I am six forty. It's later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we'll see if tonight is a little bit different from last night. Hopefully nothing will be happening on the campus of UCLA or USC or UC or WIDN or any other campus in southern California. Hopefully tonight will be quieter for everyone involved, including law enforcement. By now, you know what
has happened with UCLA that encampment. We thought it was going to be cleared out by law enforcement last night or maybe early in the morning, as in right after midnight, but it didn't turn out that way. But before dawn police started cleaning out the encampment. And to see how much trash after the fact was really dispiriting. How much vandalism was there was also dispiriting. But none of that compares to what some of the students had to say in the
wake of police coming in and clearing out the encampment. Here are just some of the protesters who were speaking as police were coming in and during the removal of the encampment. Just off to our left, a gentleman to Peter, a graduate student here at ucl like he was speaking and just a moment ago, Peter. I know you're going through a lot this morning. The fact that you held out, you know, for the duration. What's going through your head this morning is you stand here in your message. Well, now
the whole country knows that fascist thugs will attack students on university campuses. And what was that? What do you say? The whole country knows that fascist thugs will attack students son university campuses, and this how how did the police? Don't get me wrong, police are not above criticism, but how did the police turn into fascist thugs? Because they were doing as they were supposed to do and removing your dumb ass from the campus because it is illegal to
encamp on private property. It's not like you have a right to be there. Now, the whole country knows that fascist thugs will attack students son university campuses in this country and attack attack. I mean, there are some questionable moments of interactions between law enforcement and the general public, but this isn't one of them. And the students will stand up to them, workers will stand up to them. When did you arrive? I've been here the whole time.
You've been here four or five days. Oh, so you've been there four or five days after a lawful order to disperse was given to you and your friends, colleagues, I don't know, classmates, whatever. I've been here two days without sleep because we were attacked two days in a row. Oh oh, so now you're the victim because you were attacked two days in a row. You know why I didn't get attacked. I was at home. I was where I was supposed to be. I was not illegally squatting
in the middle of the quad in front of Royce Hall. And if you didn't get any sleep, that's because you chose to squat in front of Royce Hall. I've been here two days without sleep because we are attacked two days in a row. You're the victim. He's the victim. They're all victims. You got additional supporters here on the steps leading down. What do you think about that? Well, that's great that people in the community are stepping up and supporting Pali sign If that's how you want to call it, okay,
Well, yeah, I appreciate it. This is Peter, a graduate student here at UCLA. We have one more individual speaking how you guys refuse to leave Vegas plan We planned to keep this encampment until the university agreed to our demands. Wait a minute, You planned to stay there until the university gave in. You had no food, you had no running water, you had no right to be there, you had no legal right to be there, But you planned to stay there until U c l A gave in to
your demands. Did I hear that? Right? Told the university agreed to our demands, but you knew that CUSP would eventually move in, right, We didn't know what how the university the police gave you a lawful order to disperse. Did you think that was a suggestion. Do you think that was a hint that was you know they were trying to coerce you, or was it a directive? I think it was the latter. We didn't know what how the university. You just we asked. We sat down today with Darnell
Hunt. I know Darnell Hunt. Yeah, he's been back here before, down today with Darnell asking him to meet us somewhere in our demands and he said he'll work on Okay. Darnel Hunt is a professor. He's not the chancellor, not the president of the university. He's not even the chief of police. With all due respect to Darnell, he can't do anything for you asking him to meet us somewhere in our demands and he said he'll work on it. No, and then and then they sent the police in a stabic
you'll kill me. Oh they said they were going to work on it. Did they set the police in as if you didn't know the police were going to show up, because we all know what is happening everywhere. But there are other students who had things to say. After pro Palestinian protesters on UCLA's campus refused to leave the encampment almost one week since it was established, three law enforcement agencies moved in Wednesday night, conducting an operation that involved hundreds of
officers, lasted hours, and resulted in two hundred and nine arrests. Classes were being blocked off, it was hard to get on campus. But like, I just feel like what the cost of it happening? It's like people got hurt, people got arrested. Like it just wasn't you know what I mean? There could have been a better way to go about it. Wait wait, wait, wait, what is the better way? You were given the order to the spurse, what is the better way to go about it.
