K f I A M sixty you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app debate and wo he was concerned. This friend of mine is a Democratic consultant. Let's just say consultant. He's been an economist this whole life. And uh, he is sending me all sorts of feedback about this debate. What happens, what's what the future is going to be? Uh, and he is concerned. He says, listen, this is a This has become a circular firing squad within the Democratic parties. They're all pointing,
and they're saying, oh my gosh, we're toast. We got to get Joe Biden out of there. This is this is so bad. That debate performance was the exact opposite of everything that we needed. This is a this is a bad story. Another friend of mine, again on the left side of the aisle, says, talking to a psychiatrist at dinner tonight. Now save your jokes, says pretty grim. It's all over unless there's a
new nominee. They're not alone. The New York Times editorial board headline, to serve his country, President Biden should leave the race, says Donald Trump has proved himself to be a significant jeopardy to the democracy and a ratic and self interested figure worthy of the public unworthy, excuse me of the public trust. They go on to say, Biden said that he's the candidate with the best chance of taking on this threat of tyranny and defeating it. His argument
rests largely on the fact that he beat Trump last time. That is no longer a sufficient rationale for why mister Biden should be the Democratic nominee of this year. As of the debate, the President needed to convince American people he was equal to the formidable demands of the office that he is seeking to hold for another term. Voters cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to
see. Mister Biden is not the man he was four years ago. That from the Gray Lady from the Daily Beast headline opinion, Jill Biden must step up now to help oust her husband. They make the case that he's not going anywhere unless Jill Biden says she's on board. And yet Jill Biden was asked specifically about this Robin you want to play cut two there. This is what Jill Biden had to say, Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. You know all that. Let me ask the
crowd, what did Trump do? Yes? Yes, lie, yes. I always love it when there's a call and response from the crowd and they most of them get it right, but it just ends up coming out like what did he do? And they're like he roh, And she's like, that's right, lie, very good. That's a teacher right there. Good job, class, good job. What about Biden? A lot of people saying he should step aside, but what does he say? If you saw his rally this morning, it was a different guy than what we saw last
night. So, Biden, how did you do? Cut three? Biden? How to go? I don't walk as easy as I used to. I don't speak as smooth as I used to debate as well as I used to. But I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth. I know, I know, I know right from Rome, and I know how to do this job. I know how to get things
done. I know, like the minutes of Americas know when you get knocked down, you get back up. I know what it took to take our economy in the depths of pandemic is where it is today, the strongest economy in the world. I know it'll take to bring this economy to everybody. I don't take to rally the world to stand up against Putin and defend free, to not yield to him, and I know take to keep the world safe and free for the years ahead. Folks, I give you my words,
a Biden. I would not be running again if I didn't believe with all my heart and soul I can do this job. Because quite factory, all right. So there you go. Even when you're listening to that, there are moments that he starts a sentence and isn't exactly sure, but he comes up with the words. We're coming up with the words last night. The energy today was different, the grasp of the words were different. And listen, I talk for a living. I gotta tell you I got good
days and bad days. It's true. There's days that for some reason. In fact, I've gotten off the air before my wife says how's the show? And my wife gets angry with me because I'm very hard on myself. So she's like, how's the show on? I was terrible, and she said, don't say that. I like when you say that, Yeah, it was terrible, and so she's always surprised when I feel like I have a good show. That was the show, and she expects me to go. Yeah. So sometimes I'll feel like I had a really good shoes,
how's the show, and I feel really good of it. I feel really good about that. Oftentimes, the shows I feel good about the shows where I'm able to find the words, the vocabulary I'm seeking comes to me. The days where I feel like I'm stumbling in the blocks are the days that I feel that was not good at all. That or I have technical difficulties, and Mark's been around for most of those. In fact, I think
