KFI and six for It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And if you've been listening to KFI, you know what is going on. But if you haven't, here's the latest. A dispersal order has been issued at UCLA. There's a considerable law enforcement presence on the campus and in the surrounding community, LAPD, LA Sheriff's Department and other agencies.
We're going to monitor the events there throughout the evening. And as I've said before, and I'll say it again, you always got to be more concerned as the sun goes down. But I want to start off tonight by pulling back to talk about where we are big picture. Then we'll drill down locally UCLA, USC and so forth. But the University of Wisconsin Madison and Fordham
in New York checked in with their versions of protests and encampments today. Overall, more than fifty colleges and universities around the country have had varying levels of protests every quadrant of the country north, south, east, and west. More than fifteen hundred people have been arrested. How many of them were actually
students, I don't know. We don't know how many were outside actors the same I don't know, and we don't know, But I said at the beginning of the week that USC and UCLA have up until this point kind of followed the same general trajectory of escalation that was happening on the East coast. It would happen on the East coast, and then it would filter to the
west coast. That's what it seemed like was what was happening. That trend, or at least that's what I'm gonna call it, continued with this outbreak of fights and fireworks, I mean literal fireworks which were being used as weapons against the encampments in front of Royce Hall on the UCLA campus in the middle of the night, turning Wednesday morning, to which Governor Gavin Newsom, in the wake of these protests and growing campus unrest, released this following statement today.
It read quote, I condemned the violence at UCLA last night. The law is clear. The right to free speech does not extend to inciting violence, vandalism, or lawlessness on campus. Those who engage in illegal behavior must be held accountable for their actions, including through criminal prosecution, suspension, or expulsion. Close quote There was also a question as to when law enforcement LAPD was called and how long it took for LAPD and or campus police to respond
to the fights and unrest on the campus. That's still being sorted out. That's less of mind concern tonight, but the university has though, canceled classes for the foreseeable future. I think they might even be done with finals at this point or maybe by the end of the week. Royce Hall will be closed through the end of the week and Powell Library will be closed through the week and into the weekend, maybe opening on Monday. That's UCLA and we'll
come back to that across the city. Here's USC's latest update to the university website regarding commencement. Quote. With the new safety measures in place this year, the time needed to process the large number of guests coming to campus will increase substantially. As a result, we will not be able to host the main stage ceremony that traditionally brings sixty five thousand students' families and friends to our campus, all at the same time and during a short window from eight thirty
am to ten am. We understand that this is disappointing. However, we are adding many new activities and celebrations to make this commencement academically meaningful, memorable, and uniquely usc including places to gather with family, friends, faculty, and staff, the celebratory releasing of the doves, and performances by the Trojan Marching Band. Close quote. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to laugh at that, but usc, you do know what's going outside, going on outside
right now? Right? You do know that releasing some doves and kicking it with the marching band, albeit traditional in nature, probably do not a meaningful commencement make you know that? Right? Well? Evidently not so. Then let's ask what happens. Now, Here's what happens. It probably gets worse before it gets better. The outside actors, the political grandstanding, the insincerity
as to caring about either side of the protest, will only grow. And let me just very quick touch upon what I see as the politics of the moment. The Republicans, they don't give a damn about anti Semitism, because if they did, they would have responded differently in every single previous instance, i e. Connected to Donald Trump, connected to Charlottesville, connected to Elon Musk. We can run the list. The Democrats, they don't give a
damn about GAZA. They're desperately trying to keep these protests from destroying their election plans in November. That's all they care about. Politicians only care about the politics of the moment. Squash a protest on one campus, and another one is going to pop up on another campus. Rent to repeat. That's what I expect to happen. Expect this chaos to continue on varying levels all the way up to and maybe through graduation weekend. That's pretty much the expiration date
on all of this. It has to end around graduation. Campus protests with no campuses to protest on, well, they have no future. And I'm going to continue to tell you the truth as I see it and smacks me in the face. I always say, get the easy ones right for me. This is one of the easy ones, and here it is. There is nothing, I repeat, there is nothing which suggests that these protests will change anything at all, not foreign policy, not university policy, not university
investments, not law enforcement engagement policy, absolutely nothing. Can I be more clear? The protesters, although many of you, I guess are sincere, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say most of you are very sincere. Well, you've lost the plot, as they say, You've lost control of the media characterization of these protests. You've lost the moral authority due to the violence in vandalism I warned you about, and here we are having
to deal with with it. I tried to make that parallel, that comparison to the civil rights of the nineteen sixties and why they were more successful than these protests, which are not going to be successful because you've lost control of any message you've hoped to convey, because it's now drowned out by fights, fireworks and self barricades and buildings. Nobody, big picture cares about the supposed message anymore because the news is going to focus on the violence and the vandalism
and the law enforcement response. The message is not going to matter at all because the bottom line, you're not changing hearts, minds, or policies. But hey, I'm not all Debbie Downer tonight. I mean, you can look at the bright side. Outside of everything I've mentioned the protests, they seem to be working wonderfully. Outside of everything I said, They're going exactly as planned. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI ams.
