You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly Tuesday Night. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And joining us in studio is Chris Woolsey Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment. Chris, my brother. It's always good to see you. How you been. I've been well. How about you. I've been doing all right. I follow you on Instagram and you're always gallivanting around the world.
I like to see the travels of you, your family and all the things that you do. We've had a busy couple of weeks. Yes, yes, yep. We had a wedding and then my wonderful nephew got married up in Sacramento, and a few days before my mom decided to take a flying leap and unfortunately broke her hip. Oh I'm running for hip surgery. So we were juggling Mom in the hospital and a wedding that was getting put on. So it was a busy week, event filled, yes, that
it is. But Mom pulled through like a champ outstanding. Everything's great, all right, all right. Outside of that, you also probably try to take in some movies every now and then, be it streaming or in the theaters, But what do you find. Put it this way, my desires usually change with the seasons as we get closer to summer. Definitely in spring, I want more action, more adventure, things of that nature. Yes,
blockbusters definitely are on my summer dance card for sure, yep. But it doesn't seem like there are a lot of summer blockbusters on the horizon and definitely not big movies in theaters. I mean, there's Fall Guy, but I don't know how big that is given its lackluster first weekend. Yeah, I guess it brought in less than they were hoping. It didn't a lot less, like yeah, like twenty eight million something like that. It brought
in twenty eight millions. And what was projected Mark, do you remember what Fall Guy was projected to get in its first week? Around forty forty Okay, that's significant, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, you and I were talking about that, Like, I like Ryan Gosling as an actor, but I don't know, like it it seems really actorly to have him as a big action star. Ryan Gosling, I don't mind him. I'm
just not sure. I buy him in certain roles. I don't buy him as the action guy, like, for example, I liked The Gray Man, which was on Netflix. I probably would have liked it a lot better if someone else was cast in Gosling's role. Is that right? Yeah? And I'm not against Ryan Gosling. It's just how you perceive actors. He's fine in what he does. I didn't see Blade Runner twenty forty nine. Mark, was he good at that? It's good and he's good in it?
Really? Okay? Yeah? I liked him, and that probably one of my favorite roles of his. All right, all right, but you know it fit for me seeing him in movies like Barbie. Sure, yeah, yeah, I think when he's slightly comedic, he fits what I think he does. He thrives at yep, less so than action. I agree. But Mark had seen The fall Guy and you were generally okay with it. No, I thought it was terrible. Okay, It's got a weirdly high rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Last I checked, it was something about like
eighty three percent. But I found it just to be nearly unbearable, and it outstated's welcome by maybe a half hour. Okay, all right, Well, if anything, it kind of reminds us what we're looking for in an action movie. The fall Guy is an idea. I wasn't even biging to the TV show. I don't even know if the show was even considered a hit in its day. Well it left it I think around five seasons.
