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are starting off this show with your bank bang. We appreciate you guys joining in and yeah, with your bank bang, and we want you guys to chime in because the conversation may go a little left today. I'm gonna trying to keep it light, but some things you just can't make light up. We're gonna just talk about it. Where's our nick? Is our nick? Here because we had a very interesting week. What happened this past week or this past week? I got my name? Didn't talk about that?
Last money was that last month that I happened that? That was last Monday after the laughallon that I got my name on the wall. Oh no, you didn't talk about it. You went to go do that after so talk about it. Hello, Nicholas, good afternoon. How are you two doing. I was inducted into well, I don't know if there's a documentary coming out for the Comedy Store. Yeah, I was so. I was inducted into the Wall of Fame at the Comedy Store. So my name is amongst
so many legends, and I was great. I feel great about that. Thank you a guy Tory for making it happen. And Reginald Hundling of the Hullan Brothers Boomerang House Party. He was the director of that. We had a great time, lou Nell. So many legends were their Affian Crock Kids, the entertainer, Guy Tory, Joe Tory, Um Kim Whiley just so many, myri j So thank you for me making
me a part of that. Rest in peace, speaking of comedians to the last of the of a dying breed, the last of the greats, which was Paul Mooney, who passed on just past week. Um wow. And I did an interview with Tasha K the day before he passed, and we had just talked about Paul Mooney. She asked me who I admired. I told her the story of how I met him and who he was and what he said to me. But I'll tell you guys that later. Well, y'all watched Tasha K's interview when we when she drops it,
I think it's Thursday. So yeah, Paul Mooney was the last of that era of the George Carlins and the uh oh, Dick Gregory's and the h Richard Pryor five Foxes and the wand the Page and so many others. So yeah, they're having a memorial for him this Thursday. I'll be there. They're having the tribute. I'll be the fat, pretty one. I want to wear this. I might wear this head, but I want with this out, this shirt, this shirt. This is not complimenting me at all. Don't
look like I'm about to run track. Serious, my week was good. Two things that you just mentioned I want you to kind of expound on those if you would. For those who don't know, why was it so important to being be included amongst these other comedians um at the recognition? Why was that so important to you? We all played a part in the night at the Comedy Union, I mean God, good guy at the Comedy Store on
Tuesday night called Fat Tuesdays. They used to be hosted by a guy Tory, and a lot of black comedians or other comedians could not get on the main stage in the belly room at the Comedy Store, so they created a night call Fat Tuesdays, and it was for everyone. It was for blacks and Tino and I was an anomaly,
but guy gave me a couple of opportunities. I actually met Kevin Harthy and worked with him on the show there, and it just they inducted me into that and they asked me my story and how it went down, and
it was great. It was. It was dope. So for all the beatings that I took in the comedy world that you guys will never know about, because I was abused, not abused physically, but the name called Ling and the austraization and all that, baby, all of them knows, I got that one Yes, y'all can go to hell because that one yes feel better than all y'all know. I just wanted y'all to know that we have to I'm on the main wall outside eye level. So when you're
walking past, you say Flame Monro. So if you want to touch me, touch me lo every time you touch my name on the wall, and I just want to say congratulations. I feel like I feel like flame. I've just watched this journey for so long. I remember seeing your perform in places that smell more like fried chicken than anything else, you know, and so I know that the struggle is real. You have worked the circuit. You have really, you have worked your way there. None of
it has been given to you. Some congratulations. I was a grave digger. Thank you. Welcome, Welcome, Flame man. We want you to chime in the conversation. Gonna get heated today a little bit, but we all want to start. Hivy, where were you going there? You take the lead. I'm
gonna let you start. Well, I'm gonna let you be the top today, Lord, and I'm gonna start with how the feedback we got from this past week, people said, Nick, we need to see you in the studio more often, and I got a lot of compliments on my Black Effect hat, So I will be wearing that every time from that once, since everybody said I looked better and did what he said, did y'all did y'all read between lanes, He'll be wearing the hat every time. He said he
was gonna be in the studio everywhere. Okay, I just want to make sure y'all heard that, because I ain't never wrong and around with me, I just looked like that. I'm just saying I haven't gotten my hat yet, so yeah, we haven't gotten I haven't got my hat yet. On the sweatshirts, because we got some Black Effects sweatshirts, Nicholas ordered one for me and one for Lauren. He ordered man too big and hers too small. Please don't ask a man for a woman's size for anything. Yeah, don't
don't ask a man for a woman's size. Black Effect Network, Oh my god, don't do that. Uh yeah, because I truly thought that was perfect. You know. Um, let me go ahead and just start jump right down. Remind I want to jump in there, you know. We one of the criticisms we've been talking about with the Biden administration many have been saying he had not been doing enough for African Americans, for people of color. They want to
see more, They want to see more of wine, wine wine. Right, Well, Joe Biden said, you know what, guess what I have been I think that there's something to be said for quiet diplomacy, Like I think that we're so used to a former administration that needed to beat the chest and bang the walls so let you know everything that they were doing. And it seems like Joe Biden has been doing the work and worrying less about the praise or acknowledgement from those in the peanut gallery. Joe Biden just
passed um moving forward with support for minority farmers. There are a number of black farmers who have had their land stolen or have been in deep financial debt because of just systemic issues that have kept them from being economically viable. So many black farms have been underwater financially, and families have struggled or have fallen out of the business. After are having this land or this business for generations. Well,
the Biden administration just went ahead with the windfall. The government is offering to pay off more than two dollar farm loans two different African American and Indigenous farmers who have been systemically uh disproportionately affected by policies in the United States, either by having their land seized or have not had the same economic opportunities as some white farmers. And it's just one of the little things that he felt needed to be done to try to right a wrong,
a type of reparations. And I just thought that we should acknowledge the fact that there are several black farmers who will benefit from this. What you got to say, Laurence, I know I hear. And let me tell you how I feel about the situation, because I, like I said, give by the chance. We can't expect him to work a miracle in a damn month. Y'all asked one a miracle in a month. I'm glad he's reached out to do something. I appreciate that I'm not I'm tamed by.