It's later with Kelly. We'relive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Let's go to NBC. They are at UCLA right now. They're hoping that it won't but at this time, you know, we're going to stay sort of a safe distance away. Right now. These are the pro policy and protesters. There are a lot of them gathered up there, and this is we're hearing them being spoken to on the loudspeaker and just letting them know we are prepared if
officers make or try to make entrance into our encampment. That's the very latest here, Colleen and Carolyn, back to you in the studio. Okay, we'll continue to monitor the events at UCLA. If you're just tuning in. There is a large law enforcement presence at UCLA. There is a dispersal order issued to protesters at UCLA. So at this point, law enforcement is making
it very clear that they will not tolerate what happened last night. In fact, they may take the next step and start clearing people out, but they have not said specifically any intention they may have of doing that in the immediate future. But that's why we're going to watch and see what is happening on
UCLA's campus. And if you are following what is happening at USC the student newspaper, the Daily Trojan, if you go to its website, they have an ongoing up to the minute update as far as what's happening on campus, and the most recent post was at seven fifteen pm, not long ago. And these are the student journalists and it says, quote, chaos and confusion reigns at the McCarthy Way entrance, where dozens of people were held outside the
gates for about ten minutes before finally being let in. Mixed messages are making it unclear if students are allowed in or out. A DPS officer, Department of Public Safety officer said they are in stating, I think that don't mean instituting a lockdown, and we are trying, we are not trying to let anyone. There's some grammatical errors there. At McCarthy Way, a professor could be heard shouting at DPS officers asking if they would take responsibility for his student's
grades. And there was one other report which came in just minutes before that. Some protesters have made a long sign reading thirty K thirty thousand killed. Blood on your hands with red handprints on it. That's just a little sampling of what's going on at USC and UCLA. I expect more of the same as it goes into the night. I was saying earlier, you have to
be more concerned about what may happen as the sun goes down. You have these outside actors who are not loyal to the actual goals of the protests. They're just agents of chaos, and they will do what agents of chaos do, and that's create more chaos on these campuses. So keep it right here, keep it on KFIM six forty. We're going to follow these protests and any type of unrest which may come out of them throughout the evening. Even
though we may not be actively talking about it. I'm monitoring it. Stephan's monitoring it in air mix to Wallas monitoring it, and we know that Mark Ronner and the KFI twenty four hour newsroom is monitoring it and also will be
joined once again by Tiffany Hobbs of the viral Load. She if you don't know, she is a USC alum and also someone who has participated in various protests over the years and gives and actually last week gave a great insight as to what happens when you're on the ground, when you're involved in the midst of it. The people who try to intervene, the people try to interlope, the people who try to hijack, for lack of a better word, any type of message, any type of protest, and any type of proceedings
or discussions with the university, regardless of the subject matter. Let me go back to this. As we watch UCLA, we have to watch for a couple of things. The sun going down, and also whether law enforcement makes a push forward. Since there has been an order of dispersal, that says to me, non compliance would lead to law enforcement pushing forward, that would
lead to a further escalation and heightened tensions in the moment. And given what happened last night, it says to me something very similar could happen on UCLA's campus, which happened on Columbia's campus, or which may happen anywhere else or even on USC's campus. And I didn't make mention of this earlier, but Mayor Bass has also weighed in saying that the violence is detestable. She said that people launched fireworks and spread chemical irritants at other people as well as assaulting
them. The Americans Liberties Union Foundation of Southern California set a group of people with bear spray and weapons descended on the pro Palestinian protesters and attack them. And I'm not blaming going back to what I said last segment, I'm not blaming the protesters for what other people did who opposed the protesters. If the people and I say, if if the people inside the encampment were not violent, and then people outside the encampment were violent, I'm not going to blame
the people inside the encampment. But at the same time, you have to prepare for some of these eventualities when you try to encamp in the school and you try to lock down the campus and you try to disrupt anything and everything which is happening on the campus, from school life to final exams, anything of that. So it's going to be very complex. It's going to be very difficult to necessarily separate who is responsible for what as the evening progresses.
