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"You Have To Grow A Penis" (w/ Chloe Fineman)

Sep 19, 20181 hr 23 minEp. 107
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Remember: "Steering Wheel Acting" wins awards.

The hilarious Chloe Fineman (@ChloeIsCrazy) is in-studio with Matt & Bowen and she has brought 5 beverages with her! They discuss catcalling, the intensity/self-seriousness/general insanity of acting programs, the effect of "Black Swan" on emotional acting students, the Groundlings, impressions, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, and more.

Plus, one of your hosts gets a real life meatball stuck in his brain!

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I see you my look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, ding dong les culture. Here's the actuality. Okay, yesterday I was at my beloved Famili's home, beloved and my mother had made her food and we were eating the food and I eat it a little too fast. And does this ever happen to you where it goes down the wrong pipe? But it doesn't like it goes into your sinuses? Oh no, yeah, that's horrible feeling. Is a meat ball in my brain currently right now? And I will come

and I thought, surely it will have passed. There is a piece of food in my sinuses, and I'm starting to feel sick. Okay, here's what you do. You're gonna go to You're gonna go to your cd as. You're gonna buy pot, not anti pot. I mean it's functionally, it's the same idea, but just one of those like sailing rinces. You gotta flush that out. It feels insane.

You have a meatball brain. Once I ever tell you the story about the one time I ate McDonald's too fast in high school and then fries came out of my nose. Oh no, okay, this is what I mean, that's the whole story. That's the whole story. Okay, okay, okay, but listen now, you've got to be careful. I have to be careful when you're eating. You got to be careful when you're eating. I used to have the worst habit of not chewing my food completely and then swallowing

it and then getting stuck. And I had to what do you think that's about? It's Oh, it's about um, like what it's about the cultural ergonomics, it's it's it's a very Chinese things, very immigrant narrative. It's an immigrant narrative. And I was bent over the Costco bathroom hot, bent

over a gape, but I had it really hot. I had like a two inch piece of hot dogs stuck in my esophagus for about four hours, and I was just in Costco trying to wash it down, and my parents just being like, what did we do to how did this happen? What did we do to make this happen? It's good they were asking those questions, and I do blame them, and I do blame them. I do blame now um, and I blame us for getting such a good guest. I think if we have too good of

a time tonight. I blame us. I blame us, and we're going to have the best time. Can I tell you what the party is? What's the party at? Chloe is crazy? Chloe is crazy, honey. It is a trove of content. Here's every day, each each day, each day, sometimes more than once a day, you'll get a treasure trove. You'll get and it will become impressions down, it will become characters down. It's impressions down. Characters down. Yeah, acting moments down, like steering wheel acting or is it's it's

it's photoshoot moments, it's dance moments, it's street things. Oh my gosh. Last night she had this fucking guy who was cat calling her, following her, and it was riveting to watch. She can turn anything into Academy Award. It's truly compelling. I'm gonna tell you where I met this person, Catherine Cohen at again, how many times do I say this? It's my favorite, It's my favorite, It's my favorite. Henry. I was guest hosting for Catherine. Yes, I remember this time.

I was sitting in the audience. Our guest goes up. I was like, oh, she literally Catherine's emailed me like in two hours before she was like, Okay, we literally this person doesn't tell we must have her on the shop. I was like, okay, coo, we'll give me your number. Came in Slade did impressions of famous celebrities giving beach. It was a moment's Blue Jays b Jo blue Jay's

from Toronto, Honey, I think so funny. And then just and then the moment that you I mean, at this point, tens of thousands of people follow her, but at the moment that you looked through her stuff, You're just like, it's how anyway, we're very bad. She's in town from l A. And so we have her on the pod and her name is Chloe. This is a big and also this is this is a moment where I was like,

I literally have been telling people. I was like, you know, Chloe Fineman's coming on the shop and people are like, oh my god, what, oh my god, my friend Nico from l A. Okay, can we talk about what happened last night? You were walking down So it's been a It's actually I can't stop thinking about the fact that I'm not getting cat called it. I'm lamenting it um, I like tried because it was like this thing. I was like, this is content that that has legs and

conversation conversation starter. I remember like wearing like putting on shorter jim shorts and going in downtown l A just like hello, like silence everywhere recently, but then when you were when you were here, when you were in school here would that happened? Yeah? Yeah, And I am more disgusting city New York, a little bit more disgusting, but also like I have a butt, and and it was nice to have it finally be acknowledged right on the street.

But not last night, not like it's been silenced honestly for the last year ever since the Me Too movement. I'll never forget. I used to walk downtown and there's this guy in a in a driveway, a security guard, and he'd always be like, hey, lady, yeah, And I walked by and he looked at me and his mouth just was glued together. Wow the power he learned his lesson.

But I hate it. And I have all these girls being like, yeah, like I don't know if I look good, Like we're so mad at getting cat cald, but we need it. How does it get reflected back is the thing? Right? Yeah? But then okay, so then talk about this guy coming up to because this time he was really kind and I was really yeah. Yeah, but I was desperate and I was asking for it. I was in a tube top and he came, thank you, thank you. Thought e

thirty Yeah, I love that. It's an embracement. It is it is how much how much time left we have on I think we can make the thirties. I think it's a thought. Thirties twenties was n y U stage blacks, Yes, and period costumes thirties are thought? Yeah? What studio were you at? Adler? Rachel? Wow? Okay, yes, the famous one? It's yeah. I mean so you're you're an a, You're in your studio blacks, You walk outside, immediately get cat called. Yes, yes, yes, Chelsea, Yes,

was that a? Chelsea was in Chelsea? Great? Great? Yeah, okay, So Adler is like a studio where they take it V seriously, so seriously. I didn't leave all four years, which is which is people know it is uncommon, very very uncommon around They dip around. They go to London experimental theater. You wanted to stay in there? I was like I need to play this fifth year old alcoholic now. Now, did you make yourself as seriously as the studio took

itself more seriously? Yeah? Like I get embarrassed coming back to New York and seeing people like Rachel because they know me a certain way and when I'm desperately trying to never remember and so what way was that? Like? Did you take yourself so serious? One time I had a meltdown in the bathroom over a roll and the head of the Stella Adler's grandson, Tom Openheim, banged on the door and Tom was like, like I was just weeping and he was banging on the door. He's like, Chloe, Chloe,

come out, Chloe, please let us talk to you. Yeah, And I was like and I'm like talking to my mom and she's like, what is wrong? Like people are going to worry. And then of course they were worried and they came out and then they went up to the front desk and they're like, it's okay, it happens

at least once a while. But see this thing like as someone who like secretly always she really wanted to be a tische kid while but I want Yes, I got into dramatic because it was the quote unquote easiest to get into right and I was like, even more to eat away. Then I also feel like the most sustainable. I'm happy I went now. At the time, I agree with what Bone is about to say, you really wanted that kind of acting eduction. Secretly, I was like, I

am not in the right place. You wanted the passion, wanted the passion. But but my conception of what drama school was like was crying in a bathroom and Stella's grants On knocked me on the door. There was and then, and I also never forget there was I gotten a huge fight because the casting of the plays had come out and I was cast as Lady Macbeth. Fabulous, and I did because it's a great role that people were

out to kill me. Oh yeah, I've experienced that. And this girl and this girl's boyfriend was Macbeth, and she was so upset and so mean that she started running down the halls weeping, and I was like, Eleanor, Eleanor, Like Eleanor, let's talk Eleanor, because she's like because she like desperately wanted to be Lady mnem to do a power couple do the play. And I remember like circling her and I was like eleanor talk. She was like no, and she always wore like really fancy Mark Jacobs because

and when he has like those rich kids. She was like draped in couture and like ignoring me. And then Ellen Adler Stella Adler's grandmother sauce and she was crying and she goes, if my mother knew that you girls were arguing on Russia, Shanna, I swear to god, this was like this was this is like, yeah, wow, that

is stemcasting. Go Ultimately, oh, I'm very either, Okay. So they brought in a director who directs Shakespeare, like the Harlem Shakespeare Company, so it was not used to directing whites in their early nine like twenty year old white white white girl. And so I was like he wanted me to like spit on McBeth and like grab his I do do this thing where I was like how you know, and I would like fake grab his balls

and lick him in the eyes because she's the power. Yeah, she's got the power to be like was like you know the baby line, I don't know. I don't remember it either. Never was top drunk grab balls him in the eyes, spit. It was very and you did that. I did that, and I was doing it and I hit him or something and he was like whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on? And his direction was like, come on, she's crazy, she's crazy. And so I spit on him, and the directors like, why did you do that? Like what?