I'm just giving. I'm giving them, I'm giving them a chance. I'm not giving them a pay. Yeah, I I'm all for giving Biden in this administration a chance. I voted for Joe Biden. I think the problem that we run into because similarly, the same thing that happened this week is there was a huge bill that was passed on anti Asian hate, and I think that's where the problem
comes in. I'm going to play Devil's advocate here because that bill was passed in a matter of like two months from when the incidents happened around you know, people attacking those of the Asian community, to something getting passed in the Senate. But then like I read today that, for instance, the George Floyd bill that was supposed to
be passed on is not going to happen. So well, I think it's great that Biden's Biden's making these slow strides, and I'm not putting everything on him, but unfortunately, it's like guilt by association because this is his administration and the fact is certain things are getting passed for other communities and the things that need to be passed for us, the Black unity is not happening, and we're the ones
that elected him. So I think that's where we're going to continue to run into some friction with voters really because we can't get nothing past for us. But you know, he's he's like, oh, you know, he's making small strides and so yeah, that's great and all, but where's you know, it's like, where's our legislation? I think you're speaking about that, lord, And you're not a rapper, you're not a famous artist. You're not because they're awfully inquired right now, you know,
those hold the vote ones? Hello Williams? Can you now? Can you now? Can you now? Because they all died silent right now? Now? When the primaries come next year and it's time to vote again, I don't want y'all jumping out the woodwork talking about black folks, hold your vote, black folks, what they did for the black agenda, because if the black agenda is now, you niggas is quiet, So the black agenda is moving forward, y'all not if you ain't talking about it now, we don't want to
hear later. There's an old fable that me and Ms. Rosetta love very much. If you didn't help me break the bread, don't be here to help me eat it. I'm gathering the ingredients right now, the yeast and the flour and the sugar and the salt and the oven and all that. If you niggas ain't saying it now, and I'm talking to you, and you know who I'm talking to because you know who you were that came
out the woolworks telling us the whole out vote. Imagine if we had held out vote, the situation that we would be in right now where they're telling us what I'm looking at. You ain't telling me I've seen it. I got my good glasses on. But you tell me on January to six that that was a tourist attraction. Nigga, if you don't knock it off, and I'm talking to the white boy, nigga, if you don't knock it off. Yeah, that's just I mean. And like I said, I'm playing
Devil's advocate here, and like I'm not blaming Joe. I'm not putting Joe Biden specifically at fault for this, but like I said, he's guilty by fault. It's his administration, you know what I mean. And so it's just it is what it is. You know, black folks need something, and a nice anti lynching bill that's been in the Senate for over two hundred years. Getting that past might be a good first start, just throwing that out there.
So did you see where Caitlin Jenner tried to attack the transgender woman that your body and the pointed as the doctor to say that she was unattractive and woo woo woo. Uh big Bruce, big pimpin have you looked at yourself? That's before doing and after you were gonna? How dare you try to throw somebody upunder the bus while you're walking around here looking like lurch if you don't knock at all? I ain't vote for you either, O g BT friendly, but not for you pimping. You
ain't my you. You're a Republican. They don't even won't your gass and you're too stupid to see it. But you just keep on driving that kind of putting on your lipstick. But don't nobody cross the street while she's driving. The bitch is a dangerous driver. She too one out come on it's that kind of day, baby, And I ain't even had no huh we all remember flame this. This followed miss generous comments about why all of her friends are leaving l A because the homeless situation is
so unsightly it makes them uncomfortable. Sow they leave in l A because she got a driver's license. That's why they leave in l A. Because they gave Caylin the driver's life and she will run your ass over and kill you like she ain't need to before. I ain't saying nothing that ain't happening before. So you know, y'all get to be a old flame. You're this, I'm saying, what the trunk is the truth? When my troops come out,
I'm gonna be like, I surely did. I do think that that's a good point, though, Nick, because that's actually something that like my dad is dealing with being on the fire department. You've got all of these like posh nash like you know, white people. I'm just call it as what it is in these different areas that are complaining about the homelessess situation and saying that they're invading their neighborhoods, and it's baffling to me because it's like, well,
what are you guys gonna do about it? They're homeless for a reason, it's not their fault. So I just think that that's something else needs to be addressed. We have a homeless epidemic in California, for sure, a good weather and Flame was mentioning just so people who know what we're talking about. Flame was talking about specifically referencing Dr. Rachel Levine, who Caitlyn Jenner kind of made an ugly
transphobic remark about her not being an attractive woman. So now, real talking, now, real talk, We're gonna We're gonna do it. You know, I'm gonna do it all the way. I'm gonna be fair on both sides. What's her name? Uh Dr Rachel Levine or now. She may be smart as a whip, but she definitely looked like the Quake a oats Box, which when we was growing up, you remember the man on quake Olas. She definitely get now, but that don't mean she Bruce. You don't get a pass
to say it. You know what, I know? Who ya? You remember the Quake a oats Box? Right? That's what you're speechless, old Meal on Saturday morning because you didn't get everything you got serial, but you got ome on Saturday morning. You'll remember the old you know with the white hair you're talking about? Come on, where we are? Where we are? Two things I want to make sure we hit on today and then we can, of course move forward. But the two things I think are necessary
to mentioned. The guards in the Epstein situation. I don't know if you all saw this, but they both took plea deals what where they will be able to avoid jail time. And I'm specifically talking about if you'll remember uh Epstein who was found uh dead by suicide in his cell. Uh So, uh Michael Thomas and Tova Noel were charged with lying on their prison records to make it seem like they had made the required checks and they actually had not. It looks like they were surfing
on the internet and that kind of fallen asleep. But what's important to mention in all of this, I think it's more than anything, they both have been working sixty eight hours that week. Because the facility is is notoriously understaffed, because the staff is underpaid, so they have a hard time retaining staff. Those who are on the payroll are often required to work over time, and in this particular situation, both um Michael Thomas and Toba Nol had both done overtime.
They were unlike the third day of overtime and we're simply exhausted. So all of it fell on them that because they had not done the check, the reason they had to take a plete deal. They were charged for not having done that, done the rounds falsifying that they had done the rounds, and because they had not done the rounds, it is suggested that they could have prevented Mr Epstein from taking his own life, uh in his cell.
