey, the most exciting thing is you said, boobs out of my neck. Today, I'll be the happiest girl in town. I'll be popular, you know. And I love that you watched me. You've been watching me for a long time, and I'm telling you I have never pushed for telling

people not to take it. It is in my own site, in my mind. I'm not gonna take it because about instagram saying something, I'm sorry, Have you got? I actually got so. I've been watching you since the day after They Ready Was was released. I loved you when you weren't doing these lotses, when you were just doing your little five minute flips. And I got this arm thing so that I could put the phone upple. I work. But I look like I'm looking at the sky. I

also in the middle of painting my room. It looks like tin panale behind me. I don't you know a bit of a mouth, So sorry about that. Hopefully the luck will be better next time. Can you see it looks like that almost like a big big swatches that's where I had holes in my wall, so you can't even really see it on my end. Oh God, And you think you look cute until you're on this and you go, oh, no, not so much. You look great. You look great. Time I had you know, absolutely having

the best time watching you. I'm loving you grow and flourished flame. It's terrific and you as will, Lauren, this is a great opportunity for you. This is the wondering well. I want to ask you a question, Mabby, why I have you on here? Thank you? First of all, which black historian resonates with you? Christmas at it? So I love I did learn Christmas. So he was the first American to die for the flag. And he was a black, a black and Indian man, Indian being American Indian, I

just I guess I should first American. I'm sure I'm saying not politically correct, but yes he was. He was the first person to die. So he was my favorite favorite. I did something on him in like foth grade or something, and I just loved him. Oh girl, politically correct on work on this page, but I got I gotta dick and tities. I'm not even anatomically accepted I was trying first American. We are praying for your family and your

sister mom and everybody. You just stay safe. Let us know, keep us informed on what happens after that second though, because I've heard different stories from different people that the second those was a doozy, so you let me know, abody. I've heard that as well, so I am prepared. I actually rescheduled because I was getting it today with the Monday,

and I said maybe if I get on Friday. So if I am seck, I have like Saturday Sunday to recuperate rather than be sick the whole week and then lose pay, which I don't want to do either to cheapest dirt. Plus I have a lot of students. I got my master's later and I got a lot of student moms. Well, thank you, beautiful lady. We appreciate I appreciate it. Help me look at right there where is be slammer. I do want to we do want to come and talk to you, um because we see you

saying I've just seen it right there, go back. You see that your experience is a little different with right, a little bit more no that way, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, get me so blessed because me so blessed on lunch and they had the vaccine. Okay, because I've seen that functioning, me so blessed. You still on lunch? Come on with us because y'all see us me alone, were real close and we close. Don't we look like a picture? She's my older sister? Whatever? Hi? Lauren? Hi? How are you?

Can you? Guy? Tell me? Okay, I'm at work? So hi? How I claimed? I watched it on Saturday. It was wonderful. I loved it, Thank you, thank you. I watched it with my nephew. He's seventeen, so it was a good icebreaker for a safe sex talk. Great, that's great to hear. The hypocrisy of that show is it was a safe sex condom campaign. Some some I an't used it. Probably about anyway you wanted to bring you on because we're talking. We wanted to talk to a couple of people who've

actually taken the vaccine. Um, So what was your experience like? Oh, no, I didn't take the vaccine. Look you had taken the vaccine. No, no, no, I haven't taken it. I'm not going to take I don't plan on taking it. Okay, So tell us why I don't trust it. I don't trust that there's not enough information. People are dying from getting it, people are passing out. Different things are happening, and we don't see it all in the media. But I don't trust it

at all. Okay, I understandable. Everybody has to make their own decisions. So, m my biggest issue was, first of all, I don't trust about you, and I said that publicly. I said again. And then when Lauren took me to get a test at the fire department, there was a fireman there who said that he wasn't taking it. This was a firefighter, This was a fighting who had been on his job for a year. When I heard that, Babe, it was like God just opened up my eyes and

say everything that you said, my child is true. I am not taking that. I'm just not. It's just starting. And he said he is not taking it. He's not. I told him that he can, you know, his first on the list. They haven't made it mandatory. But he said he's not taking it. And he's black, and he's black and he's in the field and he first, he's first on the list. When we were black folks been first for any damn thing. They really want to help us out right, Well listen, Okay, so now I got

