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Medical Debt Relief, Restricting Masks at Protests & Term Limits for D.A.s and Sheriffs

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ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in with a look at LA County’s new medical debt relief program for residents AND lawmakers mulling over the idea of restricting masks at protests…PLUS – Thoughts on a new study that found California voters want to set term limits for D.A.s and sheriffs - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. This time tomorrow, you'll be able to listen in on the CNN presidential debate starting at six o'clock, running right on through until about seven thirty ish. That's on CNN and then simulcast on kf BON. So we're looking forward to hearing that. We'll have a debate recap. All right, listen, I I know a lot of people turning because they want somebody to argue with the

candidates. That's not me. I'm happy to tell you what happened, who said, what, what the big moments were. But if you're looking for somebody who's going to come on and say Trump was dead wrong or Biden was dead wrong, it's just not my bag. I'll leave that to Mark. By the way, Mark, Yes, had the story of La County talking about alleviating medical debt for a bunch of residents. Yeah, how about that? Yeah, I got some problem I do. And here's let me let

me give you the background on this. Broquin. So the supervisors unanimously voted to buy up and forgive millions of dollars in medical debt. Their plan is to tackle a two point nine billion dollar burden that weighs on almost eight hundred thousand residents. Now they're not dropping two point nine billion dollars, but they're going to try to take on a chunk of that. Okay, So what they've done now is they have voted to allow themselves. It's not it's not

good. We don't know for sure that it's going to happen, but we do know that they now have given themselves the authority, which is how bureaucracy works. We have to have a vote to see if we can vote la blah black. Anyway that I want to get into this program with a nonprofit. It's called undue medical debt. East be called rip medical debt, but evidently that was more so. This NGO takes some of what the patients owe and buys the medical debt from the debt. Is that the debtors what I

can't remember anyway, it buys the debt for pennies on the dollar. It's kind of like how collections agencies do this. So once you've been sent to collections, the in this case it would be the medical provider has written that all and so collections then tries to get so much, you know, and that's why oftentimes collections will call and they'll say, well, you know, we'll take ten cents of the dollar. We'll take five cents of the dollar.

Because what the collections companies do is, let's say you owe ten thousand dollars. The collections company will say, we'll buy that debt from you, doc or hospital or whatever. We'll buy the ten thousand dollars debt from you for five hundred dollars. And these are oftentimes outstanding debts. They've been around so long that the doctors just say, we'll take whatever we can get, and so five hundred dollars is better than zero dollars, so they sell it

to the colection ze. Similarly, this undo medical debt is saying we'll give you. You know, you got ten thousand dollars in debt, we'll give you five hundred dollars. We'll give you three hundred dollars whatever. Right, So they're buying this debt pennies on the dollar. And then what's going to happen is they're going to take the death that they buy and hand the bill to the county, and the county's going to pay them, right, that's

the idea. That's how this is supposed to work out. And the idea is that it's going to help an awful lot of people, people that are in debt. They say that the county's five million dollar public health investment will help one hundred and fifty thousand residents and eliminate five hundred million dollars in debt. Right, so there's five hundred million dollars in debt. They go, we'll give you five million, and the providers go, something's better than nothing,

will take it. Okay, sounds great. I have a couple of issues, and aside from the obvious wise the taxpayers put the bill for your medical expenses. I don't want to get into that because that turns into the political aspect of it, right and I and I understand the argument the government sponsored healthcare is beneficial to the community at large, blah blah blah. However, I would say this universal health care is an all or nothing proposition.

You can't dip your toe into universal health care. That doesn't solve any issue, especially because you're not really negotiating anything, so there's no set price to start with. This is all after the fat let me give you a let me let me tell you how this could shake down. All right. When I was in college, I got a credit card. It was it was one of those learning moments, all right. My credit card had a max of six hundred dollars okay, which in today's dollars, based on inflation,

I think would be in the neighborhood of eight hundred million dollars. So I had a six hundred dollars a cap on my credit card. I ran that up to about five feet and then I didn't have the money to make payment. Payment was due on Sday, Tuesday. I got paid on Friday. I mind up, thinking great, I'll make a payment. Now. I was only making a couple hundred bucks a week because I was working on weekends, and I wasn't making a whole number. So I didn't make payment on