That was so crazy? And I was like, we told me she's crazy. He goes, no, no, no, like, damn you crazy, Oh my god, and he was white. He's like, I'm old white of telling you. And so the day that we premiere our show, he sits us down and he's like, enjoy this because then you're probably never going to play these rules again. What I remember this, God rest her soul. But she would funk with my head. So we did an tish main stage of Murat Sad. But I remember that I played the marquis Assad Oh

my god. And it was controversy because I was in dramatic writing. But I was one of Liz's favorites. I mean, I could say now, but she selected and I remember I got the people. They it's gross. They I mean, they were so upset and I guess they had a point, because I was not a drama student. I would hear I was in the main stage. But I kind of was like, well, you know, this is what happens in

the industry. Models are going to take your part. Somebody you compared herself to models, to models who had no rights to take the jobs. But I was like, you know what, I honestly was just like fighting, fighting, fighting to be accepted. Um. And then of course there was of course all the pressure on me to be good at the part. And then you add on to it. By the way, they made it a punk rock musical. I don't know if you remember this, Yeah, oh that was me. I sang the song where we got whipped,

and it was like a punk rock ballad. It actually was pretty badass. I don't know if I did it when they were remember a single fucking thing. No, it was like it was crazy. It was just like being under nine year old screaming a bunch of like fucking white because they said it. They said it in a detention facility for like troubled youth, and we They also had us write her own monologues as the characters in top of doing the text, which was musicalized in punk rock.

It was insane. But I remember Liz would drive me nuts because she'd give me different direction every day and totally they're like. She's like, no, I want the character to be like Steven Tyler. So then I would come in and I'd be like Steven Tyler. She goes when when she said Steven Tyler, I was like, okay, so you wanted to be like an active rock star. You wanted to be like coming in with swags. She's like, no, it should be much more moody than that. I'm like, okay, well,

Steven Tyler isn't. And I kind of realized that she she either one of two things, didn't know what she wanted and was gonna when she saw it was like do that, or she wanted me to be confused. She constantly wanted to to keep it fresh and have you switched back, And I think what she wanted was for me to be like a lunatic. Yeah, and she succeeded.

I was fully crazy black like and that like my personality looked like a villain and I was regnize you probably I remember Black Swan had just come out, Yes, yes, yes, remember this two? Is that Tisstone Black? That changed that

changed the way you thought. I remember one time I had a this is the most n y U story, and I probably have told I had a fight with my voice teacher who asked me to He asked me to sing that rock ballad in in voice class with him, and I hadn't gone over it with him because he he was trying to get me to sing want a Beautiful Are and I just was like, this is not the way I sing. So he's like, can you sing the ballot that you sing in the show from me? Now?

I want to hear the way you're singing it. He told me I could tell you that you're not allowed to go on stage singing it the way you sing it. And I'm like, well, I have to sing it like from my gut, like gets like it's like a I'm like thrashing around getting whipped while I do it. It's like I have to I can't really sing it like this. I can't do it like this. I have to do it like the way I'm being directed to do it. He goes, this is my tische sucks. They can't so

they don't teach you how to sing correctly. Starting hard is the only place you learned how to sing correctly. We got fight. We got to a fight, and I walked from that class like Natalie Portman in the last scene of Black Swan walking to Lincoln Center like crazed her hair, like I was like, and I've stormed in, like threw my makeup on the table and did my makeup and it was like truly tips, you don't get more tish than that, and gave like a seven out

of ten performance. Probably. I remember seeing Black Swan in the Union Square. I saw in that theater and I saw it with a girl and we were in the middle of a play, and I was so triggered by it because I felt like I like, I really like it was my story that she was like are you okay? And I was like, I have to go take a lap And I walked alone like around Union Square and just like processed the good for not a good movie for narcissistic. It was like, it was like, this narcissism

story is my story. There's a kernel of truth to this. Both of you should be arrested for that behavior. I feel like I also was very sexually reckless at the top hot producer Alex wasn't. It was in drama school at n y o Oh better, that's better. Creative writing was cool. I would have paid Alex for an actor this whole time. I'm sorry you did. Here's a fabulous actor and a great director. Yeah, wonderful, I too a creative writing. And there was a girl who would show

up with an entire pumpkin. Veganism had like just hit and this girl show was like a baked pumpkin that she'd unwrap the tinfoil and that should just eat the pumpkin alright, and she was iconic. She was. Actually, pumpkins are, especially in October. They are there we go, they are, you know, the pumpkin spices back, they are, I like the cabocca squash a lot. What's this? It's a Japanese pumpkin. My real vegetables Japanese, like the Japanese sweet potato Japanese.

You you're tarot girl. Yeah? Have you been to the East You have to go. You have to go to any McDonald's in East Asia and they'll have apple pie. But then in the same pastries the apple pie, they'll put tarot in it. Really it's so good. Yeah, yeah, it's a dangerous thing to cook though, yes, I'm from Berkeley, and so we like are really eccentric, like a white person being like, let me tell you how to prepare taro, but you have to you can like poison yourself if

you don't like so good or something. Yeah, even I don't know that. Wait can we talk about this? Okay, so what do you think? Because at this point it seems like you've undone all of this like wild histrionic like drama school behavioral stuff. But but will you will you can look back on it now and be like, oh my god, I can't believe I was a nightmare. I can't believe I was that person. Like whether or

not you're a nightmare is up to someone else. That's true, that's but um, what do you think was the thing that helped you? Like, was it just time or like because because at what point do you look back on yourself and be like, oh, I can't believe I was that person? Um getting into comedy, I had no sense of humor. But but all throughout Tish was like this is so dumb. You know, you knew at the back, like Rachel was like they knew they were funny. Yeah,

but even Rachel didn't get into comedy. It didn't exist. It truly did not exist in that space. It didn't exist in that space. Yeah. Um. But also we had this awful class where they like type cast nineteen year

old basically so good year old. And I remember like that, like that day you'd come in and be like, well, people tell me I kind of like Kate wins Let, you know, so I guess I'm like and like I remember like Rachel going up in some other funny Jewish girls and then being like, you're funny, You're this meets that, You're you're hilarious, you say that, you know, the Jewish Jewish girls got to be funny. And then I went

up and I had highlights, which I still do. And they're like elegant and complicated and they think they know what they're talking about and all they do is get kids so in their heads that they can right. And I literally like, but I am. And then I had to be like, you can't be like I think funny. You know, you don't look funny. They do that. I mean, we have friends that went to Kept twenty one two and they were the same thing. I mean, Dave gets told all the time, like he said he got told

a lot like you will never ever be funny. You are only handsome, like he said, he'll Steven say, it's like you go up there and they s s s you and they and they're out of work. I mean not to ship, but like they don't have jobs. They're just working in I mean they work in the school where. Yeah, like they sat us down, They sat us down. This guy and he pointed to all of us and he'd go romantically, character actor, romantically character actor, and then in between,

