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“What’s Up” with Nick Pagliochini & Will Smith’s ‘Oscars Ban’ Thoughts

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ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – “What’s Up” with regular guest contributor Nick Pagliochini delving into everything the Southland has to offer; from the Propstore ‘Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction,’ to the Aquarium of the Pacific ‘Night Dive’ and MORE (@NickPagliochini@ThisWeekendWithNick)…PLUS – At long last, Will Smith has opened up about the infamous Oscars incident and subsequent ban – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1

You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2

Cam I mister b Kelly, but live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You can always check me out on Instagram at mister mo Kelly and at Later with mo Kelly. And also you can always give me a message. I always respond if at all possible. You can drop a message at mister Mokelly on threads or on Instagram.

Speaker 3

We can keep the conversation going there. Look at you using threads. Sorry to interrupt you, but that's impressive.

Speaker 4

Now.

Speaker 5

I've been using threads for a while.

Speaker 2

It's not as good as what Twitter used to be as far as trending topics, ease of just moving around, ease of tagging and hashtagging, I agree with it's not that, but it's functional and it has some features that I really love when dealing with trolls.

Speaker 5

The hide for everyone feature is fantastic.

Speaker 2

I mean, you can say something stupid on a thread to me and I'll just hide for everyone no, and we'll see it. Then I can mute and block your ass into oblivion. It makes me feel so much better.

Speaker 3

And if you're not familiar meta as offering threads as that alternate too. Yes, you know it's a companion of Instagram, but it's an alternate.

Speaker 2

To x I counter less foolishness. That's the only way I can describe on threads. Twitter was sorry, it's just this, and I'm not calling it x F out of here.

Speaker 4

No.

Speaker 5

I get that.

Speaker 2

It's a cesspool and it's just a bunch of nameless, faceless a holes who want to say anything and everything, and I can't respond in kind. Oh I would love to, but I can't. So no, I'm not going to subject subject myself not to go too far off the rails. But do you do Mastadon or Blue Sky or any of the other alternate ones or No? I post occasionally on Blue Sky, I Masterdon hasn't had any real appeal to me. I'll also have accounts on truth, Social Spill, and a couple of others.

Speaker 3

I was gonna say, spill is something that even I have an account for spill, and I don't think anybody really knows.

Speaker 5

I can't figure out spill. It's too damn hard, right No, And I think that's the hard.

Speaker 3

We're so thoroughly saturated right now with everything, and I think this is a great way to jump into what's up with Nick because me trying to keep up with everything that we started this in twenty twenty three, yep, when it became later with Mokelly and it was this weekend with Nick on Fridays, and now trying to figure out every algorithm that's out there, every change that's happened.

I'm going to get into where I was earlier earlier today with Amy King from Wake Up Call and Bill Handles Show here on KFI and just trying to balance out. All right, I gotta cut this for this platform, and I gotta cut this for this platform. It's wild because you're trying to do your best to inform people. But then it's this game that all these major corporations have jumped into playing. And then you have Macedon and Blue Sky.

If you're not familiar with those that are not overseen by a major corporation, that those are more on the free you know, freemium space, and it's really great, but try to navigate it, just like you said in using threads as an example from something we're all familiar with Facebook for meta, we're all familiar with Instagram for meta. And then you've got threads. So again there's those handful of great options available, but it's also trying to like figure it all out.

Speaker 2

It's a learning curve is finding your village and people in the sense of people that you're going to interact with. And it takes a long time because let's say you had your group of people that you would interact with on Twitter. Yeah, then you've got to start all the way over on a new social media app and it doesn't have the same bells and whistles in the settings, are not set up the same way.

Speaker 5

It takes a long time.

Speaker 3

This discovery, just the organic natural discovery of it that's challenging it as it is.

Speaker 5

So well, thanks for going off topic with me. Okay, we're back. Let's talk about superheroes and supervillains.

Speaker 3

So it's just coin of works with I want to talk about it and will probably take it after the break as well. But there is an incredible option that is happening at the Peterson Automotive Museum in.

Speaker 5

Midwell Shoe Peterson.

