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Weekend Box Office, the IATSE Agreement & The Roots Picnic

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ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the ‘Weekend Box Office’ and a review of ‘A Quiet Place: Day One’…PLUS – Thoughts on the IATSE agreement making way for the use of ‘Artificial Intelligence’ as an industry tool AND a review of ‘Roots Picnic: Hip-Hop is the Love of My Life’ at the Hollywood Bowl - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And there's some good news, some genuine good news for the American box office. Inside Out two has become the first movie of the year to hit one billion dollars in global box office. That means a lot. It's not going to change the direction of the industry, but we hadn't had a bonafide hit here at least in the States, saying nothing of globally, and inside Out

too is passed the billion dollar mark. It was number one in the US box office, the domestic box office once again this week. And I don't know if you can develop any momentum, but when you pull in fifty seven million in your second week, you're doing all right. You're not having that rate of decay that most movies would have. And Twala, you gave the review. You thought it was fantastic. It deserves every dollar's game, every dollar. It was a phenomenal, phenomenal movie, and it is a return

to true form for Pixar. All Right, Well, I had a chance. I'm gonna watch Inside Out one this week and then I'll get a chance to take in Inside Out two. I had a choice between Inside Out two and A Quiet Place Day one. I am a fan of A Quiet Place the series. I don't know has anyone else seen any of the movies? Am I the only one who's seen those movies? The Quiet Place trilogy? Now, I've seen the first two, but the new one that just came out, I didn't see. There was no We were off our schedule last

week because you were gone, So no movie review. All right, Well, I did get to see it since I came back a couple of days ago, I had time to go to the movies, had some legitimate free time. I went to see it. And if you don't know, this is the John Krasinski produced and directed series about these aliens which have come to Earth. And you know me, I love some alien movies. And they're

called like Death Angels and just tear up the place. If you make a sound, if you sneeze, fart, burp, they come kill you. They do. It's the favorite movie of librarians anywhere it is. And that's the only thing I don't understand. The premise is unbelievable because everyone is who can survive this invasion has managed to stay silent. Yeah, the whole premises shut the hell up or die horribly. The first time I start snoring, I die. The first time I get a cold, I die. You

know what I mean. I woke up with just like the sniffles because my allergies were killing me. I'm dead. Yeah. If you got sleep apnea, You're done. It was shocking how quiet like I know, it's called A Quiet Place, but I remember my thing is always popcorn, and you could hear me throughout the entire movie theater when I saw the first one, because I think they said, there's like a total of seventy words that they say in the entire movie. It's the first one. Yeah, yeah,

yeahah yeah. The first one was almost zero dialogue. Thing. This one, which stars Repeta Nyongo is, has more dialogue and I'm I'm not going to give away, but there are some things they let you know. Her character is terminally ill with cancer, and you get to see the beginning of the invasion. I actually recommend watching these incomplete reverse order. Watch this one first because it is day one, then watch the second one of A Quiet

Place, Part two, and then watch the original third. That's the chronological order of the movies and it's probably more enjoyable seeing it in that order. So you think it works that way, because that doesn't work when you do that with Star Wars. It does not, but it works. I was thinking of this actively while watching the movie. I would rather have the movies unfold and you get to be in the dark a little longer, because you get to see the beginning of the invasion in this movie, but you don't

know what happens to society. The very first movie, which is actually now the third in the chronology, picks you up well into the invasion. You have no one of context, You don't have any idea of who these things are, what they are, And I think it takes away from the movie because you're left in the dark almost literally beginning and end of the movie. What about the argument that it kind of takes away from the mystique and the

mystery by knowing everything about the origin, I don't think so. I thought that I would have enjoyed it much more. Of course they weren't writing them in that order, but I would have enjoyed it seeing it in just a chronological progression. Right then, excuse me now, with this one only making a ninety seven million seven hundred some thousand. Is it gonna win? I'd have to well, it did ninety seven million in his first week, so

that's nothing to sneeze at. I just don't know comparatively speaking how well that rates against the other ones. I guess we could look it up real quick, because usually sequels do have a law of diminishing returns. They usually don't do as well as the first of the second movie. I mean, Bad Boys Too is still doing pretty good at number three, so it's still it's still making money. But you know, I don't know. The very first

