Am I my Brother’s Keeper? And does my Brother Keep me?

lifted spirit. I think you want to revisit. Tell your friends, take a listen. You'll fo say it's lit. Oh funk that we dig it. Hein't no this, do what you do? Can't do this, do what you do? I can't no this do what I do? Can't do do she can? She grat she she Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to laugh and learn with Flame Monroe, Nick Smith and Lauren Hogan. I am Lauren Hogan. It's going to be that kind of day today, and I am completely free. I haven't

had anything. This is just the real, the real meat. Everything on me is completely real. It's a wonderful Monday. Happy Monday, ladies, and gentlemen, everything looks good, smell good, don't smell good? Loans what I feel like I do? Actually it's not really good. Be good? How Hello everyone, Hello flame Man's welcome to Laughing high Lord. How was your week? My week was good, very busy, but you know, busy is good. How was yours? I'm here interesting, interesting weekend,

the news. We got a lot going on. It's our partner here, Nick Smith. I think so, and I think we also have an announcement for everybody as well. We do. So we had a meeting Friday with My Heart and the Black Effect Network, and so they feel like it would be more conducive for us to drop the video component on Friday night now as opposed to Wednesday night.

So from now on we will be dropping live at Friday at midnight, but the audio will still be on I Heart, Apple, Spotify, Amazon or wherever you listen to your podcast that on Wednesday night midnight. So listen to it and then get the chance to see what I look like on Fred. You got the whole weekend to lust stepped up after Laurence. Remember I told you I was Lauren. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Nick Good afternoon.

I heard the announcement, and that is good news for all of our viewers who have been wanting to see the show. And uh, did you tell them the reason behind that plane? Because you talked about the move, but did you tell them why that's actually we already talking about that. It's a benefit, it's an US We're gonna all make more money. So should I say it like that?

Should I tell them that? I think we We just had some We have some breaking news that happened a few minutes ago over the wire while I was doing my day job, and that is the number of people enrolling in the expansion of Obamacare. It looks like there are several people, particularly from red states, that are just jumping on board. Uh, this was not expected. This was not part of the Biden administration's whole focus as much

as just making it available to everyone. But it looks like, um, what has happened here Within the last two to three weeks, they've seen an explosion in a number of enrollments for Obamacare UM expanding the Affordable Care Act two hundreds of thousands of people, specifically in Wyoming. We find this interesting because Wyoming is a red state, but it looks like so much activity has happened on the Affordable Care Act

in the last few weeks. Uh that those governors, governors of to red states, I'm trying to find that second red state are talking about expanding Medicare and Medicaid as a result, things that they didn't want to do originally under Obama. But it looks like the citizenry are really excited about having access to affordable healthcare. Okay, I would listen. Listen, Republicans, y'all taken a little longer to get on board, but I'll come on and get on board. I bet you

plenty of haven't got them simbulist checks next week. I wondered if they send their stimulus check back. I'm asking for a friend, so I need some clarifications. So, Nick, you're saying that are more people enrolling or just the governor's expanding it? Or is it both? That enrollment is forcing governments to look at other ways to expand, because what happens is when they expand that Affordable Care Act,

they're able to get compensated in other areas. And it looks like people are just really excited about the program and to get on board and this is not something. Uh, you know, they haven't always been on board with the idea of the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, whatever terminology you want to give it. And it looks like the people are excited about what it offers and affords them, particularly those who still have children who maybe within the age group, who still live at home, who still fall

within that age parameter for them to ensure. Well, let me say this, those are the dumb ones. Just you just broke it down and explain the Affordable Care Act from Obamacare, because you know, a lot of them that voted for Trump back in two thousand and sixteen thought that the Affordable Care Act was Donald Trump's Act. They didn't know that that was the Obamacare because you know, some of us don't read, don't write, you know, reading its fundament that they don't do none of that. But

now they see that it was beneficial to them. So good for them for finding their way. Um, they're trying to get those vaccines too, so but I don't want to open that candle words. I'm sorry, I take that back. Can I retract that statement? I take that back. I don't want to. I don't even talk about vaccine at all.

In fact, i'll close on this. I'll just let you know that it looks like, uh, there are two hundred thousand new enrollments, um uh, particularly for this for Obamacare, and that's not something that they were expecting at all. So that's how popular it is. Dumb dumps, dumb dumbs. Yeah, dumb dumps, dumb dumps. Look, look, look, y'all, I'm ready for traveling. Y'all see my shield? Like what you really wear that the entire fight? Why do you do that already?

Of course I did. Yeah, baby, I'm not playing with y'all. I'm doing my part because I don't want y'all part. Because y'all see what's happening in Miami. I know that ain't the next topic, but I'm ready to go to Miami. And I'm not even going to Miami for the super spread event that I think that is happening, because we're truly not out of the woods. I'm one of Miami.

But they talk about the police down there are being very brutal to the black students, to those black people down there, they are being racist and beating them over here with Billy Cliff and being extra aggressive towards the Black Keys that's down their party and for spring break, the Blacks, not nobody else. Well, I did see that report. To um, it's it's I've seen some video and you know,

some of it is conflicting stories. One, I'll just say, this whole curfew that's been put in place in Miami is so unrealistic because I remember they hadn't tried to do the same thing when I was down there. Nobody's gonna follow it. But you know, state of emergency. Okay, it looks good optically, but um, yeah, I did see some reports around. You know, police are being very brutal to you know, students of color down there, which I

think is absolutely unacceptable. Um. But I've heard conflicting stories from kids that are down there, because one young lady came on the news and was just saying, you know, some of these kids are actually inciting some of these attacks, and we have to be accountable in different things. So, UM, I'll just say this, Please be safe. Miami is very wild during this time. We're still in a pandemic and nobody's wearing a mask, So just please be safe if

you are in Miami. More than one thousand arrest as Miami Beach pushes spring Bay break curfew into April. Police condemned for use of pepper balls flame. This may be directly tied to what you were talking about, pepper balls to break up crowds. Uh, break curfew has been ignored. It's at eight p m. So I guess they issue said Ever, nobody's following that, so they it's at a p m. Hey, eight o'clock. Off the streets. People are

moving fast enough. That's when uh, they're making steps to disperse crowds and Mibie Beach officials have extended a curfew and state of emergency into the month of April. Yeah, and I think that's also to giving them away our justification for it, because they know nobody's gonna follow an

APM curfew. So it's also almost giving the police officers, you know, the carte blanche to say, Okay, I can go after you and harass you because you're out here past eight o'clock, because they know nobody's gonna follow that. It's spring break. Who's staying in their room at eight o'clock? That's it's just absolutely ridiculous. I will say, though, did you guys see that video of that one kid that got arrested and sprinted out of the back of the

police car and tried to run down the beach. Hilarious. I didn't see that. But here's my thing. One thousand arrest. If you didn't catch the coronavirus at the party you're on damn show, catch it in jail because they're not gonna let you masch win no mask while you're arrested. People arein't even thinking about that. I'm telling you, it is very scary and ridiculously you keep you keep, you keep talking about that. But I really think most people

are past the coronavirus. I really do, like that's that's not on anyone's mind in Miami. It's not only anybody's man ain't having a good time because people want to be free. We've been trapped up like animals. We want to be out. We want to be loose. But you also have to be responsible and cautious for you, for you. I And this is a great question for our Flame masks that we can address later in the show, because one of the things we want to encourage people to

do is ask Flame. We want to talk about if you've got a question to ask Flame, use those flames and throw it in there, and Flame will address one

of those questions at the end of the show. But one of the things that we saw also Flame this week was how those in New York, and this is where flame masks can definitely sound off, looks like those in New York along the Eastern Seaboard, specifically the upper Northeast, have had a harder time dealing with COVID than those on the West coast and in the Midwest and here in the South. Here in the South, you know, we never really took the mask mandates, seriously, there was never

