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end we leave it, which is a lift dispirit. You think you want to revisit, So your friends take a listen, folk say split, oh folks that we dig it. No do what you do, No do what you don't? No kiss, do what I do? Were flame? Hello? Nick? How was your week? My week was good. You know, I'll just share with you and and you know this Flame, but I'll share with Lauren and the Flamets and Vouchets and

everybody out there listening. I went on hand and booked arrangements to go see my mom, and I'm super excited about that, having not seen my mom and about oh fame. We were talking about this almost two years directly. You know, we see each other, We talk all the time. We do the FaceTime and all of that. COVID stopped us. But the last time I was physically in my mother's presence was when I had my mom and everybody, the rest of my family um come to d C. So we were all in d C and we did the

museum and all that stuff together. But that was April twenty nineteen. Yep. So but ye know that's me, y'all. I phone every day, right y'all? What they call that when you got absolutely we FaceTime, face FaceTime. We FaceTime and my mother likes your Google, your due hang out. Uh, so we do that all the time. But my mother,

you know, doesn't want to be caught Lauren. You know, it's like, don't face time with other people around and let me know so I can put on some hair, you know, and everything we get me on there so that can be called no black woman, that's you. You can't be calling no black woman out of the blue. And she ain't got a damn hair around. You know how we do calls and everything else. You gotta prepare people. Speaking of that, did you see the video of the lady the other day she was in being she had

a week on and the Zoom meet was over. She snaped the week off and went back up under the cover. That's very me. Oh my god, that's me too. I'll just keep the camera off. This morning, I had an eight am called with the like folks in my organizations that I know. So they had scarf glasses and everything else, like this is what y'all get in the eight o'clock in the morning. So period, Well, nicko, let's open up the Floodlinds and let's get the started with what we're

talking about calls. I just want to remind everyone that if they had they want to chime in, to make sure that they used the flames and the comments and that they type in capital letters. At the end of the day, you guys want to make sure that you all know that we really do value your feedback. Your comments and your response at the end of the show

helps other people to find the show. So at the end of laugh and Learn, if you like what you hear, go ahead and comment for us, and make sure if you want to sign a sound off, you use the flames in the comments. I see y'all comments say, y'all only see half of me. I have to sit a certain way because us yesterday when we were at the photo shoot. Oh, I was bent through in my bad you know, getting out my articles to change clothes. But

I didn't kneel down. I just bent over. Baby. When I stood up, whoa, Lauren had to crack my back. My back was killing me. It's still bothering. My back is killing me. But I took a After the age of thirty, we have to squat, you know, we're supposed to use our knees. Who's thirty, Well, once you reach thirty, you need to I'm a twenty nine and a half. I'm almost there, though. Nick. Let's talk about this week.

Let me what what what we started. Let me start with parenting and respect on both ends of the spectrum of being a parent and a child. Respect is not only given or given. You have to give respect. I mean. You know what I mean, y'all know what the hell I mean. You have to in in order to receive it, you have to give it. When I say that, I'm talking about the video that happened between Kirk Franklin and his son k Ryan. Let me explain something to you.

Do I think that Kirk Franklin was wrong for cussing out his kids. I do not I have cussed out my children. Do I think that he was wrong for calling his kids some of the names that he chose to call his kid? You goddamn right, you get you don't call your son black man in this America, in this country, a bitch asked nigger publicly where he didn't know he's being taped or if that's how he and then you see how it didn't even break the son down. Then he told the son, I break your mothercking skull,

and don't you ever disrespect me, your broke ass. This is your child. This is your kid. Whatever he is, he belongs to you. Whatever he becomes, he still belongs to you. If I went in that room and talk to my son the way he talked to his kid, my son will have a meltdown because my son is not accustomed to me. He's speaking to him in that manner. So this is how you know that this boy was used to that, Because the boy didn't break down. The boy stood his ground and come on, come on, I

dare you, I dare you. That's because he was used to being spoken to by Kirk Franklin. Y'all said what y'all want to about all these Christians and Gospels and saved. They still regular people. The point was that nobody probably believed this boy, and he ended up recording his daddy. And that's what the problem is, because he probably have told people that he was talking to him crazy, but

then he was smart enough to record it. Let me tell you something, Kirk Franklin with that weak ass apology, because that what you apologize to us, because if you'd have called me a bitch, asked nigga, I'd have called you one back. That's what they say about you behind closed doors anyway, with them tight as suits, some real talk, Okay, Lord,

I said my piece. As a daddy, I would never call my son bitch as I do call Ni Nick if you don't get in here and take this guy bute out, if you don't come clean up my bathroom. But I would never disrespect my son and didn't expect him to respect me as his father period, because the sword goes both ways. I'm sorry, Lord, just come on, I'm acting like Nicholas today. We're starting early today. I

don't mixed. I haven't mixed feelings about it, because you know, he still is a parent and my upbringing, we've my household like it's it's very honest, you know what I mean. So, and I have an older brother or eight years apart. My dad is very strict with him. You know. I've heard my dad say some very stern things to my brother. Um, So I'm kind of in the middle because the other part of me, too, is I don't really like the fact that Kirk Franklin's son recorded this conversation and aired

it for public view. Now. I don't know, maybe he feels like he's been verbally abused all of his life and he wants to finally, you know, show the public who his father is. But I just feel like family business needs to stay family business, and you didn't need to air your dad's dirty laundry like that. If y'all had a real issue and you just felt like you could move past it, then sometimes, you know, just because your family doesn't mean that you'll have to be together,

you know what I'm saying. Like, I have family members that I don't speak to, and it is what it is. So if you felt that serious in your spirit that you just didn't think this relationship with your father was going to work, then just separate ties, like, just let it go. Everything is not meant to be, but to take it and air it, I don't really have any respect for that. I don't think he should have done that, Lauren.

Just to kind of piggyback off of what you said, I think I'm more aligned with what you just said there. I think that anytime a family situation is it should stay in the family. That's just my idea. Particularly discrepancies like that UH, those things should be handled internally. I

do think too. I might have felt differently if the Sun were a child, but because this was an adult male, I'm I think I'm giving a little bit more latitude to the language in the exchange because I look at it as man to man more so than um man to boy or man to child. Even though that is his son. It is clear this is not the first time they've engaged that way, So I think that, Um, it was uncomfortable for me to hear because it became public.