I don't think that it's necessarily their fault because I think the fact that they're underpaid and understaffed it takes a toll on people, and I think that that should kind of trickle up the ladder to whoever is responsible for that. I don't think it should necessarily fall on him, however, or them, excuse me. I do think though that um, it hasn't been proven that Jeffrey Epstein is dead. I am a conspiracy theorist on this subject. But saying all that to say is I don't think that the guards
necessarily should be at fault. Okay, you say the key words. They were underpaid and they had worked forty to sixty hours a week. If you underpaid me, and I'm working from working from hands amount from paycheck to paycheck. But then I get an email from a strange, random whatever whatever, We're gonna give you a hundred thousand dollars to go to an extra thirty minutes to lunch wherever this thing happens. Guess what I'm taking the hundred thousand. They already agreed
to the plea deal. They're not gonna do jail time. The money is probably somewhere sitting up because I'm gonna say what I said that Nigga ain't dead. He had way too much money and two days before his alleged suicide he transferred the money to somebody else. Everybody was paid off. I believe my conspiracy theory that had he been dead, he I know they got a Max, said Maxwell. But he sent that information and he held the he held the keys to the city. He knew what the
bodies was buried. He sent that information to somebody that nobody else knew about that. He knew love and trusted if everything ever had anything and with the note if anything happens in my demise released this has it been released that Nigga is in a cave with an underaged girl. Both officers regarding Epstein and we're working overtime because of staffing shortages. One of the guards, who did not primarily work as a correctional officer, was working a fifth straight
day of overtime. The other guard was working mandatory overtime, meaning a second eight hour shift in the single day. But Nick, don't you smell that. You smell that, You smell that lat up under that. So this is a man who everybody in the car. He could bring down the end, He could bring down billions of lots of people. He could bring down dynasties because of all information he had, y'all put him in a place that's understaff. Hear me,
hear this, it's understaff, they're working over time. He should have been like like the head and Scandal, he should have been in the room where you could see everything he's doing twenty four hours a day. That was all the conspiracy to me, why would y'all send him there when it's a lot To me, I just I smell it. But but you know here, even in Scandal, Candy Alexander got away what not what's her name is? Mother? That's different,
it's different. They put him in a place where they knew he was going to be able to get away. It was to me, I think the whole thing was a set up. Well, technically, that's supposed to be one of the most secure facilities, right, um and understand understaff and overwork. Yeah, yeah, Well I'm flame. I'm just I'm listening to you what you tell you're reading it, but I'm listening and I'm reading between the lines as you
saying it. Right. I just think that, um, I do think that things like this feed into the ideas of conspiracies because it leaves so many questions unanswered. How this man had routinely had he not had a pattern of seemingly escaping justice time and time again. That prosecutor in Florida who kind of turned his back and and let Epstein get away with things that normal people would not have gotten away with it us indeed, um caused one to question, uh the uh how voracious they were? Is
that the same facility Chapel escape from? Oh? Good question that I don't know that. I don't know that. I don't know, but I'm just saying even I don't know if there's any such thing as a secure facility, because like remember, Alcatraz was like the most secure thing ever in life, right, and six people escaped and it's on a freaking island. So is anything actually secure is really the question these days? So I mean, it is what
it is. I want to just touch on something we kind of we were breached on earlier, and then I will seed the floor because I know there's a lot you all want to cover as well. But we were talking about the police reform bill, and one of the things that popped out of me. I had this conversation with Flame earlier, and I thought it was important to mention that President Biden his administration is pushing to push forward this police reform bill. They had hoped to get
it done by the anniversary of George Floyd's death. I told Flame smart and said, I cannot believe it's been a year. It just doesn't It seems like it is. Um It literally seems like it was more recent than that, right, I say that to say. Maxine Waters was on yesterday and she talked about how she couldn't care less about a deadline. She said, forget the deadline. If pat if meeting a deadline means they're only going to get part of what we need, then I'm not worried about a deadline.
She says. I want it all. I want a band of the chokeholes. I want a registry where officers who are fired for bad practices are not allowed to be rehired in the next city over. I want I want things that we can actually see that are tangible that can make a difference and a change in the community. She's suggesting that we get rid of the idea of worrying about a deadline and focus more on the fact that we get the things that are needed so that those who are being policed by the police can feel
comfortable in their communities. And I just thought that that was something to also keep in mind as we wait to see what the Biden administration will do in the
area of police reform. I don't agree with that. I love anti Maxine and everything, but I don't agree with that because I think if we start getting into this space of we don't need deadlines, I mean, I understand the thought of making sure we get everything in the bill, but if we start, you know, ignoring said deadlines are kind of creating a strategic plan of when we should roll things out, we get into a situation where it's two hundred years later. I just mentioned this and we
still don't have an anti lynching bill passed. So I understand, you know, in the foundation or the root of what she's saying, of course, we want everything in the bill, but I still feel like, you know, timetable should still be set forth in order to get things done. Otherwise it'll just be in limbo forever in a day and nothing gets past, and then we have instances where people feel like you know, as black folks, were not getting
our dues. And Lauren, I think you and I both worked in the area of comms where you have a strap plan for a reason. Exactly, you have these clear benchmarkers, and when you don't hit area one, you can go back and say, hey, what's happening here that we haven't hit one, so we can move on to two and three. Exactly. There are comedy value to having a strap. But coming in from another angle of that, I get what she's saying,
because we want something done. Like you said, we don't need a timeline, but we've been waiting already two hundred years to get this pass. So if we can get something done that will keep us moving forward, I would appreciate that, but just not the most minute ship, because what they will do is past the most minute things as opposed to the stuff that we really need, like police reform. We really need police reform done. And if you don't think that we need police reform done, turn
on your news. I don't care where you live. Turn on your news. I don't care what state or city you living in, turn on your news. Well I will say is that there is a sweeping police form, you know, happening across the country. I was also watching that today. I know, like Colorado is passing something and you know, we talked about New Jersey saying that they want to end qualified immunity and they've kind of taken some steps, you know, towards that. So police reform is definitely a
hot topic right now. So it's interesting to see, you know, at the state and local levels what they can get past legislatively. Um so something's in the works, but it works a long time. Well, I think it's different this time. I think it's different this time. Yeah, I think it's different this time because in the past, I don't feel like police, you know, brutality has ever been on such a global level at this point. I think that we've gotten other you know, countries and states involved, and it's