a complete lockdown. Restaurant stayed open. That's the South. Atlanta, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, California still had weather on its side, so people can still mix and mingle. The article that I had talked specifically about New York and how New Yorkers didn't have the luxury of mixing, maybe going to the beach, walking outside, being in warmer weather, and then they got hit with a brutal storm. So it's just been really hard on

them psychologically. It's been really hard on them psychologically, and it's been really hard on them spiritually because they just haven't had the same amount of contact. Well, he's stuck in the house. Is New York, you know, having to what New York is like in one time and then they had blizzes and brutal beating us. They was up in the damn house. They were just in the house longer than we were on the West Coast because our

weather is better and we do have the beaches. They have beaches in in New York, but you're not gonna go when it's freezing. So that's why they're stuck in the house. They I'm telling you people just tired, but please, let's get off coronavirus. I'm sick of the coronavirus. I'm sick of I'm sick of the coronavirus. I'm sick of everything that's entail with it. I'm tired of talking about it. You know what I want to talk about that hurts me to my soul. But I don't know the answer

to the question. Could you believe that I don't know the answer to something? The children at the borders? Yeah, oh, I thought you said that was too depressing. I didn't say that. I said I didn't want to talk about Cuomo asked no more. In three weeks in a row. Baby gonna do what he's gonna do. I want to talk about the kids at the border, because you know

it is. And somebody said, I was on coffee time this morning, somebody said that they would like to have the Joe Biden stopped pressed from going to to there. Do you really want to see those conditions? Do you know? Something you hear about and you're hearing it is one thing, but physically seeing it with your own as leads such a staying in your DNA and an impression in your mind. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see those deplorable conditions. I hear enough. It's like with

Brianna Taylor. We knew the horrific way she died, but we didn't see it. But when we saw George Floyd's death in our eyes in real time, over and over and over, you relive that. That puts some people into depression. I don't think I want to see that. I think I want them to fix it, but I don't want to see it. Um I'm the opposite. I think that it's good that we're bringing it because I think it's different. When you hear something, you'll say like, oh, that's sad,

blah blah blah blah blah. But when you see something in real time and really understand the depth of what's taking place, I think it adds that extra you know, pull to your heartstrings. It says, this is something that

needs to be addressed. You know. That's why you know, before you know Biden came into this administration, you had people, um like Betsy DeVos that was saying things like, oh, you know, it's like a retreatment center and it's not that bad, and you know there they have blankets, and she kind of made it seem like it was a summer camp that these kids were going to. It wasn't until cameras went in and said no, this is actually what's happening. Then everybody was outraged. That's the same slow

beach that was in charge of education. Yeah yeah, huh huh. I think as uh as having worked as a journalist most of my professional career, I think I agree with you on that, Lauren. I think that sunlight really is the best disinfectant. Right. It is definitely uncomfortable. I think we have a history of showing images that are uncomfortable,

but it also sparks discussion. I can argue that seeing hoses turned on people and dogs let loose, you know, in Selma, leading to the civil rights movement, or really the the action behind it is what really sparked it. It is possible that people seeing these images flame will force Congress to finally act on a comprehensive plan for immigration,

because the problem, I feel like it's multi factoral. Right, So it's not only that we have a border at the US Mexico, a crisis at the US Mexico border, but we also have a situation where now, unlike before, we've got these unaccompanied kids coming. And I don't know what you do with that. If it's somebody as old as me, it's Nick walking across the border, sending Nick back, let them get eaten by coyotes or whatever, because I'm an adult, but I don't think that children should be

subjected to that. And I don't know what you do in that situation. Uh, if you give them harbor, if you let them stay on the Mexico side, Uh, do you still treat people like people? I think that most people want a strong border, but they're not clear on how they want that border enforced. And so I think we just have a situation that really has snow bald over the years. But I think this whole thing is hypocritical though, because I just want to draw a parallel.

I find it interesting that we don't want people from Mexico coming into the United States. Some people feel that way. I don't. I think it's interesting that we don't want them coming here. But at the same time, when coronavirus happened, everybody fled to Mexico that were from the US, so we were gonna have to find some type of middle ground here. Because it's very hypocritical, I understand, like, you know,

people are are coming to have a better life. You know, they're escaping you know, very detrimental and violent and you know sometimes you know, possibly you know, being killed, like these different circumstances. They should have a right to come here.

That's just how I feel, And I just think it's very hypocritical that in one vein we're gonna say, oh no, you can't come here, But in the same second, when something disastrous happens in America, we want to flee to the same country that we're trying to prevent people from coming to. That's just absolutely that's ridiculous, and I think for the point of clarification to most of these um and I want to be careful with our language, with my language, but I think those who are seeking refuge

here are coming from Central America. It's not even Mexico, so they're coming through Mexico. It's both. I had learned the Mexico part, but I've definitely heard I'd heard Central America because they've been devastated over the last year with the storms and the drought. So all I'm saying Mexico, I think. Let's the clarify. I'm saying it's both because I personally know people that have that came from Mexico

to be here. So that's why I'm saying it's both, because I have people that I work with that were actually refuge refugees from Mexico and that came to this country. Well, then we give up a one and don't come here. Y'all don't come here because y'all think y'all get it bad over there. We had it bad for four years, ship you might I'm here. Whoa, we had it bad. We had a bad, real bad this last year. Uh No. Answers to the questions I hear what y'are saying about

people the cameras over there. Maybe it will make people, but do what what are we gonna do our hands time? What can we do? Well? No Biden can do something. And that's the other thing too, is that I feel like with this whole Biden administration, people are forgetting as well that Biden inherited a screwed up situation at the border because of what Trump did, similar to when Obama, you know, came into office, he inherited a screwed up economy.

So I want us to be careful before we automatically go on the let's blame Biden train, because I feel like we do that a lot. I'm not blaming I don't and I'm not blaming him yet. I will say that because I think he needs he needs to he needs to have an opportunity to try and fix this disaster. So that's why I'm saying I'm not blaming him yet. I want to see what he does. And if he doesn't do what I think is necessary to fix the situation,

then you all can go ahead and blame him. But I think that we need to see what he's going to do because he inherited a very screwed up situations to time, and please, Nick, we're gonna bring it on flame. Man, We're gonna come back to you because we want to get some other people's opinions. We read that kid me so blessed. How are you? I'm good. I'm gonna make

it quick. So as far as the borders are concerned, this was happening before Biden, before Trump, before Obama, and I think the media is now bringing attention to it, and so emotionally we get attached to the stories and to the little things that we hear. But it's been a problem at those board. It's been a problem for a long time. Now When is it a problem that we are stopping them or is it a problem that

we are containing them? Because I'm like Lauren, I I know wonderful Mexican people that I and Latino people that I fucking loving the door I used to date the Mexican man and woman. Don't air your business now, don't an your business, now you go. I think it's a problem that I think it's a problem that they're being um, they're being abused, that being mistreated, sex trafficing is happening,

Crimes are happening towards them. There wasn't There was a Border patrol officer who was a serial killer and killing women that came out a couple of years ago. So they're being exploited in a way that it's not right. It's not right, and I think that's why we say, at least in my opinion, I'm glad that media is bringing attention to it because I feel like a lot

of these stories end up getting buried. There was also the story that came up about some of these women that were in detention centers that were getting hysterectomies and didn't even know about it. So it's necessary, I think for the media to cover it. I think it's necessary for the cameras to go down so we can understand and really have almost like a bird side view of what's going on, because sometimes the full story is not

being told accurately. So that's why I say, I think it's important to have the cameras in the media go down there. And like you said, Lauren, we can't put this on Biden. We can't. I mean, the man hasn't even been in office six whole months, and everybody wants to put everything on him. We have to give him a chance to get his administration in order and get things going on on his side of what he can do. But also we don't pay attention enough to our local

government to put everything on one partisan. Absolutely, so there's a lot of people across the board that need to be held accountable for this, not just the president. Absolutely. Girl, I'm telling me so blessed. Thank you for coming in with that information because we appreciate it. We I'm telling the flame man's give it to us. Y'all know, y'all give it to us. Thank you, flame. I love you, guys, Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye bye h. I'm sorry if you can't see me, we can see you.