They said, please, will you leave? They said you have to leave. You refuse to leave? What is the better way to go about it? People got hurt, people got arrested. Like it just wasn't you know what I mean, There could have been a better way to go about it. I didn't think that the university was going to meet any of the protesters demands. There you go, and they said they weren't going to leave until those demands were met. And oh my goodness, don't they know that
there's no other way that this was going to investor's demands. And they said they weren't going to leave until those demands were met. And so I think the only option was to have the police remove them, because even though I think a lot of people were protesting peacefully, ultimately their encampment was inciting a lot of violence on both sides. Well, there's a reasonable response, but the most important response is the encampment was illegal. You did not have a
constitutional right to remain in a tent on private property. You did not A lot of officers telling us that we were the ones that were being unpeaceful, even though we were like getting ripped away. You know. Yeah, it's been a lot. Honestly, I'm kind of just I'm glad we did it. I don't I We're definitely not done. But I'm just writing out of bed now. I've been up forever. It was chaotic, it was scary. You know, they were unresponsive to the things we would say, Okay,
the police were unresponsive to the things that you would say. Did they have an expectation that they were going to have a conversation with you? Did you think that because you were there yelling at them, throwing bottles at them, cursing at them, saying but making up seeing gestures that they were going to engage you in a conversation. Unresponsive to the things we would say. And it seems like they were trying to destroy everything we had. They traveled
over a tense you know, stop it. They were trying to destroy everything they had. They took all our possessions and didn't care. Were trying to destroy everything we had. They traveled over our tents, you know, everything we had inside. And it seems like, you know, they had no remorse or sympathy for us. They were supposed to show remorse and sympathy for
your illegal encampment on private property. After a lawful order to the spurse, and you had no constitutional right to remain there, And you're complaining about them trashing your belongings and not saying sorry, And it seems like you know, they had no remorse or sympathy for us. I don't have any remorse or sympathy for you. You clearly did not think this through, like you know, they had no remorse or sympathy for us. After being related, some
of us told us getting arrested was worth it for them. Really, what did you get out of it other than a record and a summons and a notice to appear. After being related, some of the students told us getting arrested was worth it for them. It's fine. I mean, we're disappointed that it happened. You know, it's being compared to what the people guys are going through right out now. The students we talked to indicated to us that they weren't sure what's next, but they didn't rule out. Some of
them told us of another encampment popping up on campus later. They weren't sure what's next. They have no idea what's next. They got nothing for all their effort except mad well done guys and gals. Well done. Maybe they'll try again tomorrow. Maybe it'll be different next time. They're given a lawful order to disperse, that they defy and then remain while huntreds of police waited for little roll hours before moving in, and you're saying they didn't show any
remorse or sympathy. Y'all are the dumbest so called smart people. I know, Hi, Mark, you're awake. No, I should be asking you. Are you awake? Oh? Fresh as a daisy? Are you kidding me? I'm fine. You must be exhausted, though. I am exhausted because I was doing a show a lot longer than I had anticipated, and it was on one subject. You know, with breaking news, you don't know how the story is going to evolve. You don't have a lot of
information to disseminate, and your working segment by segment. That's right. I was there for that, that's right. Yes, except you had to wait until three am to go home. Well, I'm kind of a night owl anyway, so that's morning that night. True, I didn't get a ton of sleep, but hey, it's almost the weekend, Yes it is.
You're listening too late with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty six forty is later with Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app And I gotta ask, if you hear that song war by Edwin Starr, do you think about the Vietnam War or do you think about Rush Hour with Jackie Channon Chris Tucker. Definitely not Rush Out for Jackie Channon, not you or me. But I'm looking at producer tianas he said Jackie Channon, Chris Tucker. I
love that movie. I do too, but that's not the reference point for that song. R said the same exact thing, like that reference reminds me of Rush Hour. Oh my gosh, I'm doing a show with children. Children. You can't explain all that away with just age. Yes you can. It's a taste thing as well. No, no, no no, because that's the only time that they're going to hear it. Unfortunately, they're not listening to an oldies channel. Musically, that's about the only time they
would hear it is part of a movie soundtrack. Unfortunately. There are a lot of people who discovered all this great music on the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume one soundtrack, like lou Suade, and that's a good one. In fact, all three of them have good stuff on him. This is depressing, though it is, is it? Thanks for making me feel elderly today. I thought I was going to just play some music, and then I
saw Kenna, like, you know, mouthing along to the words. I'm thinking, like, oh, there's no way in the world she actually knows the origination point, the origin of this song. And then she said, yeah, I love that movie. Oh my goodness. Well, the reason why I was playing it obviously because of what's going on in the world to be serious for just a moment, and many people, for whatever reasons, political or social people were waiting for President Joe Biden to have something to say.