Acquiet Place grows three hundred and forty one million worldwide. The Acquiet Place Part two grows two hundred and ninety seven million worldwide, to my point, so there's a decay and decline in that, and this probably will not get three hundred million either, So I think it's probably I would recommend watching it in the chronological order. Watch this first, and then watch A Quiet Place Part two in the second position, and then the original Acquired Place is the third

one. Yeah, that was my plan for it. I saw, finally the end scene for A Quiet Place two. I saw how it ends like it's like a five minute thing where you can watch how it ends. I said, oh, okay, this isn't that. These things they look weird, and I see why you're making You're being quiet, so now I can

watch. It's not it's not like murder skit. It's it's But also to mars point, you get to see more of the creature in this the first This the third movie, but it would be the first in the chronological order, and you see the least of it in the original movie. They hide it very well, like Jaws. You don't get to see it. So you said, it made ninety seven million compared to the Kevin Kostner Western, this one hundred million dollar epic western that came out at the same time on

the same day, that made eleven million bucks. And that's impressive. Yeah, it did well. And also it's a it's an r movie. It is very violent, and let me just say this, it's not a perfect movie. It does tug at your heartstrings. There's a cat. Mark just want to warn you. Oh, I don't want to see any cat trauma. There's a cat in a movie. That's all I'm gonna say. All Right, you know that cat meals and that's it. Don't. I don't

want them eating I don't. I don't want them destroyed by alien crab thingies or whatever the hell you call these deals. But there I was looking up on Reddit. There were long discussions of should I watch the movie because there's a cat the trailer. I don't know if I can take it if the cat doesn't make it. I'm not going to tell you whether the cat makes it or not, but there's a cat prominently featured in the movie. Well, they usually make everything better, but not if you have to watch them

be slaughtered. So I just want to put that out there. And I enjoyed it. It wasn't a great movie. It's a real short, but it's like an hour and twenty five minutes. It's really short, really short, and it all happens over the course of maybe three to four hours, if I remember correctly. In how the story's told, I was taking note of that. It's half the length of the Kevin Cosner Horizon movie, probably twice as enjoyable, though we'll see. I want to see them both.

I just haven't had time because I had to work this weekend while you were lounging around. Yes, I was in my underwear. Thanks for the visual. Appreciate that you know you wanted it. I mean, never mind, look at the time six forty we left everyone in the iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we have some union entertainment news to tell you about, and it's connected to artificial intelligence as well. You're listening to Later with Moe

Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And let me just say up front, Mark Ronner is not going to be pleased with this next story. He might even say I told you so. IATZI the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. They've released further details of its contract over this past weekend, and the deal provides that workers may ask their employers for a consultation about aiuse, that a committee will be set up to offer AI skills training, and

that AI use cannot be outsourced to non union labor. Let me put it this way, AI can be used as a tool with relatively few limitations under this agreement struck last week between major studios and the union representing film crews. I call this mission creep, where you're letting AI in the door to perform specific tasks, certain duties, and then incrementally it will start replacing people. Yeah, it's a bad deal all the way around. The thing you must

remember is that most people don't want or need AI. They just don't. And it's being forced on us by people who stand to profit from us from it and to replace good things by artists and other creative types with crap. It's that simple. According to the story, it says that the contract does offer a relatively narrow protection in regard to worker protections, providing that no employee will be forced to input prompts that displace other union workers won't be forced.