Mark might be the crap magnet when it comes to my technical difficulties. Yeah, it turns out I'm the one that was born over the Indian burial mound and not the stay s built on it. Yeah you figured that out, Yep, that was it. In fact, Mark said at six twenty five, I remember show started at seven. He said we'll be having tech tech issues tonight. And then and then all of a sudden, I did so. Thanks a lot of Although pretty good generally, right, I mean pretty
good tonight. I feel pretty good about this, just a little echo so far, and what's not fun about that? Come on, listen, it's a voice of God stuff. Yeah right, I told you good, So listen. Here's the deal on this. If we had seen today's Biden yesterday, it'd be a different story. And even in the clip you just heard, you also heard him kind of clear his throat and call right. He said he had a cold. They talked about that last night. He tested
for COVID. No COVID, that's great, But for whatever reason last night, his voice was shaky, it was raspy. It wasn't there the whole time. When he first came out, it was like he was trying to clear his throat but he couldn't. And it just I felt for the man. I felt like it was not there. This idea of replacing him, though. You know one person who's actually worried about replacing him, Nicky Haley. Nicky Haley says, look out, mark my words, Biden will not
be the Democratic nominee. Republicans, get your guard up. She says, I don't know if he's going to be the nominee or not, but I can tell you this. David Axelrod says replacing Biden would be a very bad idea. Cut for go ahead. I just want to say one thing, yeah, especially to you two guys. If for whatever reason, there's a change at the top of the ticket, you guys are in trouble with Donald Trump because the guy who was up there tonight is not a guy who's going
to inspire people. Is He did not show in any way that he has changed from the guy who people don't have a very positive opinion for a lot of good reasons. So it sounds like Axelrod is calling for Biden to be replaced, and he's warning the Republicans. I just don't know that that's such a great idea, because what it does is it starts to show a party
in disarray. If you guys didn't think Biden was with it, why have you been telling us all along that he was right, All of a sudden, you erode trust with the American people, and that is in jeopardy right now. If we see more of what we saw from Biden today at the rally, he's going to be fine. We'll chalk it up as a one
off, had a bad night, whatever it was. But if we see more stumbles along the way, I think this is not only going to hurt the presidential race, but it will crush the engagement and motivation of the base, and that could mean a lower turnout of the polls for down ballot races and propositions. There's a lot of stake this time around, a lot,
so making the right movement now is imperative. And if that means you've got to give the man be twelve shots and hop him up on five hour energy, get to Costco and pick up a case of it, get him going. All right. As much as we've been talking about the presidential debate that CNN had and it came in second in their own ratings, there were things going on this week that are actually a much bigger deal and we'll have a much longer lasting impact, and yet they don't get even half the coverage.
That's next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. In the weekend, they are saying the busiest travel weekend so far this year because we've got the fourth of July and in the middle of the week. That means this weekend and next weekend, and many people are taking the next week off. Help me among them, I am really looking forward to Little R and R. In fact, I was sending Mark pictures. I'm going back to my hometown, and I call it the Malibu the Midwest.
It's just beautiful in the summertime, winter time, it's cool. It's northern Michigan and it is an absolute delight. However, getting there puts you right through the middle of some real redneck maga country. Now I'm not saying listen, we're Trump supporters. I'm talking like the crazies. And I sent Mark pictures and it was like the FJBS, the upside down flags, the
it was pretty insane. Mark, I wasn't look pretty festive. Actually, I wasn't exaggerating when I said there are some there are some people out there that are a little different, and you just you don't see that anywhere else. I mean, it's it's like wwe hits politics. It's wild. But once you get through that, man, I love it. And I'm not even a post having a nice political conversation. But these are not the kind of people that like to converse. They like to tell you how it's done.
I wish I could go with you, oh man, I would love to take you there. Are you kidding me. I would take you. I would take you to all the places we like to show off and and then I take it to hidden places, and I would access your inner redneck. I knew you grow and you grew up in kind of a rural area too, right, I wouldn't say rural. I grew up in Spokane, Washington, which is on the eastern side of Washington State, the sophisticated side.