you which black his story resonates with you. Gladys West. Her name is Gladys West, and she was very instrumental in the mathematics behind the GPS system. Okay, let us. I want to know in the movie, you know, they had the movie Hidden Figures. She wasn't featured in the movie, but she's still alive to this day. She was born in nineteen thirty and she's still alive. And she was very instrumental in the mathematics behind the GPS system. Wow, well, thank you for that girl. We would have never knew

that has not told us. Page is a transfer of information because we learned from each other. And you know that movie, man, that movie Hidden Figures was written about me because every time I go to the airport, they found my head and fig. Okay, Lord, that's flame. I love you, Flame. I loved you guys so much. Every Monday at one o'clock, Gladys West, we gotta see y'all write down these names because y'all need to learn these things to teach to your children. Break around just to

watch your show. Oh well, I appreciate that and have even How was your Valentine's Day? It was nice. I was my own Valentine. It was beautiful period. Yeah, self love. We I cooked dinner for myself and everything. I cooked dinner for myself too, but somebody else gave me dessert. Okay, love, we look okay, be slam something. We're coming to you right now because we see all your comments. Took the vaccine and we're praying for you, but we want to know there it is. Okay, Hi, Hi, how are you good?

What's your Stephanie Lama? Hello Stephanie. I put b s for my husband, Bertron and me, and then our last name is Lament Okay, right, yeah, Well I'll say to you that I work in the hospital, one of one of one of the biggest hospitals ever Yale, and I've

had the first and second vaccine. Now, initially I thought not to take the vaccine, and then my husband had a little heart situation that came up because he's such a hard worker and he's never been on medication or anything like that, and when the heart doctor told him to get vaccinated. I work in pharmacy, so I started talking to a lot of pharmacists and stuff you know

in the hospital setting. Before any patient gets any kind of medications, a pharmacist has to research um, looking the clinicals and make sure that medication is okay for the patient, that their kidney levels are correct, and so on and so forth. So they have to read a lot of stuff, you know, clinically, and so then I had a few pharmacists to say, Okay, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the vaccine, but I'd rather do maderna and so that's the type of vaccine I've got, and I have diabetes.

So after my husband said he was gonna get it, I was like, Okay, let me talk to pharmacists. And then I decided I was gonna get it um. First vaccine, I had a sore arms. Second vaccine, I was so sick and I felt like it had invoked every system in my body. And I said, although they tell you they're not injecting you with COVID, they should tell you that they're injecting you with something similar that is going

to invoke every system in your body. Which talking to the pharmacists, they say it's similar to having a flu. They said, a lot of people are being tested for COVID versus flu which is the same kind of test, because hospitals are getting paid more that if a patient asides from COVID versus the flu um. But long story short, I was very sick after the second one. I had never had a um a fever as an adult. UM. After the third day, I didn't know what to do,

so I started calling how many days were five? I was? I was off. I took a week off only because I know that when I get sick, I'm gonna be down for three or four days, And so I took a week off just so that when I got the vaccination, if I had a reaction UM, that I could have that time off. But when I called my doctors, if I called the e D first to talk to the chargeners, I guess they were too busy and they are overwhelmed

UM with COVID patients. And then I called my doctor's office and he says, Stephanie, drink a lot of water. Drink he says, make sure you're drinking a lot of fluid, and take talon a every four hours. So then what most people started doing in the pharmacy is taking talon all before the second dose and so then they had like less time down. But it is designed to invoke every system in your body. It pushes it. And I also understand now that you know, it's not FDA approved,

even all the animal testing hasn't been done. However, it's some new type of technology that they're using. So of course the type of person I am technology No, seriously, is the technology is supposed to like market something with the five Yeah, I read that somewhere recently. So and with the technology and learning that part, I was like, okay, so you know what all this other stuff I'm here and did they inject us with a microchip? So you know,