Tuesday. So what happens on Wednesday? Boom? They had the late payment Boom that gets happened. So the late payment kee goes in and then all of a sudden, the interest from the previous month bang that hits. So my five point fifty immediately jumps up well over six hundred, and they go, oh, you're over the credit limit. How I get hit again. All right, So Friday, I make a payment of like two hundred dollars, which wipes out my checking account because again I was only working on the

weekends. Again, listen, this is just a lesson I learned when I was eighteen. So this cycle continues, and it continues, and it continues, and I'm not making the payments, and all of a sudden, they run this thing up to about eighteen hundred dollars three times my maps because you're over the limit. And then I would make a payment and they would go oooh, you made a payment, and now you've got a new balance. It's over the limit. There's another late payment fee or another over the limit

feed. They're like, oh, so good for you. Yeah, it was. It was great. Now, listen, we have actually cleaned up the credit card companies a little bit because of this sort of thing. There are new laws in place now that weren't in place in the mid nineties because of this sort of predatory behavior. But the gist of it is this, there was no incentive for them not to run that up none. So same thing when it comes to the medical debt. This is my this is my

worry, all right. Suppose that you are a I don't necessarily think there's the doctor's doing, but let's just mark you like this. Why don't I demonize the big hospital or big medical? Can I just say big medical at large? Does that exonerate some of the individual practitioners? Whether is the insurance

companies, you might start with them. Well, the insurance companies are not part of this because the insurance companies have either they either the people don't have insurance that the insurance companies aren't paying this and this is part of their responsibility. So this is yeah, I'm sorry, please proceed. Yeah. Yeah, So the LA County supervisors say, we want to buy up some of

the death that's crushing individuals. So suppose that you are big medical, all right, and you provide a procedure for your you know, the patient, and let's say that procedure is ten thousand dollars. You're big medical. You know that that patient is not going to pay the bill, especially when it

comes to er right. And part of what's happening here is that we've had laws passed like the Affortable Care Act, and that was limiting people, or you had HIPPA that said you have to treat people if they come into the emergency, right, some of these laws are there. So what's happening is big medicals figure out ways to manipulate the system. Since the system change to take away some of their advantages, so they're trying to figure out what the

new advantage. So suppose you have somebody come into the ear and that person comes into the er and their appendix is first, all right, so they have to have an emergency app deck. You can't turn them away because it's

a life threatening issue, so you have to perform emergency surgery. Now, emergency surgery might cost ten thousand dollars, but you happen to have this feeling that that person's not going to pay their ten thousand dollars, either because the person's in the system is someone that hasn't paid in the past, or you're a judgmental racist, church, whatever it is. You just think they're not

gonna do it. So what do you do. You run that bill up to one hundred thousand dollars, knowing that somebody is gonna step in and buy it for pennies on the dollar. You know that the government's gonna step in eventually and pay it. So if the patient has a bill of ten thousand or one hundred thousand, and they're not gonna be able to pay anything anyway,

why not pad that bill? Why not? Because if you pad the bill, what you're doing is you're saying, I know that this is going to go to collection and or it's going to go to this debt relief agency. And if it goes to the debt relief agency, if we want to get as much as possible. So if they were going to give us one hundred dollars or ten thousand, why don't we try to get at least a

thousand dollars by simply multiplying everything by ten. And I know it sounds shady, is all get up, But it took me all of about ten seconds to figure out a way to screw the system. And do you think that the people who are putting these burdens on individuals and aren't gonna be able to pay it the first place, had any qualms about screwing the system in their mind? They go, listen, we knew we weren't going to get ten thousand dollars, so of course we ran it up to one hundred grand.

We're still not going to get ten thousand dollars. We're only going to get a thousand out of it because we're selling it for pennies on the dollar. Right, So in their mind they're going, you're not even paying the ten thousand, You're still getting a deal. That's how they justified. So even if the county is paying pennies on the dollar, why not jack that dollar amount up more and collect more pennies. And this is the reason that every

provider, this is behind the scenes. This is not the patient. The patient goes into the emergency room and goes, I'm in a whole I'm in so much pain by pennies. First, I'm going to die. Right. They don't care what the bill is. They just say, get this thing out of me. But every provider has a contract negotiation with every insurer. And the reason not only insurer, but uh with medical, with medicare, there are contracts with every payer out there. Every provider has contracts with every

payer. It's why they're part of networks. The networks negotiate these contracts where you might contract with an individual payer or an individual yeah, it'd be an individual payer, whether it's an insurer or you know, an HMO, whatever it is. Right, And the reason is so there's no incentive to pump the prices. You negotiate those terms before somebody walks in with a burst apparents.