did you ever hear the story? Like they had this dance teacher. I guess his name was like Lloyd or something, and he would just go and he'd be like chorus lead, funny, no career, what a night. He would just like they would call him real life Lloyd. He give you the

real life and it makes you so self involved. My friend was staying with me at the time, and I had everyone from our class come over and like point and be like, well, you know you are you are Rachel McAdams, just like no, but like you really are, Like you're sweet. You don't see it, but you are, and we are. That's how we see you. And my friend she was like a journal she's like a hyper genius journalist student was like why are you here? Like

this was so traumatic and gross for me to witness. God, I mean like I'm still like reckoning with that bullshit from high school and that's like there's no structure behind that. But like I high school, I haven't in high school. I just have like shitty adults who like didn't know what they were talking about. Be like, you will never be like the lead, Like like you will never be like someone who will be like prominently featured on stage,

like make it work. Make it work as like like milk it as a chorus member that somebody said to me one time, not handsome enough to be the star, but not ugly enough to be the best friend. So what And yeah, I'm like I'm holding my face right now and you guys can see. It gets worse in l A. Yeah, but then it's like funny and you have you know who you are kind of. I mean I know that I don't like to beat myself auditions in l A. I mean I've only done it like

for one week. But like the people who work those are their own breed of people. They're just like I mean, like I mean the people who run the casting people like, yeah, I I did one with with this woman who like worked out of a bungalow, lovely bungalow and silver lace. You did, Oh that's a big deal to get to her bungalow. I know who you're talking about. She has like she has like hair, Yeah, good for you to

get that. Didn't have didn't have any side. She was off book with with with the whole the whole thing was giving me like full like grounded realism, Like hey, so and I was like, oh, we're just doing it. Like she walked into the room, she sits down, and then she just starts. She starts, she started the scene, just started the scene, and I was like, and it was fun. And then like afterwards, she goes, yeah, okay, um, yeah,

I'm a needed to come back in tomorrow. Okay, Josh needs like with what the guy needs to She's like, Josh needs to see you, and yeah, I see what you're doing. And just like it was just like so bizarre. It was lovely, Like it was a positive experience. But I was like, oh, people in l A are so specific and how they do that. Yeah, it's well they say it's harder, it's harder than theater, the specificity of

the choices. I agree with that. It's true because when you when you're acting on stage, you can perform, but when you are acting on camera, you have to be acting. You can't hide from the camera. Yeah, there's this awful teacher who actually she Have you heard about this like drama that happened where this woman told the Jewish girl to right were we talking about that? We were, Yeah, I love talking about I can't like a Jewish girl that she should that she should change her name to

Rosa Ramirez. So that's she's based in New York. This this person the teacher teacher's Yeah, I was in her class and around that time, and I ended up dropping out and used this to get out of it. But I remember I like showed up and wasn't fully off book, and she looked at me and was like, how can I critique your acting when you're not off book? And he literally said like the instead of and it was

like yeah, wait, wait and wait. My lane was like the it was like procedural doctor side that like, I'll never ever go out for has anything with my life. I was like the spinal Fifida and she's how Yeah, how can I critique acting if you're not book? Yeah? That is I kind of that, I know. That's the thing. I was like kind of like I kind of think you're amazing. Wow, it's like that cold like authority without raising your voice. It's just it's literally it's what you

did the other day. It's barely raises her voice and stillness. Yeah, but those like I've been like ever since I've thought of that, Like I'm just like I'm trying to emulate, Like, but then you seem like you have that has to be earned, Like I can't just do that from now on, Like what the funk are you doing? To be quiet?

And like still? Well, that's the weird thing, right, It's like at this stage of our career where it's like starting out, it's like you go in there and you make a big choice and they're like, what the funk? What do they think they are? Like why didn't they do what they were supposed to? But it's like, but but I'm told to choices. I had a really bad My worst audition like so far was in New York, like it in the winter. I don't say what it was, but like what was the experience was I showed up.

I had a fun rainbow sweater that that was like trending at the time. I love a trend and the woman I like, sit down. I brought like glasses because she was a nerd, and then she was like, please take up for sweater like I was wearing like a silk and brawn. I was like, yeah, So I took off this sweater and I like did it? And she was like, do you act? And I was like what she's like when, I mean, you do the skits and the sketches, but do you act scripted scripted material? Here's

the thing. I mean, well this is this just goes to that saying. But I'm just realizing this again now it's so much worse for women. I was no casting director has really never never never. Maybe a man really and then I take that. I'm like, oh great, she we're just cleaning out. But sometimes it's it's the maybe a game man would be like sweetie, coming coming to do this, like no, and maybe commercial commercially, the directors commercials are a little bit more like um, just like

not willing to engage. But that's kind of the nature of that. But I've woman's trip like that to another woman is I felt so bad and because I was like, I'm not good at multiicam. Yet I got it, you know. It was like I got it the night before. I had like five hours. It was eight pages. Yeah, and I hate what people call like what we do skitsure. They're called stitches, I mean. And then so then comedy was this thing that, like you would say, helped undo

a lot of this. Absolutely. Yeah. When you graduate Adler, they don't really give you, like any career advice because you're just used to playing these alcoholics and nailing them, nailing them, And so they sent you across the street to one on one you know that play one on one studios. It's on and they've casting director workshops, so you go to those learn how to do on camera, and like I would go to those and like cry and do those kind of things and they're like we

want to see your funnies night. Um. But yeah, it was until I moved l A and just was like really lost that got into it? How did you get into it? Um? My mom told me to do improv to find a guy. Well I went to Growlings and I was like they're all gay, very gay. It's my home, it's women and gays, like one strike Eye from Ohio. Well, and he's probably wonderful. Yeah he is. It's like literally Indiana, Ohio. Everyone else is gay and women. It feels like the

Growlings is but it's very gay. But it's also well I shouldn't say this, but it's a little homophonic. Well, it's like Drew d like, my here's my divine and yeah, my divine inspiration. I like, I've loved him forever and he was not a groundling, which blows my mind because I think he's one of the most talented people of all times. Azing, like, where did he come up again? I thought for the worst time, I thought it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And they like just this year are

letting men play women, like it's just a slower game. Really, that's so interesting. I like it there because all the teachers are women, and I like the u cvs like it kind of kept me in l a for a while because I felt like I could develop as like a female. Yeah, I hear that. I think that, UCB.

It's only recently. And when I say recently, I think in the last five or six years it's become this place where it's like you see more than one queer person, gay person, more than one woman, Like now there's like a whole community, large community of people New York scene that are like we're queer or like even just like

you see more than now. I think it is the only time, and I think it did have a lot to do with having a female actressy director, where the a lot most of the teams are half women half men, but that was not the case in l A. You'd like walk in and you'd be blinded by the platt. You sort of like see like all this, you'd see like the kids or whatever, or the converse, and then the plat and then you'd have to like look up

because everyone was so tall. Then classes there I started two thousand nine, and it was like it was it's already like it's already like vulnerable, and you're anxious taking it in prov class and because you don't you don't know what you're doing right right, And then when it's everyone is like a certain type of person, you're like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna die. You know what's so interesting? I was talking to someone, um maritzaone tany is she teaches his UCB one on one now.