Speaker 3

Okay, did you go when it was originally the small installation that was over and not? It could be completely wrong with this. I should have done a little bit or better Research, which is unlike me. But when it was over by UCLA, there was a smaller Peterson before the big huge build out with the free standing building across from the Academy Museum on Fairfax, Right, yeah, but it was the small little guy, right. I might have was like, was it real close to Santa Monica?

Speaker 5

Kind of yes?

Speaker 3

Okay, And so now I haven't been to the Peterson. So first of all, I'm going to say just what's up with Nick or this Weekend with Nick? Checking out the Peterson Automotive Museum itself is well worth your time parking on site there if you're interested in the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Their museum is directly across the way. Everything in the Midweel Shure and Miracle

Mile corridor is right right there within walking distance. Great food, you know, Lachman's down the street, all of that, But this is something that is very special and very different from propstore propstore dot com. And you can check out the Lincoln bio at Nick Pauli o'chane in This Weekend with Nick on Instagram is the e theest way to get the details. But they have a multimillion dollar auction

that goes live tomorrow. And when I say multimillion dollar, like, one of the items we saw today was Luke Skywalker Mark Hamill's screen and photo match Metal of Yavin. Is that correct because you're my Yavin.

Speaker 5

It is Yavin.

Speaker 3

Yes, So from New Hope for seventy seven that is expected to go for between three hundred and six hundred thousand dollars. Fact, we pretty much got to go. We got a special preview, that's the truth. But no, I've got all the details for you tonight, So you definitely want to check out the link because Amy King will have an interview in the morning on wake Up Call with the COO of the of prop Store, so you'll be able to get more details and more of insight

and fund and excitement. But I want you to go to this because tomorrow is the one day you get to go in person and see everything that I got to see today. And it is at the Penthouse at the Peterson Automotive Museum. Propstore dot com, Propstore auction dot com. That'll get you the details about it, but I'm not kidding. Go check out the reel that I just posted. You can also see it's shared with later with Mokelly on Instagram that will have all the different things you can see.

We saw things from Elf, so the oh the uh. I'm trying to remember the specific engine that Santy uses in Elf something three thousand, three thousand.

Speaker 5

Is that what it is? Or is it an elf something? Anyway?

Speaker 3

I don't remember ELF's shoes. We saw Buddy's card that he gave to James Conn to his dad's character in it.

You can buy that. There is a screen worn from Superman three Evil Superman, so Christopher Reeves when he has his in Superman three and eighty three, has that change over that's available for you there two hundred to four hundred thousand dollars, like he able to be arm's length away from Anything like that is just wild to me because we have Hollywood in our backyard, and we've had it in our backyard, both the small screen and the

silver screen for so long. We really take it for granted because we enjoy all the content, but we don't really go out and see it.

Speaker 5

And sometimes you got.

Speaker 3

To be a tourist in your own neighborhood, if that makes sense absolutely, because I mean, while I may not want to hop on a bus and take a tour of Hollywood to go see celebrities home is because lord knows, we both know celebrities personally and know where they live, and they're not on those tours, right, So there's a reason for that, but a really good.

Speaker 5

Reason for that. But it's just wild.

Speaker 3

Like we saw Danny Zuko's jacket from Grease Lightning from Greece to the movie, so but like from specifically the one because he had a super shiny one and then he had a little bit more matt that weren't better with the cameras. And what's really cool is every single one of these items you can also see online. I really want you to go and I want you to check it out in person, but you can see them online again propstore dot Com or propstore auction dot com.

Everything goes live tomorrow morning at ten thirty am. It's three days of entertainment Memorabilia live auction happening each day. Tomorrow is the only day you get to go and see it physically in person, whether you're bidding on it or not. Obviously prop Store would love for you to bid on it. I wish I had the kind of coin to drop on this. They had this sick model of Voyager from Star Trek, one of the ones that was used in the filming of it. Absolutely incredible. Also

they had stuff from Back to the Future. I'm looking at the links right now.

Speaker 2

It's a wild right incredible, absolutely incredible store dot com correct And the biggest thing is as funny as it sounds, were starting out with the free ninety nine side of things instead of the other way to go is free ninety nine.