Right. So there's my concern if we are if we're not going to do universal healthcare and say look, we're going to make sure that all prices are fixed and this is how it's going to work, and we're gonna pay this off with everybody's tax dollars, then dipping your toe in the water is encouraging more malfeasons. That's my rain. Okay, I'm trying to follow along with you. I'm sure that I know it's complicated, and I apologize. No, no, no, no, I'm sure the people who stand to

have this crushing predatory medical debt relieved from them appreciate your principled stand. Listen, I understand that the people who are bound to benefit are going to say, what jerk. But how many times you drive by somebody with a sign of the freeway that says anything helps, and you go, man, I can't give them money because that just encourages them to stand by the freeway. They should go get help from someplace where it provides it. I'm sure that

person thinks, thanks a lot, jerk. So but the truth is, if we want to fix the system, if we want to help people more people in the long run, we got to fix the system, not help individuals what at a time. And I know it sounds shallow, it sounds free, but I'm trying to I'm trying to provide a larger solution, not a temporary things. What if you could do both of all ears? Okay, but I don't see Listen, this is America. I don't see the

insurance companies going, Okay, you've got it, we'll shut down. I don't see it. And even if we do move to some sort of a universal system, but it's gonna have to be through the insurance companies. I mean, the Affordable Care Act was the closest we get, and that was they had to work with the insurance companies to try to even get that far. And the insurance companies, of course figured out ways to screw people over

in the mid in the middle of it all. Wow, I got to go to break yes, Yeah, all right, listen, there is one great way if you are a criminal, there is one great way to make sure you don't get caught. Chips I'm getting away with the worst. Next Chris Merril KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere and your ieheart ready web you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI. Chris Merrill in fromo Kelly. Now that we have solved the medical building problems in the United States,

and I'm glad we were able took Thank you very much. I don't Mark was very happy about it. Mark, by the way, is busy getting a tongue lashing because we went way late in that last break. So no fo shooting there, he fears me. No, no, no. I talked to him and said he's writing you up. In fact, I believe you just got the world's first push demerit. No, no, no, he's a total paper tager. Don't listen to a word he says. He'll

get a time out tomorrow. Oh time out? Yeah? How about how about we just ban him from doing any news between seven and seven thirty? What do you think about that? That? Oh yeah, I'm coming down with something. I'm starting to feel a little little lightheaded. Yeah, that's good. You can hear the CNN presidential debate tomorrow from six pm until about seven thirty on CNN and then simulcast on KFI and then we'll let mark a big you on the news as soon as that's over. But seven uh.

There is talk of restricting masks for people who are protests were we're from mask mandates to mask banishment violent protests Sunday at a synagogue, prompting Mayor Karen bask to say to Los Angeles should consider rules governing demonstrations and the wearing of masks by those testing. We've seen similar tactics proposed in North Carolina and in New York. What we're seeing is an awful lot of people have masks that We

have lots of masks left over. They're usually stuffed in the back of a drawer somewhere because we think, well, maybe I'll wear these in the future if somebody in my office gets sick or if I get sick again. So we all have a bunch of masks laying around, and what happens is the protesters went on and I just wear masks. Now it's not always the masks, the masks that we were wearing for COVID. They're saying people are covering

their faces and what we don't want are violent protesters covering their faces. We need to ban masks. This is gonna surprise me. I take issue. It's not that I support anything the protesters they're doing. As far as the turning things, mind, I don't want that at all. I do want people to be able to protest. But the idea that masks are the problem

is akin to you remember when Haraldo used to blame crime on hoodies. There's a big thing it was about I don't know, ten fifteen years ago that a lot of you know, street crime was going on and people that were committing crimes were wearing hoodies. And you know why, this winter, and even if it wasn't winter, it was cool at night, so they were wearing these hoodies. And Heraldo said that the hoodies were to blame. Hoodies

were It was gang where hoodies were masking people from being caught. The hoodies were the problem. No, the hoodies are not the problem. The crime is the problem. The violence at protests are not the problem. The crime is the problem. And I think sometimes we get wrapped up on the minutia rather than focusing on the bigger picture. And these concerns about masks, what's

the problem one, they're hiding their faces. Two, they're worried that, well, what if we want to what if we need to have our are to your guests what they just wouldn't work on. Nah, I'm not buying it. And I'll tell you what if I'm a protester. First of all, don't do violent things. Don't do that, right, That's the first thing. But suppose that you are a protester and other people in your group turn violent, but you're wearing a mask, and let's say that that mask

