I'm surprised. I'm still alive. I am six forty. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio apples Later with Mo Kelly the aftermath of Chateau Lei. Mo just wanted to say we had a fabulous time. Sometimes even the Instagram videos don't do it justice. You may not know I was doing karaoke for some unknown reason and ill advised reason with family members until maybe three in the morning. Do not ask me why. I just looked up and was three something, and I said, maybe I should go to bed, Maybe I should
actually go to sleep. Why because I have worked the next day, well actually the later that day, because it was three something in the morning. Uh yeah, I'm paying for it right now. But Stefan, we got to get you out there. Mark Ronner, we got to get you out there next year. I was jealous, especially of the food. It sounds like you guys had a terrific time last night. It sounded like a lot of fun. Well I can't speak for the food because I'm partial, but
to Walla Sharp was there, a producer Kiki Keanu was there. We had a producer Kayla who's there, producer Dana Nick Poliochini Tifony Hobfs. I'm trying to think of all the people like Gary Oldman in the professional saying it really, I mean, you really did bring everyone that that that night. It was it was cool and uh I thought of you the whole time. When I finally got home, and I mean I couldn't There's no way I could have gone to bed because you heard literal explosions. Did that come through?
Because I know what it sounded like when we were in the house. Oh yeah, I was talking. I went to Mark's uh booth after in the on when we were off, when we were a break, and I said, I was like, dude, it just sounds like it's right outside of his window. It was. It was it sounded like you were having the party in Gaza last night. It was. It was really even for me at times. It was disconcerting, Oh for sure, because there's there was
times where I was sitting there. I was just you know, going to the kitchen to get a snack, and it is so loud it actually made me jump. The ordinance that people are using these days is really high powered, and it's not just your neighborhood. I got home last night and I was opening the front door, and I heard something that sounded like remember the
the Moab the Mother of All bombs? That shook me. I mean like I I did, like a like a three Stooges type move going into the into the house, and I yelled something that woke everybody up in the house if the bomb didn't. It's everywhere people are getting their hands on some potent stuff. It's not an exaggeration, because I know the m eights that you hear all the time of loud explosions. I think that's an eighth of a stick of dynamite, I for mistake in at least. Yeah, it's can
do some serious damage to people, buildings, cars. I just like that in my housing development. I'm not too close to the street where you're gonna get the neighborhood fireworks. I got kind of a naive question, why is that fun? What do you mean fun? What portion of it you'd mean? What fireworks in general? Just setting off just a bomb like that. I don't know. I kind of asked that question last night. I don't
know what the appeal is. I thought some of it has to do with nostalgia, growing up, fond memories of parties, surrounding the fourth of July. But the fireworks themselves, I don't have. I don't think I ever had a real desire to go out and light off all sorts of fireworks. I just was, well, they were different. I mean, they were kind of like sparkly, fun, colorful things, but we're talking like just actual weapons of war in the neighborhood. He're just full on bombs. I
don't know now. I will say last night, my son, he went off with your blended sons and their crew outside of the property. Yeah, out of the property, and you told everyone, you said, do not do not do anything on this property, period. And they took you to heart because they went into the hood. And my son said, Daddy, they were like guys out there with like colors hanging out their back pockets, and they were setting up stuff in the streets. He said, I see
what you've been telling us. But at eighteen, he said, for me, that was exciting because you and mommy have never let me even touch a firework. So he said, we got a cherry bomb and none of us have ever been with one. They put it out on the street. They're all kind of standing relatively close. What a Cherryboam was gonna do. He said, when that thing went off, they all thought they had lost their lives. Didn't I tell them, Didn't I tell them? Yes, you
know even some other adults. First, do not partake in that, especially in our house and development, because they will call the police on you in a heartbeat. And also if you do it outside the gates, you're you're you're increasing the likelihood of getting harmed. Yes, for a number of reasons. Ever, get off the boat. You know. I guess people don't believe me because when I tell the stories on KF I be it the sounds of the fireworks, or if I talk about what it looks like, invariably
someone will say, no, you're exaggerated. It can't be like that. No, I'm really not. I'm really not. It is like leaving there every street, some of the streets look like they were blocked off, because, yeah, because they'll get mad at you and you have some misunderstandings if you interrupt their illegal fireworks. Yes, and by the way, I guess there's a thing now. I didn't know this because mo, you know where
I am and it doesn't give any location. But I have to take the one O five East and there's that bank that comes around and you can kind of see a little bit of like not south central, but like that back area when you're coming around, and I thought the Google Maps was like, oh, it slows down. So I was like, oh, there's an accident. Okay, well, you know, no big deal. And there was like four or five cars and I'm like, ooh, this is a
