Mister bo Keller here KF I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. It was seventeen years ago. Seventeen years ago, John McLean and a young hacker, they joined forces to take down some master cyber terrorists Thomas Gabriel played by Timothy Oliphant. Remember that Live Free or Die Hard? The movie was seventeen years ago. Sometimes they say that art is imitating life, or art proceeds what happens in life. And I'm not saying today we
suffered a terrorist attack. I am saying that if they wanted to do something like that, it doesn't seem it'll be too hard. All you need to do is infect every Windows computer and you will shut down the world. And what's worse, Yes, I'm talking about the outage today, which had repercussions all around the world. The strange thing for me is the call came from inside the house. It wasn't a hacker, it wasn't a terrorist. It
was Microsoft's own security firm. And as far as I know, it had to do with some software patch update something something something YadA YadA, YadA, blah blah blah, and all hell started to break loose. We're talking about nine to one one services. We're talking about airports, flights were grounded, We're talking about sodom and gomorrah, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria. Everything went to hell in a hand basket thanks to Microsoft's in how security
system. And it got me thinking, is this thin veneer of civilization that thin? Is it that easy? And when I say easy, we're only talking about a software patch update. We're not talking about some major brute force attack on our grid. Going back to Live Free, Diehard? Is it that simple? Is it that precarious where the whole system could come crashing down
if one thing, one domino fell? And I was never a believer in Y two K, but after to after today, it makes me rethink about how precarious a time in which we live, since we're so dependent on technology. It even affected us here. We had computers here at iHeartMedia. We're
not going to work at all due to the dreaded Microsoft outage. Now I've never been a Microsoft fan for reasons just like today, but because Microsoft is everywhere, it's almost impossible to avoid it in a personal or professional sense. The computers here Microsoft, there's certain software which is only Microsoft. Now. You may love or hate Bill Gates, but he was smart enough to know that if he could get in early on the computer revolution and making sure that
businesses would have to have PCs, they would be everywhere. And this is the end result of that. And I was thinking about how much disruption we were dealing with. And I'm not saying that I believe or disbelieve everything which is presented to us. I don't believe that there was actually a terrorist. I'm not saying that I believe that there was some sort of outside influence. I don't believe that we were attacked. But I don't necessarily believe that we
get all the information, especially when you're talking about vulnerabilities. I'm not gonna tell us everything. They're not gonna tell us to what degree that we were exposed. We're not gonna be told exactly how much damage was actually done. But a reasonable person, I would like to think of myself as a reasonable person. A reasonable person could look at today and be very very concerned about
our infrastructure. A reasonable person when you look at what has been happening in Texas just because of Hurricane Beryl, and how that grid is still having problems. When you think about what happened today with airline travel, not just here but around the world. We're talking about a global tech outage because one little thing didn't go right, one little thing, And you think, well, what happens if someone had bad intentions? What happens if someone looks at this
as not only an opportunity but something to follow up on. Now I know the conspiracy theorist will say, oh, we had a dry run today just to see how much have it they could wreak. Hey, oh maybe maybe who knows? Who knows? But I do know that a lot happened today, that nobody was prepared for. A lot happened today, that nobody as of yet can give an adequate explanation for. If I told you that I bricked my computer because I just turned it on today, you would say,
well, it shouldn't happen that way. You probably say, MO, there's something missing from that equation. MO, there's something else that we must not know. For you to just turn on a computer and it brick itself and you don't know that means to brick it means that it is unusable. The
nation basically bricked itself. That's my point. The nation came to a standstill in a technological sense, from airports from nine to one point one to all sorts of services and businesses because of something supposedly seemingly minor but had major implications. Will we get all the information? Probably not. I don't know, because you can't tell exactly the world how you were vulnerable, to what degree
you were vulnerable, how much damage was incurred because of that vulnerability. Cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike said that the issue believed to be behind the adage was not a security incident or cyber attack. Oh that makes me feel better, But here's what really bothered me. They said a fix was on the way. What do you mean on the way? What does that mean? You know, when I tell you know how a friend tells you, it's like, hey, are you on your way? Yeah? And you know what that means.
