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“Space Shuttle ‘Challenger’ 39th Commemoration” & Nuclear Incident Drills

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ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth conversation with Author, Inspirational Speaker Carl S. McNair regarding the “Space Shuttle ‘Challenger’ 39th Commemoration” and continuing the legacy of younger brother, Astronaut Ronald E. McNair, who perished on ‘Challenger STS-51l’…PLUS – A look at the New York FBI “nuclear incident drill” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1

Oho winmo Kelly KFI AM six forty y is later with Moe Kelly were Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app In nineteen seventy eight, doctor Ronald McNair was selected as one of thirty five applicants from a pool of ten thousand for the NASA Astronaut Program. McNair flew as a mission specialist on STS forty one B, a board Space Shuttle Challenger, back on February third through February eleventh, nineteen eighty four, becoming the second African American to fly in space.

But on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, thirty nine years ago. Today, McNair Paris is part of the Challenger crew.

Speaker 2

Nine ers ken nine eight seven six. We have main engines start four three two one and liftoff liftoff of the twenty fifth Face Shuttle.

Speaker 3

Mission and it as clear as the.

Speaker 4

Tower Roger Challenger.

Speaker 5

ConTroll program confirmed. Challenger now heading down range engines beginning throttling down now at ninety four percent normal throttles for most of the plant one hundred and four percent. We will throttle down to sixty five percent shortly one minute fifteen seconds. Flocidy twenty nine hundred feet per second altitude nine nautical mouths down range, just at seven naugle miles.

Speaker 3

It looks like a couple of the solid rocket boosters blew away from the side of the shuttle in an explosion.

Speaker 5

Controllers here looking very carefully at the situation. Obviously a major malfunction.

Speaker 1

Have no downey right now. His older brother, Carl McNair, founder of McNair Achievement Programs, author and STEM education consultant, joins me now on the show as we pay remembrance to him and the rest of the Challenger crew. Carl, my friend. Great to talk to you again. How have you been.

Speaker 4

Oh, I'm doing very well. Brother Mo. Did I call you brother Moe?

Speaker 1

Yes, you can't because we are brothers, that's right. Aside from your brother, your younger brother's exploits, his academic exploits, which included a PhD in physics from MIT. Ronald McNair was a saxophonist, a jazz enthusiast. He was a man of Omega Sci Fi fraternity like you and me. He was a fifth degree black belt in karate. When I was a young teenager, I wanted to be Ronald McNair. But who was your brother beyond what most often is publicly shared.

Speaker 6

Well, Ron was like any of So many people think he was like a bookworm, but Ron was. As we were growing up, he was on the football team and the baseball team, ran track and just like any other kid. But he had a satiable theft for knowledge. That was Ron in the nutshell.

Speaker 1

When he was doing his thing being a baseball diamond or track field or any of his other exploits, did you see something in him which said he's not going to choose any of that. He's going to be a scientist. He is going to do something in the stem field.

Speaker 6

Yes, not to mention that he was very good at science and math, and as he was very good at the sports and what have you. But I think this was this particular time when he had a laccident at home where he cast his kneecap, and instead of going through the pain and agony of having gassed your your your kneecap, he started showing me the ligaments and the us I knew something was strange about me.

Speaker 1

What was home like for you and your family? Were your parents really tough on you as far as school? Did they encourage you to pursue certain careers. What was life like growing up in the McNair household.

Speaker 6

Well, my mother only went to the eleventh grade. Rather more, my father only went to the eighth grade, and my mother only went to eleventh grade because they would allow black people to go past the eleventh grade in this segregated town in South Carolina. But she did find a way to go on to school. And we saw her the nasty throughout our lives and all for education, and I think that inspired us. My dad he would say, hey, look, whatever you want to do, just be a just do it.

Speaker 4

Well, if you're going to be a bomb, be a good bomb. That was his advice.

Speaker 1

Do you remember when or was there a singular moment when doctor Minair maybe came to you and said, Carl, I have this dream of becoming an astronaut or I'm going to apply for the NASA astronaut program. Do you remember that moment. Was there a moment like that?

Speaker 6

Well, there was a like that, and I'll tell you about that moment, but I'll.