I'm kind of like, I'm I question everything. But another thing that made me get it is I'm seeing people in the hospital just dropped like flies with COVID. I mean, we just lost a lady that is a business unit clerk on a COVID floor. She has seven sons. She she just passed away, and they were trying to raise a hundred thousand dollars so that if she comes out of this, that she would be able to um not have to go back to work to take care of

her family. But what I do know and what I can tell you, and how much I can disclose is once once you're put on their taking precaution with putting people on ventilators now, but once you want a ventilator and and you're diagnosed with COVID. My mom's best friend actually ended up getting COVID and it was to the

point where she al once needed to go to the hospital. Um. But what she was saying was when she got there, like, please don't put me on a ventilator, please on, because it's like, apparently that's like the death sentence to you going eventilator. You're not coming back from it because you're under and you can't tell you you can't tell them when your body is receiving too much oxygen because you

are in the commas commato state. I don't want to take too much option and want the other thing is the other thing is is that keeping you paralyzed so so you don't wake up? Wow? Okay, so I'm glad. We're glad you're better. I'm glad your husband is better. I love you playing. I've been watching you before she ready. I saw you on T. S. Madison and since then I've been following you. We're gonna have t s Madison on my show here on the I want to ask

you a question. I know you said that your husband took it, and you talked to some pharmacies and to some other people. What made you finally decide to say, you know what, I'm going to do it? Because I know that you were on the fence about it, because from what you say it to us. What made you finally say I'm just going to do it? Because I've had diabetes for over thirty years and I'm on an insulin pump, and I just felt like, if it's um anything that I can do UM and and believe, try

to have some faith about it. Um, I'm doing all these other preventive steps, you know, wearing a mask, um. You know now we're wearing goggles and hills on the floor and all that kind of stuff, you know, even as just technicians going to load medications to the machines, I felt like, as a diabetic, you know, I just need to take every precaution. And with my husband, my husband has a brother who's a doctor, and that my husband decided to take it, I said, I'm gonna take it. Well,

we appreciate you saying your story. I want to ask you a question. What what black historian resonates with you? So, what black historian resonates with me is Harriet Tubman, although everybody knows about her. I have a girlfriend who's a real estate agent, and she says she wants me to watch that movie, and God forgive me that I haven't watched it yet because she she says, Stephanie, you remind

me so much of Harriet Tubman. She says, You're always about saving people and saving your people and giving them knowledge and rescuing people. So yeah, Stephanie, thank you so much for joining us today on laughing now. We appreciate you. Love me safe, and thank you. Thank you for being who you are, and for for being so truthful and so honest, and and for educating people. Every time you have a life, You're always educating. Thank you. Thank you too,

young lady, I don't know you. That's thank you. That's her name is Lori. What's her last name? Laurie, Laurie Hogan. I will be following. Thank you both, Yes, thank you, God, bless you. Baby. She said that her friend told hush you man her Harry tub Now. I love Harry Tubbing. Now, Harry tubbing was a beast. But let me tell you, Let me tell you, Ferris, let me tell y'all something. I'm not like that. If I would have got away, yea, I would have been on y'all and I wouldn't come

back to get my kids. My mama was not nobody y'all as would have had to get away on y'all own because I wasn't gonna take the last Where are you at where you store? Oh? My god? You all man stuffing? When I had I can't see you. I see like, how here you are? All right? How are you? Hello? Hands somehow are you? I'm good, flame, I'm good flame. So I just wanted to talk about one of my ancestors whose black. His study tell me it's about the Lovings. I don't know if you've ever heard of them. Yeah,

the movie I remember the movie Militia. Jeter is my great great act. Okay. So she was a part of that. And they like fault and we're like destroying and people are hating them because they're an enterracial couple. So they went through this clouds and they became the first enter racial couple to be accepted and merged and get a certificate in America. That's good culture, that's that's good d and that you came from good stock. I fear at first,

I reven bed your conversational love loud. You got to let me know the gown, you gotta let me do it went down already the other show. And guess what I did, exactly what my ancestors did. And I then married me. Mr Charlotte, are you married to a white young You went to a Caucasian young man play that fucking music, white boy, let me see what he looks

like you? But you know, you know Ferris was beautiful about that, that you came from that, and that you're sharing this story because I always talk about on love Lounge. Love ain't no color. Love ain't no damn color. And I tell i'dn't even have to tell Lauren that, you know, not to say she was supposed to marrying someone else. But you don't miss your golden opportunity or your husband or your wife because of what color they are. Love it,

love ain't no color. You can fall in love with somebody look nothing like you and learn from beautiful and that stereotyzus about what's been down below. That ain't truth for all of them. I'll tell you you you preached it to the quiet that because I know some of these white boys is swinging. What's that song? He feels me with all these clothes? Are what y'all left? It's cold. I'm in Buffalo, Oh, New York. Oh, y'all just seventy nan and no ridiculous in Buffalo. We're getting fifteen into

