"Tragical" (w/ Jo Firestone)

like a goddamn chicken. You know why? Why? Because I feel cooped up? Because you feel cooped up. We'll fly open the coop and start half flying out of it. Because you know, chickens, they don't really fly as much as they flap their wings and simply uh float off

the ground for fleeting moments. They can fly, And isn't that kind of wonderful to think, you know, the chicken they can't possibly have a very you know, long memory span, so they remember lifting off the ground and realizing they can fly, and then surely they forget what's just happened. And there is, of course the flip side to that, which is the crushing fear which must be coming to your senses and plummeting to the ground. Yeah, I do want to say, and not to play devil's advocate, but

there are some chickens out there. My late grandmother used to run a farm and used to raise chickens, and she was very good at that at raising chickens. But one rooster pecked her in the ankle, and she bled and she had a horrible wound. And then you know what, that night she killed the chicken. She killed the rooster, coached it for dinner. We all Yet it isn't that beautiful. That's tragical. Tragical, Now that brings me to a story. The word tragical bringing me to a story. Tragical is

not a word, but it might be. I had to pretend it was a word. When I was in high school, I was a lowly buss boy at the restaurant called Nikki's on the Bay in Bayshore, Long Island, New York. And the boss's daughter, that was this the boss that you had sex with? On about I had sex with his son. Oh my god, he took my virginity. His name was Peter. No, okay, um, so, uh yeah, so this is actually the guy who took my virginity sister. That was the guy's the only restaurant's daughter. And she

was literally always pregnant. From the six years that I worked there as a bus were like five, she literally pregnant. She was like that woman who's always pregnant. And there had been some like really like a terrible news story and she comes in and we're all talking about it and she's like, are you talking about this? Oh my god,

it's tragical. It is so tragical. It's tragical. And she kept repeating it, almost like it was like comic the way she kept repeating it, because it was so not a word, and everyone knew it, like you would say it's a tragedy or it's tragic, not it's tragical. I mean, but she kept repainting, and oh boy, it was funny. I do want to just and I don't mean to correct you. Tragical is, in fact a word according to

the dictionary. Um, what is the definition? It's just like how ironical is a word, but you wouldn't read yes, guarantee. I mean, is it like how booty delicious is a word? Because it became like, no, it's not a thing you guys, Um, please culturally stist listeners chime in, because I mean, you can just fact check this. It's pretty discreet. Yeah. I mentioned it in your Radar review, mentioned it in your rate. Yeah,

I mentioned in your review. Guys. You know what's not tragical the fact that our guest is here with us tonight. It is not tragical. In fact, it's a triumph. It's a triumph. It's a triumphal Oh, let's go through the credits, baby, Yeah, let's do it. Okay, And god, you know what, the the credits we're talking to you, God, are an embarrassment of riches. Dear God, Um, here we go. She's got her Comedy Central half hour September nine. It's going to

be fantastic. Which guess what is like this week? It's this week and you might have seen clips of it on Comedy Central's socials. Um, it's so funny already. I can't wait to watch. And her album she just recorded, uh a union hall for two performances, she's got, She's got lots of options to cut her together the best. Not to say that both nights weren't the best. You know, it's really good to have. It was in the same night,

but it was different shows. Even if you're a famous end of like Kevin Hard or Amy Schumer, you need those options, honey. And she's of course a phenomenal writer on the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon, she's um performer. You've seen her star turns as miss Backup Ohio. I mean, god, run, don't want look those up? So funny, And of course she is. She was the erstwhile host of Doctor Game Show on WFMU. But now it's making a glorious return on Your Wolf. We're so excited. It's it's truly one

of the most fantasmical, tragic, non tragical, triumphal non tragical. Also, you've probably just seen the knowing our guests from being like True New York like Live show icon Queen of New York as Josh Sharp Ward call her and she refuses the title, and that's how you know. Guys, please welcome Joe. This is a joyous moment. I think that

was really a build up. Yeah, I just did. I wanted to mention you had a restaurant for I had a restaurant story thanks to work in a restaurant, and um, there was this guy there that was a cook and he was like so gross and he was dating the hostess but he would like grab us and touch us all the time because the hostess didn't know what was happening in the kitchen. And he was like just like this really bad guy. And he always like was he was always drunk, and he just was a gross guy.

And one time he had he was really skinny everywhere except for he had a belly. He had skinny arms, skinny legs, skinny at, skinny neck, big belly. You know what that is alcohol And so so then one of the one of the waiters was like, hey, man, no, why do you let a skinny body but just like a big fat belly and he goes he's you don't want to know his comeback. His comeback was at midnight,

this pumpkin turns into a big old dick. So the lot of thing there is my stomach turns into a cocky, fucking asshole asking another question also midnight, like it's some Cinde story. At midnight each night, my belly turns into a dick that's really zinged it in for a laugh. They're restaurants are gross places. Gross. Literally everything about them grows. The people that were there gross gross. The things that happened with the food behind the scenes gross, so gross.

I remember when I was cater I used to eat the eat the people's wedding nights, and I was acting like a rat, you know, just shoveling any kind of hot order, hot oor derves. But you know what, weddings, I'm going to say, pretty hit or miss with the food. Oh, they're always miss when you had a hit, I'm going to say, And she might be listening to this. No oh, no oh, no oh no, I was gonna say my sister wedding, some of the or dervs were I was a little under round. But then the entrees were the

main courses were delicious. I feel the opposite most of the time. Der that's where they really put kar into it, and the entree it's just a slop. Bo okay. You know what always crushes it for me the cocktail party when the girls and the guys are walking around with the trays and they like they're like little hot meat pa, and you're like absolute and they're like a little pick

in a blanket. And you're like when like always nailing it with like the things that are being carried around on trees, and then when you sit down, people always fail to keep it simple. And this is so funny because it's actually rule number thirty eight of culture, which is at weddings, keep it simple. Okay. The problem is though, that by the time you sit down at a wedding, you've eating like six the equivalent of six hat do. Yeah,

that's true. But here's the thing. Always it's like would you like the bula base or the fucking steak on the cart or whatever. It's never like what I'm saying is you gotta do your chicken or fish. That's it. That's why you know what. I will defend airplane food till the day I fucking die in one sense because it's they keep it simple. They don't and they keep it fresh, so they don't. What airline are you flying?