Speaker 3

You have to pay for parking or you have to find parking somewhere near around there, so you pay for whatever the product parking is at the Peterson But yes, thank you Steff Fush it's going to be free ninety nine for you to be able to check out these things. So again, if you want to learn more, I highly encourage it. It opens at ten thirty am tomorrow. They will be doing a live auction in person. You can

also attend it online. So that's why I say Nick Paulio O Kenny this week go and Nick the Lincoln Bio will take you to where you need to go. But get down there. If you've got nothing to do, it's well worth it. You can check it all out Thursday and Friday as well from the comfort of your own home.

Speaker 2

Go to popstore dot com right now, right because I'm looking at this like, I wow, because.

Speaker 5

I'm just trying to think, like, you've got Catwoman.

Speaker 3

So Michelle Feifirst costume from Batman returns, which is incredible but also had definitely seen better days. But you have to think that was from ninety two, so you know, we've all weathered a little bit from ninety two. Yeah, not just the costumes, but that was amazing. Amy King's always excited about top guns. So Tom Cruise Mavericks nineteen eighty six photo match Bomber Jacket is available for you to buy fifty to one hundred K.

Speaker 2

See, I'm just looking at like they have Orlando Blooms photo id pass from black Hawk down. How little stuff like that, Like, yeah, it's random but specific at the same time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, for sure, so it's well worth it. It's a lot of fun. I had a blast doing it. I got a great time tearing through it as Moe is doing right now. Propstore dot com or propstore Auction dot com. You can get the links in bio at Nick poliochany this week with a Nick or later with mo Kelly on Instagram and You can also check out a real that I shot of just kind of running through just a handful of the exhibits. They weren't even fully set

up for guests to come in. They have a special event tonight going on.

Speaker 5

I would.

Speaker 3

I'm sad I'm not there, but I much rather be here always with you guys. But yeah, it's definitely something to check out. Uh and you've got that, but I've got more do We'll do it on yeah side.

Speaker 2

On the other side, Nick Poliochetty joins me in studios Later with mo Kelly. We'll find out what's up with Nick and more k if I Am six forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from kf I Am six forty.

Speaker 4

Nick.

Speaker 6

What kf I Am six forty It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5

Nick Poliochini continues to join me in studio. Nick, what is up? Well?

Speaker 3

I want to talk about something that's coming up this weekend and it granted, I always want you to when you're going to these events. Be sure to tune into Later with mo Kelly Monday through Friday from seven to ten, especially for cult classic movies on Friday at nine o'clock. But this Friday is Night Dive over in my neck of the woods at the Aquarium of the Pacific and Long Beach, and this is an eighteen and over event that takes over the entire aquarium, music, Art and Culture

U Their spring program is this Friday. They pretty much have one going March, June, July, August, so it looks like this is just the only spring offering that's gonna be available. But they will have a live band there, several DJs, music, cocktails, dancing, food, you name it. So if you've not been to the Aquarium of the Pacific, it's a fantastic opportunity for you to go and enjoy whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 5

A day with the fishes.

Speaker 3

It sounds very are you're gonna be sleeping with a fishes, very moblive right exactly. But this is one of those events that they take the footprint of something that's existing and completely changed it up, which is always a good time. I have been a member at the Aquarium for many, many years, but it's so funny because there's people who are members of things that are in their backyard but

not the direct backyard. So I have been a member of the of the Pacific long before I lived in Long Beach, just because it was so cool to have something in the city that was close to where I grew up for the most part with my grandparents, and so to have that it's well worth checking out during the day, and being a member is always a great opportunity. But if you're a non member, it's still not too bad because if you figure members for this event forty

bucks or thirty nine ninety five. For non members, it's forty five dollars, so you save five bucks by being a member of the aquarium. But this is a great date night opportunity if you want to go, or if you want to go meet some singles, it's not a bad thing either, or just take a group of friends.