Let me just say that, But now that it is public, I felt like, wow, UM, I think that I need to step back simply because this is a family that clearly UH engages this way with one another. In the times that we live in, with the councel culture and with reality TV ain't shut off limits no more, and nothing is off Nothing is off limits because we have reality TV that we adore. We run to watch the foolishness and the buffoonery, and as much as some of it is scripted in stage, so much of it is true.

Look at that video, rewatch that. Listen to that video again. That man talked to his son like he did not even know this man. This is how. This is what I heard as a father. I'm not speaking as somebody else done outside how. I always have said that I never want to lose the respect of my son because I'm gonna treat him a certain way. And I'm transgender. I'm sitting here with titties, were dresses and wigs and

ship and he knows exactly who I am. But losing his respect would have started in his youth, when he very young. He's now a teen. I'm not going to do that. But that's my thing too, though. And I mean, I guess people can say I think I think he's thirty three. He is, But what I'm saying Kirkmen talking to that boy like that for years. My only question is God, if he speaks to his thirty three year

old son in this capacity his firstborn. I want to know how he talks to his other children, off, I want to know how he talks to people who work for him. I want to know how he treated the family, because the family is no longer with him but my thing.

But to the point of he's thirty three and we don't know what his upbringing is like and how he's being talked to, I think is you're also a grown ass man at this point, and if you don't like the way your daddy's talking to you, you can buck back and say something, I'm so sorry, but not enough for me, he was because that I just feel like, if you're that, you know, firm in your stance of you want to air your daddy's dirty laundry and this is how he's talking to me, you better buck back

accordingly and stop acting like, oh, you know this little boy in his face, in his face, not all over the phone, but right right there, square up with him, right there and there. If that's what you want, absolutely I'm with you. I'm with you. Hurt people to hurt hurt people. I'm gonna say it again, hurt people. Yes they do. And I have to believe because that's not Kurt's only child, so I have to believe, like like

some parents, he's probably ranked them. That's not the favorite child, like you don't love I'm thinking he probably does not love them all equally. Is that fair? That's terrible to say. That's terrible, terrible. It's very true, but it's terrible to say. We don't that, but we don't say that out loud, that you're the favorite child your kids equally, because like even the daughter came out and said that she was

defending her father. I don't know if you guys saw that video, but you don't say that allowed Nick a favorite. I have a favorite kid, I absolutely do. It's Timmy because he don't talk back the dog, and he didn't tell you how past my kids is. We gotta stim me to check the other day, so I gave each one of my kids fo hundred allars a piece they spent. They don't need ship, they don't need nothing. I just gave. I asked them which one y'all gonna take me to lunch?

My son said, I just gave you now a hundred dollars. Okay, I'm gonna let that sit on y'all brain. That's he just I just gave you now a hundred dollars. That's what I should have said. There, there you go. You should have recorded that where you go. I love it. You had me rolling with that. They'll play with the stimulus checks. You were talking about how they all dropped on Friday, And sure enough, this kind of leads into

our next topic. Uh, it seems like people were going crazy this weekend with a little bit of shopping all over the places like shopping. It looks like spring breakers went crazy in Florida and police had to respond to the number and sizes of crowds. Now, mind you, there are those who are arguing that these checks dropped right around the same time that the vaccine has opened up to more people and that um, we have not reached herd immunity. So uh, you know, there are some who

are concerned that we may see another spike in the virus. Well, let's just say it is Florida has been open, okay, and Florida, Florida never closed. The scientists basically said Corona wasn't real. He was fudging, you know, COVID cases and numbers and everything else. Florida never closed. And so for the simple fact that you can. The beaches are open, spring breakers are going to flock there. That's just natural.

And as one that used to do it frequently in college, I always went to Miami for spring break, and it's it's just gonna happen, you know what I mean. The cases they may go up, but you're not going to really know because Florida hasn't been honest with any of their numbers since the pandemic you know happened. Is it is what it is like? Is anybody surprised? I'm not. I think that people are probably just frustrated. Well that's

it right there. That's why I told them I wasn't sending my kid back to school because have you seen the big fight in the college in the high school basketball weekend in Virginia, whether the white and the black team were playing against each other where it was a predominantly white school and predominantly black school. Predominant black school came to the predominantly white school to play a basketball game.

During the game, the entire game, the audience as well as the team members call them racial slurs, all kind of in words and everything else. The referees never intervened, They never said anything. A huge, massive fight broke out. After the fight, people have been locked down for a year. We are like caged animals. You're gonna just let us go and give us some money and say go, We're gonna go. They're gonna spread. No, I'm serious. That was that.

Somebody could have died for that. And with you watching the news and watching social media and listen to all this racial hate in this country, and then you put these kids against each other and they got the parents in the stands and other students calling these kids niggas and you ain't this and you're black and you're what, you're worthless and woo woo. Of course they're gonna last out. Baby, I'm telling you right now, we are on the po the kig of I ain't sitting my kids in school

because y'all unleash all these craziest kids. And if you knew little Johnny was crazy before you, before the coronavirus hit and the teachers been sending notes home, little Johnny is still crazy. He even more crazy now because he's been home with your crazy ask for a whole year. I ain't sending my kids in school with a Johnny. I don't Johnny Johnny might be like that, like that senator in uh in d C. What's her name, Marjorie? Yeah, that bitch. Yeah, I said at that bitch. Okay, where

we're going. Where we're going, Coach, I'm on it, I'm ready. What's our next time? Oh? We talked about a little bit of everything, you know we said before we opened up to the flame mats. We would talk about one of the things that have been uh top of line. Because you also talked about how much you enjoyed watching the Grammys and you want to give a shout out to your sister. I ain't watching the Grammys. I ain't told you that because I was at a photo shoot.