That many seasons. Yeah, Ok, that's not small. No, it's not small, But it wouldn't have been my first pick for something to turn into a movie. Boot Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. But I'm quite sure it inspires you as far as well. I should say we all like action movies. They think the general moviegoer appreciates action movies. What are some of the elements that you require in an action movie? Well, so I've often talked my son is in a film program, and so he likes
to talk like film theory. Why does this movie work? This movie doesn't? And we talk about leading men in action films and why someone like Harrison Ford is very successful in action franchises. And I think it's because he's a relatable action star. He's often off his pins and like me, I'm off my pins going to the grocery store, you know, let alone, you know, jumping off the roof. I mean that's why Fallible, Yeah, that's why Diehard is such a great film. He doesn't have a shoes for
like right two thirds of the movie. That makes him like a really vulnerable hero. And I love that in action films. If there's some sort of fatal flaw in the hero that keeps him from being impregnable, that is engaging to me. All Right, is there anything on your list that you know that you want to see as we start moving towards the summer season? You know what I have not seen we want to go see. I think we talked about this one to go see Monkey Man a couple of weeks ago,
and there were like ten trailers. I think one or two of the movies actually looked like I was excited about it. And I don't know, There's just doesn't seem to be a ton in the pipeline right now. The only things that I can think of that I know I want to see absolutely need to see our Furiosa and Wolverine and Deadpool. That's it. I can't There may be something which will come along the way. The reason I mentioned that it's already been a very soft box office season. We talk about how theater
chains are struggling. It's one thing to have a movie in which does relatively well on a given weekend, but what about the other four or five days of the week sure in which they're supposed to be open. You need to have movies which not only have staying power, but also encourage the casual movie fan, the movie goer to really come and make the effort and go to
a movie theater. Because I'm not and I would like to think of myself as someone who really loves movies and pre pandemic thoroughly enjoyed the theater experience. Now, I know that movie's not going to hang around in theaters long, whether I want to see it or not. If I'm patient or even somewhat
impatient, it'll be on streaming in about two to three weeks. And now, if I'm willing to pay nineteen ninety nine for that first release, you know on demand, I watch the movie have that pretty good home theater setup. Pretty good yep, yep, me too. And so you know we've talked about this before, but I love to go to the movies. I love the theatrical experience. I think there is something to that that even in
a nice home environment. I would prefer if as long as the movie is engaging and it gets me to the theater, I would prefer to see it in the theater than I would in my home. There's just something magical about going to a movie theater and I love that. But that being said, it's way more expensive to take my family to the movie theater, and so
there has to be some sort of a draw. There has to be a level of quality that I'm going to lay down that much money rather than set on my couch and pay like you said nineteen ninety nine and pop my own popcorn and drink my own soda. That's interesting. The cost doesn't bother me. It's yeah, it's more cost prohibitive for some folks. Not that I'm richer at that, but if I want to see a movie, I want to see a movie. The cost is on things. For me, it's
the time commitment. I know that it's going to take about four hours of my day, be it driving to the theater, the ten trailers that I have to watch before I even get to the movie, and then driving back. It's much more of a commitment as opposed to being home. I may watch two thirds of a movie and I'll pause it or you know, come back to it later. It afore it fits more my lifestyle, not being in the theater. Sure see, I'm Scottish, so everything comes down in
dollars. See it's a variable for me, but it's not the variable. Sure, sure, I wanted to see Oppenheimer. I went to the theater. I saw Oppenheimer. Yep, it was great, but it also took an extra hour out of my day of a three hour movie. You know, it was a commitment that I'm not going to make for all of them, for sure. So with all that said, when we come back, let's get into Crackle and Redbox and how this action conversation possibly figures into your
selection. And so for the week, it's later with Mo Kelly, Chris Woolsey Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment joins me in the studio and he he's here with gifts. Oh yes, we have some folks who are cat lovers, and you've brought cat food and cat literature. I did both. Gonna tell us about it when we come back. Sure love to all right?