They're not on their way. If they say what are you gonna get here five minutes? That means thirty five? Where are you just around the corner? No, that means miles and miles away. So when I read that CrowdStrike is saying a fix was on the way, that means it's not exactly on the way. The company said the problem occurred when it deployed a
faulty update to computers running Microsoft Windows. Was just about means every computer in every company, with exception of maybe advertising where they use only Mac and Tosh. The company's president and chief executive George Kurtz, posted a message where on X because that's what we do, saying the issue was not a cyber attack and has been fixed. Well, if it's been fixed, and why is there a fix on the way, which is it? Which is it?
Because I look at some of the computers here, Twala, They're not back to normal, are they? I don't think there are, So that means it has not been fixed. The fix that is on the way has not arrived. It's just around the corner. You know, they are only fifteen minutes away. I'm just somewhat cynical. There were reports that airports had been beginning to start the service, but it was unclear when we would get back to normal. Yes, flights have resumed, but no, we are not
back to normal. He also added that the company system was completely shut down, saying the resulting crippling of flight operations was worse than nine to eleven. Did you hear that worse than nine to eleven. Maybe you're not old enough to remember nine to eleven. I am. I remember how the whole world had come to a stop. Yes, we were more focused on the terrorism
aspect, but the disruption was also very significant. And if it was worse than nine to eleven, there is a parallel as far as why we should be so very concerned. Yeah, I'm being a little bit flipping, but I'm also being very serious. Because of a faulty patch as it's being described, I don't know that's what it is. That's what we're told it is. All this made him all this disruption because of a faulty patch, and a fix was on the way, And it may be there where you are,
it may be to most places. Planes are now flying, so yes, it is getting out there, but it's not everywhere. We're not back to normal yet. And if someone with bad intentions was really paying attention, and they are and they are, don't be surprised if you should see this or something similar to it again in the future. How many times have we seen airport disruptions because of software issues? Air quotes, be it Southwest Airlines
or Los Angeles International airport or some other airport. How many times are we dealing with software issues, not terrorism, software issues. We are primed to have our infrastructure attacked, and it doesn't seem like doesn't seem like we're ready at all. It's Later with mo Kelly caf I AM six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we have to have a quick update on the Democrats, on the Republicans, the state of the presidential race, and what the Democrats plan to do with President Joe Biden and what President Joe Biden plans to do with himself. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I got to tell you Democrats of not having a real good month of July, not at all. But
it's not insurmountable. Nothing is forever. What has been happening is not determinative, as I say, it's influential. It could have a great impact on how this presidential election and also down ballot races may turn out. But it's momentum, it's not an outcome. And I talk to people all the times like there are other times in history where one party has been really behind in
the presidential race and then come back and win. We can look at nineteen sixty eight where we had Hubert humph He was up by I want to least say five or six points in July, right before the election. He had I would say, the political benefit. Let me be clear, I'm not saying it was a benefit, but I'm saying he had the win. That is back from an emotional standpoint because of the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy
and Martin Luther King Junior. Those two incidents propelled the Democrats into the convention, and they were leading in the polls, had public sentiment and public sympathy. Hubert Humphrey ended up losing by more than one hundred and ten Electoral College votes. You can talk about how Barack Obama was trailing in twenty twelve by I want to say, five or six points in October, still ended up
winning the election. We can talk about any number of elections. We had Hillary Clinton who was leading by double digits and then she and double digits around right about now in July of twenty sixteen and then ended up losing that election. All sorts of examples of what you see and what you feel in July doesn't mean that the election itself is going to turn out a certain way.
