"You Can Take It Back (Hugh Hefner is Alive)" (w/ Peter Smith)

but we know what. It opens up the show this episode, but we just roll with it. We hope you you can strap yourself in for the ride, if you know what, guys. Um, clickbait is real, and sometimes clickbait can be really shockingly detailed and fucking fake as fuck. That's how they get you. Yeah, honestly, I'm telling you. He was dead at the age of ninety one, found in his home. They went into detail about how like, uh, he had been like succumbing to

illness for some time. Listen, the man is alive. He's alive. He's alive. But um, you know what, we sort of look back on his legacy and all of that still stands, So enjoy the episode. We're so sorry this was fake news, and enjoy it. Thanks. My grandma and your grandma was sitting bad fire. My grandma to your granda, I'm gonna sit back on fire. You're talking about hin? I like, go on day Jagomo, I'm Jagmo. Don loves culture racist? Who is dead? Who's dead? Hugh Hefner, Oh, Mike, wait

what today? He died? Just now? What are you kidding? God? What dead? At? Yes? I did wait and this is yes Peter Peters jumping it? Well, absolutely not. But now that you have, let's welcome our guests into the conversation. No, absolutely not. All three of us will talk about this. Okay, everyone, we have an incredible guest with us. To amazing, amazing. They they are just they were floored by the information. They were fore by the information. She's such a wonderful performer.

You've seen the performing Carolines on Broadway. They have a show coming up August at the Duplex Um and you saw them open the I Don't Think so Hony Live first installment with their amazing impression of Minette Benning. Look for that please please please do And they were going to be at the second live show on August eleven. Yes, and they are a star in the upcoming limited series on Forever Dog podcast called Turner Master's Memory Hospital. A star in a start and we we might have a

little role in that too. We can't wait to listen to it. Yes, absolutely. I think their name is Peter Smith. Now, Peter, what say you about the death of you? Um? I need to see a like a tweet notification or some kind of proof, because I Peter needs to see the body. I just like, it's so shocking to me. Can you believe? Talk about a death of culture? But I'm sorry, Yeah, this is the world we live in though now, where we don't believe news unless it's in a Washington Post notification.

He yeah, well the magazine is shifted now right there's no naked I feel like, yeah, it's changed right now. It's like there, it's like it's it's like a lifestyle just a general lifestyle magazine and there's just funny articles and sudd I think it's kind of important playboy absolutely, but like the death of him kind of like it's this like sexual thing. Was he a gross guy? But

also not in a pejorative way. I mean, I'm not saying this like in a negative ways as to like, um, you know, shame that it was it was important, what he did was important. Well, I guess it's different for every woman, right, of course, whether whether they all felt I'm sure we can't gauge whether they all felt empowered doing that. No, that's not up to us. That's not up to us, you know what, not even close, not even at all. And I resent I retract my previous

statement I made thirty seconds ago. I have no opinion. I have none. That's your cultural right. That's my cultural rule number forty eight, no rule number forty three of culture, because I'm sure we haven't add Yes, it's your cultural right to take back in an opinion. Absolutely absolutely, Peter, how about that? I agree, Peter. Okay, So I'm sorry we just launched right into this. Wow, this is the first for the show. What's a long held opinion of yours?

A long held opinion about what? Anything? About anything? Anything? What have you held an opinion about all your life? Long? But you'd like to take back? This roller coaster started and we're on it. This is it the opinion I've had my whole life. I don't know that, like, uh, dudes look great in makeup? Yes, okay, but you and I mean the rules. I agree to you the rule as you can retract that, but we're not doing that.

I'm not going to. You know, you can take back that if you want to, if I want to that. If you see me in a full beat later and you don't think it looks very good, you can take iteous. But Peter, I want to say, um, not to play devil's advocate, but I've been wearing makeup this week for for just for shows and such, and I saw, oh, yes, that's right in makeup three nights out of this week. I think I look just awful in makeup. Just when you're talking about your makeup. Can we talk about we

can talk about we can talk about sluck. But here's the thing, Peter. You don't understand Bowen came out for a night soap in his actual beat that Ruby real, what's up? Ruby to Bowen? And you don't understand the crowd gas, I'm but the gorgeous beauty, beauty. I refused to sit here and tell you that you look bad and I don't you're lying. I just it's hard. It's hard. It's it's hard for I'm going to say it, it's hard for Asians because our eyes are so almond so ruby.

Put on a lot of liner and my eyes just disappeared, and I just I just looked like a beautiful skull. I think you looked like a glamorous Okay, he looked like one of the most beautiful creatures ever to Grace's stage. It was shocking when he came out and I had been seeing him all day in the makeup, and Bowen stepped out into the light nique and I was like,

oh my god, she's here. Speaking of beautiful stage visions, I just want to and it's it's because Peter's here, but it's also because I truly believe it's to be empirically true. Most beautiful thing I've ever seen on stage was Peter at Carnegie Hall at the three Busy Dever show Angel Wings a mesh see through. I keep forgetting I didn't have any clothes on. You looked amazing, Peter. That was my introduction to you as well. Really that

was your first time seeing the first time. That was the first time I ever saw you too, because I could see everybody in there, because never off that no vile vile Hall. We had the Vile Hall because you know famously Carnegie Hall not just one hall, in fact three. But it's a it's an honor to perform in any of them. Absolutely an honor and expensive and expensive. Well but okay, explain to me this whole light situation. It was it would cost you money to turn them off.

There are so many I mean, you know you guys ever heard of unions? Oh? Yeah, yeah, so they're great and they apply to Carnegie Hall. So there's just lots of stuff that if you need this to be done, you'll have to hire someone to do it union. And then you get you know, it's just like a girl. It adds up. Sure, okay, that's fair, okay, because you would have if you turn the lights off, we would need a tech persons. I say that that makes sense, like another thousand dollars eater. Um, how are you? How

am I? This weather? That is kind of take I mean not to talk about the weather, but really now in the heat of summer and then today had this kind of chill, really appreciated it. Yeah, it's been so much and this has been nice over the last several days, I've been saying to myself, am I really sick? Or do I just live in Manhattan like I feel I'm constantly carvered in a film. You're an uptown girls, a town girl. You are Spanish Harlem, living in life in

Spanish Harlem, live in life, just like a movie stars. Wait, which song was this, Marie Maria John. I'm saying there's a rose in Spanish? Do you know that? Does anyone know that? The Elton John. We're saying two different Spanish Harlem songs. Here's here's a third. It's an Elton John deep cut and now no Spanish Harlem er not just pretty words to see Elton Elton. I know, I feel like I feel like Elton was here. I when Elson gonna. Sorry, sorry I went there, Okay, you went there and we

loved it. No, we want to talk about the legends, dyeing the legend. You know who's going to be a sad one Stubbs, Stevie Steview. I think I had to think us. My first w wonder not that Stevie Dubbs isn't like maybe the one, the one Stevie to rule all Stevies. But whenever he's whenever any of the Max

and the Fleets die. I whenever once that happens is I'll be a wreck, No Joanie, when Joanie passes, when everyone always talks about that, everyone's always like God, when Mitchell, I'm like, stop saying that, right, like a breeze through the planes, and like every wildflower will quiver quiver, yes, and they'll make a sound like a flu yeah, like yeah,

and the caves will echo. It'll be when Johnny dies, the plants will know first, and every child in Canada will be orphaned, and Mark Albrooke will flee the town that he lives in with his family. These plants is talking places walking, Peter, Um, we are going to ask you what we ask all of our guests. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that is what was the culture that made you a young Peter think culture is for me. Yeah. So it's the culture that made you say to yourself, you

know what now I'm ready to think about this. Yes, in terms of your growth. Um, the film too Wong Food, Thanks for everything, Julie near amazing answer. I would watch that straight up on a loop and yeah, because that

was like, oh yeah, that's what I was like. I supposed to, okay, Yeah, and then I did in terms of what in terms of like like comedy performance are like like gender gender like it was just like, oh, these like guys that are born with a male bod, like are fucking around with ship and like funny performances, like good performances in a real way, like yeah, like in a just like being honest. And then like the small town I love a fish out of water, yes,

fish and those were three fishes water of water. Okay. And then and you said you mentioned small towns and does this sort of track back to your origins at all or no? I mean I was in like the bourbs, small suburbs of Chicago, so yeah, it was kind of this like oh this like community whatever. But then I did Dragon fifth grade. Wow, you know what in what capacity? Just like you have to. I have it on YouTube. My dad filmed it really okay, incredible, very incredible. Yes,