I want to bump up to that. Honestly, you guys, honest to goodness, and we're speaking to God right now. This is for you, God, Koreer and airlines they have make your own beeping box. They don't make it, where do you make it? They give you a bowl of rice. No, they don't. They give you the toppings and the sauces and they go to jong and you mix it yourself and it's like a fucking Chipotle burritable in the sky, baby, and it's delicious. Korean airlines go to Korea. Okay, so

let me walk this back. They give you the ingredients that you're to use. It's like make your own meal and you don't have to put everything in it. Oh, I guess that's true. That's true. And and I will always love a disgusting beef meal in an aluminium tray on an airplane. I don't know. I feel like I'm at war, honestly. Maybe it's just because I've literally never been served real food on an airplane. You know. Sometimes

they do make it hot, That's what I'm saying. I like the hot food, so hot to the point where it's not supposed to be eating yet, but you eat it because your senses are off because you're in the sky. Yeah yeah, yeah, you get that, Like your brain starts to melt and you're like eat this, yes, yeah. Like you're like people in the in the airports at like four in the morning, they'll be eating like a pizza, because it's just like, like, why are you eating that?

Why are you eating combos? Like I don't know, it's breakfast. I don't know. It doesn't make any since what's the longest fight you've been on? I don't know. I don't go in long I don't know if I've been on a lung. Have you been to Europe ever? Yeah, I guess I've been to Europe. Well, I would consider that must be it must be Europe must be, must be, Europe must be. Forgot to say that when we went through what was that, babe, uh right, France rights Frans.

I'm not saying that the cool way France or whatever. I used to when I was at cater I used to um serve these things that were very popular, um and they didn't realize I guess they didn't realize. But they named them chicken blue balls, and it was like a chicken cord of blue bite. But oh my god, chicken,

they know, they don't him that. Now I want to ask, because I feel like you're catering past life is so woven into your tapestry, into your history job don't and so tell us would you ever consider revisiting it and okay, all right, well that's a show. I'm just down, like, would you create a show a show around one woman show? No? No, no, don't no. I mean but Joe is so invented with her show premises. Oh no, we can't do it. Catering.

I remember one time I got a text. I was at a catering job, and I hated catering so much because they always put me on bathroom duty. What just because of my personality? And bathroom duty at a catering job cleaning him up? Because your personality? What does that? What does that mean? Week? They find the weak people, and I say, do the worst thing you Okay, but

listen they the thing is about Katie. I remember one time I got a text, you know, I got a Facebook message and it was it was hey, congratulations, And I thought that it wasn't that I tried out for it anything or applied for anything. But I thought that I had got my big break. And I thought that I could just run out of there, like rip off my uniform, run out the door. And I found out it was to someone else. Wasn't going to be anything?

Are you at liberty to say to who it was meant to go to or from who it was sent. I think it was from this comedian named Tyler, and I forget who it was. To have the art coves anymore without Facebook, I have it delete after two weeks my text what really to save room and also like to forget even like with Bowen with addresses unfortunately. Yeah, but that's probably one of the reasons why I have to sleep and save room is because me and her go back and forth and sack forth and back forth

and back, back and forth and fourth and back. That's rual number seventy. Yeah, you text, you better go back back and forth and fourth and back. But no, I was. I was almost to and fro for the kids. I almost did that today because I was trying to save it from my phone and I was like, should I just do that setting? Should I just make the leap? You won't miss the old duck, I know, because I never. I never go back for posterity, you know, but maybe will. But I want to get into this with Joe. Joe.

I think for some reason, your absence on Facebook is the most felt for me, and I'm constantly as more time, no stop, let me finish as more as time and time passes as time passes and passes as time as passes time and time passed a real song, and then it could be it could be I go Joe this and you Oh I thought it was. I believe in Miss Joe like she's a fortune teller. As time and time passes, I believe I missed Joe right right right. So the hook is un fast book on fast book.

Oh see, I'm Facebook with Facebook because something about hot music nowadays, it's also sible. I had a dream, I was sipping whiskey. Neat. That's all you got to say for a whole song. Put put something beat under that headed dream whiskey literal melody. I'm sorry, not sorry. You heard that one. Screaming screaming like an eagle. That's what she does, screaming eagle gets notes every two hours, that dummy.

It's amazing that she can still say I she will, she will her, she will shoot out her chords in the next year. You don't think it would have happened already. She had the song on her last album called for You, and she she got into it. Well, there's just one part. I mean, like the chorus its office, which is nuts.

But then but then up to the up to the bridge, she goes fucking insane and she goes um and so the chorus ends it nothing at all, and then in the second time she does the course, she ends in with it to It's so. There was a song, there's a song called stone Cold that she did live on the Saturday Night Live and it was like and she's wiving her tits off, like so so hot, and it was like everyone was like, oh oh, and Facebook afterwards was oh, josh our bafterwards, I was like, oh, Demmick

you she was screaming her little ass. She was scrolled saying her ass. But I do love Demi And guess is so good. Whenever I'm not sorry, it's really it's really good. And whenever I have to do something stressful, I listen to them. It's so it's feeling so bad and feelings so good. Do you know, like the beat comes in and out of sorry not sorry, No that's not true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, reveal when this happens. When it's like that, when the man comes in, which man,

it's like, um, baby, do you know what I'm talking about? Okay, wait, how's the beginning going. It's like it's like I look good at what is it? The beginning of the song, it's like baby, yeah, yeah, see now I'm out here baby. But she's right. The beat goes out, he goes during Wait a minute, because a minute. That's so true, Joe. I'm so sorry I doubted. We should never have done that. Should never we should never have done never ended. Um, Joe, let's at We're gonna ask you what we ask all

of our guests. Yeah, because now I'm really interested. I've always been before in Joe's cultural upbringing. In Joe, the question we will ask you is, what was the culture that made you say? Cultures? For me, I want to step in a cultural direction, truly formative, formative. So I wasn't really allowed to watch many movies growing up, Like we were allowed to rent a movie like once every two weeks. Yes, this is because why we didn't have cable.

I don't my dad just didn't think it was worth it, Okay, and um, and so we my brother would always choose Death Becomes Her And so I watched that over and over again. And then but I got to go over to my friend at Dina's house, and we watched over there. We watched uh, We alternated between Rackul Horror Picture Show and Blue Lagoon, which is where we saw our first penis. Oh my god, there's a full penis in it. Blue Lagoon?