But the Democrats are panicked. They are running around with the heads cut off like the proverbial chicken, because they're reading the tea leaves and they see that if what is happening today were to hold, Donald Trump would be elected president once again. And they see with the numbers regarding Joe Biden, if he were to continue to be the nominee, that most likely he loses. The state data and the battleground states, the national polls all point to Donald Trump
likely winning. And it's one of those things where, well, we're not going to see a better Joe Biden, or at least most people don't believe that a better Joe Biden between now an election. And it's not just me saying that. Some thirty Democrats have come forward and said publicly. When I said publicly, we're not even talking about the people who are behind the whisper campaigns privately, I'm just talking about publicly come forward and said they want Joe
Biden to step aside. Now step down the step aside and have the party dominate someone else. And I've said this before, so I need to remind folks it's it's not that simple. It's not that simple, because you risk
alienating the Democratic base. There are some fourteen million people who voted for Joe Biden during the primaries who affirmatively said they want Joe to be the nominee for better for worse, they chose him, and also by choosing him, they were choosing Kamala Harris because they were voting on the ticket to remain as a vice presidential candidate. And if you were to remove Joe Biden, you would
be saying to the Democratic voters your votes during the primaries didn't matter. And then the party elites, quote unquote, the influencers, the people who have a lot of pool from Nancy Pelosi to Haakim Jeffries to Barack Obama, maybe even Hillary and Bill Clinton. You're saying that the small group of people are wielding undue influence and you could switch out a nominee because they're afraid that the
person that people voted for can't win. And that may be true, it may be true that Joe Biden can't win at this point, but you can't then say, well, we're just going to disregard the primaries and just choose someone else at the convention. I mean you could, you could, the party bylaws allow for that, but the consequences of that means that you most likely would piss off the Democratic coalition in such a way where they revolt against
the party or they stay home or both. There's a question of do you have someone leap frog over Kamala Harris, because remember she's a sitting vice president and the understanding is if the president can't continue for whatever reasons, America had
chosen Kamala Harris's vice president to succeed the sitting president. And if you within Democratic circles voted for Joe Biden Kamala Harris and you see them leapfrog someone over Kamala Harris and you don't have her become the nominee again, all hell breaks loose in the coalition fractures. Or you could look at it another way. If you have Joe Biden step aside and then put his thumb on the scale and say I want Kamala Harris to succeed me and she didn't go through the
primary process at the top of the ticket. That's going to leave Democratic voters in as they say, feel in some kind of way. And then there's the money aspect of all this. We're not sure how it plays out, but we're pretty sure that the one hundred and twenty seven million dollars DOUS was donated to the Biden Harris campaign is only available to a ticket which has either
Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or both. And if you remove Joe and you remove Kamala Harris, then that one hundred and twenty seven million dollars reverts back to the donors and it may not come back. And we can't win elections in America, regardless of your political stripes without money. Thank you, Citizens United, No money, no election. So that's what the Democrats are dealing
with. And I talked about this last week and I was kidding Mark Ronner because I called it the Kobayashi Maru, which is a Star Trek reference, of course, and that's the no win scenario. And for me, that's the only way I can describe it, because the Democrats are having to choose between the best of bad options. I say bad options because you never want to change your candidate at the last second. That's never a great idea. And if let's say you want to change the candidate for gret You Whitman.
I'm talking about names have been bandied about a Gretcha Whitmer or a Gavin Newsom. Those people do not have the national name recognition or the backing that the Biden Harris campaign does. You would be starting over in literally August for a November election. That is a bad option. We can argue that Joe Biden continuing as the candidate, the presidential candidate, would be a bad option given what the polling says. And we don't know about his health status. He's
been diagnosed with COVID, Well, what does that mean? Does he have long COVID? Does that keep him off the campaign trail for three weeks? Does it keep him off the campaign trail for four weeks? If you've ever had COVID or long COVID, it can stick with you for months. And also it can be much much more severe for someone who's over the age of eighty. That's just the name of being older. The simple even a simple
cold, can do all sorts of damage to an elderly person. These are all options, all of them suboptimal, and the Democrats have to choose the best available option. For a situation which it doesn't only impact the president and vice president. We're talking about down ballot races. This could impact whether they have any chance of retaking the House. This could impact whether they lose the Senate. In a worst case scenario, the Democrats could lose the Oval Office,
not get back the House, and lose the Senate. And for all the talk about Project twenty twenty five and all the talk about what Donald Trump would do in a second term, well if the Democrats lose out on everything, they would be completely incapable of mounting any type of defense on any Republican or Donald Trump agenda. The things that the Democrats are worried about they have
to concern themselves with. And also even if they Donald Trump, if you were to be re elected and were to put forth some executive action or executive decision that some way find unconstitutional, well they can run it up the ladder to a Supreme Court, which is going to rubber step anything. He says. These are the considerations that the Democrats are going to have to make.