tomorrow tonight. They that's why you're in the grocery store. Makes sense. Thank you. I will see you at Love Lives later than you for the information. Congratulations to you in your booth. Thank you. I want details back o busness. The Lord is my chep for that. Should I want bring somebody back, bringing Pam. Bring on Pam. Since we are already on the East coast, let's bring Pam on Pam on the East coast. Y'all like this list the caller towards me. Listen, how are you a baby? How

are you you look with your hair down? Thank you? No, we need no trash. Thank you, you're looking good too. No, we need no tracks. Pam. I want to ask you a question because Pam is like Pama is like tech Ja, and Pam is a very brilliant woman. She lived alone like she caucase of her for seven years. They got, Hey, what what black historian resonates with you? Well, I have a couple. I had to have my notes. Um hello, uh that do we know? Okay you hear me, you

hear me? Okay, Setty boop? Do we know about Betty boot? Betty book was Esther Jones? Her character was stolen by this bio, a white woman who went on to make the money and all you know from the twenties Cotton Club Esther Jones and then also something a little bit more uh scientific, Dr Walter McAfee. Without him, they wouldn't have been able to calculate what it takes to get to the move nineteen forty six. Well, well you and I thought that was that was before you so silly.

You know, Black history, like I like to think about the song that Bob Marley singes, Get upstand up. Half the story has never been told. There's so much history that we have that goes back, back, back, back back before everything. The Moors you know, the more okay, black people, we don't invent it and created some ship we don't even know about in this century, the Moores are from Aians.

Italians are actually black. Hello, Sicily, Sicily. Why are you think it's a lot of that self hey, going on with the with Thealians and the Sicilians because that black blood. They got black blood, right, It's just just that, but that is Oh I hated that analogy though, paym, I know it's the true and I know it's the truth. So you thought, did you just hear that they got all this hate self hate because of the black Black people are so much the crams in the barrel, just

you we can even look at like The Godfather. I don't know if you guys, I hope everybody's watched The Godfather. But even when they have their large meeting with all the heads of the Five families, when they talked about, you know, they wanted to sell drugs and that they'll only put it in the black neighborhood and you know, we'll keep it out of school so we can put it in the black neighborhoods because that's fine. Yeah, there's a lot of representation of what that stems from. Yeah,

it's it's it's it's so deep. It's so it's like that vein of the vein is so long and so deep. You know, it's like it's it's really something. But we we need to realize, as black people and people of color, how much this how much of this world we created? How much of the love, how much of inventions? Um, everything culture that we're all up in there. Everybody thinks that you know, they're you know, they hate them. They don't realize when they hate on black people, they're probably

hating themselves or people of color. They're hating themselves. So they need to stop. You know, it's terrible, It is terrible. Pam. Let me ask you a question. How are we we are? We did Sam any time really with the boys. We watched we watched the Fred Hampton movie. I cooked them all in nice dinner. Um, you know, we just hung out. You know, that's when you know, at the twenty seven years, you do your little notes and we we we have an understanding. You know, we do a lot of big things,

we do little things, you know. So it was it was one of those family Valentines and then you know later on there was some situations. Look at my face. Yeah, yeah, you know, you just getting in when you can, when you got the you know, the family. It's no big deal. You have that Valentine's all the time, and what that weather like over there in New Jersey, because I know where you at. We're waiting on some other icy ship to come down, and we still got all the snow

left from a week ago. It's covered, it's covered. It's a mess. But you know, you do what you do. You just lived through it, and we're gonna melt out hopefully next week when some rain comes. Hopefully we'll get rid of something. This. Thank you paying for coming on ship, especially information, because I think I knew that looking up everybody, look up the wars and see the influence from the all the way back to the ninth or tenth century over in Spain and all Italy and Spain. Honey, all right,

Pam Mark Mark, come the doctor. He gonna come on and give us some information. We thank you. Let me tell you bring Markey Mark on because his his partner who's the doctor, is gonna come on and talk about the vaccine. He just took it. I want to talk about y'all know that Megan Marco is pregnant with baby number two. You know the queen is having a fit. Prince Harry, you can't stay about and player. That's that Compton coach? Yes, where are you? Ain't she from Compton?