Is that with Brookshields? Yes, and Mr Feenie and tell you something by the time this episode releases tomorrow, So it's not something you guys can come to now because it will already happened, have happened when you guys hear this. But I'm like the sidekick from Night Late with Brookshields, and I've never met Brookshelves. I don't know what's about to happen, but you're going to have to riff off of her. How did her How did she choose you? I don't think she did. I think I was suggested

by someone that she must have. No, I think she might have chosen She must have chosen you, because she must have Here's what happened a bit okay, because celebrities, you know, they like to pick. But I think what happened is that they the producers at Night Late, were like, you could choose this person, this person, and this person. Here are their videos, and she was like, I'm in love with Matt Rodge because you know she had to

feel passionately for you to be yes. All right, Well, the first question I'll ask her tomorrow is, Hi, I thought it was going to be. Have you seen my work? I think you're going to become best friends. You're gonna get free latinos. Honestly, I will make it my golden befriend her. I think I'll try to get her on the bod. You're going to get get her on the pody. Can you imagine if we interviewed Brookshields of Blue Lagoon, God, Spin City, Spin City, what was the show that was like,

it was the same, Um, it's not. It wasn't news radio. It was David Spade was a boss. Don't shoot me, dot shoot me. No, she wasn't on that, Oh God, were suddenly suddenly Susan Okay, I mean Blue Lagoon suddenly Susan She sus lipstick Jungle. Of course. Wait, I feel bad because you literally it feels like faith that you said that, because that's literally happening. So I hadn't mentioned. But anyway, I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Please do um, but continue, So you would go over and you'd watch Rocky Horror and Blue Lagoon and rotationally, and you would be also frequently watching death because and so I watched these movies over and over and over, And would you like get something out of them every time? Or was it just like something that just it became someone green in your memory? That's me out of it every time every time? Amazing? What are those things you

got out of it? Like different understandings of what the penis was, and different understandings of sexuality, because it was just like because I remember it was like at first we were really afraid of regular Picture Show and then we were like we understand right, we're you know, so are you a kind of person? Are you the kind of rocky horror person who will go to a screening? Have? I only been one screening? But I liked it a lot. I like those screenings where people engage. Yeah, you know,

did you dress up? No? I'm not a big fan of costumes. I understand why other people like them, right, you know what I miss? I missed the room screenings. I feel like you don't. Yeah, they don't do it. They were doing it for a while, like three years ago. Yeah, they were happening a lot. They even did. We're in college. We were in college and they did them, but they I would go freshman year. It was very funny, and the first time is always so funny, and then the

second time you're like, I know what's happening. In the third time you're like, I gotta go. You can. But have you guys heard about the new movie The Disaster Artist that James Franco directed, so he plays Tommy Was. Oh yeah, oh this is about to come out, and it's apparently it's hilarious. So it's a biopic essentially of Tommy Was and his creating of the room. Maybe the biopic is the wrong word. It's it's a depiction of the creation of the room. And James Franco plays Tommy Was.

Dave Franco plays Greg sss like the best friend who's in the movie. And I think Alison Bree is also in it. Um it was the hilarious actress who plays the blonde girl in the movie. She also was in Brookshields Brookshields. No, I feel bad. I'm gonna find out who who she is later and I'll say, but she's a grainer um and like lots of cameos too, so um gotta. But apparently it just premiered at, like I guess,

the Toronto International Film Festival. It was like a huge hit, like everyone thought it was the most hilarious thing ever. I can't wait to see it. UM, But I just just just to get back to Joe's culture. UM. Now has this informed how? How would you say this has informed you now? As an adult? UM? And an adult? An adult? An adult, I think that I like, UM, I used to you know, another culture I used to really enjoy. I used to want to, UM. I used

to want to own a candy shop. That's what I wanted to do when I grew up, either that or celebrity psychiatrist. And UM I was I realized I just wanted to do something that was like like frivolous and like didn't canny does kind of hurt people, But I just wanted to do something that was like made people feel good in the room. And I guess that's kind of what I try to do now, even though sometimes I get a little angry or now, I think stand up comedy has brought out an edge in me that

makes me hateful and scared of people. Know it rounds you out, I would say it rounds out the other facets of your personality. Maybe because because you know, you balance out the joy making in a small room with the hatefulness. I guess so I do find it made me become a bad person. I've never seen you ever once be hateful or angry. I agree. I have seen you get flustered. I never even seen you get flustered.

I'm always flustered. I'm flustered right now. But I was I like, I was at a show in l A. And I was like, I was saying a joke and it was like a sex joke and nobody was laughing. Uh. And I was like, I said the words, what are y'all virgins? And I thought, what's happened to me? You believed that you should say that in the moment, and the moment I was like, I know what'll get them? And it's like, what the hell's what? What if they

are virgins? You know, like something, Yeah, but what if it's a religious group coming in wanting to see comedy for the first time? They say in the front row, and I said, what are y'all virgins? And they were like, yeah, we are. We're waiting for the love of our life. It just made me turn into a bad You think comedies made you guys bad? Yes, Um, I think it's exposed me to horrors. I've if anything comedy is just flipped flipped my own underbelly. Yeah, so I'm seeing parts

of myself I don't like. Yeah, maybe it's not that it's like turning you bad, but it exposes It's like when you lift up that like the drain, you know, cover, and you're like, oh my god, that's where the animals live. Right well, I guess to be totally serious about it, it's like what's funny is like the truth, and the truth is not always like a cool thing to find out about yourself or other people and stuff like that.

And I would imagine like working in late night right now is frustrating because you have to react to a lot of truth and truth is bad. Truth. The truth right now is bad. I know there's only one news story every day that's like whale escapes from zoo, and it's like the rest of it is horrified. And even the whale escaping from the zoo could have die or consequences. I mean, what's the whale state of mind? Who's around? Where did it escape to? Like did it escape to

some place where there's so many questions. Right, there's no, there's not there. I mean, maybe there was never fun news. Maybe there was never ever fun news. That's that actually is comforting. No. I remember as a kid, as a kid, when I would watch the news, they'd be like, um, nothing like no crime, blah blah blah blah blah. And then they'd be like, oh, just so you know, there's razors in your soup and in your noodles and in

your cookies. And it's like, oh, just like, even if there isn't something to be afraid of, the news will be like, there's something to be afraid, but right now there is even even razors in your soup. Is like, you know, I'd rather take that for sure. Can I'd rather there be a guarantee that if you order a soup as a razor then have trump. Yeah, I'd rather have for sure? Can I say something? And this is yeah,

this is this is a Joe memory. And I feel like, you know, years from now, we'll remember the people we were with the day of the election, the day after the election, and I would extend that to the week of the election and the week of the election, I was supposed to. I went on Joe's uh now may she rest her show dedications on w M at w

fm U. It was it was very fun. I was very excited to do it, and then this and then on November eight, November nine, Trump got elected, but I was still supposed to go in the following week, UM and Joe UM was just like, Hey, it's just gonna be really it's gonna be really rough, but come in anyway, I think I'm gonna make this show all Selene Dion songs.