a it's a universal issue at this point. It's it's across the board. So I think that because there's so much more buying at this particular point in time, that something's going to MANA can I say before we move forward heads off to a common Lana way, and the producers of the shot and the actors and characters of the show which started. That's not because they talked about this. They actually played a scene out or where the two young black boys were walking out here and the police
came and slammed them and beat them and movable. Because we as much as we say we don't, you know, I tell you I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. We need to see it. We need to see that it's really happened. And I appreciate them acknowledging. Have you changed your stance? I kind of changed my stand. I hate to take it into my DNA per suddenly, but now I realized that I need to see it because then it it flares something
up in me. Now I'm not gonna go watch Roots and then go outside and it's just stop fighting white people. That's white on both as me. But seeing it makes it um not believable because I believe that was happening anyway, but it makes it more real to it. It makes it real to me. And when I saw that on the shot, I was like, that could be my son, that could be my daughter, you know those could be
my nephews. It's it's it's scary. But thank you for at least putting it because that's what normally used to do in the sevenies. He put it in your face. Putting it in your face make you acknowledge it makes it real. Two things, And I'll just throw this out there. I saw on your favorite network, Flame, which is because you watch it all the time, CNN. I see the
CNN just released one of your favorite commentators, Rick Santorum. Um, why it looks like Rick Santorum I had a bit of an uh racist comment moment about Native Americans and how uh I guess he has quoted as saying, uh, we birth of the nation from nothing. I mean there was nothing here. Um. I mean, yes, we have Native Americans, but candidly, there isn't much Native American culture and there's isn't much Native American culture in American culture. Native Americans
have contributed nothing. He got fired right. Uh they let that was a bridge too far. You and your sweater vests can gold. What was what was his quote? There was nothing here? Yeah, the indigenous people were here, y'all came, so that was that's what brought nothing here because y'all came and raped and pillaged and killed and the main, the main what they called it when they cut you up, what they call the ship. Yeah, all of that, and
then Bro brought syphilis and diseases here. You're right, there was nothing here until y'all came, because y'all were nothing and brought nothing. Did this sound mean, Because that's the true cause Indigenous people created this country. Baby, y'all stole it from now Pocahontas and John Stantus was sucking on the low, and y'all got mad because that white boy had liked that little Mexican uh huh, and y'all had
got mad. Let me even talk about at least long and just to let you know how people don't when people people don't really care for you. It looks like, you know, he campaigned for his can campaign for his job back, but quote leadership wasn't particularly satisfied with his appearance, and none of the anchors of any of the shows wanted to book him, so he was essentially shown the door. Listen and I know Seeing and is your favorite network flame, so I'm happy it's not my favorites. They just have
ch and Andy Cohen and Cooper. Um, I was say this, and you know, I think we may we may start to accuse you of having an attraction to a certain hue. No, that's not true, not coming from you. Oh Lauren. You know what, Lauren, I tried to find some cover. Ola. I had a Mr. Crabs moment. Oh my god, you have smelling sauce because I just I just got knocked out. So I'm go ahead now, and wow, I'm a shift back to what we were saying. Um, what I was
talking about CNN, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad that they took these steps to do the right thing because, Um, I've attended things like n a b J, which is the National Association of Black Journalists, and historically CNN has been voted the most uh, non diverse network. So to see them kind of making me try because that's that's that's very recent. So I'm glad to see that they're making sure that they do the right Wait a minute, you just said something. What did you say
about what is it called the NABJ. So that was a great segue to what I want to speak about at Chicago and Lory Lightfoot because Lory Lightfoot is on the fire right now because she made a statement saying that after her two year anniversary as the mayor of the City of Chicago, that she would only speak with black journalists or journalists of color. And they want to hand her asks about that. But let me let me give you my point on that. Should she have said
it needed to be seen. Maybe she didn't say it the way that they wanted her to say, but I don't know if there's another way to say it. Here's my thing, y'all say it, y'all do it. Why as Lorie wrong for saying that she only wants to sit down with black journalists because maybe they will give her a fair shake, maybe they will print exactly what she said how she said it, as opposed to making it what you wanted to be for sensationalism in the media.
I do not fault a Lorry lightfool for that. I know y'all given her a hard time in Chicago, but y'all voted for her. Give her a chance, y'all. Y'all got to remember that she walked into ship. She didn't come into a job that was already laid out and ready for her. She walked into ship after dealing with roman Manuel was foolishness, and y'all want to keep holling
roman Manue was this, and ram Mann was that. Roman Manuel threw up gang signs every time he got on the news media because they got a gang in Chicago called the Earl Rookings and they throw up three fingers and roman Manuel only got three fingers, so he really can't throw up the fourth form, so he only got three fingers, so he was throwing up gang signs on the load that's called dog whistle. Y'all come up off. Mayor Lord Lightfoot, she I think it was fair. I
personally think it was fair. And they was two years ago. They just had a big thing on the red carpet where a lot of black artists would not stop and talk to the black media. So now y'all mad because she said she only wants to talk to the black media. Bullshit um or And this is in the words of Easter Ray, I'm rooting for everybody black, So I think
this is great that she did that. Mayor Lifefoot said, if I as a the black woman mayor, the first ever, don't change and challenge us and challenge the collective us to do better, to really make sure that in every institution it reflects the diversity, nuance, and texture. Shame on me.
And so she she's stuck with it, and she wanted to make sure, UM that UH, journalists of color were given an opportunity to have their stories reflected in the press, and she did not feel like that that was happening. So and I think it's important too though, because even when you know, we've had like April Ryan on the show, she's talked about how hard it was to be in these spaces and to be a black journalist, and you know all the doors she had to kick in and
really just stand up for herself. So I applaudli Laie Lightfoot for even doing that and giving other black journalists an opportunity to be in these spaces when in a lot of instances those spaces may not be provided to them. You know, she's creating a seat at the table for them. So I say kudos to her. Yeah, and I can just say, UH, having worked in media for years, UM is extremely competitive and to uh more often than not
when you're on these national stories and all. No shade to Jake Tapper, and the rest, but Jake Tapper flows into the room. It's it's one of those things where the focus immediately shifts to, you know, uh, the the bigger faces that people see all the time. So it's definitely one of those things too. It's it's interesting, and I have to believe that it's um it's a positive step forward to know that the journalists of color um deserved the same level of access. So yeah, speaking of sharks,
we gotta go there, y'all. So this week was very rough in the news for me because I watched see any End that y'all are telling me about, and they showed um, um what was the name was it? Richard Ronald Ronald Green? The murder Ronald Green, that they clearly see it that they told his mom, I'm telling you, and I hadn't seen the video before I seen his
mom's testimony. His mom came on and talked about that they had told her that her son was killed in the hit on impact, um a hit on collision on impact. And then we saw the video come out where they beat this man and where they tortured this man, put his face on the ground, drug him handcuffed with his face to the ground and then Audio said, oh, I hope he just n I hope he don't have AIDS. We had his blood everywhere, but they laded to the family.