I do know that. Boss one our boss, right, Tiffany hattish my baby it want to grab me? For Best Comedy Album. The first time since two thousand and two that a black woman with last black woman to win for a comedy album was Whoopi Goldberg. So Tiffany just one that for Best Comedy Album. Congratulations Tiffany Hatt this we love you. Hear it, laugh and learn the executive producer and uh Andre Day was nominated. Who won? No, no, no,

that's the best. That's for Grant that's Oscars. Also say Andre get ud get nominated for an Oscar but on the Grammys front, so we had a lot of first time, a lot of first times, and so like let us see finally won her first Grammy. So shout out for lot to see. I do want to say, though, that I have one mad respect for Beyonce because she just made history. So shout out to Beyonce. She has officially won twenty eight Grammys, the first female artist to ever

do so. But also too, I want to give a shout out to miss Cardi b the wait, wait a minute, before you get off Beyonce, you gotta go to her baby. Oh and yes, Ms Blue Ivy, let me tell you all a story about bid real quick. Okay, since we're gonna bring up Blue Ivy, I remember what was this? Three years ago? I went to um Miss Tina Nose Lawsons Worrible Art Gallup and I realized how rich Blue Ivy was. When we were at the auction portion of the event and she was casually trying to outbid Tyler

Perry on a painting. I said, wow, it must be nice seven years old, seven years old. Just nope, I got money. I'm gonna get this painting. It took her father to say, put the put the paddle down. We're not We're not doing that anymore. But I'm just saying congratulations to her. It must be that baby she's got, she's got receipts and she's eight. So I didn't watch it either, but you were talking about how much you want to mention that. That's why I was segu into that.

But you Gail King talked about how I guess at some point Beyonce said to her that she was proud of her, and Gail saying, as a mother and as a parent, there's nothing you can do more than to tell your children that you're proud of them. That that just right. Go back to that first conversation we was having. Tell your son or your daughter that you're proud of them instead of called them bits what I say, and don't tell him that who's the favorite and who's not

your broke? As? How do you call your son broke and you are gospel superstar? If he yoke, he shouldn't be broke. He should be spending your money. But also to a Grammars fan, I do, like I said, I want to shout out Cardi B as well, because I think as a whole, a lot of people felt that many artists are popular artists were snubbed for the Grammys this year, and a lot of people were outraged. But Cardi B actually came out yesterday and said, I know a lot of you guys feel upset and that you

were snubbed. However, this was the first year that the Recording Academy nominated so many independent black artists in the history of the nomination process. So she said, we still need to honor these folks that are getting their dues at this point in time. You know, they put in the work and they're finally getting their recognition, even if it's not the most popular artist. This is their time to shine. So I appreciate Cardi B saying that she

was absolutely right. My uncle want to Grammy yesterday? Well another one it's like his. I think it's like a six now. Congratulations uncle. So I'm very happy about everybody in their accomplishments. Um as a whole, I got a question, when is Alexa and Syria gonna get a Grammy? And beyond the kids Alexa and Sirie, Rummy and Rummy and sir, So you show you what I know, honey, Rummy, Oh I love that was the thing that you talked to. That is the Alexa and Siria, that is who you

talked to. You know, I thought that was Beyonce kids name. Okay, I'm look, show you what I know. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, I know what I want to talk about. So this week there was a big, big bruhaha over at the talk because Sharon Osborne and um Show Underwood had a little riff, well not even a riff. Sharon Osburg made some very disparaging comments, and I said disparage because I

watched to see what we seeing. Um you know what bothers me about people who don't think that they're racist when they say they don't see it, if they act like they don't see it. I know in Britain it maybe a little different because she is British. But yeah, Pierce Morgan was out of pocket. SRL Underwood did not

corner her. But I didn't like the fact that Sure Sharon Osboard went around and I do like the fact that she did stop me sure when Sure it was don't start that crying because misure always breaks down crying. I know that from experience on Comic View two thousand and five. If you don't believe me, watch it. She'll just started crying to change the narrative. But I'm not fighting, sure because Sheryl stood her ground. So sure they're right. But now they have put the talk on hiatus, so

we don't know what's going on over there. What do you think they're gonna do? Um, we're living in a strange time of councel culture. What you think they're gonna do? I honestly, I mean, I don't want to say anybody should be fired, because I just think that that's bad Carmen to put on yourself, because that's somebody's livelies. But I think that I'll say this. I think Sharon's comments

were very problematic. And we said this last week that I find it very offensive when white people don't acknowledge they're the fact that they're racist and then expect us black folks to educate them on why they're being racist. I think that is the most disrespectful thing that you can do. You can go educate yourself. And Sharon Osborne was completely wrong. She was a absolutely wrong. She came out and said people forget that Pierce Morgan is being paid,

you know, to share his opinion. And Pierce Morgan, I stand with you until you understand the const the context of something, or understand fully what's happening. Don't put yourself out on front street and then try to play victim when ship backfires on you. Absolutely not. So Sharon Osborne needs to be held accountable for her statement and what she did. Whatever those you know, repercussions are, let them

be what they may. I'm not gonna put anything negative on anybody, but she should have known better, especially in this climate. She really should have known better. I understand that Sharon and that this is not related, but I think it speaks to maybe a character a bit. I understand that Sharon was behind the firing of Holly Pete Robinson.

You know, she was a sweet woman, uh that you know, Sharon had a problem with Holly Robinson Pete, and I understand instead of speaking to Holly Robinson Pete directly about what she had a problem with, she did the thing that so many do. Uh. They went to network and

they complained. But you know, Flam and I were talking about just this whole cancel culture overall, and I feel as though, Um, Sharon, unfortunately in one I do believe the onus is on the individual to educate themselves or at least be open to hearing the feedback from those who feel either marginalized or feel as though, Uh, there are issues around race that need a bit more nuanced or at least compassion. Um. We're seeing that now, with

that with Chris Harrison for The Bachelor, Rhett. Uh. You know, we're seeing that in so many different instances of people who are being let go. I'm from Chicago, as you all know, and there's a popular sports anchor, Mark j and Greco just got fired. Good he should have got fired. He should have been fired for what he said about Sheryl Burton. He should have been terminated. I remember, I just saw that he should have been terminated. But I don't want to get off topic. So come back to cause,

you know you would take us over the river. On back, Come on back, players, come on back. But but what I don't like to do is but what I don't want to do is just throw it out there without

giving you some kind of context. I do believe that all of these situations require people with a microphone with the platform to understand in the least show compassion to those who are saying, hey, we feel a little bit this way, and then to just flat out dismiss them and say, well, you don't have a right to feel that way because that's not what it was. You're like, whoa, here's my here's my take on sharing Oswood and I like your Eysborne. You can't have no comment too much

of opinion of getting people fired. You were married to a man and still is married to a man who bites the head off lave bats and then you kiss him in the mouth. He go down and give you head but he got bad blood in his mouth. Girl, if you don't sit your heads down and go back to UK with that, but well, flame, I think I think that's organic. Though that's terrible, that's nasty, that's nasty.