And I was like, you know what this is. It was one of the first uplifting It was one of the first moments in the week or in the aftermath, and I was like, Okay, there are still these little touchstones like Selene, like Joe, like her like dedications. And so we went on. We did We did all Selene songs. People called in, UM, a couple of people I think justin Linville called in and was like genuinely scared about

what the election meant. And we and Joe and I just had to be like had to like tow the line between being like fun and silly and talking about silly things but also like, oh, but the world is really bad. And that was just like freshly like the world is bad and like I feel like now like whenever someone says that, it's like, yeah, of course it is. But back then mid mid November was like a cool novel thing to say. But anyway, Joe was Joe was

the beacon and was the beacon. That's not how I would have handled that, Okay, I would have said to that first, calling in scared, I would have said, well, that's not what this show. We're picking our favorites ley Indian songs. So I'm sorry that you're scared. Um eventually it's a member of the company community, you see again. Yeah, it's just like, I'm sorry that you're afraid. I mean, this is not what the show is. And we do have a we're gonna you know, we don't have so

much time, so I don't know. But here's a question, and I'm sorry. Did you guys hear that Justin wants flew to He flew to the Dallas for airport because he was craving what a burger which is a which is a burger chain in the South. You gotta be kidding. But he gets free flights because his mother works for one of the airlines and so he gets free flights and he was really craving water burger and Joe Joe

told me the story and it was shocking. The same day after the meal, my dad once we were we were we were in and um, we were in a all you can eat sea food restaurant outside of Orlando. You could have oh you can eat lobster tails, and we're having such a good time that my dad said, you know what, it's almost worth it to fly here for this and fly back. It's almost worth it. And

he was fully convinced. We never did it, but I was like, I wanted to really push him on and I was like, yeah, if you say, let's do it, is to come down next Thursday night. Is your dad as good energy as you? He's He's good energy. He's bridg is good energy. Um, he is. I would say the better energy is my mother. They're both good energy,

but my dad's good energy. I would say my dad can his his like temper and frustrations can act up in a way that my mother's do not sure my mother has like I think out of the three six five days a year, I think she's got has like four or five bad days she she's a very kind of resiliant, positive person. And my dad, I see get like frustrated and his temper gets the better of him more than my mother. So yeah, but but he is eight out of ten days or you know, nine out

at ten days in a good mood, I think. But like there's moments during the day where it's like, well, do you mean this is happening? I'm not ridiculous. Um. He came up to me one time and said, I'm not gonna do his voice. He goes phone in, Um, your Instagram is really is really something else. You're out

of your goddamn mind. And I was like one time he saw my he saw our friend Dave Mazzoni, and we had just done a promotional picture for Papa Roulette, and on the back of it you saw Dave's butt, and my dad to Dave's face, goes, that's a big as you got a big ass. You don't think about

it when you see it and not out. But then yeah, I got a big and I saw Dave's eyes just like I saw him, like just like us out speaking of asses, speaking of asses, And this is something I literally thought of today, Joe, and I didn't even put this just connect the dots that I was seeing you tonight. But I put on I put on some underwear. I felt my ass and I was like, I I think I'm like Joe Firestone and that I don't have an

ass either. Joe has a joke in her in her half hour about her not having a butt, which which I don't think is necessarily true. I don't think it's like a flat I don't think it's a straight drop. And then my legs indent, so like that's how you know,

but the the indent means that there's something there. No, it's like the residue from my back, like the back extends and maybe it's some kind of tail memory and then it goes it's like a cliff that goes into the like I don't I don't think so, like I have two dimensions to my body and it's back and leg and there's but I'm sorry that you don't have a but it's really it's butts are in right now? How do you deal with it? I don't know. I was thinking about getting those pants that um not your

mama's jeans. You know, these aren't your mama's jeans. These aren't your flat asked mama's jeans. Let me tell you your mom with that flat ass and her stupid jeans, and are adding Yeah. I think it's like the way it's stitched. It's really tight. You loose as dumb stuff. I feel like it must press the kings apart. So you do silent farts. We all know the trick that's

never worked. You're pulling apart and it's just like you're if you're trying to be discreet and fart silently, why would you take your both of your hands and pull apart your button? I do. I do it literally day where. That's why no one ever hears me. But where are you? Are you in public? Yeah, in front, in front of crowds of thousands. You don't take your hands and fly your butt. I do. I I don't. When I'm at work, I go hold on everyone. No, so you sing, but

you won't fart. Very clear you're parting no matter what. Um No, I don't think it's clear. I think I get away with it each time. But yea, but Matt's also working with different equipment. Matt has a very I would say, um globular ass. I think I've seen it on Instagram. Yes, you have shown it on Instagram. I have taken almost nude pictures. I've taken some almost new pictures, not because of like a vain thing, because I think

it's funny. It's very funny. You're you really do do that funny because it's funny, because it's also like, yeah, he's like it's like, this is a good picture, you know what I mean. But it's also like, you know, he knows he knew me a good picture for us. I think that Yeah, for us, globular does not sound like a good thing. But I'll take it like globe like a little, like a little it's honestly, it's not not there. I will say this is a new this is this is new lexicon for the for the listeners

out there. Matt famously refers to his ass as his world. My whole is my world. Like if you're ever going to show someone, if you if anyone ever is going to go down there and you know, see it or do things to it, I say, you show them your world. You can invite them into your world. Yeah, Or He'll say, I'm about to show you my world, and then and then and then I'll simply raise my legs high like lady Liberty holds a torch and spread them. You got holding your leg like so up in the right hand

like that. Yes, he's doing it. Now, he's doing it. Now. It does look like Lady Liberty. It's beautiful. But if it's slowly turning, um here for your huddled it's like a shock. That would be the next word. That's what it says. Really, no one's actually looked at her little book, her little book. That's what it says. On her little book, her little black book, her little black book. Who do you think is in the statue of Liberties? A little black book? Carry and all the guys she slept with? Who?