I was not feeling well. Well you're feeling better now, Miss Jess. Can you sound off for us there? We want to know what you think. You you you hear the topic today, what's going on? What are your thoughts? Give it to us in three minutes. My mom is is from mex Coach. She came here at eighteen UM. I don't appreciate people talking about coming here illegally because we have laws that say we could claim asylum, so

people at the borders can claim asylum. I'm really sick of people saying they're coming here illegally when there are laws that that allow people to claim asylum. So and the border is closed and they're coming through, regardless of who the president is a Bush administration, Obama administration, Orange Crush administration, Bidens and administration. UM. So I really don't don't appreciate and I'm not going to call the person

out UM talking about how we're coming illegally. There are people here that are overstaying their UM visas from the Philippines UM in California right exactly. So I don't like the blanketing of it. I do not like what's going on at the border. They are overwhelmed and under resource for so long, and now with the American Rescue Plan they should be able to address the underfunding. The problem

is getting them moved. So UM. From what I heard and understand, President Biden is supposed to be going UM to the border sometime soon, within the next week, I think, and it is said I and but we do need it reported and you're rightfully, we shouldn't have to um see that if we don't want it, we do need we take it. But we do need eyes on the ground. We do need people to report on the conditions and to let us know. We do need watchers to make sure that they're coming through and doing right by the

people that they have at the border. Yes, and according to what Miss Jesse was just talking about, undercurrent law, migrants can seek asylum even if they cross the border unlawfully. It takes years to a judic aid an asylum case, and many migrants never show up to court. But the law is anyone seeking asylum in the United States is allowed to enter and wait to have their case adjudicated. Yes, exactly, So, I mean people get lost in the cracks. People do

get lost in the cracks. Um, they don't show up for court for one reason or another. They're afraid of getting deported. I understand that. I understand they do have to do their part. I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm not saying that, um, they should be here illegally. I think that once they get here, they need to start getting their stuff in order. And I know it's expensive. I know that, but you still need to try to

make moves to correct it. You know, I'm not saying they should be here and all we let give them a pass. No, you need to do the steps. I know it's hard, and I know, but a lot of the lawyers will help you your info and your feedback from feel Better. Actually didn't they do. But something that I wanted to shift to UM that I saw this weekend was the n c A A. Um, what I saw was very unacceptable and absolutely outrageous. And just to give some context to the story, UM, March Madness is

going on as it normally happens every year. Things kind of shifted last year because of COVID it didn't happen, so March Madness is officially back. So uh this past weekend, UM, both the men and the women went down into this n c a A bubble to have their tournaments, and one of the women players brought huge attention to the fact that there were huge um disparities in terms of

the treatment between the men and the women that were happening. So, UM, I actually want to say thank you to miss Vanessa Bryant because she was the first person I saw had posted about this. Yes it is and um, just little things like the weight room. The n c A provided the women literally a stack of weights and said this is your workout facility. This is what you guys need to do for the weights now, mind you if you

look any and yoga mats, thank you. And then when it came to the men, they had this beautifully laid out jim with everything from tread meals to lifting equipment to dumbbells to just stay to the art facility that was created for them. And the n c a A tried to say, oh, it was an issue of space, and one of the women basketball players, I don't know her name, but she literally panned and said, if space was an issue, I don't understand why. So anyway, the

n c A tried to rectify the situation. They provided the women with some more um, you know, waits to work out and things like that. But it's just it was heartbreaking to see ever and everything from the food the men were being provided stay a can, maconi and cheese and all of these bour main delicious meals and the women were getting like peanut butter crackers and mashed potatoes and like unfrozen vegetables. It was just highly unacceptable,

highly unaccepted. Shame on, you know what, Lauren. And the takeaway from the takeaway from that for that situation to be is how we forget there is still a fight for equality in so many areas. Right, I think you you sit back, and I think more than people were upset. They were like, are you kidding me? Really? Have we not learned anything over the field? You know, these women are athletes, period, their athletes, and why would you not give them? Say so, this is why I cover all

the bases. Do you see that sign in the back? Do you see what that says? He she we You can't discriminate against me because I'm on all sides of the baby. I'm coming at all. So the women ain't getting enough, I'm going to the men's room. I do when I'm at the airport. You're gonna kisch me this Friday if it's too crowded in the means, we will go to the ladies. Ladies you know if I'm in your bar room, because I'm gonna beat to seat up to play and me still don't put to seat down

because I stand up in peak and publicly. Okay, come on, come on, No, I'm just saying in general that is that is horrible and shame on them, absolutely, shame on them. But then if the wins here's the fear. If the women take a stance, what kind of backlash will they get from the n c a A. You know what I mean? Well, they did take a stance, and that's the reason why the situation was record. So I'm saying, I'm saying, but not just this backlash. Will I be

removed from a team? Will I not be able to play? Will I be blacklisted? Or said? You know, we live in a culture of counsel right now that I don't like, I don't like the way you looked at me. I'm offended, So I want to cancel everything, probably get ball. You know, I hear what you're saying, because there was a there was another player, um actually on the men's side, and I know this wasn't technically in our notes, but his

name was a Geo Baker. He basically came out to say that the n c A owns his image, his likeness, They owned him. He basically said that. And it's not fair that there's other individuals. You know, if you want to use, you know, their imagery, likeness, you get paid for that. But when it comes to the n c a A, they're absolutely like they own you. You can't do anything. You can't make money, you don't have opportunities to do anything, you can't help your family because they

own you until you, you know, make it out. In the NBA, I've been owned since in my twenties, So there's a lot of issues going on in the n c A. But it's just the sexism that you know, it's happening right now. I think it's just it's appalling. It really is. Women already aren't getting paid the same amount. Of the problem with sexism really being a prevallem right now is that we focused on so many other uh idiosyncrasies or so many other racisms with the right, not

with just race, but with sexuality. It's so many other stuff that we're focused on, and we still have pushed back the thing of me and women. I was watching Lincoln this weekend. I have what I've seen Lincoln over and over and over again. And when they were in the House of Congress, they were making a decision whether they were going to pass where the Lincoln was gonna pass the free to slaves. He was like, well, if you're gonna have black slaves, what's going you have you

black black people vote? What's next? Women voting? And the men were appalled. This was eighteen sixty five when they thought of the fact of women actually voting. Now we've got so many women in politics, even a vice president. But how much of that has changed? How much of you hearing that a woman is in a position that it bothers you. That's crazy to me. It's it's as bad as I don't like you because your skin and your he is dark, or your skin is black. That's

some dumb ship to me. I see it. That's why I'm adopting some white kids and change their name from Jack and Jill and Bill to j Kwan, Kisha and Lakwan and put them in the hood. Baby, they're gonna be my baby. They're gonna love all the black people. They're gonna be you, my brother. What's her brother. They're gonna be judges and police officers and doctors. They're gonna take good care of us. I just put the paper

and I ain't gonna even have names for him. I got names from They're gonna be eighteen hundred and six hundred all specialties. Of course, you get bigger money when they specially see it. Somebody don't here guessing what Foster Key is right now, and they're getting it for the chick. Ain't. The kid didn't even get a name. The kid name is thirty month. Somebody's gonna be made. You know, I don't care you think you mad na come with the

Delaware baby. I will have your real man. One of the things we're talking about just moving in that area over what is or may or may not be special needs. Earlier this week, we had talked about a story that we had seen that it kind of caught my eye because it's raising new concerns. Spirit Airlines kicked the family of four off of a flight because they're four year old wouldn't put on his mask because he has autism. Uh, this according to the parents, but the airline does not

recognize autism as a disability. Therefore they're like, the whole family has to get off the flight. Uh, if you're not going to wear a mask, you cannot fly on this plane. Only those with a disability are allowed to not wear a mask. And we don't recognize autism as a disability. It's a lot of different variants. It's a lot of different versions of autism though right there, because there's like functioning autism and then there's something like some

autistic kids who just don't say nothing to do. So it's a lot of different levels. So oh, that's that. That was a tough one because if I had an autistic kid, I'm not gonna let you kick me off a plane. I would have worked with my kids before we got on to make it like candy or something. They were the parents. To me, the parents should have had a mask to set their kid up, to say, hey, this is we're going to be on this for however long the slight is going to be. I need you

to work and work and work with this. So they needed to work with that person before then. And I think the airline is wrong for kicking them off. No, I mostly think they're wrong for flyting on Spirit airlines. Did I say that, allowed? Baby, Spirit will break your spirit. They charge you for air. The hell, they charge you for ice. They charged you for the cup, They charged you to raise the window. Baby, I'm not flyting on Spirit. The Spirit will break your spirit. There was there was.