And then you want to attack sherl Underwood. And y'all know me and Sherl Underwood have one under the bridge, but it is now water under the bridge. I thought that Sheryl still her round and say what she had to say, and Cheryl was so diplomatic with it. Sheryl her temperament remained calm. Sheryl stayed in her lane. She never overspoke, she never disrespected sharing, and Sharon was combative. Sharon was combative because she knew she was cornered. When

you corner an animal, they back to the wall. They had a new two options, swing or die. Baby. She started swinging. They need to take me, baby. I don't even think corners so much as I'm asking you too. I'm asking you to understand where I'm coming from. No, you'll tell me where he was. You'll tell me right now where I was. Like, whoa, what just happened? If you need a replacement for Sharon Osin, would you like I got red hair already? What you need? What you need.

I'm just saying I can feel the info. I can sit right in the middle seat, Baby, I fit in the middle. Yeah. I know that they're the talk is under review, so I'm curious to see what happens. But like I said, Sharon was a d percent wrong. And to your point, Nick, you know she got Holly Robinson Pete fired specifically because she was and I quote to ghetto. That is a exactly what Holly Robinson Pete said that that was the reason why she was fired. Issue Molly

issue with the Sharon Osworth situation. I mentioned Mark j and Greco, and I also mentioned Chris Harrison from The Bachelor. I do believe that we should we should counsel people before we cancel them. Like, I'm really uncomfortable with the way people are just not you're like all of a sudden bam. Like I think that when you have a imagine what can be learned. Since The Talk is a platform that clearly has a demographic where they try to reach people in Middle America, Uh, primarily right, if you

just imagine how many people can say wow. I never thought about that, because I do believe it's possible. There are some who never thought about, you know, asking if the baby is gonna be too dark? It's a little bit racist, y'all. Really, I never thought about that, Nick, Well, let me tell you why and just maybe have that conversation.

Because for me, and this is me, I have definitely lived and I have family members who are a different skin tone, and some of them have been valued throughout life in a higher regard than I have because their light and light is often seen as prettier. Light is often seen as more attractive. So it's not it wasn't left field for me to have them say there were family members and that family concerned about the baby skin color.

That's my experience, not putting that on any of you all, But I'm just telling you I've lived in the situations where light skin was revered, so it's not ridiculous for me to believe that there were those concerned about the color of that baby skin and that he had not even thought about the fact that, Wow, people think about that. Yeah, you think about that. Nope, Nope, nope, Um yeah that was for Harry. I'm I'm telling Sheryl Sherry was right

on this one. I've seen she're wrong on some other ship, but she was right on this one, and she was right to stand her ground. And CBS, I hope you'll pay attention to that and don't be going all left and right and sad ways. I don't want to lose her job. I don't. I don't think we should lose her job. I don't watch the talk, but when I if I do turn it on, I'm used to seeing

her sitting there in the middle. I don't. I don't agree with you and what you said that people should be culture, because now they want people should be counseled because now they want to cancel Andrew Cuomo. If we lose Andrew Cuomo from the Democratic Party, the Republicans gonna have one up on us. We didn't cancel the president after all the ship that he pulled for four years. Before we go to that, I want to backtracked on what Nick said because this and this is where I'm

coming from. You feel like they should not cancel or what Well, we're not even get to Cuomo. Le' let's address what you just said first. I haven't. I have a question to ask you. When does the responsibility fall on the racist? Is my question? How how long do we have to continue to counsel people and educate people and give them an opportunity to learn and give them an opportunity to see a different perspective? How long do we have to keep doing that before the responsibility officially

falls on the other party that's committing the act? Because I think that's yeah. I think I think that we have to agree on what's racist though, right, and I think that's where the nuance is. I think that if you counsel someone like a Sharon because I don't think she's standing there burning across in her front yard. I just don't believe that, and I believe there's space to

teach and educate some people. I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water, and I feel like some people really can be an an advocate and an ally. She clearly said what she said, and still to that she kept She's still right there with that. That's what I'm saying, because my thing is she listened to Pierce Morrigan talk mad trash about Megan Marco, and we all know part of it is Megan Marco rejected Pierce Morgan and that's part of the So that's really

the crux of the root of the issue. But he went on national television time and time again, made racist comments, made sexist comments towards her, and just kept berating and bashing her. And she never said anything. She never addressed

him and never acknowed him. And on the heels of an interview that you do with Oprah where you're talking about the racism that you experience within the institution, Pierce is choosing to make comments and still make subliminal racists, you know, make it seem like it's not an issue. And then you have Sharon Osborne she has eyes and ears like the rest of us, and has the same listening skills that everybody does, and probably even better because

she's on a talk show, she holds interviews. She has to be able to dissect hertain information in an appropriate way. For us to sit up here and say, oh, Sharon didn't know she was being racist, I'm so sorry. I know, absolutely not. And I don't have time to counsel Sharon

Osborne about why what she did was wrong. No, and again, I'm not here to defend Sharon either, but I feel like I feel like a woman who works with the diverse cast has hope, and that's just I just feel like Sharon is not lost when I look at her, and we will talk about him later, but when we talk when we talk about the congressman out of Wisconsin, to me, those are very different things, and I feel like Sharon is someone who still can be an ally.