But I love it because it's a venue that is predominantly If you go during the day, you're gonna see a bunch of schools that are there and a bunch of kids that are there, and this is an opportunity for you to kind of be a nerd and geek out about things. Like we talked about last week the grunn In Run. They will definitely be touching on that. There's no grun in running at the aquarium itself specifically,

but it's something else for you to check out. And the thing that starts this weekend and runs all the way through April is something that I absolutely love and is genuinely an institution in southern California. We all know that I'm a huge fanboy of Disney and being a Disney adult, but not it's very farm over way to park,

not that far away from Disneyland. They're kicking off their Boysonberry Festival, and I will tell you the one thing that I was incredibly impressed with nots especially during the pandemic, is they figured out how to open the park and get socially distanced time because it's a park, so everyone's outdoors and so it was a great opportunity. And they really have gotten their food festivals dialed in. Don't get it twisted. I absolutely love the food and wine festival

that's underway right now, Disney California Adventure. In fact, I'll be talking about that more next week, but not Sperry Farm. The Bois and Berry Festival opens this weekend on the twenty eighth, runs through April twenty seventh. If you have a season pass like I do, it's a great opportunity to get over there. Not s Very Farm season passes which is also now inclusive depending on what you buy of Six Flags Magic Mountain because of the same company.

They are all part of the Cedar Fair family and they really are reasonable. And when I say that, there are other theme parks that I've talked about spoken of that are very very much a financial investment if you will to become an annual pass hole. Yes, say expensive, def and expensive, and it walid provides an incredible well worth it thing. Knots Berry Farm is just such a

different vibe period whether you're the day or night. I love that they have Camp Snoopy, which is available for kids, and they have revamped it so that has reopened with all the new attractions that are available for you there. But the Boys and Berry Festival, everything that is Boisonberry is there, and that really is what put knots Berry Farm on the map originally when it was just a berry farm off of Root sixty six.

Speaker 2

Do they still sell it in stores grocery stores?

Speaker 5

They don't.

Speaker 3

So the thing is is you're able to because Smuckers bought the Knots brand after a number of years ago. The only place in the entire world that you can purchase Knots Berry Farm branded jams and jellies is physically on site or I think it's Knots Marketplace dot com. But those are the only two places that you're able to find any of this. And what's even cooler is

with the Boys and Berry Festival. Obviously, every single food item, every cocktail, every mocktail, even wines and beers all have boisonberry in some way, shape or form involved with them. So it's not great on your waistline, but it is a great for a good time, and it's a great opportunity because you're gonna try to ride.

Speaker 5

I tried. I didn't completely crash and burn.

Speaker 3

Okay, it went well enough, but no, I just think Knots Berry Farm is that unsung hero, especially now because the weather is beautiful, it's not too warm yet, and you're able to do something that is not going to break the bank and get out there and enjoy a solo trip, a couple's trip, a family trip, and you name it, or become an interpassolder with them and get

a season pass because they're really, really reasonable. You do need to be aware that they do still have chaperone policies, so kids under eighteen during certain times of the year, you'll be able to check you on Not's berry Farm and they'll be able to give that to you. But the bois and Berry Festival and I am reached out to my friends at Notts and hopefully when I'm back in next week, even if I don't talk about it all that much, I will definitely be bringing you some boys and very treats.

Speaker 5

I appreciate that Mark never brings me anything.

Speaker 2

I know.

Speaker 3

Well, the worst part is I was trying to figure out how are going to put cookies and cream and boisonberg.

Speaker 5

I don't know if that's going to roll. I don't know if that's going to work, but something to that effect.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'll figure it out when Nick, when he comes here, he usually brings me something.

Speaker 5

I don't get jack from these jokers.

Speaker 3

I was gonna say, I love that you all are getting thrown another box, like just out a question, and neither Stephen or Mark is anither. They're busy, No, no, they know it's truck right, But I'm like, I'm looking at them right now on the cameras, They're like, should I respond, what is there anything the button used to contradict what he's saying.

Speaker 4

No, No, it's just that you wouldn't want anything that I would bring, like a black olive dish.

Speaker 3

That's what What kind of dish are you going to bring with black olives? Because you got to take us there first of all. I love how you take us there, which makes perfect sense. You open the door, let's walk through.

Speaker 4

Well, I'd find one. I mean, I could come up with one with a black olive dish. Oh, there must be all sorts of delicious black olive dishes that Moe would love.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Speaker 2

See, that's why I prefer Nick because I know that right there, it's Later mo Kelly.

Speaker 5

That's always good.