I give us paint it for us with words. The blue velvet curtain opens Ship. I am standing with like a blonde kind of like bump it with that flows down a little bit of a there's a good burn nous to my right, like because I'm kind of like rubenesque fat fifth grader and like this hair is big and peroxide blonde, and then I have there's like cape on and I'm all black covered up, and then the beginning of I Will Survive starts, and I didn't really get the lip sync thing. I was like, no, I'm

going to sing. I'm supposed to sing like this is in the lip sync. This is like I will. So I sang over the track and they're like, want your mic on? And I was like, of course, have my mic on? So I kind of bleed it along with the track. Did this like reveal with this cape to like this sparkly look, had someone backstage jan Boa, It was like a fully produced Yeah, it's the greatest before I Ever, how did this opportunity arise? The fifth grade

talent show? Oh it was a talent show and you did drag in the talent Yeah, of course what can follow that? Sucking a baton twirler? But fucking the popular girls doing a dance to what? Fucking the girls protected by Brittany Janet Jackson? All for you? It was it was always all for you. All those stupid pitchers were doing dance routin for you. They all are and guess what rule number one hundred and one of culture, Janet

Jackson for you? It wasn't for you know, I did not finish that rule because I don't know that are these rules also opinion? Can you take them back later? I was exactly gonna say, I recently, thank keeping. You can take it back any opinion, and that includes rules. And we've just built a new rule into the rules of culture. It's incredible how cyclical it all is. Yeah, sure, now, Peter, you took it upon yourself, and it wasn't It wasn't

even like a resourcefulness thing. As a fifth grader. You were just like, oh, I am going to dress this way, and and it was just there was no friction about it. You just did it. Yeah, well I would wear like skirts at home or whatever, like just like with my sister, we'd like funk around and then like of course until like middle school, you're not like well, at least we

weren't really. It wasn't like boys girls. So we had this like sleepaway thing where it was like the boys and the girls would sleep separate, and every time that would happen, I would be with like the losers because it was like, no, we didn't have any like dude friends. And then I in fifth grade was like, oh, no, this is hilarious. I'm going to do this because like I didn't think like, oh I need to express this because it doesn't really exist yet, but like, this is hilarious,

I'm going to pose it. That around fifth grade like your nine ten however, many years old. But I just distinctly remember fifth grade being like the beginning of what I thought I started to absorb was like being internalized and like developing within. It's when you awaken sexually, right, I mean the majority of people, and it's not that it has to do exactly with sexuality, but like you start to become conscious or more conscious of how the world sees you and how you're responding to what you're

supposed to be in the world. You get social, so then you get there, you go exactly that's it. I remember that was when that was when it all kind of went to help for me and being self conscious because I wasn't. I wasn't there, Like I wasn't the kind of person that was like, oh this is funny,

this is all a construct. I mean that didn't become that didn't become aware to me until like I guess, like two or three years ago honestly or actually knew what the sentence gender as a construct, like what it meant? I mean, but it just seems like you were very precocious that Peter, I. I guess no, you know, own it? Sure? What does precocious really mean? I think, um that you're ahead of um your own time. That God done this? Well,

this sucks. It's like a such as child is like a child who behaves in sort of an advanced matter, an advanced man. Okay, I'll take yes, I was. Yeah, I told when I was a kid, people would say that and I'd be like, why you know, you're like shut up something that shut up? It is like an irritating thing to say to someone when you're a kid. And then yeah, yeah, you're a really old soul, Like what does that mean? I'm not fitting in and you're

calling it out because I'm aware of it. Something different than okay, great, Yeah, thank you, thank you for underlining that to Wong Foo. Um God, I draged movies in general general, right, yeah, Mrs doubt find some of those are like fucked up? Is RuPaul important to you? Rupa? The opening of too Wong Foo. She like comes down in a Confederate flag. Wow, she's hosting this drag competition.

So and then she doesn't come back. It's like there's this like cameo from someone who's like actually an amazing drag queen this movie that then these three straight dudes take on too. But RuPaul right now, yes, I mean yeah I don't. I don't watch drag Race. Is there a reason for that? No, yeah, I'm just not interested. Yeah, And then I sometimes I'm I would like seeing it live, yes, totally,

like even like comedy specials. I'm like, this is funny, but like it's it's interesting that there's a whole now millions of people that watched Drupaul's Drag Race, and the vast majority of them have never been to see Dragon and would yeah and wouldn't understand what drag even is live.

It's so funny to me, Like when people kind of take issue with drag queens for their behavior on the show, it's like, well, you've never been to a real drag show then, and you've never seen d because if you think like this is subversive what they're allowed to get away with on v H one, like you don't even understand what rose pedals spunk them from your head. Yeah you saw that, well you saw that. You saw us do that live and that was a trick and I've

seen money. Yeah, it's like that's kind of that was an iconic moment in whatever. Yes, it's become quite the meme. It's become a very perfect prolific meme. I'd say out of the nine seasons, i'd say it's in the probably top ten iconicized and like intentionally, like like there was a lot of thought put into that. Yeah. Yeah, I think she knew what she was doing. Totally, totally, totally, um yeah, I mean other drag movies, some like It Hot,

some like that was. My grandma told me to watch that because I would like burn out the two long food tapes and she's like, why don't you watch this one? And then that one is funny? In what way is that movie funny? Is it is? It? Is? It? Like? It can't get no? The joke is like they're boys actually, which just like I don't know I was. I was just like soothed by seeing like dudes with dresses on. Yeah, you haveely exist in this world and like I get

that whatever, and they were doing it. But then usually the punch line was the thing where it's like, oh no, this is I guess like Mrs Doulfer. At the ending, it's like, you don't do that because then everyone's mad at you and it's very wrong. Yeah, and it's like you, yeah, like you. It's there. It's kind of fucked, but the rest of it is great. There you go, Sally Field the whole time, the whole time, the whole time. You know that line. I haven't seen it in in a minute.

I thought you haven't seen it. Um, Oh my god, Joel was talking to me about that show Emerald City. Oh, what's the new Wizard of Oz. It's like it's like a sort of a Game of Thrones layer on top of the like a Wizard of Oz prequel? Were our readings where why and we go in for that? Um And apparently Ozma so in the in the Frankel Bomb books, Ozma. I think Ozma is like the it's like some princess. I'm not I don't quite understand the whole mythology. I

don't know her. I don't know her, so thank you, Matt. But Ozma is apparently born a princess and um longs longs to be a boy, and so there's that journey. But then and so so so that's so that's very interesting. But then in the show, for some reason that the creative people behind this show took it, took it upon themselves too complicate that by having Ozma like talk to the Wicked Witch of the West, who is sort of a sympathetic character, and the witch wants to help Ozma transition.

But then but then the other witchards are like, no, Ozma, no, there's oz has to have a princess. So then, for some reason, this is just an added thing. Droll was telling me Ozma is like resigned to their gender, going back to yes being being female, and I was, and then we were just all like why would they do that? I don't know. It's like, let's you know what, this is a this is a Wizard of Oz prequel in

the high fantasy world. Let's let's let's gender. Let's go in there, let's talk about it, right and part anyway, I think people are like, really, they're trying to get on the ground floor a little bit with that. It's about the next thing. It's like, well, they ate ass on ABC, So what do we gotta do? They actually yes, on How to Get Away with Murder? Those boys ate each other's butt holes right up? They ate it right up. Wait, what's that guy's name? Jack Fallon and the other one,

Connor rick A Mora is the guys he's actually gay. Yeah, but they played a cut face. He's got the Oh they're both super cute. In fact, we went to we went to college. We didn't know him, but we went to college. Jack Valley, I can't can point him out. Yeah, he's handsome and eights on TV, and you know, for ABC, I guess that was a lot. But but now it's

funny because they're all there. It's funny that you say that, because they're all like, all right, how do we do the next outrageous thing they or may not appropriate a whole people. Yeah, it's I mean. Also, the way that the guy got his butt it was so funny, like they were having dialogue and like making out and then the guy just like flips him over very like like kind of like cinematically, and the guy just throws his

head back and goes, oh, that's how it happened. Cartoon. Yeah, and at at home all the middle aged women watching it, We're like, oh, I felt it on my button because he was such a good actor. And then I'll like of us are just like kind of watching the highlight reel one. It's like I heard the eight s on television? Did you see this the eight s on television? Here's the link? Watch this, yeah, I mean the link. Yeah.

We never consume it. Just from the primary it was just like eating as on television, watching by Failly he second clip, I mean context, no banks, I think I think that's my media diet. Now it's just compilation videos. I was I was literally talking about a compilation video. Wait, what was I talking about? When I came in something? Oh, when you came into the to this room, into this room, it was a compilation about something. Oh, it was about

why Hilaries wink in Hollywood? Why everyone in Hollywood's negative content? Why did you want? Because he was again he was interested. I fell for it, and um, there are such a negative companies. It's awful, awful, And I love Hillary Swanks so much. And I was like, yes, I'm telling you, wondering why everyone else doesn't. I'm wondering how Yes that And I truly was changed by her sentil episode because it had some of my It had a great she played a great heide clue. She she was was this

two three or something? She um, I need to watch. Her musical guest was fifty uh and she The first sketch was this morning talk show called the l A Face I think, and it was about the botox lifestyle all that or something and um, and Hillary Swank played this botox woman and um, botox woman box a woman. I'm sorry and she um and her story was her character was that she was operating UM. Oh no, no, no no no. So she was like, I work in the in the entertainment industry, so I had to get botox.

