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Hour 1 | Serial Groper & Cellphone Restrictions In Classrooms

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Intro and icebreaker  // Suspected serial groper terrorizes Los Angeles women in grocery store aisles // Letter from a homeless listener // California lawmakers approve school phone restrictions / It's time to ban smartphones in the workplace 

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Speaker 1

Kf I AM sixty. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2

It's Later with Moe Kelly on kf I AM six forty live everywhere on your iHeart app. I'm Mark Ronner in for mo He and Tuala have a couple of nights off, and I'll be sitting in same show, same vibe, same crew, same chair all although I hope it's Scotch guarded, might as well keep it consistent. I'm usually chiming in from the safety of the news booth, but I could get used to this. I thought for a second I was gonna have to run back and forth all night,

but somebody will be filling in for me. We're gonna have fun tonight. It's Friday night, no need to get too heavy. We're gonna do name that cult movie classic, just like normal. We have a special theme tonight. We've got a special surprise guest at eight pm and a Runner report after that with a rundown on some stuff to watch and plenty of juvenile borderline inappropriate back and forth with the crew with me tonight is my pal Tiffany Hobbs, who you know from the viral loads, segments

and from some time in the host chair herself. There's no one I'd be happy to have with me tonight, especially in case I have a stroke or about of incontinence. We got this right, We have this. Thank you for being here with me, Tiffany having me. There is no one I'd rather be with. I'll tell you this. I'm you've probably picked up on this because the clues aren't exactly subtle. I'm a fairly guarded person and you just

charged right through my barriers right when we met. I'm like, no, please, do not approach, and you just you announced right away when we met. Sorry, I'm a hugger and that was kind of it. We can go into detail about my PTSD another time, but I'll just say I think you should be a therapist.

Speaker 3

I you know, I've heard that before, and if anything, I would definitely love to practice on you.

Speaker 4

Mark.

Speaker 2

Well, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe we should just leave it right there. In the fancy control room, we have Foosh working the board. Phosh, we got this tonight. We absolutely do. You got my back in case I just start crying abruptly decompensating. Absolutely, yeah, okay, and we got some stuff for you to play, and I'm relying on your supernatural sense of timing. I need you all to know that I am not ordering food for everyone tonight.

Does that change anything for anyone to hear? Are you going to be You're gonna be stingy with the rim shots now, fosh filling us? Okay, all right, I see what we're in for. Filling us in the news booth, Andrew Caravella. I hope you know, Andrew, the news anchor plays it completely straight and sticks strictly to the news like a vulcan for the entire three hours.

Speaker 4

You can do that, right, You're not mo Okay? All right?

Speaker 3

Then?

Speaker 2

Will you have a trainee in there with you tonight eventually when their uber arrives.

Speaker 4

Yes, I see.

Speaker 2

I was helping trainer and I noticed a pretty quick learning curve and I told her, you're going to have my job pretty soon, and I just didn't think it was going to be this soon. So nice to be expendable story. I'm going to tell you lots of fun stuff tonight, including that special guest. But before we get to that big thanks to Robin our authority figure of course, Chris Little.

Speaker 4

When Robin called me.

Speaker 2

She asked if I'd be interested in hosting some shows, and I said, I thought you'd never ask And she said, well, why didn't you ask me?

Speaker 4

And what I should have said.

Speaker 2

Was because I was too focused on working hard to be the best news anchor I could possibly be for you and Chris Little at KFI. What I actually said was something like, uh, I don't know, without making things too cheesy right off the bat, thanks to Mow and to Walla. Really too great and generous friends. Anybody be lucky to have, not like your radio Hey, you're great, buddy type of friends, but the kind who act like friends when they don't have to.

Speaker 4

No, he's watching or listening.

Speaker 2

I mean, they're not hearing this, And I wouldn't say it to their faces, because that is not our love language. Busting on each other is our love language, and that has actually showed up in some promos. Fush can you play the first one? Whoshi are you alive? Will you play the first promo? You've always wanted your face on a Wheati's box, haven't you? Nope, because you've made references to wanting buildings named after you.

Speaker 4

It's a big difference.

Speaker 2

Wheedye's boxes even a step down from that, Wheaty's boxes reserved for athletes.