And that's why it's really dangerous when the sun goes down, because under the cover of night, people will do a lot of things they wouldn't do in the plane. Sunlight of day. So this is something we're going to continue to watch not only on UCLA's campus, but other campuses around the south Land. We had been watching what had been happening on UCI's campus because oftentimes when you have these protests, and especially with outside agitators, they're not going to
only focus on one campus at one time. And since we know that the majority of law enforcement is focused on UCLA. If you're listening to Tim Conway Junior, he had detailed how the presidence included LAPD, Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, Santa Monica PD, possibly even Culver CITYPD. Well, the people who are bad actors and the chaos agents know that, well, there will be
lesser of a police force present and available for other campuses. So something I'm watching for is not necessarily what happens on UCLA's campus, but whether opportunists will try things on other campuses knowing that there is such a focus in a media sense and also law enforcement response sins on UCLA's campus. It's later with mo Kelly Camfi AM six forty. We are lived everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. When we come back, there is a UCLA survey survey. Get this,
the quality of life rating is the lowest ever for La County residents. You don't say, we'll get into that next. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. And we're continuing to monitor the events unfolding on the campus of UCLA in front of Royce Hall. There has been an order to disperse which has been issued by LAPD. There is a sable law enforcement presence right now on the campus in front of the encampments.
At this point, it's not clear as to what LAPD is going to do with people who do not heed the dispersal order. I was saying last segment, when the sun goes down, you have a higher propensity of agitators and
a holes who may try to create some chaos. That's one concern. And there's also this If we looked at Columbia as a guide, when NYPD showed up enforce in riot helmets and they had a vehicle to help them gain access to the Hamilton Building, a reasonable assumption was after a certain amount of time they probably were going to go in. I would have to say the LAPD, with hundreds of officers on site and also having given a dispersal order,
at some point probably will move forward. I don't know when that time is going to be, but I think it's a reasonable assumption given the presence on campus and given the dispersal order. That's something that we're watching for, we're waiting for, and we're going to keep monitoring throughout the rest of the evening. You don't have to worry about missing any of the information or the events as they unfold. Just keep it right here on KFI AM six forty.