She's great, but she wasna her and like I was catching up with her and she was like, yea, I'm teaching classes now, and then she brought up something interesting where she was like, it's interesting giving feedback to people in one on one where they don't have the language yet, Like they don't have the language for you to say like, oh, you're not playing game. This was off game, like the only way you can note these people at when I wanted to be like, hey, that wasn't funny. You can't

make a disabled joke because that's not funny. It's every yeah, and when people start out, they don't know how to

not be right. It's those are my treasure trouves are those one on one classes and to one Yeah, in terms of your your own stuff like watching other people, watching other people and like I remember I had to repeat to one for something like I don't I like took a while together and in l A. The people who take those classes are like business like for so long, it's no one who actually wants to do it, which

makes it so fun and funny. Yeah, like really old people. Yeah, there's always the one like really outliery person New York in New York. Well, in any class, I feel like there's never yeah yeah there was. There was like a glitch. I was signing up for four one. There was I was signing up for four oh one. I took four a one with Doug mo and it was like there was only eight people in the class due to a glitch, and like so that one guy was like in every

scene because he just bied. By nature of it, we all did more scenes because there was only eight of us, and so it just became so overwhelming that it was like I don't know if I can do this, But it was just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't miss being in classes. I never fried there. I was never the person that was like crushing it in class. That's what you don't want to be that. That's what I wasn't And I crushed class and failed at life.

For interesting, that's a gross thing. I crushed No, no, no, But that's very like the teacher, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say I didn't love classes that you cev. I mean they were they were great, they're necessary, but like I would say that I was always a good student in class. And then outside in the outside world, I'd be like, whoa, I'm terrible at this and I

still have this weird thing with him prop now. But anyway, um, I think I think that is like such a good I think that's such a rich like trajectory, topography whatever for you, because it's like tophy just like I don't know, you're just like evening that out in such a nice swear where it like but like re re equilibrates using all these big words. It comes in handy for like impressions. Yeah, okay,

all those years of impression impression. Can we get into this like like I don't want to get to process oriented e on this, but like I have five beverages, a solid five beverages on so let's just talk about what we have. We have essential this is just a water words disgusting juice press drinking. We have what's this beach? I feel tired? Great? What's this year? We have Lineman's

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or wherever you get your comics process impression. So when did you discover you could do them? And like when I had to first submitting for some stuff from some stuff. So so really, oh it was you had only when you had to to discover Yeah, because that UCB they're not allowed to write in your mode audition you're not allowed to, and groundlings you're not allowed to. You're not allowed to groundlings either. They encourage no impressions from impression.

We were I remember like in a class doing like Drew Barrymore or something and being like, Oh, I guess I actually sound like her. That's crazy, like that literally crazy, um flower films, flower pressed crocks. This is why I want to get into like what what are the first little things that you key and on or is it just more of a holistic thing more in the whole.

I think it depends. I think like my brain was washed because we had voice class for like three days a week, and so I usually go to the voice first because I feel like I'm like, it's the only way I feel like I'm actually applying undergrad. That's actually said the same thing last her about impression. Really like she said that she doesn't even watch videos of people

necessarily at first, she listens to them. Oh really, I know, I watched it's a lot of like mindless YouTube and then kind of like finding what makes you laugh, Like I just watched them until something they do makes me laugh, right, and then because you have to have a take sure, which I find hard, I find it easier to be them, to just be them, yeah, like okay, like with g G for example, and that was her voice. That was

her voice. I was watching Vogu twenty one questions and being like, what Atrocian So I really likes pizza and you're like you look like a cat goddess and the voice of like a seven year old boy. Yeah, it's whatever, and it's like kind of it's like she's from Malibu and things aren't pronounced correctly, and yeah, I think my favorite that you do is Nicole Kim in Big Little Lives.

The Wigges thinks that was you make me laugh. That was pressure to submitted tate for something, and I was like, I feel like I could do big a lot of love and I locked myself. I didn't have HBO in my apartments. When I drove to San Francisca. What I was like, Man, when I have a deadline, I like, man, we're like I notice in l A and they're like I have to write, and they're like in a hotel, so everyone's like at the Madonna and I understand it. Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna go home three days,

like a day of it was in travel. I literally drove and and just like watched it and yeah, her laugh made me laugh. We have a tape she so funny came into because like stunning performance, she's incredible. But does she slip into her own accent often? Yes she does, honey, and you can't deny, but you're still I had that sag ballot in my hands and I checked, Yeah, there's no what's the scene in the therapist office. It's like stunning, It's absolutely, I mean just that just one scene that

was amazing, the first one, the last. The therapist actress I forgot her name, is incredible and she was she was in Deadwood. She's like Angels in America. Here the player that she was like one of the figurines in the museum that comes to life and talks to her. Yeah, she's amazing. She's amazing. Um, but yeah, that therapist, oh my god, oh my god. No, I'm not accepting not knowing her name. I think it's Aaron no, and the

way she just like gently prods the questions. Robin, She's tremendous and she just played a fucking great therapist, you know what I mean. Like that's and and Nicole and the way that Nicole responds to Alexander in that scene amazing. I'd also think Alexander scars Guard, he's amazing every award wanting because the show doesn't work without him being terrifying

and terrible. And you have to imagine that a lot of actors were like hesitant to do something like that because when you're too good at playing that, it's like, especially now, it's like you know what I mean, you get people are so stupid they can't separate the two. Yeah, he's tremendous. And then with Okay, and then Hannah Gadsby, that was that was voice and like that was like my friend Casey, who I Chartie Party sixty nine? Yeah,

chartis the best. Um, we were like thinking of new ones to do, and he's like, I think you should take on Hannah. Like we treated like a I mean, you should do Hannah And that was really hard. I had to watch her a lot. And then even when we shot the video the first forty five, Like we had like so many first takes of it and it was sounded like Emma Thompson doing an impression of it

was just like a bad Emma Thompson impression. For so long I loved the beast Strop you guys used it's like, and then like, oh my god, we just do it for fun, because finding the green screen, like finding the images honestly one of the most fun. Well, the fun of it really comes through. And you know what I mean, because it feels like Drew even it feels like is

my divine inspiration. He really he's carved the path. I mean truly, like Drew was one of these first people in this modern contemporary whatever said internet comedy or internet comedy where Matt and I were like, who is this? Chloe was huge, huge, me too, And when when I found out he taught at Groundlings, I lost my ship and I ran to his class and he's a really intense teacher. He's like, no, no, I wouldn't know, shut up,

shut up like that. I love that. That is that sounds silar than like any sort of drama school Adler like it is it totally. I felt at home at Groundlings because the teachers are really like mean, but it's funny in a way that it's like that makes you want to do better. We're not in a very stressful way, and it's stressful, but it's not as destructive as like someone at Adler being like not like I don't know, well, my first like my first impression, I'm being so gross.

But my very first impression was our Shakespeare teacher that I have this active teacher character. That's me just doing an impression of this old gay man who taught us Shakespeare, who was like, you have to growl up, yeah, wish to come up in your air playing Lady Macbeth. You have to grob you have to grow a penis at the time. You have to grow a penis like Puss in the Ring and I we're eighteen, yeah, and you're like, oh my god, a teacher is using the word pussy pussy.