is a mask that is the flag of the place where you're protest. In this case, you wouldeel like Palestinians or people supporting Palestinians pro Palestinians wearing the Palestinian flag mask. And let's suppose you get arrested, even though there's no evidence you've done anything wrong other than being there at the protest, and somebody else in the protest did something wrong. Now they're going to try to say,

well, you're part of the gang. My complaint would be wait a minute, I was just there protesting, exercising my First Amendment right to free speech and assembly, and then the flag is a symbol of my speech. I could see this turning ugly and becoming very expensive from illegal standpoint, as somebody is going to have standing and be the perfect defend or. I guess it'd be plaintive in a lawsuit against the city state whoever puts in these no

masked rules. It's a political distraction. It doesn't have a whole lot of foundation. Here in wall. Speaking of distractions, many times you will hear people say that if only we changed this one thing about our elected officials, all of our problems would be solved. I'll tell you what that one thing is and why there is no one size fits all. That is next. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

A pleasure being with you, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to hang out with you tonight. Remember there's the CNN presidential debate coming up tomorrow night starting at six on CNN and simulcast on kaf One large majority of California voters actually support something that I disagree with, and again I know I'm in the minority. I understand why you support this, I understand why you think it's a good idea, But let me make a case for why you should

rethink then Okay. Most California voters support term limits for elected offices, including county supervisors, disparate attorneys, and sheriffs. That according to a new poll that dropped yesterday. Some experts say that could signal a desire for new leadership in the November elections. Undoubtedly it's a signal for new leadership in the November

election. I think that goes without saying. The Only Times got the article talking about how many of the California How many was California voters want term limits for everybody? DA's sheriffs all this time? It was a poll that Berkeley did. It was the Institute of Governmental Studies, And what it shows is that three quarters of you want term limits enacted or shortened for many county supervisors. There are problems with term limits, and I think oftentimes what ends up

happening is people see term limits as a solution for bad leadership. I get it. I get it. You see somebody in office and you go, that person is terrible. We've got to get them out. You see somebody in office and then they get re elected and you go, how does this keep happening? How do we have this problem? I've never been a big fan of term limits, and especially for elected officials as long as there's elections.

Now, lifelong appointments a little bit different story. I want. I always like the idea of retaining judges or justices or whatever else it is, but I really have deep, deep concerns when it comes to term limits, because what happens is we end up with a long history of court leadership, right, and then once you have enough bad leaders in a row, people start saying, how do we get rid of bad leaders? How do I get people? I'm so, the DA's office has been a mess for too

long? How do I get that DA out there? The sheriff has been a mess for two How do I get that sheriff out of there? Get it? And the options through the election process are so poor that we're left saying, what if we just put in term limits so that we can keep the damage to a minimum. Okay, if that way, if we have somebody who's bad at their job but they keep getting re elected, at least we can stop them from getting re elected too many times. But what does

that get you? It gets you onto the next poor leader faster. So let me give you an example on a larger scale. Suppose that you are a Republican living in California. Right, for many of you, you've fit the bill. If you're in Orange County, chances are you prevadent. So what'd you think of Jerry Brown? Oh, Jerry Brown was the worst governor until Newsome. There's always a recency bias too. Have you noticed that Trump was the worst president ever since George W. Bush? And George W.

Bush was terrible. Since they would skip over his dad, they go right to Rake and the progressive was just hated Rake. For conservatives, they say, who is the worst president? Oh, my gosh, Joe Biden is the worst president ever. Remember when Obaba was in office. Obaba was the worst president ever. Clayton was the worst president ever. Okay, does that mean that it's getting progressively worse? Maybe your view point is, yeah,

it's getting progressively worse. You don't like the person who's being nominated and then elected from the other side. I get so Jerry Brown, Oh, it was a terrible governor, was terrible governor. Okay, term limits so then what then you have an election and then you get Newsome. If you are a Republican in California, the term limits didn't do anything for you. It

just moved down to the next person you didn't like. So when we say all we gotta get term limits that we can get the bad leaders out of there faster, what does it do springs up the next leader you're not gonna like. And our system at California is better because of the jungle primary when it comes to the state wide racis and things like that, So that that's better. But this idea of term limits and shortening term limits for even some

of these local offices, what does it really get you? What it gets you is fwer options. Let me contend that maybe you don't like Newsom, maybe you signed the petition to recall Newsome. Not only did Newsom win an election, he then beat the recall and then won another election. So the people at large in our democracy wanted news You didn't want Newsome, but the

people wanted Newsome. In the same way, you have leaders that you might not like that keep getting re elected, and what does that do for you. I don't like them, they keep getting reelected, Okay, but that's how our system works. More people like them than didn't like them, or more people liked this person staying in office than the candidate that made it up through the primary system to challenge them, you woant have a better challenger fix