Speaker 4

Tell you how he got to that point.

Speaker 7

Ron.

Speaker 6

I remember, Ron had finished his education at A and T where he and I started at the same time. That's North Carolina, A and T in Greensboro, North Carolina. And it was through A and T where he got the opportunities to spend a summer at MIT and thereby having a look at Mit, Mit had to look at him, and he knew the professors, and that made it I won't say easier, but sometimes when you made relationships and connections in your network, it makes it a little easier.

But it wasn't before he had some self doubts early on why he was at A and C whether he could compete, because he ran into these guys who was in the physics program, and they came from the school Swamp North. They had all of these great math and science courses. In fact, they had physics, thermodynamics and classical mechanics and had modern physics. And Ron only had a class of physics one oh one taught by a teacher

who never saw a book of physics. So he came in at a disadvantage, almost quit but to become a music major. But his advisor, which you could only find, we'd like to think that way, but usually at HPCUS you'll find folks who will make certain that you get what you need. She encouraged him to go try physics. That was the confidence that he needed. He went on and try try physics, and the rest is history.

Speaker 3

It was a bitter, cold, but sparkling clear morning at Cape canaveral Man and here at the last seconds of the countdown.

Speaker 2

Three two one and lift off, left off solve the twenty fifth base Shuttle mission and it as clear.

Speaker 1

As the tower.

Speaker 3

All the communications between the shuttle and mission control indicated everything was going fine. There was a sense of relief that the much delayed flight was finally underway.

Speaker 5

Engines had sixty five percent, three engines are running normally, three good fuel deals, three good APUs engines throttling up, three engines and owin one hundred and four percent challenger goh it throttle up.

Speaker 3

It happened just over one minute into flight.

Speaker 5

One minute fifteen seconds, flanty twenty nine hundred and pet per second, altitude nine augo milestown, range distance seven aug.

Speaker 3

A mile, our mission control silence. Then the bland chilling report.

Speaker 5

We have a report from the flight dynamics officer that the vehicle has exploded. Flight director confirms that we are looking at checking with the recovery forces to see what can be done at this point.

Speaker 3

A search effort couldn't begin for some fifteen minutes after this debris, they said, just kept raining.

Speaker 1

From the sky.

Speaker 3

The head of the Space Shuttle program had no explanations, just sorrow at the tragedy.

Speaker 8

At eleven forty am this morning, Space program experience our national tragedy with the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger. Approximately a minute and a half, I have to launch from here at the Kennedy Space Center.

Speaker 3

Computer enhanced video shows the explosion in detail. What explosion appears to happen at the rear of the spacecraft, around the main engines, perhaps in one of the two solid rocket boosters. Then up last, higher up, the shuttle was instantly a blazing fireball. NASA has appointed a committee of top engineers and scientists to investigate the catastrophe. Orders have been issued to impound all records concerning the flight, down

to the personal notes of all the flight controllers. Dan Molina, NBC News at the Johnson Space Center, Houston.

Speaker 1

On the line right now is Carl McNair, the older brother of doctor Ronald McNair, who perished thirty nine years ago today on Challenger fifty one l if you old enough to remember, it changed history. We'll have more with Carl McNair in just a moment.

Speaker 9

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1

And I'm right in the middle of a very special conversation. On this day, thirty nine years ago STS fifty one l Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. If you old enough like me to remember, it changed history. Right now on the line with me is Carl McNair, the older brother of doctor Ronald McNair, who perished along with six other astronauts on this day thirty nine years ago. And Carl, I think I remember, and I know you remember the Space

Shuttle program. It was after the Apollo missions. The mandate, the direction of the space program was just different. What was your brother's aspiration beyond the Space Shuttle program? Did he want to go, maybe one day, back to the move Where did he think his astronaut career would take him?

Speaker 6

Well, all along Ronald wanted to be a college professor. But when the opportunity came to apply to NASA, he knew there was a latent desire to become an astronaut. But remember now, during the dark times of the Gemini and Apollo. You had to be military, you had to be a fighter pilot, you had to be twenty twenty visions. You didn't you couldn't be black. And of course he certainly didn't fit the requirement of being a fighter pilot because he never looked.

Speaker 4

Playing, never was in the military.