bad one. I keep driving. There's like fourteen cars all lined up and I guess that's the spot now so that they want to see all the fireworks of everything going on, and I'm like, all the freeway. On the freeway, they literally pulled off to the side, and I'm like, all it takes is one guy to not pay attention and they'll smash into anybody that's sitting there. Like I couldn't believe that. I'm like, and I'll admit I was driving. I'm like, Okay, that's kind of cool. I'm
not going to sit there. Look. I often say humans amaze me, but for the most most part of the time, they just really lived down to my low expectations. And why in the world would you stop on the freeway for any other reason than an emergency number? One, And why would you stop and have a caravan of people on the freeway so you could watch the fireworks from home on the on the one ten the entire time up until we got to about USC on both sides of the freeway, and I swear
even on the freeway there were fireworks both sides. I felt like it was an attraction, like like back in the day we would go to say, uh Dodger Stadium and watch you know, the firewors and Christmas lights. No, the entire ten fireworks on both sides. I loved it. I loved it. It was like a show within the show. But you did did you stop it? Pull over? Hell? No? But but but but on on the overpasses you could see on the people launching fireworks on the overpasses,
above the fire or above the freeway, which was crazy. Well, I was driving home from your party, and I took the at the one oh five and then to the ninety one, like six five to the ninety one, and the entire time I'm driving, I felt like I was in like a video game, like a car racing video game. At the end of like the lap and all the fireworks. Because she left before the main fireworks. Yes, but as I was driving the main fireworks started and it
was just fireworks overhead. We could feel the shaking and it was like whoa. But But to your point, and also Mark's point, I think it has increased in volume. I don't think it's the same as maybe five ten years ago. I think there's more of an influx of fireworks and illegal fireworks. Yeah, some serious ones. And by the way, is there anything that makes you feel more like a primitive man than just looking up at stuff blowing up in the sky and going like, look at that. Now,
I don't feel primitive. I don't. I don't, I don't. No, it's not that deep for me. It makes me feel like the one of the man Apes at the beginning of two thousand and one. To be fascinated by fireworks going off. Now that's a deep cut. You assume that people have seen a space obyssecene. All right, people have and some more will, yeah, or remember that scene but that's the opening scene. Yeah, yeah, and they tossed the bone and it turns into the Discovery.
Thank god? You remember? Oh look, come on now, it's me. It's me you're talking to. I wasn't gone that long you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty and coming up at eight o'clock they will have i'll say, the West Coast airing of the Biden Stephanopoulos interview on ABC, and for some reason, I don't don't know why they didn't run it, well I know why, but you would think that they would run it everywhere live. At the same time, they want to
maximize the ratings for ABC. But from a political standpoint, you put yourself in a bad situation because here folks on the West Coast like me and you, we get to them cherry pick pieces of the interview and if you were to turn on Fox, you turn on CNN, turn on MSNBC. They're cherry picking. And I'm going to do it myself so to be fair, but they're cherry picking portions of the interview to highlight whatever they want to highlight,
and you lose control of the narrative. That's always important in politics, controlling the narrative. This interview was an attempt to take back control of the narrative surrounding the candidacy of Joe Biden, whether he is fit to continuous campaign whether he's fit to serve another four years. I don't know if that was even possible, That goal was impossible to achieve, if only because the interview, I think, is about twenty two minutes long, and we all saw
the debate which was ninety minutes long. So there's nothing I don't think that he can do in the twenty two minutes answering a handful of questions which are within a certain range of subjects that he kind of knows are coming. I'm not saying they fed him the questions, but you know he's going to be that he was going to be asked about the debate. They obviously were going
to ask him about whether he can serve the next four years. You knew that they were going to ask him about whether he stays in a race, whether it could hurt the Democrats down the ballot. Those are the obvious questions, So he would have to know that that those were coming. Instead of a presidential debate over an hour and a half, where you're less likely to know exactly what types of questions you're going to be asked. You may know
the subject matter, but you don't know the specific questions. And I got this one note from someone, and I don't know why they took it this away, but when I was last talking about President Biden, this person hit me on threads and said that I was advocating for Biden to step down.
No, no, no, I was never advocating that. In fact, I was just laying out the obstacles in front of Biden, and I also laid out the different options of the Democrats, and I was saying the Democrats had to choose between the best of bad options to maneuver and navigate through this moment. I don't think there is a good answer here. And for Star Trek fans, and I know you would appreciate this, Mark, I would
call it the Kobayashi Maru no Way scenario. No, but I'm just saying his candidacy is not better off today with this interview or not than before the debate. Is it determinative? Does it mean that he loses the election? Absolutely not. I'm just saying it does that debate deformance did nothing to help his candidacy. So with all that said, here are four clips that yes, I cherry picked and I wanted to use to just further this discussion.