Speaker 5

Moe Kelly name on the building Reserve for Legends Live seven to ten pm on KFI and on demand anytime on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2

So, of course I enjoy making fun of Moe's ego. Anybody who has mentioned, even in passing, wanting a building named after them, that's fair game. But that's not all there is. Fush, she got one more in there. Let's hear that.

Speaker 6

My doctor put them on the scale and I was at one ninety one and considered obese.

Speaker 4

You're looking at me, am I obese?

Speaker 7

Not at all, not at all. You look great.

Speaker 4

By the way, I'm one eighty one right now.

Speaker 6

Because I always want to have a reference point as to where I was, But I don't obsess. I usually weigh myself once a month something like that.

Speaker 3

Not getting on the scale, if you have one, takes a lot of discipline.

Speaker 6

Oh it's a lot, because I know it could ruin my day. Now, I don't feel so bad about getting on the scale last week. Feel a little better about myself. I gotta say, I think you're looking a little pear shaped. Oh, boy, the FCC is saving you right about it. So that's our love language.

Speaker 4

It's what we do.

Speaker 2

It's how men express affection for other men, apart from putting our hands on each other's thighs. Also, Mo and Tuala a couple of world class fellow nerds, even if Tuala doesn't like the original Star Trek, and even if Moe is unable to appreciate the beauty and profundity of the old David Carrety in Kung Fu series. When you love people, you accept their flaws and you mock them relentlessly constantly. I say, we're off and running, Tiffany, how are you feeling, Mark?

Speaker 7

I love you flaws in Pau.

Speaker 2

Well, don't make me cry. Then my goal is you get through the whole three hours without crime. It's Friday night. Let's get this party started. Did I do this right? Have I?

Speaker 1

Oh?

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're even getting the timing all correct. Well, now to the KFI Twitter. No, let's tease the next segment first. Sure, we're still getting used to this when we come back. Have you been groped in the produce department? Anyone can give your melons a non consensual squeeze? Well, stay tuned.

Speaker 5

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2

On to our next story, has this person grabbed your honey ham while shopping at the South in Los Angeles location of Ralph's on sell Vermont Avenue. Apparently a woman was browsing the spice Atisle Sunday morning on August twenty fifth, when a stranger allegedly grabbed and squeezed her buttocks before quickly walking away. And I didn't realize that this was an issue, but we have some audio from the woman.

Speaker 4

Let's play that please.

Speaker 7

I felt violated.

Speaker 8

I couldn't believe this was happening to me.

Speaker 9

While shopping at Ralph's at twenty six hundred Seals Vermont Avenue in Los Angeles, this young woman was rousing the spice atile on Sunday morning it when a stranger suddenly grabbed and squeezed her buttocks before quickly walking away.

Speaker 7

I was mad. I was very angry. Angry would be the word to best describe it.

Speaker 9

She let Ralph's employees know she had been touched inappropriately. Security told her the man was still in the store, so she waited by the exit to confront him.

Speaker 8

It happened so fast that I just remember just straight punching him in the eye.

Speaker 7

He never said a word. He never said a word to me.

Speaker 9

The grouper got into a car with another man and left before police arrived. Turns out this woman wasn't the only victim.

Speaker 8

There was an elderly woman that was crying, saying that he had hit her on her chest.

Speaker 9

This is the photograph taken of the man as he walked away.

Speaker 8

I am very hopeful that someone idez this victim.

Speaker 7

The jacket he was wearing is very very unique.

Speaker 8

His hairstyle, his glasses.

Speaker 9

She also hopes to encourage women to stand up for themselves.

Speaker 8

To educate women that we don't have to be silent when we get sexually assaulted, because it happens far more too common than we think, or even far more than it gets reported.

Speaker 2

Now, Tiffany, has this ever ever happened to you in a grocery store? Because I go late at night, I'm a guy, and people stay away from me.

Speaker 4

I think people fear me.

Speaker 3

No, you know, I'm fortunate that this hasn't happened, and I can't say that there's any one reason that I'm exempt from this having hadn't having happened to me. But I do notice that there are people who might linger a little too longer, people who might make you uncomfortable. But fortunately no one has ever touched me. I've been I've had things said to me. I've had verbal assault by definition I imagine, or at least been made to feel inappropriate,

But fortunately no one has touched me. And the really tricky thing too about this is the victim here says that she hopes that this suspect can be id'd by their jacket.