There was supposedly, I don't know if it was supposed to be parody or what, but there was a marketing campaign by Spirit. They were trying to see if they can make it even tighter. Whereas the way you could stand instead of ridiculous like it was a ride at six Flags? What's that right called a riddler's revenge where you can stand up and sit down to stop it? Stop it? Absolutely not? You know that? Is that? Lord?

What would you You don't have a kid, but you thought if it was your nephew, you had an autistic friend, or would you have gotten off the plane or would you have raised tail? I don't. I'm a little torn about this, y'all. I'm not even gonna lie because more spirit they tickets toward all, then they don't get you on the ticket price, they get you on everything else. This this is who got I hope I don't offend anybody. Um My feeling is this. I think it's always important

to understand the climate that we're living in. And I think that's unfortunate to say, but I think that's just the facts of life at this point, because we're in a pandemic and if I had to that was autistic. I would want my kid to wear a mask because I don't want him to be predisposed to coronavirus or any other type of flu that may be circulating, So

I would want my kid to wear a mask. So I don't know was he he was refusing to wear this maskning Just so I'm clear, he was refusing to wear the mask, he would not put on the mask. And that's when you know, flight attendants asked them, Yeah, I'm a little conflicted because I don't want my kid to be predisposed to corona. So, like you said, I think I would have had to have a conversation with him and said, hey, we gotta get on this flight. This is a matter of your safety. I need you

to understand what's going on. I need you to wear this mask and whatever. And like I said, I don't have a child. I don't have a child that's autistic, let alone. So I don't want to offend anyone or say, you know, how dare you say this? This is just my opinion. I will want my kid to be protected.

And I understand at the same time the airline's position in terms of they have to think about everybody, because if somebody does catch COVID and let's say this autistic child was the only person without a mask on, then the airline becomes liable. If somebody wants to Sue, Oh, I don't fun with the airline. I get exactly what you're saying, but as a parent, you couldn't with an autistic kid. You can't say the day of okay, we're going on flight. You would have have had to practice

that with that kid before. If it took a week, if it took two weeks, because you're not gonna get your money back probably, and you need to get to your destination, so you're gonna it's your responsibility as a parent to teach your child, to show your child what they need to do in order to be responsible for you all to travel as a family. I hate that they kicked them off. I don't know where they were going and whatever the case may be, but I kind

of kind of see what the airline was saying. It's on the parents responsibility to say, hey, Mike, we're going on the flight, lawing ling, luring my slow kid, y'all, we practice the lawn my best special baby. We're going on a flight, baby, and I need you to wear this manso and they''re gonna let you. So we're gonna wear this mask and we're gonna go see Mr Happy or whatever you whatever your kid is used to or however you used to talk. You have to teach your kids.

It's out to the airline's responsibility. And I do you understand why they had them removed? I get throw it out there. To throw it out there to the flamets. They seem to be sounding off, loring. They seem to have a lot to say. If somebody wants to sound off, throw those flames in the comments, because this seems to be flame, like you're saying, it seems to be all over the place, different people. Cassie, Can I just say you were always prepared? Cassie was like, bring me in.

I am always ready to come in and have this conversation. Love it as a parent that those parents should have worked with their child, real talk. I have a niece who is autistic and her mom is constantly constantly working with her, and I agree with Flame. I wouldn't have been on spirit anyway sometimes because they do they do. They charge you for bags, they charge you for your seat,

they charge you for everything. But as a parent, it's my it's my responsibility to work with my kids and they know when they were gonna fly because maybe okay, let me not say what they do. But for the most part, you know when you're leaving, and so you should take the time to prepare your child. Even if you have a baby like I, it drives me nuts to fly the airline and the baby's crying. You better get that baby some bended drill so we can get

through this flight. No, you better get you some bows headphones with the noise control so you don't hear ship going on. I don't even want to hear the conduct. That doesn't work. That doesn't work. Sometime the last flight I was on, there was a kid in the backroom me and I had to keep looking back because they was kicking my chair. It took all of Jesus for me not to, yeah, lose it. But it's up to the parents. It really is up to the parents. Cassie,

let me ask you a question about this situation. So, now, when you just said about the parents should work with the kid, you know what that goes back to when Titia Campbell was our special guests on the show and she talked about how much she worked and took time with her kids. That's all I'm saying. If you know you're gonna fly, you know your kid can be a little challenging, not only for you, but especially out in the public. You're right, you work with the however long

it takes. Now, they might, like you said, they might have bought those tickets that day because you know you're about a ticket for Spirit Airlines. I can go all the way to you were right now for three dollars, you could you just gonna pay you Well, you are, but you can. You will pay on the back end with the air and everything else. So they'll come out to a thousand dollars because they charge you for They charged you to carry your own purse on the plane.

They really do. They changed you to carry you a purse. It's for everything. But I understand the airlines because just like Lawrence said, if someone has been exposed to COVID, and maybe the kid might have carried it on. Because I just had a friend text me that their kids tests are positive for COVID. They went back to school and now COVID. So we gotta take um, we gotta take precautions because we're still not out of the wood yet. So and that's why I say, you have to understand

the climates that we're living in. You know, things, circumstances change, all the time. But I just I can't say that they were necessarily wrong. And like I said, I don't have a kid who's autistic. I'm just saying, I'm sorry, kid, I don't hear it. They have difficult children that are not autistics. I'm not wearing the man I've seen it. I don't want to put the mask on mine. So it's not even necessarily autistic. But who's in control with autism?

I understand that because the kid could be a little but with a regular badass kid, I would snatch him up on that plane, Like if you don't sit your littles down, I'm a I'm an open this window. When we get up in the and push you out, I think we would have had a conversation. We want you right right right, we get on the point. Yeah, so thank you, thank you. That's no West connection. Yes, push your We don't know how. I do want to bring one more person in here because I see her sounding

off in the comments. Ms. Bobby Clifford, Hi, Bobby, we are coming towards you. I just gotta fine. I'm Bobby's ten dollar hole. Stop it. Bobby sent me ten dollars every day. I'm Bobby's ten dollar ho. Where's miss Bobby Clifford. I'm coming for you, Miss Bobby. Can you put some flames in the comments? I can find you faster? Where's miss Bobby Clifford? Nicholas, Have you ever flown Spirit? I have, but it was Yeah, it was one of those short like Boston Philly type dealer or you're in the air

for spit. I lose Spirit first class, mind you. Spirits first class is like Americans third class. Oh, it's just a regular sad seat because the regular seats on Spirit t ninch. I got way too much ask for that, and I think that that was my biggest hsue. It's honestly flame. For those who have not flown, it's almost like sitting on the folding chair. It's like, yeah, those card table chairs and all that. And sometimes they don't that back. Sometimes they don't even lean back like fat

jail say, lame lean back. They don't lean back. They don't do the fat Joe. Mm hm. Well, since we're talking about airlines, not Clifford. Want to go ahead, Lauren and move on to our next one. Because some places like Israel and others are starting to require that people