Speaker 3

Seeing a pleasure is always be sure to check me out on Instagram as the easiest Nick Pauli o'keanney in this weekend and Nick also a lot of times. You can catch some of my content on Later with mo' kelly, also on Instagram.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2

Will Smith is getting himself back out there in the wake of the controversy. He's spent three years now, imagine that three years since that unfortunate Oscar slap, and I have always been consistent in my condemnation of it. If you put hands on someone that's as salt and battery,

it should have been treated as a crime. Yes, Chris Rock declined to press charges, but sometimes, and you see this in domestic violence cases all the time, you don't even need to have a willing victim for charges to be filed, especially when it happens in front of the whole world. For me, was never any justification for Will Smith to walk down and put hands on Chris Rock.

Speaker 5

I don't believe, accept or agree.

Speaker 2

That Chris Rock somehow insulted Jada Pinkett Smith so flagrantly and egregiously that his only option was to put hands on Chris Rock. Sorry, and I commend Chris Rock for not physically escalating that moment, knowing the whole world just watching. I review that because you may not remember. Part of the punishment air quotes for Will Smith was a ten year ban, and I think it's more apt to call it a suspension because a ban is permanent.

Speaker 5

Suspension is more like a postponement.

Speaker 2

Of his participation in any Oscar related activity, to which he was asked specifically about the Oscar suspension now that he's doing more media in support of this new album and tour, and this is what Will Smith had to say about it with the band and everything, are you looking to appeal or you just looking just to write everything out and just continue to do you I am looking to be the best human I can possibly be, and I'm gonna take what I get with that.

Speaker 5

Huh what does that even mean? If you could see both of our faces? What does it even mean? The best human I could Yeah. I think all of us on.

Speaker 2

A daily basis wake up and not explicitly, but implicitly think, let me see if I can have the best day possible.

Speaker 5

Just be the best person. I can be the best version of myself.

Speaker 2

But Will Smith, in response to a question about the Oscar band slash suspension right wanted to dither and deflect and talk about how he's just trying to be the best person he can be.

Speaker 5

No, no, no, no, that's going forward.

Speaker 2

He was asking about the past as far as that incident, how you look upon it, how you're going to navigate it for the next I don't know six years or so that it's going to be in effect. It's a relevant question, it's a question which is going to be repeatedly asked of him.

Speaker 5

And let me give you some behind the scenes.

Speaker 2

I would bet dollars to donuts anyone who has been granted the opportunity to interview Will Smith, and I know Mark Roger knows about this, there probably will be a list of topics and questions which will be verboten, which will not be allowed to ask what you will be told that you can't bring up or they're not going to agree to the interview. And if you go against that, Will Smith probably will walk out.

Speaker 4

Yeah, a real journalist doesn't agree to stuff like that. Hacks Will people who have no journalistic integrity and just want to be climbers. But I would never agree to limitations on an interview.

Speaker 2

The only limitations that I agree to are the personal questions. In other words, whenever I interview someone, I'm not going to ask about the personal life unless the personal life is the whole peg of the interview. In this situation, the peg or in other words, the reason for the interview would be the tour his new music and so forth. I'm not going to ask, so, do you end Jada

have an open relationship? I would never do that, but I would be employing journalistic malpractice if I did not ask him about Chris Rock.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you also have to have some kind of internal compass.

I mean, if you want to see examples of people who have done it wrong, look at the awkward interviews with Robert Downey Junior where they completely inappropriately decide they want to ask him about his ancient history of troubles with drugs and the law, and he kind of tolerates it up to a point, and then he ends the interview rightfully, so right, but with Will Swift, Will Smith No no, no, no, no no. He hasn't even made amends for his Wild

Wild West movie. He gets to get asked apology. He was the world in apology, and he gets to get asked about that slap in perpetuity. I mean that was in front of a billion people.

Speaker 2

And although he may have apologized quote unquote on social media, there's still a conversation to be had in the wake of it as far as what was going through his mind had the follow up to that answer, and also I need an explanation as to what has changed since then.

Speaker 4

There's been nothing like that, especially not in Oscar history. I mean there are stories about when Sasheen Little Feather accepted or rejected rather the Oscar for Brando, that people had to hold John Wayne back, but you didn't see any footage of that.