Can if I am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app you're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty can'f I am six forties Later with Mo Kelly and Chris Wolsey from Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Chris, you have cat food in the studio. Why is that because we have a new cat book that
is on the shelves. So Chicken Soup for the Soul comes out with you know, feel good literature to bring a smile to your face and a pepping your step. And this most recent book is Me and My Cat. And these are stories about how cats have changed people's lives, how their relationship with their cat has impacted them in a positive way. Mark, you had two cats, unfortunately no longer with us. Did they change your life? Absolutely? I love them. I cried more when they died than when my mother
died. And I'm not making that up. I don't know what to think about that, but I will take you at your word. Well, I wasn't that close with my mother, but rhenomenal cat Okay. But as you were saying, Chris, I'm sorry, no, no, yeah, And so this book is filled with heartwarming stories that that cat lovers are really going
to enjoy. I am a dog person. We've talked about ye and every time people tell me stories about when they got their cat, I always smile and then you're absolutely But in my head I'm thinking, were they out of dogs when you were there? What exactly happened? How did you wind up with a cat? But these stories are really really beautiful, and uh, they're all submitted by fans of Chicken Soup and The Soul, like all of our books are, and so it's neat. It's kind of like a compilation
of people who love whatever that subject is. And this is me and my cat and it just came out a couple of weeks ago, but they are on the shelves in your favorite bookstore. Now. Appreciate to be a part of our giveaways. We do appreciate you and your giveaways. And so we brought the Chicken Soup for the Soul cat food as well, so feel free to give those away. We're definitely going to give one bag to Amy King because we know that she is a cat owner, and so we'll do something
very cool with the other bed. Tell Amy King that these this is the the gold bar of of cat food. I mean this is everything in This is top shelf, top of the line, no grain fillers or anything like that. And so it's a really good product to feed your cat salmon and brown rice recipe. They're probably eating better than I am. My god. This is like the neighborhood dealer getting you hooked on the good stuff. This isn't kibble. Okay, first, one's always free. Let's get into these
movies crackle Hollywood action documentaries. Yes, so we have. We were talking about The Fall Guy being in theaters now and we have got one of the best. I love documentaries in general, but I love documentaries about Hollywood history in particular, and I've got to say this is one of the best documentaries on a very little known niche of Hollywood history, and that is not only stunt men, but in the early to late sixties, early seventies and on,
it was British stunt men. In particular. There was this group of Banish ex soldiers that decided that they were going to become stuntmen, and they came to the US and really revolutionized the stunt industry, mostly because they would do things that American stuntmen wouldn't necessarily do, and so they were the stuntmen in Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, all the Bond movies,
Alien, Rambo, Superman. If somebody jumped off the roof of a high rise on fire, it was quite possibly one of the guys from this documentary. And they interview them in the documentary and you cannot believe the stories that these guys tell. It's a miracle any of them survived. Interesting memory, the origins of Alien. That's a good segue. Yes. So this is written and directed by Alexander Philippe, really really good. It's got interviews with
a bunch of the original cast, Tom Scarett, Veronica Cartwright. Oh, I want to take check this out. There's some footage in there from Dan O'Bannon, who was co writer of the script. They talked to Roger Corman about his thoughts on it, and it basically goes through the archtypal journey of how the writers came up with this terrifying scenario because it was very different before you had horror films and you had science fiction films, and Alien was the
first one of those really to blur those lines. And it's really a horror movie in space, but why was it so terrifying? And this documentary goes into all the arc types that Dan O'Bannon mined in order to make this one of the most horrific theatrical experience. And I know, I know why it worked. They hid the alien, the monster for at the xenomorph as they call it, for a lot of the movie, which helped yep for sure, like Jaws. Yeah, yep, very quickly, red Box. What
do you got for us? For red Box? We've got a ton of action films. We've got a great one Hammer of the Gods. This is starring Charlie Beuley from Nashville on the series Nashville, Alexander Dowling from Game Thrones, and it's about a young Nordic prince who arrives in England in eight seventy one to fight off a Saxon uprising. But he has to go find his brother, who's named Hokin the Ferocious, in order to band the family together
against the Saxons. And it's all based loosely on real history. So that's a hard name to live up to, right, I'm saying expectations exactly what's your name? Just call me the ferocious. That's all you need to know. That's right, yep, yeap, give me one more hobo with a shotgun. W yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm telling you. This is Ricker Hower. That's it. The classic Rutgerhower. This is one of those movies that the title pretty much tells you everything you need to know
about the movie. Rutgerhower plays a hobo. He stumbles onto a shotgun. How do I not know this one? It is? And so it's actually I looked it up. It's based on a fake trailer that Robert Rodriguez did for Grindhouse, and filmmakers saw that and was like, no, that should be a real movie. And so he it's you know, it's a vigilante. Uh, it's falling down. It's a guy who's pushed over the edge.