And I don't know what they're going to do. I heard all the public reports just like you have, that Joe Biden may step aside this weekend. I don't know that that is going to happen. We can talk about the negative momentum which is being generated against him, where more and more politicians have come out and said he needs to step aside. We can talk about the published reports about how supposedly his family is sitting with Joe right now trying to
decide about how they will move forward and gracefully bow out. I don't know if any of that's true. It may be just wishful thinking. And if you've been around politics long enough, you know that certain things are put in the press to put pressure on someone in the hopes that they'll do something, not a report of what they're actually intending to do. This is all what
the Democrats are dealing with this weekend. We'll have some more clarity next week, but don't be surprised that President Joe Biden does not get out of the race. For a number of reasons. They're just bad options and the Democrats will have to make a decision. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI A six forty. Let's go to the beach, or maybe
we shouldn't go to the beach. You know, we've been detailing how absolutely putrid our beaches have been, and now there is more evidence to quantify just how dirty La County beaches are. Specifically, in fact, two La County
beaches are among the most polluted in all of California. And that means we need to find out who else is on the list of the most polluted beaches here in California or close to California coming in at number ten of the most polluted beaches as part of Heal the Bay's list, and Heal the Bay monitors more than six hundred beaches along the West coast coming in at number ten,
and it's not actually California, but close enough. Alfaro, Baja Mexico, number nine, Marina del Rey Mother's Beach, which is in La County, Yes, of the most polluted beaches along the West coast California, coming in at number eight. Field State Park and that's in San Diego County. San Diego checking in number seven of the most polluted beaches here in California. Hey, San Diego County. Back to back, Imperial Beach at Seacoast Drive coming
in at number six, Lake Shore Park in San Mateo County. All right, number five. Linna mar Beach, San Mateo County, back to back number four. Never heard of this beach, probably pronouncing it wrong. Tijuana Slough sloth Sluff, San Diego County, coming in at number three of the most polluted beaches here in California. Oh, this one is very close to my heart. Santa Monica Pier, La County, Santa Monica Pier is a
great place to go shopping, great place to go walking. Not so sure I would ever go into water for anything in Santa Monica Pier coming in at number two. Playa Blanca in Baja Mehico White Beach, That's what it means. And coming in at number one of the most polluted beaches here in California. Just in case you wanted to get into the water this weekend, because as Mark Ronner said, it's gonna be hat ha ha, And I know you might be thinking about it. Why do I just go ahead and saunter
into the water. No, you don't want to do that, especially not at the number one most polluted beach here in California. Tiawater river Mouth in San Diego County. I can say that I haven't been to just about any of these beaches on the beach. I've been to the Santa Monica Pier, I've been to Marina del Rey Mother's beach, But no, I haven't actually been in the water. Elma, What was the last time you were actually
in the water at the beach? Actually, I've been avoiding it because last time I was at work here there was a story about the water being dirty. Yes, we probably did it. Yeah, so like the last two times I've been to the beach, I've avoided the water because of that. But that was this summer. But what about previous summers? Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not a strong swimmer, So I'm not going to jump
in the water. Oh not even from the Dominican Republic. I can get in, but like after the waste, you know, like chess, I'm not going to go further. Did you ever have formal swimming lessons? I did not. Okay, let me recommend you hang out with Mark Ronner. He's a lifeguard. He could probably help you out or try to save your ass when you start drowning, one of the two. So I'll take that off. I'm here to help. Yes, have you taught anyone how to
swim? Mark seriously. No, Well, no, I was. I spent a couple summers as a child swim team coach while I was in college. Okay, when I was a lifeguard, but that really doesn't count. It was more like daycare and arguing with karen parents. Yeah, I've never taught anyone how to swim, but I just remember from taking swimming lessons. It's a difficult thing to do with any kid over the age of maybe seven or eight, it is. And I gotta tell you, I don't even