Speaker 7

The picture that was released of the suspect is.

Speaker 3

Just a back or a photo of his back of this unique jacket.

Speaker 7

There's no frontal image.

Speaker 3

There's no real specific description of this person. And it's like, of all of the time, when we have so many cameras, Mark, how can you not get a photo of this guy?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Grocery stores are like with surveillance. I mean, they can catch you if you put a piece a pack of gum in your pocket, but they cat catch somebody who gropes women. I mean, these are things that most men never have to deal with. However, I've had women in my life, including my mother, who have had all sorts of things like this happened to him. I can only imagine the horror of being violated like that period, but in a public space particularly, so I would never

dream of making light of this kind of thing. But I'll sell you one thing that it makes me think of is that, good Lord, times have changed. Like when we were kids watching the Animal House movie and Otters walking around in the store and he sees the dean's hot wife and he holds up a cucumber and waves it suggestively at her. We don't do those things in real life, and times better not. Don't wave produce, don't wave an egg plant at people.

Speaker 3

Please do not suggest any sort of produce at any woman, or any person for that matter.

Speaker 2

But it just seems so extreme to me, to the point of being mentally ill, that you would even touch a person you don't know in public. And like I said, most men have never had to deal with that, or if they do, it's just you know, guys elbowing each other and stuff. And so women have to run this gauntlet of unwanted attention and behavior and violation that we just never have to deal with.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and this is at USC. I've been to this Ralph's grocery store. It's on Vermont and Adams. It's a very densely populated area. Students use this grocery store religiously.

Speaker 7

It is constantly crowded.

Speaker 3

And so to know that this sort of act happened during a very likely populated time, More than these two people were likely touched or approached. It's just that this this woman spoke up about it. So this person hasn't been caught. Where else are they in the city? And then all, so, why grocery stores? There are so many questions, Yeah, there really are.

Speaker 2

The other thing that makes me think of is that all sorts of behavior that was programmed into us by movies and TV and other entertainment and real life, you can go to prison for it. Like the things in romantic comedies that you would have seen in the eighties. Most of that's stalking. Yeah, Okay, if John Cusack stands outside your front door holding up a boom box, you're gonna call the cops on him. It's not going to melt your heart and make you want.

Speaker 4

To get with him?

Speaker 7

Is it John Cusack of then or John Cusack now?

Speaker 4

Is there that significant difference?

Speaker 7

So there's a huge difference I'm in.

Speaker 2

I'm not prepared to make that choice, but I'll defer to you on this. But all sorts of things that we would see in these old movies, normal people don't.

Speaker 4

Like.

Speaker 2

You don't go to sleep on someone's front porch because you're love sick for them. You check yourself into a facility, and you especially don't touch some without consent, somebody that you don't know in a grocery store. Now, I've been in grocery stores where I thought, Okay, I think I'm kind of getting cruised here by a female or a male. I have no interest in talking to this person, because that's not normal to pick up somebody in the grocery store.

Speaker 10

I'm just you know, you should see how far it goes. Andrew Caravella. Ladies and gentlemen, it'd be an interesting experiment. Has this happened to you, Andrew? No, I'm not that lucky.

Speaker 4

Hey, God, we've got him here.

Speaker 10

Let me. Most people avoid me in the grocery store because I'm the one. Like when people take showers and read the ingredients on the back of the shampoo bottle, that's me in the grocery store reading it out loud. And then talking to myself on Aisle five on what I need. I say what's in my mind out loud, so people think I have an imaginary friend next to me, so they just avoid me.

Speaker 2

That will act as a current Tiffany. On the rare occasion that you do get unwanted attention, how.

Speaker 4

Do you deal with it?

Speaker 10

Uh?

Speaker 7

You know, I'm polite. I've always been polite.

Speaker 3

I take compliments for what they are, and if something is beyond the pale or is obviously making me uncomfortable, then I'll say so. And I do it with again a directness, but a politeness. It's a teaching moment. I'm an educator. Everything is a teaching moment. To my chagrin sometimes, but yeah, I don't let things bother me as much.

Speaker 7

It's just not enough energy for me.

Speaker 4

Do you carry mace?

