This is Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast more what You Hear weekday Afternoons on the Drive, Joshua Piven has been chased by knife wielding motorcycle abandits and that was just his ex wife. Dave Borgenicht has been surrounded by alligators, encountered bears, mountain lions, and lots more. Together, they have teamed up for a book called The Worst Case Scenario Survival Handbook the Apocalypse. It actually came out in nineteen ninety nine. Guys, the original did.
Yeah, this is the latest iteration, but yeah, the Worst Case Scenario Survival Handbok itself appeared in nineteen ninety nine for the first time it has been ever since. And Dave was that didn't have anything to do with turning over the millennium and everybody was scared their computers were going to crash. Yeah,
it actually it was certainly part of that. It was also just our fascination I think with action movies and James Bond film and wondering is that really what you do if you have to jump out of a plane without a parachute, you know, can you catch catch the guy? Can you catch jaws? How do you find up a shark? Really? What do you do if you encounter a bear? What do you do if you need to jump from
a moving car? And and we set off to find experts who had all the answers to that stuff back in ninety nine and have been looking for answers ever since. Have you been making revisions along the way, Joshua, We have. You know, things obviously have changed since the nineties. It was almost the pre internet era, so definitely, you know, things have changed, and we've you know, done other books we've updated the scenario is obviously the new book we deal with AI. We deal with robots, stuff that
really kind of wasn't around back then. So we kind of focus on different apocalyptic situations, so kind of your your normal run of the mill, you know, disasters, super volcanoes and asteroid crashes, and then we also cover, you know, how to defeat the supercomputers and defeat the robots and kind of deal with all the various contagions, but also rebuilding society. So it's
kind of a mix of fun things. You know, it's zombies and it's uh, terrestrial is attacking, but then it's also the you know, the real stuff that actually probably has a greater probably greater chance of actually happening. Joshua Piven, David Borgenik. The name of the book is Worst Case Scenarios Survival Handbook. Apocalypse Uh and josh uh, Dave. Let's start with some of the things you go over in the book, For instance, apocalypse proofing
your finances. You know, there was a time when everybody thought you had to put all your money in beanie babies. Yeah, those they're they're adorable and cuddly. It might help you better bunker. But uh but yeah, No, the first thing you're going to want to do is go back to paper. The digital currency uh uh. You know that we're all pretty much involved in is not really gonna help us. So you want to, first of all, just print out your records online of your investments and make you've
got uh you know you're avoiding digital currency. You want to you want to try to hold some cash, but not convert everything. You want to think about converting your your digital in investments into things like land, into things like
gold and hard goods, physical gold, maybe barbable items. We have a list of barbarable items that might be good to stockpile in the event of an apocalypse or a collapse of the the economic system, and that could help you use have extra currency like batteries and chargers and water purifiers and things that are going to be valuable in the event of a shutdown and Joshua pivot. I don't know if it's because we live in a country where part of the year
the tornadoes are trying to rip the roof off of your house. Part of the year the prairie fires are trying to burn your house down. Part of the year we have snow and ice storms that are trying to freeze all your pipes. And then I'm intermixed with all that as a random earthquake. But lovely wife has me putting safes everywhere just in case in the storm, shelter in the closet. They're all fireproof. I mean, so how much of this needs to be hoarded in your safe as well? Yeah, you guys
do live. We have a little rough over there, you know. I think you know, listen, the safes are I think are useful assuming that they're fireproof. Now, just you know, to be clear, they may protect papers and passports and things like that, but you know, if you have like you know USB sticks in there. Those are likely to be destroyed if there's a lot of heat, so just you keep that in mind.