Speaker 2

We all saw this, And although I'm quite sure Will Smith would like to move past it, I've never interviewed him. I've met him in passing when he and Jada had just gotten together. I don't even think they're even married yet. I mean this is decades ago, so I don't know

anything about him personally. I doubt I will ever have the opportunity to actually interview him because to what Mark was saying, I'm not going to agree to the stipulations which inevitably they would want to place on the interview.

Speaker 5

And I get it. His people have one job, and that is to protect Will Smith.

Speaker 2

That's why you have a publicist, That's why you have a crisis publicist, That's why you have a manager. You want to limit those things which may blow up in his or her face depending on the person that you're paid to protect, and not generate bad publicity. I get it. I don't sandbag any of my interviewees. I don't do gotcha questions, but I have to ask Will Smith if he's sitting in front of me certain questions about that night.

We can also talk about the album. We can also talk about the tour, but I'm damn sure not going to talk about the latter and disregard the former.

Speaker 4

Yeah, his publicists can ask anything they want, but they better not mistake me for one of the publicists.

Speaker 5

If I'm doing the interview.

Speaker 2

Oftentimes, especially if I'm interviewing high level either entertainment guests or political guests, they will ask for the questions in advance.

Speaker 5

No way explicitly, No, I'm saying, they will ask, Hey, can we get the questions in advance? Right?

Speaker 2

Hell's f and no, And I can tell you about some of the subjects we're going to cover, I'd be more than happy.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's an instant non starter. No legit person would submit to that. But you also have to understand that, as much as we don't like to admit it, there are different standards for newspaper, radio, TV, and the kind of thing like these all day junken interviews where you get like three minutes and then it's the next in line.

They're all a little different, and you must decide, if you're the journalist or if you want to call yourself a journalist, what you're willing to do, what you're willing to put up with. I never put up with any of that stuff because I can live without the interview if it's too you know, if they think that they're going to control the questions I ask.

Speaker 2

And not only that, that's part of the reason why I don't do junket interviews anymore. I'm not sitting around a table and it's a literal table where you have six different journalists and there's about ten minutes and you get maybe one question two at the max. And that's not an interview because that means your one question has to be about the project, the thing that they're promoting.

Speaker 5

That's not a real dialogue. And if I were to have a.

Speaker 2

Conversation with Will Smith, it would be a very genuine, sincere, respectful conversation about the biggest moment in Oscar history. If I didn't ask that question, I don't deserve to sit behind this microphone.

Speaker 4

Oh god, no, you don't avoid the elephant in the room just because it's going to make somebody uncomfortable. You're not under their employe, and there is a dance that you have to do.

Speaker 2

And what I do is I have to develop a rapport with a person almost immediately. Sometimes I have a chance to talk to that person before the interview, so they get a feeling for me, I get a feeling for him or hurt, and maybe they become a little bit more comfortable and more inclined to share more.

Speaker 5

That's my job.

Speaker 2

If I'm doing my job very well, I can get someone to open up, tell some stories, some anecdotes, and they'll almost like forget that they're in an interview. If I'm doing my job very well, that's the hardest part because I have to develop that report immediately. But I have quote unquote an agenda. My agenda is to get the most out of that person as possible.

Speaker 5

If you act like a.

Speaker 4

Crazy, violent person in front of the entire world, you have no right whatsoever to request that that'd be off limits in future interviews.

Speaker 5

None.

Speaker 1

Oh.

Speaker 2

I just remember, Mark, I didn't even tell this to you or Tawala. Remember when we had Randy Economy on and we're talking about the recall effort the latest one against gavindusm I do. He is also very closely connected to Mel Gibson. Oh okay, And I was talking to Randy. I said, hey, I would love to have Mel Gibson on, but I damn sure I am not going to have Mel Gibson on and not talk about the totality of how we got to this moment where he is obviously becoming more and more of a political figure.

Speaker 5

He is still making movies, but people do still have.

Speaker 2

Some reservations and misgivings about where he is now. We have to have that conversation on some level. And the reason why we haven't had that conversation yet we haven't come to any sort of understanding. Now Randy may have forgotten or Randy didn't follow up, but Randy knows me well enough to know that I have real conversations with people. I'd love to have a conversation with Mel Gibson, but it's not only going to be to promote his political interests.