And for two years, these guys are still on the force, still working. So in two years, what other should have they done? Because they're still on the job. And I'm telling you what I said when they when they gave us guilty, guilty, guilty for Derek Schouden, I said that they give us one, they're gonna want to in day one they saw the fifteen minutes after Derek Chauvin's guilty guilty guilty back killing mccaya Bryant. UM. But I think
that it's also something that we've said though. Now that we have social media and you know, ways to actually get these videos of what's happening in the world out there, it's a great thing. But there's so many, you know, black folks that are being murdered by police that we just don't see. And I think more and more of these stories are coming up and they're going to come out. UM. And luckily, you know, we have we talked about bodycam
footage as well. So I don't have any words for this. UM. I think Unfortunately, and I've said this before, that this is just going to continue. Um, it is still the South. The South is still the South at the end of the day. I don't care how purple you know, a state may turn, but there's a serious systemic racism that is ever evolving in this country that is still very prevalent and that we're going to continue to experience. And it's it's unfortunate that what you say, South Minnesota, New York,
they killed what was the big guy? He was selling cigarettes or something. What was his name, Eric Garner, So that wasn't the South. It's just a fucking ridiculous And then we just had we just had the least incident in Pasadena, and you don't get any wider than Pasadena, California, right, So I think it's a policing overall that needs to be re exampted. I say that the South is still the South though, because there's still am a deep rooted
racism that's there. I mean, police brutality is one thing, yes, and I understand that it's specifically targeted towards US. But when I say the South is still the South, I didn't experience what that fear felt like until I went to Atlanta, specifically Savannah, and I had to do my research of Savannah. George was one of the biggest slave ports you know, in the country. So and one of the largest Jewish communities too, though, so go ahead, go
ahead next. I think two things though. I think that it's easier to paint the South with that brush because covert racism is better played in California and larger cities like Chicago and New York. But I think overt racism is visibly displayed in the South. But to somehow UM not recognize or um not appreciate the stealth manner in which racism is dealt in California, I think could be missing the larger picture because I definitely believe it's there,
or at least northern California. Southern California may be immune, but I know that living in the Bay Area, it was definitely a challenge to um um not recognize the level of systemic racism that was endemic UH and much of northern California. I mean, I'm not about to single out any specific state, and I made it general by saying the South as a whole of this country was colonized and that we have a systemic racism issue across the board, Like that's just fact. I'm just saying the
South specifically, there is more ingrained racism. And this is my opinion. We can, you know, go back and forth about this, but there is a more overt, you know, sense of racism whatever you want to call it, that I experienced, in my opinion. But of course we're dealing with blanket racism across the country. I mean, if we're going to talk about it in the least sense. You know, New York has probably the most brutalized police force in history. There's no other police entity that I know of that
is more rutal than New York. But no New York hands down New York. Nause you wanta come up off California? Well, no, you know, l A. L A is the l A is the reason we had the race riots, you guys, I mean, what we can do. This is what I think, and I just want to be I just want to be clear. I get that living in California affords you a level of um removal. I get that I lived there long enough. I totally get that, But I think that what also happens is that sometimes Uh, California also
blankets people in a false sense of security. I don't want you to think that California doesn't have issues, you guys. And that's just my plea, that's my personal plea. Nobody's saying that. Nobody's saying New York police. But to suggest that New York's police department is worse than l as it is, I mean, we know, we know the l A riots, we know what happened, right, I got that. But we were talking about New York being worse in l A. And that's not true. And that's that's that's
your opinion. I can I think you're the only person that's probably going to say that, being that that's your opinion. I'm just saying, I don't know if anybody else that would say that l A is worse than New York. Just if you look at the blanket history of what's happened in New York in terms of the police, everybody that I know of it would strongly diserup for you. Hi, Bobby, Bobby, why don't you Why don't you have on your afro today? I'm feeling in my afro. I don't know, could I
go I could go crazy? I guess very seventies. Bobby, UM, come on you you listen to me, and what what were doing? What what are we going? We're talking about what you're talking about? What you weighing? And on by the way, Bobby clip, we're talking about Ronald Green. I'm so conflicted about him and why we didn't get more information and um and the body camps. Where are the two body camps from the other two officers. And we do have the one officer who did it was more
heavy handed. The day they told him that he he was fired, he all of a sudden gott in a one car auto vehicle accident and he was killed. UM. So that that's and that's under investigation. We have a guy that had fifty hours of suspension and um was put back on the job, although now he's under investigation and it's looking like he's going to be fired as well. UM. It's it's so troubling, so troubling, you know, right from the beginning, this is I don't know, why are we
just hearing about it? I feel like I don't I really don't remember this case two years ago. Just said, did you see his mom speak? Bobby? Did you see his mom you know me, I'm a big cry baby. I was like a mass like I can't even imagine. But it wasn't he married? Where's his wife? I haven't seen anything but the but the mom speak right, That's the only reason I'm mentioning it. I I feel badly for her. I'd like to see her have some sort
of voice. I think the mom has been I think the mom has been fighting for some type of information from from the beginning, so she's been taking the lead in that. Yeah, and the fourth officer also, Bobby, no way someone would kill my baby, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't be like an absolute lunatick and you know, flying my freak flag and everything else. I'm just he was just writing down. I mean, it's amazing. Um when Flame said this was going to be one of the topics.