Speaker 6

So when the Space Shuttle program came around, this was NASA's opportunity to have a more diverse space program. So you had women, you had other ethnicities like white, et cetera. And that's when he took advantage of that. That's how he took advantage of it. And there was always this laten designs. I said, I think Star Trek that was a big plus for a lot of young people to consider science degrees or work in the area of science

or stam if you will. And the prom was motivated Prome by one person more so than anyone else, and that was Lieutenant Yohora played by Michelle Nichols on Star Trek. Let me tell you, folks will go back that time to understand that was hour halle Berry doing those ladies.

Speaker 1

Carl. Let me ask you this because I have to ask you within the context of what's going on today. The whole idea of DEI diversity equity inclusion is controversial for lack of a better description, and it's been met with a lot of resistance. But you're telling me, if not for the public calls to diversify NASA, we would not have heard about doctor Ronald McNair or his ex world or his contributions within NASA. Is that correct?

Speaker 6

Absolutely? And probably for women as well. They didn't have any women and it was the New Space Program where they had decided to diversify. I might add that was under the administration Jimmy Carter, President Jimmy Carter's administration, So that kind of kind of fits, doesn't it, And so that's how that came about.

Speaker 4

It would be very challenging today. I thought about this recently.

Speaker 6

Obviously, that would being that I posted a picture of the Space Shuttle Challenger fifty one L crew and I thought to myself, would this have been possible today?

Speaker 4

Would have been possible?

Speaker 1

Since we're there, let's talk about it now directly. I remember where I was when I got the news that the Challenger Space Shuttle fifty one L had exploded shortly after takeoff thirty nine years ago this week, I was a junior in high school. I was walking in between Spanish and ap English classes. I remember the cloud around the very public investigation afterward. You know, all this is

just like seared in my memory. There have been plenty of documentaries and movies over the years, and Karl McNair, I've known you for some twenty years and I've never asked you, but I'm asking you now. Have we, the general public, or at least the families, gotten the full truth surrounding Challenger?

Speaker 4

Quite frankly, we have no real idea.

Speaker 6

We know with some of the reports, We've seen some documentaries and found out more, But the answer is no.

Speaker 1

How do you look upon that some thirty nine years later.

Speaker 6

Well, I'm very actor, quite frankly, as somebody said, whatever they tell me, it's not going to bring Ron back, not going to bring in aid of the crew back. So I focus on the positive. As you well know, we have a lot of mcneir's scholars program.

Speaker 4

We have over five.

Speaker 6

Thousand mcnear's scholars program, mcnehir's scholars in the program right now. We've seen go on to do remarkable things in the areas of science, technology, engineering, math, as well as other profession as well. You know, for instance, Congresswoman Natima Williams from Georgia, she's a McNair scholar, and there's others who have achieved great things who are mcneir's scholars.

Speaker 4

And it had it not been for.

Speaker 6

The program, as I hear her from a person as early as today, and had not been for that program, they never would.

Speaker 4

Have achieved the level of success that they have.

Speaker 6

And the whole idea is inspired them be going to graduate school ultimately to get a PhD or some other doctor degree and return and be that person in front of the classroom that many of them found themselves absent of. So that's the essence of the program.

Speaker 1

Carlbing there, My time is running short with you, but I know earlier this evening and I appreciate you coming on on such short notice. But earlier this evening there was a candle light visual for doctor McNair as doctor Ronald E. McNair Life History Memorial Park in Lake City, South Carolina, where he was born. This is an annual event to keep his memory alive. Along those lines, what do you hear from the young people who may not have any memory of him? But are now first learning about him.

Speaker 6

Well, we've found over the years. So the first thing young people must do be exposed to possibilities out there. As you occurred before. You can't be what you can't see, and so we showed them, not only the professionals who are in those areas as well. The Cantillot Visuals is the annual annual event, if you will, to remember in our small town, Lake City, South Carolina, when we were coming along, it was no more than population what two thousand, now maybe it's around eight if.

Speaker 4

He fludge it a little bit.

Speaker 6

And people need to remember that here was a country bar from Lake City, South Carolina. As I mentioned, population two thousand and segregated South Carolina was almost thrown out the library. But he came out of this environment went on to become an astronaut. And it was because of the upbringing the school teachers at the time that we had.