And you know, the obvious question was whether President Biden knew during the debate how poorly it was going for him. This is what he had to say. I'll even put in George Stephanopolis's question, so you know exactly how it was asked. Did you ever watch the debate afterwards? I don't think I did. Know, well, I don't try. What I want to get at is, what were you experiencing as you were going through the debate? Did you know how badly it was going? Yeah? Look the whole way
I prepared. Nobody's fault mind, nobody's fault of mind. I I prepare what I usually would do, sitting down as I did, come back for invaders or the National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized about part way through that. You know, I get quoted the New York Times having me down at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever the hell it
is. Wait wait, wait, wait wait? Did you did you hear that he just changed directions and started answering a different question, something that was completely unasked. Listen to this again and listen how he doesn't really answer the question and then starts talking about something else altogether. Did you ever watch the debate afterwards. I don't think I didn't know, well, I don't try. What I want to get at is, what were you experiencing as you
were going through the debate? Did you know how badly it was going? Yeah? Look, long pause. The whole way I prepared nobody's fault of mind, nobody's fault of mind. I uh, I prepared what I usually would do, sitting down as I did, come back for invaders or National Security Council, for expressly detail. And I realized part way through that you know, I could quoted The New York Times had me down at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever the hell event he's gone on to something
else. The fact the matter is that what I looked at is that he also lied twenty eight times. I couldn't. I mean, the way the debate ran not my fault. No one else is full, No one else's full. I'm not sure what I should take away from that particular answer. Wasn't he trying to put it in perspective? He what I think he was trying to do, and I would rather his audio stand on his own.
I think he was trying to say I was not doing as badly as people thought, because Donald Trump lied a bunch of times, and that should be the story. That's what I think he was trying to say. He didn't come out that way. Yeah, it seemed that way to me, all right. As for his being exhausted and being tired, George asked him about it. This is the president's answer. You know, you say you were exhausted, and I know you've said that before as well. But you came
and you did have a tough mind. But you came home from Europe about eleven or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in camp. David, why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery time? Because I was sick? Can I much feeling terrible? Matter of fact, the doc's with me, I asked him. They did a COVID test, But you're trying to figure that was wrong. So did a test to see whether or not I had some infection and I'm a virus. I didn't. I just had
a really bad cold. Let's take him out of his word. Let's say that it was just a bad cold. But if a bad cold does that much to debilitate him, then it's fair to wonder whether he can handle the next four years. I'm just talking about fair to ask the question and fair to wander out loud, because, honestly, and I'd like to tease Mark Ronner, Mark Ronner is not going to be as physically fit presumably four years from now. Okay, I am a god among men. I don't know
what you're talking about. I may not be, as you know, as quick as I was four years from now. I could see your rapid deterioration in real time, so I believe that. But to be serious, I think it's fair to talk about having an honest conversation whether it's not about whether he is sick today. It's not about whether he was sick that night. It is about how how I don't want to work, used to work incapacitated. But how if we take hibout his word and it's true that he just
had a bad cold. If a bad cold put him down for a number of weeks, then you got to have the conversation about where his hell health is big picture. You think that's unfair. Why can we pick it up on the other side of the break, and then we'll pick up on the other side. It's later with Moke Kelly ca if I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. At eight o'clock Tonight will be the
West Coast airing of the President Biden George Stephanopoulos interview on ABC. It's already aired on the East Coast, so clips are slipping out. You might even be able to find the full interview online. And I was saying, I thought that was a mistake, if only because when you have clips out there, then you don't get to control the narrative and people will have digested the interview before the West Coast had seen it. And I'm actually, you know,
proving that point by playing clips from the interview. Also before the break, I played one of the questions and answers about his jet lag, his supposed jet lag. George had asked him, you know you were back after a certain amount of time. Why did you need so much time to recover? And you still weren't one hundred percent by the debate. I'll just play it again and then we'll pick up my conversation. And I think Mark had
something to chime in. You know, you say you were exhausted. And I know you've said that before as well, But you came and you did have a tough mind. But you came home from Europe about eleven or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in camp David, why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery time? Because I was sick? Can I much feeling terrible? Matter of fact, the doc's with me, I asked him. They did a COVID test, But you're trying to figure out what's