If you were doing Hamlet and I was a feeling he would ruffle your hair and then whisper in your ear and that's just sucking. But that's like, that's that's sling blade. So I feel like you would not fly today. But I loved that. No, I mean, what the thing is like the impressions for me are the hardest. I'm knocking at them. So what I always do is I pick a take and it's kind of like, though, that's

like what you really should do. It has to have a take well when it can be when people can be like, oh my god, that was such a good impression. I think that's great. Those have to have to to what all of yours have strong takes. But the thing is like, like I see people like my Rudolf, I don't think it's a good impressionist, but she always has the funniest her Beyonce is like, it's a fine Beyonce. But for example, we were watching her do Omarosa from

way back and it was that's part problem problematic? Am I wrong? Yes? Yes, well yeah, But the thing is it was like it was she did she did my roudof and she spoke in a voice that was like her mid Atlantics of hilarious. It's you don't care that it's not a good omarosa because it was it's so funny. So like, but like I remember I in my JFL said I had a Channing Tatum and it's not a good I danced a little bit music crippoling Insecure. Yeah, but he's mad. He's and it's very upset that people

like him for his body are not his actor. But that like's like he's a really good act He's actually he's dropped in Honey, He's dropped right in Adler. No. But like the thing is like it's like for people that cannot do impressions like myself, but can do original characters, it's like you gotta just like make sure you cover it up with like a fucking take, because I mean I see people like you and people that can do impressions and I'm like, Jesus Christ, that's like a whole

other fucking bla. It's like it's so, it's so, but you're way you're talking about it, It's like you do have to go about it the same way. Yeah, you just you watch it a lot, and like sometimes they're really bad until they're good. That's what it is. You just make and gets good. But then like the thing about Cloe is that she also just has like a good observational lens in general, like steering wheel acting, I think that's the best, so good, so good. You're the

Queen of steering. You do it better than who who was that? Who does well? Okay, so it's honestly, it started with the Net and American. Yeah, there's like five accounts of it, and then um, they do it in big little lies a lot. That's my favorite. That's when I that's my favorite team. And that's when Nicole Kidman's like and she does her like this thing. Yeah that's hand paws. That that's steering mail. And then Elizabeth Moss

did it in Handmaid's Tale so much. She does it like four times and that's that's like she has the weal and she's like, fuck, it's so good. It's so good. There's powerful, it's so powerful, and it's how you win awards. Like I really feel like it's gonna get her, might get her another. I mean I wanted to go to Sandra. We were talking about this and I can. I could

go to Sandra and then one other person. I mean, Elizabeth Moss is a performance is so undeniable that it's like she doesn't talk like well with diet like the stuff. The way Sandra makes words come out of her. I know, sund really she's a prophet. She the way like I would never make those words come out like they're so

authentic and emotional. Time. When I when when I did the Sandra lip sync, I was like, wow, I know, I know, and I know that when you did that, she's doing she's making a lot, like so many micro choices and the way that you felt yeah something and then yeah it's so delicious and then and then the end and that will never And also it's just like you read you look at just the words and you think, wow, if I got this as an actor, like it would be so different and so much worse, because much worse.

It's just like she's such she uses words. Yeah, words are like played with. I look up the other nominees because I feel like if it's not Elizabeth, and if it's not Sandra, then it's someone else. I mean nominations. Anyway, I don't know. It's a great year though. There's a lot of steering reacting in sharp objects. But I find that show hard to hard to watch because yeah, well it's like I would watch it eating breakfast and then

be like it's not good. It's slow. And I love Amy Adams, I do give you obsessed with her, but not mentioning it's it's a tough one for me. It's tough. What do we got Claire Foy? I think because it's it's her last she's outstanding its last seasons. As they're talking about miss Claire Foy for the supporting actress. Oscar First Man, the first reviews of is happening, and so now we have all the first reviews of the big Oscar movies. So First Man got reviews. Some people are raving,

some people not Star is Born. The reviews have come out and they're very positively. Yeah, they're saying it's actually a sleigh and a half. Really, I gotta work on that, lady gun you were um. First of all, she's giving you so much material just in that car and that scene alone when he's like that is there was so much material in her Netflix special just yeah, um. And then what else? You know what movie I heard is good?

There's a movie coming out with Rachel VISs Ema Stone and Olivia Coleman called The Favorite, which that looks really good with it. It's the same lobster guy. Yeah, it's it's like Olivia Coleman's in it. Olivia Coleman plays like a queen and emistone and I guess Rachel Vice is like just under her and then Emi Stone plays like the new servant that they hire or something like that,

like some someone new to like this estate. And it's like a comedy, like like sort of comedy matters um and Rave reviews and they're saying that Emi Stone is phenomenal in it. She's good. She's good. It's really good. I think she's really telling very very and she seems like a good and she's a good person. Yeah, she seems like a good person, like from people who like whatever periphctly know her that everyone's looks like she's a solid human. Yeah, and don't they call her em Emily

Emily um clorie. I think we should ask you the question. We ask all of our guests to ask this question, and I think you and we like screen this for you earlier. And let's see if I say the same and you were self conscio, but I believe a great choice. Okay, so you can change your answer for you Okay, uh, Chlorie, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Like defining pop culture that made you say wow?

I might be forming into a person due to this, the miseducation of Lauren Hell and just celebrated its twenty anniversary, which is insane. Insane, that's okay, So then what are you okay? So then let's let's dive into this. So I'm from Berkeley, and um, like white people don't listen to white people. Yeah, And I was just like I as I've always been the person. They're like, you have more phases than the moon. But the miseducation, I was like, no, no, this is me. And I was right. And I started

wearing like Rastafarian Oh my god. So I was just like little miss appropriate just was appropriating everything I possibly could, like really felt it like smoked weed for the first time, came from this earnest place, not like like womanhood and hip hop. Yeah, and I had it was like the first time I really had a crush on somebody. Yeah, Andrew, Yeah, it was like yeah it was associated with like I'm gonna listen to this music and flirt with this guy. Yeah it was it was it was that music that

kicked in just as you were kind of becoming a person. Yeah. Black Street was like around that same time. Was it like, was it Fuji's leading into Yeah? And when I bought the Fuji's it was like all at that same time, especially the Fujisan that album. I mean, yeah, they're the best, but there's something that's still still to this day, like when um, oh my god, do have that thing comes on? You're like this is this is unique, You'll never hear

it again. Yeah, although I really like hip hop right now, this new like lady hip hop. Do you know Tierra Whack? You gotta check her out? She just I know you like Jungle Pussy because you love jungle and I deeply love your friend Jungle Pussy. Yeah, there's some like hints of Lauren Hill, like a little bit someone Lauren Um, but you'll should check out Taro Wax. She's this like twenty five year old girl from Philly. She's wait, I was just listening. Did she do a thing with Kanye She?

I don't know she did do anything. I think she's like just someone she like like people like people, people love her like like all like the hip hop like higher ups like oh see that's when you know, that's when you know. But like she so she basically put out this m visual album and all the all the

tracks for a minute long and it's fifteen songs. So it's a fifteen minute visual album cool and you listen to it in fifteen minutes and it's all like wonderful, little like vignette of melodies and you're like, oh, these are really good. That's a way you're here. I was listening to Tiana Taylor is Great my co stars after Party. Wait what she's in the Afterparty Netflix movie? She's in it.

Oh my god. I was just walking past the brick like living, Oh my god, she's amazing, really really excited when they found out she was going to be in the movie. You listen to work this pussy right now, you're gonna pop your genity. I'm gonna pop my bussy. You're gonna pop your bussy to work that. She came up because I was listening to City Girls and you City Girls they have this song called Period. It's like the best I've ever heard. The women are coming back.

Yes they are. I mean, and it's not this thing where it's like, oh there are no female They're here here and they're huge. I mean, it's like, literally, they should just have a concert where it's all it's just like Lizzo and Princess Nokia and Jungle Pussy. Okay, Princess Nokia. People are like turning on her. Everyone's turning on her because she did that alternative album? Is that sort of the way it goes, like what are You're not allowed to do anything different? I think they were, But I

love her. I think she's I think she's a very talented. People are turning on Doja Cat now, yes, because she tweeted this thing out of nowhere where she was like what did she say? She was like, um, and I am I homophobic If I used the word faggot when I was in high school, I just call people faking. Although, Azalia, how do you feel about ze? Because I feel like she's one of those people were Her talent sort of transcends the insanity and her whole thing with Elon Musk.