have uh proof before they can fly and do things. Uh. So with the mandatory vaccination, uh, they're requiring that people to move around and attend certain events, be able to flash said, Hey, I've been vaccinated and standing all that. Hi everyone, so how are you? How are you? So? I see I see you sounding off in the comments and you have a different perspective, So please tell us what your thoughts are around this. I want to hear you. I do. This is a tough one. I have a

special needs sister. Um, oh thank god, she has autistic tendencies, but not not full autism. Some of these kids, I don't want to say controllable. They they're not controllable. You know. You you can have practiced forever you get on that plane and they could be stuck somewhere trying to go home, and now all of a sudden, they have a touch problem. So they don't like things touching them. They don't like the parents touching them, skin touching them, they don't want

their clothes touching them, and anything could have happened. He could have gone to put it on, and you know it's not gonna happen. I realized we have to be safe. But then I also put back onto the airlines. We're supposed to be socially distancing on the airlines, right every

other seat or whatever it is. Why couldn't if the child was put in an area, maybe switched the child's seat where he's not near anybody else, you know, that stort of area with his a little bit more room, stick him in the corner with the mom or dad. Why couldn't they have done something like that because he was still on the plane that is closed in, and he could still expose other people to a coronavirus. It

is an enclosed capacity. So if the parents knew that, maybe they'd, like you said, maybe that he had an episode. You don't always know when the episodes. They might have had to make some other precautions for travel, because you have to be responsible for other people. And I know what you're said about the planes being sociated distance. They haven't done that since in about a month. Delta still does that. They're the only airline because everybody else is

crammed in there like in a canyon. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I feel like it should have been some other um, I don't know, something else offered to the family. I haven't heard of the case, and now I'm gonna have to go and do my home. But you don't think that they should have removed from the flight. I don't know. I see I'm coming from the other end. It would tear my heart out if you put me on the flight with my sister. I mean, my fadass would have taken you down. I probably would have sat

on you the way. I was not happening. Not happening, you know, because they're so discriminated, this this population and is treated so poorly to begin It's like the kick the dog, even with something like um funds that come through the government right where my sister's moneys are always the first ones cut cut. The programs are always cut. Now I'm going to see Mickey House or something with my child. It probably took me forever to try to get this this together, and now I get on the

plane and you're gonna take me off. Yeah, you would have taken me off in a straight jacket. Clever. I want to, I want to, just want to. I want to throw something else out there at you, because we talked about earlier, and I know that you are a medical professional, So if you can speak in general terms for me, there around the Affordable Care Act expansion and how this has become popular. Can you give us some insight into why you think that maybe why are more

people signing up? What's the deal? Well, there's more money, So I'm not I'm not a health care professional. I'm an administrator. So I am our project manager for Mass germeral Brigham Hospital. I work on the revenue side of the money. So we're the people that try to keep the doors open. Um. I mean, I love the Affordable

Care Act, right. You know, We've got twenty three million people that have insurance now under Joe Biden, he's he's trying to expand on it so we get more people, um, some of these people that have lost their jobs, you know, instead of putting them on a straight medicaid, he's trying to offer plans that we can now come in through the Connectic Care right, and we get more people hooked

up that way, which is great. It's great financially. People think we're spending more money, but in the end, when these people don't come through our emergency room doors, we're saving a fortune. Um, you know, by providing them with preventative and proactive care instead of reactive care. I don't know that. No, no, that totally that totally works. It totally makes sense to me. And it wasn't meant to

like throw you and put you on the spot. But I just believe maybe working in that arena you had more insight as to why all you know, now people are finding it an attractive option, you know, as opposed to being Can I be Frank Bobby Canna ask you this and think because this is what I think. I think that some people that were may have been under the influence of Trump. And I'm saying this because I've seen a lot of interviews of previous Q and on UM members that are kind of seeing the light and

have this epiphany all of a sudden. I think that some of these people that were under the offices of Trump and thinking whatever he said was the gospel and everything, they might have done some research and they might be some of those non you know, college educated folks that

were his supporters. They realized that Obamacare is something that they actually need and that they would have lost once upon a time, and that's why they're now starting to re enroll, because they've had an epiphany and would have done some thinking for themselves. Instead of believing what we all say orange crush was providing to them. Yeah, no, and that and that very well could be the case.

Or it could be the people that had it through their employer no longer employed, you know, aren't getting their insurance through their employer, you know, when they've come the other way. I mean, the Affordable Care Act is great. Do you ever see they did Jimmy Kimmel um that that he did when he went out on the street and he asked people if they would have signed up for what if they thought about the form here Act and what they Wasn't that terrific? And what they know

about obamaca? Hay did Obamacare Obama think were talking about? He was talking about West Virginia and Techie uh, because that's when he came out works in two thousand and sixteen to vote for Downald Trump. All those people who had oxygen tanks and we're we're diabmantic and all that. They didn't know that they Obamacare. They didn't realize that they were getting all their medical procedures every month from

the Affordable Care Act, which was actually Obamacare. Reading Like I said in the beginning, it's fundamental if you read you a Loanesom ship. Knowledge is power. Y'all dumb asses, didn't know what y'all was doing. He cut up y'all oxygen tank. Oh, y'all walking around here. That's why Koby here because y'all jumped, dropped to their Minster tank, ran

up all the oxygen and ship. But I'm laughing. Well, I mean you look, you look at it like, um, we could have got it, could have had it stripped out right, That's what Trump wanted even there the Republicans in the end, you know, John McCain, you know you didn't get rid of them. That helped a lot of people. And what were you gonna do with those people? You know? Healthcare Supportune, it's really it's it's the highest GDP you know,

single item that we have. It's crazy since you on that, you on the financial end, do you think that the United States should do like Canada and like the u k. And we pay all the taxes and we get free healthcare for everybody. No, it's horrible. It's horrible health care even those places, because you know, we'd all be we'd all sign up for an appointment and the five of us would all go at the same time. Sit there wait forever. You don't necessarily get the best docs. It

costs a fortune to be a physician. I have a friend that's a psychiatrist, and she got married at the age of forty eight, and her husband's gift to her at forty eight, to keep that in mind, forty eight was to pay off the rest of her student loans. It's a fortune to become a clinician. And so under these under one their their payments, say there'll be no

incentive for us to have docs. What what would you go into it for when you come out with three and worth at student loans and you're gonna make a hundred and fifty thousand mobby, I'm so glad you said that. There are so many people. There are so many people who think that doctors are all wealthy, and I'm like, you have no idea. I have so many friends who are doctors who are struggling because they student loan debt is ridiculous. Absolutely, you're absolutely right, absolutely right. I'm glad

you brought that up. Thank you. Now, people who make and they should make a lot of money at the surgeons, right, so people orthopedic surgeons, cardiac surgeon, you know, thrustic surgeon because there you know, it's the stress level. I mean, I can't even imagine what the burnout if anybody actually ever looked at the burnout. But overall, you know, no, it's for for what they have to put in their on call all the time. I wouldn't want to be

a clinician, no way. Well this is maybe tuition should be free and people can get a go ahead pay for it if we did some sort of different package. Right, So for these kids that are really super like science, are mathematically inclined sounds like your son, um flame, you know, maybe we we give them a full boat if if helping people like that's their interest, and um, we still would have to figure it out of the way. That's just one People also like choice. You know, I don't

want to go to this. I wanna so you Boston around. My family's from Ireland, right, so they have they have universal health care there. But you're gonna see Dr O'Brien. Well I want to see Dr Smith. No, you're gonna see Dr O'Brien. You know he does all of them. I want to choose where I'm gonna go. I wanna you know, if I if even if it's a tiered plan, I want to choose the best and if I'm willing

to pay for it, that's what i wanna do. And even those in the UK, Bobby Clifford, who were required to take Astra Zeneca, they they're like, wait a minute, I'd like to do Johnson and Johnson, Oh Maderna, Nope, you will do Astra Zeneca because this is nationalized health Thank you very much, get in line. That's why, thank you for educate me on there. But because we always here that Canada and the UK have the best health care because they have free healthcare. I've never even thought