Speaker 4

I'm not nobody gets a free pass, but it could still be a fair interview.

Speaker 2

I would like to think that's what I specialize in. I see it's later with mo Kelly. Not everyone wants to answer real questions. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2

And before we get out of here, yes, I have my final thought for the evening. And it's still the biggest story in the world, so I'm not going to run away from it. Of course, I'm talking about signal leak. We're learning more and more as time goes on. We're learning who was on the text thread, more about the information which was shared in that chat, and the spin which is being used to defend it or minimize it.

It is the biggest story in the world. And of course a bunch of comparisons are being made to Hillary Clinton, but you know, for political purposes, mostly insincere comparisons. Some what have you believed that Clinton's use of a personal server was worse, and those same people claim hipocrisy. Others will argue that the signal leak is worse and they'll

yell hipocrisy. And there's even a third group which will pose the hypothet of just imagine if Lloyd Austin or some other sect def did the same thing, what would happen, all pretty predictable stuff. But this ain't hard. This is rather easy, you know how, I say, get the easy ones right. This is so simple. People make it hard needlessly. So here's the solution. Just treat them all the same. I'm not talking about the spin, the media coverage, or

measurement of the outrage. Just treat the actual individuals, the players involved, the same. That's the only supposed hypocrisy anyone should worry about. Not what Fox hosts say or who they defend, not what MSNBC hosts say or who they condemn. Just treat the actual individuals, the players involved, the same. The actual hypocrisy is in not treating them and investigating all of them the same. I hope that's not some

sort of controversial statement. If you thought Hillary Clinton and should have been locked up, that means at the minimum, you thought she should have been investigated. She was investigated, She gave a statement to the FBI, she was brought before Congress and testified for eleven hours. A full report was released by a Republican led committee, which also found no wrongdoing on her part. Yes that's what it found. You can google it for yourself. But the same should

be done here. Treat them all the same, investigation congressional hearings, and let the chips fall where they may. It doesn't mean you're like the outcome or even agree with it. But it shouldn't be about taking anyone's word, like Congressman Dan Crenshaw said he would take Pete Hegseth at his word. No, no, no, not when it comes to national security issues. But Mo, you're just a Democrat.

Speaker 5

No I'm not. Mo, You're just a flating liberal. No I'm not.

Speaker 2

I'll have you know that I was the first person here on KFI who said that I believe Hillary Clinton should have been charged given what we knew and the negligence alleged relative to the statute.

Speaker 5

I got the audio to prove it. I was the first.

Speaker 2

I was on the air ind for Gary and Shannon when former FBI Director James Colemey made his public declination of charging Clinton.

Speaker 5

But I'm all about consistency. Treat them all the same.

Speaker 2

If there's a flagrant departure from protocol when it comes to handling sensitive or dare I say.

Speaker 5

Classified information, then treat them all the same.

Speaker 2

I don't care if it if it's boxes in your goal plated bathroom at your resort or in your garage at your home in Delaware. Investigate accordingly. Let the chips fall where they may. But see, that's why we have correction, That's why we had Inspectors General.

Speaker 5

That's the exact purpose for them. Here's how I know.

Speaker 2

Remember when former sectorf Lloyd Austin disappeared to have a prostate procedure and didn't tell then President Biden, it was immediately investigated by the Inspector General, and then Austin was then sanctioned for his behavior. It went a little something like increase it's the unnecessarily unnecessary risk to national security. That was from the Inspector General. There is, or at least was a process in place for moments like these.

The Inspectors General used to be independent of any administration. Unfortunately no longer. But that's the purpose that they serve. And here's another point. We don't need to, nor should we depend on cable news hosts or interviews of these same people on cable news to get to the truth. People can and do lie in interviews. I'm here to tell you it is perfectly legal to lie to us in interviews, and they do but.

Speaker 5

It's a little more difficult to do under oath.

Speaker 2

At least it might or at least used to come with some degree of consequences because of the vile analysis. Either we actually care about national security or we don't. It's one or the other, but it's sure as hell won't be both, or when politically convenient for kf I AM six forty, I'm O Kelly, k f I M k OS T h D two, Los Angeles, Orange County

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