I felt, I had to get botox. And then my Rodolf plays the host and she's like, here's a photo of you. Here's a bit for a photo of you, and it's just just a really nice looking head shot of Hillary's like with like a Universal Studios a rollercoaster behind her. She was like, yes, I work in the entertainment industry. I operated the roller coaster. She was just very committed and good and I was like, yeah, I

love Hillary Slank Now I always have. It's true when whenever they come on and I hosted damn good episode of s Now and they're committed and they can pull it off. I do have more respect for them, and when they're trashed, I'm christ had a good episode. Yes, or she kind of just killed it with that. She did a really good and that was transphobic and that was transported to like what Samantha I did live I do live in the district. I was like, come on, she did a good voice and also, um, she's also

the musical girl. She did one of those like double turns. Yeah, like I can do it all, but she can do it all. Have you seen burlesque? I love culture. That then catapulted me into any kind of new light. My favorite scene in burlesque is shares like I gotta go home and they're like a song. Yeah. The thing is, we set the lights and we rehearsed, we we were it's all ready for it's all set up. She's like, alright, just one puts her shi down this like huge ballot. Yeah,

I've never seen it. Oh my god. And Kristen Bella plays a great she does It was like a hot kind of naked walking around and being like wait, why, what's his name. What's his name? His eyeline around the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's his name? He's hot. Cam Gigain did one of those you'll see you're like, oh, yeah, you someone was trying to make us like you for a while. He was. He was on the o C as Marissa's like edgy like boyfriend who like maybe was abusive.

Not all of our track, no, no, no, later on in this season, like right before she died in a tragic car accident this season three, did you watch the o C? Yeah? Excellent, he was on that. It's all

on Hulu. Did you know? I did. I did know because I was watching The Bachelor OUTE the other day and I watched the last episode and then they just started in OC episode and I was like, oh my god, because they're like, whoever was watching The bed Store it wants to watch the o C. That's what they or they just need to know what's on here because they're gonna be like, oh I didn't know that. Yeah that's it. Yeah. I mean I feel like everyone has my this opinion.

I'm about to share, but no, maybe not. I think share is shares number one, number one deepa for me. No, I've I've said on the show Selene before, but Share just how the personality that can't honestly can't write them, they can't have their own special like Selene. You can't compare Selene to Share that, No you can't. It's it's

very hard. But Share has just been since day one, since days of Sonny and Share, like just this funny started a person and she's evolved into this like caricature but still like so charming and interviews and like god, she was even doing an interview with RuPaul And in the nineties on v H one and she was just

so funny. So she's just so funny, she can handle She like a variety show, and it was like she went from that to like a pop career, but then she was like an actress, serious actress, and then she did it. It's like she just just like yeah, I'll do that. Yes, yeah, I'll do that. I can do that, I'll do that. I'll try that. She's really good at everything.

And the thing is, like you could even debate how good she is at everything, Like I don't think she's a tan in any area, but at least she's but she's clearly as something altogether it's just like you just can't take your eyes off, no superstar. This is the irony of irony. Is is that my father's favorite Western culture song is believed by share and I don't have

it in He's to tell him, I don't. I can't tell him that shares a gay icona, that this is a very queer song, because he would just immediately hate it and it would ruin the song for him. So then you have this kind of special thing where it's like you could put it on and he'd be like, oh great. You'd be like, oh yeah great. We would both enjoyed so much. You guys want to know when

he danced to it. He will sing along to it, and he doesn't know the actual title of the song because he only refers to it as Bowen play that a La la song, which is his fineticization of after love, After Love, he calls it a la la So it's the a la la song to him. It's like, I'm not so good. Yeah, that whole album it is such a gay song. It's it's such a I love it. I think Bob the Drag Queen had a bit we

did were You with Me? When we saw him live like before that he was and he was saying how like he was like getting driven around by his mom and it was when I believe is what kind of popular And you just hear the beginning of like like dude Dune and then he just like felt something change in him when it played, and his mom knew, like, oh, ship, I have a gay kid. It is a very sort

of seminal album. I will say, oh yeah, And then well, there really wasn't that much else on that album though, Taxi Taxi was a song song for the this that on that album. That album, Oh great, well then I love Um. I mean, I just want to say share. She had like wintry blonde hair on the album cover right it was black, okay, um, but I just want to say that children have forgotten share because now it's like,

oh she tweeted something so funny. That is a shame. Yeah, It's like she has such a massive canon of stuff to watch. You put her into YouTube. It's like this is from six It's like, fuck, yeah, she walks out in sixty years of ship to watch six years to watch and not to like just to fire anything. But her body beyond was just like just like actually just like cigarettes and and that, but the head but it was so beautiful and that the hair, the way the

hair beautiful, I mean, just a dream. That's ruse Number one Share Share. She is so smart and funny and charmie. I can't get over there's there's just you don't know where to start with. Share. I've never seen moonstruck. I've never seen it either. Whoops. She's just like a joy to watch. Do talk. You're like, yeah, I believe anything you say, and you're dealing with this right now, like even burlesque, like this is a great performance. Share. Yeah,

you are dropped in. I'll never forget. I love to do the monologue that Share gives to Christina Aguila when Christina egither sitting there like I don't know how to do my makeup, and like my mother would say, when you're doing your makeup, just like painting a canvas, except you're painting a face. Christina gets it, and then she becomes a superstar, full star, raised the curtain, Raise the curtain. When she goes yeah and shares like hold on and

everyone's like the girl growl. The mark of a great singer and vocalist is a growler. Imagine like the power going out and then someone doing that, and then it's like, no, let's keep this going, and then the band's like, I guess we'll play. Oh god, how can we keep up with her? I remember, like me being a little gay twelve year old, there was growls and everything I sang like pretending to be Kelly Clarkson singing. That was how I learned what vocalization for. You know, she did it. Yeah,

she started at the growl. You always started at the growl if you're a pop star. When she came to prominence on that show was when she sang RSPCT and she did no no, she was like giving you growls and riffs. I'm gonna And this is an opinion. They will not take back growls or gammicks, growls or gamics.

They are gummicks, but they work. Sometimes it's like hell yeah, but sometimes it's like you don't need that fine, No, yeah, I think I don't think you ever need it, but I do like to like to hear it because it makes me laugh. I think singing should be funny. Singing should be funny. That's should definitely give your joy. It should absolutely do that spark joy. You cannot were you

were taken to make that a cultural rule. I didn't want to make it a cultural rule because I'm sure all I want the people to come for me on social because I want to have a discussion about this, but um so I don't. I don't. I don't want to candle with the community. You just kind of want to spark. I do want to spark. You know what this is? People are really tweet us their opinions, and they get really impatient with us when we don't have new episodes, which we love, because please, we want you

to clamor for this. What did I someone read us for we did something wrong? Because we we butchered the synopsis for Three Company. Yeah, apparently, I actually didn't know what Free's Company, the television show was about. What did you say it was? I said it was he was a straight guy who pretended to be gay to live with those two women, which I just believe is it weren't they just like living together? I think that I don't think that's enough for a show. I'm sorry, I

don't think that's enough for a show. It was like there was a lot of stuff that's not enough for a show. It was different fact, Charlie's Angels. I mean, yeah, three women who are fierce with guns and you never see Charlie. I love it making a movie. You know what, they should they and they should make another one after that. Yes, full throttle, full throttle. I loved Charlie's Angels movie. I kind of just got lost thinking about it. Yeah, right, I had the DVD and I just loved I kind

of loved that. The sequel was just a beat for beat, the same movie as the first one. Like love them both. Like Cameron Diaz has like a dance. It's like seeing with with with Luke Wilson and Cameron. I'm sorry to no please rail the train, but Cameron Diaz is a miss Hannigan. I never saw. I never saw that because you know what, I thought it would make me violently ill, really weird. I mean yeah, I mean it's kind of it's kind of it's amazing. You think, Carol Burnett, you

think Cameron like all people. I mean, you think, like it's just like Jane Lynch in the Broadway version, and then Cameron d Has in the film adaptation. My God, Like nothing about it makes sense, Nothing about it makes sense. But it's kind of hilarious though, yeah, because what else I mean, who, well, who else was miscasting that movie?