Ain't there you? Ain't she from Compton? Megan marco Uh she is not? Or south Central? I think there he is? Come on, is he not one the question? Baby? Let me tell you something, Prince Harry, you know the queen man is here, you know, the queen over there like you, you just gonna keep knocking up, Marky, mark you yeah, okay, um yeah. They got home early. So I heard the one lady who was talking about like this new it's an it's a new type of vaccine, meaning the messenger RNA.

So explain what the difference is between like a flu shot and the messenger RNA and white your opinion on it?

In my opinion? Your opinion on the vaccine? All right, Well, the vaccine, the two that are being administered currently, the Fiser vaccine and the Madurna vaccine are both messenger RNA vaccines, which means they analyzed the entire DNA code of the virus and they found one little section that was like the blueprint for the little spikes on the outside of the viral particle structure, and then they created RNA which which Matt is up to that DNA section, and so

that's what you're getting injected into you is like a little piece of the blueprint that codes for those little spikes. And then that's what your body will make antibodies too, so that if you ever are exposed to the actual virus, your body will already have these antibodies that can attack those spikes and latch onto the virus and kind of market for destruction and make it easy for your body's immune system to kill it off quickly. Right, Okay, so

let me ask you a question. I'm calling you Bay because that's what Mark caused you, and I want to ask your NA because these people here knows that, but they don't need to know your real name. Let me ask you a question though, on a series too. So what about people who have pre existing conditions, who have diabetes, who have HIV, who have what have you? What is they gonna do for them? Because those are the ones that they trying to really push it to now that

they're saying this is in California. I'm in California. I know you guys are at Florida. But those are the ones that at first they said you couldn't take it. Now they say that people who even have like fillers. I don't have fillers, but I have black market silicone in my I have silicone breast implants. What about me if I decided to take I'm completely against it. But if I decided to take it, what would that do for me? Well, it would do the same thing it

does for everybody. It would make your body, uh, develop these antibodies for the spikes on the virus, so that if you're ever exposed to the actual virus, you'll fight it off much easier. M Oh, but you know what, let me let me tell you why where I met when you write this on this information? Baby? Because I've been very adamant about not getting and I'm still not

getting it. Uh. And the fact that you are Mark's partner and you got it, and you're a doctor and Mark still doesn't want to get it, I'm still not convinced. I can't get convinced by that because let me and let me tell you what I'm so shredded about the information. First of all, don't trust Dr Fauci. I haven't trust Dr Fauci since Ronald Reagan years with the HIV and and a z T that medication that was killing everybody.

They said it killed as it d killed A's. But they forgot to tell you is that it killed you. That's why I killed the ages, because it killed you. There is so much misinformation and so many untruths that has been put out by the government and so many doctors that we that we thought we trusted that I don't know what to believe. And that's why I'm at with so many people. We are on the fence and afraid. I'm actually afraid. So talking to you, we appreciate that.

But I have a couple of questions for you too though, before we move on. So one is we now know that there's seven different variants here in the US of COVID. So in terms of the vaccine, how is that supposed to combat these new strains that are appearing in the

in the US. Well, that's a good question. I mean, I don't think there's a whole lot of data on that specifically, But the hope would be that the variants, as long as they have something resembling those spiky projections on their surface than the antibodies that we have from the vaccine um will still offer us some protection because they still have those you know, that spiky exterior that were that word some protection just shook me right there,

some protection. Oh, I'm some protective from a bullet. I don't like that because that would be my question to you though, because I know, like, for instance, the UM the MODERNA vaccine is said to be effective and fightser I think is about ninety So do you guys have the data or the percentage of what the protection level is with these new variants coming? Like what is the level of protection with you getting the COVID vaccine in case you encounter these variants? No, I don't. I have

not seen actual numbers or data. I would he'd be completely guessing. Maybe it's fifty, maybe it's five percent, who knows, but but even one percent is better than nothing. So why do the vaccine? Why do you think people should get the vaccine? And why did you get it? I got it because I don't want to have to be stressed out as much and be worried about contracting this virus and we're raid that. You know, I'm that one in a thousand person that gets really, really really sick

or potentially could die from it, you know. Now I know that my body is going to be more prepared to fight it off. And you know, I think we're all tired of living our lives in fear of this stupid virus. So I mean that's really why I did. I don't want to live in fear anymore. By let me ask you a question, because we know that you guys just lost a very close personal free and to post possibly to COVID. Was that a deciding fact that

with you getting the vaccine? Uh? No, even before that happened, I still, you know, it was very much interested in getting the vaccine as soon as it was available. Someone asked, Uh, they think that all vaccines are the same as the

messenger RNA. What's the difference between the flu vaccine or flu shot and the messenger are on some vaccines UM actually contained weakened versions of the actual virus itself, the whole virus, not just like a piece of DNA that codes for one little part of the virus, but the

entire sequence. But it's like a weakened version, so it's easier for your body to fight off, but you're still technically being injected with something that is actually infecting you and multiplying and spreading in your body until your body fights it off. Whereas this, this can't multiply, this can't reproduce. It's just the one little you know, you know, cc of fluid that they inject in you. And that's it. It's not gonna spread, it's not gonna divide and replicate.