The western side is where Seattle is, and that's where I worked for quite a number of years before I came here. Okay, Spokane's nice though, but yeah, I guess if you were if you grew up in town, then yeah, you're not rural. So I grew up in a rural area. And so just to just to let you know, my wife is going to pick me up at the airport. She's there right now, and my father is going to watch our dog for the night at their place. My parents are a little bit older, and so they said they would dog
sit for us. My father has asked, this tells you where we are. My father has asked if he can pop by and drop off his new four wheel drive truck and take my old four wheel drive truck with the dog in it so he doesn't get his nice new pickup dirty. And by new, it's a twenty seventeen, So just heads up, we're just swapping out four by force. I think that's heartwarming. Listen. I love my parents, I love going home, And if he wants to drive my beat up
old Ford, he's happy. I'm happy to let him do it. I'm excited to let him do it. I get a little bit giddy this time of year because whether I agree or disagree, I love Supreme Court opinion week. I love it when the opinions come out, you realize how much of an impact this actually has on our lives. Look, whatever a president does for four years, what's good stays, what's bad. The next president can try to undo, or the next Congress or whatever else it is. It's
part of the deliberation process over a long period of time. And I know some of you are going to disagree with, well, wow, yeah but FDR screwed everything up, or yeah but Reagan ruined everything with trickle down economics, whatever your opinion is, whatever, I love the Supreme Court decisions. Although this Court is far more likely to overturn previous decisions than courts we've seen in the past. They don't have the same deference to precedent that we've seen
in the past. Roe v. Wade. And then another one as well that came down called they basically backed off on the Chevron decision, which gives places federal agencies like the EPA or whomever. That's just one agency, and that's the one that came up in question. They give them the authority to make rules if there aren't laws in place, and basically the court said, no, I don't really get to do that. And if anybody doesn't like
your rules and they should have a jury trial. It's a little strange and it could have some implications, but it sounds so in the weeds, right, like legally boring. If we only had forty eight million people watch the debate, which is the political event, I should say the election is the political event. Every four years. It's it's like the Olympics. I can't wait for the next big presidential election. It is the major event in politics.
The debate is as close as you can get to a scrimmage or preseason or if you want to call it a wild card playoff game, fine, whatever. Only forty eight million people were interested. So if we have another how many people voted last year in one hundred and sixty five, one hundred and seventy million people voted in twenty twenty, one hundred and eighty whatever, it was not even a third of the number of people who are going to vote. Watch that debate. How many of them? How many people do
you think are actually paying attention to what the Supreme Court is saying? If you don't even get a third of the people who who are going to watch the Super Bowl to pay attention to the teams before the big game? Using my analogy, how many are watching what's going on with the referees behind the scenes, like nobody. But this is really the importance stuff. This is the stuff that is going to affect you and I a whole lot more directly, Robin, let's go to a cut five here. It's a bit of
a rundown of what the Supreme Court has come up with this time. The Supreme Court has handed down a number of decisions today, significant ones at that the High Court rule to allow Idaho hospitals to provide emergency abortions, overturning a total ban on the procedure. The opinion is similar to a draft that was leaked yesterday. The Court also blocked a six billion dollar settlement with oxyconto maker
Purdue Pharma that would have shielded the company's owners from civil lawsuits. The Securities and Exchange Commission has been stripped of a major enforcement tool. The justices ruled that people accused of fraud by the SEC have a right to a jury trial in federal court. They say in house SEC proceedings that were previously used in civil fraud complaints violate the Constitution. And the Supreme Court is also putting the
Environmental Protection Agency's air pollution fighting plan on hold. The justices voted life to four to reject arguments by the Biden administration that the plan was saving lives. This rule is intended to restrict smoke stack emissions from power plants and other industrial sources. All right, So you get the point. There's a lot of these decisions, Like, you may see more smoke from the smoke stacks. You may see more federal courts getting bogged down with jury trials every time somebody
doesn't like something the SEC does. And it may be harder for the SEC to enforce some of these anti fraud measures. If every time they do, they're gonna have to expend resources to try to run things through the courts. But for the Supreme Court, they're protecting rights of individuals from I guess if you want to argue a tyrannical government, listen, government ain't cheap. It just isn't. Sometimes people use that fact in order to try to enrich themselves.
We still haven't heard about some of these other rulings, and the Supreme Court says there are still more decisions to come down. We thought we were gonna get them all this week. Sounds like we're gonna get some next week now as well, which is exciting to geeks like me, and as I pointed out before, not enough other people. Tragic. All right, it's time to go back to school, but there are going to be some changes, like the teachers hate being there. I'll tell you why next. You're
listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixty. Oh. Is there any nightmare worse than when you're back in school? You ever have that dream back in school? Maybe you're you didn't get your test done, maybe you missing an exam, maybe you showed up to the let your hold naked. There's nothing worse than school dreams. Really, I swear to you. When was the last time you ever had a good school dream? Oh?
