Laura Tingle's Canberra and how sugar shaped the world

At the annual Garma Festival, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said he remained committed to Makarrata. But what exactly does that mean? Laura Tingle and David Marr discuss. Then, we get an update on what's happening in Senator Linda Reynolds' defamation trial against Brittany Higgins with Richard Ackland. And finally, Ulbe Bosma tells us why the history of sugar is anything but sweet...