It's just that one little piece and then your body makes antibodies to it. That's but I want to I want to touch on that too, because I I saw that somewhere. Is that because the reason why for instystem moderna vaccine has to be refrigerated at a certain temperature because it's got to keep its potency or ethicacy, whatever you wanna call it. And as that, once it's injected into your body, it disperses. But however, it only last in your body for a certain amount of time, and

it's like evaporates. Is that correct and clarity right? H Yeah? I don't know. I mean it well, I don't think it evaporates, but it probably just breaks down and gets you know, dissolves into nothing and broken down into uh, waste products that your body just reabsorbs and then gets rid of. And we've talked about this because I think you talked about it with your the other day. Is that if let's say it only last six months, it's

not changing your perspective on getting the vaccine. If the protection only last six months, I mean, that would be disappointing, um, and that would be unusual. I mean, almost all vaccines offer at least a few years of protection. The reason that they say you get the flu shot every year is because there's so many different strains of the flu that every year they look at kind of what are the most popular flu strains that year, and they make a vaccine that contains those flu strings or what they

think it will be. But with this, this isn't that situation. And you I doubt it would be six months. You know, it might be a few years. It might be five years, it might be ten years. But if enough of us get vaccinated around the world, eventually this thing will get marginalized into such such small numbers and it won't keep spreading around the world that it won't be a minor problem. To other good questions that someone just asked. One was if I if they've already had COVID and they have,

anybody's should they get the vaccine? Still? That's a good question. Um, we don't know how much immunity is you know, gained by having the virus and then recovering from it, but probably a decent amount. So I think it's a judgment call. I mean, it can't hurt you, you know, it could only help you. Additionally, because maybe it actually would help with these variants. Maybe you're antibodies to the COVID virus

that you got exposed to. Um don't attack the spikes, and they attack some other part of the virus that this other mutated you know, strain doesn't have, and so maybe you're only protected from that one strain, whereas maybe the vaccine will give you actually more protection because it's coding for those little spikes, which most variants seem to have that spike. And if someone is vaccinated, why is it important that they still wear masks, because can they

still get the virus? They can still get exposed and it can you know, maybe live inside them for a few days and they'll be asymptomatic and won't show any signs or symptoms, but they could then spread it to other people who have not been vaccinated. So that stills scary to me, uh Dr bay I, So appreciate you kind of giving us this information because I'll tell you, my man enough to think about something. I do know for sure that I am not. Here's my vaccine right here.

I know you can't think it. We'll want to see your face. This is my vaccine right here. It's been working since Marst the fifte tail Bay, doctor Lithole, and it's my friend before we before we get off here, and again, Mark, thank you so much for for bringing him on. My question is because it doesn't seem like we know how long this vaccine lasts in our system, because you know Dr Bay said it could be five years,

it could be ten years. How do we know that we're not going to have to get another round of vaccinations or have to get booster shots. Mean, if we don't know how long this COVID vaccine protection is gonna last, what what did we say to that? I'd say, you're right, we don't know, and we may have to get more, you know, until enough people get vaccinated to where the virus drops down to such small, small numbers that it's

really no longer a threat. Um we got to you know, keep fighting it, you know, I mean, if this was if this was something deadly like ebola, were like people who contracted will die from it. Um. I think a lot more people would would probably be getting the vaccine. But because it's, you know, a relatively mild virus for most people, there is this hesitation. But you know, there are people that do die from it. So the vaccine is not eight thousand and counting dr base. So that's

that's more than mildly. That's a lot of people. That's almost a half a million people Americans, I agree, out of and I think it's about a five or ten percent rate of the people who got COVID who actually developed severe illness or died, it's around five. Uh, you know that. Please don't take this as a disrespect, but that sounded very disregarding. Tell that to somebody who lost their mother or father, or their brother or sister. Percentage don't mean nothing when you lose a personal loved one.