I cannot believe. It's so fucking funny, so fucking funny. The fact that she called Grimes a perhapst beer pussy is genius, genius. If we if we all do, if we all knew a Zilia Banks, she would leave rooms and we would say that bitch is so crazy but so funny, Like Okay, Matt and I like pulled up the video where she called that fight attendant a faggot, And it's hilarious for somebody have to say something that flight attend it was a fag like I'm sorry, but

come for me too, and we're gonna. I just want to heat the way she says it, because it's no she goes. No, it's not that she goes, it's deeper. It's like she drops like this, the draw is fucking bag. She says it from her soul. But the thing is like, here's the thing, here's the thing, fucking fat let's let's let's let's paint a picture in our heads of what this is. We hear about the way that some of these flight attendants treat people. We hear about fucking racism.

We hear that she's gonna tell me Azalia Banks being who she is, I see to her plane. Maybe she was being a little extra. That doesn't mean you fucking not not let her off the plane. You're not letting her back. She shouldn't have said it. But also at the end of the day, like what the hell, why are you abusing her? Just get let her get off the plane. Then we're not to do with it at all. This is all to say Treasure Island, this track that she came out with like a month ago. It's so good,

so good. That's the thing. Her music, It is so good. Her music is so good. And what's you gonna do? Like you're going to be mad at of her speaking truth to power. Now I have to I'm sorry, I have to read I think my favorite tweet of all time. I just I'm sorry, I'm sorry, my problematic favor for saying that. No. I also I used to see her in downtown l A A lot. Yeah, yeah, just like, and she'd be eating eggs at the Why I was at the hotel down to l A. I don't know.

I like weird. I lived, I lived down there, and I thought that I would have this life where I like, I get up and I go to work at the hotel. Yeah, people do it here. You see it in New York all the time. That's where I like, because it's right by Adler. I thought I would live. Is where we watched Dred Race. Now that it's on Thursday's weekend, when it's not packed in those couches, its scourges, and it's cozy and it's productive and it's a great place for

a little Micah. She'd always have these eggs and these crazy nails, and I'd like see her and she'd like look up, and I like, I love you just Her music is no joke. Can just read this my favorite tweet. I think I've read this to you. This is um, this was back in. This is right I r Ann Winter came out, so this is recent. She goes, and this is right after Nicki Minaje wore a mermaid tail

in a music video. Then Azelia freaked out. It's like, people are, well, she's not so, I mean sure as she goes l O L. Female rap is a mess today. Yet I'm still the most original, talented and the most skinny all taps drinking, drinking my skinny watermelon teeny staring from the kitchen window as I watched the raccoons scrounged for art in my garbage pobblem, Like that's an artful TWI that's come on, that's amazing, It's amazing. She's amazing.

Pretty is great. Yeah, Jungle Pussy is amazing. I think she has these great this whole thing about how to make like a skin potion. I like her because she's like healthy, yeah yeah, yeah, she's like a healthy She's a healthy rapper like she Butter and Lemon Grass. She'll give you lifestyle tips. Yeah, I took her lifetyle tips. Do wait, did you have you listened to the Kayli forties seven? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so good. Yeah yeah, wait, there's a new one in handbags. Listen to that. That's

really good. Oh my god, all the time, all the time, She's amazing. That's my I listen to and I get on a plane. Yes, and I feel no fear. That's great plane. So hip hop is your genre absolutely? Yeah. And it started with the Miss Educational. Yes, okay, let's talk about this because my mom was like, you can play this. I like this free cyclist all the time in the car. Yeah. It's an incredible album. X Factor do op um God still one of the most successful

albums of all the time. And even that bonus track the uh You're just Too Good to be True whatever. It came out like when Cheryl Crow CDs were coming out, so it just felt like there was not that space filed. It was a little fair. Yeah, it was a little Sarah macacklin Cheryl Crow. Well, you had like little Fair happening, and then you had like pop Diva's happening, and then you had Lauren Hill because that was also that was

also it was little fair. It was you were either a woman, you had a guitar, or you had a big, big voice where you riffed the house down right, or you were a pop princess. And then there was like this space and I think like just even Lauren Hill, like singing and also rapping, was like, oh wait, let's pivot and let's let's look at this too, and then like it's true, like there is this like world of

hip hop that I feel was exposed. God, I mean speaking of one of the best singers ever to like, like Lauren is another like very mystifying figure where it's like you don't really know what to make of her because there's just seemed to be all of these prickly things like she came to Oakland. I remember, didn't like, didn't perform a concert because it was to me white people. Yeah, respect,

I don't know, I kind of classically always late. I've heard that she's not the most pleasant person, but um, when you have when you're that talent, it's like it's so hard. She did a cover not too long like a year ago that was on Facebook. Yeah. It was like an events yeah, and event where she performed for the first time in a while, and I mean it's chills, Like her voice is insane. You put up with people's bullshit when you know you're going to get a certain

you just do yeah. Right. But it's like there's no like mathematical way to like figure that. It's like read the Franklin saying, Hi, there can be no air conditioning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you turn the air conditioning off because when the queen rolls with with Lauren Hill though, oh, I just want to I used to do this a joke when like the handful of times I would do stand up that I do it. Um when I talk about going to this Beyonce concert with Brittany remember High Britney Halloway Brown.

If you're listening, um, oh yeah, remember when you went. But I'll be like, um, I'll be like I am, I'll be like yes, so Brittany came with me, and Brittany is like the Lauren Hill of being late to things, and I'm I'm the Lauren Hill of hating white people. I thought that was a fun joke, but then it would like get such a mixed reacitially anyway, but Lauren is Yeah, so Lauren, I feel like, what what just

came out recently? Some wanted some producer, someone on Miss Education or some close collaborator of hers like called her out in this essay and was like she's like, I don't know, she doesn't have good relations to people. I think because she's not you know, she's a tough person to deal with. I don't know. I just feel like a lot of money tied up on that album too, is that thing totally? And like I feel like, if all's right in the world, like we get one more

like piece of great work out of her. Not that I'm not that we demanding things, but like it's just

I would want that. It is crazy because even even really it's nuts that really from her was like her work with the Fujis and then that album and then there's really hasn't been what I mean, it's like other people that put out like iconic pieces of work, like they followed up like you know what I mean, like a lot of more set, there's Jagged Little Pill, and then it's almost like you don't even remember anything else.

But there are other albums, yeah, Christmas albums Laura Hill should release a Christmas She had an acoustic album that came out and she did an MTV unplugged acoust and it's beauty, Like, it's just beaut that. I also live for her performance and fucking fist direct to ahead and she really Ralph was the mother. Yes, just so kind and like her fashion at the time, she's so beautiful.

Those music videos are like timeless, yes, even now, even when she did that little video where she did an acoustic cover of Doop, like she just wore this giant brimmed hat and looked incredible. Incredible. Yeah, I love you,

not aged. I also heard that in concert she rarely does the same arrangement twice, like she's always like rearaging things, Like she's like it has to be different, like her instincts must be followed at all times, and like her band is good enough to like change because she has of course the best and the best work and probably if someone were not perfect, she could just look fill them a look and they be gone. That's okay. You know what This is the thing that is solidifying all

this for me is that she is a musical genius. Yeah, and like you can't and that is the thing that you weigh against all the other behavioral stuff. And I think the issue is that like a lot of people will have that behavior without the talent. Sure, yeah, it's like yeah and they and people put up with even them. Yeah. Yeah. Is it is popular in comedy, yes, in the Lady Gaga Netflix saying where she's like getting massaged every other take and like weeping with her soul and like I'm like,

are you in that much pain? Honestly, I guess I choose to believe that she actually is, because like, yeah, that's a lot. What does that mean? She's like a ranting, raving c just I mean just to week all day and just have somebody like like like just working here and there's like four like sometimes I'm sure she's like three massuses. She's just like slowly weeping. I mean that was so iconic for you know, I did and then and then I feel like the time went too far.