about it coming in from that aspect. Yeah. See we're laughing and literally exactly. We're not the most efficient. I mean, I will say we don't do a great job with it. We spend a lot of money in the United States. Other countries do it better than us. We need to learn from them, you know how we can do it a little bit um less expensive. You know, people don't need to go into the hospital and have forty five am our eyes. You know, one might be okay. Um, So we have to we have to get it, we

have to have to get the cost down. But that said, I like, um, you know, I like choice. I want to I want to choose what I want. I want to choose the plan that I want. Um, I agree with me that this is all my opinion. Some people might think it's great when I hear the universal the Medicare plan for all, like I break out in a cold sweat. I don't know how we'd afford it. I don't know how we'd pay for it, you know. Um, yeah, I don't saying I don't think that's the best way

to go. That said, I think something Obama Obamacare UM expanded and perfected would be. Well, thank you so much video, you know, thanks for bringing me loves you over here. Thank you, but Lord Jesus, oh honey, and I hit that X for us. Please, thank you and thank I'm going thank you, thank you, and thank you for mentioning my son. Yes, yeah, I'm very probable I have too. I got I got three grade, even two. I don't

even know if I saw the pictures. I got three graduations in next in June, eight grade and even ceremony, and it's it's just like everything you ain't no ceremony, and then we we might run a home figure it out. They'll flame, they'll figure it out. Like here, and I'm just north of Boston. I'm like five miles from Boston. They put all sorts of like banners up in the center. They had them come in almost like to get the pictures to walk. Nobody was there. Everybody had an assigned

time to do it. So you know, they might tell you you've got to come in at ten o two and you show up and he gets to walk and get you know, there's all sorts of different things that they're doing to try to make it special for him. It won't be the same, yes, but um, he's in the same boat with all his all his peers, right, it'll be something to talk about. Well, I'm going to I'm going to my son's graduation as a guy. I'm going to my daughter's graduation and slam. I always going

to be excited. I made a man about Thank you Bobby so much. So. I know that we're running a little short on time, but I feel like we can't complete this episode without addressing all of the hate that's happening within the Asian community. So nicky and to all my Asian people, I love I love you guys. I do know some very nice Asian people, starting with Joe Koy, who was one of my guests on the show before,

who was a comedian. I don't, I don't. I've seen so many horrible stories, but can I just say, heats off to the little old Asian lady that was like nine years old and mcgat tried to fight her and she whooped his ass. Let me tell you something, stopping eating sure rice and eat more white rice because that old lady was not having it. Baby, that old lady fall back. Sometimes you have to fight back. It don't matter what color you are. But that's terrible. Are they're

doing this to the Asian community? Um? Yeah, Nick, And we specifically just give some insight to what happened in um Atlanta please this last week. Absolutely. Uh we're specifically talking about the Atlanta SPA attacks free where the question is whether or not uh this was um I hate crime because victims were definitely go ahead, Sorry, okay, I'm just I'm just saying for for the point of clarification,

has not been has not been termed as such. They're just so that we, uh let our viewers know exactly what's going on. Um. But the problem is Uh. People are bothered. People are bothered by the events of the attack where it looks like within twenty four hours, UH, the suspect was able to purchase a handgun legally, go to one spa UH that he had frequented often for uh we believe now his own sex addiction, um, and within less than twenty seven miles away, drive to yet

another one. The argument is the reason why so many believe it is indeed a hate crime is that those whom he targeted were Asian women. UM. And in that twenty seven mile stretch, you could have stopped anywhere else you wanted to, but you went to yet another Asian themed spot that he had frequented regularly to uh to attack those I just want to clarify these were you're saying, these are locations that he frequented, because I didn't hear that. Well,

the way we exactly now learn more. What we now know is that he had been in treatment through his spiritual um through his church, talking about his sexual But I didn't hear that these were places that he frequented

for with to fulfill he had been customers. He had been a customer to both places and UM he UH he said he had a sex addiction, and he's and they determined that he had been to these places before regularly, that he was Let me say this that nigga, and I said, what I'm talking about the white man that killed those innocent people. Fun that nigga. First of all, he purchased the gun on the same day that he

did it. That is completely premeditated murder. His man. He purchased the gun for purpose of killing people, which is what he did. Niggas, you tried to purchase the gun down there in Arkansas how long ago, and they put them through every roadblock they could it, but you but he wouldn't got a gun the same exact day. Before we even get that, let's just address the fact that you can't register to vote and then vote the same day in Georgia, but you can get a handgun the

same day. If you look like him, If you're Hugh is this coach, If you're he was this color, Georgia, I'm saying, Georgia, that's why I moved. If you're he is this color, you got a little more right. And I hate the fact that they tried to say, oh, it's not a hate crime. What else was it, but I hate crime. What else was it? But I hate crime? This man was so I love to play the lot of you. I let me just publicly admit I probably

have a lot of readdiction. So I'm supposed to go blow up all the seventy eleven so that I can't play the lottery no more because I'm finding fault with you because I don't have any self control. He should be put in prison, or they should give him the death penalty. He killed electrocuted, that's the easy. Oh the gas and then your ass jump out, you spit up the yellow ship. Oh you poop on you. Oh you look like Linda Blair and the exes. You just he

has been around and sheet given the gas. Give the gas. I just I think in general what's happening in the Asian community is absolutely terrible. However, I do have a huge issue with the media. I'm just going to bring that up. I do with how they're trying to cover some of these stories. And one I think, yes, what we say stop you know a a p I Asian and Pacific islander hete, we also need to be saying stop white terrorism. That's what needs to be in these headlines.

And I feel like everybody wants to, you know, walk this fine line of oh, we don't want to say that that's the crux of a lot of the domestic terrorists that we're domestic terrorism issue that we're facing in our country right now, it is it's white terrorism. And we've had you know, the FBI has come on and said that there's they've seen huge spikes because of Trump. Trump is also part of the reason why all of this hate is happening towards the community. Flew virus from

all of these different things. And I think that the media needs to do a better job of calling a spade a spade and stop trying to walk this type rope and not offend anybody. Say what it is at the end of the day, and NBC specifically stop trying to charge the black community to try and fix everything when it comes to white supremacy. If that would have been a black man that killed all those Asian women,

this story would be very different. Nickels, If that had been a person of color, even a brown person, this story would be very different. In the media the way it was portrayed because they said the young boy, they actually called this twenty one year old man, a young boy I've seen, I'm seeing anything. When it first happened, and no one wanted to say that it was a hate crame when it was clearly a hate crime from day one. You knew what it was. It's ridiculous, niggas.

And I'm telling you the less the less aggressive that we are as black people and as people that see what it is. And I've seen a lot of podcasts and I've seen a lot of people say I'm not going to stand with the Asian community because they didn't march with us with Black Lives Matter. Can I be honest about the whole Black Lives Matter movement march when after George Floyd, I saw more people that look like this, that look like us out there marching for us and

with us. But I'll just bring this up to the because gonna be mad, you know, I don't care. But no, but that also is a part of the conversation. And I'm gonna say this. I'm not leaning one way or

the other. I'm just putting out there what I've seen on social media and some of the temperament is that some people on our side, the black folks, have a bit of an issue with this because they feel like, to what you said, Flame, the Asian community didn't necessarily stand with us when it came to black black lives matters, and as in, you know, just to bring up a tragic example specifically in l A, you know, that Korean store owner years ago around the Riding King Rights shot

that fifteen year old girl in the head because he tried to he racially profiled her. So there's a lot of underlying subliminal issues going along with this too as well in terms of why we can't come together. Um, I sent you guys a video that one of my friend does every Friday. But I think in this space a rainbow coalition definitely needs to happen. That's the whole group.