like swimming. I like the exercise, but swimming you can't feel yourself sweat, you breathe hard, you start to swallow water. I hate swimming. See, I don't just like swimming. In fact, I like it from a rehab standpoint for injuries. Yeah, definitely some advantage, especially when you're old men like we are and all your joints have been destroyed from sports over the years. Yes, swimming is very helpful in some things. But you know, add in the fact that you're going to be dodging pooh in the
water here, I just can't recommend. No, no, no, I'm not talking like a public pool or a public beach. I'm talking about it like a swimming pool in my backyard. That's what I would want. I would like to be able to just work out in a pool. Swim some swim, some laps, do some side stroke, backstroke, deep stretching in the pool, which is always good on the body. That's all I would want. Yeah, I've been a lifeguard at a big a pool in the
terrible part of town where I had to take knives away from kids. And I've been a lifeguard at a pool in the nice part of town where again the Karens and not sure which one I like better. Say, See, I can't work a job if I don't have a gun and I have to take knives and stuff from people. I mean, otherwise, like a school teacher, they have to do it. But you know, you know, if you're in the moment and you're hardwired, with enough training, you're not
going to be that concerned about a knife with a kid. No, no, no, it's not about being concerned. I'm just saying, it's just one of those things where like put it this way, I confident I can deal with a knife. I don't want to deal with it at my job. That's all I'm saying. So you're saying I shouldn't draw down on you here. I would hope that any job I go to, it should not
be a reasonable expectation that I may be confronted with a knife. Well, times have changed since I was a lifeguard, because I'd probably be dealing with guns. Now you're be dealing with guns. Most definitely. That's why I try to leave people alone. You never know how bad a day someone is having. You don't know how stupid someone is. You don't know how desperate someone is, You don't know how poor judgment someone may have. And for
you, you would never think of taking it there. They're just an idiot and looking for a reason to take it there. Oh, and the stakes are so much higher on pretty much every interaction slash conflict you have. Like if I were to yell at a kid now, hey, you know, cut out the jumping up and down on the diving board. Yeah, you don't know if they'd come up behind you later and be like what do you say to me? Right? Because everything is a confrontation. Yeah, everything
is a confrontation. And for as much as I like verbal confrontations, I'm not seeking out actual confrontation. And sometimes life just puts it in front of you and you have to deal with it. That's fine, whatever, But it shouldn't be a confrontation when I'm at Target. It shouldn't be a confrontation when I'm at the girlcery store. It should be a confrontation. When I'm trying to back into a parking space. Everything is a confrontation now. Everything
is up to a ten. Now. If we could just kind of take it back to like a five or six, that'd be great. But I don't know how we're going to do that. I don't know. See, that's the thing. I don't know. It's almost it's like after you lose that innocence, I don't know how you work your way back to it. Because we have generations of people or young people who've grown up believing that that is normal, and I don't know how you get away from that. Well.
One way is that we have a country that's absolutely flooded in devices that allow people act on their impulses immediately and irrevocably. And if you were to regulate that a little bit more than we have, you wouldn't have to worry about, you know, getting shot when you so much as looked at somebody The wrong way or gave them the finger on the road. I'm wondering to whom you're referring. So, in other words, take everyone's phone away and
kill the internet. Just just stay indoors, don't go anywhere, don't do anything, just listen to the radio. Kind of like what you do. You stay indoors and go anywhere and you're on the radio. Yeah, yeah, like a hobbit. That's I just stay in my hole. KFI AM six forty we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And speaking of the violence that we see in everyday community, let's tell you about a deadly samurai sword attack. You know, just another day in southern California. You're listening to
Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I'm not making light of this. I think it highlights the degree of violence here in California, Southern California. But when I look at the headline and it says that a domestic dispute in southern California ends in deadly samurai sword attack, I just kind of nod my head and say, yeah, that pretty much makes sense.