That's all I'm saying. I just feel like that she shouldn't be fired and that there's room to be counseled. I don't think she should be fired, but I'm going to Lauren on that. How at how long do we have to take it? It's been for a hundred plus years that we've been excusing. It's an excuse. Oh, it's just the way things are. It's just the way the things go. It's just Brianna Taylor been then, a year yesterday. It's just the way the things go. Because ain't nobody

been charged for her? Nobody has been brought to put He would put their fee to the fire for what they did to Brianna Taylor, kicking her doe in and killing that woman in her own goddamn be it? So how long do we have to say, Oh, it's a pass. You don't get no fucking past. We don't get done what I see Tell her to call me. And I'm just saying, if you want to in any realm or space, if you want to be an advocate about something, what's the first thing that you do. If you want to

be an advocate? You do your own research. Right, You don't technically necessarily lean on people to become an advocate. You do your research, You have you initiate certain conversations with people, you engage with certain people. You get your own literature to read for better understand ending. You don't put the onus and responsibility on somebody else. To help you become advocate. That's not how advocate. And then how you gonna be petty Pierce Morgan and be mad because

you couldn't get none of that black girl magic. Apparently Megan Marco must got the watch because she made a prince become a commoner. Baby, it's something between her legs. Baby, y'all know nothing about See Pierce Morgan was trying to get him with the taste of that because he would have been because look at Harry here, he got so much swag. Megan Marco, Girl, I'm taking a class when you went outside I signed up at. But but also to speaking on cancer culture, I feel like we can

kind of segue. You brought up Andrew Cuomo flame, so a lot his evolved since last week when we talked about it. So what are your new thoughts around? Don't we not canceling Andrew Cuomo? Not on laugh and learn. I don't care what y'all doing in New York. Understand that there is a method to that madness. And when I say that, if y'all replace Andrew Cuomo as the governor of New York, they're gonna put somebody in there that's gonna try to stop Latitia James or block Lutitia

James from prosecuting Donald Trump. See, there is a whole three sixty two. This Latitia James is the prosecutors that that's out to get Downald Trump from the state of New York. But replacing Cuomo, they will put somebody else there who might block her from doing that. So all the ship that Trump has done, he'll get away with. Understand that there's a method to the madness. Cuomo been the governor for all this time. Ain't nobody came out

and said nothing. But because he's took his stance against the coronavirus, how he stood up for New York and he said maybe people had to wear masks and lock down the city and wooba woo and stop people from traveling. They're still out to get Quomo. That this is backlash from him being a man and standing his ground for being government last March fifteen last year. All this is

just payback. Baby. I'm still team Cuomo. If you felt uncomfortable in the space, and I understand women, you know, if you if I'm in your personal space, if I'm touching you inappropriately, addressed that situation right then and there I'm not comfortable with you being this far up on me. I'm not comfortable with you touching me because we can do that now. You might not have been able to do that ten years ago, but women can do that now and they won't lose their job. They won't be

they don't have to complain. So I'm not comfortable with you being in my space. This is my personal space, and I'm not comfortable. You can say that in a way to where your employer or your boss supposed to understand. I ain't said they're gonna always understand, but they're supposed to understand. But now all this ship is coming out. All this is a smoke screen, you know, kind of like they opened up this country Friday and gave out stimulus checks and told people, y'all can go take your

mask off ghost shop. I drove past them all here Friday. It looked like it was Christmas. Understand that we're still living in a pandemic. The fact the coronavirus is running rampant Florida. It's gonna be right here along beach. Because they was at the mall shopping crazy. I drove past, I went to Big Lives. It was nobody in big um. I mean, I understand all of these news accusers are coming forward and everything and never denying anybody's experience of

what you know they may have encountered. All I'm saying is I want this investigation to play out. I want Latisia James to do her job. I don't think that Andrew Cuomo should resign until the investigation is complete. I will absolutely say that. I know everybody from aoc UM too. I think Chuck Schumer, all of the top you know Democrats are kind of coming out to say he needs to resign. I think that Latisha James do her job, Let's see what happens, and then we can move forward

from there. Those are my thoughts. Yeah, I think, UM, Just to kind of chime in on there, I think, UM, what I never want to do as a six three bald black man, I've never been in a situation where I have had my personal space threatened um by an

employer where I had to feel uncomfortable. So I never want to sit here and act like I understand what women in the workplace go through, because I do believe that women in the workplace deserve to have a safe space to work and engage period, and if for any reason that is threatened or compromised, those who threatened or compromise that position need to be held accountable, regardless of political power, regardless of wealth, regardless of esteem, or regardless

of title. Having said that, I also believe two different things are happening here. I think the Governor Cuomo unfortunately has lost the uh support he needs within his own caucus and from other Democrats. So as a leader, one has to wonder now if for the last eighteen months of this term it feels simply be a lame duck, not really able to push and move forward any legislation. And whether or not the investigation plays out one way or the other, that would be more or less for

any type of legal action down the road. That's not my concern as much as what it is he's doing right now, whether or not he has to support from others within his legislature in order for him to continue to enact policy to you know, help advocate for the state of New York. I'm with Cuomo. Cuomo said that the politicians didn't elect me, the people did. This is

the same ship they do into Joe Biden. Joe Biden been in office fifty three days, sound something sixty days if he if he tied his shoes a different way. Y'all ready to have a hissy fit. I'm telling you we got to pick and choose what's important. Y'all. Not picking it choosing what's important, you'll fight out a bullshit. I don't even know who these women are, and I don't care, and I want to see what they look like, cause Andrew Como is not an unattractive man. See it's

all these ugly but let me start right here. Let me go back. A lot of these ugly bitches keep coming out of times of me and you attracted their men touch them. You should feels some of your ugly bit You should feel privileges that have made it touch it on you because ain nobody else, not in a light ship. You'll be kicking in here. Okay this laughing there, Yeah, okay. If we're trying to bring agains the folks, we don't bring you back. Look at look at this. You'll have me.

He did. That's aw you in the comments. I was like, you got a shirt on. You really must be mad. Come on with come on, okay, let's start. I need a whole twenty minutes. This is you ain't getting that I can do it in fast listen, Kirk Franklin. Here's the problem with Kirk Franklin, and here's the hypocrisy, and from somebody who was again, as I've talked about before, I was the leadership out of Mega Church. I've crossed paths with Kirk Franklin. I've crossed paths with the Tony Max,

the Joe old Steins. Now not that way. I know what you're about, you know, however, Kirk Franklin, let's uh, let's be honest, and I'm not saying anything more than this. Uh, you don't like yourself, which is why you're so mad at life. That's that's the first part. Second of all, when a normal person in the church can't even listen to secular music without having some sort of percussion in the form of you're not allowed to volunteer in this certain ministry. We're gonna put you on a sabbatical for

this amount of time for listening to secular music. Or if you say a customerd and someone overhears you, he goes to the the is the same thing with what happened in New York with the Hill song in New York City pastor Carl Linson and Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber, he was making music about how yummy a women's gen Tell You was, but was leading worship at Carl Lyns's church. So it's the same thing. If you have a platform and if you're somebody big, it doesn't apply to you,