So it's always one bad apple in a bunch, that's what that's the old add So we can't charge a whole group because of one or two, or three or ten. But that's what I'm saying. It's it's it's a it's a accumulation of things. It was. I'm just giving that one example. But like you talked about, people didn't feel like the Asian community necessarily supported the Black Lives Matter.

It's a lot of underlying things, and I think it's just kind of reaching a boiling point to why people are kind of, especially us, we're kind of having the struggle in terms of how we should support and you know, like I said, Lata, thank you, thank you mom. Latasha Harlan's um. Like I said, so Latasha Harland. She was fifteen years old. She was shot in the head by a Korean store owner on the time of the Rodney King ryance because he facially profiled her and said she

was trying to steal orange juice from the store. So like, that's just one example, but there's been a series of things that I feel like you've kind of put us in this space of opposition where we should really be coming together at this point in time. But I feel like if we don't address those underlying, you know, issues that we may be feeling, we're not going to be able to take any steps forward. Oh yeah, Prolific Queenie said, flame, didn't you stop going to Asian nail shops? I really did.

I did. But that wasn't because of any kind of hate. That was because of the coronavirus and the bottles were unlisted. Let me tell you you see what this one. This bottle says narrow here. I need to see a label, you know. And when you go to the nail salon, they just have a bottle that's clear. They're right on their ocean p u vomit, you know, alcohol. I need to see where it came from from the source. I'm reading with the comment because I did stop going to

the Asian nail salons. But when you go get your nails done at the Asian nail salon, when they put out the lotion and when they put out the alcohol, they don't pull out the alcohol bottle. They don't pull out a lotion, but they put out a clear bottle that they have notional or they've written alcohol on. This is at every agent salon. This ain't just here in California's everywhere, and I didn't trust it. I don't know what the hell is there. You might have COVID in there.

And that's not saying that I'm against going to the Asian salon because nobody does my brows like look Kim in l A. But that colos down because of COVID, So no, I wasn't. I'm not against the Asians. I love the agents, but my money spends everywhere, and if you make me feel uncomfortable or if I feel uncomfortable coming to your place of business, I'm gonna take my money to the other place because my money, my money spends everywhere. So what should we do flame, Lauren, that's

the that's the question right now. What what is our charge? And what can we do to be better? Are we're doing it now, we're talking about it. We're having a conversation and let's bring other people into heaving that. That's all we can do is conversation about That's nothing I can do about it. Yeah, I agree. I just think that one we need to address or whatever underlying issues we may have, because that's the only way we're going

to move forward. I said, I think that the Rainbow Coalition is needed in this space, um, to provide from perspectives. Don't if you if you go with that, whatever you do, don't tag a man the Seals because no, no, and that that's not even a fair comparison, because Kevin Frasier was absolutely wrong. He was absolute he was he was wrong, he was so wrong. But um, I think a rainbow coalition is definitely needed. That's the only way we're going

to move forward. And I also think that every time that there's something racially wrong with the world, we need to stop saying, Hey, black community, what are y'all gonna do? That's what I also think has to be addressed as well. We are not the savior for y'all, because honestly, y'all persecute us the most. If we're just gonna talk about it, we're not y'all savior. Figure it out yourselves and then

maybe we can see how we can help you. But I also don't like the fact that it's like, oh, you know, something around racism happens not specifically to us, we black community. What should we do? S is a cold piece? Ain't she? Y'all? A cold piece? Maybe I like it? Sorry, just just my thoughts. Vesper, come on in the room, come out and how to speak? Come on? Or we should have brought and brought him see into Okay, we can do that. Next, we can get two flame

mets for this. Come on Invesper, come out, and the rest of you better be looking like the killer in two in what's the movie I Love? Where he staied he stabbed the mom in the shower. Oh you're talking about don't best. We look just like, look he looks just like get get your life in a shower, Kurt. Let's do it right now. I'll be the mom and stab me up. Hey, best, how are you okay? Best? For how are you? I'm alright? Y all are beautiful. I love how your your mind works. For Yeah, I

mean this whole thing about this shooting here. My biggest thing is I'm glad that a lot of the mainstream news networks are starting to catch on and not show the shoot That's the thing that we need to stop doing because a lot of these shootings are coming. So we need to storifying the shooter, and we need to start painting a picture of who the victims were. That's that's my only take on this as long as we can. And I love the fact that y'all did not mention

his name once without cutting ball covering. What is the shrift? What did they do with that sheriff that said the guy was having a bad day, the murder was having a bad day. Is he on leave? Vesper, I have no idea that he was taking off of the Yeah, he won't be speaking on the case anymore. He's no longer so besper I had asked a question, Besper, I would like you to address the question, what can we

do to be better allies? If we understand that there's a problem, do we have a responsibility to be better allies? What can we do? What should we do? What y'all are doing? Like Flame said, you know, having the conversation because nobody is going to have the same opinion on anything, but if we have a conversation, we might be able to find some middle ground. And what y'all do? What

is the saying of this show. I'm not trying to get you a change in my Yeah, we just want to use it, and everybody ain't got I think everybody has one, just most people choose not to use them, or they're so stuck in that way of thinking that they don't even realize that they're never using it. Yeah, I agree with that one, you know for sure, because you talk about people that are educated, you know what I'm saying, like having degrees, You don't have to have

a degree to be educated. Everybody has access to Google. If you do your research and you do your due diligence and you don't read just one source, you look at all of the context and everything that's using your mind and that's educating the best. For let me ask you a question, because you're there in Georgia, what is your what is your local news saying about this, the whole situation with the murder, because it was it's clear murder.

I mainly watched Democracy Now. They did great coverage, They showed the victims, they didn't show his face, they didn't mention his name. I watched last week Night and then I just read articles that, um that are trending, and that's how I get I mean, and I stay up to date. Just with that, you know, I don't have to pay attention to stand and I don't have to pay attention to any of those mainstream news networks. Democracy Now is it's probably the best that I've ever seen.

At least. Let me ask you, Nick, because you're in the media. Is the media in the South now referring to him or referring to this as a hate crime. Well, just so we're clear, they cannot call it a hate crime flame because that's not the charge. Like the media does not have the authority to make up a charge the hate crime, right, But he has not been charged. He has not been charged with hate crime. The media

is not supposed to the ideas. You're supposed to just report the facts, so that that's that's the idea, that's the idea spirit, and that's where people that have a comfortable sea ship. No, you you're supposed to just have space. They didn't say it would be comfortable. I don't like that they didn't address that as a hate crime, because I'm telling you, have that been one of us, it would have been. But flame, I think the bar is too high for that. I think that's I think the

bar is too high. It's even tougher than that premeditation. I think that's why they're avoiding, uh, labeling it a hate crime. I think I think if they get the evidence that it was indeed a hate crime. Um, I think this is more Summer's painting this more as an attack on sex workers and sex work. That's something to the hate crime. But Besper, thank you so much. We

appreciate you as always. You know what's messed up about the whole situation in Georgia because if he had a finish for Asian women, Asian women generally like white men that are attractive and rich. But I think that's also too a part of the persecution that they're talking about, because like if you think of a movie like a full Metal Jack it right, and so that's that's part of the narrative that they're saying in terms of you know,

people women of Asian race. It's women, it's Asian women specifically, and how they're hyper sexualized and there's these expectations that are put on them that are putting them in this space of persecution. They rejected his ass and so he went crazy. That's the case. Ship. That's the same thing Pierce Morgan did with Megan Marco. She rejected him. He didn't put on never damn gun Ja and bring it on home. You are the last one to bring it home because I try so hard, um to to not

go into any relationship um with pre judgments. But it's hard for me to be a voice of reason on this because I want somebody to extend themselves to us without a crisis. I'm tired of being in the being the responsible party when society has turned on another group. You know, there was a lot of rooms, uh for us to bridge our relationship without a crisis, and in