Feel like, who's who played? Oh no, Jimmie Fox, Dy Warbock, Jamie Foxes, Daddy Warbocks, Rose Byrne was yes, yes, yes, cavan jen Ay Wallace was I heard how was she? Was she good? Well? She can't sing, she can't sing. The movie was not good. Right. You could argue that everyone was miscast, but you want you wanted to root

for it though, sort of from the side. I mean, Jamie Fox is talented, Yes, definitely, Rose Burne is the most talented and beautiful, smooth creature in the world, incredibly smooth, and then want talented. But it's just kind of like Cameron, I guess, yes, is talented. You had the stars, you didn't align them. Here's the thing, Cameron dis has star quality. I don't know if she's talented talented in terms of

versatile acting giving you everything. I think that she when she's directed well, can be phenomenal, Like I think that my best friends my best friend's wedding is like, I think she's amazing in it. That was her first role well after The Masters, and she was good in the Mask she did what she needed to do in the mask and then Best Friend's Wedding, It's like that whole movie relies on that you buying that character and also to like her, Julia Roberts, you like to despite that

character being awful as well. I think My Best Friend's Wedding is like one of the underrated great romantic comedies. Well, it was like it weirdly set a template that was never followed again, does that make sense? Like it was like, oh, this is the way, but then no one, no one ever did that, right, It's like it was a romantic comedy that like was ultimately sort of a tragedy in the end, like there wasn't another guy for her to go to. She was kind of like, right, yeah, like

she it was a tragedy. Spinster, she was, Yeah, she dies, she dies at the end, she gets crushed by the cake. That's what a spinster is. And then no, but then yeah, like no one ever really followed that? Is this was that the wait? Did the the moment? I wake up a many iconic movies moments in that Also, I always

say one of my favorite scenes in any romantic comedy. Well, the opening is great, but it's when Cameron d as like Dermott Moroney has like runaway, and Cameron Diaz has trusted Julia Roberts to go ask him what's wrong, and Julia's, of course, you know, has her high jinks. She goes back and she's going to tell Cameron that he's not doesn't want to be with her anymore. So the way that she does say she does this Creme Brulet analogy.

She says, you're Creme Brulet, You're perfect, You're irritatingly perfect. Suddenly he realizes he doesn't want Creme brul he wants something else. Cameron goes, what does he want? Jello? And She's like, I could be Jello, and Julia's like, You're never gonna be Jello. Since it's an insane scene, it's so good, but they're so good. I mean, it's such a weird scene, but they're sooth and Cameron Diaz will never be Jello. She will never be She's like, I

have to be Jello. And also one of the great iconic moments in that movie, which I think made her a star, was the karaoke scene. Yes I don't really remember, I remember, I can see like the kind of shot of her like jumping around. She's petrified, and Julia Roberts thinks the way that she's going to break her down is by making her and she's petrified, and she really starts to cry and break down when she realizes that she has to, and she's like she starts off super shaky,

she's nervous, she's about to like fully break down. But then like eventually she wins everybody in the room over and then she's just the triumphant ending and then like like Julia Roberts, his character is like fuck, And it's because Cameron dis is endearing in a real way. Wow, I mean you know what like talking about this now, I'm just like yeah, like Cameron and and Charlie's Angels too, like full Star, she does not get to get the

credit she deserves. No, she jumps off that screen. I mean, there was a reason why she was like number one for a minute, and her salary was up there. She was getting paid like twenty meal out of all out of all three Charlie's and she was making the most moment. I saw the sweetest thing in theaters with like a babysitter, and I was who young. It was like a ratedar movie,

like let's see this movie. And then there was a seem like her mouth or like someone's mouth gets caught on a dick or something like the tongue ring gets caught on his dick. There's something where it's like the shot is her mouth over a dick for like ten minutes of trying to get like a dick out of this person's mouth. And then my baby was like, don't tell your parents took me to this movie, and I was like I won't. But then we were like chuckling about it. But it was this like secret, Oh cool,

I'm not telling my parents saw this dirty movie. I'm nine. Whatever the hell he got it though, because oh my god, yeah, this this happened with me with um something about Mary

and yes it was com in the hair. They come in the hair and it was just all these it was like three Chinese families that a dinner party and we were all like, let's watch a movie and I was like, yeah, like what seven And then they played it and I just did not understand what was going on with the comb in the hair thing, and they were like yead's gel and yeah, um, but Cameron, has you mentioned the sweetest thing, which has me to do another rule of culture. It's rule number thirty four of culture.

Christina Applicate always steals the movie always always I can Okay, she's the great icon of our time. She's the great Wait a minute, am I thinking I've seen an applicate? When I think of don't yes, yes, don't tell mom? The babysitting is the ultimate. If I could be in any remake of anything, it would be that. That should be you, Like, can you imagine just like baby saying I'm like no, Now I'm in corporate fashion and I like, oh god, how do I juggle this? Like you think?

Only you could do it, Peter, only you could do it. It's so good. And then she's like a fashion show at her house and she's she's like playing a forty year old one with kids. She's like sixteen, but you buy it, you because she's like five but playing an eighteen year old. So she looks, Oh, it's just perfect. Yeah, that was like, well, I guess while she was getting married with children, Oh yeah, when they were like you're a star. But then she she is, She's funny. She

is talk about staying power like she's a star. Of the stage. She's on Broadway. Yeah, she didn't Sweet Charity. She was nominated for a Tony she did. Oh yeah, like what the ten years ago? Right, it was a while back, but yeah, she was nominated for a Tony for Sweet famously broke her foot during a performance and finished the whole week of shows. I remember. I think Christina Applegate is gunning for that egot. I don't think she has, she doesn't have anything, but like, think about

what she's done. She's she's she's done Broadway, She's obviously done movies, TV and maybe she and she can sing. She is one where I would love to see that happen. I would love to see Christine Applegate one day like blow everyone away and win an oscar and like and like a sort of you don't see it coming, but it happens way like I guess for Jennifer Hudson it happened like exactly where it's like returned to the top.

And you know who else mcnathew, McConaughey, you know who used to think it will happen for Maggie mcgonay has a perfect example. Judy Greer. Oh, but to meet Judy Greers, like like then like she everyone everyone loves her because you can't of her. Yeah, I think, but she has to start that inflection now, like she has to start turning that trip around. Not that it's going anywhere bad, but it's like she should start. She was in The Descendants.

She had like a big dramatic part in the movie The Descendants with George Clooney, which I think was a ship movie, which was like eight years ago. Yeah, I guess you're right. It was a long time ago. The movie was like every sad dad. Yeah, I hate that. I've realized that Alexander Payne movies are the worst. It's like George Clooney is like playing a Hawaiian horrid? Who did? Who did? Oh? What's the aloha? O? God? Cameron Crowe? Cameron Crowe? Cameron Crowe? Who man? I used to love?

Why did you used to love him? Because Jerry McGuire was just like, okay, Jerry McGuire, super were permissible, Almost Famous not permissible for me? Okay, explain they secretly love almost Famous. I don't like that movie. It doesn't hold up because of the gay panic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's gay panic. And I haven't seem like a part of it. I think the plane scene, Yeah, I know

what you're talking about. They hack, they hack, joke it up when they're they all think they're going down in the plane, like all of still works on this plane. The plane's crashing and they're all like telling each other their secrets and the one guy's like, I'm gay, and then the plane rights itself and they're like I know, and it's just like comedic climax of the movie. And it's like, really, you're right, you know what I resent my opinion. You can do and you can do that.

You can do that here here it's a rule. Um oh. And also, um, I like hate love, love hate whatever. Elizabethtown really, especially especially with acting Paula Deane is acting in that movie. She's she she plays his aunt. All right. I remember thinking like that, Wow, like because I loved food celebrity. I love celebrity chefs. When I was like food celebrity, I love calling them food celebrity. I was

trying to think of food celebrity. I was thinking of a joke walking up the It was like, Oh, I'm a celebrity chef, and then it was like, no, I'm a Celebrity's chef, and I was like, that's not funny, but I will think of it and then throw it away. I think there's something, there's something there. But Pauladine was a celebrity chef and then she was a mom in a film, and I remember thinking like, wow, you've made the jump from like you're set your home in Savannah,

Georgia to now this like film with Kristen. Kristen's like playing her mom. Yeah, it's I mean, do you know this? Polden used to be aguoraphobic, like she would not leave the house, like she was a shut end. She was terrified.