apply to the normal person. So that's why he's getting so much backlash in my opinion, because it's not okay to do that behind closed doors, but then you would persecute somebody else who did that same thing. So that's why a lot of people are upset. And Kirk Franklin has a history of being an ass. He doesn't treat his wife well. I'm not gonna go further, but the point is he deserves it. And I see why his

son did this. I see, well, apparently the son had been used to be and talked to like that, because who thinks to record the conversation. I'm telling you, this boy was accustomed to that. He just nobody probably believed him and he needed to prove it. So now he has proof. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. I just don't think he should have aired it for the world to hear. I mean, if you want proof and you want to maybe take legal action or whatever, whatever, I don't think

you should air I don't care what happens. You don't air your family business out like that, even if you're upset, you just you just don't do that. And that was the land that we grew up on. Don't talk about my house, don't tell what going on in our house. But with reality TV and the world that we live in now everything body knows everything. But I'm not let

me be clear that, let me clarify. I'm not saying be quiet about all family issues, because if there's some other things going on, abuse, sexual abuse, I'm not for keeping that private. If you need to bring that to the forefront to get the situation worked out. That's one thing. This is specific. I'm being very specific in this case saying that I don't agree with his son airing out whatever their conversation is for the public. I don't think he should have done that, no matter that perspect Maybe

I see that, but I appreciate that he did. Be Kirk Franklin does have this ego and it's and you know, I'm really disappointed. And Natasha Cobbs coming out and supporting him and all of these people because it's it's the reason his son came out with this is to let people know what really goes on not only in their house and with their relationship. But in my opinion, the

same thing with Joe Olstin. I'm waiting for stuff without Joe osen to come out, and when it comes out, I'm not going to feel that a little I need a little taste, don't you see in the movie don't give my mouth all right, you leave me a little swallowing, don't make a swallow Listen. I'm not about to have people out in reality know who's watching the past that I have one more thing to say about uh, Cheryl Underwood. Wait, I'll get to Clomo to say, I'll give this a

very second Clombo response. But I feel bad for I don't feel bad for her Underwood because I think, like you said, she did great. But here's where Sharon Osborne fuck up when she put on those tears because automatically, automatically goes into the narrative of the angry black woman making a white woman cry, and America's gonna give sympathy to that white woman. And my problem is is that Cheryl was gracious and saying, I know you. I don't

get this. I don't get these feelings from you, but understand the implication behind the approval, so to say, of Piers Morgan. And so when she put on those tears and made it about her, when have white people been oppressed or been done wrong in this country ever? So, how you have the audacity and the uh, the reason to cry is just beyond me. White people was a pressed and done wrong on January to six in the State of Georgia. Baby lives matter because we took it back. Baby, Seriously,

how did you cry and turn out around? You're saying that As much as I think that Sharon was wrong, Sharon was right when she told Cherry, don't find that cram because Sherrol always does that. You got to go back and watch whenever Shul's back into the wall, Sheryl breaks out crying. She did that, shipped to me on coming of You two thousand five. So Sharon just beat up to the punch inside of craym first, because if Sherry would have started cram first, then black Americans would

have took Sheryl sad. So it was just a matter who was gonna break down for Crow on demand. Place the water out of the bridge. I'm not and I'm not. I'm not a shirl. The way I'm saying to Mark's point is that's just what Sheryl does. Watch the talk. Cheryl will break out cram for no reason. She will every time it's something shut shut, Sharon lose her job or do you believe there's room for redemption. I don't think anyone should lose their job over I again, I'm

so against the whole camel. However, here's what I got voted out exactly exactly. Um, here's my thing with Sharon. I don't think she should lose her job, but here's

what I also see. She works on a cast full of diverse people, and we don't know what goes on off camera, and so if who knows, this could be a feeling that people do have about her, Even though Cheryl went on record saying, you know, I don't have these feelings that you're racist, but I do think there is a time and a place for a company production to to take a step back and say, can we move forward doing what we want to do and our

vision for the show with this person? Given this resspon and given what's going on right now, and so if that means she loses her job, then you know what when you are on a talk show and you don't think twice about what you're seeing. And again, this is not You're not the victims here, someone's giving their story. Megan said she felt that the Palace or whoever those people are, they're racist. Why are you discrediting that that wasn't your experience? She shut Megan. They give him none

of that black girl magic. But let me ask you this, though, Mark, because although Cheryl came out and said that, I'm also thinking too, was there truth behind what she was saying about Sharon or was she just more so concerned about giving her an out and maybe helping her save her job. And I'm only saying that because of what Holly Robinson Pete said. So how how truthful was that statement is my next question? Yeah, I think that I think Cheryl again, and here's why I went back to bringing up the

tears part. I think Cheryl was in a tricky position and why she did so good and she couldn't really go even deeper as a lot of us wanted her to, is because the narrative would have played out even worse than it already is. And so I do think Cheryl, in the back of her mind was like, let me give a little bit of grace and safe face for TV, and that's why she did that. But I wouldn't be

surprised if Sharon, I mean didn't. Wasn't her daughter, the one who, like I was talking about Trump a few years ago and was talking about Mexicans are the one who cleaned your house? Like just made a fucking stupid Yeah, the little fat one like she is, she is funny. Look help you mean? I think that's the difference. You can't defend people. This is what I think. This is where the line is between like what Kelly Osborne, I think that's her name. She said. I considered that. I

considered that racially and sensitive. I don't think that was a racist comment, but it was racially insensitive. But I wouldn't be surprised if behind closed doors, like that's how they talk about different people of different cultures that understand

mark that it's not racially insensitive. They're racists if they're doing it at home, behind closed doors, and then you take it out publicly eventually, if you do it at home long enough, it is going to go into your real life under this is what happened with the whole back to the Kirk Franklin thing. If it happens at home enough, eventually the world is going to find out about it. Kelly, Uh, the Osborne's whatever they're practicing at home,

the ship is just resonating. Sharon Osborne was foul, She was wrong. She tried to say where she did corner Shure. I did love that part when she told, sure, don't sign that crying because I got to be the first one of crap it so they can fall in love with me first I get there. I understand you. This is a game of chess, and I don't want to