I wish I were back in school. Nobody wants them. Teachers are as excited as students to be out for the summer, judging by the results of a state of the Amya Teacher Survey which was released earlier this month. According to RAND, that is the nonpartisan, nonprofit who if I recall correctly, Mark correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Rand the company that had the Pentagon papers written they were stolen? You got me on that one. I don't know the answer. I hope I'm not wrong on that, because then
I'm gonna feel like a real tool. Probably need to go back to school if that's the case. So anyway, RAND found that teachers feel like all three points of pain are about twice the rate of compatible working adults, age bachelor's degree and at least a thirty five hour workweek. Roughly three times as
many teachers report a difficulty coping with the work related stress. So teachers who are in that age range are working at least thirty five hours a week and have a bachelor's degree, they have more stress than other people in that age range working a full time job with a bachelor's degree, So big a teacher is well, it ain't easy. Teachers attribute the majority of their stress to
managing student behavior, administrative work outside of teaching, and low salaries. Base pay about seventy grand compared with eighty eight thousand dollars for similar working counterparts, which prompts a thirty six percent of teachers to consider their base pay adequate as compared to fifty one percent of other working adults. In other words, if you are working age, have a bachelor's degree and a full time job,
there's a fifty to fifty chance you feel like you're being paid okey. For teachers, there's a two what a three chance you feel like you are not being compensated correctly. Very frustrating considering that the many hours are required, with teachers reporting working nine hours a week more than similar working adults for an average of fifty three hours per work week. So for everyone that says you have the good sommers off, I want you to think about this. Throughout the
ENTI higher school year. They're putting in thirteen hours of work per week, which is an average of nine more than most other people. And remember we're supposed to be working forty hours a week. And I know a lot of people, Well, they get to school at seven, they leave at three. That's eight hours, but they're get to lunch in there. They're not working that much now. They are because they stick around afterward, or they
get there early, or they're correcting things on the weekend. The fourth annual Rand State of the Teacher Survey nationally. It's a nationally representative annual survey of K through twelve public school teachers across the US. It's supported by the American Federation of Teachers in the National Education Association, and they presented their findings in a companion survey of other working adults. So being a teacher ain't easy.
I don't know of anybody that gets into teaching because they want to get rich. I think that when you're a teach cure you should be paid a median income. I know it sounds silly, and you go, well, it's pretty close. Yeah, but you gotta have a bouncer's degree. I mean, if you've got a four year education, shouldn't you be above the median. I'm not saying you need to pay teachers a quarter million dollars, but shouldn't you be above the median? I just I've always been a proponent of
teachers, and there's going to come. I'm sure there's a tipping point. I mean, if all of a sudden, all teachers start making one hundred and fifty grand, then I'm going to say, wait a minute, why were paying teachers so much? But I always feel like teachers have a really tough job, and I want to be very supportive of the teachers. I really want to be supportive of these teachers because I think things are about to get ugly in Oklahoma. Did you see what they did? This is got
to be unconstitutional. Although the Supreme Court has ruled that more religion in school is okay, and we know that they're going to be challenged with the Oklahoma law. The Oklahoma laws that all classrooms have to display the Ten Commandments. They didn't specify if that was the Catholic Ten Commandments of the Protestant Ten Commandments.
They have to have the Ten Commandments. Now, Oklahoma state Superintendent is requiring public schools to teach the Bible, saying it is a necessary historical document. Mandate comes as part of a conservative movement to infuse Christian values in public schools, and of course it happens in Oklahoma. The state superintendent directed all public schools to teach the Bible, including the Ten Commandments, in an extraordinary
move that blurs the lines between religious instruction and public education. I want you to keep something else in mind. In Oklahoma, there's a very large indigenous population, which means that you aren't going to be going into schools that are predominantly populated by Indigenous students and teaching them about the historical documents of the religion of the people that many of view as the colonizers that made life crappy.