In the meantime, I guess I could share this story from the duh files. There's UCLA survey. Oddly enough, the quality of life rating is the lowest ever for La County residents. And this is an annual survey that measures the quality of life satisfaction and it found that the San Fernando Valley residents have the lowest satisfaction in the last nine years, and satisfaction is the lowest ever
for residents across La County. County wide, residents are, according to the survey, concerned about the high cost of living and housing and the survey was released back on April seventeenth. The survey polled almost seventeen hundred La County residents back in February and March on forty different aspects of life, including cost of
living, education, environment, and public safety. The poll was part of the La Initiative at the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs, which has measured LA County residents' quality of life satisfaction for the past eight years since twenty sixteen. Zev Yaroslavsky, the dress director of the study at UCLA, said, quote, we have two societies here in LA. We have an incredible income gap and wealth gap inequities from A to Z close. Quote. I find
that odd, if only because that wealth gap has always been there. I'm not so sure that it has really extended, given that we went through a pandemic, given that we had a real estate crash in the past fifteen years or so. I don't know if that income gap is worse now than what it was years ago. But I think we all can agree that LA County is as not as good as it could be or as it should be. And before I want to go to this next break, I want to bring
into the conversation Tiffany Hobbs, who just got here at the studio. She usually comes on for the viral load at nine o'clock, but of course, because of what's been happening around Los Angeles and Tiffany, since you are a USC grad, I thought again it'd be good to get your thoughts. You've been watching what has been happening on UCLA's campus. You see the law enforcement presence. Is there anything that you can pick out from what you've seen that
maybe I haven't touched upon? You know, Mo, You've covered it very extensive and comprehensively, and I want to thank you for that because you've been transparent. What I've noticed is that again, the generalities within these protests really set themselves up for a lack of accomplishment. These seven point plans, these demands that the organizations that are said to be linked to students but not confirmed as necessarily being fully comprised of students, are practically impossible, if not fully
impossible, to meet. And I think that that's deliberate. It's gotten really far away from the core of what these protests started as, which essentially on SE's campus, were of course, to highlight the fact that Asna to Bossom was removed as commencement speaker in the last week. Since April twenty fourth, when the first real media coverage of these protests started on SE's campus, we have not heard much of anything about Asna to Bossom. She's been completely lost
in this conversation. And I think that that's deliberate as well. They're deliberate on a part of home delivered on the part of the university, on the part of the University of Southern California, specifically my alma mater, which I believe is allowing essentially these bad actors, these groups to continue to take up space, had allowed in the take up space for so many days when they could have probably shut that down a lot quicker, a lot earlier. Hey,
Kiffy, let me jump in that. Are you saying or suggesting that the university allowed some of these bad actors access to in effect delegitimize the protests on a larger level. I do. I believe that that's exactly what's happening. And to meet the demands of the core group the initial protest, which was to reinstate Asna to Bossom as speaker. Those demands were were logical,
they could be met. They came with and continue to come with a lot of consequences a lot of controversy, but they could be met, whereas these other groups have demands that will not be met, will never be met by the university exactly. And so it feels very much like, hey, look over here at this shiny thing, look over here at this and allow these protests to balloon. And you have these groups and these splinter groups, these
divest from death coalitions popping up all around these campuses. And again, how closely linked are they two students? Do they have a couple of students so they can then claim, you know, the involvement by the university or the bodies in the university, or are these completely comprised up outside individuals And watching the coverage, what's being said by quite a few people on the ground is that on social media as well, is that these members, these organizers are
not students. They are not students. They're on the campus, they're taking up space. They may involve students, but they're not students in mad But is that the university's fault, that the protesters haven't maintained control of their own protests. I think so, But I again I believe that that's deliberate. I think that you the universities. And this is assumption, but this is based off of my experience. I believe that they're making space. They're allowing
space for that freedom of speech because that's regulated. Now that things have gotten out of hand, as we're seeing, as we're expecting it to continue into the evening, they're going to start shutting it down because now it's reflecting on them as not having that control that they want to have. Hey, Tifery,
let me jump in there before we go to this break. There's something that I've noticed, and maybe I've overlooked it, and segueing to UCLA for a second, I have not heard, and this is in comparison to USC. I have not heard that UCLA has locked down the campus in the same way that USC has, in other words, made it virtually impossible for anyone without a student ID to get on the campus or to leave, as what students on SE's campus are saying, and that's part of that confusion that was
talked about in the last newsbreak. Students are not being able to leave. They are on in a lockdown officially and not necessarily over the complete campus. And I'm not saying that necessarily at UCLA. I can't expect it to happen as these protests continue, because how irresponsible would it look of UCLA to not have some sort of shelter in place procedure and stated when just across the city, USC is doing that for the same thing, so it's in their best
interest to follow suit hopefully, But I have not heard that explicitly. We heard that explicitly with Columbia they had a shelter in place order which was given after NYPD moved in. I have not heard that relative to UCLA, So we will look at that and see if that order has been given on a campus university level. It's later with mo Kelly. If you're just tuning in.