Speaker 3

I I'm gonna say publicly on the radio. I carry a lot of things. So try it if you like, to try it, if you want.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I feel like more and more in the Year of our Lord in twenty twenty four, we must be prepared for violence in public in a way that we weren't before. And I don't know what the reason for that.

Speaker 7

Is, especially at the grocery store.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I just tear like people's IDs have been unlocked. And so I go to the grocery store after I get off here at midnight every night, and it's a different Ralphs and it is just a Felliniesque cavilcade of characters. And so I think I mentioned to Moe a few nights ago. One time there were a couple of hookers in front of me, and Moe was trying to ask me, well,

how did you know they were hookers? Well, short of holding a neon sign that said prostitute flashing, it was fairly obvious by the way they were addressed and how they behaved they were hookers. And they tried to shoplift a bunch of stuff, and so there was a big thing with them.

Speaker 7

How where do you how do you shoplifts as a prostitute? You're wearing minimal clothing. I imagine, what are you?

Speaker 2

I don't I don't want to know where they put the stuff. I just wanted to back away from the situation at that point. But you know, also, you know, it's right around one o'clock when I'm wrapping up there and there are people trying to get in and there's a guard at the door, and it turns into them taunting each other like they're on either side of a fence.

Speaker 7

Nothing good after midnight but the but.

Speaker 2

I've never been grabbed. Nobody's ever grabbed me in a grocery store.

Speaker 7

The night's still young.

Speaker 2

Well, one can hope. And I mean, as you get older, you're wondering why isn't anybody grabbing me? But I said I wasn't gonna make fun of this. When we come back, we're gonna get just a hair more serious and heartfelt, with a nice letter that we got from a listener after Moe and I had an exchange, and that's coming up.

Speaker 5

You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2

Mark Ronner in from MO. I'm usually in the news booth, but we swapped chairs. Joined by my pal Tiffany Hobbs tonight. Thanks for being here, Tiffany. How are we doing so far? Are we doing okay?

Speaker 4

So far?

Speaker 3

We are doing really well. I was looking under the table. I don't see any leakage.

Speaker 4

Well, thank you. That always a good sign.

Speaker 2

So Mo and I often talk of the out of control homeless problem around LA and it wasn't much different in Seattle, where I worked before I came here about six years ago. And like any matter that has some complications and some nuances, it doesn't so much lend itself to SoundBite wisdom or easy solutions. We're not going to solve homelessness in seven minutes here. But where I always come down, and I believe MO as well, is that there's more to the issue than I don't want to

look at them, get them out of here. We keep reading figures like sixty percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. We know losing a job, or having a medical problem, or just getting your rent raised can be catastrophic. We also read constantly about how many Americans don't have enough money on hand to deal with something like a four hundred dollars emergency expenditure. This can really sink a person in short order. So not only could it be any of us who just have a run of bad luck.

I've had some scrapes. I mean, I've been a freelance writer in between full time media jobs, and there are times when being a freelancer can slow down to the point where it looks an awful lot blake being unemployed.

Speaker 4

But also, I'll.

Speaker 2

Tell you, as a journalist, I'm also hardwired to side with the underdog and never ever punch down. Sure, there's a lot of addicts and people with mental health health issues who are homeless, but that's not even close to being the whole problem. So after one of our discussions one night a couple weeks ago, I got this email from a KFI listener, and I'm going to read it to you, not going to read the person's name.

Speaker 4

Here we go.

Speaker 2

The email says, I'm not sure if this is a valid email, but here I try. It's been weeks now and I've wanted to reach out and thank both you and MO for speaking truth and wisdom on being homeless, which is something I've been experiencing. And my main contributing factor is that companies in California do not want to hire anyone over forty. I'm fifty seven. It's been humiliating and devastating living in my vehicle after I used up all my savings in retirement just to survive, never really

realizing or expecting to be so low in this. It literally made me cry because hearing you both speaking on the matter, you get it and it gives me a voice. All it takes is one bad incident, and without an income, no one can survive. We are not all mentally ill or addicts out here. I am a professional that lost my gripping when COVID hit. I want nothing more than to work, yet it does not come. I keep the faith and trust my heavenly Father that he knows what

he is doing and his timing is perfect. Some days I stumble and lose it because I'm frustrated. Anyway, Thanks for reading this, but mostly thank you and Moe for speaking common sense into this for people to hear and understand. Came across like I finally have a voice. No one else get in the funding to help the homeless as a clue you and MO do it means more than

you know what a nice letter. And I'm not going to read the person's name because I want to respect her privacy unless I get permission to talk more about her.