But it just means you can and they will. Yeah. A foothold is a footholder, right, right, And you can't undo. Look, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. You can't put the excrement back in never mind, you can't go back. You can't go back. No excrement is an apt comparison. And one of the big wigs from one of the big AI companies was just absolutely roasted the last several days for just saying coldly, you know, some people are going to lose their jobs. That's

just the way it is. Well, it's not, it doesn't have to be. This is being done on purpose by people putting artists and creative types out of work so that they don't have to pay a human being. It is evil. Yeah, this is automation by a different name, in the way that you have hamburger restaurants like McDonald's or Burger King, what have you, and they are not going to hire employees because they would rather not pay the twenty dollars per hour, but they can automate it through kiosks and robotic

burger flippers. This is how the entertainment industry is moving closer and closer to its version of automation. That's right. And the thing that you've got to keep in mind is that they couldn't do any of this stuff without stealing. It relies on plagiarism theft for this stuff to work. The AI. Under the deal, the employers retain the right to bar employees from using AI in their work. Let me read that again, because you didn't catch that.

The employers retain the right to bar employees from using AI in their work. It doesn't mean that they will bar employees from using AI in their work. It is going to seep into every aspect of entertainment being jobs below the line or even jobs in the creative aspect of the field. You know, however inevitable it may or may not be. What I want is labels so that I, as a consumer know what's been generated by AI. So it's my choice if I want to avoid it. Well, here's the thing when you

say labels, and let me go back to Marvel TV show. Marvel had a TV show where they had an AI generated pain of their opening sequence. What was that echo that? But they had human creators managing it. If that makes any sense, there's going to be a blurred line between what is actual, complete, unadulterated human composition and whether AI was also used to help enhance that creation. And when you say you want it labeled, is that a part of the credits? You know? What does that mean? Oh?

I want it labeled right front and center, so that I know going in if this is the thing that was created using AI, because then I will not patronize it. Well, that's something you're asking for, But if it's not delineated in the contract, it's not going to be there. Well, and that's where this doesn't have anything to do with politics, right left or otherwise. To me, it's just a matter of you know, caveat empter. We need. We have the right to know what we're consuming,

whether it's food or entertainment or news or anything. We have a right to know what is in what we're consuming. All right, let me play devil's advocate. You say we have a right to know. I think we should have the right to know. I'm not so sure there is that right to know. I don't know in a constitutional sense where that right lives. I don't know in a legal sense where that right lives. I just know that we're having a conversation about right and wrong, and oftentimes the law does not

side with what is right. Well, yeah, we found that out today many other days. Yeah, these are things we have to fight for because people will get away with exactly right up to the level that they can get away with it when they're stopped. This is just one of those stories. It may seem minor on the surface. You may say aatsis not even a union. I follow, It's not something that I worry about in the grand

scheme of things when I think about an entertainment union going on striking. Not to belittle the union, it's not something which is going to sound as sexy as maybe sag after the DGA, the WGA, what have you. But IATSEI, the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, if anything, is giving you a roadmap as to how AI is going to slowly seep into everything that we do. We've talked about how it's going to possibly replace people in our

business in radio. We've talked about how it's already replaced people in print. We know that it has a foothold in the creative process and television and movies, even though they had a long strike trying to weed that out and make sure that people working in the industry and the creative aspect were protected so they were not complete episodes of TV series and scripts for movies. AI generated to circumnavigate the process of paying people for their creativity. But we're still on that

mission creep to that end. We are moving steadily towards that it's dystopian and I'm against it. Well, I don't know if you can get around it. Though. It's almost like, Okay, you're dropping the bomb on a

populace. It's it's honest downward motion. I don't know if you can stop the momentum at a certain point So that tripa years didn't cure you of this fatalism streak that you've always as no, no, no, no no. If anything, it enhanced it. It reaffirms what I believe, if only because you have a culture, you have a country doing it right and is also reaping the rewards of it. So when people say we can't have high

speed rail, it's like, but I can look over here. We can't have a country without trash, homeless as well, I can look over here and say, no, there are countries to it. We can't have single payer universal health care. No, it is working and it's thriving in practice, and it's a capitalistic society. It's not a communistic society. No, it's all a choice. And you always have to ask the legal question, kuibono, who benefits benefits? And you and me? Well, I don't

believe that we in America. Let me just get on my soapbox for a second. I don't think we are interested in investing in people, investing in education, and investing in infrastructure. If we actually did those three things, it'd be a lot better place. How can you have a country which doesn't invest in healthcare? Spoken like a pinko but just say, look, we're for the most part, everyone in America is one diagnosis away from bankruptcy.