That means you're gonna have a lot of parents that are not going to be pleased. Not only are you gonna have parents that are gonna be in some of the larger cities, and by larger cities, I mean the two Tulsa and Oklahoma City. But suppose you've got parents of Jewish kids and they're like,
why do you have to teach my kids the New Testament? And they're gonna go it's a historical document, And you're gonna have atheist parents that are going, why are you Remember Oklahoma is the state that had the Monument of the Constant the Ten Commandments outside their state house, and that became a big issue. You're gonna have parents going, why are you teaching my kids the Bible? I don't want to teach I don't I don't want them learning this
religion. I'm okay with them learning about it in a religious class that teaches about Christianity, Islam, Judaism, whatever it is. That's fine, that's informative. But if you are teaching the Bible that's Sundays, we have a place for that. You will have this challenged in the courts. The questioning
is what will the Supreme Court say? Now, A lot of this comes on the heels of the case out of the state of Washington, where there was the coach that was praying with the players and some players felt like they had to pray with the coach if they wanted playing time. The Supreme Court said, yeah, they have an option, they don't have to do it. Louisiana is taking that interpretation. They're saying, well, we put up
the Ten Commandments, but they don't have to look at them. Is Oklahoma going to say, yeah, we have, we mandate that the Bible be taught, but you don't have to take the class. I'm not so sure, especially when the idea is that America's democracy needs to be grounded in Christian values, which is what the people of Oklahoma are saying. Not so sure this one's gonna fly. I think even a very conservative Supreme Court may say, uh, that feels an awful lot like somebody's tax dollars are going to
pay to teach a particular religion. That feels a lot like an endorsement, which I believe First Amendment says no. All right, teachers not getting paid enough. Right, But if you're going to work, you might think I've got my bachelor's degree. I'm ready to go. Hold that thought for just a moment, or as Lee Corso used to say, not so fast, my friend. Why your degree isn't a isn't worth as much as this is next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
All Right, you went to college and you think, oh, this is great. I can go to college. I'm gonna have I'm gonna make more money than anybody else ever, And this is gonna be my life is set well come to find out, you know what, Maybe not so much, according to Society sociology professor at Dukes College, helps, but widespread employment practices that keeps salary information hidden played a larger role for the students interviewed into
the study. Respective employers in a job market frequently high key information like salary range and a detailed job description, which would help graduating students decide which jobs to apply for. That information is not often provided until a job offer is made. In other words, do you want the job, you're qualified for it, Let's go through the interview process. You've come in, We've done the phone and interview, we've brought you into the house in house, and
now we think you might be a good fit. Do you want the job? And you go, well, I mean what does it pay? And they go, oh, it'll pay somewhere in this range. Listen, if I knew you were going to lowball me to start with, I would have saved us both. Sometimes oftentimes what ends up happening, though, is that we end up with a bit of an emotional connection to the place where we're interviewing, and we go, man, I hope we get this job.
I hope we get the job. I hope we get the job. This job was with a com but I've always wanted to work for this job look great in my resume, whatever it might be. And then you end up taking a lot less than you're worth, even if you're fresh out of college. You end up taking less than you're worth. And of course your parents are old school and they say, oh yeah, but you're going to pay your dues, and it's important that you should work for less because you're getting
so much valuable workplace experience. I have this argument with my parents all the time where they talk about my kids. You know, they look at their grandkids and they say, oh, you should just whatever the employer wants, you should give it to him. And I tell my kids, I go listen. You should get what you think you're worth. And if you think that the experience of working in a particular company is worth it, then great, do it. If you don't keep looking, I'll give you an example.
My oldest son, he doesn't work for him anymore, but my oldest son was very excited he got a job with Tesla. No, he listened. He he's an IT guy now and he's working with cybersecurity stuff now, but that wasn't what he was doing back then. Back then, he was basically in the auto industry, and they call it a porter. He was washing cars, he was vacuuming demos, this sort of thing. Right. He was at one of the the Tesla I guess they call hi showrooms,
right, it's not a it's not a dealership with the showroom. So that's what he was doing, and they were paying him bump kiss. I mean, he was young, he had just done his his his boot camp and he was in the Marine Reserves, and he was he had been working at a gas station or something at the time, and so he was all excited that he got to work for Tesla. He's like, I'm working for Tesla. I'm with Tesla. And he loved the prestige of having Tesla on his
resume. But after a while, the prestige of Tesla wore off because he felt like he wasn't making enough money. He thought he was working really hard and he wasn't making anything, and so I said, is it still worth it? I said, I love that you're there. The part of his compensation with stock option, so he took advantage of that which was great sold him before Tesla blew up, but he sold him so it was an exciting time for him. But was it worth it in the end? Nah.