We are following the unfolding events at UCLA and of course the other universities around southern California, be it USC or UC Irvine, and seeing what may happen on these campuses in light of the increased law enforcement presence, specifically on
the UCLA campus. An order of dispersal has been given for the campus of UCLA in front of Royce Hall, and we're waiting to see what type of response will be given by LAPD and also LA Sheriff's Department and other law enforcement agencies which are on site for those individuals who do not disperse, So keep it right here on KFI AM six forty. We will be following this story
and everything that comes along with it for the rest of the evening. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty Cami m six forty years Later with mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. As we continue to follow the events on UCLA's campus and USC's campus, regular commentator
Tiffany Hobbs USC alum also joins me and we have a USC update. Earlier, I was saying that the Daily Trojan student journalists are giving minute by minute updates of what is happening on the campus, and I'll give you a couple of them right now. At seven twenty five pm, a DPS Department of Public Safety officer told a Daily Trojan reporter who lives on campus that he is
not allowed to enter. That goes back, Tiffany to what you and I were saying about how we know that USC's campus has been and shut down as far as people getting on and often it seems like it's very difficult for even people who are students who live on campus to get back on campus, Whereas I've not seen, read, or heard the same for UCLA. And given there is this expanded law enforcement presence, how do you read both That USC is locking out students, to which you made mention of last segment, but
we haven't heard of UCLA doing the same. I believe that USC's strategy is born of this chaos. There have been so many people on campus who are not explicitly linked to campus as faculty or student or in any other closely knitted way. So to thwart any sort of confusion, you then lock down everything. Can't come in, can't go out. Obviously that creates a huge problem
for people who are associated with the campus. It's finals UCLA doesn't want to be involved in this mess because it looks chaotic, it looks very disorganized. So I will tifty. But we're already past that point. We have UCLA. It's like, well, the chaos is already here. We have three different law enforcement agencies on our campus right now with a disorder to disperse.
If anything that says that more chaos is coming, I would assume I think so, Moen, But do you remember last week when this all kicked off, LAPD really deferred to USC's Department of Public Safety DPS to handle and mitigate what was happening on campus, and for the last week or so DPS has
been handling it. It continues to handle it as they've discussed internally, whereas it looks to be that UCLA is really looking toward LAPD for the control for that mitigation, and I think then they are letting it fall into LAPD's hands so that it can be put under control, perhaps a lot faster, with a lot less confusion. And I think the goal for UCLA is to eradicate these protesters, to get rid of them as quickly and as calmly as possible.
I don't necessarily see that happening. We're seeing people standing up with bullhorns saying that they will not be moved. So LAPD has a lot more involvement in this one, and I think it will continue as the night goes on. Great point the differentiation between what's happening on campus, who is responsible for handling what's happening on campus at both USC and UCLA. One more USC update before we go to the top of the hour news. It says and this
is the daily trojan quote. Protesters posed with two painted banners as Anna Dami Palastini, a song by Muhammad Asaf that has served as an anthem for the Palestinian cause, play from a set of speakers at the encampment. My first takeaway is that, Okay, there is still an encampment presence on the campus of USC, and I'm not exactly sure why or what is being done relative to these new air quotes encampments on the campus. Do you know anything about
that? I do. USC's Divest From Death Coalition had their second meeting with President Jody I forget her last excuse me, Carol Foult, Carol Fault, President Fault at USC yesterday and during that meeting, they attempted to negotiate Fault and the encampment organizers is Divests from Death Coalition about their terms, and the terms were not met. They wanted to know the group wanted to know endowment disclosure and other things that President Fault wasn't willing to disclose, and they said
that they were going to keep their encampment. There's it's it's definitely a game of chess. It is. It is very organized and they're waiting this out the organizers because graduation is next week. They are wanting to disrupt graduation. They're being very quiet about it, but on campus there is a lot of anxiety about what they're going to do next. Well, we will watch what happens not only tonight at UCLA but tomorrow, as it were with usc it's
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