The information that just came was unbelievable. The stunt done when the stunned to him three times, whe and he was handcuffed while he was handcuffed, before he was before he was out of the car, beating about the head and they and them for the lot taser taser taser, right, we heard that with the other one. I was talking about and so everybody backs off and they said, what are you what are you stunning for what reason? I
just don't even know where. And I also thought it was very brave and maybe because I'm coming in from airside, that the e ED doc was the first one that got the ball rolling and said, something doesn't add up with this patient. As he went through everything. The story that they're telling us is right in the medical record, which is great for the family, does not it's not what I'm looking at. Um. So I thought that was that was pretty pretty brave, considering you he was probably
surrounded by police, right, Um that that were all there? Um, I thought, Uh, I feel badly for the for the person who to be autopsy with limited information. You know, they didn't go one way or the other, but it was clear they said once they saw that what actually happened and they were presented with that what happened to
the patient. I think this case so also requires that we acknowledge a couple of things that I think we're done right, and that is the AP fighting for the release of this tape because the state Louisiana had been fighting their excuse me, Louisiana troopers had been fighting the release of these videos from day one. Officers at this time were required to activate their body cam and they one officer deactivated, but they were able to piece together.
There were times when uh Mr Green was out of frame, so we couldn't see what was happening. But none of this would have happened if the AP had not just kept pushing and filed what it's called a Freedom of Information Act to have that information released. So now finally Mother Green, because I forget her first name and I want to be respectful, Mother Green is finally getting real information about what happened to her son. But four hundred and seventy four days, Nick, why four hundred and seventy
four day? Well, I don't understand. So I'm happy that that happened, But why didn't we hear this earlier? Yeah? Yeah, a great question. Um, But you know again, everything is lititious, right, so AP can only file and file and push through the courts to get this information. But you have to remember, right, I'm not blaming them, no, you pent right. I just don't know how why we're only seeing the footage after all this time, Why it took so long for anybody
to even start the investigation? And here we go, We're going to get it if they could have got away with it. They were going to they were going to get away with this if they could. Yeah. And I saw reports that the Attorney General wasn't on this and even the governor tried to cover it up. So it was a whole So what happens when what happens when you don't have a mother Green in your corner fighting for that truth who just won't stop? Right? Um? Who's the parent who just won't let it go with police
said he died in the crash. Let it go? Um um, Mrs Smith Nick died in the crash, Let it go? Okay, Well, there there's some parents who are just not gonna oh okay, they're gonna fight, fight, fight, and she's clearly one of them. Yeah,
I just go. I mean, I think this is and this goes to what we've said to is that there's just so many that we probably don't know about because there's so many cases that could have been covered up or just not being covered in the media and people just don't know about because we just don't, you know, have the information. So his name is Ronald Green. His name was Ronald Green he's passed on y'all asking who
it was. Hey, Dawn, it is ridiculous to think that we are living in such a situation that they're still doing ship like this and getting away with it. I'm not gonna blame just the state or because it's happening everywhere. And I'm telling y'all, and I know this is gonna sound very vigilante. We gotta do something. All this talking ship and marching and protests, baby, until somebody take a stand and sacrifice their own self and and fight back
to kick off something. And I'm not saying that, but if that's what how it's gonna have to happen, goddamn it, it might have to happen like that. We we we we were stick and tired of saying we sick and tired, We stick of titus and were waiting on somebody to pass the bill. Baby, shut up, flame, shut up, flamemorrow.
The only thing that I'm hoping is that was was now this case, right, So it's another case two years to older that there are other mother Greens that are now going to start looking at their children's cases and start asking for them to be open and be and be reevaluated. So you know, when we get some complete transparency, maybe we'll get some movement. That's that's my only hope in my prayer, and I personally believe and as disheartening and as frustrating as this is, I believe that this
is another example of progress. Right. I do believe that uh, fift twenty years ago, without the advent of cameras and video to expose the truth, I think the best disinfectant is sunlight. Uh so that when you have this information out there, I feel like this is progress that is being made so that people can see because unfortunately, I do believe that a large part of the civil rights movement and its success was televising people having hoses and
dogs turned on them. When the world is awakened to what is actually happening, people can say, you know what, this is not okay. So as as as discouraging as this is in I have hope and I am inspired things improving from the way that they were and must have been before we had eyes to actually see what was happening. No, I I agree with that a hundred percent.
I have had conversations with my mother when we've watched you know, the history channel and you watched some of the stuff and she said, um, having to be transparent for them and shoved in their face was it was eye opening. Prior to that, they would have said, well, why did they go there? Why did they do that?
You know, like you know, but not that they were troublemakers, but you know, if they just stayed and just stayed on their side and then when they saw it jammed in their face, what was actually happening to these people. But here's the thing, here's the thing. We see a whole lot of ship publicly jammed in our faces. But the people that we have instituted in their laws and the people like they're telling us January six was not an insurrection. We we watched this. We see this White
America see, just like Black America see. But they're telling us that's that's that's not what we saw. Now. It was a trip to the It was a white House visit. Remember, yeah, But my pointing, we're seeing it now on camera, we're seeing it on video. But then we have people in places of of of government to tell us, oh, that's not what you saw. You're not gonna tell me what I didn't see. I got my good glasses. Ze I could see that ship without my glasses. Zone. It was
straight out murder and progress. Gas sliding at its best. Yeah,
it's gas sliding at its best. Totally. They they want those five seats that they potentially could win in the mid terms, and that's what they are trying to play down everything as much as they possibly can so that they can win those five seats if they can get those of people who think that the Republicans, who think that the election was stolen, and they can twist their minds to think that this was not a bad thing when you clearly knew it was because you were looking
at it. Because the day in the park are a regular day for for tourists going in. They're not hanging off the freaking walls and scaffolding. They didn't bring embody paint, you know, and body paint painted like the shaman. You know that happens all the time. Yeah. Yeah, they found they found one guy hit like nan pipe bombs and and that's why you're telling my people. I'm telling my people, y'all heart worried about a P p P loan and all this the legal ship just stop bang Gucci and
labels and that you said, mam munition. Nearly one forty people were injured and at least five people died in connection with the riot. There's also deep concern among Republicans that an independent investigation will focus negative attention on their party as the twenty mid term elections near. I've been talking about the mid terms. It's coming next year, that's
all I keep talking about. Yeah. Absolutely, So when Nancy Pelosi they passed that they wanted the independent investigation, they gotta fight at tooth and nail because they desperately don't want this brought out to the forefront and more information to come forward. And I don't know about Yo and everybody else that's that that's online today. But have you
heard regular day in the pack? Have you heard of a hundred and some odd people being injured every single day since six No, it was a very different day. And and Bobby, I'm I'm, I'm I'm the oldest one here. Please tell me you remember ben Ghazi because it never died. We've still they're still after Hillary didn't shut the hell up? Posted somebody and I'm blanking on his name. His first name was Bob, and he was in the Senate and he was losing his mind. And he actually brought that up.