People just bring it back. I mean that's I have like a lot of questions that are like not relevant, but I kind of want to just write. But I think that's good enough. Sometimes it doesn't really matter. People do like to see like a good impression, even if it comes from Serri wheel and Nette thing. I was like, this is a twenty year old movie, but like, yeah,

I have a Bill Paxton that I love. Yeah, but but I I've been talked out of putting it in my like submissions and reels and stuff like so good. But the thing is, like I see it sucking these straight guys doing these these fucking throwback impressions and no one cares. They do it all the time. Then I wear is their brain? I don't know, that's all I see it all. I didn't stand up. Yeah, yeah, what

are you? You're talking about caddy shacks? Still, I know that's interesting to me because it's like man like if if you know what I mean, like a different do it liked to pull up Michiko Kakutani impression. Who cares what the references are? I mean, look as long as it's good, it's good, I think, rather than timely. I've done some bad timely stuff. There you go. Yeah, because you feel like you have to, you have to rather than do something of the past, right right, right right,

I mean I'm in whip out all my starwards. You have no idea how good this Bill packs just away and it was like, oh, but it's a very good. But it was based on the Twister attraction at Universal Studios, So he's in the in the Twister Attractions pre show or deally departed that ride no longer. He just standing there in the craziest stance, just talking about how a twister is the worst thing you can go through and laugh.

It's got the force of a he's just like truly and the way his body is position the funniest Wooden performance ever. Talking about it on podcast The Ride Coming to Forever Dog Network Position. It's a really good podcast. I'll give it a plug. It's a really good podcast where every single the time they have a different guest on talking about a different theme park attraction and I'm a theme park bitch. You are? Do you with the Island? Then deeply with Oland, I'm jealous of you because you're

going there right after that, that's great. I felt deeply with it. I've done the cycle in a couple of times. Really, I'm just I think it might go tonight. Do it. You gotta do one ride, Just do the Cyclone fantasy, and that's one reason to do when they go upside down. Oh no, no, Cyclone doesn't go upside. So I like the old like you could die. One ye, you might die on it. You might die, you might, But the thing is that is to die an iconic coast. I mean,

that's an iconic coast. Be amazing, amazing day. I hope that one day I'm on it and it just flies off the trucks and I go, you love me like and I deeply die, go right into the ocean and I'm like, and you dine a ball of fire and I die like Beyonce Chloe. I am just this sounds so obnoxious. No, no, no, the day that someone does the Chloe Fineman impression, what happens then that that is

that's snakeating, It's on top. I in Groundlings, I'd always do these things where they'd like teach characters or impressions and they'd be like, let's do someone in the class, and then would always be like, drove, like do Chloe, And it's always somebody. Yeah. I don't know what the impression would be. I think an impression of me would be so insulting. It would be someone's screen would be what you literally just like see what I mean? Can

I do? No? I was going to do an impression, but I can ask a stupid question, would it makes sense if you were to ever do an impression of yourself stupid? I don't know, it doesn't work. I mean I know that like uh forever, I like in school, I was they were always like stop smiling while you talk Northern California, like because we kind of like talk like this, and I don't know, I talk out of the side of my mouth a lot like that was just how I grew up talking. Um would probably be

like she's being inappropriate in her dad's mad. You know, I don't think I could do an impression just because I'm around you, Tom, around you too much ever doing it. Yeah, it's it's it's the closeness we don't have the critical

I don't have anyone call me out. I would appreciate it, or like I always make fun of my friends and doing impression I've ever had because Chloe like you, Like I've seen you answer questions like yes or no questions with like sounds and like physicality, like you're like like like, but I'm saying like that, that's not me doing a impression, but I'm saying that's you, like going to that place default in your mind is like so inspired and like, oh,

like that's like that's where it all comes from. It's like thinking in those terms of like yeah, it's just very like it's just like Chloe being like and it was very animated because I say I'm animated. It was weird too, because like Melissa Vy did it Jenny Slate impression on Instagram. Jenny didn't like it. Maybe she will smash like button, but I was just like, oh, that's so interesting to like do someone like I don't know, Jenny.

Iconic comic is like interesting, that interesting, Yeah, most of doesn't. Whitney come in, she's really good, and your Silverman she does Comedian and those are all really easy. I mean Sarah silver And I feel like that's like she has a state of manner of being which is like you like it's a car, it's like and he does so many like iconic things. But I don't do Amy Schumer. But because I saw someone do it online, I think

she's friends with you guys. She's in New York. She did an Amy Schumer that was like flawless, really, and when someone does that, I don't touch it, Like Chelsea David since Lendon done him. That's I mean, that's very cool that like you have such respect for that to you want to go to go near it. That's why that's why Paxton I crushed the piston. It is on my old character, which is on Yeah. I mean, maybe that'll change, but for now, it's definitely like, oh I can't. Yeah,

that's wonderful. That is like the platonic ideal for the craft of just having that respect for other people. Sacred, sacred beach psych Grid. I think it's time. I think it's time. I don't think yes, did I not remember? We never put it all together, but now we're here, we'll go first time or if you cannot think of something we can drop into, actually have a good one, can you do? So this is Matt Rodgers. I don't

think so, Honey, his time starts now. I don't think so, Honey. Starbucks, when you say pumpkin spices back, have the ingredients ready to make pumpkin spice, Because let me tell you something, when you say pumpkin spices back, guess who's going to be the first person in line, honey, me the bitch. And when I step up and order a pumpkin spice and event a frappuccino form and then I have to wait twenty minutes. Honey, I've not a happy customer. I

don't think so, Honey. When I have a fucking full conversation with the employee, and we will say how excited you are about pumpkin spice, and how you know we're not. Basically, we're just living our life because it's good. And then the same young woman is having a hard time finding the ingredients. It's like, Honey, you posted it up on the chalkboard. You posted it up on the commercials let's

get ready with the pumpkin spice. You had the audacity to advertise everyone pumpkins spice and back, I'm gonna come. I'm here, so give me a pumpkin spice. I'm waiting, hont and you know that, gizzy. Honey, it's New York. I need my pumpkin spice right now, honey. And that's one minute. I'm just saying, like, if you're going to get me all up in timkin, do you like pumpkin spice? I don't you know what. I'm back on the cycle of liking it again. But I think I I mean,

I think I should and I'd be a more whimsical person. No, no, no, I don't think I should have gotten a venty. Yeah, but that's so much, you know, it was so much, and then you overdo it because it becomes like in everything. I wanted to make myself feel better after a RESTful situation, and so then I went and got my pumpkin spice and I was like, oh yes, And honestly, you know, here's the thing. It's actually a rule of culture. You never actually want a large. Say it with me, You

never actually want large. You always want a medium, bitch or a grand. If you will, you just you will never need that much volume or something. You swear to God. We were in Penn Station the other day, me and where to God you were? Yeah? Where was that? Was I with you? Oh? I think I was with my sister? Okay, what do you do? Oh? I was with my sister and I went to go get um smoothie and I was like, I love a large without looking at the sizes, and they were like, are you sure you want a large?

And then I looked over and I swear to God, the large was this big? They downa crazy. I was like, oh my god, no, I want a small, which is like a fucking bucket. They down sold that. That's crazy because because even they were human beings and could tell that I wasn't going to finish this. But you guys, you never want a large. You never want a large. Mean if they tell you it's fifty cents more, well, and then they get you in the movie theaters to they do, do you want to make that a large?