And we remember, we remember the school teachers as well, if it had not been for them to inspire Ron to go to the Sower program at Virginia Union, which is another HBCU, and that's when he got the idea from a professor that he could go all the way to the PhD. Didn't know what it was.

Speaker 4

But he was going to receive a PhD out there learning that that was the highest academic level that you could achieve.

Speaker 6

So that was the spark right there that carried him on and some great advisors.

Speaker 4

And he didn't get there by himself.

Speaker 6

I want anybody to think that he just you know, got to that level by himself, but people along the line. I called him guarding an agents to looking over shielder and make certain it takes the right direction.

Speaker 1

He is Carl McNair, founder of McNair Achievement Program, author and STEM Education consultant. He, like me and doctor Ronald McNair, are men of Omega Sci Fi Fraternity Incorporated. Ral McNair, I said it early, I'll stay it again. I've known you for about twenty years. I've appreciated our dialogues off air about your brother and your brother's achievements, and I want to celebrate you and yours as well. Thank you for coming on this show tonight, and let's keep Ronald McNair's memory alive.

Speaker 4

Thank you, brother. Kelly.

Speaker 1

It's later with Moe Kelly k IF. I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 9

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and.

Speaker 1

You've been hearing the updates. We are excited here. Fire Aid is almost here. We were talking about this just off air before the show about how much we are excited by not only the fact we had the fire coverage, but there's something good which is going to come out of it where we as a community can come together and make sure that these individuals who've lost their homes, these individuals who don't know where to turn next, may have lost their businesses, can get, at least on a

small level, some help. And we told you about fire Aid before it was even going to be called fire Aid, before they even had any artists who were signed up. But we told you about the process. Here's what's going to happen, and you'll see these big names rolling in and now the big names are here for fire Aid, which is going to be on Thursday, January thirtieth at both six pm at seven thirty pm between two different venues,

the Kia Form and the Into It Dome. And let's say you can't get there in person, you can watch it on Max. You can watch it on Amazon Prime Video, Direct Stream, Apple TV, Hulu, Disney Plus, Direct Tv, Peacock, Paramount Plus, NBC News Now, Netflix to Doom, YouTube Tv, Amazon Music, you can listen Apple Music, you can listen Spotify, Serious, XM, iHeartRadio, of course, SoundCloud, Amazon Live, TikTok FanDuel. It goes on and on and on. What about tickets, Well, I'm glad

you asked. The tickets are available right now and you can get them at ticketmaster dot com. What time is the concert? Tell you again? Starts at six o'clock at the ki of Forum. The doors open at five. The Into a Dome will begin at seven point thirty. Doors also open at five pm. And if you live in and around Inglewood like me, well you're just sol. Don't try to drive in that area if you don't actually

have to be in that area. Well, what if you want to watch both concerts, Well you probably won't want to go to the venue if you want to see both concerts. But in an effort to ensure people can at least experience as much of the fire Aid benefit show as possible, fans who buy tickets four Into a Dome will be able to view the key of Form

show when it begins on screens inside the into a Dome. Conversely, when the Key of Forms show ends, fans inside will be able to view the acts at Into a Dome on screens at the KYA Form until the end of the event. If you're wondering how much ticket's gonna cost, well, they start at ninety nine dollars. But here's the good news.

One hundred percent of ticket purchases go to benefit fire aid relief efforts with all venue and ticketing service fees way, so the price you see is the price you will actually pay, and one hundred percent of that ticket goes to benefit fire aid relief efforts. Now, you will have the opportunity to go either show, but you probably won't

be able to go to both shows. In other words, tickets are only valid for the venue that you select, So be very clear are you buying tickets for Kia Forum or into a Dome Because it will not let you. Even though they're right down the street from each other, You're not gonna be able to drive back and forth. Maybe spend an hour one venue then go over to the other venue. No, they will have screens inside, but you will not be allowed entrance or access to both venues.