But you know, we we do recommend taking some of your important things, you know, passports, printing out all your passwords for you know, all your digital accounts, your banks and your investments, having that off printed out ready to go, put it in a waterproof you know that could be in it can be in your safe. But if you're you know, if you
need to evacuate, you have to have that stuff ready to go. So that's part of the part of the list of things that we give you to have in your go bag, and we kind of explain how to pack a go bag if you only have say thirty minutes until there's a disaster. But certainly you know, if you if you have if you have a safe room in your house during a tornado, you know, it's probably a good place to be. But there's certainly lots of other lots of other disasters where as
safe is not going to save you. They are the authors of the worst case scenario survival handbook The Apocalypse, Joshua Piven and David Borgenik Dave. But let's get into packing that go bag. Lovely wife and I have one just because we've been through some of these things that I just described. But what we what we run into is throughout the year, Oh gee, I need some deodorant. Let me go grab some out of the go bag, and then we gradually depleted. Yeah. No, you definitely want to make sure
that you keep it up to date and things expire. I act was given a go back by my mother back when September eleventh happened. Uh, and it's still down the basement. But I do update. I certainly did update during the pandemic. You want to make sure you've got a gallon of water
at all times. You want to make sure you've got protein bars and flashlights, maybe a battery powered radio if you can, If you got that dryer lint actually is useful to pack and for starting fires, lighters and matches, water for purification, tablets, lots of other writems that we lift in the book. But you certainly want to make sure that you're taking a look at it at a regular basis, and you know, deodorant maybe not as essential.
Make sure you've got the fast bags in the work gloves and the small mirror and compass and that stuff and the duck. Take can't forget the duck. Oh, I never never never, Yeah, Dave Borg and Nick Joshua Piven And the name of the book is the Worst Case Scenario Survival Handbook the Apocalypse and Joshua defeating the robot Army. I mean, they're coming for us, all, aren't they. They they are coming. And you know, it's like, when we pick up this stuff, it seems like it couldn't
happen. And then two years later, you know, the police are using robotic dogs in New York City, So this, you know, this this stuff is real and we do, you know, we we talk to the engineers and robot designers on how to deal with some of this stuff. And you know, I think the main thing is they all have a power source. So if you can find the power source and disable it, obviously that's
important. But you know, we take you through. Okay, Well, maybe if you can get sand in the gears to slow it down, right, or you can use tar, or you can you know, get the robot to you know, get it putting stuck in something like wet sand. You know, they have some of them have trouble with scares you can kind of get away that way, although you know, pretty soon, I'm sure the robots will be climbing stairs pretty easily. But you know, we do.
We do cover the robots and the robot army, and you know, the the the source behind it, which may be the supercomputer and you know create by as guy Net and coming for all of us. So yeah, that's that's definitely one of the important things in the future. I think that the most stageous ones are probably the roombas. Yeah, yeah, the vacuums.
The vacuum they look at it. But you know, uh, you know, I went into a super box store the other day and the floor cleaner was running itself, and I thought, the robots are taking over. Yeah, I mean, you know, I go into Giant the supermarket and the thing is like going down the aisles and coming right at me, and I was like, you know, if this thing was weaponized, that's that's next for the shop. That's next for the shoplifters, I think is you
know, they're coming to the shoplifters first, and the supermarter. Well, guys, what about all the robots. I mean, I gotta I gotta admit, we've got two roombas for vacuuming, We've got one for damp mopping, and I've got a robotic lawnmower that has all the kids in the neighborhoods spellbound when it's out there doing its thing. Uh is it a good idea to have all these bots in your house? I think I worry more about the data that's being sucked up and what's being what's being done with it.
I'm not I'm not worried that the room bob is going to vacuum me to death in my sleep, But I am a little I am a little concerned with the you know, the series and the Alexas of the world just mining our data, and you know, they're they're always listening, and who knows where it's going or what's being done with it. And you know, all it takes is one nefarious actor out there to uh, you know, to vacuum the stuff up. Dave, I don't know you feel you feel safe
with your roomba. I mean it comes back to the power source thing. At the end of the day, I can easily pick that up and take the battery out, and probably the same with you know, the simple robots that we got today. I don't think. I suppose some awesome hacker could go in there and try to trip me, but it's not going to attack me. I was being facetious. You know, it might attack your cat, yeah, my dog. It is partially facetious, but for the most
part very serious. The worst case scenario survival handbook The Apocalypse, authors David Borghenik and Joshua Piven, have brought it to us, and I thank you for joining us today. Guys, thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia presentation.