That explains a lot of her comments. Absolutely, Like I'm saying she's still like a disgusting demon, poisonous demon sucks but um, it's but I just find her fascinating and it's just so funny that she's in Elizabethtown and she's like she's like, oh you like that, Like she's just oh wait, no, no, no, I can't. I watched Elizabethtown recently. It was on the Apartment and and I thought, oh, there's obviously like ten minutes left. The movie went on

for an hour and a half. I was like, if it's felt like the end the whole time and then at the end when when Susan Surrandon does that dance Susan about Elizabethtown. Susan Surandon plays Orlando Bloom's mother. Really yes, and she does a dance at the end on the stage positive and then everything starts. Did you see it? It's like she's she's doing it. Wait, listeners of last colature races confirm this. Susan Srandon like gets up on stage and does it dance. It's like her ex husband

who's Alando Bloom's Father's like funeral or something. And then something happens where the the like hanging pieces from the ceiling start to fall. Oh no, too much, but it's bizarre. And the whole time here and duns taken pictures but don't exist. That was her kind of thing. It was like, she's a photographer, she's a photographer. That that movie was the origin of the PDG. Yeah, Man Pixie dream Girl Like I really forgot which critic coined that phrase, but

it was based for Garden State. Now that she's lumped in with she's lumped in with that because Elizabethtown is so derivative of Garden State. But yeah, are they both in New Jersey. You know that Elizabethtown is in Kentucky, southern hence the Dean, hence the dean. What was it? What was that? How you look dead like your lad? There you go, thank you dead date. That's my politican impression in Orlando Bloom. I here's the thing about Orlando Bloom.

He was naked recently. He was naked recently with his dick out, like very near to Katie Perry's back. And you have a story about him. I've told it on the pod before. He was screaming a crazy in the McDonald's. He was, Yeah, he was in front of me at McDonald's at three in the morning and he was just screaming and just um, just yelling at the people behind the counter about like he was like, why aren't you feeding this homeless person who is standing next to me?

He was advocating for the homeless, but not gracefully. Are there any other Perry Katie Pry like a Katie Perry lacking, lacking grace but with questionable intention? Um okay, let's take this moment now to read off one of our rules of culture. Yes, it's a fan submitted rule of culture. Yes, and um, let me let me just pull this right now. I think which fan I believe this is. This is from our very good friend Sutie Green. I was getting a coffee two days ago. Where was it at Riet

Riete or whatever? No is in. I was on the way to work and I stopped at the Whole Foods on Bedford and Forest, and I got a coffee there because they had the almond milk I like. So she walks in from swimming and she's like, oh my god, and we had kind of a convo in line. Yeah, it was just kind of like a enjoy your day seeing comedians first thing in the morning is the best. I see Annie Donnalley. Sometimes she's a treat to eat. We gotta get we gotta get her on I'll be

a wild coaster. Yea of an episode Annie's only did you get? Did Annie Donley read you? I know I didn't put my name on that thing. Okay, okay, Well she's done. The library's closed. But comedian Annie Donney recently posted on Facebook comment on this or like this status and I'll read you like a fucking drag queen. And so a lot of people commented and liked it, and they got red. Now what did she say about you? Bow? And she said about me? Um here here's her read.

I'm gonna try to I'm in a paraphrase that she goes, do your parents know your secret? No, not that you're gay, that you're honestly trying to break into the podcast day I read. I loved it. I loved it. Um she said about me? Uh, Matt Rodgers. If I ever want to find out what's happening in pop culture, I just have to go to your feed. If I ever want to find out everything I ever need to know about you, I need to talk to you for five minutes. You loud bitch. So read. She just cuts it down, cuts

it down. You gotta love. This is our second fan s admitted rule of culture from Sudie Green. Rule number so many. The sibling of a pop star may have one good album and that is it. So I I have questions about this. Your exhale there because burden a burden, because I was like, yeah, okay, sure, but Ashley Simpson, no, no, well she had one metamorphosis, No, out of biography, autobiography whatever,

that's Hillary Duff. Metamorphosis was Hillary Duff. They've all gone through changes, but no Solange would you count I would Cancelange as a sibling. If a pop star who has I would too, who has transcended that sort of label and released her own body of work. That is also, to be honest, there is Janet Jackson. Of course, yeah you can't. You know what this? Wow? Are we refusing to I don't refuse it, but it's just there are such exceptions, exceptions to this rule such as Janet Jackson.

There you go, yeah, you know what, Sudi, I'm sorry, we reject this. We reject this rule. Guys. The stakes are high, high high. If even if you submit a rule of culture for us to include UM in Canada, is there's a chance that we will reject it out right. And that's not that's not on us, that's on you. And you have to go about with that absolutely absolutely, because we don't work for you. We work for Forever Dog Podcast Network. Yes, now, Peter Um, tell us a

little bit more. You're making a face about Okay, you're going I saw you on the street. You were wearing this beautiful pink shirt and what you don't want to talk about this? I was looking at your shirt. Yes, we are talking about you man. So Peters is wearing this pink shirt that says two thousand, four sixty four Sturgis Rally, Live to Ride, Ride to Live SD, South Dakota, MCN. So it's got a beautiful, bright pink beautiful hot roddy motorcycle there. Um, bright pink looks fantastic on Peter, I

said to them. I think they even said, um, this is just giving off Joanne vibes because I was looking at your shirt. Let's all for the listeners at home. Bonus where a Lady Gaga brand t shirt. Yes it's a black shirt. Was just a simple embroidered she is simple now and she she's paired it down now. And I am wearing the shirt that because when I was whatever along I ninety which which it's a highway that goes through many states, but it's how you get from

Chicago to Montana. Okay. So I drive a lot as a kid, and we would get Sturgis. It was like we would always drive and Sturgis as this motorcycle rally, and so for most of the trip would be like surrounded by thousands of motorcycles on this road, this highway. And he was like, oh fuck, oh fuck, oh, fun, fun, because they just were like boom Past starring. So I drove there a few years ago when I got this shirt because I was like cute, Yeah, it was a gas station and then I saw your shirt and then

I have anxiety about this shirt because it's Joe. It's like Joe Anne, because it's pain the aesthetic of Joe Ane Sure, her look of Joanne it's like girly, like girly, like western wear, girly Americana. Yeah, sure, okay, and she looks good. But I just was like, this is like now, unfortunately she's branded. Might you know image of this? She's done her job. She took that from you, but I wouldn't have made that connection necessarily. But now you've imprinted.

Obviously It's in and and Peter a couple of weeks ago. Um, Peter is a great Instagram story. It's it's it's one of the superior ones out there. I will say that Peter had a sequence of a sequence of images one night of Lady Gaga photos, mostly during the art pop slash cheek to cheek era, where she was wearing a lot of calftans, a lot of um. She had just lost one of her costume designers art director's Nickel informer Chetti, who went on to you work for nuclear I think,

but she was, he was already working. We can't, we can't, we can't. But basically she was sort of she was sort of at sea with her aesthetic and she was wearing a lot of really funny, goofy things. I think it was sort of I think it's sort of perfect like it. It reflects the messiness of that time for her, But she was also she also sort of put on someone. She filled out a little bit. And Peter was just

viciously posting these photos. It was not vicious. Sorry, There was like five pictures of her in these looks where she, I guess is unflattering. Some of them were unflattering, one of them more than flattering. Yes, yes, um, But I laughed and I didn't I didn't necessarily think, oh, this is a malicious thing. But I said Peter, these these lady guys. I texted Peter as like these that she is a vessel too. I don't know like I put we all. I mean, I think we put some stuff

emotionally into her. Were like some pointed in that time of her, like eating a lot and like wearing dumb outfits. I'm going to say it because she was at sea without someone to say like where this it's really cool, right right um, and which people need to know that she had a great team working for right. And I don't know, I was just feeling it, so I was like, yeah, okay, mood, I'm not taking it a task for this necessarily. I just thought it was very funny and it affected me

because I just I do have this emotional investment. And so I texted Peter and I said, um, I forgot what I said, like, what is this? What is this? But then they said, um, oh this is just like this is reflecting my weight journey. It's like, well me too, because I feel like I'm going through this now where I'm like it's summer, I can't fit into my shorts from last year, all this stuff, and I think this

is a conversation worth having. We've talked about bodies before, yes, weight weight journeys through the lens of Gaga, just in general, Well, this is like and then after this time period of these like outfits she had her like my body is you know, like yeah can be fat, but I can't think that was kind of weird. It was weird and it was obviously come out of a crazy insecurity. Yeah. Well it's like, I mean, how would you react to

what was talking about your body? I mean talking about like oh yeah, it's such a weird time because it's like, I guess, not the beginning of the summer anymore. But it's just past that point where it was like, well, I really didn't get ready for the summer in terms of my body, and now it's like in terms of like the social events where then you are judged on

how you look like without any closure. Yes, yes I didn't even yeah, okay, but it's just it's just at that point now where it's like, okay, it's July, like this is it for this summer. I mean again I didn't do it. I didn't get it right for the summer again, and this is what it is. Sure. I saw you both in middriff bearing tease last night. Well