And the question I usually get is you know, can I watch it? Yes, some of us will just be watching it. I know we may have it on the screens and here inside the studio at KFI. Obviously we can't listen to it per se, but we can watch what's going on. But you you can watch it through all those devices and streaming apps I told you about. You can listen to any of the FM stations here at iHeartMedia LA. They'll all be broadcasting the concert. And it's going to be a wonderful, wonderful event. And I

haven't gone over yet. Let me go over it one more time about some of the acts which are going to be performing. This is just some of the acts. I expect some last minute late announcements about huge, huge performers, but right now we know at the end to it Dome, you're going to have Billie Eilish Abrams little baby shout out to Mark Runner. That's what you had me at the infant Mark you have always been a little Baby fan. So it's my job to give credit where credit is due.

Lady Gaga, Olivia Rodrigo, Katy Perry, and if that wasn't good enough, Stevie Wonder, the Stevie Wonder, Tate mccraig, Staying and Moore. In other words, they have other artists which they will be announcing in the next twenty four hours at the key of form. Let's say I love into a Dome, but I'm more interested in going to the Kia form. Well, here's what's waiting for you a lot.

It's more Set Green Day, Dave Matthews and John Mayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Pink, and some other surprise guests that they will be announcing, and you can listen to all this on the iHeartRadio app. Of course, you can listen to it on our terrestrial radio stations. I told you about our FM radio stations. I'm talking about my FM, or Real ninety two to three, or Co's one of three point five, KISSFM one on two

point seven. There's so many ways that you can enjoy, but more importantly, participate in this tremendous event for the benefit for victims of these fires. We've been telling you about that, We've been covering them for the better part of two and a half weeks, and now we can move from the crisis portion to the recovery portion. And we have Nick Pouliochini in the studio who knows a little bit about music. We have twallets Sharpen the studio knows a little bit about music, and I know just

a little bit about music. And I can tell you it's rare, and it's good that it's rare given the circumstances. It's rare you have this much talent together under one roof, much less two roofs.

Speaker 10

Well, yeah, And I think it's gonna be really interesting to see exactly what happens and what this is because the last time we did this was we had like Farm Aid and we've had all these different Aid concerts throughout time. But I'm really curious to see how this is going to play out, because I mean, you've got two venues, You've got two completely different setups.

Speaker 1

What is it going to be?

Speaker 10

Is it going to be something akin to a telethon like we've been used to kind of down that farm made path?

Speaker 1

Is just gonna be straight music? Like what exactly is the breakdown going to be? Here's something that I noticed that is really different and significant. You talked about or mentioned Live Aid, Farm Aid that was in a stadium, right, this is much more intimate, exact when you're in an arena of let's say, nineteen to twenty thousand people as opposed to eighty ninety thousand people, which as a concert

goer is far more attractive for me. All this talent and I'll say, a relatively small arena, and you got other big names which are coming between now and Thursday. Lookout. Oh, I agree.

Speaker 7

I'm hoping to see some really, really, really unique acoustic performances. See that's a really really personal intimate performance.

Speaker 1

How is it you know that? And why would you expect that?

Speaker 7

Because from doing shows like this, where you have artists who are coming out who are not doing their normal concerts setup. Whenever I've been involved in producing a show like.

Speaker 1

This, you produce shows like this, I have I've had quite a history.

Speaker 7

Some of these artists as a matter as a matter of fact, lots of these artists.

Speaker 1

Oh how about lots of these artists.

Speaker 7

When you have shows like this a lot of times and artists will come out with their signature musician team. They will have a small arrangement team, maybe a keyboard player, guitar upright, bass, you know, just the things that they need to just really knock out a show real fast, unless they're going to perform the track. Alah, maybe a little baby may be perform to track to kind of

help things move along. But with artists like Billy Eilish and the Likes and even Stevie Wonder, I will just come out and say, hey, you know what, in order to make the show flow, I'm gonna come out and do my big hit. I'm gonna do another song which I will dedicate directly to the victims of the wildfire. You know, say God bless you good night. And that is what we will see a lot of because this is a lot of acts to pack into one night on a Thursday night.

Speaker 1

The show isn't going on all night long, No it isn't.

Speaker 7

So this is these are also union houses that have to What does that mean? They have to shut down at a certain time. Light's got to go on otherwise. And I know, God bless you Steve Walmer for picking up the tab. But but but there does come a limit and you will have to say light's got to go on at eleven.