He sees all the evil almost a taxi driver feel. He sees all the evils of the city, and of course, of course, and he was perfect. He wants to do something about it, and the shotgun is his weapon of choice. But it is. It is an exploitation film to the eleventh degree. My favorite Rutger Howard movie this that I know what it is. Yeah, split second. Oh oh, I thought you were gonna
say black The second was so bad it was good. Is this like this this I don't want to say time time traveling monster, but this monster that he's gonna goin that's the one where all heat is. He's got a refrigerator filled with chocolate. Yes, and Samantha from Sex and the City is Yes, that's another way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terrible, terrible movie, wasn't it. It's so good. The Blind Fury, on the other hand, is just good. Yes, I'm sorry. But hobo
with a gun, hobo shotgun yep. Yeah. So if you're looking for a gore fest, over the top exploitation film, uh, Quentin Tarantino loves this movie, it's uh, it's definitely one to check out. Okay, definitely. You have some great suggestions, you have some great gifts that you've dropped by, and I am monitoring my diet. Thank you for not bringing any chocolate chip cookies. I was concerned because you said you're bearing gifts tonight
and I said, please, don't have them bringing those chocolate chips. But they're coming at least are not coming tonight. That's all that matters. I'm trying to be good tonight, Chris is always great to see you, and I hope to see you again soon, but not too soon, because you're gonna bring chocolate chip cookies. That's right, awesome. Always great to be
here, great to be among the beautiful people. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty And unfortunately, it seems that Marvel slash Disney has found its way into a larger debate about politics and woke castings and weather people in a general sense, has super hero fatigue. I've long argued that it's not super hero fatigue. I think it's an unwillingness to
keep spending money on subpar movies. If you go back and look at the earlier Marvel movies, going back to as early as two thousand and eight with the first Iron Man, those are superior movies, superior storytelling. Then maybe some of the more recent movies. Not that The Eternals was bad, it just wasn't very good. Not that Sean She wasn't that bad. It just
wasn't very good. And I think the more recent Marvel we did a poor job of connecting to the larger universe which was the point of the whole Marvel cinematic universe. That was a lot of the appeal. Would you disagree with Mark? I think I may have a somewhat harsher opinion of the Bo cause you mentioned that than you do it, including the Marvels Boy that was a Code Brown. Well, the Marvels I did not like it all, but I didn't mind Captain Marvel. I think we take for granted just the overt
and window of these movies. I mean, the first ones, the first phase were so good going right up through Avengers Endgame. Yes, that the ones that maybe we would have just thought were sort of mediocre look terrible in comparison to those m h And there was a discussion about whether Marvel had lost
its way, Disney had lost its way. Was it connected to Bob Chpek, the guy who they hired for a short amount of time, and then Bob Iiger came back in to replace and I guess reset everything Disney was doing in a cinematic sense. To that end, the news now is Disney CEO Bob Iger said the company Disney will limit its output of Marvel movies to, as he describes it, two good films a year three maximum, Marvel at
their height had at least four. It's weird to fix a specific number on it instead of just saying, well, green light it when it's good. That's what I think they should do. This year, Marvel only has one movie. When I say Marvel, I'm talking about the Marvel production company run by Kevin Faige, not any movie which has a Marvel character in it, which could be inclusive of Sony pictures like that horrible Madam Web's. Oh yeah, that's not a Disney movie. That's not even what they say is a
Marvel movie. That's a movie which has Marvel characters in it, and they intentionally try to confuse you to make you believe that that's part of the Marvel cinematic universe that everyone loves and adores. It's less a movie than a war crime. Well, they prosecute people for war crimes. Usually somebody needs to
go to the hay for this one. And also, Bob Iger said he was going to decrease the number of series that Disney would do from in a Marvel sense, from four down to two, which would mean if you know, they had a series called Hawkeye, they had a series called miss Marvel. They I don't know if this impacts the Star Wars portion of the Disney Company, but in terms of just Marvel series, there will not be more than two in a given year. We know Daredevil's coming out and that every
indication is that that's going to be outstanding. I hope and I expected to. I have no reason not to. When they get back to the Bread and Butter, I think Marvel will be just fine. The problem with Phase four and Phase five, if you follow the phases, they were mostly new characters, untethered to any story beforehand, and they didn't pay them off to