Oh yeah, and four hundred bucks emergency expenditure regardless. Yeah, most people don't know. Just going to the hospital in an ambulance thousands of dollars thousands, it's insane. And I should remind you, which you probably already know, that the United States is the only country in the rich world that doesn't have that. Somehow we're the only one. And that's not American exceptionally. Oh you beat me to my favorite phrase. Yeah, yeah, you beat

me there. And just because America is great of itself, it does not mean that it does everything well. And until we start investing in people, we will suffer all the things that we complained about on a daily basis, be it homelessness, be it healthcare, be it these fights about education. No, we're not fighting about education. We're fighting the culture war of education.

And there's not the same thing. We don't value education like other countries around the world, and you know, we're reaping the benefit of it. Quote unquote. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty to Wallace Sharp, producer of Later with Mo Kelly and also hosts of Soul Colt Saturday. It came across his social media feed and he was streaming some video from a concert he attended over the weekend at the Hollywood Bowl.

And we had talked about this in the months leading up to it, how he was going to see the Roots Picnic twenty four the Hollywood Bowl. Some of the legends of hip hop were performing, from Diggable Plans to Queen Latifah to the Jungle Brothers. I can't remember Black Sheep. How many people were attending, but Twola give you a review of that concert. One of the most spectacular shows I have seen, hands down, the entire experience.

I mean, look, first of all, if you are going to the Hollywood Bowl, let me tell you take an uber because that new uber lotzi where they drop you off right across the street and you just walk underneath the tunnel and come up. That's the way to go parking driving forget that them establishing that uber lot life saving. We get there and it is such a blended mixed crowd, black, white, Asian, other everyone is grown. There are no at this concert except for I brought my son, and when

he walked, he was like, what are we gonna go? See this number of old people here? You know, all a lot of gray, a lot of gray in that crowd. But you could tell that this was an adult concert. No, no sagging pants. Everyone was dressed like adults, and you could the vibe was different because security. There was no winding there, there was no policing state. They were just walking people through. Okay, no, I was about to take my stuff off my pockets. No, no, no, no, you're good. It'll be if you

have anything heavy going through. One of the best. I'm telling you, The Roots give hands down one of the best shows ever. And I've had the Roots on a couple different shows. I've produced a concerts similar to this back in the day. But when you see the Roots and how they do it, it's special. I mean, Black Thought comes on and he does ten minutes straight, just off the top, off the top, just going. And the way they did this show is it's not a concert where it's

one act then the other act than the other act. No, it is we're bringing out the younger brothers. They come out and do a song, then they're gonna bring out Common. Common's gonna come out and do a song. Queen Latifa came out, and Queen Latifa brought a bevy of female mcs from Yo Yo MC Light Money Love was on stage, Lady of Rage and and that was an entire festival. But everyone's doing one or two songs and they was all mixed together, so you never got listening to DJ. Yeah,

basically it was it was like the Roots were the DJ. But what made this show so special is you have all of these acts. I'm talking everyone from from the Far Side to the Diggable Planets again, Common doing all of his stuff, Queen Latifa, the Roots were playing all of this music live. There was no track performances, every single thing, every instrument,

every horn, Oh my god, two hours straight. There was like a five minute intermission where they let some DJ's cut up and they came right back and just went back into it. For people don't know, Questlove was the music director for Jimmy Fallon. Yes, the Roots are the band for the man. So if you if you're not familiar with the Roots, but I'm telling you the crowd. I went there thinking to myself, Okay, what is this crowd going to look like? And you can tell everyone there,

everyone there knows and loves this group. And you're talking people again. Thirty five to sixty. I went, I took my son, My brother went, he took his daughter, my mother went, she went with a friend, and we all came back saying this show was amazing. That's that's inspiring, if only because for certain especially when we talk about hip hop concerts, I know that attendees usually get treated a certain way. Yeah, and I was wondering if we were going to be treated a certain way at that concert.