Who hoo hoo? You know, tell Mr Jeffson, I think she the Stonehenges. I think she sucked the Colossus of Routes. Oh no, mo wash moore boys, she sucked the Rio de Janeiro. Jesus, I just I just want to I want to listen to Joe just talking in this masculine accent. The shiny andy wohole, the shiny she fucked the Eastern Island, guys. The whole horses she fucked up were horses on Eastern Park where there you know those um by the Brooklyn Museum. Yeah, and it's like that big arch. Yes, oh yes, the

granity process. Of course. I'm so sorry. You know, she sucked everyone on Rushmore but Teddy Roosevelt because she was like, why are you up there? Because the sculptor wanted to show off that they could do glasses. Wow, okay, special skills. Um Joe. I think I think you were really amazing, amazing, and you're showing America the breath of of the characters that we see in real life, such as Betsy. Back up Ohio us his back up ohio tell us what

goes into everyday life? What goes into making these people come to life? Talk about that, Well, you get like one hour before you know it's happening, and then that hour is spent in makeup. So but the time you get out there, it's really just exploring. Oh well, exploring and heightening, but it's successful exploration, and it's sometimes it's it's like a very it feels like um, like you wrote,

like it feels like someone did a TV. It's like what you would have imagine, and like working in a late night shows, you're just like oh and then you just get in bakeup and then you run on stage and then you're like, oh, that's what it is? Actually, what is it really is? Makes it not? I mean it's yeah, I don't know. So you are enjoying working there. Yeah, it's a hard job, but I you know, I don't really sleep very much, no Joe. But apart from that,

it's okay. They have Helen Hardy soup in the basement. I love that. Do you have you had the Totalini Florentine? No, god, I need to try that. Is that a staple day? It's not okay. I get email blasts from them whenever they have my favorite flavors. Oh my god. And I got an email from them today and they were flirting with me because they said it was total Leaning but it had mushrooms in it, and I knew they were

being bad and that did that? Did that make you say I really want to go or you didn't want to? Deal breaker? No? I I don't mind much room because I put it on my list. But that's true. You did put it on the lest you did ask for it. I did. I do feel like I said to myself, the large isn't large enough, and I thought that's so fucking stupid that I get mad about a soup. No, I get mad about soup all the time that I'm going to that soup place so much. But it's good.

And also it's like, isn't it healthier? No? No, um, but the cream of tomato. My favorite is the cream of tomato with ours out? And what do you get? Do you get those seven s seven seven seven time passes back and forth? Sour? It's the seven grain sour do crackers? I got it sour grubs. Diday, I had four halfs of cupcakes so too, because I was like, I don't want to go to the super place. Do you know what I always get when I go to Helen Hardy The seafood chowder, the lobster biss that's expensive.

It is expensive. It's sometimes upwards of eleven. I had the big one too, because I have a big stomach turned into a dick at night, midnight, precisely, it's all that lobster bisk. Hey, why you got the biggest stuppocket A little body with a globular ass, Well, if you must know, my big gass tummy turns into a cock at night, and then I lift on my legs to the sky like Lady liberty her goddamn self and show

my world. Can you imagine why own belly? Dick? You're in somebody, you're in somebody else and you're like this used to be and they go and in just moments it's going to turn back quick quick, let me come. It's not it's and and you're your old boss or your whatever. That guy that that's Jeff. He's saying it as if the belly is the is like the carriages, like, and the dick is the pumpkins. You know what I'm saying,

Like the belly is like the drafts. But did you guys what I'm trying to say, It's like, the belly is not the curse. The belly is the He was clearly horrified and put on the spot and honestly objectified physically, like he might have been a nightmare to work with, but he was being cruelly, cruelly addressed. He was put in a bad situation. I do remember that was like the only Jeb the only time I've been ever like sexually harassed. But it was this guy kept saying, I

looked like, who's the woman that's since world? Um, which woman she's really politically active. She was like five years ago. She doesn't have any hair. Oh, she was in the league of our own sister. You're talking about um? Oh god, No, I don't think it. Wait Lori petty. Yes, and they'd be like, girl, you look like Lori petty, girl, young, petty, scrappy one from their own little sister. Yeah, a little she was annoying. Yeah, what's her name? In the movie Ki? Ki? Yeah?

Do you know that that baseball stadium is still intact? What? It's perfectly intact because the mayor of that town was like, you got to make it built to last. It didn't used to be my playground still now, but now the Rockford Peaches are a cheerleading team for the boys baseball. No, that's horrible. I honestly think, oh my god. Option this make a fucking reboot where the cheerleaders want to play

the plot of play. Yeah. I don't know, gus. Option this, Option this is that that should be a new that should be a new segment on the show. Option that's good. That's what got her on the tonight. The segments. It's a crazy bit called option this with Jimmy Fahlon where Jimmy, he goes option this and and he chooses a choice. Joe, I just got get you know what, that joke and just toss off these premises and their gold. And but it's like it's like she doesn't mean, well, last we

got one fucking bit. I don't think we got one fucking bit. Don't they're going to put it on our Goddamn. I just I think it would be really hard. I really don't think either of you should die first. I think you should. We have to die together. We have to die, and you know what, I think it's time. I think I don't think so Honey. I think this, this might be the last one. This is going to be. I think after this we're gonna die. We're gonna die. And come up with the backup. Please just come up

with the backup. What would you do? I want to I want to pose a question to the to the listeners. What would the listeners do? Would would you do anything to keep I don't think so honey alive anything? What would you do for us? What's in it for us? Please? Don't think that they would continue the lost cultures this brand with oh you're trying if we diet I'm talking about h p J producer Jo think he would cast two people that looked and sounded like us to keep going,

Why do they need to look like you? Because he wants to fool them them. He thinks that they're all dumb, the listeners, right right right. You can You can't fool someone with your voice, but you can fool someone with their looks. Or no, that's the other way around. Yeah, it's the other way around. But you know what, it's because listener, Because the listeners are all guys coming, don't. I'm just gonna say this to you on the side, Our listeners are dumb. Listen, you don't switch switch us

out at all? So dumb? You know, one of them? Half of them? Half of them what half of them education? Half of your listeners have a fifth grade education? Like they fucking so stupid. They think all this matters. They got grade and patient and a sixth grade and the seventh grade and a college okay and dare you? Oh option this a seventh straight to college? It's perfect. Okay, So the Emmy's happened, yes, oh yes, so we're lovely. The time of recording this, we're recording this right after

the Emmi has happened. Is that crazy that you, like, all of your friends get dressed up? It's amazing on your Instagram you're like, oh my god, even if you don't, you're not friends and exactly you're like, my friends were at the Emmy's. Can I tell you my favorite bite? That's happening right now though, any it's ripping everyone apart from what they wore. Annie Domy is doing fashion police on her Instagram for all of the all of the people who went to the Emmy's, and she is really

taking their prisoners, telling everyone they look bad. Villain of the Last Countries this podcast said, I don't think so, honey, Bowen and Matt, I don't think so, honey. Two point oh this is this is This is one of the Annie's burns from her fashion police for the Emmy. She goes meet your do harri Oh yeah, a little choker, a little goth girl. Will you look like a fucking goth girl? But she's like almost not a bird at all. But you know what an Annie's voice, anything anything is