Speaker 4

And we may next week.

Speaker 2

The upshot of all this to me, though, Tiffany, is that when we're talking about homelessness and when we see stories about homeless camps getting swept, we've seen a lot of that lately, or r vs banned from streets. I think we can all afford just show a little kindness and some decency and humility as well as some intelligence, and not just get them out of my sight, because first and foremost, get him out of my sight isn't the plan.

Speaker 3

Right, And we were talking off air about this. One of the most sobering realizations I believe is that many people, especially Angelino's and people in southern California all around the country, really are a couple of paychecks, maybe two, maybe three away from this sort of abject disaster, from homelessness, from housing, insecurity. And when we look at these stories, often there's a disassociation.

We look at it as them versus us problem, when in fact it is right there at the doorstep of many of us because of inflation, because of how high things are, the cost of living. We live in one of the most expensive places in the world.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it makes me think of that old Sam Kinnison routine where he first broke on the scene, and it was hilarious, but it was also I mean, it's not a thing that a real life adult would ever think. He's talking about the starving children in Africa and he starts screaming, send them luggage, Send them luggage, because why don't you go where the food is right? But that's kind of gallows humor comedy. In real life, that doesn't work.

These are people and they have to exist somewhere. Stuff we don't like or find inconvenient doesn't just disappear the to the cornfield. In that Twilight Zone episode where the kid wills people away, I think the episode is called It's a Good Life.

Speaker 4

With Bill Moomey.

Speaker 2

You can't just will people away if they're inconvenient, you don't like them, you want to you don't want to look at them. And I keep on coming across signs of how things have changed financially for people, like how our parents or grandparents on one income they could buy a house, they could take the family on a vacation every year, they could send their kids to college. That does not exist anymore. That is a fantasy that none of us, well most of us don't have access to anymore.

Speaker 4

I mean, do you. I certainly don't.

Speaker 3

Oh got no, Oh got no. And I have more than one income, and that's a necessity.

Speaker 9

You know.

Speaker 3

Radio is great. Radio is a supplement. But I have to have more than one income to be able to maintain my livelihood. And I'm lucky that I do have that, and I'm only supporting myself and it's extremely difficult.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you're not kidding.

Speaker 2

I mean I've got the lousiest career radar of anybody on the planet. I started off in newspapers, which are all well known for being lucrative and stable.

Speaker 4

Actually they're going extinct.

Speaker 2

So when I first started at newspapers, they have like their own cafeterias, and you could have assistance to do things for you.

Speaker 7

And is this madmen?

Speaker 2

Well yeah, yeah, but now they're all pamphlets and working with skeleton crews. I moved from that into comic books, and that's so dire that it doesn't even bear discussing. There's only being a professional and making a living in comic books as a writer. I think there was one stretch of a few months where I was writing two separate titles once and I was doing okay, but still it wouldn't have taken much from me to be dumpster diving.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and again, I think a misnomer, a common misconception, and you touched on this, is that homelessness is due to some sort of extreme failure on the person's part. Of the individual's part, it doesn't take into account things that are out of their control.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and so radio. I've done most of my life off and on, and I started at KFI after I wrote Law and Order video games for NBC Universal, and abruptly that department was just disappeared. They decided, well, we're not going to be in the mobile game business any longer. And I did other writing. I wrote more comic books and did some more freelance stuff. But all those people, I didn't stay in touch with them. I have no idea where they all landed. Because it's hard for people

to get a job normal circumstances. But then when you get to be forty and fifty, god forbid sixty, there is a lot of agism going on in employment. They want people who are young and will go that extra mile and essentially do work that they're not paid for. So you see this language in the ads, like we're looking for a superstar or real go getter, and you don't need to have the Enigma machine from World War Two to decode what that means, right.