Y'all lost your friend. Mark was all shook up about your friend who passed the way. This disease is very personal. And until they give me some reassurances, cause ninety a cent, I am black, I'm transgendered, I live an alternative lifestyle, I might be that five percent that it doesn't work for that's my fear. So that it worked context because I know what you were saying, context equivalating it to the E Bowl of virus. What what would you meaning

by that? Because the E Bowl of IRUs someone who catches that and the death rate is significantly higher compared to what we're dealing with. Now you were saying, yeah, I mean, I was. I was just kind of speculating that maybe that's why some people are not wanting to get vaccinated because there, um, you know, it's not as deadly. It was just I'll say this as to why I don't feel comfortable to get vaccinated. One flame brought up the fact that, you know, my father works for the

fire department. He's one of the highest ranking members in the fire department for Los Angeles City, and he's constantly in these meetings. He's having conversations with doctors in the may or and everybody else, and he's not getting enough information for him to feel safe to do it. He also, I also he has also other colleagues on the fire department that's not comfortable either. Play gave the story of you know, feeling sick. We also had Stephanie that came

on and talked about her experience. For me, when I was twelve years old getting a flu shot, I was bedridden for seven days with the stomach virus from the flu shot. So I'm not very gung ho on the vaccinations to begin with. I'm very lucky to the point that I haven't had COVID, but I have friends who have gotten COVID and it's a very scary experience for them.

But the fact that there's so many I don't knows and we've got these variants, it doesn't make me feel comfortable to say, Okay, well, let me risk my life, my vitals and everything else to take this on a hope in a whim that it's going to protect me, and there's not enough information to back that up. That's that's my stance of why I'm not comfortable to take the vaccine. Well, I understand that I look at it differently.

I look at it that if you if I get COVID, there is a five to ten percent chance I might die from it, Whereas I don't know what is the percentage of people that have had serious problems from this vaccine. I haven't seen the numbers, but I'm assuming it's less than one percent, So it seems safer to get the vaccine less than a one percent risk of something happening versus getting COVID. So I'd rather go with those odds, and just to wrap it up, I'm gonna be the

final wrap it up person. Again, this is coming from someone who has years of it's of medical experience and education. And let's be honest, a white Jewish man in our country compared to a lot of this audience who is people of color and have other things to uh factor and or be concerned when it comes to the health care system and our country. So it's not to say one's right ones the other. Again, back to what I've always said, if you're not comfortable, you're not comfortable, especially

as a person of color. It's it can be uh off putting to hear a white man in America who's a doctor say I'm I'm comfortable with it, If that makes sense, market Mark understand me that this was great. Appreciate by coming on and giving us this information. Thank you so much, babe. That's what we call you, because that's what doctor bay. Because you have opened somebody's eyes and ears and you made somebody thinking on this page, the doctor Bay, We're not trying to get people to

change their man. I don't want to convince somebody to do with that. I want you to think for yourself and make the decision for yourself. I love the fact that you have taken us that say, and Mark is still against it. You know who knows. I may change my man, market may changes man. I don't think I'm a change man because I ain't took a flu shot at My children have never had a flu shot eighteen, seventeen and fourteen. They've also never had the flu. So

I understand the logic. I even understand the logistics in my psyching in my head. And this might be because I'm a black person, doctor Bay. It might be because I am a black person in this America, in this America, not in the seventies America, but in this America. Maybe that's part of my reasoning on why I don't want to do it. But the information that you have given us is fantastic and we appreciate it. Thank you so much. We can't see your face, but you found cute all right.

Thank you guys, Markey, Mike, I love you. I see you later. Pepper thank you today. See, we had a thought to come on and give us an inference. And I think that's great too, because a lot of people are have been asking, even in this episode that we're doing, you know, please bring a professional on. So we were able to bring a professional on. We're finding some different perspectives,

so hopefully that gives you guys some insight. And we're asking why y'all couldn't see Bay's face because Bay is a professional, he's a doctor, yes, and then the here's the here's the pushback. His pardner won't take the vaccinat and he will. That is great for us to see that. Because we live in the same house, you don't always have to think of like the decision. The ultimate decision is your decision. Whatever you want to do, whatever you want to do. Bring it back on about we had

a show planned and nothing went y'all. Y'all's honey, I'm saying, I'm listening. I'm trying to take those right down. Hello, wow, wow, yes, okay, unexpected talk up loud and we can barely hear you. That better, I see you. I need to hear you. Turning volume up, Turn that volume up, turn the volume alright, alright. Yes, I love that you brought in another voice and another perspective. So yes, absolutely, absolutely, Well that about wraps up our show,

it does. I think we should definitely end on that note. Yeah, definitely. Let me tell you something. Let me let me take one at my picture. Let me tell you something right now, laugh and learned is the show that's called the transfer of information. We learned from each other. If so many things that we learned today, myself included that we don't know.