He was young. He was excited about the name, but he didn't realize that the money just wasn't there. So one of the things that students say is they don't know about the money until after the job offer is made. This is one of those situations where and I know what I'm about to say is going to be divisive. Some of you are going to cheer me on, if some of you are going to hate me. But this is one
of the reasons that I think unions are very valuable. It's also one of the reasons that unions are despised by the business friendly right, because they level a playing field and if you're a business person, it feels like you're having your leverage taken away. Well, listen, we've always done it this way
and it's always worked out really well, and our margins are good. Yeah, but the people aren't really being paid with their worth, and so the union knows what they're worth, and so the union negotiats and yeah, but now we're going to pay him. I mean, it would you'd be like the teacher who once turned a blind eye to the kids that use notes on the test. Some of us would have called that cheating. They said, I'm not cheating, I'm referencing. And suppose the teacher said, okay,
you know what, I've noticed that some of you are using notes. If I wasn't clear before, if you're trying to game the system, you may not use notes on the exam. And some of the kids that were using notes with the basically the book copied out of their phones, they started, well, that's not fair. We've always done it this way, right.
That's not to say things can't tip the other way when it comes to the unions, and all of a sudden, you feel like the unions are taking advantage of the companies and it ends up being more difficult for the companies. That certainly happens, we have examples of that in American history. But when the companies are being let's just say koy about the the pay, or they're not really negotiating in good faith on the value of the position, that's not
fair either, not at all. If you do get that job that you want, you do get that great job, you're all excited about it, and you've been working from home for a while, but now you've got to go into the office. There's a chance you picked up some bad habits along the way. So the Washington Post without an article that is supposed to give us an idea. Now the new work etiquette. If you can't spot the jerk, it might be you. If you're doing these things at work,
you're the problem. Some of these things, by the way, are generational gossiping. They say you should gossip more, but you have to do it the right way. They say it's a useful tool for navigating the modern workplace. Use gossip and private conversations to share your salaries with coworkers and find out if you're being underpaid. My parents would never have done that. Never. I don't even I don't like talking about They say, use it to vent
about issues that you're having. If your company isn't turmoil. Gossip is a way to keep up in the latest drama. But avoid talking about people's private lives behind their backs. Don't engage in personal attacks, and know when to keep a secret. Don't be a meeting tyrant, they say, never send a meeting invitation without context or schedule a meeting with when someone is not available.
In other words, you're supposed to basically have an individual meeting with everybody before you schedule a meeting with everybody, to make sure that everybody's going to be available for the meeting with everybody. Oo, okay, this is okay. Listen, Washington Post, you're kind of making me crazy. They say you're annoying your coworkers with your keyboard and your voice. You need to stop hammering on your keyboard mark. They say, yeah, it's you share information
in the right places. Ask people how they like to receive information. This one kind of makes me crazy. I feel like good managers start to figure this out. But ask people how they like to receive information. Some people still shockingly for email, you mean shockingly. Some like Slack or teams, while others want that face to face, whether it's in person or via video chat. Wherever you're responding to or communicating with your colleagues, make sure it's
one they check. In other words, you have to make sure they like it. Yeah, but what if it's one that I don't use? See the problem Catch twenty two, Like when my wife sends me TikTok videos, I don't like to talk. I'm not gonna see your videos, but that's the way I like to communicate. Well, you fail up next. There's no business like Robin. I'm gona let you do it tonight, all right,
there's no business like I think she's asleep on the job. You're not gonna get it, job leaves no. Wow, I would demand my money back if I were you. And the thing is, Robin knows because I work with her on the weekends. Rob and should be right on top of that. She just doesn't care. Wow. Why why? Alright, it's too late now, noone knows now that really you listen, I'm hurt right now. All right, there's no show business like business. That's yeah,
that's nice. Nope, too late, you're dead to me. You've been listening to Later with Mo Kelly. You can always hear us live on kf I Am six forty seven pm to ten pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.