wrong. So did a test to see whether or not I had some infection and I'm a brus I didn't. I just had a really bad cold. I said, Okay, a really bad cold affects you that long, then it's fair then to have the conversation of not necessarily about your overall health, but whether you be up for the next four years, because we all know our immune systems decline with a and being President of the United States, leader of the free world, is the most difficult job in the world. It's
not one that gets easier the longer you do it. And presidents notoriously age, I would say more quickly than other people because of the job. And mark your thoughts well, it turned Obama's hair gray pretty fast, didn't it. You did? It seems like a really weird double standard in the coverage though, between Biden and Trump. And I'm strictly speaking in journalism terms here,
I've never seen a feeding frenzy like this before in news media. To scrutinize one of the two candidates but not both seems like just weird journalistic malpractice. To me, let me respond to you this way, President Biden asked for this interview. President Biden decided to sit down and answer these questions. The difference is, I would say Donald Trump doesn't grant interviews for the most part. He will grant interviews to very friendly outlets, and he will not
be asked these types of questions. But would he answer them? That I think is the difference. Well, it's certainly one of them. But I guess as a consumer of journalism and a journalist and somebody who really pays close attention to media criticism, I've got a distinct feeling that the news media is putting a thumb on the scale with this in a super inappropriate way, most obviously with the New York Times, but it's everywhere, and if you pay
attention, you'll notice it. And it's kind of a feedback loop too. You've got this constant, really obviously disproportionate coverage, this disproportionate focus and scrutiny on Biden but not Trump, and then the news organizations turn around and pull the people who have been getting bombarded with this coverage to see what they think. And there's your feedback loop right there. Well, I would say, also, yes, it would be fair to scrutinize in the same way.
And I did say if you listen, I know you're not talking about me per se, but I'm saying more generally, yes, if you he had listened to what I said. I it said that Donald Trump deserves the same scrutiny if you listen to him at his rallies, and I do. Yeah, if you watch him, there is some very aberant behavior going on. There worthy a public question and dialogue. Sometimes I think people just want to trust to toss it to just attribute it to Trump being Trump, or he's
being a comedian, and no, it's disturbing behavior, right. All I'm saying is that you've got to be fair and look at them both, because it's been very disproportionate since that debate, and that's been inappropriate to me as a journalist. I assume that ABC has put in a request to speak to
Donald Trump. I don't know if you will grant that request. I think it's unlikely, especially because it's ABC, not a friendly not like Fox News, not like Newsmax, and it's George Stephanopoulos, who has, you know, a democratic background, right, and he's known to ask some tough questions and in fact, I well, I'm trying to remember what I've been watching,
but I watch so much that sometimes it all blends together. I seem to recall an interview between Stephanopoulos and Trump in the past that didn't go so well, but I'd have to look it up between between the seconds. I think he has sat down with George before, but in today's environment, I don't think he will. There are things that I think he did before he was president and during his presidency, and I think he's much more retrenched now.
He's he's not trying to speak to anyone and everyone. That's not his goal. He speaks to his base, his followers, his supporters, and that's about it. Yeah, and he's also been lying kind of low ever since then as well. And I've seen credible analysis that he's just kind of watching the circular firing squad at work among the Democrats. Well, well, democrats do eat their own, you know. I just provide political analysis. So whatever happens happens. But before we finished the set, but I did
want to play a little bit more audio, and he was asked. President body was asked specifically whether this was a bad episode or something else along the lines of our conversation, Mark, listen to this. You and your team said, have said you had a bad night, but your friend Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question I think is on the minds of millions of Americans. Was this a bad episode with a sign of a more serious condition. It's
a bad episode, no indicating any serious condition. I was exhausted. I did listen to my instincts in terms of pre parents and the bad nights. Let's again, I want to be consistent. Let's take him at his word. If it's just a bad episode, a bad night, you know that he cannot have any misstep between now and November. He can't freeze up. You can't have a similar moment in another debate. If there are any more
debates. I don't know if they will have any more debates. I don't know if people are going to accept it, because again, this is a twenty two minute interview, not a ninety minute debate, and the rigors of the campaign trail are going to increase between now and then if you use history as a guide, He's going to have to do more campaigning, He's going to have to do more interviews, he needs to be seen more often to counteract any type a picture that people may have in their heads of that night.