link them back to the heritage characters that we loved. Leading up to Avengers Endgame, which was the end of Phase three, they abandoned all the things which they were successful doing. Okay, be honest with me. When Captain America threw and caught Thor's hammer, did you shout in the theater? The whole theater erupted, erupted. But also we were more emotionally invested in those characters because we spent the better part of twelve thirteen years with a lot of
them. Going back to that was like twenty nineteen of Ironman first Iron Man was two thousand and eight. Avengers in Game was twenty nineteen, so you had a good eleven years with those characters all total. Yeah, they built it up just expertly, and they didn't do that in Phase four and Phase
five. The movies they had in Phase four, we've not seen them appear anywhere else other than like an end credit shot where you think it's supposed to lead to something and they exist in the same universe, but they're not actually interacting in a movie sense. On screen, Where's Blade? Where's Black Knight? Blade keeps getting pushed back for some sort of reasons, you know, off screen issues as far as writers and direction issues, And that's weird.
That's weird because that should be a gimme because those Wesley Snipe Blade movie Snipe's Blade movies were before the MCU started, and they've really kickstarted comic book superhero movie. Yes, really good. It's saved what we know of as Marvel today. Even the third one is watchable, no matter what anybody tells you. With Drake. Yeah, well, okay, it's watchable, but it's not horrible. It's it's a pretty solid evening. If you watch all three
of them. It is, and it also kickstarted a lot of people careers. People forget that Ryan Reynolds was in the second one. He was in the third one. Wasn't it was the third one. Was in one of them, yeah, the third one he was Hannibal something or other. Yeah. And also Jessica Biele and others. Yeah. So there are quality movies. They age pretty well, they hold up over the years. But Marvel just kind of got away from the stuff which made them successful, and Bob
Iger saying, let's just put out quality as opposed to quantity. It's a simple answer, but it's the best answer. And I can't wait for Deadpool of Wolverine. The trailers for that are so funny and they're so transgressive based on how controlling we know Disney is. It's it's putting a joke on display for every It's very self aware, very self aware. And part of the reason why I think that movie's going to be a hit is because they're allowing
Deadpool to be Deadpool. It's not a PG water down version of them. It's Deadpool, with the exception of the cocaine jokes that he's not allowed to do right. Right. Have you seen the very latest one where they have a Paul Rudd joke that made me laugh out loud by myself. No, I refuse to watch. I don't want to be exposed to anymore. I don't want any more hints or things to look forward to in the movie. I don't want to see anything else. So you don't want you to ruin
it for you? Is that what you're saying? You ruin everything? Just your beer presence ruins everything. Well, I was having accomplish, I was having a good day that all of a sudden here comes Mark just gonna rain on my parade. That's why I love coming to work. I love you too. Later with Mo Kelly k if I AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. Sam Ash Music is where you can get it all.
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them here in southern California. And whereas the easy responses, well the economy's going to hell, here's another example. No slow down, slow down. It's sam Ash. It's selling guitars, it's selling electronics equipment that people like me we buy online. Now I'll give you a correlation. I loved Guitar Center. Loved guitar Center. Most people are familiar with Guitar Center. If
you're not familiar with sam Ash, get the same types of things. You get music instruments, you get all sorts of electronics, even guitar Center. Even though there's some locations which are still open, they file for bankruptcy in twenty twenty. It's very difficult for these places to survive in this online economy world. I used to love radio Shack. If you work in radio, you probably loved radio Shack at some time. If he needed some headphones or
an adapter, radio Shack was the place to get it. You know what, I can find everything I want not inside of a radio shack. And that's not to disrespect radio shack. It's just our economy has changed. If I need an adapter or something, I probably can get it off Amazon and it'lbeit at my house if not that day, the next day. And the further upside is I don't have to take time out of my day to drive to some physical location to see if they have something. Sometimes they don't,
and then have to drive back or keep running around town. I just get it off Amazon, or if I can wait, eBay. There's some things I still get from eBay. I know, Mark, you probably have some guitar Center stories. Now. I miss going into radio Shack just to get a chord and then having one having to give the cashier all my personal information, all of it. It was amazing how I would spend some much time and money at radio shack for that one of it's usually a Y adapter.