Speaker 1

This is a show. As a performer, you want to perform early. You definitely want to perform early because people are going to invariably take more time than they're supposed to. There's gonna be some logistical issues getting people on and off stage, maybe some technical difficulties, and if you're let's say the ninth or tenth act, and it's getting late in the evening, you may be asked to cut a song from your set evening.

Speaker 7

I mean, like, like anyone going, I want to make sure you're going knowing that these are not contraport just if they come out and do a song, if they donate, because remember, these arts are donating their time. These are arts who are getting paid millions upon millions of dollars

to go on tour. I want you to know if they come out and they are able to donate a song or two, then cheer them on like it is the best thing you've ever seen, because they are donating their time to quite possibly one of the most worthy causes of this century, I would say. And so I solution you and shout out to the technical crew, behind the scenes crew, back house staging everyone ahead of time, because I know it is going to be hectic.

Speaker 1

And let me put it in just the consumer's terms. For ninety nine dollars, you would not be able to see one of these artists, much less thirteen of them.

Speaker 7

Trust My daughter's trying to get tickets to see Billie Eilish London.

Speaker 1

Their ticket is five hundred dollars.

Speaker 10

And I'm going to say something they've already looked because we kind of broke the news about this concert when it came out. We did those not need like I was literally we was literally here sitting in this chair.

Speaker 1

Was the first one, was the first Later with Kelly.

Speaker 10

Was the very first show in Los Angeles to talk about it, long before you heard any promos. No, I agree with you. The here's the challenge though, And remember I'm saying this not in a cynical way, because every single penny is going to an incredibly important, you know, situation to assist with. But those ninety nine dollars tickets are long gone.

Speaker 1

So okay, let's say the next tier up. You're still teen hundred dollars. Okay, it's the next tier up? Can if I am six forty we live everywhere in the iheartrad.

Speaker 9

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1

And coming up at the top of the hour. I'm always so glad to see my brother in study with us, Nick Poliochini. It's our new segment, What's Up with Nick? What's up? Comma with Nick? Not what's up with just like later with Mokelly. Right, yes, because if you say Landward Kelly, this sounds nigga now when you say what's up with Nick?

Speaker 10

But really well with the show that started here this weekend came Yeah, there you go, so all that stuff.

Speaker 1

What do you have coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 10

I'm excited because it has been I don't know. First of all, I'd like to say, welcome to Tuesday, the forty ninth of February. Is what it feels like without a joke in my you know, just saying that. But I want to talk about what's going on in the Southland. We've already covered a lot here. We've got fire aid

coming up, We've got so much else. But also tomorrow, a good portion of not just southern California, especially in Orange County, Garden Grove, Westminster, Santa Ana, we'll be celebrating Lunar New Year, and so that's what we're going to preview and We're going to talk about a lot of things that you can do and enjoy in and around the south Land, give you a little bit of history and background on Lunar New Year as well. And I want to talk about the biggest Vietnamese community outside of

Vietnam is in Orange County. We've talked about it here in KFI many times.

Speaker 1

Before, and I didn't know that until you told me about this.

Speaker 10

This was like right, But that's it's wild to think that it's been something that you know, is I mean, you could say it's something that we are very proud of here in southern California. Is the cultural diversity that we have, and not just you know, here in Los Angeles County, but La County, Riverside County, Sanmerdandino Ventura.

Speaker 1

Can you hear me?

Speaker 10

You know, I'm just saying it's we have such a diverse group of people who come together. And a lot of the businesses that I've been talking to have been raising money as well for the fires, the you know, for the Eaten fire, for Alsadena, for the Palasades fire, So you know it'll be something different.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think that's a function of a byproduct of everybody knows somebody, yes, who was impacted by these fires.

Speaker 10

You're correct, and I think like we've talked about here on Later but you you and Toualla specifically talking about the Dina like talking about the community that is or you know, is there still a lot of these communities have been affected and they know people and being of an international and a different cultural existence and experience here in southern California, some of them are still pretty quiet and they like to keep themselves, but they've been doing

just as much behind the scenes as much as they can to help support but not just their community, but the community at large.