I saw Sluck in middriff bearing. That was that was I didn't know, like the persona sluck for everyone that's listening, it doesn't know is boning and eyes um Garbage Danced Garbage Dance Duo we lip sync to trashy songs and pieces of little sounds and it's disgusting. We have a full face of makeup and a little shitty shirts and down door and we and we we lip sync and perform. So Peter saw us last night. I was gonna say,

you both looked gorgeous. But this Gaga weight journey, I was feeling it, and I was like, Okay, this is the only thing that can just like sum up when I'm feeling right now. Okay, that's fair, Because I was like trying on outfits for a show and I was like yeah, and then these pictures of her just like chilling walking out of a plane and then like the weird cheek to cheek stuff where but she was wearing like Warren Afro. It's like, yeah, she was going crazy

there for a minute. It was really strange that like that like black like Afro. I kind of love that she's singing Bang bang and that baby shot me down and kind of my cousin Vinny sort of thing, or even even a Moonstruck thing, yeah, um or like share at the Oscars for Moonstruck, like gigantic, gigantic black leg um. No, Yeah, she's sing bang bang by baby shot me down live

with Tony Bennett. Um, it wasn't a doubt. But she's sang herself and I've gotten so much mileage out of just covering her rendition of that at the Do you really have so much? It's a show stop. I've ever seen Bowen singing that song? You I thought you've seen me do this? Okay, well next time. Here's what I think we have to do. I think Lasco Triesas has to do a live show at the Duplex at some point, and we have to have Bowen's performance of Bang Bang. I would love and shot me down. I would love

a musical um themed live show. Yeah, not not musical theater. I just mean, like, like songs are we could? We could? Uh? We do know a pianist. We're familiar with a pianist. We've got many singers friends who are singers. Oh my god, have you heard Peter sing? Yes? I have, but Torn by Natalie and bruliant. Oh my god. I was going to bring this up earlier Peter at their show, Um was it? Chump's Jubilee sings the most huntingly beautiful rendition of Torn by Natalie. It's a good song, it's a

great song. Oh my god, the lyrics are so good. It's a classic song. Goga's gotta cover it on Cheeked Cheek too, only the standards. It's cheek to cheek, but it's a two right, right, and Tony Bennett's dead. She's just wheeling him around there you go. I mean it kind of felt like that at some point. Definitely, she's like Tony. It was weird the Graham and she was like, I love Tony, And then I think Tony Bennett really does think Lady Gaga's first name is Lady. I think

so in all the songs, he's like Lady. I think this cheek to cheek body time was when she started doing like plastic surgery in her face. She certainly looks different because she got she got lip injections. I think there was some she like did Frank Sinatra performance some of that, and it was like her face was she's got a facelift different, and it was like a turning from me or being like, WHOA, your face is now new?

Yeahs different than it was, but there is still a sort of striesandesk quality about the profile that the noses just juts out and it's very bold and sharp, and I like that. I think I think she's still maintained

the essence. And think about Gaga is like there were so many years where you didn't really know where she looked, like you know what I mean, Like when she first came out, her bangs were so in her face and like she doesn't such have a costume, like you never such intense makeup, Like you never really got a sense of what she looks like. And so now I feel like people don't really talk about Gaga and how much plastic surgery she has or hasn't had, because it wasn't

the thing. It wasn't because she did like she would the contour differently some days and it was like, your face looks different. She would line her lips crazy some days, Like you really didn't have a sense of what her quote unquote makeup free face looked like until maybe like you and I, where she just wasn't wearing anything or even bad romance was the first time that it was unobstructed. It was like, oh, there's not a fucking like bang, yeah, like but not a banger, you know, like a fucking

iPhone chrome my iPhone on your face? Yeah? Um, But now I mean, and that's kind of that's kind of brilliant on her part. I will say that she like kept the image, so whatever, flexible, Okay, um, But I didn't mean to force this away conversation on all three of no no No, I just feel I was thinking to myself, like, because I've been thinking about it, and I was thinking to myself, imagine looking in the mirror and being like, fuck, yeah, some people do that, I know,

but imagine how what that would feel like? Yeah, and I don't know if yeah, I mean like would fix all the problems. That's how people get eating disorders when they fixes all the problems. Yes, yes, yes, and it doesn't. But by summer there are so many just like hot people walking around with no clothes on, and I'm like, darn it. I'm not like darnet. I'm like, thank you, thank you, I will thank you. I love to look at hot people. And then part of me is like

am I turned on by them? AREM I jealous of them? Or what? I think? It's it's obviously a vicious human combination of everything. We are complict the greatest Yeah, what is that? The great Is it? The greatest game? The most dangerous the most dangerous, which is about humans hunting each other, which I would love to bring back as a reality show with Jillian Michaels. You're hunting your skinny sealth. Yes, oh that's fine. Peter can ask you a question, Yes, how do you think Bowen and I would do on

the Amazing Race? Just hypothetical? Is there a doubt in your mind that you wouldn't win? Absolutely, but only because I'm garbage. I think would win because I don't have the stamina for it and I don't have the patience for it. And I think I'm a good problem solver. But after there is a critical when you're a certified genius, multiple languages, and I have great ground speed, like I can get places very fast, and you can like you can risk it all for like you know, you can

grab something. I would grab things the fastest we did escape the room, and I was always like over here, yeah, like you keep it, and was like, oh wait, now it's I think you would one hundred percent when the damn I can't. I would refuse to swallow you know, a mole rat. I would do what they do. I would do that. I don't know the factor I wanted to go on Fear Factor when you would do great on Fear Factors. Put me in that tarantula? Are you

listen that way? I think I just was like, this would be crazy because there are so many cameras on you that you're like, is this real? Yea, And then you're like, I guess it is, But like if I die, then this whole thing is going down. So they don't want me to die. So that's this is a weird environment where things are enabled, but you're being a it's by I want to get on that. Either you get on that or you host the fucking reboot, the reboot of fat You know who won Celebrity for a Factor once?

Who Rosa? Wow? Because the final challenges like to go into a room facing Amar Rosa. She just broke the mirror staring at her self Rosa. She won Celebrity Fair Factor. I guess who she beat Nicky mckibbon from American Idol season She was pink haired rocker. She was a Jennifer Hudson. She was a Jennifer Hudson by by rank, Yes, and but she was she was the upset third place and she because she beat out to my regret. Yeah, but not an American Idol queen sitting in front of us.

I really American Idol rubs me the wrong way. It should. It's an evil It's an evil show like making fun of people singing however they want to die. Don't like it? Yeah, we we we have friends who have been personally it's victimized and it's horrible. Um but no, I mean I think there needs to be TV is evil. TV is evil. Um just justin general. Took The Great British Baking Show. Oh yes, of course. Wait how far are you I've seen three seasons that the ones that are on I

haven't pursued further. Are you a fan? What are your thoughts on Chatna? Come on, this is such an important question. The Great British Baking Show finds a success on not tearing anybody down, or I'm not asking to tear it down. I think she's talented. She The only reason I ask is because first of all, I will say I found her to be she in the Middle Eastern one, She's she's Indian, Indian and she um. I found her to be a little bit not not compelling to watch, which

is not the point. But she was just a kind to the point. It's kind of the point. It's TV. But she does have an amazing cooking channel on YouTube. She bakes, obviously, but she makes amazing native dishes. She does. I can't taste it, so I couldn't say definitively, but that's the people have the most amazing butter chicken and chicken and chicken tacking assy. Oh god. Okay, So there's a lot of garbage with those cooking shows though, because you can't taste it. And also I heard tea that

none of the contestants can taste each other's food. And and you know all these cooking shows. Wait why specifically I'm talking about Top Chef, not Top Chef, I'm talking about Master Chef. I'm just I hear, what is this that you're like, I'm not supposed to say. You leave the room, people taste your things, and then you come back and then they give the critiques, and it's like, you're never allowed to taste each other's food. You would never know if a person deserves to win, and as

a viewer, you would never know. You have to take their word for it based on who's the best. Sounds like scientology. It sounds a lot like the room, somebody decides something for you to come back, can auestern it? You can't question it? Is that scientology? Sure, sure, it's a bad way to do something with groups of people and secrets. That's all you need. Yeah, yeah, that's all

you need to make scientology happen. But Top Chef, I mean they don't make I was always confused, like how one, how did they get the food plated to then have like the shot of you know where they like show it, and then like the three sixty view of the food, and then also they eat it, and then they have how many are you making? And like ten minutes left? Like what is this actually mean because you probably have to plate the like yes, close up shot one. And

that's how we feel about greepers bake off too. It's like this is impossible. I would collapse from exhaustion if I were also in the heat of summer under that tent with a bunch of ovens. No, no way, no, no thank you. These like ruddy British people who are like it's just very hot. They go home after each episode, like they go to their own literal homes and they travel back to this beautiful coughing on coughing on Cape

be living on. Sure it sounds lovely. I want to go to Yes, well that's where the Great British Baking Show season eight. You know you know how many seasons are there? Oh, there's there's been many and the ones that are not did they just come to America? Well there's the American one. American one. I don't want to watch that. I haven't seen with American bakers. Are they mean? I don't know. I probably it's probably cutthroat. No, they're not mean. Hot producers. Joe is shaking his head. It's

on PBS, right, yeah, he's nodding. Um, I'm sure, I'm sure it's it's PBS. Yes, and it's tame as it's genteel and tam um. Yes. Um. We've reached the point in our show where we will um, I don't Think so honey for the gods and guess what Now we can really freely talk about this. On August eleven, at eight pm a p m. At Little Field, we will be doing a second edition of I Don't Think So Honey, and you can get your tickets now online. Go to

our Facebook page. Um, look it up. I don't Think so Honey, last Coltursa's Live at Little Field and y see single Wannas. It's single Wannas. We have Peter Smith. It's like, can I just say to the people listening who might be like, should I go see this? Like the first one was a party, a party. It was fun. It was really you had a party going on. It was so fun and everyone was just like watching this party, but they were also in the party. It's like how