the people who are coming out of the primaries. But because we have our two party system and everything else, the people coming out of the primaries tend to be farther to the right or farther than the left and the old days, the old Nixonian strategy wise, if somebody is you go, you attacked far right or far left in the primaries, and then if you win your primary, then you come back to senator to try to win people over in

the middle. What they're doing now, and you're seeing this playout national politics. What they're doing now is they're realizing that you can't really change the minds of independent voters. Even undecided voters tend to already have a leaning one way or the other. So what happened to They say, you know what, instead of tacking closer to center, I'm going to go all the way to bat Spit crazy right or batspit crazy left. This is how we end up

with the squad and you end up with the Marjorie Taylor Green right. Because what they're doing is they're trying to energize the base. Well political scientists have come to realize in the last few decades is that it's more important to get your base to go to the polls than it is to try to get a hesitant voter to vote for you. If you can get more people who are already committed to you to the polls, that is far more advantageous than trying

to get people who are hesitant to pull the lever for you. So, if you want to get bad leaders out, you've got to present good leaders. But our system doesn't really really allow for that. And this argument about not wanting lifelong politicians, it kind of falls apart when you start talking about things like the sheriff, because the sheriff is not a lifelong politician. Sheriffs by nature, by lifelong cops who rose to the position of politician. It's

almost like punishment for being good at your job. Ironically, being a good cop does not mean that you are a good politician. And then we're left saying that the politician isn't good at politics. We go, oh, my goodness, this politician isn't good at politics. Yeah, because they're not. Because they're cops. They're not politicians. They're not political science people. They're smart people, they have ambition, but they're cops steep down and so you're

asking a cop to be a politician. We wouldn't ask the politician to go be a cop. We're asking a cop to be a politician. So when you say, well, we don't want lifelong politicians, you're not hiring lifelong politicians in many of these jobs. When it comes to sheriff, you're not. You're hiring lifelong cop. But they might not be a great politician. You know that works. So the turn limit thing, all it does is remove your options from the ballot. Let's suppose it's somebody you like. Okay,

well they just maxed out. Now you don't get to vote for the many but they were great, Okay, well you voted internal limits. Now you don't get to vote for that person. It's one fewer option on the ballot that you might even like. PU Chris marril I AM six forty were live everywhere in your iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. Chris Merrill came from O Kelly tonight. Also, by the way, Twala has been amazing, says me, the

links to the podcast, which is wonderfully appreciating that. And I do a show on Sundays as well, and my producer from Sunday Set make sure that I remind people that you can find the Sunday show in the featured segments. So take that. It's wala, I'm featured. What do you think about that feature artist right here? He's done with silence. Yeah, I get it. You can hear the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. That is tomorrow. I believe today is Wednesday, right yesterday, I was thinking it was

Wednesday. This is my second Wednesday of the week, so that's great. The CNN Presidential Debate is tomorrow, starting at six on CNN simulcast on KFI, and then we will pop in immediately after it is complete. We'll give you an update on local news, and then we'll do a recap of what might down and we'll play back some of the clips in case you can get a chance to hear the whole thing. And I'm gonna guess probably some of the highlights and or low lights that'll be part of the program. There is

a new bill that's been introduced to the State Senate. The idea is to ban drones. And I know at first you go get banning drones, Yeah, but it's the drones that would be used by most of the county Sheriff's department and other police agents. They want to ban the drone outlawing it's the

bill would outlaw any blacklisted military equipment. Drones would be included. And a statement announcing the bill State Senator Tom Umberg Democrats Santa Anna, highlighting racent concerns around dj I. That is Chinese grone manufacturer is probably the biggest one in the world too. Those domestic drums, you know, the what do they call those? The rotary god, what are they called. I want to make sure I get this right, uh push, you know what I'm talking

about is the rotary blade drones or whatever. Anyways, the ones the helicopter, the smaller ones are yeah, the smaller one and they like the four roads that are on Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. I've never actually known their names, but I've seen a thousand of them. Yeah.

