This is Later with Lee Matthews, The Lee Matthews Podcast. More of what you hear weekday afternoons on the Drive. You hear him on the Midday Show with his partner Buck Sexton. Clay Travis is joining us his new book, American Playbook, A Guide to Winning Back the Country from the Democrats. Clay Travis, great to have you along. Hey, appreciate y'all having me fired
up and excited for college football season. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that are the same way, feel the same way as I do. But but yeah, look, that's that's kind of the concept of my book, American Playbook, which is using football in particular as a roadmap for how to build back. I would say a winning coalition as a part of twenty four would you say the Republican and Democrat parties are as fluid as say the Big twelve and the SEC lately, That's a good that's a good analogy.
I would say that Oklahoma is actually a perfect distillation of what I'm trying to do in this book, by which I mean, if you look at what the Sooners and the Cowboys have done, they've embraced a brand new version of college football that certainly has swept across the entire country, But where did it come from high school football? And where did the spread in general arise
from. It came out of the fact that there's really unequal talent in high school football, and you have to try to figure out a way to equalize and or take advantage of what your opponent does. And that's really the entire essence of my American Playbook. Overall overarching scheme is to create a new dynamic, that a new paradigm, if you will, that will lead to a
landslide victory. I feel like, guys, I've just I've watched so much over the twenty first century in politics, and it's like each party is committed to trying to win by a field goal in the final play of the game. And I just don't get it. Why would you not create a game plan that's designed to kick the ass of your opponent as opposed to hope that at the last second you can snag a victory. So that's the entire essence of this book. Well, and Democrats seem to be trying to change the
rules all the time. I mean, you'd swear it was the NFL. Yeah, well, they've also won seven of the last eight elections on the popular vote. And usually, and this is where I think the high school football analogy is so pertinent. Usually the team that is losing is the one that goes back and says, Okay, we have to come up with a new playbook. And we know what the Democrats are going to run, and there's a real advance to knowing what your opponent is going to do. They're
cocky, they expect to continue to win. The Republicans have the opportunity, if they are smart and strategic, to put in place not only a new system, but a new system that's guaranteed to absolutely smoke the Democrats in a head to head battle. Clay Travis with us, you know, I'm from Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Midday is on this station, and you do offer some steps one, two, three for what Republicans need to do. Yeah,
there's no doubt. And I would say some people say, okay, give me one example that kind of distills where we are as a country. And I think sports a perfect analogy in this respect. I would have never believed if you had told me that we were going to have men winning women's competitions in athletics and men being named woman of the Year, and overwhelmingly white,
Black, Asian and Hispanic voters. Men in particular, but also a lot of women see this and say this is unacceptable, and biology is real. Men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. And the fact that think about this for a moment, every Democrat in the House and every Democrat in the Senate refuse to say that you should compete against your biological sex
in sports. And that's a bridge too far for almost everyone, and it, to me is representative of the world that democrats have created, where everyone
is required to say things that they know to be untrue. And so I spend a lot of time using that particular aspect as an analogy and a jumping off point to demonstrate how outside the mainstream political spectrum Democrat perspectives have truly become, and using all of those perspectives as an opportunity not just to attack the absurdity of those positions, but to put yourself in a position where you can
help to fight back against them by leading to a landslide election. You know, everybody's talking about Devin Archer and the revelations of the Briden crime family. Ultimately, we're not going to get satisfaction I don't believe from the criminal justice system. It has to come in the ballot box, and it has to come next year in the presumption that Biden or whoever the Democrats put forward, we have to take back the country and kick the Democrat ass next year.
Now I agree with you on that aspect, because it's going to drag out so long that Biden's either going to be dead or so incomprehensible. Oh, I got Alzheimer's. I don't know what I was doing. I don't know what I was saying. And then the accusation would be, how dare you persecute this poor feeble man. But that's what I mean by Democrats changing the
rules of that and the gender argument, you just meant. It meant Democrats have a way of using these pop culture and social issues to change the rules, no doubt. And that's where I really firmly believe there are lots of persuadable voters out there who just don't know the truth. People are busy. I've got three kids. I'm down in Atlanta right now. I'm taking my kids to go to Atlanta Braves games before school gets back in session. And
I understand the challenges that being apparent reflects. And I do believe though, that we can persuade those voters. But we have to fight hard, and we have to cut through, and we have to reach the addressable audience. Because look, half of Democrat voters, over half still believe the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. Well, if over half of their voters still believe in Russian disinformation, probably the other half are just so committed to the ideology
that they don't really care. But half of them think that that laptop's real, Well, that's several steps removed. We've got to convince him, make them see the truth in order to even understand how complicit in criminal behavior the Biden crime family really is. But first we've got to convince them of the
baseline truths, which are Hunter Biden's laptop was real. There's a bevy of felonies associated with that, and they are trying to cover up all of those felonies and prevent him from being held accountable under justice because his father is going to protect him. We're talking to Clay Travis, you know him from Clay Travis and Buck Sexton heard Weekdays mid Days here on this station. American Playbook,
A Guide to Winning back the Country from Democrats. This is going to be I think one of the more interesting election seasons we've seen, maybe since the Civil War. And I say that because everybody thought that the election was going to be suspended during the Civil War, be because of the Civil War. But I'm not saying that we are in the midst of a civil war now. But I am saying there's even Democrats are questioning the cognitive abilities of
Biden. Yeah, he can't do the job. And it's not just it's both physical and mental, which is a bad combination. I mean, I've made this analogy. I run a site called OutKick, which is doing really well because we basically speak sanity in an insane world every day and obviously a lot of what we talk about as a world of sports. There's not a single job that Joe Biden could do at OutKick, And I bet for everybody out there listening right now, if you run a business, what jobs could
Joe Biden do at your business? Would you trust Joe Biden, for instance, to run a gas station? I would not. I don't think Joe Biden could run a gas station. Right now, If we don't think he could run a gas station, how in the world are we allowing him to run the country. And a lot of people out there can say, well, it's not really Joe Biden, and I understand it. But he is the head of the Democrat Party and he is ostensibly the fine old decider in
chief. The guy couldn't run a gas station, and he's trying to run the biggest economy in the world. It's a failed experiment. It was frankly reckless to run Joe Biden in the first place in twenty twenty. But go back and look at Joe Biden in two nineteen and two twenty, even during that presidential campaign, and look at how much worse he is speaking today.
He's deteriorating rapidly, and that is having a major consequential impact not only in the United States, but in our relationships with every country around the world. I wouldn't have him run a toll booth for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority. Clay Travis of Clay and Buck, Yeah, thank you for joining us. We look forward to this great read this summer American Playbook, A guide to winning back the country from the Democrats, and look forward to you and Buck's next
show. Thanks for having me, Lee, I really appreciate it. Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia Presentation