I felt watching Hello Dolly the other day. Oh my god, don't we talk about that Hello? How was it in the best thing I've ever seen? Is it? Are you serious? It was the best thing I've ever seen. God damn, it was the best thing I have ever I lost myself for the majority of it. What did you think of the train? Sure? Yeah, great? She sat on it, it went off. I'm like, yeah, okay, man, But just that doing bits, driving him into the goddamn ground like

a ten minute having fun. She was having a great time. We're just there for it. God damn, I wanted to see that. I'll see it with anybody. I love me some Donna. I love to see it with her to go again, that Bernette. They're okay. The rumors changed a week after week. First week here it's not Dolly Parton, but then before that it was someone else McIntire, they said, for a second, but then it was also going to be um like some someone else, like all crazy crazy,

crazy crazy. Well when well, Sudi went to go see it and Bernadette was there, and she posted about Bernadette being there, and someone who's really like they knew what they were talking about, was like, that's because she's taking over. That's the tea. But every week it's always someone who really knows what they're talking about. Yeah, everyone really knows what they're talking about, and they should know that only we know what we're talking about. And I do want

to say one thing. I'm so sorry I have to say this. Okay, there is Orlando T Okay, all right, by Virginia Wolf. There is Orlando. Virgin Orlando T. She killed herself shortly after writing it is never published until now. Um, so listen, as you know, I love to deliver the Orlando t truth, the Orlando gossip. This is what's happening in Orlando. Let's just say there's about to be a theme park war coming your way about one, okay, So let me first go over what's going to happen over

at Disney World. They have released a detailed, detailed model of Star Wars Land. Now, this is in depth. It shows where everything's going to be actually see what where everything's going to be located. You're getting a millennium force simulator attraction. Apparently it will be interactive to the point where how you do on the ride in quotes, like in terms of like how how you participate in the ride.

While you're in the rest of the land, characters will approach you, oh my god, and interact with you based on your performance, your heroic or failure of a performance in the ride, so they'll berate you. They were going to sleep No More you, Yes, this is the rumor. Now obviously some people are not going to want that, so it's going to be voluntary, I hear. But do you know they have those magic bands which apparently that system is getting updated too, so look for that you

opt in to sleep No More. Yes, So what was formally Disney MGM Studios is now Disney Hollywood Studios is probably gonna get renamed to No to like to like wait, is that one with the big They've taken that down

and they're thinking about. They're going to demolish or take down the Great Movie Ride, replaced it with rumored the Great Mickey Ride, which is gonna be a Spiderman, Transformers, Ask three D motion simulator dark Ride using Mickey, Donald, Duck, Minni, all those So they're trying to move into that direction, and they don't really have a ride that uses all those characters. So essentially they're turning they're turning Hollywood Studios into like an adventure park based on their big adventure

movie properties. So probably what's going to happen is the Tower of Terror is unfortunately going to get re themed to the Guardians of the Galaxy rock and roller coaster. Probably same thing, probably gonna be turned into something else, theme to Marvel because Marvel is also going to figure into this park. Fantasmic, the Nighttime Spectacular Show is going to get completely rethemed and updated. Toy Storyland is open there.

They've released a lot of stuff about what's going to be in Toy story And I just want to say, Matt is just this is off the top of his head. He there, and you don't under this is this is in the last This is in the last two or three days and he just come out. I'm sorry, he just match just has this memory. To me, this is sad because like the old like and well for just like drag queens in general. Like I I'm just still talking about this because we're all here just sort of

working at each other. Um like the aesthetic of us going to Disney World and being like oh even just like the old Hollywood writing thing, like no, now it's like snider Man. So these kids aren't going to have this like enchantment with forty to like just like weld Zone was weird, like it was like Twilight Zone. And that will be something that people have to reckon with, is the death of that kind of old aesthetic there because they're going to try to revamp into something that

also coming down as the Indiana Jones stunt show. So it's all coming down. I mean, wouldn't know about Twilights

them without Disney right a little bit. And that's kind of like how I felt about, you know, all the old movie properties that they used to kind of there was a lot of classic movie rights at Universal Studios, like you know your Jaws, You're they still have your t but like all that stuff is kind of gone now for like you know, Fast and Furious is getting a ride next year, and that's that's like a movie property,

but it's not a classic movie property. They did an okay job of kind of like it's a franchise, right, and so they know it to make money and they don't want to bring people in now. So that's happening over at Hollywood Studios, which is to be renamed and to be completely rethemed. Additionally, the Magic Kingdom is getting

Tron light Cycle is getting the Tron light Cycle roller coaster. Now, originally the tea was they were going to take out the Speedway, they were going to take out the Tomorrow Last Fear where you drove around in the little car. Now they're saying they're going to keep that. The Tron Lightcycle coaster is going to be behind it. Also rumored there's going to be an in park hotel behind the Haunted Mansion that's themed as a Haunted Mansion hotel. This is your wildest dream that this is and this is

like I love this is a break. That's a brand new rumor. Now moving over to Universal, okay, and this is where this is where the gag. This is the gag and now we now we find this is the gag. So hearing that Disney is getting the Tron light Cycle Ride, which is a half of half light, half dark roller coaster. Yes, and as you ride it like a bike and Bonus done it and he described it as it's it's space Mountain on on every drug. It's the most thrilling thing

I've ever been on. They made me take my glasses off. So once we were in the indoor portions, I didn't have Death Person dark all around you, but with like neon lights and it just looked like I was in this infinity field of light and it was Martin blurry light. It was gorgeous. So Universe Universal hears that Disney is bringing Tron to the United States, and you know this is gonna be a one of a kind of theme

park experience. But they are going to tear down the Dragon Challenge formerly Dueling Dragons, iconic roller coasters that are there. You know they were racing and inverted and dueled to a different roller coasters or Mrs Helisses into your right. They're taking it down. There's going to be a Harry Potter Forbidden Forest Dark Ride slash rollercoaster that uses the same exact ride vehicle and technology as Tron. So basically they're coming in and saying they're they're they're You're not

in a broomstick. You're on that thing that Hagrid rides. And someone's gonna be able to ride in the little thing next the little pod. Yes, and you're gonna exactly it's gonna be like a Hagrid ride I guess through the Forbidden Forest because because literally right where Dragon Challenges is where the Forbidden Forest would be in RelA to Hogwarts Castle. So yeah, so Disney is not going to be happy when they hear about that. Okay, I'm sure they're not happy. Now when when, of course, of course

I am breaking all the news. So now we're going to have another Harry Potter extreme theme park experience. I'm up there with Green Guts and the friends. I get to go to Harry Potter. You must know, are you a fan of the series. Yeah, I mean not everybody. We can't assume that everybody is. But I didn't read the Curse of Child. I think of coming the new stuff, like we did a whole episode of this podcast about

how the Cursal Child was garbage. You gotta go up here the Seven Books and then also to have it be like live in it. Yeah, it's the same aesthetic the movies, right, It's like the same set. When I walk very similar when I walked into diagon Alley, would you not? It was an emotional diagonally diagonally it was diagonally. The music was playing and it's just a sound a sound bath, sound bath, and it felt like I was in Digona early and I wanted to cry. Anyway, So

all of this is happening in also one. Probably you're getting Super Nintendo Land in Universal Studios Florida, which is taking over the kids section of the thing. Apparently you're getting a Donkey Kong mine cart coaster, You're getting a Mario Kart sort of dark ride slash coaster. And Zelda apparently like a Broadway level Zelda show. Oh my god, there's my ticket and moved to Orlando. You're just starting would just be screaming or anything. Just get me in this.