He was, I'll have to I'll have to send it to all of you. It was a phenomenal clip about how they didn't shut and he literally said, they didn't shut the hell up about Benghazi. It was dragged from one end to the other. And this is trying to be swept under the swept the rod. It's absolutely that was Hillary right, that was Hillary Clinton right. Yes, but remember that that's when Hillary said there, that's when they hit. That's when they hit. That's what It's one of the raisons.
They didn't shut up. I mean, that's that was the only news story that we heard, and it was it was one of the pieces I think that brought her down while she didn't win, because they just wasn't shot up about it. And how many people died and with that being guys, what was it six or eight? How many people that six or eight pandemic that died? Five people that they made it was just five. They held They held Hillary's feet to the fire for that for such a long time. But Hillary was so gangster when
they had her. She sat there like Lawrence and here with one glass. One of her glasses was fixed, and the other one was shattered. That was a black women move right there all day. That's a black woman ship because we're gonna be get ship fixed until we have to. She sat there with an arms folding, and she's and she said, what else do you want me to say? It's done? Five people died on Benghazi, none which were Americans. That on the way Americans. But six hundred how many?
How many hundreds of thousands have died right now from the pandemic. Okay, I'm just gonna let y'all sit on that one. Well, there was also the comparison to of her to remember Brett calv and On when he was crying while he was being investigated before being elected to the Supreme Court. So and Hillary did it, lucky ge. So you know Hillary was gangster with it because he didn't want you'll let her emails everybody times on want she got something to had? You know what? Hillary was
having them emails. She had a boyfriend on the low because Bill was already cheating with Monica Lewinsky, nasty, so Miss Hillary had a dip on the lower. She was sending out some sexting pictures. Miss Hillary didn't want you to see that old cat. No, ma'am, Bobby, thank you. It's always good thing. I do think they were personal. I think there was personal stuff in there and she just didn't want people reading it. And prior to that point they were able to refuse the other server, and
now now we have new rules because of it. So I think that's terrific. But Jesus, that's the other thing. They didn't shut the hell up about those goddamn emails. Um. You know, they probably wanted her coupon to crate and barrow or something. I don't know what the problem want. Bobby. You know, we always love me and I was seeing guys. I would see you tonight for Love Lounge at six thirty right here. If you guys have not joined Love John, they to join me because we talked. We talk. We
don't talk no politics, we talk love, sex and relationships. Okay, uh huh, Hey, guys, sorry I missed the first part of what you said. It's okay, fame which is being flame. You didn't miss nothing. Go ahead. I want to say this because a while back and Made we were having this conversation about police and I said, it's hard for stuff to be swept under the rug. Eventually things will come out because it has to go through so many layers. And I said, so when it comes to policing and everything,
we'll see, you know, the light of day. And I am just completely dumbfounded with this Ronald Green case and how how deep the cover up was, and how many people were a part of that, and how many steps it went through, and just sort of the campaign to cover that up. So now my argument to people, you know, I get blue lives matter, and I'm for all of that. But my argument to the people who are just in denial of the reality of policing, where did you go
now with your defense? Because this this is not fake, this is not a conspiracy, this is facts. So what is your defense? Now? Who knows what's happening in policing in our country? I mean, it's scary to think about it, but I could only imagine knowing that something was something happened, and I wasn't. I didn't fall for the trick that the police were trying to, you know, tell me about my loved one, and just finding out that he was murdered brutally and that there was a cover up campaign
behind it. I couldn't imagine and the distrust that I would have for the rest of my life with policing. Well, welcome to Welcome to our world, that's what I'm telling you, Welcome to black folks world, because we have no trust for the foul ask police that's out here. To say that they all that would be would be hypocrisy. But it's too many bad ones and not enough good ones that want to speak up and stand back. Then because they have their own little clubhouse that if you turn.
If I turned on Lauren, then all my ship go away. I lose my house. My kids are in jeopardy. It is too scary on all ends. And then you got people who we voted and put in positions of power, with Congressman Senterman, since a Congressman, Senators and all that telling me what I did not see. I I don't have the best eyesight, but god damn it, I saw a murder. I've seen a couple of murders in my face. You're not gonna tell me what I didn't see because they ain't shipped wrong with me. And I'm not a
weak person. Neither am I follower. I'm a leader and a lot of y'all need to find your voice, find your heart, y'all, strength, y'all brain, and your courage, and get your assers home because some of y'all lost. Y'all. Let people tell you what they just what they saw, and then you believe what they what they tell you that you saw. When you know what you saw, some of y'all need to get a gay as a kool aid from Ghana. Let me just say that some of
y'all need a glass of kool aid from Ghana. It's called the Jim Jones was a fact of some of y'all. Stupid Mark, do you refted a couple of feathers with that Blue Lives Matter comment? I'm gonna just let you know front. My point was, I know I get people. I mean I think collectively there's most of us have respect. Not obviously there's enforcement officer. I'm not saying that, but I think there are we all know someone who's good. So my point was is I'm not negating the history
and sort of the brutality of policing today. So I don't want any want to take my words the wrong way, But it was more so is now I would your defense can't be oh, well, that doesn't happen. You know this as often as we think it is. It's like we don't really know. This was covered up so well for two years. We could only imagine what is happening on the daily in this time and one story that's one story, one story correct, and so you know this us back to what I said, there needs to be
uh separate entity that it's reviewing uh specific cases. But every department needs to have somebody there, some sort of council, independent council. Someone it's not elected, somebody's not bought out. I mean you are, I'm not. No, no, no, no, listen, because every there are not gonna work like that. Baby. It is, but it's not going to work. The ones that are independent council are not. I know what you're saying. Baby, we've been don't you hear the argument? We've been needed
to work for four hundred years. But hear me when I tell you Mark that there are people been put in those positions to to overlook it. They put people in those positions to overlook what has happened and know that it is wrong. It's not the integrity it is. Do I want to change my lifestyle? Look at you, mar Look how you live, so just I'm taking I'm using you as an example, the way you live your
expensive dollar. You wouldn't want that change is because if they goes against the grain and Bay loses everything, not to say that you don't have your own money, but then y'all laughs. Changed. People don't want to change their their living situation. They don't want to change whether their children go to school, and they don't want to walk
around in fear. So as opposed to them pushing back, they just don't say nothing and it gets the job, don't or they put people in positions that would do everything that they asked them to do and say that is what the reason we lost Liz Cheney because Liz Cheney was not playing the game that they wanted her to play. That's where they put that other week bitch up there. I see it. Yeah, I mean you know, I get I do. It's something that seems impossible. I'm
not saying that that's a lie. My point is is that the only what's the solution if we can't figure out and get to a point where each department there is some sort of third party oversight or something that's reviewing these I mean, think about this the medical examiners report, the physician and the e er said something wasn't right. How did not? I mean, what was the cover up with that? But his mom, yes, she had her doubts of the situation that she was told. But still even
something that's in writing, how's that covered up? There's again it seems unrealistic that there could be a third entity that's going to be overseen. Is but that's really our only solution if not, nothing's gonna change. I mean, nothing's gonna change. I mean, that's my opinion. The only way is that if we truly found a way to get to that point where there was this governing body overseeing this. Uh, because again I don't know what that solution is. What
are you gonna do? So it's not it's I know a lot of comments I see that there's it's not about youthful innocence. It's not about me being naive. It's the reality that we don't have that conversation. If we don't get to the point of having it doesn't bother no, no, no, it doesn't bother me. If my point is is, though, if we don't open up that conversation, then we're not gonna change anything. We're gonna just be stuck with and talk about. That's all we ever do is talk about it.