Speaker 1

So we'll talk about that a little bit as well. And you gotta give us an update on what you're doing personally.

Speaker 10

I'll be happy to because lord knows, since begin in December, I've been out of work. So let's be real and genuine and audience. That's how we keep it here on Later but real, No, but I think that's it. It's just like so many of you who are trying to figure out what's next here in twenty twenty five, That's what I'm doing and pound the pavement and seeing what

there is out there. You can still see me on social media, Nick pollio'channi this week with Nick and many other brands fifteen minute footy and that'll be what we'll be diilding into a little bit here with eighty five Degrees Bakery, which uh oh yeah, which I was gonna say, you've thoroughly enjoyed, so you can tell about business. I was gonna say, you tell about business. So what's funny is it is for those of you who will participate

in watching your calories coming in the New Year. Some of the stuff is keto friendly, some of it's kind of paleo, so you know, I got you back.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's not completely sugar laden. No it's not.

Speaker 10

It's not, but it's delicious and it has really so many and we're also going to try something that is very different. This is specific for Lunar New Year. Golden yolk red bean pastry. Say that again, slower golden yolk. You know that the eggs that we keep talking about prices, Yeah, that red bean pastry. So this is going to be one of the things that a lot, well, especially in Taiwan, but a lot of different places have different things that

they do to celebrate Lunar New Year. So we're going to delve a little bit deeper into that, but yeah, that's pretty much what I've been up to is trying to figure out what's next. And I think that's what a lot of us are doing right now, is kind of figuring out what's next. It's the new year. We always are trying to figure out what's next and what's new for each of us. And some people subscribe to resolutions. I just need a job, So if that's my resolution,

is finding a job and finding the next thing. But I think the thing that I have done the most between last year being let go by iHeart and then also you know, still coming around is where have I

been able to help out? And I think being able to really get into it because of the incredible connections that I was able to make here over eighteen years, specifically since the launch of Later with mo Kelly and being a part of that inaugural season and then going all the way through twenty twenty four and everything else that we've been through. It's amazing. Because my dms are open and if you want to reach out to me, Nick Poliokane this week of a Nick on Instagram, that's

the easiest way to get hold of me. But I've been able to coordinate so much with you know, connecting businesses and people and trying to find those things. I mean, the thing that we have not really talked about, the Grammys are coming up. Like it's kind of crazy to think that the Grammys are right around the corner. There's an event that I came from earlier today, getting the kicker off the Grammys. I'll be also participating in Grammy functions that are coming up. We've got the super Bowl.

Just we've got that game around the corner. You know, we've got You can hear the rules.

Speaker 1

You can talk about the super Bowl, okay, you just can't use it to promote a product and use the name super Bowl. Look, I could tell people, yeah, I'm going over to Tallas House. We're gonna watch the super Bowl together in right, but I can't say, hey, tune in the Lady with Moke Kelly where you could win your chance to go to the can't do that.

Speaker 10

That game I got you, Okay. So with that, it's just being able to really hit Tawala. I love your contemplative thoughts. If people could see us in studio, I think that's the thing we this show. I mean, many many shows on radio period would benefit highly from having a camera in their face show what's working on. I feel that and I can't wait for that. But and we've done how many Instagram lives here too, so you do know but our faces.

Speaker 1

But there's certain things with stories be for public consumptions. Correct some of the conversations during the break and the facial expressions during the break. I mean the fact that Mark Runner doesn't wear pants in the news room. He says it like he's kidding, but he's actually telling the truth.

Speaker 10

I'm impressed that they finally got you a little like knee blanket or whatever you have in their market. I don't know what that if it's a modesty thing or if it's keeping you warm, but what the story is, dude.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I was like, it's not very large, but.

Speaker 11

I really enjoy watching how you guys twist around to find a way to get me involved in these baroque insults.

Speaker 1

Get you here, it's time to break. You know you're at the time. I know that the seat must be clean.

Speaker 10

Yeah, it's the best seat in the house, because Lord knows in here sits here.

Speaker 11

Normally you don't need pants to do the news do you. I mean, we'll find out in a second. You think Walter Cronkite wore pants.

Speaker 1

I think none. If I am six forty more simulating talk about Leo. Yeah, live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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