What type of stand would he take, What type of stance would he take? Would he be very critical of protesters? Would he give them a pass? Was he going to like check the tea leaves and the temperature and the direction of the wind to see, Of course, he did, to see what would be most politically expedient as far as how he was going to deliver that message. And me, I'm very old school when it comes to presidents. I'm a firm believer that a president should be not necessarily the moral
leader of the nation, but should be the conscience of the nation. And I believe what doctor Martin Luther King Junior believed that he said that quote. A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus, but a molder of consensus. Close quote. In other words, you're not looking to see what other people may think, may believe, or may feel, which would make you feel better if you can go along with the crowd, but you step out in front because it's the right thing to do. There's never a wrong time
to do the right thing. And this is what President Biden had to say earlier in addressing the protests. Peaceful protest is in the best tradition of how Americans respond to consequential issues. But neither are we a lawless country. We are a civil society. An order must prevail for aut our history. We've often faced moments like this because we are a big, diverse, free thinking and freedom loving nation, and moments like this there are always those who rush
in to score political points. But this isn't a moment for politics. It's a moment for clarity. So let me be clear, peaceful protest in America. Violent protest is not protected peaceful protest is it's against the law, and violence occurs. Destroying property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law. Vandalism, trespassion, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancelation of classes and graduations. None of this is a peaceful protest. Didn't tell
me anything I didn't already know. I don't think anyone is going to change their behavior. I thought it was very middle of the road. It was light condemnation, but it wasn't harsh condemnation, and it was very general. We know he was talking about, obviously the campus protests, but he did not really sit down on his words as I think I would like a president to do. I would like a president, regardless of his Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, George Bush, Bill Clinton on down the line,
want there to be no misunderstanding whatsoever. And now I just think we're in an era in which presidents are so beholden to holding because we live in a twenty four hour news cycle, and they're worried about every word that they say and how they say it. Sometimes I just want you to make it plain. You don't necessarily have to be disrespectful, but just make it plain. And and this is part and parcel of what I expect in a president. I want you to be a grown up. I want you to act
like an adult in the room and set the tone. That's what I want any president to do, to set the tone, an example for what is exemplary behavior from citizens, regardless of whether we get along, and we're never going to completely get along, but there has to be a clear set of expectations of what is within the boundaries of acceptable behavior, what is within the boundaries of acceptable forms of protests and conversations, of how we're going to make
this place a more perfect union. And for all the people who want to say that it's already a perfect country or it's already great, well, no, even the founder said, now, we have a lot of work to do, and that's why they made the constitution open to amendments and updates,
if you will. And also how there are things that they could not foresee in the future, and they were going to be disagreements and arguments, but they set a framework in place as far as what we were to do, how we to do it, how we were to do it, and what was acceptable in the pursuit of it. I needed more from President Biden, but I don't think I would have gotten more from any president at this time the way things are now. Yes, violence is bad, got it,
Thanks for that. Peaceful protests is in the best tradition of how Americans respond to consequential issues. But neither are we a lawless country where our civil society an order must prevail. Throughout our history, We've often faced moments like this because we are a big, diverse, free thinking and freedom loving nation, and moments like this are are always those who rush in to score political points. But this isn't a moment for politics. It's a moment for clarity.
So let me be clear. Peaceful protest in America. Violent protest is not protected. Peaceful protest is. Thanks for that. I didn't know that. I feel like I'm smarter now. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. You may remember back in February, I went to Chicago. It was the end of February and was snowing. I was in a bad mood. And what got me in a really, really bad mood is I went down to the hotel bar, got some food to
go. That's important to go. I got some salmon. I know it was over price, but I was really hungry. The salmon cost thirty four dollars. I posted this on my Instagram at mister mo Kelly, my personal instagram. So the santon cost thirty four dollars when I got the bill, set thirty four dollars on the menu. So I'm thinking, okay with taxes, maybe like thirty seven, thirty eight dollars somewhere in there. I got the bill, it said thirty four dollars for the food, a dollar and
two cents service charge. It doesn't tell you for what another six dollars and eighty cents, which they call a twenty percent auto service charge. I didn't even have a freaking car in the hotel. I ubered to the hotel, and then they taxed me on that total amount. They taxed me on the twenty percent auto service charge and the service charge. There were two different charges, and that thirty four dollars salmon dinner came out to forty five dollars and
thirty two cents. Long story short, was some funky business and some really funky math going on, but that was the emerging way of doing business where you put a price on the menu, and then these restaurants, for whatever reasons, would have these hidden service charges and then all of a sudd but you're paying a whole lot more than you thought you were paying for. Well, that was in Illinois. Here in California, the law is changing and
these surcharges have become illegal here in California. As of July first, it will be illegal for any restaurant in California to add special surcharges to diners' checks. But what's really amazing is some people are okay with it. Listen to this, some big changes may be coming to a menu near you. A decision today by the state Attorney General means there can be no searcharges added to your restaurant. Everything must be included in the price you see on that menu.