No, no, no, no. It was such a welcoming vibe. It was almost as if the Roots said, hey, everyone here is coming. This is basically a family event. And when they simp to that, that's what they kept saying. This is the show is it's the Roots Picnic, but it's at the sub line is hip hop the love of my

life. And every time someone stepped on stage, they kept talking about family, they kept talking about generation, they kept talking about this show being something for everyone, and this is what hip hop at fifty years old is all about, about bringing multiple people together, multiple cultures together to all vibe to the same music. It's also interesting you mentioned the parking and how with the Uber drop off it makes it so much better. That was the only thing

that I never liked about the Hollywood Bowl. The venue itself always loved it. There's nothing better than the Hollywood Bowl for a summer night. Oh, there's not a bad seat in the house. And if you have a good crowd as well, it makes the concert even better. There's a call and response. The whole crowd, I assume was dancing all night long. Oh, I don't know if we sat down the entire night where everyone is standing up screaming, you know, and it was winter rest to me, is

all those venerable groups there. The group that got the most love, hands down, across the board was Arrested Development and Arrested Development. Their show was amazing. See I only knew like two songs of look mister Wendell and Tennessee. They did Mister Window Tennessee and people were singing along the entire time, the entire time. That was one of those groups I thought was going to

have a longer radio career. They still had an underground career. They were still releasing music, but they were coming out at a time in which conscious hip hop meant something and when It was also a radio airplay when when they did Mister Window, I was telling my son, I said, this is the first group talk about homelessness song talking about homelessness and talking about caring for

people. It was amazing. And you know he's like, he's like, I don't know any of these groups, but everyone here is so hyped. This is amazing. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And before we get out of here, just gotta let you know. Fourth of July, we'll have our annual live broadcasts from Chateau l' mo my house. We'll be having a studio audience of sorts. There'll be a dessert bake off and presentation contest. If you follow me on social

media you've seen the videos from before. Just confirmed Neil Savedra, the Fork reporter, will be the judge of the event and in attendance, there may be some other can't I personalities floating through. Honestly, don't know, you know who, who knows who may show up. Mark Ronner, he probably won't show up, but we tried. DBA. Okay, all right, I hope I'll keep hope alive. I don't know what's going on with Stephan. He may have to work here. I don't know how that's gonna work.

Yeah, probably I have to be here. Okay, well we can always we can find someone else, all right, can't we We could try it. Okay, We're just gonna put out those good vibes. Okay, but that's coming up on Thursday, and we will narrate the baking contest as it happens. Is this is your third year entering. Uh you know what, I was actually not going to enter until I found that that you had

esteemed impartial judge, the impartial savage or judging. Yes, no, he said if what he said to me, he said, if your dessert is trash, I will slap you so hard your mother will fill it something some something to that nature. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he said. He said he's coming. So I and by request, I am bringing uh my cobbler cake. So I'm bringing that because Cayler's like, dude, you gotta bring it, just to bring it. So I'm gonna bring some of that. But I am coming with a new entry, a new thing.