I think is it time from my virginity story? Yeah? Wait, oh yes, that wasn't part of the plan, but I will tell it. No, Well, I lost my virginity to the owner of a clam bar that I worked at in high school. He texted me a lot over the school year proceeding. When I was a freshman in college, I was slowly considering coming out and he took my V card over the summer, not on a boat. That was later. Um, he took my V card into bed

and UM, I'll tell you what. I'd be working at the cash register downstairs, getting making coffee for a guests, and he would call it down and say, hey, can you send Matt Rodgers up with a coffee for me? And every weekress in the restaurant wouldn't know what that means. And I would go right up there in nineteen year old me and he was nine. Looking back, I would not have done that. But the boat story is I told him I didn't want to hook up with him anymore.

He said, okay, we'll just be friends. He's like, let's go out on the boat this weekend. We went out into the Lisles Sound and he anchored the boat and he said, we're going to hook up. And I was like, I don't want to do that. So that's actually a shitty story. Yeah, that's really messed up. It is messed up.

And I did it, like essentially, I like gave consent to it, but like but then but like I didn't realize until years later that how funked up that was, especially to a nineteen year old, where is still there? Still there? All right, well it's no, I mean, that's that's bad. But the thing is and I didn't even realize it was bad until years later. That's like the physical like you're staying put because I was going to do literally jump into the lis on sound. Oh it

was so shitty. And I actually didn't tell anyone about that until last year. What I believe like it was like it was like very much not a moment for me, like the social media movement of everyone sharing their kind of stories and everything like that. But I told Henry, I was like, you know, just you know, like I feel like I didn't. I kind of didn't realize like that this happened, but this totally happened. I mean, and I brought up I asked you to bring it. I

brought the boat. No, honestly, I was sharing in his lighthearted story and then I was like, and I sometimes say the boat thing and I don't really get into what happened on the boat, but that did happen. You know what, we can and it happens. I think so many people absolutely just like those situations of like you did it, but you didn't give consent, even though you technically like I didn't do a drag in your feet, you know what I mean? The thing is is that

you would never do that to someone else. No, And I think it's like I just wonder what those people think, Like, what what is that guy think? Is he just like him? All he thought it was like flirty and fun, but I had made it clear that I didn't want to do that anymore. You don't that's not a friend. Yeah, it was really even if I took you out to seat and put an anchor down and we're not going

to have sex. Even if I was just like let's just sit here for you're like I want to go back, yeah, and I was like, no, let's just sit here for a while, you'd be like, this fucking crazy bitch needs to get out of my life. It was crazy. It was crazy, and then all of a sudden the relationship was like back on because I was like, well, I mean, like I guess it's gonna happen regardless, but this is

these are things that you don't realize. That's like a nineteen year old who not for nothing but lives in Long Island where the patriarchy is super solid. And I mean that not only just as men have control over women, but like older men have control over younger men. And you know, he was my boss. So there was so much going into it that was like weird. Um, but yeah, that's a funked up story. But I didn't know I was going to just share. But look I was saying.

I was saying, did you get rid of him when he went to college? Yeah? Yes, And then he was very upset about that because he was like, so what you have no time for anymore? Like because I I decided that when I went back to school, I would come out of the closet and like transferred to tish n y u and like try to, um, you know, pursue comedy finally, and I was gonna like really try to become who I was. And he like that was

like such a bad thing. He was like, so what, You're not going to come back and work here over the summer anymore, Like we're not going to be friends and like, you know, I'm just gonna sit here and work at this place forever and etcetera, etcetera. And it was kind of like yeah, and now looking back on it,

he's like very much a Trump supporter. And this I think is a common thread with a lot of those people is they're angry about them their lives and how they've turned out, and they feel very trapped situationally, and they're looking for someone to blame and it's or that they have politics in general, and they think it change up there is going to like change their lives, and they're just they're obsessed with being the victim or they're

you know, they've sexually assaulted people and they identify it with that as you know whatever. I feel like that kind of like it's also like that's you're eighteen years old, he's twenty nine years he is. You have no, you have no. You don't have to dictate his life. No, he can do whatever he wants. And to be like, no, you're not, You're just gonna leave me, that's kind of manipulus. It was so weird and manipulative. And I remember at one point, like when I knew it had to end.

Was there was like the real owner of the restaurant, who was his father, and he had like a much younger girlfriend who was like sixteen or seventeen young years younger than him, and she was like the manager of the restaurant, and she was always very unhappy, and you know, it just wasn't a good it was very negative atmosphere. And she looked at me one day and she was like, I just know that you and so and so we're gonna fall in love and you're just gonna you guys

are gonna be just like me and my boyfriend. And I was and I was like, oh my god, I have to get the funk out of here. I was like I cannot do this. I was like, this is horrifying. And also, you know what else sucks is you can't tell anyone about it when it happens because you're closeted. And I think he knew and and it was my job and everyone that and honestly, if I had said something to my coworkers, they would have just been like, oh my god, that's so crazy. Then no one knew that.