Asians and I'm not better. We all have you know, multi culture friends had a chance to extend themselves to us, but they thought they could get a pass in the white community because they supplied services that were not directly in competition with White America male salons. Uh half half orders sure for our rice places. So they didn't even do any better. You can go and look at these establishments, and I've worked with come, um the commercial districts in

my city. They don't even want to participate in the Awnings program because they can keep maximizing off that target market out doing anything. And so I'm not saying this is what we have to end up, but I like for them for someone to extend themselves to us. I am tired of black women being the most disrespected being on this article. I'm tired of get I'm tired of being tired. What he needed was nothing less than I

hate crime. But we've powder puffed it up because we are still protecting the group who's attacking all of us. Whoa saying for the people in the back? Yeah, now we're can gnaw on that, But those are my thoughts. And it's just it's hard, you know what I mean, Um to live this long and keep turning the other chin I am not my ancestor, h so you know, so now we can bounce that around. I don't mean to be bitter. No, that's not better, that's honest. Let's

let's not even go there either, TJ. Because that's not bitterness, that's just honesty. Absolutely, you have a right to feel the way that you feel you do, and everybody in the comments agree with you too, So go ahead, okay, tell me how to get out so we can continue. I had a question to so, do this mean that I gotta take down my seventies Bruce Lee posters because I was in love with Bruce Lee in the seven No, No,

I don't think so. But I think there has always been a smug coat existence with the black community and the Asian community. But you know where they come where that stems from so many of our Caucasian brothers and sisters that were in power that were prejudiced. They were not brothers to let me take that. So many racist white folks that was in power have made everyone think that they were better than black and brown. Everyone thinks that they were I can't even say brown because Asians

are considered brown and yellow. But they all think that they have been there you are. Let's take that best part of that construct too. And that's why I said, that's why I sent you in that video that my friend did, because that was part of the racist construct of why black people. Why can't you guys prosper as a minority, Because there's these Asians over here. They're smart, they get good high grades in but they work their way to the top and they don't create violence. They're

the model citizen. Why can't you guys do what the Asian community does? So they are these racist white folks America. They're part of this construct of some of the tension that we have between the two of us as communities. However, T t J And said it right on the money,

that's also part of it too. That's why I said, That's why I said, there's levels to this, Like if we're gonna really do something, we're gonna have to address a lot of the subliminal issues and tensions that we have as two different communities in order for us to move forward. But at the end of the day, I agree with T. T JAN stop looking to us to everything when it comes to white supremacy, because honestly, y'all created white supremacy. Why do we have to fix it

right and we're all still fighting white supremacy. You didn't get a pass, you know what I mean in spite of what you you were directly, you know, be in competition with any of the other you know, cash loan places or whatever is trying to say they're serving our community. And because just since the pandemic, I mean, we've seen so many Asian people. You don't throw out the N word. What are you doing here? Get away? I mean, young folks catching this on camera, but I bet they ain't

saying that now, you know. Um, And again I'm not I'm not saying that. You know, this is what they get. It has to stop, you know, but quit trying to get in bed with these white supremacis there there's no room for you that it's not gonna happen. You can ask Tiger. They slipped on him. Well, remember he didn't identify as black, so he flipped on. And now you trying to come back kind of like Stacy, what I'm

saying exactly what I'm saying. He made up this long word to get around what didn't what didn't want him in the first place, be be part of who you are. Make people demand you, demand that people respect whether you're born into these establishments or not. Make sure that they're speaking to you, look at them in their eyes, make them look at you in your eyes. You know it. It beat fill yourself up with self confidence. You know that's what anybody You don't go in with your head

hangs down. And I don't care if you're baying, ring me hair or not. You go into their establishments and you make them earn your money. So you always thank you, Thank you a great day. Make sure you'll follow t J at Waits Williams always get the info. Yank you. Nick. I will go ahead and close this out here. I'll just say this guy's I. You've been kind of quiet,

and that's that's I'm I'm talking about this. Well, it's just I think that there's been a lot of conversations around and I think it's a it's a tough situation. You know, I live in California for too many years. I I you know, you can't live in California, specifically Northern California and not be immersed in a heavily Asian community and not recognize how much I found my Asian

neighbors and friends who also contributed. I'm bothered by anyone who feels attacked, and I just feel like, um, I do wish, I do, wish we could there was some way to do more to recognize at I think the real problem is, like Lauren touched on earlier, I believe it to be systemic racism. And I think that the the skill in which those groups move is they seek

to divide and pit us against each other. I don't believe my Asian brother sister is my enemy, and I hate that even trying to have the conversation of ally or stewardship causes division within my own community. That my my community makes it uncomfortable to have that, and I don't know what to say or do, and that that's where it becomes a challenge for me, because um, I'm

not ready to I'm not ready. I'm not comfortable hating or disliking someone or or not wanting to stand with them because they aren't black and bald, and that and that that's just me. And so I do believe my Asian brothers and sisters deserve my support more than peripheral me just having a conversation. I want to know how I can do more to to to let people know that I do see them having value and that yeah, there's some bad apples in every group, but I'm not

going it's surely some bad apples in everywhere. But let me tell you something, y'all better leave them yangs alone because have you ever seen the thing with the whole or those Asian gangs. Those Asian gangs are treacherous. Have you ever seen that special Asian gas? The Asian gangs will cut your head off a melo to your mama. No, no, you. I know y'all think I'm joking right now, but they, the Asian gangs are terrible niggers. I can't say that I stand with all my Asians brothers and sisters. I

stand with the Asian community as a whole. But just like it's fucked up Asian people's fucked up black people, was fucking white people. And I'm talking about in business establishing mints, I go to the beauty supply which are mostly owned by Asians here where I live in southern California. I still go there to get my mask care of sometimes, or a lip gloss or a wig or what have you. But if I'm not treated fairly or talked to in

a respectful way. I take my money and I rolled the funk up out because my money, my money spends everywhere. And what Jan just say, it is what I always say. I don't walk in your place of business or into your room and demand your respect. I command your respect. You will treat me the way I treat myself, or you will get the wrath of this tongue. And if you think you got a gun behind that counter, I got my purse. No. I mean I agree with you.

I agree with you for short frame. I think that we have to understand the power of the dollar that we have. You know, and we black women. Black women spend so much money at Asian beauty supplies, Asian owned beauty supplies for hair care products and so many other things. If we if and we're not against you guys, we stand with them. But it's just like what you also were, Lauren. Y'all brought that to my pace. They don't stand with us,

but they don't make it right or wrong. I'm sure there aren't something that do yeah, and I'm not I don't want to generalize this here in terms of what tech Jan and I said because we are definitely on the same page. My thing is this, I want the media to call a spade a spade. I'm gonna just run on the list. I want the media to call a spade us say stop white terrorism, because that's what's happening.

I think that as a whole, we need to address the subliminal issues that are between the Asian and the Black community if they expect us to help, I think what we can do is create a rainbow coalition because that's the only way different perspectives are going to actually execute any type of change. But we cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that there are a lot of instances in this country where the Asian community has not been the ally to us that they're not expecting

us to be to them. That's all I'm gonna say. And that's why I brought up Um Natasha Harlans and what happened, because that Korean store owner who shot her in the head did not go to jail, He did not get arrested for murder, even though that it was a woman. I'm sorry, thank you, Kendall. Um it was a woman. She did not get arrested, She did not

go to jail, nothing happened. So there's instances that we also need to address before we just say, oh, we're here to just do what we need to do, because, like I said, we're always the expected race to step in and help when white supremacy is an issue. I'm not saying, like we've all said, nobody, I'm not saying everybody's a bad apple. There are always a couple of

bad apples in whatever community. But we have to be honest about what's happening here to We can't just turn a blind eye and say, oh, yeah, we're here to support. We're here to support. We can't do that either. So that's all I'm saying. Well, what a world we live in, y'all. What a world we live in right now? Thank God that we have such smart people like Nick Smith and Lauren Hogan to just keep us and and and all you flame us to keep us in formed. I'm not

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