Maybe somebody gotta do something. I'm gonna tell you what we're about to do. We're about to come about this garage. Thank you, Mikey Mard. I'm burning up and I want to close on one positive note again talking about part quiet diplomacy. Last week we were talking about the conflict in the Middle East. There is right now, at least for a time being, a bit of peace, so to Jericho and his family members, and he was talking about
who are Palestinian who are still there? I'm happy that for now, at least there seems to be a stopping of the destruction and the violence that was happening in the Middle East. So, uh well, can you do me a favorite Nick Smith News? Please? Can you report that we having that same incident here next week? Can we stop? Can we no more violence, no more shooting, no more killing black people. I would love for you to be able to say that next Monday. I would love for
you to be able to say that. I would feel great about having my daughter to get her driver's license and drive in the car, because then I won't be worried about whether she's speeding on the phone. I would be worried about her being pulled over. About goddamn police officer that did not see that my daughter was a beautiful young woman. He just saw a black girl. It's so interesting you say that too. I was just watching a documentary about Sandra Bland and it broke my heart
to see what happened to her. But Nick, on that point though that you just made about the ceasefire that's happening. Um, I will say this opposing. Yeah, exactly, they're talking about a ceasefire, but the violence hasn't ended. I just, uh, first of all, there's so many layers to this. You know, I want to do give a give a shout out to Bernie Sanders and AOC in terms of their objecting to the sale of the seven dred and thirty five million dollars I was given to Israel to have these
bombs in the first place. And um, just on a final note, Joe Biden kind of pissed me off on this front because when he was saying that, you know, there needed to be some type of resolution for both sides, it literally gave me PTSD to when Trump tried to say that there were fine people on both sides and when what happened in Charlotte's Ville didn't, I didn't. Okay, wait a minute, shaking the table, um, Um, that's how that's how I took it. Um. I didn't. I just
I don't like what's happening around this. I think that the US has really honestly assisted Israel and starting a war. And I didn't. I didn't like what Joe Biden had to say. So that's just, oh well, I just gonna close with I. I do think Palestinians deserved to have peace and and and and stay and and have and have access. So I think that the problem is when I grew up, Israel was David. Israel has since become Goliath. So the sympathies have started to shift. There was a
time when Israel was the one being picked on and bullied. Um. But that's not the case anymore. And I think that we need to recognize that Palestinians deserve to live in peace and not be bombed relentlessly. And that's that's that's all I'm saying that. I just think that somewhere in there we need to find a way to make that happen. And I think that's the problem with narratives because Israel
was never bullied. Israel was always the colonizer. And the fact that that was your original sentiment, Nick, I think goes to what the problem is. That's like people trying to say that Christopher Columbus was bullied when he first got here. Seriously it is. I think that's what that's the problem with the narrative. It just it just is because Israel was never bullied. They were the colonizers, they
were the ladies and gentlemen. This is why I laugh and learned, is what it is, because we learned from each other, work and learn from you. Uh yeah, Nicholas and Lauren has had a day today. I love it. I wish you'd have been y'all could have. I would have. I would have been I would have had my sandup with my swimming suit, and I would have been a bitch walking around saying round one. I want to know. I want to make stra' clear though today. I want to make clear Israel was never a victim. And New
York has the worst police force. Honestly, Nick, on the police front, we can agree to disagree because Some people have said that I was right about New yor work. Some people have said, you've been right about New York about Los Angeles. We can agree to disagree on that. But I said what I said on the Israel front, and I'm sorry. It's just that's that's the facts. Google. See everybody's saying Google Nick. Google it and you'll see that was the year I lost my virginity and nine before.
Ye Let me thank you guys so much for joining us here, laugh and learn. We can have this garage because it's hot, and I just want you to know that we will. I will. The Tosha K interview is coming out this week. The the bikes are already up. Uh. Secondly, I want to clean up something because tosh K put out a bit what do you call a clip bait saying that I went after a certain person. I never mentioned the person's name to mention his name, yet that's
exactly what I said. I never acknowledged his name. I never said anything we have a history. But my boss, Tiffany Hattish, who was also the executive producer of the show, asked me very professionally, don't speak on that anymore. I have not, not because I hold on to my job. I do get reckless by the mountain, but when I know that it's with my check and my change. I'm just like those officers in Louisiana when they was covering
some ship up for two years. I'm just like all those black artists that told you all to hold They all vote and what was the black agenda? Just like they are right now. I was dead silent, so I didn't say anything because on this page, we want you to do the same thing that we asked you to constantly do every week, which is what we're asking you to change your mind. We're simply asking you to use your mind, because why if you go p then you ain't got one. That's why you did come on over
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