Yeah, they're the rotor drones anyway, as opposed to like the military ones that are jet makes a ton of these things and anyway, they've been blacklisted now by the Defense Department out of concerns that Dji's hardware is spying for the Chinese military. Department of Defense position is that systems produced by Dji posed potential

threats to national security. According to officials and the DoD, mitigating the threats posed by small unmanned aircraft systems, including DJI systems, remains a priority across the department. So what we're doing is we're giving Oh I know, listen, listen, you guys that are all about law and order. Thought, we got to stop TikTok. Oh, the Chi coms are watching our dance

videos. We've got to stop TikTok. They are threat to America. Oh okay, well, why don't we stop all these firms that are owned by Chinese companies, like your favorite drone. I I but I have a drone business. I take pictures of houses or Hey, the cop use those. But the cops need every tool they can get. Oh no, not this tool. You see, the Chinese Communist Party might be taking a look at whatever that drone footage is. They could be snapping pictures of your pool and

sending it back to Beijing. So that Beijing knows exactly how many lawn chairs you have around your pool. So you got that. There's a bill in the House of Representatives that would end the use of Dji drones domestically, kind of like they want to do with Takak and also Kasperski, which is the anti virus software owned by Russians. We have now told Kasperski, okay,

you can't, you can't operate. So if you have Kasperski, which I have on a couple of computers, you're going to find a new antivirus hup. Dji. By the way, just like Tatak has denied that any of its drones transmit data to the Chinese communist parties, saying that the latest efforts to ban their use in the United States just an effort to suppress foreign investment and benefit domestic drone companies. So Voice of oc I did some research on

those, Thank you guys, I appreciate nice job. Good work. Find out that almost every police department in the county owns at least one of these Dji drones, with the kind of sheriffs preparing to purchase more of these over the next year. It's because Dji they're kind of the standard right now, they make the good ones, and so now we're caught between do we support local law and order or do we want to buy into the national security risk

that's going into it? And why in the world wo any of the sheriff's departments want to have any of these things if there's even the smallest chance that you could be transmitting back to the Chinese Communist Party. Sometimes when you make a commotion, you start making these bold statements and start saying everything is bad. Then all of a sudden, you start banning your own stuff, and then it becomes a problem. Man. Have you ever flown one? Chris?

Okay, so my wife got this great question. My wife got me a drone a few years ago. It is not a dji, It is a knock on and it is really Listen, you gotta be skilled. This is what I got is supposed to be great for beginners and straight. Oh yeah, yeah, are you push? You fly these things? So I've never flown one, but I worked with a director who had to use one for it, and I saw him maneuver the the the promote and I'm like, dude, how the hell do you keep that thing straight? Because it's

like it was so smooth. But you should see. It's like when you play Xbox or PlayStation. It's like he was just maneuvering it so smooth with his fingers and it just flew like you would think he would just push one button. You know. It's it's crazy. Now, was he watching a video on a screen in front of him so he's getting the view from the drone or was he watching the drone in the snow? He was because we were like in open air, so he just looked at the drone. But

okay, I get confused. Yeah, oh that's true though. But either way, I'm like, how the heck? I don't know, Yeah, like make it. Oh my gosh, it's so hard. And what I found was that I would get the drone up in the air, and even the slightest breeze, the drone would turn a little bit, and then I pressed forward. But the drone has turned so forward is no longer forward. Forward, will go this way or that way, and I didn't know which way I was. I didn't know which way was straight anymore, and I

couldn't keep up with it. So then I would try to look at the camera because the camera's always going to put it forward, and then my field of view wasn't big enough, and I certainly wasn't used to her anyway, I got it stuck on the top of a tree and it was about eighty feet in the air, and I got stuck up there, and I thought I'm screwed, and I kept trying to like gass it like I don't know if you've ever stuck a car in the mud and you kind of try to

rock it forward and back. I was sort of trying to do that. So I'm in this field and you just start hearing boom zoomzo. All of a sudden, one of the rotors broke off because they hit a branch and the rot comes down. The drone is still stuck in the tree. Uh, and then I had to wait for it. Fortunately, after a day and a little bit stronger breeze, it blew itself out of the tree and

I picked it up off the ground. I put it back in the case and I had not us So that's my that's the extended by drone operation. So for you drone operators, I'm so impressed by your skill because it is legitimately impressive. It totally is well. You kind of buried the lead though, Chris, what did you need a drone for? Have you taken up Peep and Tommery? Yes, spying on the neighbors. Okay, yeah, yeah, thanks for clarification. Thank you. This field, by the way,

this is at my parents' house, nor the mission. This field, the local police were doing flyovers and they actually their neighbor who was right on the other side of this tree. He got buffed a few years back before they legalized weed. He had a giant grow back there. So listen, I gotta get that drone up to see who else has got the good stuff before they get busted. You gotta look out for those things. Well, that makes sense right right Listen, This is how I let's say you get

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