For Adlarmore? And you always go, I mean, yeah, no, it's a waste. I always say, no, are you a popcorn kind of kind of? I'm not like dieting. We always say a rule of culture, popcorn doesn't count. Popcorn is air, okay? And I don't think so, Honey, he thinks he has one. I think so, And as time starts now, I don't think so. Many anyone who has not seen the Teddy Perkins episode of Atlanta I just saw last night, and I granted I am four and

a half months late. It is one of the best episodes of a television I've ever seen in my life. It is so bizarre, it's so viscerally upsetting and funny and tragic, and I don't know, this is not the most interesting I don't think so many. But I'm saying everyone has to watch this and now, even if you are not familiar with the show, although context does help. Um Lekeith Stanfield turns out an amazing performance. What a

beautiful actor, beautiful person. Hunky hunky hunky. Look love l Keith, but he he's like the cookie crazy guy and in the whole show out but like to see him play straight man against Donald Glover in White Face is truly stunning. I will never forget this episode of television. I have to go back and watch it. There's a there's a scene with an ostrich Et. I won't spoil it, but it is the most viscerally upsetting thing I've ever seen in my life, and I wanted to throw up. Alex,

you know what I'm talking about. I've seen this. It's you have to watch it. It's so good. Ever, get thee to a Funnery and watch the Teddy Perkins episode. That's lesson, I don't think so, honey, and more just a statement of appreciating and that's okay, and that's okay, you know, and that's okay, and that's okay. It's whatever you want to make it. I haven't seen that episode. So that was and I don't think so honey. On me, you need you have you watched any of Atlanta? It's

on my list. You would stand for Zayz Beats. Watch She's fabulous. Do you watch Atlanta? I have a crush on yeh should watch it. He's so good. He he is in white face. He plays this eccentric billionaire type of person. Oh my god, she's incredible. It's it's truly insane this episode. Anyway, So now we have someone to do and I don't think so, honey, that has previously subverted the form by doing her. I don't think so, honey.

On Greta Girlwick and another person I could do, but I maybe they want but we're going to find out right now. This is Chloe Fine, I don't think so honey. Her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so, honey. White man who says he cannot get through Ninette four guys to be like, I tried to watch it, but like, I don't know. I only lasted thirty minutes. The whole point of the Nette is the thirty minutes that come

after your that cannot stand. Her first half is hilarious and all sorts of jokes and the fact you can't even get past that because everything is to be hetered to you and your dick humor the fact that you don't get it, or you find her boring, or it's like, not get out of your fucking you're going to learn, open your eyes and your ears. I cannot stand. I cannot stand because you don't find her attractive, or sometimes

it's really why you don't like today jokes. You're never gonna you're never gonna expand you're never going to be woke and you can't man explain the net to me, which is ultimately what you probably want to be able to do, because it's funny be closed. I just thought it boring, Like I don't know, I didn't really get it. And you know, we've actually talked about this a bunch. But the thing is, like you guys, yeah, it's just not it is for you. It's just not for you

to explain. Yeah, like to I came, yeah, three guys since being in New York, We're like, yeah, then I tried to watch it, God, like why bring that? It's something that impression and also like it really gets good if you keep watching. But she's really a fine wine

than that. Yeah, talk, you mentioned something that I think is very do which is the fact that you know, because they can't and don't fuck her, or like they have no desire to do that because she's not for them, or like she's not presenting herself sexually for them, like there is a block there. Yeah, it's such a thing and the thing about and there's even some backlash I think from even like weird places, like I think I've heard queer people be like, I don't know, or just

people be like is it comedy? Though it's like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Like you're not gonna you're not gonna be the one to like define the parameters of what this is and if this is hurting the form, you're kidding me, you're going to be the person who died and made you king. Like I do understand the backlash behind like the like sexicide,

I don't. I don't understand the backlash, but behind people saying, um, well it's not comedy, but it absolutely the first thirty minutes, which I kept rewatching for the stupid impression is it hilarious? Joke after jog after joke, But then she brings it all back together towards the end, or it's like, oh,

this is like a masterfully done piece. But even if it were, even if it weren't funny in the way that like people needed to be, you cannot be the gatekeeper of someone going on a stage and performing art like that's just that's what this is, you guys, you

know that's what we all do. You go up there, you get a reaction the way that you can, and and if you don't understand that reaction or aren't giving that reaction the way other people are, or couldn't get that reaction in that same way, that doesn't mean it's bad or doesn't deserve a place. It just means it's different and there should be more different kinds of art.

I think that's what's killing people is that they don't see it in the narrow way that they've had to come up or they've told they were told is the way you succeed. So it's like, how could this person be succeeded. I also am like really inspired by her thing to not self have to self deprecate. Absolutely. I never even thought about I never thought about it until it's true. It's true. Did you into a million times at JFL I saw her order something and I was scared.

I was genuinely like stars check weren't elevated with her and I would have lost. I was like, I can't believe how I am not like leaping. Yeah, Tiffany Hattries came out of an elevator in a ballgown. Yeah, Jesus, I would have sparkly red ball account. It was crazy to all be space with people like that. Yeah, it's so so crazy. But just the fact that she was like treated poorly there, I just she was so so I did not hear like stand ups like. She got heckled at the show that leaves a Trader her own.

She was heckled at her gallup and then do some some random what's that? Who who? And a fucking leaves a trigger hosted this other show that she was on, and then the comic went up afterward was like, yeah, Hannah Gaspy hasn't said a funny thing in her life like you, I can't, and he's proving her whole FI needs to end coming. I've been at three stand up shows this week here and everyone is heckling. You really never seen anything. I'm not I'm not in my I'm

not in the bubble that I feel safe in. But these like straighty shows, heck heckle city. They were heckling um, do you know? Yeah? I love him he was they were heckling him. Oh my god. This guy would heckle and then this girl would turn around in high five him. We'll have fun going back to whatever. I know. And I really was like so tempted, just like, why don't

you get on stage? Yeah? Yeah, your day. Travis like truly the most unimpeachable comedian out there, like so likable and so great and so great, let's say it hot. He knows I think he's hot because he's posted there's traps where he's sure left. One time I went under. I went up after him a set, and my whole first minute of my set was how hot? It was so hot? And so yeah. I lingered after the show and was like, hey, yeah, are you I thought that was really good. Yeah, just here for a little while,

so obviously for a couple of days. Yeah, how New York? Where do you live? Yeah? Oh cool. He also has a tattoo um that I shouldn't well whatever, he has a tattoo that I he said was a wolf but looks like a new That's a great conversation. Start. I love about you know what talk about at the wedding? Bringing up at the wedding? Wow, what a fun episode. We love, we love So is there anything coming up for you? People can see you? You have like shows coming up in the la la um. No it's on

the net. Or you're crazy for not You're crazy for not following. Chloe's crazy. Truly about that bitch? About that bitch someone? We love you so much. I love you, guys, I really didn't listen. This is a love fest and that's what we love. That's what we love, and actually leads into the song that it's gonna sing. We're gonna sing and we're gonna you know a song when did you love You? And that's um okay, we need to start singing. We can't do the garthen Cat thing I

think we need to do. Can I tell you what? I've been listening to a lot because our last episode was exclusively about her. Wait, and I really don't like every Levine, but I'm gonna have to sing this song we go Did you think that I was gonna get up to you? And episode I was gonna do and try. I don't try to tell me what to do. Don't try to tell me what to say. You're better off that way, trip that to put me on, mess me up. I've done no wrong. I don't know the rest. I

don't know the rest. And then the chorus again, we love Ovril. Well that's the song we're closing out on this episode. We love you, we love Chloe. Uh Like, Subscribe, listen, review, live comments by This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Bahum, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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