lose my job. That's what that was all about, because Sherlwood they were to have fired sherl Sherlotte is a black woman on that show, and she wasn't the last high And even though I think that show is irreplaceable on the Talk because I love her on there, whenever I do decide to watch it, that don't mean that

they won't get rid of her ass. Because the climate that we live in and the racism that is so prevalent in this country right now on the Trump's regime, even though that nigga is still gone, but he still got a power. They were to fire Sheerl. Sharyl was smart and the way she handed that she was very tactic. Sharon Osborne, Sharon Osborne was just racist and she didn't

want to admit that. Pierce Pierce Morgan, not only was he did he make racist, disparaging comments, but he he showed that he was a broken man because if you don't even like black women, you couldn't get this black woman to go with you. And you, Pierce Morgan, you rich, you wipe, you powerful, you gotta show. But she didn't want your ass, except that she didn't want your ass, nigga, and keep it pushing, because that's all that is. She didn't want you. She wanted a prince here. And and

Cheryl said it just exactly right. She said, it's the implicate. It's not necessarily that you're seeing something racist, it's what you're implying. And the same thing with you know what I started on Pierce Morgan's ass last week was he said, you know, people might have this conversation about what color their baby might look like. People do say that, like, that's you, that's you literally giving a dog whistle to somebody, like making them feel like it's okay that this is happening.

Like no one says that, like I can never imagine a family having that. Well wait a minute, mark, because if me and you had a baby together and the baby came out navy, purple, blue, black, I'm gonna think that you was cheating on me because I'm like brown and you like skiing. Baby should be at least somewhere. But that's that's that's after the fact. That's after the fact, not before. And then again like with the whole title situation, which I don't know how the monarchy whatever you call

them work, but period. And I'm just gonna wrap up with this thirty seconds about Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo has a long history of this behavior, and it's I know someone personally who's been impacted by it, and I it's not my place to say anything, but I think the problem you keep giving out too many tangibles and then not giving out the information. I'm gonna come to your house and fight you when you come over. When you come over, you get every everything you get the tea.

But my thing with Cuomo is would get it all baby. I liked it, I said thirty seconds. Listen, Cuomo messed up when he ousted the previous eternal attorney general because when allegation came out one by the way, he said that he needed to resign and step down. And so that is clarma binding him in the ass. Because now you have seven people, one person with a very incredible story. A lot of people are pointing to um, there's a supposedly footage, and people who were there and aware of

what was going on, we're taking videos and pictures. Cuomo now is foot is in his mouth because this is what you said before and this is not what you're saying about yourself. And so with Cuomo, you know again I don't like politicians. And the fact that he made the comment. You know, I'm not part of the political game or I'm not in the political circle. You've been in politics your entire life. You've handed the position from your given your father's record. Let me just say that.

So don't act like you're not a dirty swamp creature, because you are. Chris Pam won't come to your house and let me let's listen, de legitimize people still got elected. Come on, Mark, we can't de legitimize that he did. The people did still elect him. They still elected him. And I mean, but it is a legacy thing. I will give you that. You know, Okay, his father was a beloved governor before him, but the people still elected

Cuomo too. We gotta give him that. I just think that again it's karma binding him in the ask And my problem is really when you listen to him talk about it, and when the press tries to ask him questions, it's his ego that's at the at the front line. Were just there were four years of a nightmare. But I attacked him, but I attacked to him. I'm gonna get I don't outside listen. I don't. I don't. I don't have side. You know this about me? I don't. I can call out the clown, but again I also

will call out Cuomo. And this is the thing. The fear cannot be of who might take his position. It's the fact that we need to and I'm always say this. I said the same thing with Kavanaugh. Yes, the process needs to play out. But the tricky part for Cuomo right now is what he said on record before. So that's all I'm gonna say. But wait a minute, and we're gonna hold people accountable for ship they see it in the past. Oh my god, I want to even be sitting here right now. In fact, I'm even in

two minutes anyway, but I wouldn't be saying here. But if I saying some outrageous shit, that should I regret some though. But I'm not a politician, but I am in the public eye, and I'm not knocking Cuomo for what he said because at the time that's how he felt. I'm not saying that what is true or not you because I'm not one of those women that accused him

and I wasn't there. But I'm giving Cuomo the benefit of the doubt because what I'm what I'm trying to get people to understand that to see is that if we do this to Cuomo, we're gonna do this to Joe Line. Joe By have been the president for sixty days. What are we gonna through just counsel everybody make a fucking mistake. Well no, because look with Joe Biden, what had happened when they when that who was that that that lady who came out yes, I said, Listen, I

don't like this. He's been in politics for how long, and all of a sudden you're coming out. And I got in trouble for that because I'm not a female. I don't know what it's like to come out with my story. So I get that aspect of it. But I said the same thing with Kavanaugh. I said, I'm gonna say the same thing with Colombo. Yes do process is important because you don't want to set a culture where someone could come out and say something and you're

automatically guilty. That's not what our system was set up for. However, when you say two years ago that this person needs to resign and he was so in the front line about all these other people and now ships and your happening in your backyard, and you have a different opinion, that's the problem that you know what that's going to do, though, Mark, That's going to open up the floodgates for everybody to start just to you want to get rid of somebody

just have a woman accused him of being inappropriate. Where where do we stop it? Where do we draw the line? Because some people may be telling the truth and some people may just make up a lie to get rid of you. We have to find out like they say, you're innocent and too a proven guilty. But that's not the case here. Everybody is guilty now until proven innocent. Well that's why we say, let Laticia James do her job. Unlet's see what happens. Let's just let's let this play out.

Let it play out, unless see what receives come forward, what the investigation says. And I'm very comfortable with the fact that Latisia James and the special uh investigator or prosecutor. Yeah, that person has a pass of taking down formal allies. So I do think we will get a fair investigation into what happened. Well, we thank you you hands. I will see you in two weeks, right, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you Mark. I want you with a T shirt

and no panties zone. Yeah, lord, Mark, do me a favor. And because I don't know how to get people out of here, thank you, thank you, thank you Mark. That's Florida. I think the title of this show will be Swamp Creature. I love you, I love you, Lorie Hogan. I gotta show to do. I gotta go. Yeah, black travel Black

can I don't see y'all next week. We maybe we do love lounge snick because I got the similarst check you'll act of funny, but I gotta show to do uh with white folks with Mr white Man, Miss white Man said coming here, and Miss white Man paying a little bit more than y'all paying today, So I'm out. I love you Lauren? Hey, damn? How are you are you doing? I'm good? How are you, Laurie? Hi? Neck? Hey, good to see you. Good, see you too? So are you jumping that rope? Being all fancy? It ain't no joke.