It could have been like a female double female quarter inch going to an eighth inch male or something like that. And it all sounds filthy, by the way, Well that's how they referred to all of it. That's how you knew if it was male or female, or what type of cord you want to you just look, I'm old school, all right, so am I listen. I like a guy in a white short sleeve shirt and a clip on tie telling me what plug I need for something. It's not the same
going on Amazon. I didn't like it how that guy in that short sleeve button down shirt and clip on tie wanted to tell me when I walked in and I said, I know I need this, this is what I do. Just give me what I asked for. Aren't you sure you don't want Just give me what I asked for. I need the Y connector to the eighth inch TRRS core. Okay, just give me that the adapter. Just give it to who's wearing the name tag him or you come on now.
Look, Okay, I didn't tell the whole truth. There's nothing about the truth. Okay. Before I worked here at KFI and I was doing karaoke, trying to keep my you know, radio career, get it off the ground, going through foreclosure. I interviewed at a radio shack and Sam Pedro we've all had side gigs. Mo, no, no, no, no no. I didn't get the job. We've all failed to get side gigs. There's a promo and I remember I sat down in the interview and he looked at me. It's like, dude, you're way too old to be
wanted to work here at radio shack. Oh that's agism. I hope you sued the pants off. He didn't say it, but I could tell the look in his eye he was an agist. I was so angry that I never even got a call back. I could not even get a callback to a freaking job at radio shack. And I swore then I would never shop at radio shack again. It looks like you got your revenge, and I am so petty. I checked up on that store and celebrated when it finally
closed. You look up the guy and do a doughnut on his front line, and I don't remember his name. I just remember that the guy didn't really even pay any attention to me in the interviews. He was distracted, as you can tell when the person has already made the decision that you're not getting the job and you're just wasted an extra fifteen minutes, maybe to just assuage your conscience and make you feel like it was worth the drive when it
really wasn't. Yeah, you're bringing back some memories with that. I don't hope the guy's like homeless or anything right now. I just wanted that radio shack to go out of business, and it did you hope that he reached such a low point that he hanged himself in his garage on one of his damn Radio Shack chords. Wow, you're really more of the dark. I just wanted to store to close. I don't want him to like lose his life or anything, if you say so. But you've got a real vindictive
streak. I'm petty. I'm petty Crocker. Yes, I'm petty Pentograss. I am petty as they can be. If you turn me down when I asked you out on a date, back in sixth grade. I still remember to this day, and I hold it against you. I mount all of my grievances. I bronze them. I put him on the mantle and I look. I was that guy who actually took every letter of rejection from a job that I would get, and I would post him on the wall as
constant reminders. That's just how I am every single job. I don't do it anymore, but I always remember rejection as motivation, kind of like the Travis Bickle of AM talk radio. Aren't you can you give me just a little bit better than Travis, just a little bit better? See he's even complaining about that. You can't please the guy. No you can't. I'm always unsatisfied and dissatisfied. Radio Shack. We were supposed to talk about sam
Ash. The bottom line is the clothes. They've gone out of business. I forgot. I was like, wait, we got drifted out there. All I know is when you are marketing your store right next to Dave and Busters, you're doing something wrong. Right next to David Busters. Right next to David Busters, David Busters is getting free advertisement because you're right next to them. You're not even consequential enough to just say we're there, come see
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