Right, as Nbcbay Areas Terry McSweeney found out, it's leaving a bad taste in the mouth of some restaurant owners. Get over it. If you've ever wondered how your check at a restaurant got so high, help maybe on the way. California Attorney General Rob Bonta has ruled that the ban on hidden
fees for hotels and concerts and sports tickets approved by lawmakers last October. Also applies to restaurants and You'll Sellentano Restaurant in San Francisco's North Beach, owner Santo Esposito says he has never charged a hidden or junk fee, such as a percentage for employees' healthcare or higher wages. It's always been right there in the price on his menu. I work myself more. You know, I cut off some employee if I have to, so I work more. So I
don't need to charge people any extra fee. But many restaurants are concerned that adding these surch charges into the price on them and you could cause sticker shock, says Golden Gate Restaurant Association executive director Laurie Thomas. Will that being upfront and center cause people to dine out less. Wait wait wait. If you're not given the opportunity or chance to trick people into paying more, you're worried
about how that may negatively affect your business. You want to be able to have the right to trick and deceive people as far as what they're being what they're paying for, says Golden Gate Restaurant Association executive director, Laurie Thomas will that being upfront and center caused people to dine out less. Yes, please be upfront and center, and if it doesn't go well after that, so be it. And if people continue to dine out less, we do have
a struggling restaurant industry. Okay, let's see this to its logical conclusion.
Mark Runner, I know you know where I'm going with this. Imagine any struggling industry given the right or the space to hide all these fees because they're worried about sticker shock, because they want to add on fees, like the airline industry, where if you should buy a ticket for forty nine dollars going to San Francisco Southwest talking about you, and then all of a sudden you have these hidden fees, and all of a sudden, the price of the
ticket is one hundred and forty nine dollars. It's an outrage, I say an outrage. Actually, I think that you should have been charged to searcharge for the inconvenience to the fishy eight. Look, it was the inconvenience of having to argue and haggle with them and let them know because they asked me when I checked into that hotel. Do you have a car, mister O'Kelly,
No, I do not have a car. And then they still when I went to get some food, when I was going to charge it to my room, they said, they're going to give you the twenty percent auto service fee. Many restaurants, especially larger ones, do charge the so called hidden fees. Owners and managers and restaurants here in northbe computer's tripping bes on camera. But some said it is not going to help. Well, I lose enough money that I have to either lay people off or I can't make
it work anymore. Well, you're gonna have to make a decision, okay, because you're not going to just deceive people. That is not much fault. Can I just point a clarification. Are they complaining the restaurant owners that they're going to be put in a position of hardship when they can't fleece people with hidden fees? You're correct, Thank you for that. Wait, but
there's some people who would rather be fleeced. Listen to this. We have some diners how they like their pricing all up front or tell me later. On the one hand, I like to pay the price that's advertised because that feels good. Someone says it's going to be nine dollars, it's nine dollars for me. I am definitely okay with it being added to the check. I don't need to see that up front. I'm not choosing a restaurant or a hotel based exclusively on price. A lot of it is about the experience.
Oh, you're just an idiot. What kind of Stockholm syndrome is that? Please fleece me, you know what, I don't care. Just put twelve dollars on the menu, and if it happens to be thirty five at the end, I'm okay, because I'm paying for the experience. May I have another? Yes? What the hell is going on here? What is
wrong with people? You know? I don't think that's that unusual. When I go to the store, and now that they have apps where you've got to use them to get the sale prices on everything, I look at my receipt when when I'm on the way out, and if something's wrong, I'll go back. I'll go back to the register. But the long suffering one, my landlady, they don't care. They don't look at that stuff. I think there's a lot of people who would just it's worth not dealing with
the hassle to pay whatever is there. And it's not a matter of whether I can afford it, it's about being dishonest. You're being willfully dishonest by not disclosing and hoping I don't look or don't realize, don't recognize, don't find out that you are asking for like an extra ten to fifteen percent that I didn't agree to pay for. I agreed to pay for going back to the Chicago hotel. I agreed to pay for the salmon. I didn't agree
to any of those other charges which were not on the menu. And notice have you noticed this how indignant people get when you ask them, Hey, what's this right here? Right? Like I'm taking them away from their day? Yeah, Like you're the a hole and I love being the a hole to me, So they know the difference. Oh no, no, no, I have not been. I'm not being an ass yet, but I
can be, so you know the difference. And since we're talking about my money and you deceiving me to separate me from more by money, Yes, I'm not like this woman for me. I am definitely a for me for meie for me. It's all about me, as opposed to for whom, but for me, I am definitely okay with it being added. Well, you're an idiot. For me, I am definitely okay with it being added to the check. I don't need to see that up front. I'm not
choosing a restaurant or a hotel based exclusively on price. A lot of it is about the experience. Okay. Let me just be really politically incorrect and a chauvinistic man here for just a month. Let's relate this to maybe a lap dance or hiring this self employed model for the evening or three hours, whichever is better financially. I need to save you from yourself no time. I'll be all right jumping off this clip. I got got a parachute.