Speaker 3

Right, And this directly correlates to the idea of underperformance being a reason for closures, when in fact it is in fact that corporate greed. We did have a bit of a discussion about this, and I know there are quite a few businesses that have been suffering from closures

because of different reasons. When you really look at the origin of it all, it's to pad the top, it's to pat the top, and the people at the bottom are getting that short end of the stick, and those people then could suffer from these sorts of housing insecurities.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So, like I said, we're not going to solve homelessness in one segment on the radio, but I really think we could stand to approach it a little bit more kindness, humility, you know. There but for the grace of God, I mean, we're all a couple steps away from it unless you are fortunate. When I hear people talk about homelessness, one thing that I almost never hear is the acknowledgment fortune plays in people's lives. All right, we're going to break it off there when we come back. We're going to

talk about nudism. So you're not going to want to go anywhere.

Speaker 5

You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2

Well, nudism has been in the news this week, and some very serious, fairly serious news to start off with, and then we're going to move on to the subject in general, because this is a little bit grim. Seventy three year old Stephanie and Daniel Menard, aged seventy nine, were reported missing Sunday by a friend after their unlocked car was discovered near their home in Redlands. A tip led investigators to a neighbor of the Minards at a nudist resort, and the neighbor was arrested after his home

was torn down in a swat operation. A little grizzly here, so trigger warning. Authority said human remains were found in bags in a concrete bunker Friday under the home. This is awful, and we're not going to linger on this particular case except to note that it's been in the news. Thoughts, of course, with the families of these people also in the news earlier in the week. Something slightly sillier. I guess a guy wandering around naked terrorizing people in neighborhoods.

Speaker 4

I think it was in Englewood.

Speaker 2

I guess I should have looked it up before we went on the air, but he was reportedly how do I say this, Well, he was masturbating in people's yards, and good for him for finding the focus. I don't think I could be successful doing that. But apart from that fairly offensive. You know you don't want that in

your yard. So I want to shift from the tragedy and I just want to talk about the nudism thing in general that we're seeing more of lately, because I don't get it, never gotten it, And I'll go you one even further. When I hear about like famous people who we find out are nudists, it completely changes everything I think about them.

Speaker 4

Robert A.

Speaker 2

Heinlein, the sci fi author, was a famous, infamous nudist.

Speaker 4

That's right, the.

Speaker 2

Guy who gave a starship, Troopers and Strangers in a Strange Land and well time enough for love, I guess lends itself to that. But a nudist. Can you ever not think about that? When you hear his name again?

Speaker 3

I think most newdists would fit that profile. I think there was such a thing.

Speaker 2

I've got very limited experience with nudism because everything about it terrifies and repels me. One summer when I was in college, a friend of mine. A friend of mine drove an ice cream truck and Spokane, Washington, not a place known for beaches, not a place known for people who really take great care of themselves. But he would come and pick me up this summer when he went to the one nude beach by some river in Spokane.

And let me tell you, the people who want to be naked in public are never the people you want to see naked in public. They I mean, we're all different. None of us is perfect. We don't all have personal trainers and that kind of stuff. But in the name of God, have some consideration for us. I mean, I've got hang ups that maybe a lot of people don't have.

But these people who came up to the ice cream truck to order things, with all their stuff hanging out in front of God and everyone, I just didn't grasp it. I didn't understand it. I didn't get the satisfaction that they felt from it. So some guy who at the time, well, I mean, if I was in college, I was want maybe twenty twenty one years old, and what seemed ancient to me at the time, the guy must have been fifty.

He looked like a leather handbag. He looked like, first of all, if you're going to be a nudist and be outside you sunscreen, is that too much to ask?

Speaker 3

I think it's a requirement that you do look like a leather handbag.

Speaker 2

So the guy, and I'm not saying this just to be crude, the guy comes up and orders a box of big sticks because he wants to just walk around and distribute them to people at the nude beach.

Speaker 7

Oh there you go, just.

Speaker 4

One of the night.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much, fush Andrew. You said you had some experience with nude beaches, and I hesitate to ask you because I don't know where this is gonna go.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I was.

Speaker 10

I was trying to do a tour of one, but I only got to the front gate. They wouldn't let me in.

Speaker 2

What did you make of that? Did you take that as a personal rejection? Did they scope out the goods and then say, sorry, you're not cutting it is.

Speaker 10

The time for the news yet?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 2

No, no, but how did this see?

Speaker 4

Now? Everything I say sounds I feel.

Speaker 3

Like looking from the front gate is problematic in itself. You maybe shouldn't have been doing that. That sounds kind of like gawking well, let's be clear.