This does look like some sort of an argument between three female family members, but at this point what caused it to turn violence suddenly we don't know, but the fact that the two survivors only speak Mandarin Chinese is slowing the investigation. A woman walks along Huntington Avenue here in San Dimas with a sword in her hand. Her legs appear to be cut, a trail of blood
behind her on the sidewalk. Sheriff's deputies, then, responding to what they think is a rescue call, roll up on the woman near a rental van
in the street and tell her to drop the sword. That female then directs them to a residence on the street, where the deputies find an additional female suffering also from lacerations, who was later pronounced dead at the scene, and as they continue through the residence, an additional female was found in the residence, unharmed, who was also transferred to a local hospital due to a medical
emergency. We understand that that may have been a heart attack, but what prompted this deadly struggle between at least two of what police are describing as Chinese women is unknown. Preliminary investigations suggests there may be a family relation, but again, because of the language barrier, we have not confirmed. That a little bit uneasy because I don't know what's going on. Local residents who were kept from returning to their homes near the crime scene are understandably shaken, shocked,
surprised. So, yes, it doesn't happen in this neighborhood. I mean you see it in the in the news and other places, but just shocked it happened so close. No one else was wounded by the sword, and detectives say there is no further threat to this local community. Okay, you often hear that, you know, shocked. I can't believe that this happened in this neighborhood. Is a quite nice, quiet neighborhood. YadA yah yah blah blah blah uh until it's not. My thing that stood out to
me is never in any community has there been a samurai sword attack. That's not something that happens any When you say I can't believe that happened in my community, like this happened somewhere else, Yeah, I know, Like, yeah, I expect this to happen in South Central like they just walk around with samurai swords all in the hood. What is being said here? Look, when you want to deliver a personal message, then you would use a
samurai sword. You know, that's real, real personal. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. You have a Samurai sword and there's family involved. Yeah, this sounds real ill, real personal. I'm not going to speculate on the who, what, why, where, when, and how what led up to it? Who's at fault? But look, if you're reaching for a samurai sword, there's anger behind that. It's not like it's not like a weapon of opportunity that was you went for that. That's
like the family sword. Yeah, you know, like it's in the house, it's prominently displayed, probably up on the mantle. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you didn't go for a kitchen knife. You didn't go for a state knife. You went for a samurai sword because you're trying to maim and disfigure, which is real, real personal nature. Or at least that's the
way I anticipated. That's the only way I could read it. Yeah, because look, if I were to, if I wanted to hurt someone in that way, it's almost like, when we get the story, I know it's going to have to be somebody's man is in that some more relationship, Someone cheated on somebody with a family member. It has to be something that's real personal. See. I took it as maybe fighting over inheritance and someone went to go get grandfather's sword and I'll show you. Oh you think it's
money. Oh, I think it's a relationship. Hmmm, Mark, what do you think money? Relationship or something else? I think you guys have watched too many cop shows on TV. Hey, audible is real. My late friend Andrew Vax, the crime writer, used to refer to Law and Order SVU as a sitcom. No, they're not real. I thought they were based on like ripped from the headlines. Okay, but this is real.
The samurai sword is real. The violence was real. It is, but I think it's turned a lot of home viewers with no credentials or expertise into like armchair. Oh it was a bladed. It was a knife, So this means it was something personal because you have to be up close to the person, you have to make eye contacts. Well, that's what you do. The bladed you can't kill with. The samurai saw it from across
the room. They didn't throw it. Yeah, we don't know. I'd like to find out more about it, but as far as i'm concerned. It's a mishone in the Walking Dead thing. Oh but we're making fun of that. Oh it's us. It us is watching too much Law Order SVU as you and the Walking Day. That's exactly right. If you stick to
the zombie shows, that'll answer all your questions. Got it, CA If I Am six forty were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app, it's hard to keep track of everything that's going on. Luckily, that's a little hobby of ours. K S I KOs T HD two Los Angeles, Orange County Live everywhere on the radio.