If you go into that situation for the experience, you know, apples to apples, and you're expecting to pay I don't know, fifty dollars an hour. I'm just throwing that out there because I wouldn't know firsthand. Fifty does the person have a full set of teeth? Fifty? If I were to pay fifty dollars, or at least that was the stated contract between me and the talent for that hour, that's the talent, okay. And at the end of the hour and you're getting ready to settle up for the evening,
and she says, well, I have a parking fee. Now this is where a handler busts into the room, and I have a bathing fee, and I have an agent's fee, and that the real price is one hundred and twenty dollars. It's okay because for me, I was just there for the experience. For me, I am definitely okay with it being added to the check. I don't need to see that upfront. I'm not choosing upfront, she said. For me, I am definitely okay with it being added
to the check. I don't need to see that upfront. I'm not choosing a restaurant or a hotel based exclusively on price. A lot of it is about the experience. Yes, the GFE No, oh, I don't know your analogy. They didn't know what that is your analogy. It leads to
some further explanation because you doesn't know. No, you know many a time and we've seen our friends go into certain situations and they've been okay, just letting it ride, even after they've even after they've been told that there's extras in look, but the still look at the time we gotta go to commercial. It's Lady with mo Kelly. Can if I am six forty We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Now, Twala, you had questions regarding the purchasing process and expected payment in a certain commodities market. I just want to make sure that our listeners know that even in the situation you laid out where you may have talent who tries to tack on some extra fees after but that's
a tip, and I understand implicitly. When I know, I if I were hypothetically to go to the club in which talent should disrobe over the course of a musical selection or two or something like that, something like that, I know at the end of it all, if it's not on the main stage where a dollar bills are dispersed, amoiously, yes, yes, feverishly
at times precipitated, correct, correct. If it's not on the main stage and it happens to be in a smaller, more intimate setting near the back, then I know that even though that time maybe twenty dollars hypothetically per dance. I know at the end of it all you know best practices that there is usually a tip involved, which is different from a service charge because the industry standard is a tip. The service charge is completely unknown, and I
make that distinction. But it is not always clear what the price will be. If you should say, want some champagne in this special room, they never say up from hunt here is what the fees would be for some extra champagne. They just say, would you like some in the special room? And you know full well we have several friends in common who will say yes and will not even ask what that fee is. They'll just go on in. Now, see that's that's that's on them. I'll give you an example.
If we were eating at a restaurant. H it has a menu, yes, and if you are so dumb or naive, let me say naive. I don't want to be disrespectful. If you were so naive to just order off the menu with no idea how much the food may cost, and then want to get surprised when they bring the bill, that's on you.
Because when I order out, I ask up front, Yeah, all I know is you have several colleagues who say, if I was colleagues in your previous music industry careers who were show who may know who may have had someone
like me in one of these places, they like me. They may say, hey, twala, even if you don't want access to the room, we need access to your name to be able to write off whatever fee because we have several of your employees, some of the people who work under you, who may spend records, who we need to take care of in this room. This is getting very complicated I'm talking about. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that the fees are not always listed up front, and that
does not stop everyone. What I have heard heard I don't know firsthand. I have heard they're doing it like they're tired of people dining and dashing, so they're taking credit cards up front to alleviate any issues. But it does leave room for misunderstanding as far as what that final bill will be. Can we just establish that there's a difference between a tip and a sh shakedown and when somebody's got you over a barrel, that's really not the best time to
hear. Oh, there's gonna be this extra here. Yeah, and if the barrel, if you're over the barrel and you know, too complicated for you. Oh look at the time. Tonight later with mo Kelly, will be giving away a family four pack. How about that transition to the Renaissance Pleasure Fair in Irwin Dale. That didn't come out right. It's twenty acres of pure fun. Thirteen stages offer a variety of entertainment all day long.
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