And the reason we do this because my flame mats and I wanna say this again, I pride myself Nick Smith and Lauren Hogan as well, we pride ourselves on having the smartest listeners on the internet. We don't just teach y'all. We learn from y'all because guess what y'all learn from us? Yeah, and we're learning too. That's why we ask you guys to come in and bring information because as you guys are learning with us, we're also learning with you. And I'm not trying to tell y'all

what to do, baby. That's the decision that you make about your life. Is your decision that you make about your life. On this page, what we do Nicholas. Oh all we all we do is encourage people to say what they want to say, because we're not trying to get anybody to change their minds. We're only simply trying to get everybody to use their mind. And in order to use your man, you have to have one watch The Wizard of Ours and listen to the Scars Crow say.

Sometimes people without brains do an awful lot of talking. Uh you know, wait a minute. Tomorrow, y'all, I will be on fifty with Corey Hokum at a PM. Go to his page Corey Holk fifty. I just did an interview with head Crack. I don't know when it's going to air, probably this week. Yeah, we'll give you all the information. But this was a dope show. We are outside in front of the fire pit. Kindle is there

with the cameras and likes. This will still drop. On Wednesday night at midnight we have an interview with Serious Radio Radio Serious love Land, which I was so hoping that you were gonna miss promoting those because I'm like, well, you have to get to promote those each time because they fall at the off time. So great, that's it. That's all I want to make sure you did there you go all right? Well, Nick, where can everybody find you? You can find me at Nick Smith News and hopefully

back home tomorrow. But you know, hey, we'll see keep me in your prayers. You're gonna be there for a minute. I think they're gonna keep you there for about three days. Thank you to all the flame Maks that chimed in today to give us all your information. Today was informative. If nothing else, I ain't cut up, cut up, but today was informed and I was so intrigued with learning information and listening to how it is. Baby. It was

great Mirk for bringing bayon. That was wonderful that that he's a doctor and we we just found out in investment. We see you, you know, we see you white chocolate, yes, and it is it is uncanny to me that we are in this, in this situation that we are still in. I'm not telling y'all what to do, baby, I'll make up your own man. But thank you, Nikolas. We're gonna take you out because I can barely hear you. For some reason, I don't know why I can't hear Nick.

We'll see Nicholas next week though, we'll being out we're being our real studio next week, Hogan. So you can find me on Instagram at Lauren Armandi Age as well as YouTube for my instruction. I am Laura Hogan on YouTube and we're uploading all episodes of Lack and Learned there also too, we have a new Instagram page called this is He She We and that'll just simply be dedicated to the show, so you guys will get some

snip so some stippets rather from Lafe and Learn. We're also gonna maybe do a photo shoot soon and we can get Nick out here um, so we'll keep some content up there for you guys as well to look at um and like where can everybody find you? You know what? A family And I'm on YouTube, I'm gonna flame my role Instagram and flame underscore my row. I g I'm Monroe Flame and Facebook. Got Marcus Flaming Roll Parker. I want to tell you guys to stay encouraged, enjoyed,

like history. Like I hope you guys had a wonderful Valentine's Day. We are under construction. We Left and Learn because we still work for a heart to black Thick network and we're trying to get it together, so next we will be all dazzled out in our new location. But thank you guys for coming with us, rolling with us today, listening to us. Hopefully you took away something from this conversation today that will change your life for

the good. Hopefully you found something in this inspiring conversation because I'm inspired. I know what, I know what I'm gonna do. I know what I'm not gonna do. As soon as we've done, I'm going to eat. We love you, guys, and we'll see you next week. Thank you guys so much. Laugh and Learning later, I mean love longs later on I g pet. Laugh and Learn is a production of The Black Effect Network and I Heart Radio. Our executive

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