They should get Peter to play both Zelda end I think and and and she was queer. Give me all the checks. Here's the thing, guys, you gotta book your tickets for one because all this new ship is going to be there. Also, you know you have yours today, Bowen texted me, and he goes, I was thinking about doing an impulse by for like literally next week, and I was like, no, we have to wait, we have to wait to go again. I was just literally it was altogether under a thousand, but still I want to go.

I still haven't gone to Pandora. Bone has been to Pandora. I haven't been to Pandora a couple of months ago. But I'm just saying it was fine. All it took was fine. All it took for me to be inspired to text Matt to buy let's buy tickets again was I was literally just looking at a map of Florida on my laptop and I was like why and smacked out in the middle of Orlando, and I was like, I want to go back. What brought you to the

map of Florida? Its shaped like a dick. It's shaped like a dick, and I'm just drawn to Fallas But I saw Orlando on the map and I was like, there was magic happening there every day. I'm sorry I took us so far away, but I had to give the tea because there is so much you love Disney, It's not Disney, it's Orlando. It's this, it's everything. It's the part culture, it's part called, it's part even to Branson. Even what you've been to Branson? Have you been? You've been? Sorry?

Have you? No? No? No, what's in Branson, Missouri? It's basically Vegas for queers. No in a major way. No. Um, Like okay, the the flat image to d image that we have created of like in our mind what a Trump supporter is and looks like, and like where they live and all that whatever jazz, it's for that creation in our minds. It's catered to them. I mean, Dolly Parton has an experience there um which is like enchanted castle but like like pistol, you know, saloon e shop

shooters show on horses. Uh, there's like a huge Madame Tussaus with like all of the kind of like fucked up like the first tries kind of goes there. Yes. Actually I've picture with Hugh Hefner on his bed in Branson. I got to drag that out on his like it was this weird room of like this bed that you take a picture on with him and you put these ears on and it's like in the middle of Missouri, and I'm like, this is for like Christian, Like everything has a cross on it and everything kind of comes

back to a Bible story. And we went on like a show boat and every song had no matter what song, I had a slideshow of Jesus behind it and everyone just eating their potato, enjoying themselves. But Branson, in terms of park culture, Silver Dollar City, you must go, all, well, you must go. There are beautiful ladies in like turquoise belts and long skirts and like in Trio's singing songs of the Hills. Well, I have to dress up like a Trump voter to fit in. No, I think I

was wearing like they have a Titanic museum there. Wow, they have a Titanic museum where you get like a character and you go in and you might die at the end and everybody dies. Okay, Well, have you been to Worlds of Fun in Kansas City? No? Okay, it's another theme park. It's like it's pretty decent, but it is sort of like just a tier below six Flags in terms of quality. But it's pretty solid and safety and sake. I think it's a safe park. It's a

safe park theme parks. They're out there. Let's move on to I don't think so honey. Um, this is our segment in the show where we go on a one minute screed against anything in culture. Um, Matt, or do you have something something prepared? I have something that I could go on. Okay, all right, let's let's do it. So this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey.

Time starts now. I don't think so honey. Bronchitis I have you right now, and I don't know if you've been hearing on the podcast, but I've been turning away from the mic took off. Don't worry all, I'm not contagious. Okay. Bronchitis has been very difficult for me because when you have broncottis, you have to have cough medicine and cough medicine. I don't know if we ever had. It makes you very tired. I have been in a feug state for

the past three days. You guys, I don't think so honey. Bronchitis. It makes me off. I feel like I can't breathe. I went to the doctor the other day and I said to him, you know, this feels different. This feels different, and he said, let me test you. And I had a funny doctor and I think, so, honey, my funny doctor, he felt my chest said breathe in. He goes, M, that's good. He's like, you got a good heart too. Do you know what that means? I said what he said,

It means you're a good person. And I laughed because it like it wasn't a good joke, but you know what I mean, like he was making it fun for him. So I think, so, honey, M I don't think, so, honey, is diagnosis of bronchitis. I'm on a z pac right now. I will tell if if I this is even enough for medication. I don't think, so honey, the seapac, I feel still feel congested. One oh man, I'm so sorry. I don't know. And you know, it's not comfortable to have this in the summer, in the summer. It's not

cool for the summer, for the summer summer. I just feel like, what about this zpac? Like I hope that make me break out full body high. Okay, we just have Rachel when on the show sheet had a vomit fat when she had her back. I can't do it. I can't do it. You can't do it either. Oh no, I'm saying I will not do it because I've never had a back. But all these horror stories are making me. I blew up and I had tiny dots. I was like like it was medieval. What happened to God? My

face swoll like swollen up. Shut. I rolled myself to the er, and they like, pop me in blood, let me go. God, Oh my god, you know what they had to pop them in blood? Let him? Yeah, baby, they draw cord. I think we can put them out of business. It's time for bone Yanks. I don't think so, honey. And is he prepared? I'm prepared, Okay, bone Yanks, I don't think so Hony. Time starts now, I don't think

so Hony. Final Fantasy fourteen servers. I am not able to even log on to my character Rupp, a level fifty one summoner who has an amazing garu to Edgy all the time, and every time I log on, you always boot me and say that there's the world is full. There's a que of twenty other players going. But then I try again, and lo and behold, I magically appeared into the world all of a sudden, I skipped that line and my doning other people in line because I

don't want to do that. I don't I don't think, so, honey. I don't want to don't make me be that person. I don't want to be a villain in this world. I don't want people coming after me saying, hey, you cut me in the line for the que to the world and how are you playing in as the level one summer with a Garuda Edgy avatar and I'm I can't. So I don't think, so honey, Final fourteen servers for

not being reliable. And when I go into a dungeon or a raid with eight other players who are expecting me to support them as a DPS and deal damage to the bosses and to all the mobs, I don't think, so honey. That makes me look bad and I do not respect you assassinating my character. Final fourteen servers, So I don't think, so honey, Square Soft, square Enix mock station uh and my square Enix password that sometimes does not work. That's why, men, honey, you had a lot

of words per minute there. That was actually your most word w PM, great secretary, Thank you, sex secretary great. Stood. Um, I don't think so, honey. I am not prepared because I think the best thing that happened at your show, which I hope happens up the next one, if I may say, the fish bowl is the the troll ball will return. And in fact, how about you're saying, Peter, I think I think everyone should just pop in. I can give you a trollball. Please give me a truck. Okay, okay,

got it? Um hm alright, great, Peter Smith. Your topic is the hardworking middle class, and your time starts now. I don't think so hardworking middle class. Yeah, I don't want to see uh oh complaining about gas prices as you're trying to get to the gap at the mall. Yeah. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so. You're talking about going paleo. Yeah, I hear you over there. I hear you over there. College kid who's parents are a hardworking middle class Yeah, I don't think so. Who

are paying your ask to get through college? Yeah? Yeah. Oh, Now you're complaining about oh, your different diet, your one. Yeah, that's bullshit all right because your parents, yeah, they're doing their jobs that they're getting in the way of their own happiness because they're working too hard. I don't think so working too hard. I don't think so very hard working middle class, because you know what, you've given up on something and you're devoting your life to money. And

that's one minute. Wow burned him. Don't you ever ever come for Peter Smith on his also like the hard working middle class, the hard working middle class, not not not lazy middle time. You know, you have to come for the hard working middle class, the ones who deserve to be helped out of the whole. The elbow grease gotta come from that. You gotta come for them because because sometimes they don't always make the right decisions. Got

pigged down a couple of times. That was a part I think, so, honey, you know why because Peter measured, measured, but dug Into just chewed into every word. I loved. I loved that, you know I loved it too. And I loved this episode of the podcast. I cannot wait to see Peter at the live show, as well as forty nine other brave souls who are going to confront the trill bill. They're going to confront the audience, They're going to confront us, They're going to confront themselves. They're

gonna confront themselves. I like you call it a fool's errand it was the fool's errand for us to get fifty people together. I mean, I mean, well, we have we have lots and lots of people that that will in future installments also come on and booby, We're just like, these are the fifty. But it's a fool's errand to just organize this, but it's so fun, it's so worthwhile. Also then you realize, I mean I already started making a list of people that we haven't had on the

first or second one. And there's a long list. So don't worry everyone. The sun will touch your face. You will get to get up on that stage and and and go honest, the sunshines, and go honest, the sunshine is over the Goannas Canal. Thank you so much for having When you sent me the invitation, I just started laughing and no one had said anything yet, but I threw my head back and started cackling. And we don't know the show yet that just know that Peter will

turn out an incredible performance. Oh my god, they will be performing and one more time. August eleventh, go online and by tickets for I Don't Think So, Honey. Last Culture says Live at Little Field a PM. Okay, this has been Bowen Yang, and this has been oh my god, Oh my god, what you forgot? I don't know your name, Cina, and that's Peter Smith. Guys, Bye bye bye bye, guys bye. This has been a Forever Dog Production executive produced by

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