It was like no one was had to like especially out there, and at that time, like there was no like way to express like I think I was like sexually assaulted, taking advantage of Like it was not like that. It was like it sounds hot or I guess you guys are back on men. And also you know when that grabb him by the pussy stuff came out, that group of people were all like, come on, this is just how men talk. This is ridiculous. This is how

men talk. Crooked Hillary blah blah blah. And I was like, you know what, maybe you guys need some better men in your lives. And that's nationwide. People didn't give a funk about that because that's the kind of men that are out there. Realized how many times I've heard that expression grabbed them by the pussy, and just it's like hasn't been a visual for a while, it just became a visual just hands. I mean, it's a horrible visual

and it's just but isn't Yeah, isn't that awful? Like a combination of words that actually makes no sense, Like, no, it doesn't make sense, but I think it does. I think he would do it. I think he would do it. But it's like, but like, I mean, that's the thing where you really have to put the lady liberties legs. But he's he's saying that as if like women are aroused by that. You know, I think that that does

that is the kind of thing that arouses gas. I think that that if you are surprised and that way, it doesn't release the bowels. You. Yes, you, I'm sure that spread spread the cheek grounded by the world. Donald Trump, do you think do you think that you would be more likely if you saw Donald Trump to like, um, to like do something, would you part in him? Okay, I'm going to a catatonic state. So here's what happened. Um,

So he walked past me. I went to I went to the taping of his Center episode two years ago and uh, okay, well, first I should start off. So Sudie invited me to Sudi invited me and Becky Shoquin and Sami says her guests, and we all go and then we got a great group. And then we all go out afterwards to where the after party is and we're some of the first people there. And then that show that episode, Ivanka had a walk on during one

of the sketches and no one applauded for her. She had her one line, she was like a prompter mistake. Prompter mistake, Like, I don't think the applause thing went up, Yeah, exactly, so people don't applaud for her, and I think and Sudie was like, oh, that sucks, like I kind of feel bad about that, and we were like, yeah, I guess so um and and so uh And this was before you could really just like pin that on, pin all the ship on Ivanka at the time, she had our sympathy in a way, yes, um and so uh.

So then the four of us go to this after party restaurant and we're just sitting there, eating, drinking, and then, uh, who should walk in, buddy, Ivanka? And Ivanka walks in and she had just announced her pregnancy like two weeks

before I had seen. So she walks in and then we were pretty we were all pretty hammered at this point, so we go, yes, Ivanca, like we were her fucking best idiot girlfriend idiots, and then we're just like waving her down and then she turned sees us, clocks us, and then like smiles and waves at us as if she recognized us or something over and she walked over and it's like, oh, like you're so used to this, You're so used to doing performatively doing this. So she

walks over to us. She goes, Hi, how are you great to see you? And we were like hi. We were like, we were like, we were like a great job tonight. You were so fun in the episode. And she goes and she literally said, well, thanks so much. I mean snl, what did dream come true? Am I right? And we were like yeah, And then I went just hammered at this point. I go and then I rubbed my belly. I go and congratulations. No fucking like gabbed with her and she was like, thank you so much.

We're so like, she goes, Jared and I are so you didn't know he was a little boy. No, we didn't. You know, you hadn't You hadn't really seen Jared at that point. And so she said that and then she like exchanged a couple more pleasant trees and then she's like and then she's like, well, um, well I've got to go back to my section. But it was great

talking to you guys. Have a great night, okay, And we were like by and then genuinely I was like, wow, um, I know her dad's a piece of ship, but I I'm really genuinely starstruck, and I kind of was she gorgeous in person? She was fine in person. Um, just this towering bird. And then so then fucking Bill O'Riley shows up too, and that was insane. But then then I'm drunk, and then um, I'm close to the bar,

which is close to the door. And then towards the end of the at this point, Donald's leaving and everyone's just like, oh, make way, like like Trump is leaving, and so I like step out. Um. I stepped out of the way and he walks by me, and in that moment, I was like he's a foot away from me, Like I mean, I had that thing where it's just like I mean, I mean that you couldn't do it. I could. I could do something. I could like I could like far or like scream or something, and like

I could be that insane person. But then you know, I've never I've never told anybody this before. You know what I did. What I said again drunk, I go great show tonight. You didn't didn't look at me and just waved and said yeah, thank you and then walked out. And then Bill A. Riley was right behind him, and then I walked right. Uh, I walked out, stopped and was like, Hi, grat SML when a dream come true,

and thank you Darren. I are so excited. I'm fully I'm filled with shame that I complimented Donald Trump on his SML episode, and that is a true fact and I will never live that down. I don't think, as far as the media is concerned, you've done the worst thing by any means. Think he even listened to you. He didn't, didn't didn't acknowledge my existence. He wouldn't remember you. I don't think. But no, I'm just saying it's the

it's the thing. It's I think it's the thing like if you could go back in time and like do the kill Hitler. Not saying I would have killed him, killed Trump, but it's just like out but it's like it's like, oh, in this moment, in this moment in time when I was, when I was that close to him,

what I chose to do was to compliment. Insane. I mean, I do think that there's a thing where it's like what do you actually do when you're with you know, and like I don't think at that point people knew how bad he was, but people didn't think he was going to win anything. He was still in the primary, that was still early in the primaries, and you know, he was still one of sick ten. Yeah, And it's

like it's like seeing the Baba Duke. Before you see the movie, you're just drawing, and then you watch the movie and then you're like, oh no, but the country just had not most of the country hadn't seen, hadn't seen the movie, had been to Toronto, but actually just happened. Just happened. James Franco did very well. James very well, and the Lady Ganga documentary did very well. Did you know what won the Audience Award? This is actually kind

of interested. It's called Three Billboards, Big Missouri to Francis McDorman movie. It looks great, written by Martin McDonough and apparently it's real and Crtin McDonagh wrote, what else in Bruge? Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, it's fun stuff. Yes, play right. I got him mixed up with who did the pillow man? Martin mcdonna. It was, says producer Joe not quite as fun. Then it just shows young you know, who's so fun? She's so fun. She's studying a new thing to Netflix.

Wait do you know? Wait, did you know that? You guys want to watch Moonstruck. I've never seen it? Was very don't really such a good movie? Yes, I remember such a good movie. Yes, it makes you so happy. Share is really good in it. Share it might be the best one in it. And there's a lot of really good people. It's written by a playwright who wrote it, oh, John Patrick Shanley. Yes, yes, and he also wrote Doubt. Yes, but it's really good. I really recommend you watch Moonstruck

and then listen to that little cultural tip. Will report back. It's really funny. There's an Italian grandpa who has five dogs. Oh my god, that's so hilarious. There's so many good parts. Snap out of it. The cow. You've seen it, You've seen it, you love it. Share Share is the best one of the of the you know, pantheon of divas. She's really good at everything everything, She's very she's funny and good at Twitter. Oh yes, you guys, so she's really bad at putting emojis in the middle of words,

and as she doesn't necessarily know what, we love her. Okay, it's time to move on. To I don't think so, honey. Now, if you listen to the show, you know this segment. If you are just listening to the show for the first time, you picked a really good one. It's very good. Yeah, And that's our that's our segment where we take one minute to rail against culture. Um. We are so mad about these things. It's time to take one minute to say, how just how mad? Um? Now, Matt, you said you

have something. I do have something. Okay, Okay, I don't know where it will go, but I know what it is. So then I'll put one minute on the clock and Matt, I can't wait to see what you have. Because Matt Rodgers, I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Woman on the train who locked eyes with me after two other women kissed and rolled her eyes,

let me tell you something. I don't know what it wasn't about me to give you an impression that I was gonna share a home of public mobile with you, honey. But I don't think so, honey, because guess what, I'm a most sexual wow man. And I will look at you dead back in your eyes, which you've were old, and I'll tell you with my gays that you can't come for the gays, and I can't believe you, and