I think you're right. I think as a news consumer, just be aware of what you're watching and don't settle for any really obvious double standards in the coverage, and standards that one person is held to and the other person is not. Well, this is what I blame the Democratic Party for. There are things that the Democratic Party does, and there are things that the Democratic Party allows, and part of this, I believe is they allow it
and they try to answer questions that are not asked of other people. And in the way that people were trying to make the comparison between Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, well we're people asking him to step down where people ask him and I said, that's a false comparison. Number one, number one, because he did step down as Senate Majority Leader. And number two, he's not running for re election. He's made it clear that he's
gonna be done. She's going to finish out his turn. But the Democrats hold themselves to higher standards than the Republicans. That's on them. And what I mean by that is Nama last Republican to resign or step down anyone. What since Nixon? No, I'm just saying in the past, since the Trump era began. Good one, So I'm being serious. Yeah, a bunch of Democrats. Democrats hold Democrats to certain standards that the Republicans don't hold
Republicans. No, you actually make a terrific point, because there's no Republican equivalent to say Al Franken and what he did, right, that's or John Conyers. I mean, I can run a long list. So those are things that the Democrats do to themselves, having nothing to do with Republicans. It's later with mo Kelly can't I am six forty We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and when we come back we have a study of California's most and
least educated cities. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty Wallet Hub. You know that financial services company compared the one hundred and fifty most populated cities in the United States and graded them based on a formula that included the share of adults with high school diplomas and college degrees with respect to the quality of public education. So it ranks the top one hundred and fifty most populated area slash cities in the United States as it related
to education. So let me just give you very quickly the sixth Oh my goodness, of the top one fifty six California cities are at the bottom, coming in at number one hundred and forty Fresno, California. She got up so fast. What do you want to say? Yeah, it's number one forty what what don't hate on fresnow, I'm I'm just reading the I'm just
reading the list, coming in a number hundred and forty two. Selinas, California, coming in at number one hundred and forty five of the top one hundred and fifty cities and areas in the United States with respect to education, and if you're one hundred and forty five, that means you're at the bottom, you know, least educated Stockton. I'm sensing a theme here, coming in to number four, one hundred and forty six, Modesto, coming in
at one hundred and forty seven of the one hundred and fifty cities in the United States, I guess would be least educated. If you're at number one forty seven, Bakersfield, this is nationally. This is not just California, this is nationally and coming in at one hundred and fifty, the exact bottom of the of the list by Silure. Well, look, it's not my fault. I'm just reading it and they all happen to be in the same general area of I've made it out of Fresno. Oh you're still still on
Fresno. Take heart in the fact that you are only one hundred and fortieth. And if you're wondering at the other end of the spectrum, the ten most educated cities in the United States, according to wallet Hub, we're gonna have to run to these fasts. Coming in at number ten Seattle slash Tacoma slash Bellevue, Number nine Boston slash Cambridge slash Newton, Massachusetts, of course, Number eight Austin slash Round Rock slash Georgetown, Texas. Number seven,
Raleigh, North Carolina. Number six, San Francisco slash Oakland slash Berkeley lumped them all together. Number five Madison, Wisconsin. Number four, Durham Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Number three Washington d C Arlington and Alexandria, Virginia. Number two Stephen, Oh, he's on the phone. I need a step phone San Jose. I wanted him to play the song do you know the way to San Jose? But he was busy. And number one the most educated city in the US according to wallet Hub. Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Really, I don't know, I don't know. San Diego came in in number twenty three. Sacramento came in at number forty nine. Fifty two was Santa Rosa, Petaluma. Sixty fourth was Santa Maria Santa Barbara. Number ninety two was Oxnard slash Thousand Oaks. Number one, twenty one was Valeo, and number one thirty seven it is Riverside slash San Bernardino or River Tucky. What what? What? How was that above Fresno. Well, someone's got to be the dumbest. I mean, not everyone. Not everyone's equally
dumb. I'm sorry, was I talking about Presno? I'm trying to arned out where La is in this La slash Long Beach slash Anaheim. They lumped it all together even though it's different counties. Number eighty seven right, kind of in the middle, ish, kind of on the lower end of the middle. All right, are you are you mad? Why are you mad at me? Because Fresno doesn't measure up? Well? I think I'm pretty
educated, but I will say I didn't go to Fresno schools. I went to Clovis schools, which Fresno and Clo Tomato, Tomato, Presne, Clovis. It's all the same to me. Do you know where Clovis is? Does anybody know where close is? I mean other than googling a map. Look, hey, hey, you are not representative of this education standard. You are above the standard. You actually set the standard by everyone in your area where you came up with where they should strive to beef this. Do
not let this check who you are just because where they're from. You know, No, I appreciate that. Yeah, Okay, if you find yourself agreeing with everything we say, we're doing it wrong. K S I K O S T HD two Los Angeles, Orange County, lots everywhere on the radio.