Speaker 2

Was this a velvet rope type of situation where they waved somebody in It's like, no, not.

Speaker 10

Oh, I mean it was before drones, you know when I did this, So it's not like I could just you know, peek over the uh get a peep show, you know, over the fence. So I was trying to get a tour of the place.

Speaker 4

Why were you trying to do this? I was curious.

Speaker 10

I think everyone's curious about things that are considered taboo.

Speaker 4

That's it.

Speaker 10

You were just curious. Well, it's not like there was a back door. It was the beach careful. Uh.

Speaker 2

Yes, we were talking about somehow Earlier in the week we got on the topic of people having sex in public. And once a number of years ago, I was writing something science fiction horror story action thing that involved an alien virus that was transmitted through people having sex and tRNS them into monsters. Now you know too much, But I had this idea that I wanted to go to the one sex club in Seattle to do research for it.

But there was no way I was a getting naked, No way I was gonna let anybody touch me, and I certainly was not going to touch my stuff on anybody else's stuff and let them touch me. But I've had friends who have done this, and I just cannot fathom doing this. Of course, Eu Tiffany have had tons of experiences.

Speaker 7

Don't gesture at me. I don't want any part of this. I you know, really quick.

Speaker 3

When I was a kid, family was taking a little vacation. Stepfather at the times truck drivers. We went to some different places in the PNW Pacific Northwest and we happened to pawn when I was about four years old, a nude beach and people were running foosh, I know, for a running from each other. I mean they were running, by the way they were jogging.

Speaker 2

If you're naked, really exercise caution while running. You don't want to run.

Speaker 3

They were just frolicking. And I was four and I saw this.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there's a short list of activities you don't want to do naked. In Seattle, there is an annual Solstice Parade, and part of the Solstice Parade is nude bikers. And let me tell you something, even the best looking people on earth don't look great naked.

Speaker 4

When they're hunched over on a bike.

Speaker 3

There's not a great look there's a nude bicycle marathon in New Orleans. They do that during the summer, and you just think there are conditions that are probably not good at all for that sort of thing.

Speaker 2

No, no, and so, and they wear costumes while they're doing this, they wear body paint, and it's just it's not a position that's flattering to the human body in any case. But when you're naked, it's all right out there. So all I'm thinking is, well, I think Wonder Woman could send to do a few crunches, but I don't want. I'm not here to body shame anybody. I'm here to body shame everybody because it's disgusting. Now, here's one last question. We're coming up to the break here. What's the deal

with volleyball and nudice? Why is it required that they play volleyball?

Speaker 7

Look at the time, Wow, look at the time.

Speaker 4

Push.

Speaker 2

You are a nude volleyball player if I've ever seen one. What's the answer to this?

Speaker 10

You know, I don't think I could answer it better than and you probably could.

Speaker 4

I'd never done it. I'm too inhibited.

Speaker 2

Even when I was in the best shape of my life, there was no way I was going to do anything like this. But I'll tell you one thing, And I've never talked about this before. So people who know me are listening, this is gonna be the first time they're hearing it too. When I was a teenager, I'm not sure how old I was, maybe fourteen ish, I went to a science fiction convention in Moscow, Idaho. Young nerd

Life star trek. You know, take my allowance money and buy like a book or an enterprise toy or something like that. Well, I don't know if you know this, but after hours at these psych fi conventions, it gets pretty racy. Lot a lot of hookups, a lot of a lot of backrubs, a lot of a lot of look.

Speaker 10

At the time, Oh no, no, no, I'm not done yet. That's terrifying town.

Speaker 2

So one of these I happened to wander into a naked jacuzzi party and you got to strip down. But at fourteen, you don't have control over everything. So let's just say I found myself having to hop fully into the water quite a number of times as a teenager. You know how biology works. I should have just left, but by the time I knew I had to leave, I wasn't going anywhere.

Speaker 7

This is where therapy comes into play.

Speaker 2

Yeah, thank god you're here tonight. Okay, later on in the show, coming up an hour two, right after eight o'clock, we've got a great surprise special guest. After that we'll have the Runner Report, and in the nine o'clock hour, we're going to be doing name that cult movie classic, just like if Moe were here, but with slightly different movies than Moe might have chosen. You're listening to KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1

You've been listening so later with Mo Kelly. You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty seven pm to ten pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app

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