Don't play with it. Don't play with it. We're losing too many people. We talk to us about it. We brought up a couple of conversations and topics today. I want to know your thoughts sound off for us? Well, Uh, the Cuomo saying, let's look at it like this. Hey, everybody, we're talking about it. I think a political hit is going on. Um, sure, Cuomo is part of a They're all part of political machines. I think that's what we don't read. Uh, we don't remember that they're are debts

that have to be paid. People have to realize that, Uh, people did things before that they didn't like and people hold grudges, and you know, things are timed a certain way. So I think this is a First of all, I think this is a political hit. Second of all, let's just wait for the investigation to come out, because I heard this interesting thing you know about politicians. It's like, uh, innocent and a politician, are they? They don't go together? True, true,

diametrically opposed to one another. Absolutely got you. Yeah, yeah, So you know, that's just how it is. But it's very interesting about the timing of all these allegations that you know, he was the hero last year and now he's the dirt under people's seat. And you know, but you know one thing about Cuomo. He don't run from a fight. He don't play no games. It's like, come on, come get me. Let's see how this plays outam. I think what's also interesting is how we've seen so many

people pile on. I watched this diet try from Bill de Blasio because if you remember, Cuomo went after Bill de Blasio when Bill de Blasio wasn't doing so well in New York. Not that he's super popular now, but Bill de Blasio, all his behavior absolutely disgusted me and he needs I was like, whoa, Let's let's just clarify that though I don't know if any mayor in the City of New York that is liked Okay, all mayors get booed in the City of New York. Let's just

let's be honest about that. Okay. Eventually, Pam, I want to get you the sound out for me. I do want your opinion. Do you believe in a situation like a Sharon Osbourne, is there redemption or do you're like, what are your thoughts on the Osbourne underwe situation? You know what to I want to emphasize everyone, let's when we see these things, let's look at the entire interview. Let's look at the entire show, not these chopped up bits and and um clips, because that's a part of

the manipulation. Look at the whole entire thing, and then let's talk about it. Okay. But anyway, from when I saw girl, honey, she she she she, she welpt like a hit dog got hit by truck. Immediately immediately, even with the preface of Cheryl saying, look, you're my friend, I know how you think, she still went off. You know, her friend. I know she's friends with Pierce Morgan. She's probably she's been friends with Pierce Morgan's for a hundred years before she even got on the view, I mean,

on the talk. But she did not understand where they all heard her mates were coming from. And I think when she goes back and looks at it, and I think maybe that's why she apologized to I am gonna give her a benefit of the doubt on that, and she shouldn't, but she should look at her really look at her behavior, look at her response. Anallized it herself,

look at herself. You know how you you and Lauren and then and you guys look at yourself on tape right to to see I know, Nick, probably you do when you had your other days, when you were in another line, you look at yourself to see what was going on with yourself, what you said, how you said,

what's your response was? What can I do better? I think a lot of these people they need to look at themselves and how they're coming off, because when you're in the moment, you don't realize, hey, you know, and then you go back and look at it, like, oh my goodness, I went off. I did I said this. My reaction was a little maybe I need to check myself. Maybe I need to think about what I said, or how I did, or how I respond. And I think more than anything in those situations like that too. Um

and then I'll go ahead and wrap it up. It's one of those things where I don't understand why people can at least try to hear what the person is saying and at least give of friends like you that's Lauren. There you go, all right, there you go, yep, yep,

because I'm thinking that you're simply telling me. I think one of the things that bothered me most with all of that is how quickly people were ready to dismiss Let's forget about the baby color, the fact that here's this woman saying I was having a mental health issue. Oh no, you weren't. Shut up. Get out of here, get out here with that. This is why we don't talk about it. This is why people are ashamed to say. You know, I'm Lauren, I'm not feeling that wealthy. I'm

a little down. Hey, let me just check on you. You're gonna attack me. You want to attack me for feeling my feelings instead of saying having a moment of empathy and thought, and then after the person tells you more, if you feel like you got to attack them or think left of very motion, then you do it, but ready to jump on it. It's like, you're gonna tell me that I don't feel like I was being attacked. You don't want to tell me my feelings, Well, this

is tell me my feeling. Well that's what I'm I think, that's what we're all trying to express. Your pam is a simple fact that Sharon probably never had to think about that. She never really had to think about her repercussions because when she had that privilege and she had that status on that network, she never had to think about it, nor did she feel like, oh, I'm gonna get all this backlash around this. It took her coming after a minute. Megan Markle that all of a sudden,

now she's trying to re evaluate everything. But that goes to what I said earlier in terms of it's not our job to have to educate people. You should have known that. That's what privilege gets you to get you in these situations where now you've got to address how you're actually acting and how you've been and what you've been doing towards other people. So it was just her time. It was her. And you know what, the ass always rises to the top, the cream, the cream I will

eventually rise to the top. You gotta look at you can't act like the cream ain't there. Oh I don't see the cream. I don't see the ship. I eventually you've got to see it and you gotta smell it and acknowledge it and your owness and it. But exactly, But that's the problem, a big It's like no one if the first if your first reaction is to yelped like a dog, then you've got some examining to do for yourself. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what

we need to do. We need more than talking about We've got to examine our ship. On our ship. Everybody does, especially white people, than their stuff, period, all right, and everybody got on they stop, Pam, I love you by bye, y'all. Not note. I mean, I think we can kind of wrap up. I know we had some other topics to discuss, but I don't think there's any problem with rolling over to next week because they're still gonna be relevant next

week anyway. So yeah, you know, one of them. Again, I just want everyone to know that if you liked what people have to say, or if you have something that we miss, we do want you to comment on the show and make sure that you leave that comment, you know, because that helps people to find the show. So we really enjoyed that because at the end of the day, like we talked about all the time with Flame when she is here, we are not trying to get anybody to change their mind. We're simply only trying

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