I'm trying it. Uh So right after right after Wednesday show, I'm rushing home so I can get to bacon, because this is the one that you got to bacon and you got to chill for a long while. Yeah, the word has gotten out. There might be a lot of entrance this year. Oh yeah, I hope, man, I really really really really really hope that Nick comes. I hope that Nick Nick comes. That'll be fun. Entered last year and said he's going to enter this year. I just

haven't heard from him yet. Give me the final confirmation. A lot of Look, a lot of folks are are scared. You know, the champ. You know, he he he's something to be wrecked with. He he is a beast when it comes to kitchen work. Uh no denying his his dishes are delicious. And I know I talk a lot of trash about the competition being rigged, but you know, I'm also not a good sport when it comes to losing, so you know, but no, his dishes are

phenomenal. Uh far be it from me to say that his daughter was rigging the votes when she voted for her dad. I'm not going and counted the votes. That's neither Here another bolt stuff. The second time I entered, who one? If he went again? Yeah, he wanted to win again. Family members were all in attendance, and we're really back in him. He beat my sister too. Yeah, no, no, he did, he did. But you can tell he is the favorite cousin. Everyone else

him. He's the favorite uncle, favorite cousin. Okay, it's all good, it's all good. I'm not hating on his dish. I think he did an avocado. I don't know he or something he did. I was like, all right, okay, So this year, I'm coming with heat and four reporters judging. So that's why I'm entering. So we'll be live streaming Instagram live, and no doubt you'll be able to see everything as well as hear it here on KFI AM six forty. Tradition is they'll come over

to my house. We'll all watch the fireworks together and do the live broadcast. We run up and down the hill. There's a there's a hill from my house which leads up to a park in the development where you can see the fireworks in a three hundred and sixty degree patoramic view. All the fireworks shows in southern California, all of them, Yeah, and they're all happening at once. And you can see them basically unobstructed. It's a good time.

It's the best time. It is the best on litter. It's like, now I want to ask my kids, like, so you guys wanna roll me to chateau? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. The first year, they're kind of apprehensives, like I don't know, I don't know. You're gonna be on the phone. Yeah, man, No, after they go, they're like, yes, the food, the food is delicious. You guys put out those spread man. Yeah, I think we're gonna have it

catered by Bloodsots again. But yes, you be there early. Yeah, yeah, you better be there early because we have to prepare for the show as well. And that's kind of thing. It is kind of a work day for us where we're playing around, but we want to make sure we give you the best show possible visually and also in a phonic sense. So we're trying to get Mark Runner out there, We're trying to get Stephan out

there. We'll see are you gonna be drinking throughout the evening? So it resembles like an old match game episode where you can kind of tell people have been getting loaded throughout the day of taping. Actually I do not. I do not drink before I go on the air. It's just something I will not do, in part because people have been fired for that. Number one. Oh no, I believe in the law. Let's be clear. And that's something. And that's something like I just I never want to get that

comfortable. Now, after the show, it's on and cracking. But before the show, no, no, I don't. All right, so crack after the show. No, on and cracking does not mean crack. Okay, thanks for the clarification. On and cracking like it's on like donkey Kong, all right, still TBA then what But it's fun to hear other people getting like kind of oh, you're in the back, okay. Can I tell the story about about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

I love stories about staff who get inappropriately drunken company events, please please. All I can say is there was a person there who's a producer. I won't use a person's thing, who was very much lubricated in a in a in a beverage sort of way, very fancy free yeah, And and got on the mic, and it was evident. It was evident. When you go back and listen to the show, you'll know who it is, and it may happen again this year. It's like but, but it won't

be me. It won't be me. Now. If you were to give me a call at at ten fifteen, it would be me as soon as it shows over. I don't have to drive anywhere. I'm home. Fifteen minutes is fast work. Oh. It seeming to get old like me. It doesn't take much. I don't have any alcohol tolerance anymore. OKAYO, I can just down one, you know, like jack double shot. I'm there. Wow, cheap date, cheap date. I know I'm easy to We all need that. Okay, July fourth is coming up. What are

your plans? I'm planning to exploit my fingers off. Don't do it all right, playing America's favorite guessing game, firecracker or gunshot. I'm gonna eat dogs. No, not you do. There's aliens behind my house. Oh, unrelated barbecue safely? Okay, fireworks safely. I'll have a safe and happy for it ks. I'm kost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County lives everywhere on the

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