I think I shamed her adequately. But you're in New York, honey, you're just gonna pick someone and roll your goddamn eyes like E expecting that any old person is going to be doing with you. These were two beautiful lesbian tunny and they loved each other. They were a beautiful biracial couple and I love that. And guess what, maybe it was that that made the woman a little irritated, But I don't know. All I know is, honey, you need

to get together. That's one minute. Oh my god, that's setting and looked at me like can you believe this ship? And I was like, yeah, get out of here. That's that's that's great, that's really good. Um I don't think so, honey, hold on, hold on to do it, okay, okay, um yeah here we go, all right, here we go. I don't think so many time starts now. I don't think so many unique black runner jeans that are supposed to stretch to fit they tore at the fucking thigh, pelvis,

groin area within two weeks. Bitch, I don't think so honey, these little I can say this, these little Chinese and children making my pants, and and I don't think so honey myself for buying into the and and and you know, supporting that horrible oppressive structure and institution myself. I don't think so honey. Though these pants we're supposed to last me for many, many many days of work, of auditions, all per This is really I don't think so honey for them, for them not being there for me when

I needed them most. For them, I invested time, had them tailored to my leg high I have short legs, bitch, and I needed to wait an extra day to give them to unique lo to have the adjustments made seconds. And I don't think so honey of these pants. I don't think so honey. For not being dependable. That's my minute. So many layers. There's a lot going on there, and I can my My gift is to be able to connect all those dots gracefully, thank you. And they provoke conversations,

and we hope people will converse with us. And we hope Joe's I don't think so honey, it's all we hope it really lives up to what she's seen here. Not do it at all, Joe, this is gonna be one of the best, and I think we should Joe, are you ready? Yeah? This is Joe Firestones. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Why can't you eat egg salad and tuna saladub? Yeah? Why can't you? They sell it? Why are you gonna go home to eat it? It's too stinky. I don't

know what it smells like. Tuna smells like. We all know what that smells like. I think it's that there's a social stigma. It's two of the main three cold salads. The only other cold salad that we have left his chicken salad, and that's not a salad I want to eat. There's also ham salad, but I don't think that's sold in stores under your I just feel like it's weird that you get dirty looks. If you ate that in a room of people, people get mad at you. And

that's another up they have that at the Delhi. If they didn't sell it, people obviously are buying it. And where are they eating it? Where are they eating it? If not in work, where are they eating? Are they eating it at home. It's too embarrassing. I don't know why I can't. I try to eat egg salad. Was on a subway and I that kicked out doors are closing, stand clear and that's one minute. Wo. I think that's philth You're disgusting, Joe. Why would chicken? I'm obsessed with

chicken salad? Okay, what about like a tuna egg salad. I haven't come across it. And I was like every deys Like, my nephew is like he's three, and he's really cute. He has a really weird way of speaking, and he's really specific about his words because he's like learning that. And my my, my sister in love was like, Sammy, what do you want to eat for breakfast? And he goes egg. She does, how many eggs you do? You want? One egg or two eggs? And he goes one egg?

And you know what you knew? What do you wanted? What do you want? Communicated it very well. Indeed, I think this trifecta of the salads, the cold salads, chicken wins out. Chicken win's out. You should try chicken salads. Okay, I've tried it. They have really good chicken salad a trader Joe's called wine Country chicken salad, and it's with raisins um delicious delicious mayonnaisees and blends of spices and seasonings, different kinds of mannaise. No, I mean like they seasoned

the mayonnaise in such a way that's very good. I never heard it. Mayonaise is absolutely Joe mayonnaise mayonnaise. Do you like? Do you like cold salads? Um? I love tuna fish, and I will frequently enjoy tuna salad if there's not just a tuna fish. Okay, you eat plain out of the can. I take it out of the can, I put it in a nice bowl. I mixing some mayo and some mustard, and I'll eat it with a fork. You make your own. That's tuna salada. But that's truna

salad by itself. But the salad you need a little bit of greens in it, honey. That makes it in a salad by definition, a salads creams. But is tragical. I think the title of this episode is tragical. Tragical or what was the song called Bitches and Bitches at the Beach. At the beach, I think it should be tragical, tragical bit of the beach. We really didn't get past the chorus. No, yeah, it's true. Right, I feel like I've been really shot down multiple times. Say something and

we'll encourage you. I think the title of this episode should be a bitch at the beach. You know what? That's fair? Say something else? I did I talk about this last episode. My bowels are still I started taking probiotics today. I haven't done the doing it bad bows the worst they've ever been. I've very explosed to diarrhea since I moved to New York. I'm so sorry. It's something I'm used to, and um, I think that it's just kind of becomes part of your routine. But you know,

I've been talking about this. Usually when I have my diarrhea, afterwards, you feel so much better. Maybe not necessarily this these past two weeks, I've had to go at least twice consecutively within ten minutes, and then you're exhausted, and you're exhausted and you feel like there's a demon inside your bowels. Yeah you got it, Maybe you got I don't know. Well, you know what. I took a nap tonight after I shout out of my globular world, and I think that

this is this is this is my journey. That is like Matt just learned all his favorite words and put them all in one center. I just I'm learning. That was nice. I believe that I will me Joe. We will miss Joe so much. I believe I had so much fun doing this. Thank you so much, Joe. We love you so fun. Joe. Where can people find you? You're not on social media very much. You can't find guys. I'm Matt Rogers and our episode was with Joe Firestone.

Thank you, Forever Dog. Thank you listeners, Bye, thanks thanks a listeners. I bet I bet they don't even listen to see what happens. And great education. Third grade reading level. I couldn't even read the Hard Harry Potters, the One, the hard Ones, the ones want Everything passed that second half before Lord Crux. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Celio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Bom. For more podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Productions dot com. Four